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Disillusioned Millennials Dump Democrats, Blame Obama
In a sad reflection of the hope-and-change expectations, a new national poll shows likely voters in the so-called millennial generation prefer a Republican-led Congress after next week's elections, and young Hispanics are turning sharply against President Obama. As National Journal reports, the poll of 18-to-29-year-olds by Harvard's Institute of Politics (IOP) shows that young Americans are leaving the new Democratic coalition that twice elected Obama as the president's approval rating among Millennial tumbles from 47% in April to just 43% now (and nearly 60% of young Americans disapprove of Obamacare). However, the news is not all good as the future of the American electorate, generally hold Republicans in the lowest regard.
As The National Journal reports,
A new national poll of 18-to-29-year-olds by Harvard's Institute of Politics shows that young Americans are leaving the new Democratic coalition that twice elected Obama. The news is little better for the GOP: These voters, who more than any other voting bloc represent the future of the American electorate, generally hold Republicans in the lowest regard.
The long-view IOP findings suggest that neither party is poised to win the largest generation in U.S. history - a pragmatic, demanding, relatively nonideological electorate raised in an age of terrorism, war, and government dysfunction.
"Millennials could be a critical swing vote," said IOP Director Maggie Williams, projecting the latest results on future elections. "Candidates for office: Ignore millennial voters are your peril." Williams is a Democrat and a former adviser to Hillary Clinton.
In the short term, the news is worse for Democrats than Republicans.
- Millennials who told the IOP they will "definitely be voting" Tuesday favored Republicans over Democrats, 51 percent to 47 percent. That is a reversal of September 2010 results, when the IOP found Democrats favored over Republicans among young likely voters, 55 percent to 43 percent.
- Obama's job-approval rating among millennials decreased from 47 percent in April to 43 percent, his second-lowest rating in the IOP surveys. Among young Americans most likely to vote, his job-approval rating is just 42 percent.
- Obama's job approval is below 40 percent on several issues, including the economy, health care, the federal budget deficit, and foreign policy. Nearly six of 10 young Americans disapprove of Obamacare.
- Among the one in four millennial voters who say they definitely will vote Tuesday, Republican-leaning constituencies are significantly more enthusiastic about the election than Democrats.
- Just 49 percent of young Hispanics approve of Obama's job performance, the lowest since IOP began tracking in 2009. That's a big drop from six months ago, when his rating among young Hispanics was 60 percent, and five years ago, when 81 percent of Hispanic millennials approved of Obama's performance. Only 17 percent of Hispanic youth plan to vote Tuesday, far smaller than the non-Hispanic percentages and likely a reflection of frustration over stalled immigration reform.
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With a week to go... things do not look good for The Democrats... time to get long 'veto' pens.
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And if you're wondering why the disillusionment... here's one big reason (via The Washington Times)
The Affordable Care Act was supposed to make health care more affordable, but a study of insurance policies before and after Obamacare shows that average premiums have skyrocketed, for some groups by as much as 78 percent.
Average insurance premiums in the sought-after 23-year-old demographic rose most dramatically, with men in that age group seeing an average 78.2 percent price increase before factoring in government subsidies, and women having their premiums rise 44.9 percent, according to a report by HealthPocket scheduled for release Wednesday.
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Blowback's a bitch!
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there is no republican...
there is no democrat...
only a wealthy elite dedicated to the preservation of their privilege, wealth and power...
DEATH TO THE MONEYCHANGERS...
step away from the false left right dichotomy...for fucks sake.
AMEN!! Brotha Sousa
Too bad Democrat and Republican are the same party.
Why would men's insurance rates be up more than women's? I mean its not like men are subsidizing free contraceptives for women.
Oh wait....
The problem is, there is a definite "red" and a definite "blue", then, too many other choices to steal a little bit of red and blue votes.
How do we communicate together to ALL vote for the same "middle guy" ?
Hey Millennials - you don't buy into the false left-right paradigm & illusion, do you?
I hope not. No matter how the rhetoric on social issues differs between the Republicans & Democrats, I can prove to you, without an iota of doubt, that both"different" parties are owned by the same exact people and institutions, and there is no real choice, no real democracy and no substantive difference.
It's the Matrix. Unplug yourselves and actively work to take the system down, because it can't be saved.
very true. Yet another generation getting fooled. "the democrats are fucking everything up, ill vote republican this time, they will fix everything. What a crock of shit. there was a republican president, and both houses were controlled by republicans for a couple years. what did we get? name one good accomplishment we had last time this happened? Did we get lower taxes, less govt, less war, less welfare, less govt in our lives, or did we get MOAR of all those things, less freedom, more govt debt, and more bullshit? this time is NEVER different
3rd Party!
