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S&P 500 Spikes To Record High - How It Got There

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Nope, its fundamentals...

 

 

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Fri, 10/31/2014 - 09:47 | 5398034 Cognitive Dissonance
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Parabolic blow off. Fun in sin city.

<I love it when they refill the punch bowl with spiked Kool-Aid.>

Fri, 10/31/2014 - 09:57 | 5398093 Pool Shark
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Uh, no.

The record high for the S&P is 2019.

Today it has only gotten as high as 2013...

 

 

 

Fri, 10/31/2014 - 11:29 | 5398475 Smiddywesson
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Silly shark, they can't distribute their lines of stock unless they get somebody to hold the bag, so of course we'll see new highs as they wiggle the bait.

Fri, 10/31/2014 - 10:03 | 5398120 fooshorter
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SO BULLISH, IT HURTS!

Fri, 10/31/2014 - 12:58 | 5398159 AR
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Hey CD: I hope you and the family are well. I thought I'd quickly give you a "shout-out" and pass on some good will. Congratulations on your site too. Someone in the office brought it to my attention. You hang in there.

Here are a few decent books to glance over in your spare time (if you haven't read them already). All three are classics.

(1) The History of Money & Banking in the U.S. (By: Rothbard / Mises Institute)

(2) Secrets of the Federal Reserve (By: Mullins)

(3)  The Creature from Jekyll Island (By: Griffin)

Anyone in markets (especially today's markets) should read through these to gain a broader perspective on what is occurring today, and why. Let's just say, history indeed repeats.

You take care Buddy.

Fri, 10/31/2014 - 09:49 | 5398042 FreeShitter
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Elections, NWO vs BRICS in currency wars, Stealth QE from America from now on, Japan went full retard just now, Gold slammd.......

Fri, 10/31/2014 - 09:48 | 5398043 ejmoosa
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Fundamentals are going the way of the telegraph and the steam engine.  There's no place for them in today's economy.

Fri, 10/31/2014 - 10:27 | 5398215 Sages wife
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Because they get in the way of making SERIOUS cake!

Fri, 10/31/2014 - 10:34 | 5398251 webspin
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Fundamentals I have always been vastly overrated as a way of making money. Markets don't hand you money because you can look at a PE ratio because everybody else can do such simple math as that. The markets are game of poker and most of the people at the table are much smarter than you are.

Fri, 10/31/2014 - 09:50 | 5398052 buzzsaw99
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for the past month (dead frog + electrode) keeps coming to mind

Fri, 10/31/2014 - 11:53 | 5398579 Urban Roman
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Doesn't that combination start to stink, after a while?

Fri, 10/31/2014 - 09:50 | 5398056 lester1
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Mom and pop retirement money is still pouring into the stock market because of the FED's ZIRP stimulus, 0% interest rates on savings.

So in reality the training wheels are still on the market.

The FED needs to normalize interest rates. Then lets see how well the stock market does.

Fri, 10/31/2014 - 09:51 | 5398060 john_connor
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"great earnings growth and solid fundamentals.  valuations are in line with historical norms."

 

LMAO

src/ off

Fri, 10/31/2014 - 10:51 | 5398330 Whootie_who
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This market is INVINCIBLE

Fri, 10/31/2014 - 11:19 | 5398440 barre-de-rire
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this market cannot be de-rigged

Fri, 10/31/2014 - 14:52 | 5399317 armageddon addahere
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And the muppetts cannot be de-frigged

Fri, 10/31/2014 - 09:52 | 5398067 Rainman
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Central banking chicanery comes in many forms and from many continents. I predicted the QE grease coming from Draghi .... maybe I just got the timing wrong.

Fri, 10/31/2014 - 09:51 | 5398068 LULZBank
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LOOK MA, NO FUCKING HANDS !!!!!

Fri, 10/31/2014 - 11:21 | 5398441 barre-de-rire
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made me laugh

Fri, 10/31/2014 - 09:54 | 5398080 thismarketisrigged
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did anyone here that douchebag jim cramer today on cnbc?

 

he was as bad as he ever has been, and that say a lot.

 

he was saying how all the ppl who claimed the ''market'' would tank when qe ended were wrong, that this rally is all based on fundementals and profits that companies r making, and nothing to do with qe.

 

i wanted to fucking punch that man so hard in the face

Fri, 10/31/2014 - 10:00 | 5398107 Squid Viscous
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Meanwhile he was bearish 3 weeks ago, listing all the things that had to happen for the market to start going back up...

now he's taking a victory lap, LOL 

Fri, 10/31/2014 - 09:55 | 5398084 halfasleep
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guys and gals. please, just btmfd already.

