Putin To Western Elites: Play-Time Is Over

Tyler Durden's picture

Via Club Orlov blog,

Most people in the English-speaking parts of the world missed Putin's speech at the Valdai conference in Sochi a few days ago, and, chances are, those of you who have heard of the speech didn't get a chance to read it, and missed its importance. Western media did their best to ignore it or to twist its meaning. Regardless of what you think or don't think of Putin (like the sun and the moon, he does not exist for you to cultivate an opinion) this is probably the most important political speech since Churchill's “Iron Curtain” speech of March 5, 1946.

In this speech, Putin abruptly changed the rules of the game. Previously, the game of international politics was played as follows: politicians made public pronouncements, for the sake of maintaining a pleasant fiction of national sovereignty, but they were strictly for show and had nothing to do with the substance of international politics; in the meantime, they engaged in secret back-room negotiations, in which the actual deals were hammered out. Previously, Putin tried to play this game, expecting only that Russia be treated as an equal. But these hopes have been dashed, and at this conference he declared the game to be over, explicitly violating Western taboo by speaking directly to the people over the heads of elite clans and political leaders.

The Russian blogger chipstone summarized the most salient points from Putin speech as follows:

1. Russia will no longer play games and engage in back-room negotiations over trifles. But Russia is prepared for serious conversations and agreements, if these are conducive to collective security, are based on fairness and take into account the interests of each side.


2. All systems of global collective security now lie in ruins. There are no longer any international security guarantees at all. And the entity that destroyed them has a name: The United States of America.


3. The builders of the New World Order have failed, having built a sand castle. Whether or not a new world order of any sort is to be built is not just Russia's decision, but it is a decision that will not be made without Russia.


4. Russia favors a conservative approach to introducing innovations into the social order, but is not opposed to investigating and discussing such innovations, to see if introducing any of them might be justified.


5. Russia has no intention of going fishing in the murky waters created by America's ever-expanding “empire of chaos,” and has no interest in building a new empire of her own (this is unnecessary; Russia's challenges lie in developing her already vast territory). Neither is Russia willing to act as a savior of the world, as she had in the past.


6. Russia will not attempt to reformat the world in her own image, but neither will she allow anyone to reformat her in their image. Russia will not close herself off from the world, but anyone who tries to close her off from the world will be sure to reap a whirlwind.


7. Russia does not wish for the chaos to spread, does not want war, and has no intention of starting one. However, today Russia sees the outbreak of global war as almost inevitable, is prepared for it, and is continuing to prepare for it. Russia does not war—nor does she fear it.


8. Russia does not intend to take an active role in thwarting those who are still attempting to construct their New World Order - until their efforts start to impinge on Russia's key interests. Russia would prefer to stand by and watch them give themselves as many lumps as their poor heads can take. But those who manage to drag Russia into this process, through disregard for her interests, will be taught the true meaning of pain.


9. In her external, and, even more so, internal politics, Russia's power will rely not on the elites and their back-room dealing, but on the will of the people.

To these nine points I would like to add a tenth:

10. There is still a chance to construct a new world order that will avoid a world war. This new world order must of necessity include the United States—but can only do so on the same terms as everyone else: subject to international law and international agreements; refraining from all unilateral action; in full respect of the sovereignty of other nations.

To sum it all up:

play-time is over. Children, put away your toys. Now is the time for the adults to make decisions. Russia is ready for this; is the world?

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Full text of Vladimir Putin’s speech and a question and answer session at the final plenary meeting of the Valdai International Discussion Club’s XI session in Sochi on 24 October 2014 can be found here

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Rakshas's picture






...... CHECK Obola......


stant's picture

A regional power vs a marginal power

nope-1004's picture

Sounds like a speech by Thomas Jefferson.  Too bad Amerika is a fascist state in ruins.

Now lets vote Hitlery to save us and create jerbs!


El Oregonian's picture

Hillaryously Ignorant fool!!!

