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Are You An Authoritarian?
Having previously provided a quick-and-dirty test to check whether you are a terrorist, we thought the following simple table would help readers test themselves (or their friends) for 'authoritarianism'.
Source: Doug Ross via The Burning Platform
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Brilliant
No just old hillbilly with more luck than most.
the unrestrained use of excessive force
Our leaders consider 'the unrestrained use of excessive force' to be one of their freedom of speech rights... perhaps the completely impartial Supreme Court should decide this at a time of their convenience...
I'm not even that ok with restrained use of excessive force.
Let's just keep hoping that when the financial system finally implodes there won't be any social unrest.
"they are taking our jobs"
huh, didn't know I was an authoritarian...
I'm just a person who thinks that each person is entitled to fuck up their own life and no one else's.
"So this is Democracy"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfl_Aqn--mA
Father Coughlin speaks ............
Unfortunately nobody listens... nice find Dork..
This should be compulsory viewing. (sarc)
Xenophobe = Authoritarian?
What?
the worst, I fear. Willing to accept boatsoada of A. if it only...
"Where are your papers to PROVE that you belong here?"
I have friends that have swallowed the "illegals" destroyed the economy line so well that they just know that all should be forced to provide ID to work, vote, etc.
However, they have seen through the government criminals' "national ID" scheme as nothing more than a "papers please" method of control over us all.
An American, not US subject.
"If the government is not the problem, look again, as you missed something."
OK, makes sense.
I'm just sceptical of universal epithets, of catch-all words used to describe everything one doesn't like.
OK, how about...
"Gravity sucks", or "Hookers suck". Does that work for you?
Illegals in particular, and immigrants in general, are sadly lacking in the concept of 'Your Property'.
If over the last 200 years, 75% of immigrants were thieves, you would have a country based on thievery.
If on the other hand, 75% of immigrants were anarchists, you would have a country with little or no government.
Which one has modern America become?
There is a evidential problem with your thesis...
AUSTRALIA...which was a Penal Colony...
Ever look into qualifications necessary to be shipped to Australia the Penal Colony? Also, my reference was to theft through government.
Oz loves its government thieves.
The "I want closed borders and tough border guards!" type of authoritarian...
I think most of us would happily settle for controlled borders. There is not need to close them.
I prefer everything - especially the land - to be privately owned.
If someone enters, they would either pay their way, be sponsored privately, or be trespassing and shot on sight.
I fear I'm sometimes a bit the elitist snob, only thinner. And in my environment lots of green zealots. Otherwise, I sneer down my nose to all those archetypes. lol
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It's OK, Ghordius, you and MDB are in good company: the experts all agree that the experts should be running things.
;)
:-) ok, ok, perhaps a small defense of technocrats is in order, here. what is an expert? someone that has above average knowledge and interest in something
take diplomats. who do you prefer to send as ambassador to country X, someone that speaks the local language and knows the local customs, or a complete noob? which one will be more effective? which one is likely to cause less damage?
we live in civilizations built on expert knowledge. you don't call a medical doctor to mend your fences, you don't call a lawyer to fix your plumbing
and of course we all know, deep in our hearts, that we should elect politicians based on their Socratic humbleness, but we still have no certification for that
The trouble is when someone's expertise leads them down the path of "I will make your choices for you", or "I don't need to think about it because I already know."
I am an Elitest Snob, except instead of experts running things, I want people to management themselves. Those that are too stupid or lazy to put food in their mouth should starve. Yes, I think I am more intelligent than 99% of the people out there, but my IQ test says I am only 4 standard deviations away from the mean, so I r not so int3lligent.
Work for the government? Any government?
once, for six months, long time ago. a wierd experience, that was
I think the key distinction is whether you think "the government can run things better than ME" or "most other people are incapable and hence I should be in power".
The former are the authoritarians, the latter are the leaders, rulers, and generally intelligent and compentent members of society.
Unfortunately they make up more than 50% of the population
I agree that almost all these categories are authoritarian, but I think immigrants DO take citizens' jobs, teachers ARE poorly paid, and we SHOULD try to protect our commons, the environment. I don't think that increasing teacher pay, being tough on immigration, or protecting the environment are authoritarian (although "protecting the environment" seems to sometimes be misused to serve as a cover for regulations that DON'T protect the environment, but do reduce freedom). Just my opinion.
