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Hillary: "Business Does Not Create Jobs", Washington Does

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Submitted by Martin Armstrong via Armstrong Economics blog,

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We have a very serious problem with Hillary. I was asked years ago to review Hillary’s Commodity Trading to explain what went on. Effectively, they did trades and simply put winners in her account and the losers in her lawyer’s. This way she gets money that is laundered through the markets – something that would get her 25 years today.

People forget, but Hillary was really President – not Bill. Just 4 days after taking office, Hillary was given the authority to start a task force for healthcare reform. The problem was, her vision was unbelievable. The costs upon business were oppressive so much so that not even the Democrats could support her. When asked how was a small business mom and pop going to pay for healthcare she said if they could not afford it they should not be in business. From that moment on, my respect for her collapsed. She revealed herself as a real Marxist.

Now, that she can taste the power of Washington, and I dare say she will not be a yes person as Obama and Bush seem to be, therein lies the real danger. Giving her the power of dictator, which is the power of executive orders, I think I have to leave the USA just to be safe.

Hillary has stated when she ran the White House before regarding her idea of healthcare, “We can’t afford to have that money go to the private sector. The money has to go to the federal government because the federal government will spend that money better than the private sector will spend it.” When has that ever happened?

Hillary believes in government at the expense of the people. I do not say this lightly, because here she goes again. She just appeared at a Boston rally for Democrat gubernatorial candidate Martha Coakley on Friday. She was off the hook and amazingly told the crowd gathered at the Park Plaza Hotel not to listen to anybody who says that “businesses create jobs.”

“Don’t let anybody tell you it’s corporations and businesses create jobs,” Clinton said.

“You know that old theory, ‘trickle-down economics,’” she continued. “That has been tried, that has failed. It has failed rather spectacularly.”

“You know, one of the things my husband says when people say ‘Well, what did you bring to Washington,’ he said, ‘Well, I brought arithmetic,’” Hillary said.

I wrote an OpEd for the Wall Street Journal on Clinton’s Balanced Budget. It was smoke and mirrors. Long-term interest rates were sharply higher than short-term. Clinton shifted the national debt to save interest expenditures. He also inherited a up-cycle in the economy that always produces more taxes.

Yet she sees no problem with the math of perpetually borrowing. Perhaps she would get to the point of being unable to sell debt and just confiscate all wealth since government knows better. Their job on keeping Ebola out is just fantastic so far? Just a few people popping up here and there. Maybe everyone from New York should get a free weekend to visit Washington.

 

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Sun, 10/26/2014 - 13:20 | 5379539 gatorboat
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LOL there's ur next president peeps ...if Obolie allows elections.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 22:17 | 5377927 NoDebt
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Maybe she'll fall down and bump her head again and go all cross-eyed this time.

I'd just hate to be the next person calling at 3am, given her Benghazi performance.

She has health issues ( a heart condition nobody will report on, despite the obvious evidence), a female Napoleon complex, she's a political whore and even her own people hate her.  Other than that, an obvious shoe-in for our next president.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 22:17 | 5377938 knukles
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Needs a WIlliam Holden Drinking Helmet

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 22:48 | 5377966 philipat
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And what is really depressing is that similar or worse will be able to be said of all other cndidates? Either way, it makes no difference, red corner, blue corner is all just an execrcise in "Divide and conquer" played by the elites to keep the masses distracted.

PS. And besides, we've already had ethnic minorities, gays and transexuals in the big white house, shouldn't we be looking for a hermaphrodite dwarf?

 

PPS. And if she gets elected, where will Huma's bedroom be located? Presumably H will have the only key?

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 01:55 | 5378468 OldPhart
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"What difference, at this point, what difference does it matter?"

Hitlery '16

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 02:26 | 5378499 rccalhoun
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who is going to beat her?  (ps  she does believe she (govt) is the solution)

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 02:26 | 5378501 OldPhart
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I'd fukin' LOVE to beat the living shit out of her.

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 07:02 | 5378675 ParkAveFlasher
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Chris Christie LMAO.  President is looking like the job that nobody wants. 

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 15:09 | 5379760 cheech_wizard
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There may be some truth to that, neither party wants to be in charge when the collapse occurs.

 

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 10:06 | 5379005 Semi-employed W...
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Hermaphrodite dwarf?  Only one I can think of is Robert Reich.

And if Hillary gets elected will they create a special closet in the White House for her strap on collection?