Publicus's picture

Death to the New World Order!

knukles's picture

Oh, this is old news.  They covered it in a quick snippet on Good Morning America during the cooking session when they talked about how Russian caviar can be substituted with New York City sewer scum-balls on the cold coddled eggs.

Spastica Rex's picture

Cold coddled eggs don't even sound appetizing by themselves.

economics9698's picture

Will he kill tribe members?  Well then...

boogerbently's picture

I'm sorry, but I LOVE that guy.

I'm jealous that we don't have a leader "with a pair".

Transformer's picture

Wanna read the whole speech in its entirety?  Here it is from Paul Craig Roberts, probably a pretty good translation.


markmotive's picture

Putin is in charge and he's putting Russia back on the map...that is if oil prices hold together.


Amerikan Patriot's picture

Putin's in the middle of impoverishing ordinary Russians:

1.  Oil prices low (and headed lower);

2.  Ruble low (and headed lower);

3.  Capital fleeing Russia;

4.  $140 billion in foreign debt coming due in 2015 by Russian firms;

5.  Yields high (and headed higher).

Good times for Putin and Russia!

James_Cole's picture

Play time has just begun - American libertarians can't climb over each other fast enough to suck this authoritarian’s dick.

Bay of Pigs's picture

this coming from an American statist dick loving moron. Putin is fighting for his country and people. What is Obama, Congress or the Supreme Court doing for us, you fucking clown?

Save the reply, you're too stupid to know the difference.

Amerikan Patriot's picture

Putin is fighting for his country with the weapons of choice for a statist: a government-controlled and compliant media, autocracy (no rule of law), and gulags or death for the non-compliant (e.g., Mikhail Khodorkovsky).

It was Vladimir Putin, after all, who wistfully remarked that "the greatest catastrophe of the 20th century was the breakup of the Soviet Union." 

In other words, the greatest catastrophe of the 20th century wasn't the 60 million lives lost during WWII, nor was it the tens of millions that died during the Spanish influence pandemic in the early part of the 20th century.

Rather, the 'catastrophe' was that 300 million folks were liberated from a totalitarian regime and a command economy that together were responsible for untold human misery.

Vlad is doing his damndest to reconstitute the SU!

ZerOhead's picture

"Rather, the 'catastrophe' was that 300 million folks were liberated from a totalitarian regime and a command economy that together were responsible for untold human misery."

Nice try... Putin is no democrat however I don't think he was talking about the fall of communism... but then again you probably already know that.

Anyway Clinton sent Rubin, Summmers and the Goldman crew (including BOE Mark Carney) over to have a "fire sale" for Yeltsin. I heard some well connected religious guys walked away with everything worth anything...

Amerikan Patriot's picture

Vlad sees the fall of the USSR as not just a catastrophe, Bob, but the greatest catastrophe of the 20th century.

But facts notwithstanding, thanks for the charitable re-interpretation. 

ZerOhead's picture

You should stop using John Boltons (NeoCon) assessment of what Putin actually said.

Here's what Putin said...  (just for the record)

From the Kremlin:

"Above all, we should acknowledge that the collapse of the Soviet Union was a major geopolitical disaster of the century. As for the Russian nation, it became a genuine drama. Tens of millions of our co-citizens and co-patriots found themselves outside Russian territory. Moreover, the epidemic of disintegration infected Russia itself."



If you wish to read into it that he want's to re-establish communism and take over eastern Europe you are on your own...

Slave's picture

My Ebolaween costume this year is Putin.

The Blank Stare's picture

John Bolton! Haven't heard that name in a while. Awfully similar to what they said about Ahmajinedad wanting to wipe Israel off the map. So many confused minds out there. This was in 2005, Putin was just trying to set the record a little straight about WW I. He pissed off the communists with that speech, how is that bad?

Richard Chesler's picture

Obongo will come out of the closet to teach that pesky Putin a lesson.


Four chan's picture

to challenge the rothschilds paradigm you have to be smarter than their system honed over centuries, i just don't think it can be done.

SilverIsKing's picture

He will send them Pussy Riot. Who wouldn't fall for them lasses?

Keyser's picture

The western-power trolls are thick on this thread... 