No party.
Toga party.
A new party, a third party, a WILD PARTY!
Instead of voting, go to the gun shop and buy something.
Sends a good fucking message IMO.
Better yet, finish an 80% lower for yourself.
lemon party
Man will never be free until the last government lover is strangled to death with the entrails of the second to the last government lover.
But who will build the roads if there are no thieves in the government?
And put your iPhone 6 away, same price will allow you a great concealed baby, it will serve you better.
http://concealednation.org/2014/07/the-10-best-concealed-carry-guns/3/
True. Gingrich dragged Clinton along in the 94/95 timeframe into balancing the budget and producing a surplus (ie, still somewhat gimmicky due to the blurring of the distinction between off- and on-budget, but still impressive). Then, in 1998, the Republican Congress passed a budget that added to the deficit.
Along comes free spender Bush who represented the Progressive wing of the Republican Party. To be mercifully short, shit happened. If you compare Bush vs Obama, Bush is Obama lite, or Obama is Bush heavy. "Lite" is a relative term since Bush racked up over 4 trillion in debt.
Since the Tea Party revolution in 2010, the Republican establishment has spent more time, energy, and money trying to destroy the Tea Party than even slightly inhibiting the Democrats.
There are many good Tea Party candidates among the new crop of Republicans. Maybe there is some hope.
Newt and Bill were both CFR members. Newt and Romney were backed by Shedlon Adelson (zio casino) while Obola had many other AIPAC supporters.
Why did he back Newt and Romney? Block Rick Santorum because Rick was destroying Romney in the midwest with no money. Santorum was getting the Christian vote.
Adelson said Santorum was "a little too Christian" for me. They don't like Christians in power like Putin.
Romney rigged a few Midwest states then pressured Santorum out. Santorum would carry the entire state and Roney would win the major city with 120% turnout. Obola then did the same thing to Romney.
They rig primaries and elections. Nothing left to chance.
They acquire power thru elections. And we're going to take away their power thru what non-election mechanism?
Yep, Fooled once again. Can we start like a ZH political party that stands for everything good in this World?
Nope. Bitchez don't do anything, they only bitch, that's why they called bitchez.
I am a millennial. I cannot speak for my entire generation, but I can speak for my direct peers. We know society is ready to explode. We know that what comes from the mouth of.gov is a lie. We know that anyone with a government pension will not act in the best interests of the country as a whole. We know that the police serve and protect their interests, and their interests only. We know that since birth ('91 in my case), we have been filled with propaganda of "American Exceptionalism". We know that if the status quo is maintained, in our life time we will see the Earth destroyed beyond the point of no return. We know that the "enemies", that this country face are domestically created. We know that if you want a vibrant, flourishing economy, C.E.O's cannot bring home 2500% the wage of their companies avegage employee. If you want change, look to my generation for it, and abandon your oppressive systems of corporate and social hierarchy that your generations have created, as those are the ones that have brought us to this point. In essence, embrace us and vote for us in governmental and corporate positions, or start taste testing your favorite flavor of cat food because that is all you'll be able to afford to eat.
As a father of 3 children in their 20's I and most of my peers feel the same way and would support and follow a better form of govt. We need you guys to create and start something new and better and most of us parents > 50 will support and follow. Go and start a new begining.
You sound like myself and many of my millenial friends.
Not all, mind you, but many.
Our tipping point is approaching, as our numbers will soon be of significance as we come of age - many Millenials have seen the writing on the wall for most of their lives and are chomping at the bit for an overhaul.
Full Faith and: The elite love people like you. To them, you are a useful idiot.
We know that what comes from the mouth of.gov is a lie.
Some questions: Do you believe in big gov't? If you don't, where in your fantasy utopian juvenile vision are your criticisms of big gov't? If you believe in big gov't, how in the fuck does making gov't bigger cause gov't to lie less? Does your vision even include the downsides of big gov't?
We know that since birth ('91 in my case), we have been filled with propaganda of "American Exceptionalism".
No, your head has been filled with propaganda that America isn't exceptional. Said propaganda blares forth from all the institutions that Progressives control: The culture, media, colleges and universities, etc. It appears that propaganda worked in your case. It usually does with useful idiots.
If you want change, look to my generation for it, and abandon your oppressive systems of corporate and social hierarchy that your generations have created, as those are the ones that have brought us to this point.
