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America Secretly Recruited Thousands Of Nazis As Cold War "Assets"

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Winston Churchill once said that "You can always count on Americans to do the right thing - after they've tried everything else." By 'everything else' apparently he also meant hiring thousands of Nazis as Cold War spies and informants and, according to the NYT, "as recently as the 1990s, concealing the government’s ties to some still living in America."

Because remember when merely associating with Nazi war criminals was enough to get you thrown out of polite society in perpetuity and likely thrown in a US prison, or worse? Well, when the one doing the association is that creature of utmost "fluidity" when it comes to matters of morality, the US government, apparently preaching moral superiority while invading and targeting for extermination world "dictators" whose only crime is being "evil" according to the US government's pristine moral compass, then everything is forgiven. But before the truth is revealed there will be years of denying, misrepresenting the facts, and outright lying.

So here, according to the NYT, are the facts about Uncle Sam's employment of Nazis for decades. "At the height of the Cold War in the 1950s, law enforcement and intelligence leaders like J. Edgar Hoover at the F.B.I. and Allen Dulles at the C.I.A. aggressively recruited onetime Nazis of all ranks as secret, anti-Soviet “assets,” declassified records show."

And while Germans justified their actions during World War II by merely following orders, how did the US seek to validate its grotesque actions? Here is the NYT with the winning phrase of the day, if not year:

They believed the ex-Nazis’ intelligence value against the Russians outweighed what one official called “moral lapses” in their service to the Third Reich.

And there it is: moral lapses. When the market crashes, and the US economy's long-deferred collapse is now a fact, prepare to hear much more about the so-called moral lapses of bankers, Federal Reserve officials, and tenured economist during the upcoming public tribunals.

But back to America's double standard in purshing vs retaining Nazi criminals:

The agency hired one former SS officer as a spy in the 1950s, for instance, even after concluding he was probably guilty of “minor war crimes.”

 

And in 1994, a lawyer with the C.I.A. pressured prosecutors to drop an investigation into an ex-spy outside Boston implicated in the Nazis’ massacre of tens of thousands of Jews in Lithuania, according to a government official.

 

Evidence of the government’s links to Nazi spies began emerging publicly in the 1970s. But thousands of records from declassified files, Freedom of Information Act requests and other sources, together with interviews with scores of current and former government officials, show that the government’s recruitment of Nazis ran far deeper than previously known and that officials sought to conceal those ties for at least a half-century after the war.

 

In 1980, F.B.I. officials refused to tell even the Justice Department’s own Nazi hunters what they knew about 16 suspected Nazis living in the United States.

And here's why the US did everything in its power to keep the awful truth hidden: "Some spies for the United States had worked at the highest levels for the Nazis."

One
SS officer, Otto von Bolschwing, was a mentor and top aide to Adolf
Eichmann, architect of the “Final Solution,” and wrote policy papers on
how to terrorize Jews.

 

Yet after the war, the C.I.A. not only hired him as a spy in Europe, but relocated him and his family to New York City in 1954, records show. The move was seen as a “a reward for his loyal postwar service and in view of the innocuousness of his [Nazi] party activities,” the agency wrote.

Anyone reading this with nothing but disgust would be delighted to know that Bolschwing's own son was stunned by the two-faced nature of the US government:

His son, Gus von Bolschwing, who learned many years later of his father’s ties to the Nazis, sees the relationship between the spy agency and his father as one of mutual convenience forged by the Cold War.

 

“They used him, and he used them,” Gus von Bolschwing, now 75, said in an interview. “It shouldn’t have happened. He never should have been admitted to the United States. It wasn’t consistent with our values as a country.”

It went so far that America would do everything in its power to hide its pathological moral failure from even its closest of allies, the Israeli:

Agency officials were worried as well that Mr. von Bolschwing might be named as Eichmann’s “collaborator and fellow conspirator and that the resulting publicity may prove embarrassing to the U.S.” a C.I.A. official wrote.

 

After two agents met with Mr. von Bolschwing in 1961, the agency assured him it would not disclose his ties to Eichmann, records show. He lived freely for another 20 years before prosecutors discovered his wartime role and prosecuted him. He agreed to give up his citizenship in 1981, dying months later.

The shocking bottom line:

In all, the American military, the C.I.A., the F.B.I. and other agencies used at least 1,000 ex-Nazis and collaborators as spies and informants after the war, according to Richard Breitman, a Holocaust scholar at American University who was on a government-appointed team that declassified war-crime records.

 

The full tally of Nazis-turned-spies is probably much higher, said Norman Goda, a University of Florida historian on the declassification team, but many records remain classified even today, making a complete count impossible.

One can only speculate: by now most are either dead or "suicided" just like the Deutsche Bankers: "None of the spies are known to be alive today."

And while none of this comes as a surprise, especially in the aftermath of the Snowden revelations, one wonders if the world have to wait another 50 or so years before it is declassified that the CIA has been the primary and instigator of every current conflict around the globe, from the Ukraine civil war to ISIS?

 

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Mon, 10/27/2014 - 21:08 | 5384417 Chupacabra-322
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Yes, and the Pure Evil Psychopath was Marcus Wolf who was intrical in helping another Pure Evil Criminal Psychopath Bush Jr. formulate the Dept. Of Homeland Security.

Or as I like to refer to it as:

D. ept.

of

H. uman

S. acrifice

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 20:15 | 5384279 Blazed
Mon, 10/27/2014 - 20:28 | 5384350 The_Prisoner
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They are the same people, dude.

Tue, 10/28/2014 - 06:54 | 5385302 Rememberweimar
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National Socialism and Judaism are extreme opposites.