Lore's picture

I'm intrigued. You think it's possible to reason with the handlers of the POTUS?

BuddyEffed's picture

4 Weeks ago, I would have expected more sanctions as a result of something like this.  But now, with Ebola worries and with late fall in the batters box, with winter on deck, and no outs and a man in scoring position, maybe the bastards will even start relaxing some prior sanctions.  Relaxing some is probably the best path to not "getting schooled again" by Putin.  If you combat the unfair framing he got, with stand up, straight forward talk, it gets respect from good people.  I am reminded of the talk Ten Bears has with Josey Wales.  The talk is similar, and the situation too, I reckon so...

GetZeeGold's picture




4 Weeks ago


What's that in doggy years?

Amerikan Patriot's picture

Vlad's speech was to Russians and it was in Russian, Bob.  What you've cut and pasted for me is the charitable interpretation you'd have me believe, translated charitably into English.  And even those charitable words do little to assuage the West's fear that Vlad has it solidly within his sights to reconstitute the SU.  Other quotes, and indeed his actions, confirm his nostalgia for the geographic boundaries of the former SU.

And not merely geographic boundaries.  Vlad's already put the world on notice that he values a state-controlled media (easier to disseminate his singular message), authoritarian rule (the Duma quickly rubber stamps his every recommendation), zero rule of law and the gulag system (see, e.g., Mikhail Khodorkovsky).

Vlad is misty-eyed wistful for the good old Soviet days, he's bided his time and is now officially done being W's (or O's) chimp.  Personally, I'm glad he's no longer America's chimp, but thoroughly disappointed that he's chosen authoritarianism.

Merkel and others in Europe and stateside wanted to welcome Vlad as the new exemplar and template of what Russia could become.  But as we have seen, it is not to be. 



ZerOhead's picture

Alright... I'll bite... why don't you show me what he really said then?


BTW... your good friend Khordorkovsky was a well connected communist who used his special privileges to ass-rape his country.


Lore's picture

Zero: Patriot seems to be nothing but a troll. Save your posts for more productive discourse.

ZerOhead's picture

Ya I know... don't feed the trolls

Unfortunately I am cursed with low impulse control...

Rememberweimar's picture

Put the trolls in their place. They're all Jewish and deserve anything you throw at them. Period.

conscious being's picture

Khodorkovsky would be jailed or killed for his stealing in any country except too big to fail America. Because the Zinos, their trolls and theirmedia cry me a river about it does not make him innocent. He was released as a good will jesture for the Zinos and their trolls are still crying about it. In a just world, he would have got the Chinese treatment for embezzelement and crooked shennanigans and his family billed for the bullet.

Volkodav's picture

Even Gorby told that Khordorkovsky would have been locked up in other country sooner for his tax evasions alone.

Russia as no death penalty. He deserved it, responsible for hundreds if not thousands of deaths, especially of old and those isolated when factories/cities stripped and shut, pensions stopped because of lootings.

And direct authorized murders.

Unrepentant Criminal.

viedoklis_lv's picture

Thanks to western sanctions and the Kremlin’s bans on foreign imports, Russia’s economic prospects look gloomy. In September, inflation reached a three-year peak, and could exceed 8 percent by the end of the year. Sliding crude oil prices, growth stagnation, capital flight, and the recent devaluation of Russia's sovereign debt to the second-lowest investment-grade rating leave little room for optimism. The current climate will ultimately increase social instabilityindeed, it is already showing signs of doing so. And despite the arrogant speech Russian President Vladimir Putin delivered at the Valdai Discussion Club, an invite-only gathering of prominent journalists and policymakers held in Sochi last week, he has real reasons to worry.

It’s trivial to point out that Russia, ranking 127 out of 177 countries in Transparency International Corruption Perception Index, is an extremely corrupt country (in fact, TI estimates likely understate the reality). Putin’s kleptocratic system, brilliantly described by Karen Dawisha in a new book (which Cambridge University Press refused to publish earlier this year), has redistributed hydrocarbon profits in exchange to both the so-called core elites (people from the closest pro-Putin circles) and mass constituencies (through pay increases for public sector employees who constitute about 70% of Russia’s middle class, ISRAS estimates) in exchange for unquestioned loyalty. As various kleptocratic schemes evolved under Putin’s rule in the last decade, Russia has fallen about 50 places on the CPI index.