God. What an idiot. "Oppressive systems", my ass. What brought us to this point is actualized Progressivism, the belief that a larger, more powerful gov't is the solution to all problems. Back in the day when the gov't was smaller, we had a healthy, vibrant country and economy, turned to shit due to Marxism/Lesbianist redistributionism espoused by Progessives. Progressivism is tearing this country apart.
Not to worry, however, that your are brainless and clueless, and have no idea how to fix the putative shit you say we're in. No 23-year-old knows anything. When you acquire experience, knowledge, and wisdom, and understand the pernicious effect of the Progressive propaganda that turned you into a useful idiot, you'll realize your error and sheepishly (ie, as in a "sheepish" grin, and not as the total sheep you are now) admit that, yes, you were a useful idiot.
Todays Hispanic-Americans are firmly plugged into the matrix and they like it that way. Easily swayed and led by conventional info-tainment and issues du jour. You can prove it, but they won't believe it.
Why do husbands usually die before their wives. BECAUSE THEY WANT TO.
That's nice, but why do young men not want to marry a woman? I have no idea, but then I look at my parents, It may have something to do with the culture we live in.
Because it's a shit deal all around for the guy.
"My father said, 'You must never try to make all the money that's in a deal. Let the other fellow make some money too, because if you have a reputation for always making all the money, you won't have many deals'." - J. Paul Getty
[R]ecession or [D]epression.
Ummmmm (sweating profusely), none of the above?
It always seems too late to wake up to the view that the correct answer is "none of the above" since we are forced to operate inside of terminally screwed up, sick and insane systems, where the only "choices" are bad versus worse.
There is always a choice. There is absolutely nothing stopping a bunch of people setting up shop in a national park in Montana, declairing a soveriegn nation, and sending notice that the borders will be defended with leathal force from any foriegn agent bearing arms.
Now wouldn't that be a glorious day to be alive? Even if droned into bits, just imagine the fear of those in power from the attempt. How many people would answer that call? How many other places would follow suit? How much dry powder would the fed have to conjour to stop the markets crashing?
Somewhere a butterfly is flapping it's wings.
-->[R]eccesion
-->[D]epression
Good poll, just needed fixing. Little difference as far as debt and spending.
[R]ifle
[D]sizzors
Doesn't quite work - but you get the picture.
The Democrats and Republicans should join together and form a single party.
The Self-enslavement Party.
this is kind of like the harlem globetrotters and washington generals. It's a show.
generally excellent example except they both play "government" like the generals "played" basketball.
lower tier professional wrestling?
"Too bad Democrat and Republican are the same party."
I take extreme offense to your statement! Clearly there is a two major differences between them: The RNC uses Red logos and the DNC uses Blue logos. The RNC mascot is an elephant and the DNC is a JackAss. How could you possible not see these huge differences! /sarc
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kang_and_Kodos (Simpsons Parody on the Two party system)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAT_BuJAI70 [clip of Kodos and Kang]
Too bad democracy and a representative government are both FAILURES.
Combining the choices of a bunch of morons in electing a sociopath to represent us is a laughable concept.
Why can't individuals just vote on issues and do away with a big central "representative" government that can be lobbied for favors? Or move the capital every five years causing the lobbies to have to relocate? Omaha sounds nice. Same for Iowa City.
Without electoral reform and away from a two party system, we go nowhere and continue in the land of delusion and deceit.
This trend was clear back in 2012 but nobody believed it but the "folks" ... not a single pol or political operative.
The millineals and main line democrats were totally dismayed with Obie & Cie. They felt betrayed. Period.
And they were very interested in Ron Paul.
He coulda captured a massive slice of the "middle" for the R's but the R'S would have had to give up the far right neo-con wing. Which would have still voted R. RP coulda won.
But oh, fucking no.
Now, RP is gone and Romney, Jeb, et al, do not have a chance as they'll spout the olde Neo-Con claptrap and nope, are not electable.
All Hail Hillary
Perhaps Rand Paul is Ron in disguise? Clinton did it, Obama did it. I guess we'll have to see.
Regardless, Republicans will find a way to screw this up (purposefully?), assuming these polls are even accurate.
Ron never gave an inch on his convictions, and thats why the republican establishment would rather have obama in office than RP, so romney was on the ticket, even though it was pretty obvious he was gonna lose, and RP was the only one who polled ahead of obama. Rand isnt his father, as he points out pretty regularly. He has spent far too much time cozying up to the establishment to get my vote, if i even bother to vote
Ron Paul - the greatest president America NEVER had.
I see your -2 votes... who would have guessed that Romney and Santorum had ZH accounts.