National Socialism is when we the people have control of the money printing press and it's corresponding currency.

Judaism is when the parasites print themselves money and buy all of OUR resources, leaving we the people to slowly get poorer and poorer until we starve to death.

Remember Weimar

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 20:10 | 5384295 p00k1e
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This is going to cost us a lot!

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 20:12 | 5384302 Colonel Klink
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The USA is such a benovolent power serving the world and beacon of light. /SARCASM

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 20:16 | 5384313 virgilcaine
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The Nazis were hired by nasa for their expertise in rockets.

 http://www.businessinsider.com/nazi-scientists-space-program-2014-2

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 20:14 | 5384315 Optimusprime
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Such tripe.  "Moral lapses" does not apply to Churchill??!

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 20:17 | 5384319 q99x2
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Loyd Blankfein works for Hitler bitchez.

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 20:17 | 5384322 williambanzai7
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Vichy DC is a cesspitt of hollow statist righteousness.

Tue, 10/28/2014 - 06:57 | 5385304 Rememberweimar
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And their evil agenda is the exact opposite of what we the people want. We want our money printing press back from the Jews.

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 20:21 | 5384331 Robot Traders Mom
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Obviously the Nazi ties to the US, Vatican, etc are nothing new, but it is nice to see the NYT at least publish it, even if it was buried...

www.TopTheNews.com

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 20:23 | 5384334 Eahudimac
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This was operation paperclip. Never officially admitted to by .gov, but well known to a small number of people.

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 20:33 | 5384347 Son of Captain Nemo
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Oh my goodness "but we never knew"?!!!...

Gotta dust this one off the shelf for posterity... As well as this one once again besides what we already knew about the importation of Von Braun!!!

Nazis and Zionists...

Actually?!!!  I'll take the Nazi over the Zionist any day of the week!

Jesus H. Christ but the Americans are like pigs in mud with their own reputation... But not to worry.  Because that fierce reputation is about to get slapped like the mouthy  little "bitch" that we are when they start a war in Eastern Europe that they won't finish like all the other one(s) since 1951.  Only this one will finish quite differently for our "red berets"!!!

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 22:03 | 5384626 Son of Captain Nemo
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My, my, my, my... But the Zionist beanies and the berets in the U.S. military that lick their circumcised dicks are out in force on this page tonight!

Just when will the U.S.S. Liberty and 9/11 finally sink in for all of you cheesepope faithful that have served both past and present that do their bidding even when they kill you for your "loyalty"?!!!

Tue, 10/28/2014 - 01:46 | 5385061 The9thDoctor
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I don't support City of London controlled Zionism and I don't support Vatican-controlled Nazism.

My "loyalty" is to individual freedom.

I don't fall for this either/or junk.

Tue, 10/28/2014 - 07:04 | 5385310 Rememberweimar
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National Socialism is freedom from the Jew bankers parasitic grip on our government...

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 20:32 | 5384355 ekm1
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And once for all, the idiocy that jews run USA is finally settled.

Move on.

 

So, what is wrong using former natzis as spies? Almost all germans were natzis at the time.

 

 

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 20:34 | 5384366 The_Prisoner
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You should really change your avatar for a checkers board.

Tue, 10/28/2014 - 02:05 | 5385081 The9thDoctor
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Tic Tac Toe would be more appropriate.

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 22:20 | 5384690 nmewn
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"Almost all germans were natzis at the time."

On that point alone, I want to say you're right. Many were forced/coerced into joining the nazi party, it was "the majority" and if you didn't, you were looked at suspiciously. Go along to get along, its understandable and reprehensible at the same time.

Tough times, need a job? Da Fuerher will provide, until he shoots himself in the head.

Its tragic and maddening and understandable all at once, maniacs...in charge...at one point, in time.

Tue, 10/28/2014 - 02:02 | 5385072 Uncle Remus
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Join ze Democratic Party?!? Ofer my dead body.

Oh, vait...

------------------------------------------------------

So, anyways, I'm out on the stoop drinkin' my morning Irish joe and this guy comes strolling down the street kinda slow and purposeful shouting "bring out yer dead".

My neighbour pipes up, "What's 'e on about?".

So I says to him "Same very election. Lefties doin' a get out the vote."

Tue, 10/28/2014 - 06:40 | 5385284 nmewn
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lol...here ya go Unc.

When is freedom of speech not freedom of speech? Why, when we don't agree with it dammit!!!

"TV host Bill Maher’s controversial comments about Islam have sparked a petition to remove him as the December commencement speaker at the University of California, Berkeley.

The Change.org petition, which had gathered nearly 2,000 signatures by Monday afternoon, was authored by Marium Navid, a senator with the student government group Associated Students of the University of California, with the support of Khwaja Ahmed, a member of the the campus advocacy group Middle Eastern, Muslim and South Asian Coalition, the campus’ Daily Californian reported Sunday.

“Bill Maher is a blatant bigot and racist who has no respect for the values UC Berkeley students and administration stand for,” the petition reads. “In a time where climate is a priority for all on campus, we cannot invite an individual who himself perpetuates a dangerous learning environment. Bill Maher's public statements on various religions and cultures are offensive and his dangerous rhetoric has found its way into our campus communities.”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/27/bill-maher-berkeley-commencement_n_6058102.html

Yes, you see a non-dangerous learning enviroment is a PC enviroment, where minority opinion is shut down ;-)

Tue, 10/28/2014 - 07:07 | 5385316 Rememberweimar
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We the people are tired of being told what to think by you chosenites...
Remember Weimar

Tue, 10/28/2014 - 08:56 | 5385567 Uncle Remus
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Well, if Bill Maher were just a blatant bigot it'd be one thing, but he's not.