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 23:07 | 5378080 TheRideNeverEnds
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Well the statement is true in the sense that businesses do not create the jobs just for the sake of it.  Demand for goods and services creates a need for people who provide and manufacture said goods and services.  Someone steps in and facilitates the aforementioned at a risk to their capital with the idea of making a profit by employing workers and buying machines etc to facilitate the process beyond the scale of what one person or a family can accomplish on their own, while making more money then what the whole thing costs to keep going and thus profit from the success.  

 

The whole system is fucked though and we read articles every day explaining how and why.

 

You need to understand Washington is run by lawyers these days, think of her husband and I quote.

 

""It depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is."

-B. Clinton.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 23:10 | 5378112 Arius
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yes, it is true.

 

very good summary.

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 05:45 | 5378621 SilverIsKing
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Does video of her making this statement exist?

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 05:11 | 5378591 Dakota Kid
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 "Business Does Not Create Jobs", Washington Does

TheRideNeverEnds "Well the statement is true in the sense that businesses do not create the jobs just for the sake of it."

What kind of a BS comment is that? Government only takes from those that produce.

Nice job conflating two totally separate ideas.

That's cognitive dissonance at it's finest.

However, I agree with the rest of your comment.

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 07:41 | 5378723 Jerome Lester H...
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The statement is not true in any sense and your comment validates that. Who cares whether businesses create jobs for the sake of it or not? They still create jobs. Job creation is simply the byproduct of a business taking the risk of going into business or expanding a business. The same cannot at all be said about government.

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 09:56 | 5378979 NoPension
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I'm late to this party. But WTF.

When I was a youngster ( I'm 52), every corner had a small, family run grocer. Each one had a little specialty. One guy was a butcher, fresh meat and fish. One made sandwiches. One had the cheapest and largest supply of penny candy.
Then there where bars. Some beer and wine. Some had a hard liquor Licencse. Different clientele.
Every neighborhood had a hardware store.
Then there where the restaurants and carry outs.
Gas stations, with a service garage.
In what constituted the "business" section, there was a pharmacy, jeweler, dry goods, shore store ( remember those?), 5 and dime, theater, etc.

Each and every ONE of these establishments was run by, and supported a family. A lot of cases, the owner lived above the store. And they employed people from the neighborhood.

Now. Home Depot. Dollar Store. WaWa or Royal Farm. WalMart. TGIFriday. Etc........

Each supported by Wall Street. Employing people at minimum wage, or at least you can't support a family. With the profits flowing to a limited number of Billionaires or bankers, or other " monied class".

And I guess we got here by looking for efficientcey, cheaper price. Well, we've got it.

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 10:09 | 5379013 Semi-employed W...
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And that whole demonic tranformation would have never been possible without the Fed and its habit of funneling cheap money to the investment bankers. 

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 13:35 | 5379576 g speed
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Welcome to the world of behaviour modification through the miracle of taxing---owners pay taxes so profit is not possibile however large corps pay no taxes so profit is assured-- small business was killed by the tax monster called gov't. 

ZH ers take this with you---  Big business needs big gov't which needs big labor which needs big law which needs big media-- individuals need not apply.

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 20:56 | 5380691 barroter
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Yes, DEMAND for a service or product is the impetus, not being wealthy nor rich.  No one can make cyanide popsicles and them hope to get rich from it when there is little demand (there may be a few!).  I don't care how connected or rich you are. Demand comes first.

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 11:07 | 5379160 geno-econ
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A bit of reverse truth in all political idiology, For instance , in healthcare ,specifically Medicare, the government administrative cost is 3% compared to private sector insurance overhead of 20% with huge bonuses for top executives.   As far as large corporations creating jobs, their allegencies are global and not National anymore.  Similarly, paying corporate US taxes is not a priority and in fact a game of avoidance on a global scale.  Still Hillary is off the wall in her statements that governments create jobs---they create subsidies for vested interests 

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 17:57 | 5380168 lincis
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90% of disagreement on this is considered irrelevant

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 18:35 | 5380247 Dugald
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Well if you voted for Obama then why not this ditsy shiela......makes as much sense.

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 20:57 | 5380695 Rational Advisor
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Apparently 4 liberals agree with her. What a shame. This Country is quickly losing the values which made it so great. She is most certainly warped.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 22:10 | 5377892 suteibu
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Suppose you were an idiot and suppose you thought Hillary would be a good president. But I repeat myself.  (Apologies to Mark Twain)

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 22:11 | 5377906 philipat
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Hilary, Pelosi, Fineswein, Boxer, Wassermen-Shultz......Where do the Dems find all these c***s??