Me.
"The National parties and their presidential candidates, with the Eastern
Establishment assiduously fostering the process behind the scenes, moved closer together and nearly met in the center with almost identical candidates and platforms, although the process was concealed as much as possible, by the revival of obsolescent or meaningless war cries and slogans (often going back to the Civil War). … The argument that the two parties should represent opposed ideals and policies, one, perhaps, of the Right and the other of the Left, is a foolish idea acceptable only to the doctrinaire and academic thinkers. Instead, the two parties should be almost identical, so that the
American people can “throw the rascals out” at any election without leading to any profound or extreme shifts in policy. … Either party in office becomes in time corrupt, tired, unenterprising, and vigorless. Then it should be possible to replace it, every four years if necessary, by the other party, which will be none of these things but will still pursue, with new vigor, approximately the same basic policies."
Carrol Quigley
Tippecanoe and Tyler Too!
Are any Whigs in the race?
All hail Hypnotoad! :>D
Time for the incompetent corrupt liar in chief to hit the golf course.
Ron Paul
Nothing but a dog and pony show.
Precisely Kaiser Sousa, but watch the generational slish-slosh, voting Left, voting Right, and wondering why nothing changes.
+ 100
There are two profoundly different human social survival paradigms:
One is based on tribalism (Democrats); the other is based on wealth production or "capitalism" (Republicans).
Over human history, tribalists have been the majority of humanity, by far.
"Democracy" favors political control by the tribalists. Capitalists don't have a good story for why they don't share their wealth with tribalists, so they just try to claim they would be nicer and more efficient tribalists.
If you prefer capitalism over tribalism, don't expect a Republican to explain to you why it's better. You'll have to figure it out for yourself.
Well, then, don't expect Millennials to figure it out. If you MRI'ed any Millennials, you'd find that somewhere between 90-95% of their brains being dedicated to the finger-phone interface. That's why Millennials love digital sex.
Capitalism is the best economic system ever invented, btw.
Free Market Capitalism, yes.
Crony Capitalism, no.
. . . and don't expect Republicans to be loved by Millennials.
Capitalism doesn't need qualifiers such as "free" and "market." That's just repetitive and redundant.
In the real world, it does.
George Soros is a "capitalist". Nelson Rockefeller was a "capitalist".
All "capitalisms" are not the same.
State capitalism? Monopoly capitalism?
No, thank you.
Good Lord, who told you that? They are statists. Just because someone might use the word capitalism INCORRECTLY does not mean that I am obligated to change its definition.
Stop trying to re-define things. There is no such thing as state capitalism or monopoly capitalism. That's like saying something is black and white at the same time.
Except someone has to run the tribe, and you have to give up your wishes, freedoms, etc. to be a member of said tribe.
Say hello to Mao, Hitler and Stalin for me. When you go to hell.
Egg-zactly!
You got it!
And, FYI. I'm not going to hell.
thebigunit
I'm conservative and fucking hate the Republican leadership in Washington, too. If Millennials don't love Republicans, then kudos to them.
Crony Capitalism, no.
From Capitalism Magazine: "Crony Capitalism” is Fascism. Thus, Mussolini, Hitler, Bush, and Obama have something in common.
Crony Capitalism is a form of "economic tribalism" that includes both Democrat and Republican members. The Cronies like big fat (exclusive) government contracts, and they like government regulators to make rules that will take out thier competition.
Crony Republicans are not aginst "big government", they're just against the goverment giving all the business to Crony Democrats.
But feeling good about millenials not loving Republicans doesn't help anything.
What is YOUR message to millenials?
"Vote for ____ because they will __________." Fill in the blanks.
What is YOUR message to millenials?
Damned good question; no simple answer.
The negative-based answer is: Don't elect Progressive Democrats. Doing so is equivalent to the abandonment of hope.
The positive only answer is: Vote for Scott Walker and other small-gov't Republicans because they're our only hope to toss out the Fascists.
If Republicans don't win the Senate on Tuesday, Obama will be more likely to institutionalize his Progressive coup d'etat. It makes no difference what kind of Republicans we elect in the short term, even crony/Fascist Republicans. After all, politics is pragmatism, and the excision of all receptors in the nose.
Then, hope and pray Congress does what it needs to do to stage-manage Washington politics to help elect a Republican president in 2016. If Democrats win the White House in 2016, we are shit. Even Hillary will permanently institutionalize the vast, unelected, unionized, autocratic Progressive bureaucracy as our overlords.