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 20:33 | 5384370 WOD
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Rocketry and Propulsion scientists, Eugenicists, among other types of specialized individuals, were all brought here after the war. I'm really surprised the author of the article didn't mention 'Paperclip' at all, but I can also understand why the omission occured, as 'Paperclip' didn't include spies, and the author didn't want to muddy the waters, perhaps. Nonetheless, old news regarding 'Operation Paperclip', as well as 'Operation Gladio', so the use of nazis to spy or target political movements in the former USSR, isn't much of a surprise. As the events of this century have unfolded, I was often reminded how similar the recent regimes in D.C. were, to the former Third Reich. I saw the replay and repeat of nearly all the tactics the nazis used to sieze power. Reichstag false flags (9-11), gun control and registration schemes (although this began under the Weimar regime, the nazis got the lists after they took power), and now we have the 'muslim extremists' as enemy number one, anf then there's ISIl/ISIS as the faux Polish invaders, and the takeover of the media, Goerring and Hess would be proud.

@Radiobomb, IBM and Siemens both played a part in aiding the enemy too. IBM designed the computer coding to implement the tattoo system and the computer to track it. Siemens was instrumental in designing electronics for the radar systems, and (I think) the guidance systems for the V-2, which were still primitive, but much more sophisticated than the V-1 rockets.

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 20:42 | 5384397 teslaberry
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 seriously though...think about this. 

 

the new world WAS american. now 'america' is kicking the old worlds ass while china is rising viz-a=viz the old world of western europe. 

 

how do you think this plays out for the usa? same as it plays out for many empires? only there is a bigger behemoth to fall. so the collapse of the usa will take much longer and be far more epic in its slow motion catastrophe. the usa IS NOT rome. the us military is something altogether different  from the nation of the united states. 

 

the u.s. military will one day be required to stomp out rebellion in the united states and when that time comes it will be easier for them to do it then you think. they don't have to 'conquer' the heartland, they merely have to help guid the country into poverty as time takes its toll and the purchasing power is slowly sucked out of the country's 95% of consumers as it was in western europe. this is the game plan. it is like letting a patient bleed out slowly and making sure he doesn't hurt anyone while he occasionally spasms. 

the plan is to turn the heartland of the u.s. into the heartland shithole of many third world countries. high crime IS GOOD , because it keeps the plebians afraid and too concerned too form their own militia efforts against government. 

the cia makes sure organized proletarian groups don't get large enough like SA/SS to threaten the rank and file armed forces through civilian revolution ----which is SUPER EASY IN THE USA SINCE RACIAL BAITING, AND INTEREST GROUP POLITICS OF MINORITY , FEMINIST, AND IMMIGRANT balkanize the masses against themselves. 

keeping the tower of babel from being reorganized is an EASY job. almost as easy as the fed 'allowing' systemic deflation to occur unchecked as a natural consequence of failing to print more money. it's keepin the tower standing and serving the efforts of the elite that is the hard part. milking the peasants becomes harder and harder as entropy unfolds, but letting them eat one another alive. well----that is SUPER EASY. 

and that is what happens when things really do fall apart. 

that---AND major revolution. 

when things are really really fucked in the USA , you will know because instead of causing constant panic and manufacturing consent by constant televised exposure to fearmongering----the media will suddenly be all rosy and telling you to calm down and tleling you that truly everything is fine and there is nothing to be afraid of. that is when you know they are preparing the proles for the endgame. 

 

until then, it's really not as bad as it can be. 

 

 

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 20:46 | 5384403 limacon
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Of course they did .

http://andreswhy.blogspot.com/2009/10/fuehrer-prinzip.html

They nearly lost , and had to uderstand why .

The result was Darpa , Skunk works , etc

Tue, 10/28/2014 - 07:07 | 5385317 Rememberweimar
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Those are Jewish organizations...

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 20:46 | 5384411 NOZZLE
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Judging by some of the shit I see in the comments, either the nazis or their son's daughters and grandkids are active users.

Tue, 10/28/2014 - 05:54 | 5385236 Joe A
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Judging by the up and downvotes I think you're right. The neonazis at their mutual jerk off sessions in the woods found out there is a site called ZH.

Tue, 10/28/2014 - 07:09 | 5385319 Rememberweimar
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We the people have as much right to post here as you Chosenite parasites do...

Remember Weimar

Tue, 10/28/2014 - 10:32 | 5385878 Joe A
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You take the definition of people very broadly now.

Tue, 10/28/2014 - 11:12 | 5386025 The_Dude
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Would you prefer goyim?

Tue, 10/28/2014 - 13:51 | 5386644 Joe A
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I know the real Dude wouldn't.

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 20:53 | 5384415 One Eyed Jack
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I think that the Nazis were not defeated in WWII I think that it was a mutually collaborative plan to take the eugenicists plans global.

FDR and others in US gov supported Hitler's ideas behind racial/ cultural purity. Consider this what if WWII was merely a population reduction scheme in order to eliminate 3-5% of the worlds population. This event would achieve some significant results:

-- advancements in science, medicine, and technology experimentation without limits
-- the afore mentioned reduction of global population targeting the weakest and at risk the very old the very young the poor and chronically ill.
-- survival of the fittest
-- further ensconcing and enriching the ruling class.

In the end war is nothing but cheap entertainment or the ruling elite as we slaughter each other for king and country and glory. It was, is and perpetually will be a farce. Consider Henry Kissingers own words:

- "Military Men Are Just Dumb, Stupid Animals To Be Used As Pawns In Foreign Policy"

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 21:23 | 5384500 jm
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Not sure that "WTF!?!" Is adequate here, but whatever.