Average salary of $57,000/yr for less than 9 months of work isn't too bad along with some of the best healthcare and retirement benefits of any profession.
summer break 10 weeks
spring break 1 week
thanksgiving 1 week
christmas break 2 weeks
That would be around $80,000/yr for a full 12 months of work.Compare that to the average salary in the US of $45,000/yr.
The teachers unions are always hyping the starting pay for someone fresh out of college, which would be low for most professions. The US spends more per student than every developed country in the world except for the UK. Our classroom sizes are smaller than that of most countries.
Teachers are the highest paid SEASONAL WORKERS
The nice thing about teaching is that if you are really good at anything, you can turn that into teaching. The difference between humans and other animals is that we are able to record and pass along our knowledge.
I don't know what State pays its average classroom teacher $57,000 a year. Maybe in the Northeast.
I am pretty sure that the "averages" are "fudged" by averaging-in the higher salaries of Adminstrators and the extra pay Coaches get for after-hours and weekend coaching work. I think that if you look at the salaries in your local School Board, you will find that the money is in Administration and Coaching.
As for pensions, I believe most States are now on systems that, basically credit a dollar earned with a pension credit amount. All State employees, including classroom teachers, get 1 pension credit for 1 dollar earned. EXCEPT policemen, firefighters, and State legislators, who get 3 pension credits for 1 dollar earned. And, therefore, pensions 3 times as large.
AND policemen, firefighters, and State legislators get much more money for equipment.
I hear a lot of people complaining about classroom teachers getting a sweet deal, but I don't hear people complaining about policemen and firefighters, who also have unions, getting much sweeter deals.
Lastly, I don't know what the $45,000 per year is, but I bet it includes people who work at fast-food restaurants and bargain-stores, and people who clean hotel rooms and cut grass. People who didn't work their way through college and get a Professional License.
Two groups seem to always work against the public schools: oligarchs, who send their children to private schools and who may not want a well-educated citizenry; and powerful organized-religions, which have their own church schools whose graduates are in direct competition with the graduates of public schools.
All along the northeast and west coast the average teacher pay is $60-70K
They earn more than the average worker for less than 9 months of pay. They don't have to contribute into the broke social security system, which gives them even more take home pay. If they think they can make or deserve more money, they are free to go to the private sector or find a job during the summer and work a full year like the rest of us. Stop reaching into my pockets for more money, claiming that performance will increase if they make more money. The funny thing is, the teachers unions ALL oppose merit based pay, but claim that a higher salary and better benefits will increase test scores.
Their work product screams that teachers are grossly overpaid and are perpetuating myths.
So you are going to throw facts around and see if anything sticks? That just below the belt.
FWIW, I'm 104% behind you.
All the reds just for the teachers thing? Cmon.
Minus that, he's right and yall know it.
Not for controlling the borders?
Dont mind if I dump toxins in your local river, or build a dump site next to your kids school?
Pretty hard to argue that teachers are underpaid if you calculate the present value of their promised retirement. On the other hand, most school districts could damn near double their teachers salaries if they got rid of all the useless parasites in the education department that don't contribute to educating the kids.
How do.you call somebody who has 20 of those 24 caracter types in his own caracter?
Just asking.... It's for a friend of mine...
...authoritotalitarian ?
Obozo lite.
Joseph Stalin
Obama is a friend of yours? ;-)
Mr. President.
I might call that somebody an almost-perfect match for me, since I seem to have 3 of those character types in my character. My 3 + that somebody's 20 = 23, and therefore that somebody and I just need one more person with that last 1 character type and we'll be PERFECT! :-)
Authoritarians to the left = communists, authoritarians to the right = fascists. What's an individualist libertarian in the middle to do?
Form a gang to beat 'em
"Authoritarians to the left = communists, authoritarians to the right = fascists. What's an individualist libertarian in the middle to do?"
Well, since your type has been bent over sideways, get some lube and lip balm cause your in for a good long fuckn' from both ends.
They both be living on little blue pills, keep'n them good and hard.
Get long, KY and Chapstick...its a winning combo.
Operation Mayhem... Where do I sign up?
So we're all pretty much human with odd ideas? I can agree with that. Where is the stacker?
We really are fucked aint we?
Funny, yes indeed, relevant, yip, the way it is? Who knows?
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The true insanity does not lie with the authoritarians, as they are psychopaths. The true insanity lies with the obedientarians, those that willingly obey and follow the psychopaths' edicts of pay this, do this, go here, don't go there, etc.
Obedience is the insanity.
An American, not US subject.
