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NYC Ebola Patient's Condition Worsens As Fiancee Returns Home

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New York City health officials have released Morgan Dixon, the 30-year-old fiancée of recently diagnosed Ebola patient Dr. Craig Spencer, to her West 147th Street Manhattan apartment where, as WSJ reports, she will remain under mandatory quarantine. This 'good' news comes as New York's Department of Health issues a statement on the deteriorating condition of Dr. Spencer who "is entering the next phase of the illness, which is anticipated gastrointestinal symptoms." This was expected apparently, as NYC's health commissioner Mary Basset noted, "we've seen with this disease that it continues to get worse before it gets better." A large CDC team is actively involved.

 

 

The good news... (via WSJ)

New York City health officials were preparing Saturday to release the fiancée of a recently diagnosed Ebola patient to her Manhattan apartment where she will remain under quarantine.

 

Morgan Dixon, 30 years old, was in close contact with Dr. Craig Spencer since he returned to his New York City home on Oct. 17 from treating Ebola patients in Guinea, officials said, and had been with her fiancé at Bellevue Hospital Center since he was diagnosed with the virus on Thursday.

 

Ms. Dixon was free to leave the hospital Saturday, according to Dr. Bassett. She had no symptoms and had been admitted out of caution, the health commissioner said.

 

Dr. Bassett said she was confident the city had tracked down everyone that Dr. Spencer had come into contact with.

The bad news...Dr. Spencer's condition deteriorates...

Ebola patient entering next phase of illness, which is anticipated gastrointestinal symptoms, according to joint statement from Health and Hospitals Corp., Department of Health and Mental Hygiene.

 

Patient is awake and communicating

 

Bellevue clinical team is in constant communication with CDC and other leading medical centers such as Emory University Hospital and Nebraska Medical Center

 

Large CDC team has been advising Bellevue staff

 

In addition to required supportive therapy, Bellevue initiated antiviral therapy within hours of admission; also administered plasma therapy yesterday; these therapies have been used at Emory and Nebraska

"We've seen with this disease that it continues to get worse before it gets better," Dr. Bassett said.

*NY EBOLA PATIENT RECEIVED CHIMERIX'S BRINCIDOFOVIR (the same drug that did not work for Thomas Duncan in Dallas)

As NY Times reports,

The statement was careful not to convey a sense of pessimism, and patients undergoing treatment can worsen before they recover. In a brief telephone interview from his room at Bellevue, Dr. Spencer spoke in a neutral tone that seemed stripped of illusions: “I’m still undergoing treatment,” he said.

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Joint Statement of Health and Hospitals Corporation and Department of Health and Mental Hygiene

The patient at Bellevue Hospital Center is entering the next phase of his illness, as anticipated with the appearance of gastrointestinal symptoms.

 

The patient is awake and communicating. The Bellevue clinical team in charge of care for the patient is in constant communication with CDC and with other leading medical centers such as Emory University Hospital and the Nebraska Medical Center.  A large CDC team has been actively involved in advising the Bellevue staff and we are very appreciative of the additional guidance. 

 

In addition to the required supportive therapy, we initiated antiviral therapy within hours of admission. We also administered plasma therapy yesterday. These therapies have been used at Emory and Nebraska.

 

The patient's fiancée will return to her home this evening under quarantine. 

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The full timeline of Dr. Spencer's time since arrival, in NYC...

On 10/14, the patient departed Guinea on a flight to Brussels. Patient reported no symptoms.

On 10/17, the patient boarded a flight to the U.S. on Brussels Airlines Flight SN0501. Patient reported no symptoms.

On 10/17, the patient arrived at JFK. The patient was screened at JFK and had no symptoms upon arrival.

On 10/21 at 7 AM, the patient reported fatigue and exhaustion. No fever, vomiting, diarrhea. Fatigue is a symptom of Ebola, but it is very unlikely that people he came into close contact with on 10/21 are at risk. Out of an abundance of caution, we are  actively monitoring the health of these close contacts.

On 10/21, around 3:00 PM, the patient visited The Meatball Shop. The Meatball Shop is located at 64 Greenwich Avenue. Spent 40 minutes at The Meatball Shop.

On 10/21, around 4:30 PM, the patient visited the High Line. Walked on High Line and stopped at the Blue Bottle Coffee stand (10th Ave & W 16th St)

On 10/21, around 5:30 PM, the patient got off the High Line at 34th Street and took the 1 train to the 145th Street station.

On 10/22, around 1:00 PM, the patient went running along Riverside Drive and Westside Highway

On 10/22, around 2:00 PM, the patient went to pick up Community Supported Agriculture (CSA) farm share at 143rd St and Amsterdam Avenue (Corbin Hill Farm) Patient picked up box and brought back to apartment

On 10/22, around 5:30 PM, the patient left for The Gutter bowling alley in Williamsburg, Brooklyn with two friends. For his arrival at Gutter, the patient took the A train at 145th Street and transferred at 14th Street and took the L train to Bedford Avenue.