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 22:14 | 5377925 Rememberweimar
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Israel...

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 07:29 | 5378709 Bangalore Equit...
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Listen Zero's.

'Madam Secretary', hit TeeVee show in America made by Tribe.
'Good Wife', hit TeeVee show in America made by Tribe.

On and On. Grooming your feeble American minds to worship your "MASTERS" decisions as they are forced upon you.

"I WILL OBEY MY MASTERS".
"I WILL OBEY MY MASTERS".
"I WILL OBEY MY MASTERS".

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 07:49 | 5378736 Jerome Lester H...
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I got rid of cable tv over a year ago. My sister did the same about 6 months ago. More and more people are doing this as the cost goes up and the quality of programming goes down. I only have internet and a Roku now.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 23:49 | 5378198 kahunabear
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This isn't about being republican or democrat. It is about the essence of free market capitalism, which I think ZH promotes. Hillary is obviously a total socialist/communist. It shows how far we've come and how screwed we are that this is not even a blip on the mainstream media radar.

Our current perverted Fed driven system that socializes moral hazard is just another flavor of the same. 

Being against this isn't Republican! It is pro free market capitalism. From what I have seen Republicans like to support the cronies and grow the federal government as much as anybody.

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 08:27 | 5378787 Everybodys All ...
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Well said. I think the media has all but made any opposition party irrelevant. It has become impossible to run against this wave of communists just like it has in many other countries. If you control the media and you control the narrative and Democrats absolutely control the media. Simply look at how the media treats the Tea Party, Sarah Palin, the list goes on and on. Whether you agree with them or not politically the treatment by the ms media and the comics on the left  is meant to degrade them at any and all cost.

It's absolutely sickening to see what is happening to this once great country.

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 12:29 | 5379394 venturen
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She is a Cronyist! 

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 21:00 | 5380704 barroter
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Republican cronyism...dead on right.  Our wealthy sure did love all that QE, ZIRP and bailouts.  Tell me again how they "built it themselves." That's a good laugh.  When you use gov't to promote your own business then call it capitalism...there's another word that bettter fits. Fascism.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 23:53 | 5378238 CASTBOUND
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my friend's step-sister makes $67 every hour on the computer . She has been fired from work for 7 months but last month her pay check was $14130 just working on the computer for a few hours. blog here... www.Yelptrade.com

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 23:57 | 5378261 TeamDepends
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So you are shtoinking your friend's step-sister? We will outlast you.

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 01:10 | 5378408 Flagit
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We all need to learn to use a bot to run on our computers in their downtime, and make these spammed websites crap out.

 

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 07:57 | 5378748 Jerome Lester H...
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Zero Hedge needs to make the math captcha harder.

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 11:13 | 5379171 e_goldstein
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At $67.00/hr she must not be very pretty.

Tell me, does that price include the paper bag I'll need to put over her head?

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 15:15 | 5379769 cheech_wizard
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Since I am relatively new to ZeroHedge, is there not a policy that at least bans blatant spamming?

I'd hate to have to invoke my non-paid for necro-geek skills and send a few lesser daemons to this asshat's website...

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 02:43 | 5381229 Gavrikon
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Her actual take last month was $14130.25.

When asked, which of her negro blow job custimers paid her a quarter, she replied, "Why all of them!"

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 00:50 | 5378371 JLee2027
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From her fainting episodes, it's been reported Hillary has heart problems, and would not be able physically to withstand the rigor of being President. For the sake of the people of the United States, we can only hope this is true. 

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 20:02 | 5380488 hawk nation
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I hope she has better taste in women then her husband!!

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 07:16 | 5378688 Jerome Lester H...
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@order66...Get the fuck out of here you loser. You are on the wrong website.

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 08:24 | 5378792 doctor10
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Somebody, someday will wake up and realize all of the American Empire's flaming failings can largely be laid at the feet of the women whom we arrogantly presumed could represent American interests in a Muslim MidEast.Maddy Albright, Condoleeza Rice, and Hillary Clinton are all "accomplished women" by domestic standards. Yet it is the very definition of arrogance that history will accord us, to presume that an Empire can send out anything but its strongest men to represent its interests to the world.

In this regard it is worth noting, that after almost a decade of failure to negotiate with Iran, within 60days of John Kerry's appt as Secretary of State, America achieved an agreement almost overnight.

 

Her as president is nothing but  the final Amercian Absurdity on the world stage.

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 10:26 | 5379040 holgerdanske
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How Bill has been able to stomach her, I can't figure out.

She is evil.