Putin’s main problem is that the system he built up is almost entirely based on material reimbursement. Personalistic regimes like the one he has built sustain the loyalty of their supporters almost entirely through access to material rewards, and they are extremely vulnerable to economic catastrophe. Unlike other political systems, neopatrimonial states have no alternative methods of ensuring support. In institutionalized autocratic systems like China, loyalty can be exchanged for partial power-sharing; in ideological systems like the USSR, moral commitment to ideological values and ideals may sustain elite loyalty. But in a political system built on corruption, the redistribution of capital is the primary method of getting and keeping political support.

For most of the previous decade, the Kremlin enjoyed a continuously expanding economy and increasing resource inflows; Putin had no problem buying the loyalty of the elites while maintaining the support of the Russian populace. So long as the economy was soaring, average Russians remained loyal to the authorities. But things started to change as early as 2011, when Boris Nemtsov, a Russian opposition leader, remarked, “Everyone is unhappy with Putin, save perhaps his closest friends.”

With shrinking financial resources, Putin is no longer able to satisfy both his base and the elites. Now there are signs Russia’s richest and most powerful citizens might be asking for more in exchange for their loyalty. Earlier this year, Putin announced that $14 billion would be allocated to fund three infrastructure projects, two of them by Russian Railways (owned by Vladimir Yakunin, another “longtime friend” of Putin’s). In May, Putin supported the Bank Rossiya, allegedly owned by Putin’s own Ozero Cooperative. After the bank suffered from the western sanctions earlier this year, Putin immediately granted the Bank the right to service payments on Russia's $36 billion wholesale electricity market, a huge business, worth 2 percent of Russia’s GDP (hence ensuring the Bank with up to $112 million annually from commission charges alone). In the meantime, more close friends of Putin are seeking support.



Phuk u's picture

This is Putins speech and Q & A session from Valdai straight from

the horses mouth (not John Kerry). I suggest Z'Hedgers read it

and make their own interpretations. I have my thoughts about

Putins intentions over Ukraine so I won't bore you with those again.




This will give you a better indication than the jerk at Club Orlov

or whoever interpreted Putin speech. Apologies if this link has already

been pasted.

TuPhat's picture

That took a while to read.  Thank you for the link.  Putin was telling the truth in his speech.  I think Putin is playing chess, lies won't work in that game.  Obama is playing liers poker and he's using taxpayers money to play with.

Phuk u's picture


From his responses to questions it is clear to see what path he is taking

in regard to Ukraine. It does not bode well for the future not just for

Ukraine but for us all. All the answers to his thinking and intentions

are clearly visible in that piece (albeit long).

validate's picture

Guess for whom the New Republic serves as a mouthpiece. Get real

viedoklis_lv's picture

This is how Putin regime helps THEIR people AKA elite:

Russia looks to compensate its sanctioned elite



Russian oil giant Rosneft sought financial aid of $49 billion (over 2 trillion rubles) from the Russian government’s National Welfare Fund


viedoklis_lv's picture

High five to Amerikan Patriot - good to see more people fighting against ruskie trolls here and Putin oligarch regime propoganda!


I will repeat this post because in my opinion it’s important to open eyes those who have good intention in their heart but have been misled by elite / regimes of different sides. How I see things is I look at what government is doing – looking at its work, methods and results. And from there it’s basically two sides: those who work in good of common people and protect their individual rights & freedoms, and those who manipulate their people take their rights away and work for elite benefits. Now you look from that perspective and you are going around in so called “alternative media” as this (which actually is not alternative at all – but about that little later) than I’m sure you are aware about US oligarch regime crimes and that they are not working for the people. What you are lacking in information at some sites is about other elites / regimes / oligarchs and how they treat their people. So because of this lack of information you can be easily manipulated to think that there is only one evil elite that rules west and others can be looked at as opposition to this evil – so automatically they are the good guys VS evil west. Well it’s not so at all. If you go back to what I started and those criteria how I divide governments – than you will realize that for example Putin oligarch regime, China elite regime – is not working for their people and is not protecting their individual rights and freedoms. They use the same tactics, the same crimes, the same manipulation in order to gain their elite more power more wealth and hides it under different banners. I’ post links about Putin regime in the end – check them out.