On 10/22, around 8:30 PM, the patient left The Gutter. For his return trip, the patient used Uber as his means of transportation.

On 10/23, around 10:15AM, the patient first reported a fever. At this point, the patient called Medecins Sans Frontieres and the New York City Health Department. He was immediately taken to Bellevue by FDNY EMS. The patient was tested for Ebola at the Health Department’s Public Health Lab. Test results are presumptive positive for Ebola. A confirmatory test will be conducted by the CDC; results will be available within the  next 24 hours.

 

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Sat, 10/25/2014 - 18:43 | 5377290 Yen Cross
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     I have a hunch this guy was feeling like shit for much longer than we're being told!

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 19:05 | 5377344 kaiserhoff
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Out of an "abundance of caution"  we will continue to fly in Ebola carriers until Hell Freezes Over.

  -  the Illegal Alien, Closeted Queer, Fucknut Decider.  

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 19:09 | 5377355 X.inf.capt
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i have a feeling there's more than just 1 infected in NYC...

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 19:11 | 5377364 Brian
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Serious question:

Why don't they just test her for Ebola?

Why don't they just test everyone who wants to leave an infected country and make them wait the 12 hours before getting on a plane?  

Do Ebloa tests not actually give a reliable result?  

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 19:12 | 5377367 Infinite QE
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Probably can milk the govt. $$$$$$$ as compared to just $ for a test.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 19:17 | 5377374 X.inf.capt
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that and less "fear factor'...

got to destract everyone from ...

possibly a ONE WORLD CURRENCY....possibly...

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 19:41 | 5377463 TeamDepends
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Don't worry New Yorkers, she is wearing the new Ebola Be Gone scarf from Ralph Lauren.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 19:55 | 5377491 NoDebt
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"Morgan Dixon, 30 years old, was in close contact with Dr. Craig Spencer since he returned to his New York City home on Oct. 17"

Close contact?  OK, I guess that's what we're calling it these days.  

Guy comes back from Ebolaland a couple days before, goes over to see his girlfriend/fiancee and they have "close contact".  Yeah, the kind that involves getting her ankles pinned to the headboard.

Think how pissed she'll be when she finds out he's also got Hep C and crabs.

Hope it was worth it, honey.  For what it's worth I think you and your boyfriend/fiancee are a couple of real dumb bunnies.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 20:02 | 5377506 Bangin7GramRocks
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Dicks In alright. Surprise! You gots tha ebolas!

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 20:12 | 5377519 ParkAveFlasher
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Imagine her surprise?  Wait until her other boyfriend finds out!

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 20:21 | 5377545 kaiserhoff
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I smell a reality series,

  or maybe it's just Snookie.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 20:44 | 5377607 knukles
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Does Snookie smell?
Like what?
Don't tell me dead fish gone to rot.

 

PS  The next phase.  "Gastrointestinal problems"  This is when the "bricks" of virus multiplication begin bursting and the virus rapidly swarms the entire body, one symptom of which is the antibodies begin ravaging the host.  Blood no longer coagulates and the lining of the intestine slough... as in peel off.  The internal organs literally begin liquefying and bleeding then commences from all orifices.  The man is likely by now for all intents and purposes, dead.  Needles inserted into veins simply fallout as skin has no cohesion.  Pain is unimaginable.  The consciousness seems to disappear as the infected begins to simply stare with little response ability .... it is literally a retreat into hell.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 21:18 | 5377714 COSMOS
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I hope this POS ends up like Duncan, he knew he had exposure to Ebola patients, but instead of self quaratine he decides to be a little bitch like that Snyderman of NBC and go out and take NYC down singlehandedly.  Little fucking POS.  If his chick has any brains and is not in it for his ER doc paycheck she will dump his ass.  If he gets well and she blows him and then licks his asshole then we know she is a bigger bitch than he is.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 22:01 | 5377843 general ambivalent
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See the Times article "Ebola Patient's Fiancee Shares His Altruism." It's much worse than no brains: rich, liberal, altruistic world is my autistic oyster do-gooder my bliss brains.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 23:56 | 5378253 zerozulu
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"we've seen with this disease that it continues to get worse before it gets better."

You can name it "civil Liberties" too.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 22:19 | 5377893 Wait What
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you guys always beat me to it. from NoDebt down to Cosmos I was thinking the same thing.

all I can add is, you want to see 'homegrown terrrist'? he's sitting at bellevue hospital bleeding from every orifice. banging his gf, riding the subway during rush hour, slapping on some rented bowling shoes and sticking his fingers in bowling balls the public shares.

anyone seen the movie 12 Monkeys? one of my favorites.

"a tour of several cities that matches the locations and sequence of the viral outbreaks"

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 09:13 | 5378885 Refuse-Resist
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Is it just me, or does Nina Pham look remarkably robust and healthy after her bout with this deadly disease?