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 23:08 | 5384830 Kinskian
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The Nazis committed crimes in pursuit of racial ideals, but compared with the dysgenic policies and dictates of the postwar liberal democracies, the Nazis at least appear rational.

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 23:45 | 5384906 jm
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The Nazis only appear rational to a blithering idiot, or a Nazi wannabe. I'm thinking you are both.

 

Tue, 10/28/2014 - 00:15 | 5384944 Kinskian
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I think the holocaust is too personal a subject for you perhaps. For most of us, WWII was a long time ago, and there are greater threats to our freedom and survival today than long dead Germans and their political system. 

Tue, 10/28/2014 - 05:53 | 5385234 Joe A
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Not if that political system lives on.

Tue, 10/28/2014 - 07:10 | 5385321 Rememberweimar
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Long live National Socialism!

Remember Weimar

Tue, 10/28/2014 - 10:32 | 5385871 Joe A
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Was supposed to last a 1,000 years. Oops! Must be painful for you to accept that the Jews despite efforts of the likes of you have lasted much longer than that. That is because Jews are smart and nazis are not.

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 21:06 | 5384458 homiegot
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Ever wonder why we were able to develop all this technology?

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 21:53 | 5384594 jm
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Extraterrestrial sperm

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 23:42 | 5384901 NOZZLE
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Start with Tesla for your stable and efficient electrical power, radios and circuits and keep thanking Jews for a substantial part of the rest, the sweed Johnso who worked at Lockheed

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 21:11 | 5384467 Bunga Bunga
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Since Snowden it's no surprise. What's next? US invented Hitler? Yawn.

Tue, 10/28/2014 - 08:59 | 5385577 Uncle Remus
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She's running for president.

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 21:30 | 5384478 jm
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So the relentless campaign to make everyone hate the United States and love Putin the great takes a very old turn...

Just to refresh my memory of the 1950s, Stalin had killed how many MILLIONS?

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 21:57 | 5384609 Infinite QE
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And the descendants of Stalin and his bolsheviks are now firmly in control of the west as the neocon/neoliberal two step tyranny.

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 22:02 | 5384623 jm
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Cut the neoliberal neowhatever Bolshevik crap. Control and expansion of power is what government does best. It's still better in some places than others.

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 22:14 | 5384665 Gadfly
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If your standards were any lower, they'd be less than zero.

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 22:18 | 5384677 jm
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Well played. I concede my expectations are in the gutter at this point.

Tue, 10/28/2014 - 07:12 | 5385322 Rememberweimar
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My expectations are that the sheeple will wake up soon and realize that National or Global Socialism is the answer to the global virus of Judaism...

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 21:31 | 5384516 MsCreant
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I sort of don't feel so bad.

Try this one on for size. The truth. No one is pure. Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. We are absolutely corrupt. But this is how it is. It is not okay, it is something to rail against. But it is human nature. It is how we are wired. Our ideals are ideals, a good idea, but this is what we devolve to if we don't consciously try to do better.

I wonder what the world looks like if we just accept this about ourselves? Do we all become stone cold sociopaths trying to "get ours?" Do we all become mindful, every second, that if we cave into this tendency then all is lost?

Love is real. Kindness is real too. We can cultivate that. When I used to self identify as a Liberal, this is what I thought I was doing. It was a formula. It was not mindful but auto-pilot. It betrayed me. I am responsible for myself, every second. No dogma will get it done. We can study them, but they will fail because they are too generalized.

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 22:34 | 5384724 WillyGroper
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Love is real. Kindness is real too.


They never fail.

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 22:43 | 5384760 MsCreant
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How else does a garden grow? You can force it, or get real and work with it. Force will lose in the long haul. I know you know this, just fun to say it to a fellow gardener.

I still have tomatoes trying to happen. They are green. I will need to harvest soon, anyway, but not yet. It is 70-60 ish here, 50s at night. Peppers. Figs a pleanty, not ready yet.

Can we beat the cold? 

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 22:53 | 5384796 WillyGroper
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Figs! Yum. It was 90 here the past 2 days. 

Chemtrails got my tomatos a long time ago. Plants turned white like all the chlorophyll was sucked out of them. They were fine while they lasted. I don't even go outside when they're spraying. The clouds always have a grey underbelly completely blocking the sun. Might have a few peppers that the tomato plants protected.

I'm going to have to rent a bobcat to dig johnson grass. Sourge of my existence.  If I can get that done, I've got a mound of wood chips to try & a cold frame to build to protect spinach, kale & chard from the 21 century agent orange. 

Tue, 10/28/2014 - 07:15 | 5385324 Rememberweimar
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Too bad I have to leave my farm to go get that green confetti away from the parasites so I can just give it right back to them... Property taxes...

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 22:54 | 5384792 nostromo17
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Just olame gobbledigook as far as I can see.

Tue, 10/28/2014 - 01:31 | 5385046 MsCreant
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Sans gobble and gook: People are evil when they get their way too much without consequences. Folks get bogged down in the details of it and label it history. We do this, excuse anything, unfettered.

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 21:39 | 5384543 BeerMe
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This is nothing compared to all the commies that infiltrated the government in the 50s.

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 21:45 | 5384572 Infinite QE
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The true history of WTF went on in WW2 will probably never be known, just as what happened with the jew bolshevik slaughter of 100 million Russians will never be made into a Spielberg blockbuster. Sick shit the writers of history concoct.

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 22:11 | 5384659 Gadfly
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History is a lie.

Tue, 10/28/2014 - 05:36 | 5385216 smacker
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"History is a lie."

I agree with you. A lot of hugely important history are lies.

