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Is This The Reason Twitter Is Tumbling After Hours?

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While overall Twitter's just released Q3 numbers were more or less in line as expected, with Q3 EPS printing at just a penny, the same as expected on $361 million in revenues, $10 million higher than the $351 million consensus estimate, and even EBITDA of $68 million beating estimates of $52.8 million, the stock has tumbled by some 12% since reporting after hours.

And while the headline data appear normal, it is one of the gimmicky, non-GAAP "twitter-specific" indicators that the company came up with just to validate its growth story that appears to be the cause of the drop after hours, namely TWTR's Timeline Views/MAU, which declined across the board, and were down in both the US and Worldwide not only Y/Y (by -6% and -7%, respectively), but also down compared to the second quarter.

Is this the end of the great non-GAAP growth story? Judging by the market cap, which just lost about $3 billion in value, the answer may be yes.

 

 

Mark Mahaney seems to think its all ok from here...

 

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Mon, 10/27/2014 - 16:21 | 5383578 Mohan
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Perished by its own sword, MAU?

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 16:35 | 5383616 aVileRat
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Yup.

 

Refresher for the next round of chickensoup stump speeches:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXBswFfh6AY#t=279

Consider that my rebuttal to the "inflation" argument in the earlier thread, on how gov. subsidies/speculation needs to be netted out of any argument that retail non-core inflation in meat/cereals is proof for US hyperinflation. I cba to find my comments in the other thread's spam. Sue me.

 

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 16:57 | 5383696 max2205
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20X rev is cheap......right?

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 17:02 | 5383712 FuzzyDunlop21
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They'll make it up in volume.

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 17:19 | 5383773 Greenskeeper_Carl
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Time to go long oil. Gartman just opened his moronic mouth on CNBS and said he think it could lose another 15$/barrel. This should mean it will be back above 90 by the end of the year....

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 17:31 | 5383817 TruthInSunshine
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Twitter. Lol.

This is innovation in USSA. Twatter. Lol.

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 17:31 | 5383821 rocker
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He told their producers 10 bucks.  He is only trying to defend his long position.

He's hoping someone will start the Peak Oil Bullshit again. 

Between a World Recession and growth contraction, throw in Ebola and it is over for years. 

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 17:56 | 5383909 Hohum
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Rocker,

Hey bud, sorry to bear bad news, but while peak gross global oil production isn't here yet, positive cash flow from extraction activity is become rarer by the day.

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 17:40 | 5383842 negative rates
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Or a lot of longs lost their shorts!*

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 17:04 | 5383726 Bernoulli
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Yes. Correct. Now it's a buying opportunity.

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 16:23 | 5383581 Bell's 2 hearted
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QWTR

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 16:23 | 5383583 booboo
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What do they make again?

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 16:27 | 5383596 Bell's 2 hearted
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fools of celebrities

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 17:57 | 5383915 Save_America1st
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not just celebs...

I mean who in this entire world didn't absolutely love seeing that sociopath, freak, shithead, loser from New York, Anthony WEEEEENER, totally bury himself in front of the whole world on Twitter and then lie over and over again about it (as sociopaths love to do). 

That was so great to see happen to that piece of shit...there wasn't enough popcorn to enjoy during that shit show.  LOL

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 16:30 | 5383609 KnuckleDragger-X
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They would be more accurate itf they swapped out the first two letters of their name with 'sh'.....

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 17:03 | 5383720 Bernoulli
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Or the "I" with an "A"...

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 16:23 | 5383584 vote_libertaria...
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A new toy arrives every month...

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 16:24 | 5383585 venturen
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couldn't be a price to sales of 35?

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 16:27 | 5383597 Buckaroo Banzai
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Never mind a P/E in the thousands

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 17:06 | 5383728 Pool Shark
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I just know they're gonna make a fortune,... someday,... just like Amazon...

 

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 16:24 | 5383587 SILVERGEDDON
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No. It is because a fucking egocentric blab feed about vapid fuck all is not worth a pinch of coon shit in a wind storrm, bitchez. 

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 16:30 | 5383610 NOZZLE
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Thank you for that authentic frontier wisdom.

 

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 21:17 | 5384481 Sokhmate
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Auto tune it with some dubstep please. I'll pay for a download

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 16:28 | 5383590 FieldingMellish
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PMs also getting slammed after hours. Did gold or silver also release Q3 numbers?

 

BTW, options expiry tomorrow, bitchez.

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 20:35 | 5384374 FieldingMellish
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PMs getting hammered again Silver hitting $17. JPM apparently has 80% of the commercial silver short position. Nice.

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 16:25 | 5383593 Rainman
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# Passing. FAD . Not. Cool . No . Mo

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 16:29 | 5383604 Spastica Rex
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#whothefuckcares

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 16:31 | 5383615 pods
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#Winning

#bangin7gramrocks

#tigerblood

 

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 19:39 | 5384200 Withdrawn Sanction
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Passing Fad indeed.  My 2 teenage daughters give me the eyeroll and the look that says, "Dad you're so not with it," when I mention Twitter.  That's where parents go to spy on their kids, and pervs go ...to do whatever it is pervy people do.

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 16:47 | 5383602 Dr. Engali
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#BTFNSASD ....... Buy the fucking NSA (speaks for itself) spyware dip.