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 11:24 | 5379200 Government need...
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Hillary, showing her Marxist colors.  It takes a village, doncha know.  A village tax officer to take your money, a village 'gimmiedat' officer to redistribute your money, and a village NKVD officer to make sure everyone complies.

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 13:02 | 5379498 stant
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Hilary" I didn't throw that ashtray"

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 13:26 | 5379556 drendebe10
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"There ain't nuthin uglier than an old white woman".  Fred Sanford. Sanford and Son.

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 14:11 | 5379651 drendebe10
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Q:  How many democraps does it take to change a light bulb?

A:  That's not funny and ur a racist and gimme all ur money cuz i know how to spend it better than u.

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 14:27 | 5379682 boogerbently
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I get it, Order.

....as opposed to socialist/facist.

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 14:55 | 5379721 holmes
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That ignorant, ugly, corrupt cow want to be President?

In her defense, those lines work great with the Free Shit Nation crowd.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 22:02 | 5377849 rcintc
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We're doomed!

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 22:03 | 5377862 kaiserhoff
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There you go again, Tylers.

Making fun of 150 year old women, just because they are senile.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 22:12 | 5377913 NYPoke
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"senile with cankles."

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 22:19 | 5377945 NidStyles
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That's a crime in whore houses.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 22:18 | 5377943 knukles
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Oh Kaiser, there you go again.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 22:42 | 5378027 TeamDepends
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Reptiles don't age, they shed.

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 13:29 | 5379564 drendebe10
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Hey, i think the picture really is incompetent  corrupt illegal alien muslim liar in chief's halloween mask.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 22:09 | 5377852 CunnyFunt
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Queen of hearts.

Power-hungry cow.

Monarch wannabe.

Fuck off, shrivel up and die.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 22:13 | 5377916 Freddie
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LOL!  She even looks a bit like an older Angela Lansbury...much older.

That film sort of sucked and Laurance Harvey carried the film. Sinatra was not a good actor.  He was okay in from here to eternity.   Ernest Borgnine as the sadistic bully was very good in that film. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lfk-JTdQ_0I

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 23:43 | 5378211 infinity8
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She's starting to look like Soros' sister. Chameleon eyes and all.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 22:17 | 5377942 dexter_morgan
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already has the shriveled up part taken care of

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 23:19 | 5378098 DoChenRollingBearing
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Yes, she may lead the world in that department...

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 22:05 | 5377856 Yen Cross
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    Hilbola. BARF~

   Where's Boner?  We need some orange for that Purple<midterm> Ballet Box.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 22:05 | 5377872 kaiserhoff
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I think her father was a used car salesman.

That would explain a lot.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 22:16 | 5377936 Yen Cross
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I think you're probably correct. Unfortunately the "victor" gets to write/re-write history.

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugh_E._Rodham

 

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 22:18 | 5377948 knukles
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Huge Rod Man?
Now that's some foreshadowing, my man!

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 22:20 | 5377962 Yen Cross
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You're definitely on the roll tonight knuks.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 22:29 | 5377982 Tom Green Swedish
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No he sold drapes.  What an accomplishment.  Hillary should be proud.

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 12:33 | 5379413 Tom Green Swedish
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I do not think 3 of the apes understood the meaning of my sentence.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 22:03 | 5377857 alexcojones
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One of the first Fem-bots,

Early Langley prototype model

 

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 12:34 | 5379419 Tom Green Swedish
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She is definitely not of the PKD variety.  PKD warned us about women in his own way.  Hate it or not women. You will doom our society just by not playing the game.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 22:04 | 5377861 starman
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Fucking hore! 

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 07:41 | 5378718 Bangalore Equit...
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Listen Starman.

Let me make myself real clear here.

"Chelsea's hubby, Mezvinsky{jewish} has "decided to spearhead his own private hedge fund with two other guys," and ideally will launch the company in the next few months.

To help get the job done, the source adds that Mezvinksy will team up with "two guys from Goldman Sachs," the investment banking mammoth where he worked from 2002 to 2008 (before joining 3G)."

Gotta do something with all of that insider Presidential information..

Obama - 1st Jewish President.
Hillary - 2nd Jewish President.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 22:05 | 5377867 AdvancingTime
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Expect dismal job creation to continue, today many forces are coming together that tend to make this the new normal. Over the years as we have become able to produce more with less labor we have seen the fruits of our work improve the lives of many people. Today we enjoy being able to have far more goods and luxury's then at any time in history, but soon we will find ourselves competing with robots for jobs and see many of our options for earning a living swept away.