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 09:13 | 5378886 Refuse-Resist
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Is it live?  Or is it memorex?

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 20:02 | 5377503 max2205
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Will Barry institute a don't ask, don't tell policy ......after the midterms? 

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 19:42 | 5377467 NidStyles
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If Hitler was so bad, and he wanted a one world government. What makes the current crop of one worlders not understand that it's the idea of a mad man?

 

Most likely they believe their own hubris....

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 04:12 | 5378561 Rememberweimar
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Hitler simply did not want a one world Jewish Government. Same as Putin. Thanks to China and a few other countries, the world will be spared.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 19:16 | 5377377 negative rates
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I guess you really have to be in deep shit to catch this bug.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 19:17 | 5377390 Bangalore Equit...
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Listen Zero's.

Morgan Dixon? Or Dixter Morgan? In your face American CIA ops.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 19:19 | 5377396 90's Child
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Listen monkey.

Dexter*

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 19:19 | 5377401 X.inf.capt
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LISTEN...

ROBOTROLL...

you really need to learn how to be a real troll..

:)

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 20:46 | 5377621 knukles
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Please go back to doing whatever it was 9 weeks ago before you arrived here.
Honest.   You'll be much happier.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 19:17 | 5377380 kaiserhoff
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.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 19:15 | 5377382 Pheonyte
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The test results wouldn't show anything until the immune system starts producing antibodies, so they have to wait until the person becomes symptomatic.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 19:18 | 5377398 kaiserhoff
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So, as with AIDS, it's only an anti-body test?

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 19:22 | 5377406 Pheonyte
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I think so. Then again, the other guy may be right. It might be that the virus has to replicate to sufficient levels in the blood before it can be detected.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 19:32 | 5377439 negative rates
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I can detect a 98.7 fever, this guy walked in w/ a 103, without practice he wouldn't have even done that.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 20:11 | 5377525 disabledvet
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The technical term is called "shedding." Learn it, live it, avoid it....

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 22:55 | 5378072 worbsid
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100.3  big difference

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 20:02 | 5377502 Miffed Microbio...
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PCR can detect just a few copies per ml so it can be used very early in an infection before detectable antibodies are produced. Considering the large viral loads seen in Ebola patients, detection should be possible before symptoms appear. Antibody tests usually don't have the specificity or the sensitivity as PCR but are certainly cheaper. Plus, immune response can vary among individuals.

The problem is there are few labs in the USA that can safely handle infectious blood from Ebola patients to do these tests.

Miffed;-)

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 20:26 | 5377564 kaiserhoff
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Thanks Miffed.  Always crisp and accurate.

  Do you and yours have any idea why this thing didn't spread among Duncan's household?  Does this thing just hate health care workers or what?

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 20:49 | 5377610 A L I E N
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In my opinion, its too early to "look back" to see why or even whether they got it or not.  I think its possible they have it, just not symptomatic yet. Or possibly pick it up from a household object in the near future. I hope thats not the case..

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 20:47 | 5377619 Miffed Microbio...
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Been wondering the same. Perhaps with casual contact it really is a crap shoot and they were just lucky. Healthcare is usually up close and personal. I routinely get samples taken from patients slathered in blood or containers of body fluids leaking from containers. Healthcare is not for those of faint of heart. Even the innocuously looking "pristine container" can have micro droplets of fluids on the outside unseen to the naked eye. I've never served my husband his coffee with peritoneal fluid dripping down the sides.

Miffed;-)

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 20:47 | 5377625 knukles
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My kind of woman.
Honey, would you like one or two peritoneals with that?

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 00:49 | 5378366 himaroid
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You gotta gimme my due vigorish from the proceeds.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 20:58 | 5377648 Yen Cross
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 Miffed the human brain compensates for over half of what the human eye captures. If humans really saw what their brains were recording, it would look like one of those old pictionary books from the '20s and '30s.

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persistence_of_vision

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 00:22 | 5378315 joe90
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Miffed have you seen this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5DOLQ6MN9g (ignore Alex, but what Dr Boyle says).  Is there any credence to what he says?

 

Edit: start at the 7 min mark

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 02:16 | 5378488 Miffed Microbio...
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I would have to question the ability to combine a "cold" virus like a rhinovirus or a coronavirus with Ebola to make an effective agent. This would unlikely to happen naturally. Yes they are RNA viruses but very different. If done in a lab, components of Ebola could be inserted but that would not guarantee expression and the disease may be very different from wild type Ebola. The other problem is the vaccine. Koch's postulates must be proven with human subjects. Just because it was shown to work in primates, there is a big jump to have an efficacious vaccine to work in humans.