Fri, 10/31/2014 - 09:54 | 5398086 J J Pettigrew
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THERE IS NO ROOM FOR A CONTRARIAN IN A PLANNED ECONOMY / MARKET

YOU ARE LONG OR WRONG.....UNTIL A BLACK SWAN FLIES BY

Fri, 10/31/2014 - 10:04 | 5398126 Wait What
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"UNTIL A BLACK SWAN CRASHES INTO YOUR WINDSHIELD"

fixed it for ya

Fri, 10/31/2014 - 11:10 | 5398402 Cpl Hicks
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Uh, oh.
I think that black swan is the Obama Administration splattered all over my windshield.
It's going to take a dang big squeegee to clean that mess off my car.

Fri, 10/31/2014 - 09:57 | 5398099 astoriajoe
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Does anyone have either a Nikkei/Eggs or S&P/Eggs chart that can be posted from time to time?

Fri, 10/31/2014 - 09:57 | 5398100 Keltner Channel Surf
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As Barney Rubble once said:  "Ya can't trade this shit"

Fri, 10/31/2014 - 10:01 | 5398115 Wait What
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at this point, does anyone wonder why millenials are pissing on engineering to study psychology?

all you have to do is spend 1 day on ZH to understand why.

it's all b.s. propaganda intent on making you 'toss aside your deflationary mentality' isn't it?

for the record, i wasn't a psych major, but i've banged a few who were convinced they could fix themselves by studying the field.

Fri, 10/31/2014 - 10:03 | 5398122 replaceme
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Yeefucking Haw, time to make some cash money...

Fri, 10/31/2014 - 10:06 | 5398135 yogibear
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The central banks can't let the market normalize they have to keep juicing it with round after round of printing.

Why hold yen? 

Fri, 10/31/2014 - 10:07 | 5398136 moneybots
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"S&P 500 Spikes To Record High - How It Got There"

 

Massive financial fraud.

Fri, 10/31/2014 - 10:08 | 5398139 ydderf1950
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why do the us markets like jap qe so much? serious question

Fri, 10/31/2014 - 11:17 | 5398425 Richard Chesler
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Here is how the yen carry trade basically works,

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    • Hedge funds and other very big traders borrow the yen at very, very low interest rates now approaching zero.
    • The yen are converted to dollars, which are invested in U.S. Treasuries at a much higher yield than the interest cost for the borrowed yen. That creates a “positive carry” because of the differential in interest rates.
    • The buying drives up U.S. bond prices. The traders accrue big profits, when done with high leverage, assuming the yen value doesn’t rise.
    • Additional profits are made when a) The dollar rises vs. the yen as the BOJ intends, b) U.S. Treasuries rise in price (as is happening)
    • Triple Profits: A leverage 100:1 means that a 1% rise in the value of the dollar vs. yen doubles the value of the equity investment. An additional profit is made if the U.S. T-bonds rise in price as they have done. Further profits are made from the positive carry, i.e. when the yield on the T-bonds is greater than the interest cost on the yen. That’s a “triple profit.”
    • Profits are reinvested in the stock market and corrupt US politicians for diversification.
Fri, 10/31/2014 - 10:10 | 5398146 Crash Overide
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Laughable.

Fri, 10/31/2014 - 10:16 | 5398178 BrosephStiglitz
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I reiterate:  A collapsing Japanese government/economy is short-term bullish for US equities.

Fri, 10/31/2014 - 12:36 | 5398719 halfasleep
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not sure why you got a red.. i think the cognitive dissonance most practiced around zh is that, as much as it pains me to say, the US is the cleanest monetary dirty shirt in the world, with the strongest (though declining) military in the world, and until that plays out us equities will be sought after internationally, which could take years. rome didn't collapse in a day, or a year.

Fri, 10/31/2014 - 10:21 | 5398194 webspin
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Lots of anger here on zero hedge. Your poorly conceived conclusions about investing are the problem not the markets! Analyzing markets for 40 years, figured it out 20 years ago, watch and learn.

Fri, 10/31/2014 - 10:24 | 5398203 orangegeek
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mama yellen and her printing presses are the problem

 

but you are right - so take your entire porfolio and go long  - we are heading to SPX 2500 - go long with everything you have - borrow if you can

Fri, 10/31/2014 - 10:37 | 5398261 webspin
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I was long February 22 of 2009 so what you mean is don't make any changes in my investing philosophy.

Fri, 10/31/2014 - 10:48 | 5398303 nope-1004
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In 2005 I had a car.  It was a real POS.  Got it painted, rolled back the odometer (changed the accounting of it) fixed up some minor things to make it run, made it really glossy and shiny, and sold it for way more than it was worth.

You should have seen the poor assed sucker that bought it.  I mean, what a fucking fool.  He bought this overpriced POS and didn't even know what he was buying.  I was laughing all the way to the bank.  My neighbor told me I was being dishonest.  Fuck my neighbor if he doesn't know how to make money in this market.  What law did I break?  NONE.  I made so much money, I started posting on used car sites that the suckers there are too dumb to engage in the same illicit behavior and didn't know how to make real money, because they were all too concerned about an honest days pay.