Many people forget that small business is the backbone of America, this is the real job creator and the place where people "with skin in the game" do real work. This is where many skills are learned and honed and useful training takes place. It does not help that the President and most of Washington lack solid backgrounds in both business and the economy. Few of the people who make the laws and set the rules have ever been responsible for meeting a payroll. More on this subject in the article below.

http://brucewilds.blogspot.com/2013/12/the-reason-dismal-job-creation-wi...

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 22:07 | 5377880 Seize Mars
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She's a lying, bullshitting lawyer.
Communist murderous fucking animal.
The Clintons have quite a body count, as well does their favorite ideology.
Zionism Delenda Est.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 22:13 | 5377911 TheMeatTrapper
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Yep - which is why she's going to be your next President. 

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 15:29 | 5379817 cheech_wizard
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In this hand I hold the evidence detailing all the drug connections from the drug dealers to Roger Clinton to the Clinton Presidency... Jerry Brown (you know, the CA governor) once wanted to do an interview with the person most knowledgeable on the above subject in order to get something on the Clintons. The afore-mentioned person said no, as they like breathing. Long true story, which I will tell sometime. As soon as I make the necessary arrangements.

 

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 22:51 | 5378061 Escrava Isaura
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Seize Mars

Be careful there, cowboy.

 

Most founding fathers were lawyers and judges.

 

http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/constitution_founding_fathers_overview.html

 

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 23:21 | 5378147 PrecipiceWatching
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Utter misdirection.

 

Lawyers and judges were of a completely different ilk 250 years ago.

 

Further, Harvard for example was a merit-oriented, religiously grounded, respected Institution of higher learning instead of the cesspool of Communist, racist, amoral ideology that it is today.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 23:40 | 5378193 Escrava Isaura
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PrecipiceWatching

Utter misdirection. Lawyers were merit-oriented, religiously grounded, respected…

 

Really?

 

The Revolutionary War was an important event. But it was in the first place, to a significant extent, a civil war, as most revolutionary wars are.

And it was a war of independence, as opposed to a revolution against the social structure. The social structure didn't really change significantly.

There were problems right after the war was done. For example, Shay's Rebellion and the Whiskey Rebellion and so on were challenging the social structure, and there were efforts on the part of radical farmers to take seriously the meaning of the words in the revolutionary pamphlets, but that was pretty well quieted down.

If you go back to the record of the Constitutional Convention, which took place in 1787, almost immediately after the end of the war, you see that they are already moving in another direction.

James Madison -- who was the main framer, and one of the founding fathers who was most libertarian -- makes it very clear that the new constitutional system must be designed so as to insure that the government will, in his words "protect the minority of the opulent against the majority" and bar the way to anything like agrarian reform.

The determination was made that America could not allow functioning democracy, since people would use their political power to attack the wealth of the minority of the opulent. Therefore, Madison argues, the country should be placed in the hands of the wealthier set of men, as he put it. – Noam Chomsky

 

http://www.chomsky.info/interviews/19970303.htm

 

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 00:26 | 5378276 CunnyFunt
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At least JM was wise to the dictatorship of the majority.

Chomsky, that cunning linguist, lmao.

Things went down hill following ratification of the 19th Amendment.

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 09:46 | 5378962 Seize Mars
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...and did I say anything about America's founders?

I said the woman and her psychotic husband have a body count that would make Empreror Caligula blush.

Anyways that's a pretty skillful misdirection, making the conversation about something it isn't.

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 11:06 | 5379157 Escrava Isaura
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Seize Mars

No. It’s not misdirection!

 

1) Hillary is an insider ‘Power Hungry’ just like many of Hedgers would like to be. Hillary comes from a ‘Neoliberal’ background very similar to the “Founding Lawyers” after the enlightenment, that emphasizing individualism rather than traditions.

 

2) “Empreror Caligula blush”? What’s that supposed to mean?

 

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 11:34 | 5379223 Grimaldus
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Incorrect. Hillary Clinton is a criminal. Progressives are criminals. The founding fathers were not progressives.

Yes, it is misdirection. But don't go away mad, just go away.

Grimaldus

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 13:24 | 5379325 Escrava Isaura
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Grimaldus

So then, your statement makes Theodore Roosevelt, a Republican President, a criminal, as well.

 

The problem is that you’re using the wrong word to describe the facts.

 

Progressivisms goals were to eliminate corruption in government by exposing and undercutting political machines and their bosses, and establishing further means of direct democracy. 

 

And American Neoliberal and Bolshevism are basically manifestation of the same thing, Imperialism.