But this is a very serious matter. What happens when people cease to believe (or find to be false) the fundamental history that their nation's elites claim the nation is built upon? And govern accordingly?

Seems to me that revolution is the only way foward.

Tue, 10/28/2014 - 07:17 | 5385333 Rememberweimar
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Some of us know the truth because our ancestors were there. The Nazis saved the world from the evils of Judaism. That's the truth. Deal with it.

Tue, 10/28/2014 - 07:43 | 5385402 smacker
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The Nazis did nothing of the sort.

And why should I accept the word of "4 weeks and 2 days"?

{shrug}

Tue, 10/28/2014 - 06:30 | 5385269 Apostate2
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'History is philosophy teaching by examples'

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 21:55 | 5384602 Infinite QE
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Sharkhunters is a good resource to get closer to the truth of what happened in WW2

 

http://sharkhunters.com/

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 22:19 | 5384688 Swave
Mon, 10/27/2014 - 21:58 | 5384613 Wahooo
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"He never should have been admitted to the United States. It wasn’t consistent with our values as a country."

RFLMAO.

Tue, 10/28/2014 - 07:20 | 5385337 Rememberweimar
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I love how the chosenites are always telling us what our values are...

Where would we be without them?

We would all be free, that's where we would be.

Remember Weimar

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 22:30 | 5384694 royal
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some points of clarification about "nazis" and what exactly was taking place in Germany prior to WWII -

 

The Nazis came about in Germany as a direct result of Jewish Bolshevism.

These Communist Jews were trying to turn Germany into a marxist dictatorship like they did in Russia and in Ukraine, where MILLIONS were slaughtered.

Had Germany fallen to Communism, so to would all of Western Europe, eventually.

But Adolf Hitler and the "terrible" Nazis came along and stopped the Communists dead in their tracks, and for this they should be praised, not comdemned as monsters.

 

 

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 22:45 | 5384741 jm
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your comment, and the upvotes, just staggering. Ernst Nolte was a jackass for saying it before you. It's not just a rationalization it is conjuring the devil.

Tue, 10/28/2014 - 05:48 | 5385229 Joe A
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Eventually every site on the net will attract neo nazis unfortunately.

Tue, 10/28/2014 - 07:22 | 5385343 Rememberweimar
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You are evidence that it attracts parasites...

Tue, 10/28/2014 - 10:28 | 5385857 Joe A
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4 weeks, that's how long you have been with ZH. You are the parasite here.

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 22:43 | 5384762 nostromo17
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And another over simplification by a Jew Hater...la ti da. Ignorance is bliss eh?

Tue, 10/28/2014 - 07:23 | 5385346 Rememberweimar
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Jew hater? Is that the best you can do?

What do you expect we the people to feel for the Jew after he has been stealing everything from us for thousands of years?

Of course the world hates Jews!

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 22:47 | 5384772 nostromo17
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You do touch on the interesting topic however of our reluctant alliance with the communists since the U.S. and say Pope Pious the 12th would tend to be fascist or antisemitic around that time. Then there's the split in the Communists when Stalin comes to power as a sort of commie fascist and genocide mongerer. Basically Catholic = Fascist.

Tue, 10/28/2014 - 05:47 | 5385227 Joe A
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Points of clarification or glorification?

Western power initially supported the nazis because of their stance against communism but then they found out what kind of whackos they had on their hands. These nazi wackos risked that the whole of Europe eventually would be run over by communists. Germany's 'Drang nach Osten' en 'Lebensraum' ideology made that all possible. Stalin just had to sit back and wait while he sent millions of Russians to their death that were trying send millions of Germans to their death

Tue, 10/28/2014 - 07:24 | 5385350 Rememberweimar
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You kinda got it backwards...

Tue, 10/28/2014 - 10:28 | 5385852 Joe A
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No, you're the one that is backwards.

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 22:24 | 5384701 Everybodys All ...
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 hiring thousands of Nazis as Cold War spies and informants ...

ZH's hatred for everything America is alive and well I see.

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 22:38 | 5384722 MsCreant
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With a comment like that, you show you miss EVERYTHING. It all depends on your perspective when you take it in.

I am sorry for you.

Hint, it ain't all about the US, but it is about us.

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 23:03 | 5384824 jm
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He has a point. The dogma is that the US is uniformly flawed hypocritical and even murderous. Yet Putin is portrayed as a bonafide hero.

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 23:17 | 5384851 MsCreant
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I hear you. My point is that all of us, Russian, German, Jew, Arab, Palestinian, German, United States of America, Africa (you see where this is going) are in it. Russians get air time because they are coming up with stuff about the US that has to be stared at. The US has so much control of the conversation. Every last one of us benefiting is a murderous hypocrite.

I don't know if Tyler had any of that in mind when he/she posted this or not. But saying this is about "just the US" is waaaaay too narrow. It is about power. China is abusing it. Russia is abusing it. We cannot name a government that is not abusing it. The founding fathers were on to something big, so big, that without those who had the original insight, it was doomed to need to be re-experienced again, and again. One way to say it is that we lost our vigilance. Another way too say it is that we (these generations that are alive) never had it. I am afraid we are going to have to suffer to "get it."  

Tue, 10/28/2014 - 07:26 | 5385353 Rememberweimar
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Putin is on to the Jew World Order and has vowed along with China to make it a Just World Order.

I guess all of you Jews better say good bye to your career of theft and look for jobs!

Tue, 10/28/2014 - 07:56 | 5385422 MsCreant
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(Sigh)

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 23:22 | 5384720 vjmali
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It's no news. The whole article was taken from one of the best researched books with over 100 page of bibliography called Blowback by Christopher Simpson. But you will not find it in USA. Mine was mailed from UK.

