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Warning: Avoid This Corrupt, Third-World Country At All Costs

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Submitted by Simon Black via Sovereign Man blog,

John Anderson, an American tourist from San Clemente, California, was driving down a poorly-maintained highway when he saw flashing lights in his rearview mirror.

 

After a brief exchange with the local police officer, Anderson was shocked when the cop started searching his vehicle.

 

Anderson had $25,180 in US dollar cash in the car, which by the way was not a crime according to the local laws.

 

When the cop saw it, he told Anderson that we would take it and threatened him with arrest if he protested.

 

Anderson couldn’t believe it. This is the sort of stuff you always hear about in these third world countries—corrupt cops and state robbery.

 

Ultimately Anderson gave in; the cop let him go and did not charge him with a crime, but took every last penny in the vehicle.

 

And for the last two years, Anderson has been trying to unsuccessfully fight it in the country’s Kangaroo court system.

Clearly we should all avoid going to such dangerously corrupt third world countries.

Except in this case, Anderson was in the United States of America. And he is far from being the only victim of this highway robbery known as Civil Asset Forfeiture.

Since 9/11, police forces in the Land of the Free made over 62,000 seizures without charging anyone with any crime, stealing $2.5 billion in cash alone.

The cost of taking legal action against the government is so high, that only about 17% of the victims actually challenged the seizures.

And even then, only 41% of those that challenged have been able to get their money back.

This means that the government has a better than 93% success rate in outright theft.

This is worse than mafia—it’s blatant theft with impunity from the people that are sworn to protect and serve. It’s the kind of thing that is thought to only occur in heinously corrupt countries.

Here’s the good news: many people are waking up to the reality that they’re not living in a free country.

They are starting to understand what I call ‘the criminalization of existence.’

Every last detail of our lives is regulated—what we can/cannot put in our bodies, whether we can collect rainwater or unplug from the grid, how we are allowed to educate our own children, etc.

Driving this point home, a Tennessee woman was actually thrown in jail earlier this month for ignoring a city citation to trim some overgrown bushes in her yard.

This isn’t freedom.

The irony is that, even though many people are starting to realize this, they’re looking to the very institution that has enslaved them to solve the problem.

It is their own government that has created this system.

 

It is the government that passed US Code section 983 (Rules for Civil Forfeiture), allowing the police to commit highway robbery.

 

It is the government that continues to arrogantly, brazenly spy on every citizen despite overwhelming public outcry.

 

It is the government that continues to bring forth new regulation at an absolutely astounding rate.

Just today (this is 100% true), the US federal government published an eye-popping 490 pages of new rules, proposals, and regulatory notices.

To give you a little taste, today’s regulations include:

  • Stringent requirements for properly handling spearmint oil;
  • New tolerance specifications for a-alkyl-w-hydroxypoly sulfate
  • Additional powers awarded to the Department of Education to decide “whether certain postsecondary educational programs prepare students for gainful employment.”
  • A decision to centrally manage the 2014 ‘total allowable catch of Pacific Cod’ in the Bering Sea.

There’s even a new rule upholding fines for unauthorized playing of digital recordings.

You can’t make this stuff up—they are regulating nearly everything.

It’s government that does this. They are the problem, not the solution.

Looking to government to solve the problem that they themselves created is completely irrational. They are incapable of righting themselves.

The solution – the power – is with the individual.

All the tools and all the resources to distance yourself from this system already exist.

On one hand, there’s always the possibility of leaving. The American Dream is still alive and well… it’s just no longer in the United States. Not to mention all the financial, business, investment, and lifestyle opportunities for the taking.

But even if you stay, there are dozens of ways to take back your freedom.

For example, why hold 100% of your savings and assets in that jurisdiction when they could easily confiscate everything?

There are so many great, safe jurisdictions in the world to bank, to invest, to own property, and to store assets. And you can set all of this up without leaving town.

The solutions are out there. It’s time to consider them before becoming a statistic.

P.S. Here’s more proof that the official inflation numbers are completely phony… yet another market that has reached an all time high.