 

Most of us here lean towards the current sets of values and its misinformation’s, than the progressive goals.

 

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 14:06 | 5379638 InTheLandOfTheBlind
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You speak for no one here

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 17:11 | 5380065 Grimaldus
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My statement was that Hillary Clinton is a criminal. Guilty of crimes against humanity. Check your history and you will see Hillary Clinton came to the aid of AL Qaeda in Benghazi as Gaddafi was moving against them. obama was not inclined to become involved but Hillary twisted his arm. Hillary's illegal war against the sovereign nation of Libya established Wahhabi murderers as rulers there and spawned ISIS. The blood on her hands is measured by the supertanker full. Libya is destroyed and fallen into chaos.

Hillary Clinton let Americans at Benghazi die to try to cover her failed policy. The famous three am phone call and what did she do? She murdered.

Now lets talk about the 6 billion dollars that went missing under Hillary Clinton's direction of the State Department. Not only is she guilty of war crime, but she is guilty of many other heinous crimes. This activity can only be rewarded with arrest and prosecution.

You can call them what you want. I call them progressives. Sometimes Marxprogs, sometimes neo-stalinists. Whatever it all translates into criminal and as far away from constitutional conservative as it is possible to be.

Grimaldus

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 19:36 | 5380414 Seize Mars
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Teddy Roosevelt was another warmonger from a New York banking clan. He ran third party to split the ticket among Republicans so that he could get Wilson elected, and the Fed is fuckin history.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 22:09 | 5377883 yogibear
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Just like North Korea creates jobs Hillary.

This is how distorted these political hacks become when they haven't worked an honest day in their lives.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 22:09 | 5377887 Village-idiot
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It's time to re-read Atlas Shrugged.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 22:29 | 5377977 Ms. Erable
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Why? You're getting to live it in real time.

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 05:44 | 5378620 GetZeeGold
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Yeah.....lucky us.

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 08:41 | 5378820 Cloud9.5
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Atlas has already shrugged and walked off the stage.  We are living in what comes next.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 22:12 | 5377895 the not so migh...
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i ned a barf bag, acutally, i need the bag Bill use to put over her head to tolerate sex with her

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 06:01 | 5378636 TuesdayBen
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Ever heard of Web Hubbell?

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 22:12 | 5377897 Notsobadwlad
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The private sector does create jobs, but maybe not in the US. US corporations have created hundreds of millions of jobs in China.

In the past, small business created most of the jobs. However, it now appears that big business and the government are doing their best to kill all small business.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 22:13 | 5377917 dexter_morgan
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bingo

big business only thrives with it's friend big government to help them bar entry and eliminate competition.

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 00:16 | 5378078 Escrava Isaura
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America is a “Corporate State”, brainwashed by a “Corporate Media”, ran by ‘Corporate Political Parties” that were indoctrinated by ‘Institutionalized Education’. All built 227 years ago at the Federal Convention of 1787.

 

America is functioning exactly like it is supposed to function.

 

And Hillary is doing her part.

 

Move on. Nothing new to see here!

 

 

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 23:56 | 5378258 sun tzu
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Somehow 84% of employment still comes form the private sector and at least they do produce some useful things like food, shelter, and clothing. The 14% who work for the government, what do they produce?

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 00:18 | 5378307 dexter_morgan
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chaos

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 00:45 | 5378356 PrecipiceWatching
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Obstruction.

 

Thievery.

 

Abject wasting of time.

 

Aggravation.

 

Smug condescension.

 

Space occupyng pension thieves.

 

The Shrugging of Atlas.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 22:12 | 5377899 Dadburnitpa
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Is she that ignorant and callow or just brain damaged?  Why would this witch be out in public saying this?  Someone must have told her at some point that a slim majority of voters still do actually work for a living.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 23:51 | 5378237 HK21E
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She's just playing to the statist base because Liewatha is nipping at her cankles. Heap Stupid Squaw is working to out Prog the PIAPS.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 22:11 | 5377901 Bunga Bunga
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Washington must be a really big city, even reaching to the Pacific Ocean.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 22:11 | 5377904 dexter_morgan
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Well, the big problem is that a majority of people in this country probably agree with her now on much of what she said. Isn't the mantra of the day that capitalism, markets and democracy are the problems, not the solutions? And, in the current corrupt and broken state of those ideals, they are probably right.

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 08:32 | 5378806 Everybodys All ...
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Bailing out every entity is not capitalism dex.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 22:13 | 5377907 Robot Traders Mom
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Considering we basically live in a fascist state where the government and the corporate world has essentially merged, I wouldn't look too much into this statement. 