Tue, 10/28/2014 - 09:27 | 5385641 Kinskian
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It's out of print, nothing sinister about it. Amazon has numerous used copies available shipping from the US.

I think a better explanation of how we got where we are today can be had from reading Witness by Whittaker Chambers. 

 

 

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 22:43 | 5384758 nostromo17
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wernher_von_Braun not exactly a Nazi but...we did grab a lot of German scientists. This article is old news really. Read Gravities Rainbow or something instead. The atom bomb guys...

Without the V-2 where would we be?

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 22:46 | 5384766 lakecity55
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We got von Braun, Stalin got high-level techs. Neither side cared about morality when it came to rockets.

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 22:43 | 5384763 lakecity55
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"Ahh, Reggie, we can now implement our commie plans!"
"No zo fasst, Mr Resodent!"
"Who are you guys?"
"I am Hans. Ziss is Abraham. Ve are Nazi and Jew."
"Hey, but you guys are enemies!"
"Ha, a useful tale for ze masses. Ve haff alvays vorked together, Right, Abe?"
"Ja, Hans.
"ooohh, Baby, have those bad men put that pistol away. Do what they say!"
"OK."

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 22:49 | 5384779 nostromo17
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Rewtiting  history in an anachronistic manner seems to be another unfortunate side effect of political correctness and the fact that the youth graduating from "universities" last 10 to 20 years are basically ignorant. Political correctness just leads to lies. And Ignorance is the best tool of the politically correct.

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 22:53 | 5384793 Choomwagon Roof Hits
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Unit 731 was brutal beyond imagination...they made the Einsatzgruppen and Mengele look like nice guys...the fact that the "Arsenal of Democracy" was willing to grant any of them or any of the Nazi war criminals clemency says enough about FDR, Truman and company.  Stalin was a POS but goddamn, the experiments Unit 731 did are something else.

Tue, 10/28/2014 - 07:32 | 5385359 Rememberweimar
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There is no such thing as "Nazi war criminal", that's all just a bunch of Jewish Hollywood Propaganda...

The Nazi's were, are and always will be war heroes!

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 22:59 | 5384813 Duc888
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.....yawn.

 

Pretty much anyone who could read knew about this shit over the last 30 years.

 

Oh, what is Bush's REAL family name?

 

 

hahahahahahaha

 

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 23:01 | 5384817 Crusader75
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With their famous lack of self-awareness, only Americans would be surprised by this story.

Tue, 10/28/2014 - 06:24 | 5385260 Apostate2
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No just @George Washington who is eleven yrs old with hair on fire. 

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 23:03 | 5384821 SocialismIsCancer
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What child wrote this simple-minded idiotic crap ?!?!?

Obviously does not understand the real world and the real dangers in it. If you cannot run in the tall grass with the big dogs (ie understand complex real world dangers and innumerable conundrums) then stay on the porch with the puppies and SHUT UP!

Tue, 10/28/2014 - 07:33 | 5385367 Rememberweimar
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There is no such thing as "Nazi war criminal", that's all just a bunch of Jewish Hollywood Propaganda...

The Nazi's were, are and always will be war heroes!

Socialism is the solution

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 23:11 | 5384837 BouncyTheWonderbunni
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WTF ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And I am drunk!

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 23:16 | 5384853 BouncyTheWonderbunni
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I started visting ZH about 4  yaers ago maybe 5 WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED?????????????????????????

Tue, 10/28/2014 - 09:03 | 5385593 Uncle Remus
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It got monetized.

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 23:25 | 5384876 FallenOne
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Current U.S magnificantly founded by second gen nazis, talmudic princes and generational occultists god bless america!

Tue, 10/28/2014 - 06:21 | 5385255 Apostate2
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Have you met @Tony Wilson. You should. A great romance in the making

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 23:52 | 5384899 anachronism
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The Nazis were bad. No! They were very bad. But not nearly as bad as the Jews want everyone to believe. Stalin and Lenin, combined, were ten times worse than the Nazis. The main reason why the Nazis get the hammer treatment is that the Jews basically ran the Soviet Union from 1919 t0 1949, during which Jews led the NKVD and the Commisars and were the heads of just about all of the major departments within the Soviet Union. The numbers of Christians (Jews call them "Facsist") killed, under Jewish Bolshevik rule, range between 30 million (the Kremlin's estimate) to 50 million (Kruschev's claim which Kagonovich agreed with) to 60 million (Solzyenitsin's estimate in his book "200 years together"). Jews ran an outrageous propaganda campaign in America and Britain which glorified the Soviets, while hiding or explaining away the horrors perpetrated upon the Russians and Ukrainians during the period. At the same time, they ran a vicious smear campaign against Germany and the Nazis, who -quite correctly- identified Jewish seditionists, anarchists, bolsheviks, communists (whatever you want to call them) as the greatest threat to the German nationalist movement.

The worst of the Nazi offenses against the Jews commenced after 1942, when the Nazis realized that they could not win. Up until then, Jews were treated no worse than Jews treated the Palestinians since 1947. Without excusing the crimes of the Nazis for killing hundreds of thousands of Jews during the process of their incarceration, about 70% of the Jews who died in the concentration camps did so in the final months of the war as a direct result of the American and British bombing campaigns, The total number of Jews killed while in Nazi captivity numbered between 2.5-2.7 million, the guilt for 2 million of which should be attributed to the Allies.