All it takes for evil to prevail is for good people to do nothing.
Where is the fucking Nihilist Authoritarian like Hitler, or Bush? Please take a good look at the cartoon characterizations and tell me where the agressive American Government of George Bush would fit in? The cartoonist must be a Republican Authoritarian IMHO. Clearly, the cartoon depicts left leaning policy positions whereas it avoids right wing extremism
in the form of gun ownership and war. President Bush Jr. stated that 'he was a wartime president' and that is not representative of the cartoon depiction when it comes to the Warmonger Authoritarian. Once again America is attempting to have others view the Americanization of Internet
with propagandized cartoon characters that do not accurately depict American authoritarianism as a global brand of violent Hegemony and ultimately nihilistic tendencies on the part of governance via USA. The USA is so benevolent I just get all warm and fuzzy inside thinking about it.
Maybe you should read it again, dumbass.
terrified
xenophobe
following orders
Since when is gun ownership and war right-wing? Obomber is spreading death and destruction just like Dubya, except he has a Nobel Peace prize from the leftists. As far as gun ownership, the left is just as much in support of gun ownership, except they think only the government should own guns. Figure out how many of those categories that mentality falls under
Matt Groening created the bast comic panels ever. Funniest is Jeff & Akbar - the gay Mooslum Brother/Lovers - a classic.
http://www.buzzfeed.com/summeranne/13-of-the-best-life-in-hell-comics-by...
I started reading in late 80s while in college in Seattle. I have a few 1st editions of the Life in Hell books - not signed though - :(
NoVa
Akbar & Jeff's Cryonics Hut...
If you look closely, notice these two characters facial structure/expressions bear an eerie resemblance to Bill Maher...
No, but the GF is.
The original was so much better...
'Authoritarian' is good - but the term is generally for those who have an understanding of history, and/or actually LIVING through an authoritarian regime. I prefer a term that nearly Everyone can relate to - even the 'authoritarian' himself, as he/she is subjected to it from time to time, whether or not they are aware - or care:
'Control Freak'.
Beware of signs bitchez
Beware of labels... You might be inadverntly tagged with one or more.
Everyone gets a label.
Just make sure you fit yours.
sold out elitist snob with cultural elitism and a dash xenophobia sugar coating a soft moral codified psychopathic dominant persona.
Stay Bitter ZH
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That is the 20th time you've copied and pasted the exact same post in 2 days.
YOUR POST IS BULLSHIT SPAM.
ANY IDEA EXPRESSED IN YOUR POST IS BULLSHIT.
http://www.zerohedge.com/search/user_comments?name=SidKhadak
You are a spambot, not even a lower primate.
Lately ZH has seen an influx of spammer and trolls. These people have been with ZH for only a few weeks.
Last time I went nutz in the China shop over a spambot I copied and pasted the same reply 6 times.
Given the subject of the thread, I couldn't pass up the irony.
Sounds like my wife.
Tee-hee...! PRICELESS!
"Liberal" authoritarians.
"Conservative" authoritarians.
"Democrat" authoritarians.
"Republican" authoritarians.
Socialist authoritarians.
...and more...
i believe the purpose of the government is to level the playing field, protect critical sectors of the economy (ideally through nationalization), create a good economic environment that encourages growth, and generally provide for the stability and wellbeing of the society. yes, this means you do things like have UHC (if you don't like that idea, then you should also be against ALL insurance pools), it means things like mandatory retirement ages (sorry, you're not all that special, make way for the next generation please, you can still be a consultant or start your own company), it means things like things being done for the common good as well. It does NOT mean everything being regulated to some kafkaesque hell though. It means that exceptions need to be made now and again that are supported with documentation, it does not mean rules must be devised to try and capture all cases and all exceptions however. The notion of "legal precedence" is utterly retarded as well and only makes things worse. Nice for reference, but in the end all it does is give unelected judges the power to make laws, which has gotta be the dumbest thing ever. "Rule of law" is disgusting in a pure form, the same as "rule of man" is... the ideal society is capable of finding a balance between the two. When a parasitic company hides fine print gotcha clauses, the courts need to be able to just throw it out entirely rather than siding with the company. "Spirit of the law", "good faith" and "common sense" must prevail over "letter of the law"... for as it stands now, companies craft together complex vehicles and structures to turn the illegal into "legal" and get away with it, this shit needs to end. Furthermore, politicians making "campaign promises" must be held to account legally.
Lame, as usual.
Good news! I passed.