 

It is just a soap opera. All scripted, all the time...

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 22:21 | 5377960 knukles
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That it is, but calling Kabuki Theater what it is keeps you sane and not being dragged into acceptance.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 23:41 | 5378195 himaroid
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I just tole my old lady that she was laying ther puttin on a KABUKI THEATRE!

Is she correct with such LOUD "language"?

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 22:23 | 5377923 Tom Green Swedish
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Hillary is a  gigantic pile of shit. Forced Obama into picking her for her Secretary of State which she fouled up more than any other predecessor to an exponential degree.  Before the government gets one more fucking dime trying repaying some of it back.  Subprime borrowing bullshit AAA rated garbage entity with teleprompter dumbshits creating jackshit except theft.  Fuck them and their NAFTA for Wal Mart and crap Benghazi aftermath antics.  She is a disease.  A fucking plague her husband finds disgusting. A party flip flopper with sub human intellligence and no sense of guilt.  Vince Foster is dead.

 

“Don’t let anybody tell you it’s corporations and businesses create jobs,” 

Hillary where does the government get all that money it is spending from?  I suppose corporations owe everything to the government and only exist to serve this disease that plagues the planet.

Hillary - "Don't let anybody tell you government serves a purpose."  You are a puppet stooge who will receive not one dime in campaign money.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 22:34 | 5378000 Buster Cherry
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Spot on with the party flip flopper.....

You could ever believe she used to be a Goldwater Girl....

 

TRAITOR!

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 23:34 | 5378176 Oldwood
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They like to study their enemies up close.

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 08:24 | 5378791 Uncle Remus
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This is what did the trick.

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 10:11 | 5379017 Tom Green Swedish
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Yall know LBJ doesn't like being number 2 don't you?  Sure Oswald was the lone gunman but he said he was a patsy next thing you know some Jew Chicago strip club owner caps him in LBJ's home state.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJIb73SPzkE

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 22:35 | 5378007 homiegot
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I'll tell that to the owner of the company I work for, someone that has created a business that has done a quarter billion dollars in billings over the last 25 years. 

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 23:05 | 5378091 Yen Cross
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  $250 mm in 25 years. My hat is off to the owner of your small business.

 That's fantastic! That is what America is/was built on.

  Small Business ideas and ingenuity...

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 10:54 | 5379122 Tom Green Swedish
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The general consensus of democrats is "you didn't build that" somebody else did / we built it.

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 15:36 | 5379831 cheech_wizard
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Hillary on Qaddafi:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fgcd1ghag5Y

Tells you all you need to know.

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 17:36 | 5380124 Grimaldus
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The truth about Qaddafi:

http://youtu.be/O1iHgz-f_10

Qaddafi's gold backed dinar would have messed up central banker plans to steal moar money.

Grimaldus

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 22:16 | 5377926 Ariadne
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The black market wins

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 22:18 | 5377949 the grateful un...
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assume she's correct, (and she is) how did we get in this spot? did we allow the federal reserve and the treasury to crash the stock market, then create TARP and QE to bail out the big institutions who make money through financial engineering, not creating jobs. i can't disagree with any of it but it shouldn't be that way. that's like saying business doesn't create jobs, gangsters create jobs, running numbers, selling booze, prostitution. so is this what Hillary is saying the gangsters create jobs, fuck business????.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 22:19 | 5377951 robnume
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She said what?

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 22:21 | 5377963 booboo
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Vince Foster hit it. Then he promptly shot himself, twice...in the back of the head

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 23:02 | 5378083 DoChenRollingBearing
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+ 1

LOLOLOL....

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 06:43 | 5378667 goldsaver
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No, Vince hit Huma and then Hillary suicided him with two on the back of the skull

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 22:24 | 5377969 Karaio
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I do not understand how the bill "fluid exchange" Clinton married this unfortunate and, worse, a daughter did so ugly! 

Calling someone ugly is not a crime right? 

That girl is uglier than beating his mother! 

Credo! 

hehe.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 23:54 | 5378244 HK21E
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Webb Hubbell would not be pleased with your disparagement his daughter the First Canklette.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 22:25 | 5377975 Hulk
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The road to Orwellianism is now complete. That the federal government is more efficient than the private sector is the biggest lie of all time...

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 22:31 | 5377989 insanelysane
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The government produces nothing.  The key measurement for an economy is GDP - GROSS DOMESTIC PRODUCT.  The government has 0 GDP.

