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Canada Suspends Visa Applications From Ebola-Affected Nations
While the Obama administration continues its schizophrenic approach in countering the threat of Ebola spreading on US soil, on one hand demanding that states eliminate mandatory quarantines of citizens in their Ebola response protocol since a ban on travel from west Africa is considered out of the question, while on the other the Pentagon just approved a mandatory 3 week "isolation" of troops returning from Ebola missions, yesterday Canada announced a far more practical solution: America's northern neighbor said it was suspending visa applications for residents of Ebola-hit nations in a bid to prevent the deadly virus from crossing its borders.
As AFP reports, where the US was unwilling to halt inbound travel from impaired west-African nations, Canada had no such qualms and Immigration Canada said authorities would not process any visa applications from individuals who had been in an Ebola-affected nation "within three months prior to the date of the application."
"Canada has been a leader in the international efforts to respond to the Ebola outbreak in West Africa," said Chris Alexander, Canada's immigration minister.
"The precautionary measures announced today build on actions we have taken to protect the health and safety of Canadians here at home."
A statement said immigration authorities would also not issue new visa applications or process existing applications from foreign nationals intending to travel to an Ebola-affected nation.
The rule did not affect applications for visa renewals of foreign nationals who are already in Canada, the statement said.
Although Canada has had several alerts for possible Ebola cases, the country has yet to record its first confirmed incidence of the disease.
"Our number one priority is to protect Canadians," Canadian health minister Rona Ambrose said in a statement.
It remains to be seen if an inbound travel ban, which is effectively what Canada's action is, will have any impact on disease spread: over the past month health experts, at least in the US, have been unanimously vocal in saying it’s a bad idea that could backfire. Still, it doesn't appear to be so bad to prevent Canada from trying it out. Meanwhile, the CDC's Frieden announced in mid-October that roughly 100 to 150 persons from Ebola infected countries enter the U.S. daily.
The good news is that while the Ebola epidemic continues to rage in west Africa, resulting in nearly 5000 deaths as of yesterday...
... the lack of any adverse new developments in the US in the past week has pushed the topic of the deadly virus away from the front pages. One hopes this isn't merely a brief lull ahead of what is shaping up to be the busiest holiday season for air travel yet.
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I thought they cleared up that there prebola.
The Spanish government said it is concerned that terrorists could use the Ebola virus as a biological weapon against the West. A close eye is being kept on online chat rooms, where such attacks are reportedly discussed among jihadist groups.
Extremists connected to the Islamic State (IS, previously ISIS) have been considering using Ebola as a weapon against the West, Spain’s State Secretary for Security, Francisco Martinez, said in an address to the parliament.
Martinez stated that this type of activity serves as further proof that the internet is an “an extension of the battlefield” for the Islamic State, which uses cyberspace for “threatening enemies through propaganda, preparing operations, exchanging information, ideological training, recruiting new members and acquiring finance.”
There are “many examples” of online terrorist chat logs discussing the use of biological warfare against the West, Spain’s RTVE public broadcasting corporation reported.
http://rt.com/news/201371-ebola-weapon-isis-terrorism/
Blowback can be such a bitch:
ISIS: The jihadist movement stamped “Made in America”The fact remains, however, that the US, the major European powers, and their regional allies all previously lent financial, military and political support to ISIS and similar groups, which have “Made in the USA” stamped all over them. They have, until now, played a significant part in Washington’s efforts to overthrow the regime of President Bashar al-Assad in Syria, as part of a broader effort to gain control of the region’s vast energy resources and transit routes.
http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2014/07/30/isis-j30.html
They should try to target Israel and see how that works out for them ... hope they like bleeding out of their eyes.
Those who live in glass houses should be careful with throwing stones.
I have my doubts they could pull this off easily. A dirty bomb would be easier because if smuggled across the border it could be detonated at the precise time for maximum effect. I read that 7ml of purified botulism toxin could kill everyone in a small city. Why has not been done? Because of the dispersal problem. If dumped in a reservoir it would become too dilute to be effective. Same with aerosolization of an agent. Too dilute to kill enough except for the very ill and susceptible.