Let's hope we have the upcoming crash at the right time. If it happens at the right time, we stand a good chance to really dig the rot out. Let's hope, too, that Tuesday election sends a strong message for the Republicans to build upon.
A good, strong conservative leader could change everything. Reagan did. It's amazing how much he changed shit. In the current crop, there are no good, strong conservative leaders, but hope springs eternal. Some politician should be able to figure out that the road to the Presidency is shorter, straighter, and better paved for a principled conservative than for any other ilk of politician.
Amazingly shitty, right? I sure think so, but we're picometer close to losing it all.
VOTE FOR REPUBLICANS BECAUSE THEY WON'T FUCK THINGS UP AS BAD AS THE LEFT.
There. That's the message. You want perfect? You're not going to find it in the real world. Support conservative values.
Get your head out of your ass with this crony capitalism BS. Focus on your own shit.
If KONY 2012 didn't teach you Millennials are a flock of livestock ready to be ideologically herded, sheared, and skinned, I don't know what else to tell you.
LOL! F the Millenials. They voted for it and their future is screwed...along with all Americans. Time for a hard reboot.
You helped destroy Amerika for good millenials with you boy Obaola. F You.
The Republicans are no better in any real Constitutional conservative or liberatarian is beaten through election fraud. When dual-citizen Eric Cantor was beaten in a shocker - the Dems and NeoCons had to make sure no conservatives or libertarians could win.
They did the same thing to Ron Paul.
The problem with controlers is that eventually the people catch on, that is why they where run out of europe. Everybody caught on and even the leaders and there wasn't a place they could lay their hat. It will happen in the US also. When everyone is financially destroyed and the people they are told to blame are just as destroyed they will finally see that it was those people who where moneychangers that where feeding off of the US and then left us to die.
Its Coke Vs Pepsi. Behind it all is Washington DC -whose per capita income has gone from the lowest in the USA 15 years ago -to the HIGHEST today. Courtesy of We the People.
Congress/Senate don't matter. You may think you voted a choice-but when they arrive in DC -they will be greeted by the masters and taken out to dinner for a lesson in how the city works.
What does matter are the statehouses and governors. Only THEY have the power to reign in their Congressional representation. They can decide whether they will continue to abide by the 17th amendment-the direct election to the Federal Senate vs the state legislature election to the Federal Senate.
Fat chance, since that false dichotomy is responsible for having educated the majority of 'Murika
I really don't like such claims of a "false left right dicohtomy"; the difference (and the consequences) of left-wing and right-wing politics are very real, and are particularly felt by the disenfranchised and the underprivileged.
At the same time, the evidence does appear to corroborate yours claims, or at least partially so. A fact which I dislike even more.
Egg-zactly.
Don't blame the Republicans for not being different; blame them for not EXPLAINING the difference.
Ronald Reagan could explain it. George W. Bush couldn't and didn't.
The left engaged in major "brand destruction" of the Republican brand during the Bush years. Bush just ignored all the trashing and assumed that "people would figure it out". It didn't work out.
Re-establishing a tarnished brand is a very difficult proposition. The Republicans will likely have to undertake some kind of "re-branding."
Conservative Republicans, Liberty Republicans, Tea Party Republicans, not-those-old-crony-capitalist Republicans. Whatever.
+1. I can't up arrow because you used italics. But you are correct. The Bush admin could have fought back on MANY things (not everything), and they just didn't.
Well, that's over. The Republicans don't seem to want to win the White House anymore. I'm looking forward to Tuesday to see what happens.
I'm a conservative. Not a Republican. Not a Democrat. A conservative.
Will the Millennials be the first generation to reject the Red Team/Blue Team shit, or just immerse themselves in NarcissistBook? I'm thinking the latter, but hoping for the former.
The former, why? because IT'S a F*KIN TRAP. I do say.
As ZH has pointed out, innumerable times, both parties represent statist ideologies. One represents the welfare state and the other, the warfare state! No thanks, none of the above for me!
Yes, the democrats have never taken us to war.
Never realized that FDR and Lyndon B "Those niggers will be voting democrat for the next 100 years" Johnson were republicans.
LBJ was the first zio President. Franklin D. Rosenfeltd may have been as well.
Don't forget about Woodrow Wilson (WW I) or Harry Truman (Korean War).
Warfare IS welfare. CONgress itself (all of gummint for that matter) is nothing more than a welfare program. Face it, without all those guns behind them, where else would The 0'Bamabot, Rahm, Ben Dover and Joey Biden find actual employment? They have no skills based in reality.
One is mommy and the other is daddy.