Note: As wacky and liberal as Massachusetts is, the candidate Hillary is trying to boost is dropping.  People do understand that the government is funded by private citizens engaging in economic activity.

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 11:15 | 5379153 Tom Green Swedish
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GDP is the worst measurement of an economy because it includes government spending.

 

Components of GDP by expenditure[edit] GDP (Y) is the sum of consumption (C), investment (I), government spending (G) and net exports (X – M). Here is a description of each GDP component:

 

And FYI our make up of GDP by industry is similar to Greece's and France's.  Two countries in the toilet. We are effectively a nation of others screwing each other over by being middleman rejects.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_sector_composition

A service is the non-material equivalent of a good. Service provision is defined as an economic activity that does not result in ownership, and this is what differentiates it from providing physical goods. It is claimed to be a process that creates benefits by facilitating either a change in customers, a change in their physical possessions, or a change in their intangible assets. Service output is a component of the GDP of a nation. The service sector includes (but is not limited to) farm and factory related activities.

You want a good indicator of the ecoomy look no further than to wage increases.  Something men have not seen since 1962.  Why? Because all the jos were lost because of a crap manufacturing base and the race and feminist revolution.

 

My favorite quote from Steve Jobs.  It was from the guy who made some file sharing thing (similar to these Icloud and other file spy internet hard drive things).  "Dropbox is a feature not a product." The same is true for 90 percent of these crap tech start ups.

 

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 12:07 | 5379290 Hulk
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My favorite part of the GDP calculation is including rents for people that own their home outright. Yes, if your home is bought and paid for, they calculate what your rent should be and add that 

to the GDP calculation.,We are being led by the greatest bunch of lying, thieving, corrupt bastards the world has ever seen...

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 22:27 | 5377980 jellen
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WTF pompous ass Bitch

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 22:29 | 5377985 Buster Cherry
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I always thought the antichrist would be a man....

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 09:22 | 5378911 css1971
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He was.

The antichrist was Nero.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 22:31 | 5377992 homiegot
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She's doubling down on "You didn't create that" meme. Fuck her. Fuck her husband. Fuck their ugly daughter. Fuck all commie liberals.

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 11:19 | 5379183 Tom Green Swedish
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Ultimately when you view it from the highest dimension there is no time and no space there is no future and no past.  It is all occuring in one fascinating moment of expression but time is an illusion that has purpose.

You can self impose hypnosis but it will wreak havoc on your health. Humans can also change the future - even though it is just all one big illusion.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 22:30 | 5377993 dag
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This b***h is absolutely dangerous.

Obama says, "APRÈS MOI LE DÉLUGE."   Hillary is LE DÉLUGE

People who would vote for her deserve the same thing as the people who voted for Hitler.

 

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 01:24 | 5378429 Flagit
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Um, Hitler actually DID something for his country.

Probably more than anyone to date.

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 08:18 | 5378778 Uncle Remus
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Our German scientists are better than their German scientists.

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 11:21 | 5379185 Tom Green Swedish
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Our German scientists are German scientists.

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 19:32 | 5380402 Uncle Remus
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Operation Paperclip

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 22:32 | 5377998 Irving Phelps
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Spoken by an ugly cunt who's sucked on the tit of the middle class to enable her worthless fucking life! She's as low as Monica!

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 22:36 | 5378009 Buster Cherry
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Lower.

 

Like Monica's tampon lower....

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 07:58 | 5378747 Snoopy the Economist
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Monica never killed anyone.

Monica never lied or cheated on Hillary's scale.

 

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 22:33 | 5378001 Atomizer
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Under Bill Clintons Presidential watch, he created Blow Jobs. Hillary may be searching for motor boat voting constituent service jobs. Every woman needs a carpet munching friend to do all the heavy work. 

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 23:06 | 5378089 DoChenRollingBearing
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I never would have thought that blow jobs were gainful employment.  Thanks for bringing me up to speed, Atomizer!

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 23:38 | 5378184 Atomizer
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No problem. We are finally leaving Myrtle Beach tomorrow and heading back to Charleston. Surgery is on Monday. A bit of mixed emotions. Keeping positive. 

If all goes well, I'll be happy. Contact you on Tuesday. Send you my neck scar photo. Winks. 

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 23:50 | 5378208 DoChenRollingBearing
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Que tenga buena suerte, amigo!

Que Dios te bendiga...

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 11:21 | 5379194 Tom Green Swedish
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Yes, and his chimp Al Gore created the internet for porn.

Do NOT follow this link or you will be banned from the site!