This manipulation with your mind is possible using different kind of channels that you think is alternative media – when actually it’s Putin regime asset for brainwashing you. Also US oligarch regime has their alternative media to brainwash you. So it’s really hard to stay focus and not to get lost in this war over your mind. But those criteria I posted can help you.

What Putin regime assets as RT, Zerohedge (because obviously it is Putin regime asset as you will not be able to find any criticism towards from this site towards actions Putin regime do to their people by limiting their freedoms, by internet censorship and of course will stay in line with Putin regime lies that they are not invading Ukraine - when there is evidence
about Putin regime tanks in Ukraine that are not in any country army but only in Russian) does is they are mixing truth with lies. You know – you have to add some sugar for bitter poison. They are well aware about US oligarch crimes and they are well aware that MSM is hiding them from people in west and they are well aware that people in west is seeking the truth that exposes these crimes – so what they do is this – they expose US oligarch regime crimes for what you are so interested in and in this way they are taking your attention and confidence to this source so that you trust them and thank them for bringing truth. And what they do then is they add their Putin regime lies that you automatically accept as truth because they were saying truth about US oligarch regime crimes (not always though). So this is the way they mix truth with lies in order to make you think from their perspective. If they add more paid trolls than mostly this scheme will work and people will live under Putin regime brainwashing machine. So now you know. Now it’s a choice for you to think this trough and start looking at information more with critical thinking. Yes, world is not so simple as we think.

Here are some links to look at and think of if you are cheering for Putin regime:









conscious being's picture

Excuse me Latvian Nazi or Zino-troll, which ever the case may be, could you cut down the size of your posts as a favor to the rest of us?? Because in this format where posts get stretched out vertically, it takes a tedious amount of time to scroll past your bullshit.


eclectic syncretist's picture

I do NOT think people here are fans of Putin personally, but rather they are fans of patriotism and good leadership, and Putin seems to be the only serious leader who is a true patriot of his own country.  The rest of the world leaders continually appear more concerned with lust for power, image, and how they can skim something for themselves at the expense of the common citizen. 

viedoklis_lv's picture

How Patriotic is to censoship internet?

The law that launched a thousand ships: creating the RuNet Blacklist

[The full text in Russian. RuNet Echo’s commentary in English.]

Signed by Putin on July 28, 2012. This is law that launched the crackdown on Internet freedom in Russia. The law created a government registry for websites found to contain materials deemed harmful to children. Illegal content under this law includes child pornography, drug paraphernalia, and instructions about self-harm. Without a court order, Russia’s federal communications agency is able to add to the registry any website hosting such material. Later laws have allowed police to blacklist other kinds of websites, too, using the infrastructure created here.

The ‘Russian SOPA’

[The full text of the original law in Russian. The text of the updated draft legislation. RuNet Echo’s commentary in English.]

Signed on July 2, 2013. Often referred to as the “Russian SOPA,” this is an anti-piracy law that allows courts to block websites accused of hosting stolen intellectual property. What ultimately reached Putin’s desk in July 2013 was a somewhat watered-down version of the initial legislation, which called for applying the law to a wide variety of content. (The law’s final text addressed only stolen films.) The Russian Parliament is poised, however, to pass a new bill later this year that will expand the law’s application to music, e-books, and software.

Blacklisting the news

[The full text in Russian. RuNet Echo’s commentary in English.]