Now, the above was my story, which isn't true.  But what about my story is different than how you financial hucksters behave?

 

Fri, 10/31/2014 - 11:22 | 5398457 barre-de-rire
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cool story bro

Fri, 10/31/2014 - 12:20 | 5398681 webspin
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The "huckster" here would be people peddling bad investment advise and profiting from a foolish group that follow them. How any sane person could miss the boat on what effect economic stimulace has on buisness/consumer spending and hence securities is confusing to say the least.

Fri, 10/31/2014 - 17:53 | 5399868 webspin
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Swearing is the sign of a small mind lacking in the ability to better express themselves. You're also very angry at the world is not listening to what your mind says it should do. You'll never succeed at speculating if you don't become an observer of the world and how it works. If this were easy stuff everybody would be doing it.

Fri, 10/31/2014 - 12:51 | 5398793 Againstthelie
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I was long February 22 of 2009 so what you mean is don't make any changes in my investing philosophy.

So you are sitting on huge profits. And when are you realizing them? Buying low is only one half of the game, you expert.

Fri, 10/31/2014 - 13:19 | 5398913 malek
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So you're sitting on unrealized profits since February 22 of 2009?

Good luck sucker!

Fri, 10/31/2014 - 14:12 | 5399147 Jameson18
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A very old and wise stockbroker ask me this when I said I made a killing in the stock market.

 

DID YOU SELL !!!!!

WELL DID YOU.

Fri, 10/31/2014 - 10:38 | 5398269 Racer
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These are no 'markets' and if you 'invest' in them then fine go ahead.

These 'markets' are so devoid of investment in anything of benefit to the 99.9999% and is only a pyramid scheme that will eventually come crashing down around the ears of the central banksters and their pals. When will it happen I don't know? They thought tulips were wonderful, they thought the South Sea company was wonderful.

Angkor Wat, the Romans, Aztecs, British Empire....

 

Fri, 10/31/2014 - 10:46 | 5398304 starman
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1929! Im talking about the year not the S &P! 

Fri, 10/31/2014 - 11:22 | 5398455 eishund
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DIVERGENCE.

Fri, 10/31/2014 - 15:42 | 5399522 polo007
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According to Natixis FICC Research:

http://personal.crocodoc.com/SU8Hy8u

In reality, central banks control only the prices of the assets they buy directly

When a central bank buys an asset directly (often government bonds), it drives up the price of this asset, the demand for which increases.

But the prices of the other asset classes increase only if the economic agents that have sold the first assets to the central bank use the money received to buy these other asset classes.

This transmission of increases in asset prices to all asset classes is therefore unstable, since it depends on the behaviour of investors and savers. Since 2012, we have seen that central banks’ purchases first led asset sellers to buy risky assets (equities, corporate bonds), whose prices rose. But in the recent period, the rise in risk aversion has turned them away from risky assets, whose prices have fallen, and they have invested the money received from the central bank in risk-free assets.

There is therefore no stable monetary policy "risk channel"; the only asset prices that are controlled by central banks in the longer run are those of the assets that central banks buy directly. This could in the future push central banks to buy riskier assets if they want to change their prices in a stable manner.

Central banks’ asset purchases have a direct impact on the prices of these assets

When a central bank buys financial assets, it increases demand for these assets, which directly drives up their prices.

This occurred with purchases of Treasuries and ABS in the United States (Charts 1A and B) and with government bonds in the United Kingdom and Japan (Charts 2A and B), and with the announcement of covered bond purchases in the euro zone (Chart 3).

But the impact of the central bank’s asset purchases on other asset classes is uncertain

- The central bank buys assets (especially government bonds, Charts 1A, 2A and B above).

- It pays by creating money (Chart 4).

- The economic agents that sell assets to the central bank use this money to buy other assets. But they have a free choice: a quantitative easing policy will drive up the prices of the assets that economic agents choose to buy, not the prices of the others.

- We also saw from 2011-2012 until the spring of 2014:

• A tightening of credit spreads (Charts 5A and B, 6A and B);

• A rise in the stock market (Charts 7A and B, 8A and B).

- But investors’ risk aversion has risen since the spring of 2014, (Charts 9A and B): they no longer buy risky assets and the prices of these assets have corrected downwards, whereas long-term interest rates on risk-free government bonds have fallen sharply (Chart 3 above, Charts 10A and B).

Conclusion: The risk channel is not robust

The transmission of the rise in the prices of the assets the central bank buys directly to a rise in the prices of other assets is therefore unstable, since it depends on investors’ attitude and their risk aversion.

The "risk channel" is the mechanism through which the central bank’s monetary creation drives down risk premia.

We have seen that this mechanism is unstable: it functions only if economic agents use the money created by the central bank, in exchange for purchases of risk-free assets, to buy risky assets.

If their risk aversion rises, this mechanism disappears - and so does the risk channel. In that case, the only remaining possibility for the central bank is to buy risky assets directly if it wants to drive down their prices.

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