There are hundreds of viruses that are human cold viruses and many serotypes of these viruses and they are rarely lethal. If you try to use their ease of transmission coupled with the lethality of Ebola, this would take a lot of work. You simply can't slap them together and have a viable product ( thank goodness). If the elites are injecting themselves with this in the hopes they would be spared, this confidence would be a bit premature. Wild type Ebola has a high mutation rate. Who's to say what the engineered Ebola would do when it had so many hosts to recombine? It could mutate to a form lethal to itself or change in a way the vaccine is ineffective. Too many variables here to even make an educated guess. Does make for a good Robin Cook novel though.

Miffed ;-)

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 20:42 | 5377604 disabledvet
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I just finished reading up on the new facility at NIH which just opened this year to deal with just such an attack.

And I cannot see how anyone in their right mind cannot see Ebola entering into the USA as anything other than an attack. This is not to say I see this as intentional.  Look forward to hearing from you once the actual outbreak we have here is admitted to.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 23:27 | 5378156 RafterManFMJ
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I did not think it possible, but my respect for Paul Craig Roberts just increased.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 23:35 | 5378174 HK21E
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Miffed - you are one of the main reasons I lurk here. I find your insights fascinating.

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 00:07 | 5378288 joe90
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Me too  ....  someone with more than a few clues.  Thankfully the Govt employed trolls seem to be less evident these days with the ~~~~~~~ and kentucky hillbilly homilies.

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 00:45 | 5378361 Miffed Microbio...
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Tx HK and Joe,

Really, I'm just a regular person doing the day to day microbiology in a clinical lab. Nothing too special. It's just so disheartening to see the so called leadership of the CDC handling this in such a ludicrous fashion when someone like me can clearly see the lunacy of their approach. When enough people in the field walk off the job realizing they are being asked to work in such dangerous conditions, healthcare will be in a meltdown. My question what could be worse after Obamacare has returned an unimaginable answer.

All I can say is I know no one in authority will ever see to my interests personally or professionally. I hope all on the front lines have planned to save themselves when the time comes now that it is apparent dumb and dumber are running the show.

Miffed

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 04:18 | 5378564 Rememberweimar
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Truth ;)

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 15:45 | 5379852 LibertarianMenace
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Well, I hear the healthcare workers treating this idjut doc have taken your advice. Lots calling in sick, or outright refusing to treat him w/o the required training. Plus, the patient is also apparently making himself a major pain in the ass.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 20:03 | 5377505 Urban Redneck
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But again, why wait?

Wouldn't the patient stand a better chance of survival if an immune response were induced earlier?

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 20:36 | 5377590 Miffed Microbio...
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Immune response to Ebola has shown to be activated early in infection. However, it is not neutralizing.

The Ebola virus is normally transmitted by direct contact with infected body fluids or mucus membrane contact. Once inside the body, the virus attacks macrophages and monocytes, relying upon host antibodies and complement component 1 for efficient infection.The white blood cells respond by releasing large amounts of proinflammatory cytokines that increase permeability of the vascular endothelium, which facilitates easier entry into the virus's secondary targets, endothelial cells.These cytokines also recruit more macrophages to the area, maximizing the number of cells that Ebola can use to spread throughout the body. In the meantime, hepatocytes are being destroyed by the virus, ensuring that these cell signals cannot be cleared from the bloodstream.

So the body does respond, but the response essentially helps the virus. This is the dilemma and why anyone with any semblance of synaptic function would never give this virus the opportunity to come here.

Miffed;-)

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 20:45 | 5377618 Urban Redneck
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Thanks Miffed,

That's very helpful. I'm going to feed that to my freakish frankenstein friends and see how it fits their theory...

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 00:13 | 5378298 joe90
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Bit like the 1918 influenza, killed the young and fit with strong immune systems by overstimulating the immune response ?

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 01:41 | 5378449 Miffed Microbio...
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Yes, that has been postulated for the reason of the highly lethal numbers in those age groups. Also, look at the conditions when that epidemic was ravaging. Young men in close quarters in unsanitary conditions. It was easy to transmit this virus from one to another. Troop movements enhanced this. Historically this generally means virulence tends to be high. Lower virulence is often seen when the hosts are not in close proximity. When you have a cold you naturally interact more with others because you are not deathly ill and spread it. Ebola burns quickly in hospitals with people concentrated but stops when they flee into the jungle.

Miffed;-)

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 13:48 | 5379598 forexskin
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nice clear explanation of the cascade during infection. what do you know of the portion of the immune response when the infection is beaten back during recovery?

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 19:17 | 5377391 kaiserhoff
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I'm sure Miffed knows.  Maybe she will way in.

I think there has to be a relatively high virus load in the blood for the test to work, so, as with screening, it's unreliable for early detection.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 19:43 | 5377435 FilthyHabits
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Technically speaking, you can not test for such a foreign object with such ease. In this case a virus, your immune system mounts an initial response that you test against. This takes time.

That does not mean this virus is not in its infective stage.

This version of ebola has a clearly different infective stage especially considering its latency period; as it is longer than the original epidemic several years ago. The original would burn (the person would die) itself out before it found a new host.