The millennials are dumping Obama because they're lining up to support Elizabeth Warren. So it'll be same shit, different politican come 2016.
Sadly they're still plugged into the Matrix. But then again, so too are the vast majority of Americans. The only thing I can take solace in is that there seems to be a growing minority of those who are seeing the system for what it truly is.
Being a millennial (didn't vote for any candidate the last two elections) I know many more people who say 'fuck the system' than 'let's participate in it', and this is on a college campus. We millennials feel betrayed on multiple fronts: I feel betrayed for buying into the GWOT and serving the hegemony's armed forces, others feel betrayed by Obama and his empty promises. All of us were duped, and the more TPTB bullshit about the job and financial markets the more it becomes apparent that they live in a different world than we do.
We are pissed, but the bad thing is many millennials for the most part have to fight a cultural war based on the glorification of consumer whoring and reattach the severed community links that was done by 'smart' phones. I have done this already and I am bringing other people out of it through teaching others how to grow food for themselves so that the coming revolution can be sustained.
We need to fight on the food front and ensure we have the means to grow healthy and nutritious food to sustain nonviolent struggle for the long run, because as long as we depend on corporations and the government (same thing amirite?) to feed us, we'll never win.
All of our food is bought at grocery stores and produced by big ag farmers. That money then goes to fund the people we hate. I'm glad someone else out there has had the intelligence to recognize that food is where it all comes to a head.
It's also the main component to building a proxy system; the bridge from a tyrannical government to something better. People look to governments for the guarantee of safety. If we can provide the food and water in a sustainable way (something that the current system is unable to do) we'll have a chance because Big Ag is heavily dependent on fossil fuels; once access to that resource becomes more difficult we'll see the price of food skyrocket. THAT is when we'll have a fighting chance.
The end of the USD as the global reserve currency will open up many opportunities.
or to say it another way, nothing changes until some significant portion of americans see their kids go to bed hungry.
i sincerely hope you are many.
Unfortunately in our history a crisis is either delayed or addressed just as it happens.
Part of me is just hoping that this is a terrible nightmare, but I tend to err less often by being pessimistic, so I'm doing what I can to help others help themselves -- I can't do much else but at least some I encounter are listening.
Yeah, I know what you're getting at. I'm a millennial too. I just hate seeing my friends still in delusion thinking that a new-but-still-corrupt politican is going to change things.
I was VERY close to voting for Obama in 2008 until he supported and voted for TARP. That got me unplugged from the Matrix once I realized just how fucked the country was when even "hope and change" was voting for "business as usual". I voted for Gary Johnson in 2012 since he really matched up with a lot of my political views.
My daughter is a brilliant millenial, but was stumped when I asked her a while back why Obama was so hot to go to war with Syria. She was a Jon Huntsman fan.
+1 I have a daughter too but she is only nine. What is that generation going to be called? I also have a three year old son going on four. They both speak Russian and English well. They love candy.
Now we have to have Halloween. I did not get to have Halloween as a kid but neither did Mr's Russia. Mr's Russia is going to make sure they get what we didn't because she made custom costumes for the children on the sewing machine I bought her.
Despite a $30 cash dispursement from me, Mr's Russia only bought ONE bag of candy, for the price of slightly less then $7. I had to ask about this because I like my candy too.
Mrs. Russia said that we will wait until it goes on sale AFTER Halloween and we will get a better deal. I could not argue with that point. Well, she is correct and she cracks me up. I doubt I will get any candy. Maybe a tube of toothpaste or something.
For me it was when I understood our currency: Violence, people becoming commodities through debt, and the USD deriving its value through faith that it is always worth something. Once I removed this keystone the whole structure collapsed lol.
Once people understand that all politics has devolved to "Let's pretend we're still solvent, somehow" then no other talking points matter.
Once people understand the history of fiat currency collapse, then the only thing that matters is how you will live when the latest iteration does as all others have done before.
Most will not understand, and they will be devoured. Same as it always was. Forever and ever, amen.
"Nonviolent struggle"? Just give up now because you're insane. Violence is the answer which is why the enemy employs it.
LOL America uses quite a bit of violence; now look where it's headed.
Bolshevik!
Google "Hippie communes" to see how successful your venture might be.
The failure of any significant movement deemed a threat to TPTB is primarily attributed to the intelligence community infiltrating them. I won't be mirroring the hippie commune, but I will work on the premise that people need food without the strings of a monolithic government attached.
There are also some successful intentional communities that have been going on for decades; I'd recommend using Google, but Startpage is a much better search engine.