The same problem with an Ebola infected individual. At some point they will be immobile and unable to spread the virus themselves without help. Individuals who may use their blood for nefarious activities risk infection themselves. Only through extreme care, planning and perfect timing could this be done on a large scale. Perhaps if many infected individuals were to invade at once and cripple the health system, it may have a chance. Seems a bit far fetched to me. But I'm sitting next to a wide open border so I can't say I really feel comfortable about the impossibility of this scenario.
Miffed
Agreed, plenty of other stuff would work better, if you really don't care who you kill.
Let's stick to some really old and well known things: anthrax, sarin, and even mustard gas (WWI) would all be easier to target and control.
At the end of the Cold War the Soviet Union had two tons of Small Pox virus, India I, the very worst stuff on hand. There are many reasons to fear Ebola. The weapons thing, not so much.
"I have my doubts they could pull this off easily. ... If dumped in a reservoir it would become too dilute to be effective. Same with aerosolization of an agent. Too dilute to kill enough except for the very ill and susceptible.
The same problem with an Ebola infected individual. At some point they will be immobile and unable to spread the virus themselves without help."
Were I less of a diplomant, I'd say that's when you strap the carcas to a 500lb bomb and air-burst it over whoever paid it. Fortunately, the Kenyan has an appeasement plan ready for this eventuality.
All they have to do is go on a packed rush hour train in Europe and cough like a freaking pig as they move from train to train.
First principles, Clarice. Simplicity. Read Marcus Aurelius. Which is really just a paraphrase of a quote from Meditations.
"This, what is it in itself, and by itself, according to its proper constitution? What is the substance of it? What is the matter, or proper use? What is the form, or efficient cause? What is it for in this world, and how long will it abide? Thus must thou examine all things that present themselves unto thee."
Ebola is showy but simply just too difficult to engineer effectively IMHO.
Miffed
Miffed, I tend to think that the ruling classes that dominate NATO countries are the people who are both criminally insane enough, as well as have the means, to mass murder other people on a vast scale. I believe that we tend to underestimate the degree to which their established systems of debt slavery backed by wars based on deceits have depended on runaway rampant criminal insanities at the top of the social pyramid systems. Their "war on terror" was the latest example of wars based on deceits, started by the ruling classes, as a self-fulfilling prophesy, in a long line of previous episodes of similar social situations.
I think we tend to disregard that the financial terrorists are, by far, the greatest of all! The lower level organized crime gangs are able to flourish because the pyramidion people are the higher level organized crime gangs, such as how the biggest gangsters are the banksters, which effectively control governments, in order to be able to get away with utterly awesome levels of organized crime, such as legalizing the counterfeiting of the public "money" supply out of nothing as debts by private banks. Since money is measurement backed by murder (but the murder aspects of that tend to be deliberately discounted) the actual social facts, when one attempts to judge them more objectively, puts the banksters in a class by themselves, as collectively groups of trillionaire mass murderers, which surpass all others combined by orders of magnitude!
"The fish rots from the head." The methods of organized crime control civilization in fractal patterns, cascading down from the highest levels of the pyramidion people. Those who are called "terrorist" were created by far greater terrorists, that dominate governments. In general, the technology exists to create extremely terrible bioweapons. However, those who have the most means, as well as the most criminally insane attitudes, are not the lower level problems that the mass media may warn us about, but rather, the higher level people, who are controlling the mass media messages.
The basic problems are always being amplified to more astronomical sizes by advancing science and technology, channeled through social pyramid systems whose fundamental structure is based on backing up lies with violence. It is practically impossible for most people to go through enough levels of deeper understanding of the deeper nature of those problems. There was always natural selection, whose central features were death controls. Human forms of artificial selection necessarily must deal with that issue. However, the real ways that history happened made those death controls most successfully done through the maximum possible deceits. Therefore, the controlled opposition groups to the established systems were selected to operate inside of that deceitful frame of reference too.
The grand paradoxes developing are due to things like advancing biomedical technology being developed through combined money/murder systems based on the maximum possible frauds and deceits, wherein the ruling classes are doing those things the most, while they create social stories about that which are almost totally bullshit. It has reached the point where it is practically impossible to have any rational scientific debate about social facts, while the lower levels of science and technology keep on advancing at exponential rates.