Yes I'm suggesting its a different bug, sadly more virulent.

Arm Yourselves.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 20:25 | 5377556 Miffed Microbio...
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I am not sure what the analytical range is for Ebola virus. For HCV we can detect as low as 15 copies/ml in blood. Anything below this is considered detectable but not quantifiable. I have seen high level of antibody in hep C patients and still detect large viral loads ( up to 2.5X 10(7)) so just because the body is producing antibody doesn't mean the virus will not be detected. There are a small percentage of hep C patients with high titers of antibody that clear the virus to levels undetected. This could be theoretically possible for some people with Ebola who,through genetic fortune, have the ability to produce effective neutralizing antibody. Though I would imagine this would be highly unusual.

All treatments for Ebola have been so far, supportive and passive immunity. This means, at some point, if there are too many Ebola patients there will be no means to care for them adequately because it requires a lot of resources to do so.

Miffed

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 20:51 | 5377632 disabledvet
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The question I have is the ridiculous claim of being "Ebola free" let alone "Ebola immune.". Immunity connotes the virus stays in your bloodstream without becoming "active.". I ask "what is the triggering mechanism?" What switches this thing from off to on seems pretty important to me.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 22:09 | 5377868 FilthyHabits
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Mate no one has even been able to collect a new molecular weight for this strain of Ebola using a verification process that would allow for a PCR type test to begin with. This would be the only way to "measure" the virus in your blood.

That is why they are using clinical indicators such as symptoms and geographic location; not actual tests.

They can't figure it out for them selves at this point because the CIA didn't send them the memo.

Full Retard.

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 00:45 | 5378358 himaroid
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If one poured whiskey down the throat of a miffed microbe, could it become manically vengeful?

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 02:22 | 5378495 Miffed Microbio...
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No, it would morph into mellow microbe. My preferred type. ;-)

Miffed;-)

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 07:46 | 5378729 MalteseFalcon
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Why can't they make potentially infected Ebola passengers sit for 12 hours in a plane on the tarmac?  Everyone else has to.

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 08:05 | 5381515 BandGap
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My understanding is that the test for ebola isn't effective until the person is almost to the infectious stage. I do know the disease has to be in a second or third stage to be seen.

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 08:42 | 5378821 junction
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The solution to this Ebola case is obvious.  Apply Mayor DeBlasio's Vision Zero program.   Declare the doctor cured, now we have zero Ebola patients and then concentrate on the real business of New York, giving out zoning variances to connected real estate developers to build more 90 story buildings in congested midtown Manhattan.

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 10:19 | 5379034 Freddie
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Can all ebola patients report to the trading room floor at Goldman Sachs then the NY Federal Reserve then CNBC with a side trip to JP Morgan.

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 15:52 | 5379870 nuke ISIS now
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White House Presses States To End Ebola Quarantine: Report

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/26/ebola-quarantine_n_6049936.html

""If you put everyone in one basket, even people who are clearly no threat, then we have the problem of the disincentive of people that we need," Fauci told ABC News. "Let’s not forget the best way to stop this epidemic and protect America is to stop it in Africa, and you can really help stopping it in Africa if we have our people, our heroes, the health care workers, go there and help us to protect America."

Are you fucking kidding? seriously, so we are more worried about disincentiving doctors to help, than an uncontrolled spread f this shit

Something doesn't pass the "smelt" test

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 19:06 | 5377346 I MISS KUDLOW
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I went to the doc yesterday, when i went into give my name the first question was have i been to an ebola effected area in the last 21 days?  I have a hunch this is about to go expotential,,,,,

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 19:33 | 5377441 Squid Viscous
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Larry, just don't ever answer the anal sex question, it's a trap!

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 20:52 | 5377634 knukles
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Once when I was interviewing for a big position, I had to see a shrink.  (Was a bad omen as to the corporate culture... they needed to use a shrink to figure out if folks would fit ion culturally....  bad karma)  Anyhow, one of the questions he asked me was "When did you stop masturbating?"  So I lit a cigarette and looked him straight in the eye with a nice smile and said "Oh, about 9 o'clock last night."  I didn't give a fuck about the rest of the interview.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 20:56 | 5377643 WillyGroper
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you're killin me! 

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 21:07 | 5377681 Ralph Spoilsport
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You're on a roll tonight knuks!

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 21:11 | 5377691 Yen Cross
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 Did you get a job offer Knuks?