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 16:29 | 5383603 NOZZLE
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When is the last time you heard some moron talking about tweeting something except maybe the stupid pieces of shit who live in the whitehouse.  

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 16:30 | 5383612 mastersnark
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Would it help if goes to 280 characters per tweet?

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 16:42 | 5383645 homiegot
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Double the profits! Brilliant! No business plan needed!

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 16:33 | 5383618 FJ
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Di Di Mau ... MAU ... reminds me of THE DEER HUNTER scene

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 17:32 | 5383822 Buckaroo Banzai
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This market went dinky-dau a long time ago.

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 16:35 | 5383623 Bernoulli
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What I find surprising is that there are people (or machines?) out there thinking 44 USD is the "new" fair valuation of TWTR.

Same last Friday with AMZN. New "market price" now at 290 USD. Why 290? Why not 295 USD? Or 97 USD?

Or last Thursday YELP. Priced "correctly" now at 57.21 USD. P/E of 3,676.74. WTF?

 

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 17:01 | 5383709 ebworthen
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Earnings?  Who needs earnings when you have FED gravy and tech mania?

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 16:36 | 5383628 European American
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Reason "twitter" is tumbling. THe narcissists who are addicted to themselves have long passed their "maximum" dose, well into their "toxic" dose and many now are succumbing to the "lethal" dose.  It's a drug, folks, just like Facebook. A mirror is cheaper and does a better job.

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 17:05 | 5383721 Rainman
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There's never been a better time to be an NSA data collections agent.

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 19:39 | 5384207 Withdrawn Sanction
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So much data...and so little analysis.

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 16:41 | 5383631 himaroid
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But baby, baby, there's fever in the funk house now.
This low down bitchin' got my poor feet a itchin',
You know you know the duece is still wild.
Baby, I can't stay, you got to roll me
And call me the tumblin' dice.

 
Always in a hurry, I never stop to worry,
Don't you see the time flashin' by.
Honey, got no money,
I'm all sixes and sevens and nines.

 
Say now, baby, I'm the rank outsider,
You can be my partner in crime.
But baby, I can't stay,
You got to roll me and call me the tumblin',
Roll me and call me the tumblin' dice.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6U8JlcB_BzA

 

(The tide goes out.)

 

 

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 16:40 | 5383642 yogibear
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Social media is hot until it isn't

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 17:09 | 5383744 Pool Shark
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Oh, really?

You should see my Myspace page...

 

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 17:00 | 5383705 ebworthen
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Netscape, Pets.com, MySpace....

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 17:03 | 5383714 buzzsaw99
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a penny. lulz

#WINNING!

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 17:03 | 5383719 lasvegaspersona
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death letter.... in 140 characters or fewer...

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 18:12 | 5383954 CrazyCatLady
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"You're next."

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 17:09 | 5383745 ebworthen
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Gartman on CNBC calling for a big drop in oil.

Trade accordingly!

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 17:14 | 5383756 Bernoulli
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Oh man. Come on. This guy ruins everything.

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 17:17 | 5383764 himaroid
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I think the fucker may have hit his "stopped clock" guess this time.

I believe that oil will slip slide.

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 17:17 | 5383769 ebworthen
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He's saying it will be $10/barrel eventually because Lockheed Martin will have a Fusion reactor ready within 5 years.

Says crude oil will become like whale oil.

He might have jumped the shark.

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 17:29 | 5383807 himaroid
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Just when I give him credit for a lucky guess, he even fucks that up!

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 17:43 | 5383858 negative rates
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It will go low enough so that a bunch of oil rookies will be out of a job. Too bad for them.

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 19:29 | 5384170 FieldingMellish
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Tyler should have made this front page news. CoT positioning, today's hammer candle in WTIC and now Gartman's whale tale make this one sure fired honey of a trade. Given how bullish everyone is on the USD and bearish on anything commodity related (including PMs), I could see Mr Yellen making a right royal mess of things on Thursday. QE4EVA....

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 21:25 | 5384504 himaroid
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Prolly so.

Watch for whipsaws.

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 17:28 | 5383799 Yancey Ward
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Time for new metrics if the old metrics are giving you down days.

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 18:35 | 5384032 syntaxterror
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So, if this POS lost $3 billion in market cap, that would make it worth about -$2.5 billion, right?

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 18:51 | 5384096 craus
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Useless social media stock, it's the canary in the coal mine for the rest of the stocks.

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 19:41 | 5384208 walküre
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the POMO darlings will all be cratering soon

fundamentals don't matter until they do

QE done, stocks dropping

it was simple to explain why stocks went up and now it's simple to explain why they will retreat.

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 20:55 | 5384428 MagicMoney
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Twitter stock is not about revenues, it's about thinking you got something of value....

Tue, 10/28/2014 - 02:07 | 5385083 Meremortal
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Instead of worrying over Twitter, maybe someone should pay attention giant commodity trader Noble, which just jumped off the high dive for a 10% drop.

Tue, 10/28/2014 - 02:37 | 5385104 natty light
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Not on MyFace much anymore.

Tue, 10/28/2014 - 04:42 | 5385187 Binko
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If Twitter blinked out of existence this instant, there are hundreds of tech companies who could have something similar up and running in about a week. 

In other words it doesn't do anything special or difficult. Therefore it isn't really worth anything in any real sense. 

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