Combined, we have more and more people who are able to make the poor man's atomic bomb, namely biological weapons. However, it very likely continues to be that false flag attack uses of those bioweapons by the ruling classes are more probable, since they have more of the means, as well as are much more criminally insane, than the lower level organized crime gangs. Of course, since the pyramidion people deliberately exacerbate the threats of "terrorists" or other organized crime gangs, in order to actually advance the agenda of the ruling classes, one expects that the uses of bioweapons will fit into that pattern too.
The basic PROBLEM is the growing Grand Canyon CHASM between progress in science and technology in the realms of physics and biology, while nothing like that has happened in the area of social sciences and social engineering, since in those areas social successes were based on deceits and frauds, while the ruling classes did that far more than other lower levels of organized criminals. However, it still is true that it is the system as a whole which is criminally insane, far beyond the levels at which its topmost people are the most criminally insane. After all, the controlled opposition groups to those established systems are just as insane, if not theoretically even more so, judging by how what they assert is based on evil deliberate ignorance too.
The basic reasons continue to be that there must necessarily be some death control systems, and there are ones that developed their successes based on them being deceitful. Sane social science would have to address the central issues of human ecology, within which everything else would find its context. However, the real human ecology was developed through the history of murder systems which were most successful when done most deceitfully. The threats of bioweapons fit inside of that overall pattern of debt slavery generating numbers which are debt insanities, which threaten to provoke death insanities, which could be caused by bioweapons more than anything else, including nuclear weapons. However, since the only genuinely better resolutions to basic human ecology problems must be better death controls, while being genuinely scientific about those is almost totally impossible for the overwhelming vast majority of people to consider, we are rushing towards our collective criminally insanities driving death insanities in the form of bioweapons, which will probably be done as false flag attacks, by the most criminally insane terrorists, who dominate governments and the mass media, who will likely get away with blaming that on various lower level terrorists, whose original creation was due to the previous actions on the higher level terrorists in the first place.
Basic human ecology has developed through increasingly artificial selection systems in which there are groups who are the predator/parasite people versus the groups who are the productive/prey people. The various groups who are publicly labeled as "terrorist organizations" are being labeled by bigger groups which are actually far worse "terrorist organizations." Meanwhile, the majority of the productive/prey people are continue being tricked and fooled, on very deep levels, by the ways that the biggest terrorists, the financial terrorists, the banksters, were able to profit from every evil thing that they were able to do, while they were then able to use some of those profits to dominate other social institutions, such as the schools and mass media, to brainwash most people to believe in the biggest bullies' bullshit view of the world.
It is impossible to exaggerate the degree to which the actual death controls are done. and understood to be done, in as backwards of ways as humanly possible. That is basic problem that is being magnified by more and more orders of magnitude, as progress in biology, and biological technologies, including bioweapons, is being channeled through social pyramid systems based on the maximum possible deceits and deliberate ignorance towards themselves. The intellectual scientific revolutions that would be necessary to reconcile the development of physical and biological weapons of mass destruction go off the scale of what is remotely possible from any practical point of view, because the politics of that would require that the basic human ecology, that surrounds the political economy, of social pyramid systems would have to be address and admitted, which means that the pyramidion people would be recognized as the supreme gangs of criminals, who have become the most criminally insane, while, at the same time, their genuine opposition would have to continue to admit and address the basic facts regarding why some death controlling murder systems must necessarily exist.
The basic problem is that progress in social sciences and social engineering is theoretically possible, but, it would face problems such as coping with the possibilities of bioweapon false flag attacks, done by the ruling classes, to blame on somebody else. Furthermore, coping with that consideration becomes hyper-complicated by the ways that the principles and methods of organized crime run throughout human societies in fractal patterns, and therefore, the lower level terrorist criminals were often originally aided and abetted by the higher level terrorist criminals.