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 21:51 | 5377812 knukles
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Nope.  My time with the shrink went "poorly" from their standpoint.  Another thing he did was to give me a 2 page test.  Like from jr high.  About 8 questions.  He verbally said not to write in the margins.  Was a lot of math.  I did a buncha figuring in the margins.  He chided me about not following instructions.  I asked him if I got the answers right.  He said it didn't matter.  It was all about the margins.  I thought it was about the answers.  Well, he wanted form, I wanted substance.  (Of course I bathe, wear a tie to work and am a civil person of good moral and ethical character.)  As the afternoon wore on it was getting past my appointed departure time to get to the Oakland airport for the red eye back to NY.  So I said I had to go to get back to work next morninng.  He asked which was more important.  Finishing the "interview" or getting back to work.  I told him getting back to work as I had a duty of loyalty to my current employer and clients, to be there to do the job to the best of my ability.  Thanked him for a nice day, grabbed my stuff and left.  Closure.
Good closure.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 22:34 | 5378003 Yen Cross
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  At least the bond market treated you better Knuks.

 Thanks for taking the time to share your wisdom. ;-)

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 00:00 | 5378272 RaceToTheBottom
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Good story.  I bet they decided when you walked in the door.  The rest of the interview was just gathering data to build their data banks.

Good way to gain control and leave on a high note.

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 00:43 | 5378353 himaroid
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We likes them easy ones. Granny said

the margins is wheres its at.

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 00:48 | 5378359 joe90
Sat, 10/25/2014 - 19:07 | 5377351 Winston Churchill
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Agreed.

This is going to get interesting in around a week, as 5/6 days as average incubation time.

We will see what new yorkers are really made of.

A new york panic, quicker than a ny minute.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 19:10 | 5377359 booboo
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Nurse Cratchet!! Are those the tofu meatballs shooting out of my ass"

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 22:15 | 5377929 general ambivalent
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There's no ebola in the meatballs. There's no blood in the chocolate milk. There's no vaccines in the cheerios. Well, there might be, but it's good for you.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 21:23 | 5377728 j0nx
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I don't understand why liberals just don't pass a law making eebola illegal. They seem to think that will work for everything else that bothers them. Fucking jagoffs.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 23:55 | 5378252 CASTBOUND
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my friend's step-sister makes $67 every hour on the computer . She has been fired from work for 7 months but last month her pay check was $14130 just working on the computer for a few hours. blog here... www.Yelptrade.com

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 18:48 | 5377296 Truther
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Give him IV Vitamin C.... Very high doses needed. Otherwise, we're dealing with a bunch of fuckups

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 19:09 | 5377356 exi1ed0ne
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Citation needed

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 19:37 | 5377452 SunRise
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"Truther", ibid 20141025

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 20:25 | 5377561 Urban Redneck
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"very high doses"

I think the citation you are looking (and this a citation for a hypothesis, not evidence of efficacy) is R Cathcart, Vitamin C, tritrating to bowel tolerance, anascorbemia, and acute induced scurvy.

That hypothesized "very high dose" is up to 500,000mg (1/2 KG) oral equivalent dose per day.

By way of comparison, I am looking at a bottle Swanson Vitamin C with Rosehips, 6" tall 3.25" diameter 250 capsules, 1,000mg each. That would be TWO BOTTLES PER DAY.

I'm sure the liposomal lunatics will be along momentarily to pitch their snake oil.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 18:50 | 5377297 Skip
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Israel has SECURE BORDERS and you don't see Israeli MDs going to 3rd world shitholes and bringing back to Israel diseases that can wipe a nation out.
Israel’s Netanyahu: “We Don’t Have To Open Our Doors To Be Swamped”

Too bad the Jewish people see Whites as the enemy.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 18:54 | 5377312 yochananmichael
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Israeli mds were the best in haiti

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 19:12 | 5377365 Infinite QE
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In what, organ harvesting?

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 19:25 | 5377414 yochananmichael
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Saving earthquake victims idiot

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 04:27 | 5378569 Rememberweimar
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You mean relieving earthquake victims of their wealth...

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 11:42 | 5379245 Freddie
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How many did they save in Gaza?  You know innocent people living in a city that was bombed, rocketed, strafed? 

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 19:58 | 5377497 Bob
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Good one . . .

Cuba sets the international pace in the battle against Ebola, just as it has in Haiti, where Cuban doctors have long been the closest thing to a Haitian national health service. Without the Cubans, much of the Haitian poor would have no effective access to health care at all. When the earthquake hit in 2010, 350 Cubans were already in the country, soon to be joined by nearly a thousand more. Since 1998, Cuba has trained about one thousand Haitian doctors – the biggest source of physicians in the country.

http://blackagendareport.com/node/14470

 

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 20:34 | 5377584 booboo
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Hmm, Cuban doctor you say, like Che?

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 22:18 | 5377941 general ambivalent
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Wrong. Jews can't get ebola. (They have no blood.)

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 23:46 | 5378223 WillyGroper
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where does it go after they drink it?

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 04:29 | 5378570 Rememberweimar
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Who cares, the Jews are gods...

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 23:44 | 5378213 pipes
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Well, it didn't work out too well for them in World War Z...

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 18:51 | 5377300 Sid James
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Ebola Gay
You should have stayed at home the other day!
Ah-ha words can't describe
The lack of clipboards and how we nearly died...