Signed on December 28, 2013. This law gives Russia’s Attorney General the extrajudicial power to add to the RuNet Blacklist any websites containing “calls to riots, extremist activities, the incitement of ethnic and (or) sectarian hatred, terrorist activity, or participation in public events held in breach of appropriate procedures.” In March 2014, police used this law to block four major opposition websites, including three news portals and the blog of Russia’s most prominent anti-corruption activist. Since the law passed last year, the Attorney General as blacklisted 191 different Web addresses.

The law that got away: policing news-aggregators

In April 2014, Putin revealed at a public forum that the government was investigating the legal status of online news-aggregation services like Yandex News. In May, a Duma deputy asked the Russian Attorney General to issue a ruling about the status of Yandex News, to determine if the state should regulate such websites as mass media outlets. In early June, Yandex’s CEO joined Putin onstage at a forum on Internet entrepreneurship, where the two chatted amicably about the RuNet’s economic potential. On July 1, Russian newspapers reported that the Attorney General does not consider news-aggregation to qualify as mass media, aborting the Duma’s effort to impose new regulations on Yandex News and similar websites.

The anti-terrorism package, aka “the Bloggers Law”

[The full text in Russian. RuNet Echo’s commentary in English.]

Signed on May 5, 2014. This package consisted of three separate laws, hurried through the Duma after terrorist attacks in the city of Volgograd in December 2013. Two of the laws added new Internet regulations, creating restrictions on electronic money transfers (banning all foreign financial transactions involving anonymous parties) and extensive requirements for governing the activity of “popular bloggers” and the data retention of certain websites and online networks. The “law on bloggers” takes effect on August 1, 2014, creating a new registry especially for citizen-media outlets with daily audiences bigger than three thousand people. Bloggers added to this registry face a series of new regulations (against obscene language, libel, and so on), increasing their vulnerability to criminal prosecution.

Hard time for retweets

[The full text in Russian. RuNet Echo’s commentary in English.]

Signed on June 28, 2014. This law allows the government to hand down five-year prison sentences to people who re-disseminate extremist materials online. The “law against retweets” codifies an existing police practice, but making the policy official could increase the number of such prosecutions in the future.

A digital Gulag

[The full text in Russian. RuNet Echo’s commentary in English.]

Passed by the Duma on July 4, 2014. This legislation still awaits the Senate’s approval and Putin’s signature. The law, if passed, will require all websites that store user data about Russian citizens to house that data on servers located inside Russia. According to the legislation’s logic, websites will be barred from storing Russian users’ personal data anywhere outside of Russia (though the law’s actual text is somewhat vague on this point, perhaps because of jurisdictional limitations on what Russia can mandate outside its borders). The law applies to a wide variety of websites, ranging from e-booking services to Facebook, affecting any website or online service operating on the concept of “users.”


Agent700's picture

"What you are lacking in information at some sites is about other elites / regimes / oligarchs and how they treat their people. So because of this lack of information you can be easily manipulated to think that there is only one evil elite that rules west and others can be looked at as opposition to this evil – so automatically they are the good guys VS evil west. Well it’s not so at all"

So can you please show me some "good elites" in DC and Wall Street? You know, the ones that, "work in good of common people and protect their individual rights & freedoms"?

And when you point out those few TRUE AMERICAN PATRIOTS who follow our original U.S. Constitution and understand SOUND MONEY, please enlighten me on how well they are doing and how they will prevail for the good of my children's future.

Only then might we start paying attention to YOUR MANIPULATION (or at least attempted manipulation).


LooseLee's picture

"what Russia could become."

According to whom?

fleur de lis's picture

unAmerikan antiPatriot,

Vlad is nobody's fool. Unlike you he knows all too well that the Soviet system was a Western construct funded by Western central banks to control and loot the massive Russian Empire and subject its proud inhabitants to savage abuses for decades on end. Then when the Western malefactors tired of that system they let Russia twist in the wind whilst they meddled elswhere. Why would he ever take instructions from such psychopaths? He does what needs to be done to protect his country, which is more than anyone can say about the marauders who control America. 

spekulatn's picture

No fair. ZerOhead is using actual words of fact to make his case. More innuendo and bullshit puffery please. 

/sarc off/