Anyway, Miffed, I think your comments barely scratched the surface of attempting to comprehend the possible levels of criminal insanities that could be involved in bioweapons causing death insanity situations. In that context, I will repeat that the majority of human beings operate inside of the established political economy and human ecology by being the productive/prey people, who are profoundly unable to understand the ways that the predator/parasite people are controlling the language used and thus the way that the productive/prey people think about the social facts.
The development of any sufficiently advanced general levels of public understanding of social sciences and social engineering is extremely difficult given that the majority of people think in ways which were developed by them filling the niches of the productive/prey people. Advancing biological knowledge ought to breakthrough to better understanding of human ecology. However, all the the biggest bullies' bullshit social stories are in the way of that happening, which means that all of the publicly significant religions and ideologies, which are designed for the productive/prey people, are in the way of any such progress in social sciences or social engineering.
After all, biological weapons "fit" inside of the overall history of militarism, the same as atomic weapons "fit" inside the history of militarism. HOWEVER, weapons that are trillions of times more powerful actually no longer "fit" into any of the established social pyramid systems, with their old-fashioned controlled oppositions. We continue to watch and wait as the cognitive dissonances between progress in physics and biology develop inside of social pyramid systems based on backing up lies with violence. All together, those increasing levels of criminal insanities are spinning out of control, with the threat of the deployment of bioweapons being probably the single worst really possible ways that could happen.
I REPEAT the basics: the medical systems operate inside the money systems, which operate inside the murder system. The murder systems developed to be most socially successful by being most deceitful. The money system developed to be most socially successful by being the most fraudulent. Therefore, the basic medical systems share in those profound levels of deceits and frauds, where situations which could be metaphorically described as "firefighter arsonists" could be expected to play significant covert roles.
I REPEAT the only genuinely better resolutions to these kinds of problems would require in changing the language that we use, and the ways that we think, so that the productive/prey people could understand better how and why the predatory/parasite people do what they do. The are NO genuine, realistic resolutions to those problems by continuing to think the same ways that the productive/prey people presume are the correct ways to think. However, neither are the old-fashioned ways that the predator/parasite people think paths towards superior resolutions to these problems.
Fundamentally, ONLY intellectual scientific revolutions, that apply to political science, are sufficient to comprehend and cope with the problems which have been driven by the development of things like biological and physical weapons which are trillions of times more powerful than anything which previously existed in known human history. ... However, at the present time, an objective assessment must still be that our society is collectively too criminally insane to be able to do that ...
If your premises are true, it doesn't bode well going forward. Power always begets the desire for more power. At present, the state has become more powerful than ever before, and they keep chipping away at the system bit by bit until one day the entire foundation succumbs and our freedoms completely crumble.
We are witnessing multiple enablers of the destruction of our liberties that are perpetually forced upon our senses in very emotional ways, for maximum effect - ISIS, Ebola and the 'existential communist threat' of Russia. I don't see our population of unaware, selfish and divided citizens standing a chance of staving off the culmination of the grand plan because when it happens, circumstances will be ideal and most will be properly conditioned to accept without putting up too much opposition.
Tragically, that is the way it looks to me too, nightwish: "I don't see our population of unaware, selfish and divided citizens standing a chance of staving off the culmination of the grand plan ..."
It is typically the case that most people want to have that "grand plan" explained to them in 30 seconds or less, while any analysis that has more meat than that will not be followed through.
Radical:
You might something to say, but you've made it such a tedious read that I just can't get through it.
Q: Being the skeptical sort when the Magician says "Look over HERE!", I have to ask...
Any reason at all that the US Forces in Ebolistan are being used for other Black Ops, while using Ebola as a Cover and Distraction? Any Oil Drilling/Pumping/Platform/Transport issues? Any PM issues? Drug Cartel issues? Going after Chinese assets? Anyone?
Visa applications denied?
Why so soon?
The horse has bolted and we haven't even got a real gate.
"While the Obama administration continues its schizophrenic approach... ...a ban on travel from west Africa is considered out of the question"
Would such a kid gloves, indulgent policy be applied to, say Iceland (if it were in the position of W. Africa)? I doubt it. W. Africa is getting special treatment that places the freedom of their peoples to enter the US above the safety of US citizens. This Commander in Chief does not seem to have his priorities in order.