Ebola Gay
Is mother proud of little boy today?
Ah-ha the virus you gave                            
The vomit's never going to wash away               

Apologies to OMD..

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 18:59 | 5377321 NoVa
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+1 for spin on OMD great song

 

 

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 19:25 | 5377416 Yen Cross
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  Can you do that with "The Smiths" or "Depeche Mode" lyrics?

 Nice work by the way.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 18:52 | 5377302 homiegot
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He's a trendy. Death to trendies.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 19:02 | 5377336 Robot Traders Mom
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Is that a trendier way of calling him a 'hipster'? 

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 18:54 | 5377311 yochananmichael
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Quarantine her for 21 friggin days!

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 19:27 | 5377419 Winston Churchill
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Quarantine= 40 (days) in Italian.

Didn't work too well for my Venetian ancestors,  the general idea was correct,just the wrong

disease vector.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 22:19 | 5377953 general ambivalent
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No. I'm pretty sure 'quarantine' means 'hug forty infected nurses.'

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 11:44 | 5379252 Freddie
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Wasn't Venice where the Black Death entered Europe?  It supposedly came from Asia on trading ships.

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 14:06 | 5379634 Winston Churchill
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Yes.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 18:59 | 5377322 Moe Howard
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Obola. The gift that just keeps on giving. So he banged her and she didn't get it? I'm not buying this story. Maybe she's really a beard.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 20:54 | 5377639 knukles
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Time,  my dear boy.  Needs time for the replication process to being and the body to release anti-bodies which BTW are part of the disease, for the body literally, alongside the virus, begins eating itself.

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 04:30 | 5378572 Rememberweimar
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My money says she got an injection of Ebola in all her orifices

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 05:14 | 5378601 effendi
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In all her orifices? Like her nostrils and ears? EWW.

Is her belly button an inny or an outey? That might also count as an orifice.

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 04:30 | 5378573 Rememberweimar
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My money says she got an injection of Ebola in all her orifices

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 19:00 | 5377323 TheBoyPlunger
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Those airport screenings sure are effective. Oh wait...

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 18:59 | 5377324 Robot Traders Mom
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Even if this is all, theoretically, being over-hyped, I still worry about two things: natural mutations of the virus and the evil people who always seem to be behind human suffering throughout the world...

www.TopTheNews.com

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 23:58 | 5378260 MsCreant
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Interesting site. Why is Twitter okay and not Facebook? For the record I don't do either, this place is the closest thing to "social media" I do.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 19:16 | 5377331 Sid James
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The CDC estimate that the under-reporting rate for Ebola infection could be as much as 2.5 times.

That means that the 10,000 infections reported by WHO are actually more like 25,000 infections, and the 5,000 deaths reported are 12,500 deaths.

The projections don't look too good either. The CDC are predicting up to 1.5 MILLION infections by the end of 2014 when under-reporting is accounted for.

Read it here for yourself:

http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/su6303a1.htm

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 00:32 | 5381114 Freddie
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Why would you accept anything the CDC says as being factual or credible.  The US Post Office could give you better data because they hire the same people. 

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 19:04 | 5377340 Miss Expectations
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Here is the outbound timeline:

On 9/18 patient photographed in Brussels

On_____ patient arrives in Guinea

On 10/14 patient departs Guinea

If I assume the patient arrived in Guinea on 9/20, that means he was there for only 24 days.  What kind of program is Medecins Sans Frontieres running? By the time the new arrival (Doctor) gets placed with a hospital/clinic, learns the protocols, suits up and cares for a few patients, it's time to leave.  Is a 3 week stint in western Africa normal?  Hardly seems worth the airfare.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 19:08 | 5377349 kaiserhoff
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Plenty of time for Selfies to adorn his trophy room.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 20:57 | 5377650 knukles
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So cynical. 
But so true, in a way.
I know guys who offer their medical services through institutions like M-sans and they all go in for a week or month... then back to work.

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 00:07 | 5378286 MsCreant
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Guys, I love you and dammit, you may be right.

But can you imagine the working conditions there? Exhaustion, understaffed, it does not stop, breaks are not that meaningful (it's not like you can leave the environment and drop back in). And you are scared you are going to catch it, yourself. I would think those shifts would be humane. I would not want to be trapped there months. And it seems they do come and go, that is the culture, you do have life and family at home.

I am sure that some of them are "Private Benjamins" (my cousin did Peace Corps. and all the Private Benjamins pissed her off, she wanted to do real work and called them out on it). But I also think there are folks who feel the calling and need be mindful of selfcare or they would never go back. I could see a guy like this going for the selfie, then deciding it is not for him. Or he evolves into it after the shock. There needs to be room for all these possibilities. I know I am not going over there. I might if I was single. 

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 00:58 | 5378387 FredFlintstone
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Like all of these weekend missionaries that head to the carribbean to mix a few loads of concrete for a school for orphans. If they would all just take the cost of their trip and donate it to the school, everyone would come out ahead.