Even Winston Churcill wrote in his personal papers in 1938 (after the night of broken glass)  that The Jews in Germany had brought all this trouble upon themselves. Two years earlier, he wrote his "White Papaer" in which he detailed the seditious acts of "the Hebrews" in the British Mandate of Palestine. The Jews were -my words, not his, but I convey the same meaning- backstabbers, liars, and cheaters with no intention of allowing for a co-existence of Arab and Jew in Palestine.

Unfortunately, most people have acquired a deep--seated fear that learning the facts, from reading long-supressed documents and first-hand reports of diplomats, military men, politicians, lawyers and judges of that era -be they German, American, British, French, Russian, Polish, and even Jewish- will awaken them to the fact that the Jews have bamboozled them about the Nazi era and what was going on in Europe, America, and Palestine at the time.

George S. Patton knew;  so did James Forrestal; just to name two, who were killed because they would not stay silent. So the palpable fear among most Americans of crossing the Jews is probably well-justified.

Tue, 10/28/2014 - 03:33 | 5385140 TweedleDeeDooDah
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The Soviets also persecuted Jews when they rolled into eastern europe in the early 40s. Some of the first "disappeared", deported, jailed and executed were Jews.
The amounts of Jewish owned business was proportionally much bigger, in terms of numbers and values of the businesses when compared to non-Jewish ones "nationalized".

Tue, 10/28/2014 - 05:41 | 5385222 Joe A
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What do you mean when the Soviets rolled in eastern europe? By then there were no Jews left there.

So Jews had more shops and they valued more? Yes, all Jews were shopkeepers and filthy rich. That's why they had to be killed? Most Jews were just office workers, house wives, worked in mines, were day laborers. So their upper classes were relatively richer than non Jews? So that is why they all had to be killed?

Tue, 10/28/2014 - 07:36 | 5385376 Rememberweimar
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There is no such thing as "Nazi war criminal", that's all just a bunch of Jewish Hollywood Propaganda...

The Nazi's were, are and always will be war heroes!

Socialism is the solution.

Jews are the parasites that steal everyone's wealth.

Tue, 10/28/2014 - 06:32 | 5385268 barre-de-rire
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technologicaly germans were way better than usa.

 

plane bomber with guiding system is german.

us  took crashed plaen to  copy the system and upgrade it but concept was german.

reaktor is german invention.

the list is impressive.

i not use word nazi, coz nazi is part of german history, before being a nazi,  scientists & ingeeners remain germans..

 

 

anyway everytime someone in the world make something usa buy it back , put patent . usa create nothing, they steal.

 

 luckily usa engeeners are idiots and cannot copy stuff like  russian SHKVAAL-01V.

Tue, 10/28/2014 - 20:54 | 5388206 FredFlintstone
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double post.. Guess we are idiots :)

Tue, 10/28/2014 - 20:54 | 5388215 FredFlintstone
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"usa engeeners are idiots"... Ha, you wish.

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 23:45 | 5384905 Moe Howard
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Seems we got the who won the war thing bass ackwards.

Tue, 10/28/2014 - 03:30 | 5385137 TweedleDeeDooDah
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Yeah.... could you imagine if the Japanese and Nazis won?

We'd have been buying German and Japanese cars and electronics for years now at the expense of our own domestic industries...

Tue, 10/28/2014 - 05:36 | 5385219 Joe A
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Only when you'd have blue eyes and blond hair. If not, you would be the one making them until your slow and agonizing death.

Tue, 10/28/2014 - 07:37 | 5385381 Rememberweimar
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There is no such thing as "Nazi war criminal", that's all just a bunch of Jewish Hollywood Propaganda...

The Nazi's were, are and always will be war heroes!

Socialism is the solution.

Jews are the parasites that steal everyone's wealth.

Tue, 10/28/2014 - 10:27 | 5385849 Joe A
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There are websites for the likes of you. Your lot give ZH a bad name. Lately ZH has been attracting all sorts of loonies. From pro Russia or pro Kiev trolls to nazi lovers as yourself. You can recognize them by the fact they have been with ZH for only a short time such as yourself with only 4 weeks.

Tue, 10/28/2014 - 06:34 | 5385275 barre-de-rire
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to be precise, it is german cars and japs electronics... hey wait a minute !

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 23:54 | 5384921 Moccasin
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This just the tip of the iceberg on Nazi's in America. I am shocked that the eminent researcher, author and former OSI Justice Department Lawyer, John Loftus was not mentioned. Go read a great book written by John Loftus called America's Nazi Secret and check out the few youtube interviews that exist. YOU will be blown away and DO NOT minimize this by suggesting it is old news. The archives of this ugliness are just coming to light after being withheld for 'national security' purposes. There is a lot to this story and the powers want us to ignore it and minimize it because it still affects policy today! In short our government smuggled some of the worst NAZI war criminals into the USA to be used to fight the communists. http://youtu.be/Iszh2F3D2TE and see http://youtu.be/C-fM7i2GW0k

Tue, 10/28/2014 - 07:38 | 5385385 Rememberweimar
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There is no such thing as "Nazi war criminal", that's all just a bunch of Jewish Hollywood Propaganda...

The Nazi's were, are and always will be war heroes!

Socialism is the solution.

Jews are the parasites that steal everyone's wealth.

Tue, 10/28/2014 - 00:04 | 5384934 directaction
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Everyone knows this. At the time it was the right thing to do.

Tue, 10/28/2014 - 00:29 | 5384962 Moccasin
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Are you saying it was right to allow mass murders off the hook because they helped in the fight against communism? If so, we are also culpable for those murders / war crimes.

Tue, 10/28/2014 - 01:01 | 5385006 directaction
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You must mean Roosevelt and Churchill, the biggest mass killers since the plague of the 1300s.