This is why our Constitution demands that our presidents be born in the US (not Kenya or some such place), and that their loyalty to the Unitied States of America be beyond question.
Why is this president not being IMPEACHED? Why is no one even calling for impeachment?
Who really knows what this is all about?
Maybe the policy planners want the U.S. to out-nice the Chinese because we can't ourspend them in the quest for the new colonization of Africa.
If the U.S. helps stop Ebola in W. Africa, maybe it will win back some lost goodwill.
Just a wild guess. There's no telling WTF is going on in the hare brains of Washington.
Ebola cases are supposedly on the decline in Liberia. Executive order amnesty is going to kill us instead.
It seems to advance in waves, which gives temporary respites, and plenty of conflicting reports.
I hate the UN, but the WHO has had the least awful info on this. They are talking about actually reducing the rate of new infections in 6-12 months IF ALL GOES WELL. By then, most of Africa will be toast.
They claim to have empty hospital beds and fewer burials in the western part of Liberia, right now. WHO is quoted in these articles, but it's hard to know without being there....and who the hell wants to be there?
http://fluboard.rhizalabs.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=12840
There's an interesting take on this from some of the English language Liberian newspapers I read yesterday.
They are saying that the reason that the infection rate is going down in Liberia is because Liberians are finally heeding the warnings about safe burials and touching bodies, that the education program is having an effect in the rural areas which have been hit hard.
We will know if they are right within a few weeks I guess.
http://www.liberianobserver.com/
6-12 months, they may want to recheck the math. In 2-3 months this outbreak will be beyond anyone’s control.
"They are talking about actually reducing the rate of new infections in 6-12 months IF ALL GOES WELL."
Assuming the R0 stays at its current average of 2.1 (for Africa, and ebola does not get a beachhead outside West Africa).
6 Months from now is about 500,000 cases and 16 days later 70% of those are dead, CFR of 0.7 (for this out brake averaging at 70% fatal) 12 months is about 7,000,000 and I've rounded down. Beware that estimates too far down an expediential curve become a crap shoot as variables in the environment change over time. It will be bad. The virus will burn itself out when it can’t find enough new hosts to infect.
About f*ing time;
Does this include the USA?
Canada is just a nicer USA. So, no.
Canada needs a fence on their southern border.
No kidding. Tempted to flee there myself if I were single. Hmmmm seasonal affective disorder or blood pouring out all orifices? Tough choice.
Miffed
and the US needs machine gun nests on the Rio Grand.
"Canada needs a fence on their southern border."
I don't think Canada will be as accommodating to the US 'currency war' draft dodgers as they were when the Vietnam war was raging.
And let there be no mistake about it, there will be a shooting war to back up the currency war.
Canada is already irreversibly integrated into the USA.
It's clearly a racism...
I wanted to run in Big Appel's Ebolathon but my stick-in-the-mud Mom said, "No!"
Canadians can do this because they're not trying to push amnesty for 20 million illegal foreign freuitpicking refugees.
Maybe if this Cali drought continues there will be no fruit to pick. Oh yeah, I forgot they just get all the juicy benefits here and vote to keep them so why go home. My job is to row the oars until I die.
Miffed
We keep you aboard to serve this ship. Row well, and live.
hey Canucks - Stop making sense!
Yeah, you're making Flounder and Freiden look bad.
AIPAC will hear about this.
Australia, Canadians and US Arm Forces have their shit together. Go figure!
Bad news for the GTA condo market.
Shit .
See
http://andreswhy.blogspot.com/2014/10/ebola-and-insurance.html
Surely humans can do better ?
I suppose fortification of the US-Canada border will follow .
Not following links tonight, but...
- It is said that it take $500,000 dollars to stay in a hospital in the USA for 21 days
- Who is it in the Federal Government that cares if we pay $500,000???
- Are Illegals going to have to pay $500,000?? I don't think so.