Google Dave McGowan Laurel Canyon and you will see the whole hippie movement had two purposes:
1. Derail the anti-war movement.
2. Push the drug culture because their was a lot of product coming in from LBJ's Vietnam War that had to be consumed and marketed. Somebody had to pay for those drugs from IndoChina. American boys were dying for it just like they are in Afghanistan.
Somebody had to pay for those drugs from IndoChina, in order to fund the imperial aspirations, and shut the French up (READ: postpone the demise of Bretton Woods)
FIFY
Dr. Destructo. We've always been a country where small groups of way out individuals with a common vision can coalesce and form their own communities; eg, Pilgrims, Amish, Mormons, clitoris enviers. They all remain small. None every came close to being even close to mainstream ... except for Hippies. I was there. I was a Hippie, getting out of the Army in 1969. The Hippies that formed communies (I wasn't, just had friends who did) had will, energy, and overflowing idealism. It was fucking amazing how innocent we were. Then came Altamont.
Freddie. No. I was there. Sure, sex, drugs, and rock'n'roll played a large part in our lifestyle, but it was more. Your 2 points are like describing Obama as an organic being. It still turned to shit, but when movements embody pureness as one of the main aspects in their ethos, shit is inevitable.
And yet the Amish remain successful.
Yup! You get it. May your enlightenment propogate.
Comment of the week.
Rand Paul 2016!
hes already sold his soul to the zionazi's
Maybe he's just let them borrow it? Seriously, do you expect him to call out the zionazis? Remember he'll disappear without trace unless he keeps these guys - at a minimum - non-hostile.
When you see them all at the Wailing Wall then you know. You never saw Ron Paul there.
I dont even think Ron supports Rand
Fuck the RedTeam BlueTeam shitheads.
Yet, they voted for him twice. Ok, youthful innocence and such but 'fool me once shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me'.
"There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again."
Very significant quote. He couldn't say "shame on me" even in quoting a proverb. No chance of him ever taking responsibility for his actions.
fake L vs fake R. what a JOKE. repukes = demogogues. TRAITORS all of em.
if any knucklehead on this site actually is pathetic enough to think any managed election will make any difference, then your beyond help.
there is only one power. and that power... BiS and it's minions.. aren't about to let the useless resource consumers actually make any changes to their multi generational plans.
Illusion of participation is all this is. a bad one at that.
P < P + I
It may not make a difference but who really thinks non participation will accomplish anything except the illusion of avoiding any responsibility? Politicians are perfectly have with the already dismal voter turnout. If we all stayed home they could put more of their campaign funds straight into their own pockets.
I like the sociological power equation.
The power of A over B is directly related to the dependence of B to A.
Free yourselves.
Hey, geekz-rule. You've reached step #1 on the road to enlightenment. Yea, they both suck, but together they hold the reigns of power. The only way to loosen their grip on the reigns of power is not to wallow in your nihilistic cynicism, but to vote people in who will loosen the fucks (aka, elites) hold on power.
Sorry, it is not possible to diminish their power by doing anything but diminishing their power the way they acquired that power: Via the ballot box. That's step #2 on the road to enlightenment.
In other words: Fix a broken system by using the broken system?
It sucks, but they play the game by their rules. We have to defeat them at their game using their rules.
The only way for us to WIN is NOT TO PLAY!
If we don't play, they win.
thre's actually 4 boxes, you figure it out. but like the kid says, the ballot box is broken. i'll add jury box to the list of broken boxes. soap box is wobbly, the other one, well, they don't like that one, but it still works.
P < P + I
Not if I = 0
Their Great Black Champion has fallen off his donkey. They were trained in their schools and by their media to believe they're special and will be saved by some super hero. They'll just seek a new champion to trust.
Hope and trust are the very dull tools they were trained to use.
the Millennials are fucked. and because of their dumb asses, we're all fucked as well. You'll recall it was these fucktards drooling over the Bamster on college campuses hollering Yes We Can. Obama was COOL. He was Hip. He smoked dope and inhaled. I think the damage done by Obama and his enablers in Congress is ireversible. My grandkids will be living hell on earth thanks to these Millennial dickweeds voting with their heads up their ass, a beer bong and a joint in each hand....and all those HoBag Coeds and their Sandra FlUCK worshipping. Fuck them and the horse they rode in on. They'll be voting Dem again, you can count on it....because now they see their only way to get out of Mom and Dad's basement is with some sort of govt program to pay off their student loans. We're talking Kardashian and Dancing with the Star fans here.....and Hollyweird Worshippers. They're getting exactly what they voted for the past two elections. Dumb Asses!