FDR died before the World Court could get to him, but you're right, why humanity let Churchill off the hook is beyond me and you both. He should've been set against a brick wall, that's for sure.  

Tue, 10/28/2014 - 05:36 | 5385215 Joe A
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Yeah compared to them Hitler, Stalin and Mao were choir boys.

Tue, 10/28/2014 - 00:06 | 5384936 directaction
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Duplicate. 

Tue, 10/28/2014 - 00:26 | 5384959 Otto Zitte
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This isn't news. The story should be why the moles dragged this old saw out at this time.

Tue, 10/28/2014 - 00:36 | 5384975 robnume
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Notable reference by the author on one of the most evil pair of brothers to enter Amerikan politics: the Dulles brothers. Evil to the core! Good thing they're not around anymore...oh, wait; I forgot... the fucking Koch brothers!

Tue, 10/28/2014 - 00:43 | 5384987 Joe A
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Operation Paperclip, Nazis recruited as spies, Wallstreet's pre-ware investments in nazi-Germany, eugenics connection, Germany after the war keeping a lot of nazi Germans in high places within the civil sector, military and spy agencies, etc. These are all just 'minor moral lapses'.

Proponents will make you believe that the end justifies the means. You know, it was for saving the children.

Tue, 10/28/2014 - 01:45 | 5385060 Uncle Remus
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I'm shocked. Shocked I tell you to find that there are Nazis on the US Government payroll.

 

Oh wait...

Tue, 10/28/2014 - 03:04 | 5385121 Tigermoth
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This started before the end of WWII in Europe, these people were known as "stay behinds" it morphed into Operation Gladio, which essentially was the project to kill as many innocent civilians and politicians as possible and blame it on the communists to keep the communist parties from gaining strength in post war Europe. See the BBC documentary for a very good history of this. They say it was about 30,000 nazi "stay behinds" over the western world many taken to the USA. It is scary stuff, we aren't worth crap in their eyes, 2 hours plus and not the best quality YouTube, but it was the start of the CIA, MI6, Italian secret service, etc, false flag terror campaigns.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGHXjO8wHsA

Tue, 10/28/2014 - 03:58 | 5385163 MSimon
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Well the Nazis didn't like the Jews. And neither do a lot of prople at Zero Hedge. So there is that.

Tue, 10/28/2014 - 05:21 | 5385207 dreadnaught
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nobody really likes the Jews, period

Tue, 10/28/2014 - 07:40 | 5385388 Moe Howard
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Not even the Joos.

Tue, 10/28/2014 - 07:04 | 5385314 smacker
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I don't think anti-Jewishness was a fundamental or original part of Nazism. Nazis became to hate jews when they realised they were trying to destroy Germany's economy, including getting sanctions by other governments imposed on Germany etc. It was then that Hitler saw them as the enemy within and developed a plan to rid Germany/Europe of them once and for all.

Mussolini by contrast was surrounded by jewish advisors and ~35% of Italian jews joined his fascist party. And since Jews are known to be heavily into Marxism and communism, it's not difficult to see their attraction to Fascism. Same thing in America today.

Cue: the little red downer comes out to play.

Tue, 10/28/2014 - 04:18 | 5385176 mikelongisland
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Old news, repackaged as New...you're slipping here zero hedge.

Tue, 10/28/2014 - 06:15 | 5385251 Apostate2
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Yes indeed. Anyone who actually read  a few books over the past 40 years knows this. Not a revelation at all.

Tue, 10/28/2014 - 04:56 | 5385189 NuYawkFrankie
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Is this the scrolling-line Epilogue to that new Brad Pitt movie?

 

Anyway - I'd be less concerned about Nazis in the USA Govt then, and more concerned about the Bolsheviks running the USSA now.

Tue, 10/28/2014 - 05:33 | 5385213 Joe A
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Ever noticed how Hollywood is spewing out war movies and series some time before US goes to war again? You know, winning the hearts and minds? Personally, I can't watch them. Although the movies are not real they depict real events and I don't have the stomach anymore for watching men of opposing countries who in normal circumstences would get along nicely kill eachother for somebody else's political or financial cause.

Tue, 10/28/2014 - 07:42 | 5385394 Moe Howard
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Brad Pitt had a tough time pretending to be in WWII in his latest movie. They had a 5 day boot camp and everything.

 

Must be pure hell to be an actor. Plus he has to fuck that skeletor he married.

Tue, 10/28/2014 - 05:10 | 5385197 huggy_in_london
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It is well known that the US rounded up the top german/nazi scientists and brought them to america after the second world war.  Not sure why this is a surprise to anyone....

Tue, 10/28/2014 - 05:44 | 5385225 Global Observer
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Shame on the Nazis, working for a country like the USA!

Tue, 10/28/2014 - 06:29 | 5385266 Peter Pan
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You and I wish they were working for America. I am afraid they are all working for someone else. The USA is just the host for a humungous parasite.

Tue, 10/28/2014 - 10:45 | 5385929 Monty Burns
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That's true and as with most parasites it's slowlykilling its host,

Tue, 10/28/2014 - 06:01 | 5385231 Felix da Kat
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I can easily one-up all that: The american people elected an anti-american, effeminate, cokehead, lying, leftist, disgraceful, destroy-the-white-middle-class, marxist, atheist, black supremacist president in 2008 and again in 2012 !

Tue, 10/28/2014 - 05:56 | 5385238 pankowboy
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Can ZH kill the hyper-annoying fucking Prudential pop up that jumps in front of every story?

Tue, 10/28/2014 - 06:24 | 5385261 LULZBank
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Browsing ZH is like stepping into central London phonebooths.

Do NOT follow this link or you will be banned from the site!