- US Elites in US Congress & CDC & HHS & other Agencies think all US Citizens have Health Care and can afford Ebola when they have ACA, Obama Care, but they don't think this shit out
- 90% of US Citizens will be Bankrupt from Ebola Stay in US Hospital
- Ebola is a disease of the 1%, where 99% lose their Savings, Go Bankrupt, become debt Slaves, and are trapped into a banking Scheme
- Signed a US Sovereign Citizen, not a US Voter
Researchers working through Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth are planning a lawsuit that will target the release all of the records gathered during the investigation of the September 11th attacks. David Cole, one of the leading researchers, was told by the agencies that the number of documents, images and other items totals nearly 500,000 records that would provide critical new insight into discrepancies with the official report. The records include most of the evidence collected by NIST, FEMA and various contractors, as some is unavailable for various reasons. Cole has suspicions the real total may be far higher than half a million.
Read more
http://wtfrly.com/2014/11/01/ae-911-truth-researchers-plan-lawsuit-seek-...
Yeah, WTFRLY, that will be interesting, IF any progress is made. Personally, I think that one MUST understand that the events on 9/11/2001 were certainly some sort of inside job, false flag attack (probably done by Zionists, in order to blame on Muslims) in order to understand the "war on terror" as a deliberately designed self-fulfilling prophesy. (See my other reply above, regarding the bigger picture that I perceive.)
I think that one could NOT understand the financial crises in 2008 unless one regards them as also being inside jobs, that fit into the bigger picture, which also indicates that the development and deployment of bioweapons most probably takes some form of various inside job, false flag attacks too. UNDERSTAND MORE 9/11 TRUTH IS RELEVANT TO THINKING ABOUT THE THREATS OF EPIDEMICS!
How do you or we get Justices that feel outrage about 9-11 to take the venue or lawsuit in their court?
- Presumably there are some Justices that feel outrage at 9-11
- Presumably there are justices that want justice and face voters to keep their jobs
18 U.S. Code Chapter 115 - TREASON, SEDITION, AND SUBVERSIVE ACTIVITIES
§?2381. Treason
§?2382. Misprision of treason
§?2383. Rebellion or insurrection
§?2384. Seditious conspiracy
§?2385. Advocating overthrow of Government
§?2386. Registration of certain organizations
"Oh, Canada!" At least one country in this wasteland of a hemisphere has "common sense." Too bad our gubmint doesn't. They're looking at population control for which they won't be blamed. Close the airports to west African entries and the goddamned southern border!
Many still think that this Ebola BS is real. What they are going to find out later is that the pols and crats have turned inbound travel restrictions, that they got the sheeple to scream for, turned into outbound travel restrictions--"Never waste a crisis." Especially a false one.
Watch for it.
An American, not US subject.
"Sorry, you can only travel to Cuba and North Korea; with our permission. The rest of the world doesn't have the correct Ebola protocols, so we cannot allow you to travel there. Now get back to producing and paying for us."
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Canada's also about to suspend any semblance of freedom left as well based on yet another false flag
Yeah, Fuku Ben, the government of Canada is proposing new laws that will make condoning terrorism a crime. (Of course, I regard the government of Canada as the biggest terrorists operating in that territory, and so, I already do not approve of them!)
That's much better RM.
You get long-winded sometimes.
Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper is a lackey of zion.
That's so racist. Good thing America isn't racist.
wait wait wait wait wait.....Isn't the US an 'ebola affected nation'?
Tyler, you trying to tell us that Stephen Harper's Cons won't be accepting visa applications from Texans? Pull the other one.
Don't get me wrong, I could see them hyping that line as an excuse to refuse looking at an app. to enter the country if it was from someone like Marc Emery (an already, actual Cdn. citizen extradited to the US as a political prisoner), but say Conrad Black (a Cdn citizenship renouncer and convicted criminal) needed to get back into Canuckistan from the US, you seriously suggesting ol' Stevie would deny a fellow Bilderberger (at least rear) entry?
I'm not buyin' it.
Canada will do this? I thought they were a bitch for obama
No, Harper and Obama are sister bitches for the banks and MIC.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/oct/31/rusty-humphries-liberal-bully-week-nurse-kaci-hick/ Liberal Bully of the Week: Nurse Kaci Hickox