And one more thing. Fuck John McCain and Mitt Romney. Softball playing Motherfuckers all. Oh....and fuck that little VP nomineed Paul Ryan too. what a couple of assclowns. If you're going to beat a Demcrat, you'd better bring your A-Game.....and some little twit that looks like that little fucker on the Adams Family....well....just a bad choice.
Yes, we are all fucked because of a bunch of twenty-somethings. Give me a break.
Let me guess. You voted for Obama. Twice. I rest my case.
Suck a dick, you're projecting. Who raised those fucks?
and one more thing.....THERE ARE 43% OF MILLENIALS THAT APPROVE OF THIS POS. LMAO TEOTWAWKI is Here. Better prepare yourself for impact...we're going over the Buffalo Jump.
Wait, I thought we were fucked because of the baby boomers. Shit, I just can't keep things straight anymore.
The ruling oligarchs are happy people think they have a choice. Obama is a major league shithead lying fuckface. So will the next guy be
The ruling oligarchs are happy people think they have a choice. Obama is a major league shithead lying fuckface. So will the next guy be
+ 100
THe stupid fucking sheep go baaa into the north pasture and then the south pasture year after year.
Time to say fuck you. Anyone who violates the constitution gets hung.
Hate to break it to you, but we've been violating our 'precious' constitution since time immemorial. That piece of paper isn't worth shit so long as THE PEOPLE are unwilling to hold the government accountable.
My guillotine and I will hold them accountable.
In the mean time, I need to wake and rile up some sheeple, as I'm going to need guillotine operators when the time comes.
An American, not US subject.
I have yet to meet a millennial who has a modicum of understanding of how far left the democratic party has gone under Obama.
the ship is sinking,
put on the life jacket
and find your way to the life boats
the ussa obola is going down
The Republicans and Democrats are like two waiters at the same restaurant. The fare is the same, the only difference is how they serve it up.
They are all the same. Bunch of lying liars who are out to rape us.
They just won't vote.
They'll fucking vote. Believe me.
No they won't, you're an idiot. You clearly have no grasp of reality.
DB1 is not an idiot. DB1 has it exactly right.
I've always wanted to see an election where no one showed up to vote - what would they say then?
CIA-Obama's mandate to reinvigorate the right-wing, evangelical Christian base of the neo-cons is right on track.
Going to be one scandal after another over the next two years around these categories:
1) Morality, especially his homosexuality.
2) Law and order, especially his, and their, deemed lack of support for the gun and badge thugs.
3) His, their, policies on "Illegals" as the cause of all that ails the economy.
4) More seemingly incompetent responses to crises, real or false-flag.
5) More of the supposed anti-Israel charade, while he, and they, are kowtowing to Israel at every turn.
6) More gutting of the military (Which is actually a good thing, but will be spun as a bad thing.)
7) More push back from the Pentagon against the CIA and their stooge in the Oval Office. (See Phoenix program reveal, Pentagon papers, Church committee, etc, for background.)
Enjoy the show.
An American, not US subject.
And look for a mostly white, evangelical Christian dominated ReadyReserve to form. It is provisioned for in Obamacare.
hopeless fucking clusterfuck of no choices in a non democratic failed republic.
"hopeless fucking clusterfuck of no choices in a non democratic failed republic."
But you, we Americans, do have a choice:
The most powerful weapon the American people have is Rejection.
The system of fraud and theft that has been built up upon the backs of the American people is dependent upon our backs. Withdraw our backs, and the whole scheme collapses. This is our greatest weapon.
Quit Paying--Put it into food, and precious metals, etc.They stole what ever "debt money" they loaned you in the first place (fractional reserve banking) and soon you won't be able to pay them anyways.
Quit Obeying--If they are in violation of the Constitution then they are not legitimate anyways.
Quit Playing--Quit being a tool for them to use.
The Four Rs
Rejection: Quit paying, quit obeying , quit playing
Revolution: It is inevitable, so prepare, as they are.
Retribution: The guilty must answer for their crimes against the American people and the Constitution.
Restoration: Restore the American people, country and Constitutional republic.
An American, not US subject.
Now here this! Now here this! Democrats will keep the Senate and Republicans will retain the House. there'll be some swaps but, all in, nothing changes because over 50% of American households receive government transfer payments (of some kind). That and as we have learned time and time again, never understimate the stupidity of the majority voting.
Real change calls for real pain - and that my friends - aint never gonna happen. Yellen's queing up QE4
You heard it here first - (well...maybe not).