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 00:52 | 5378375 joe90
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Good catch

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 19:05 | 5377341 robnume
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News from the WSJ and the NYT? Taken seriously? By ZH? Sorry, but I don't trust msm, Tyler.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 19:06 | 5377343 Squid Viscous
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west 147th? is that where doctors have to live now? JFC...what a hellhole NYC has become

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 19:09 | 5377358 CunnyFunt
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Right next to Adam Clayton Powell High School ... vectors, bitchez!

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 19:26 | 5377418 Yen Cross
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 Hey Cunny, It's nice to see you back posting. I hope life's treating you well.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 19:34 | 5377448 CunnyFunt
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No complaints here, buddy. Locked and loaded, chilling at the compound and staying well clear of densely populated areas.

Hope you and yours are well.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 20:34 | 5377586 MasterOfTheMult...
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Most of them actually live in Fort Lee, NJ. 147th is still a deluxe spot for physicians, unless they are married to an investment banker.

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 00:57 | 5378382 stormsailor
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the question of the night for miss rosanna rosanna danna is from richard fader of fort lee nj.  dear rosanna rosanna danna

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 19:06 | 5377347 SpanishGoop
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"Honey, i am home. Got a present for you."

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 19:10 | 5377361 kaiserhoff
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Selfie Note:

  If you get the bug, don't go bowling in the Bronx.  Baaad shit could happen.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 19:24 | 5377384 Squid Viscous
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No he went to Brooklyn, too many darkies and tourists in Times Square, i guess

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 20:58 | 5377651 knukles
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If the Democrats stay in power, Times Square's gonna be like London.  Not a single native found for 50 miles.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 19:15 | 5377378 chockl
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False Flag..uh oh

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 19:19 | 5377394 chockl
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he'l be fine in 6 days....or dead.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 19:42 | 5377458 Squid Viscous
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another meatball parm hero and 5 mile run should do the trick?

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 19:24 | 5377413 buzzsaw99
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send her back to the ebola apartment, yeah, that's the ticket!

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 20:04 | 5377509 kaiserhoff
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Yes, buzz.

What dime store novel are they getting these "protocols" from?

Maybe it's like those eight ball forcasters we had as kids, "yes, no, maybe, go fish..."

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 19:27 | 5377420 gwar5
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.....And how many 'large teams' does the CDC have in it's back pocket if 1000 US people get Ebola? 5 to 10.... maybe? 

 

... And when healthcare workers start staying home or running away (already happening) rather than treat these patients, because the CDC doesn't know how to protect them, then how many 'large teams' are they going to have left? 

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 20:03 | 5380503 El Hosel
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If and when 1,000 people in the us have ebola it will be different this time.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 19:30 | 5377426 Karaio
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In 10/22, around 20:30, the patient left in the gutter. For your return trip, the patient used Uber as their means of transport. 

In 10/22, around 21:30, the patient witnessed fluid exchange, said it was a wonderful blowjob! 

In 10/22, around 23:30, the patient had a fever, vomiting and unwell, entered the subway and went home. * 

hehe 

* this is a piece of fiction, any resemblance to actual facts is mere fiction. 

Kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk!

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 05:30 | 5378610 effendi
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That doctors movement timeline is scary shit. Who can remember exactly where they went, by what means and for how many minutes;and recall those details days later whilst running a fever. Either the sick doctor has amazing recall or the timeline was reconstructed by Big Brother means

So have the "authorities" got all those details from his phones GPS? Will this outbreak give them the opportunity to legalize all the surveilance they do. They will spin it that anybody in NYC may have come into contact with the doctor so they need to make it a policy that everyones movements, phones, GPS devices etc are now a health issue to fight this disease. In the interests of national health they will suspend most of the constitution (freedom of assembly, freedom of communication, freedom of movement etc).

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 20:00 | 5377488 neurorit
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This is why I'm not moving to New York next month. http://abcnews.go.com/US/video/man-at-bowling-alley-with-nyc-ebola-patie...

I know too many just like this guy in Brooklyn, and whether Ebola is really a threat or not, they're the last people I want to be around in the last place I want to be in times like these. 

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 20:32 | 5377579 Squid Viscous
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lol at Catcher in the Rye t-shirt, trying way too hard to be cool = FAIL

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 19:56 | 5377492 Fix It Again Timmy
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"Ah, er, um, cough-cough ... did you gobble your boyfriend's paste?"  Possible embarassing questions from the authorities if your boyfriend has ebola....

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 20:10 | 5377521 Bangin7GramRocks
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"Did you and patient zero engage in any of the following; Pittsburgh Platter, Rusty Trumbone, Bukkake or Blumpkin?"

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 01:02 | 5378396 FredFlintstone
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Damn, I am such a square. I have not heard of most of those. I will ask my wife if she has.

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