 

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Sun, 11/02/2014 - 15:28 | 5404467 JohninMK
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Wiki edited away from uncomfortable truths??? Impossible

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 09:21 | 5403608 Martian Moon
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Markus Wolf, name rings a bell

Wasn't he hired by Homeland Security

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/december2004/061204wolfhired.htm

 

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 17:15 | 5402211 roadhazard
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"...and Obama can imprison you for life".

 

And Hitlery or Jeb BushCo. Thank you Congress.

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 17:21 | 5402234 Rememberweimar
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Parasite Obolinite to meet with Federal Jew Reserve Counterfeiters on Monday to discuss ways of stealing what little we the people have left away from us for good...
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/10/31/us-usa-fed-obama-yellen-idUSKB...

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 18:57 | 5402455 COSMOS
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Bingo, with control over the tap of dollars and lack of transparency, the J Mafia has been buying up this country with free money for the past few decades.

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 21:28 | 5402830 Rememberweimar
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Their trickery dates back thousands of years, back to the Bronze Age

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 22:26 | 5402958 Escrava Isaura
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Not sure about the Bronze age but forfeiture sparked the American Revolution against the British Crown.

 

It sparked a revolution? Uhmm.

 

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 12:31 | 5404021 Borrow Owl
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Is there an app for that?

 

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 04:20 | 5403360 LikeyMikey
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Seriously...  these are President Bush's laws under the Patriot Act...  You guys all know the one that the current Progressive in charge said was bad and he would repeal?   This is not a republican or dumocrat issue but it is a Progressive issue... there is littel difference between the two parties these days... a few outlyers but no major difference in actions.... 

This is still going on to the tunes of BILLIONS OF DOLLARS and is happening everyday by all levels of law enforcement in the United States Banana Republic....

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kEpZWGgJks

 

 

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 17:19 | 5402227 Dugald
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I just don't get it, you guys shoot Presidents with impunity yet fail to shoot a thieving cop....

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 17:47 | 5402291 Stoploss
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That's because the CIA doesn't get involved with trivial things like cop theft.

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 18:12 | 5402349 Mr Pink
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Conspiracy theorist!!!

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 04:43 | 5403377 LikeyMikey
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what makes you so sure they don't?   A lot of evidence suggest they have their hands in many things at all levels in the United Banana Republic of America...

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 18:55 | 5402447 FeralSerf
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The thieving cop is on their side. The assassinated president wasn't.

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 19:29 | 5402528 DanDaley
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"Fear is pain arising from the anticipation of evil." - Aristotle

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 17:13 | 5402199 Sudden Debt
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When I was a kid, in school we where tought that everything American was great. Everybody wanted to live there!
Now? Not so much anymore....
Now when we see something stupid, we say "it's American" to justify it.
Since the iron curtain fell, America started it's meltdown to what it is now and it's not even halfway.

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 17:20 | 5402230 kowalli
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USA was trying to be better than USSR... USA wasn't trying to just be good and wealthy country

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 17:33 | 5402259 debtor of last ...
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America didn't start it's meltdown.

We have a fucking KFC in the Netherlands. It's a sad corporate poisonous bad taste whore house.

Greed and corporate profits fucked up America. Just like the rest of the world.

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 17:34 | 5402260 Motorhead
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Even the beer, Sudden Debt?  No way!

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 17:52 | 5402298 Raoul_Luke
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More like since Nixon took us off the gold standard, America started its meltdown...

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 21:30 | 5402835 Rememberweimar
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More like it started in 1913 when the Jew Federal Reserve stole the money printing press from we the people...

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 23:56 | 5403113 Trucker Glock
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America began its meltdown on June 21 1788, when New Hampshire became the 9th State to ratify the Constitution. 

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 00:43 | 5403185 Trucker Glock
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Federalist junker.  Where's Aaron Burr when you need him?

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 18:22 | 5402378 cherry picker
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When I wa young I wanted to be an American.  I guess God saved me.  I lived in Southern CA for years.  Left for Mexico and am now in Canada.  Haven't missed the USA one bit.

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 17:14 | 5402208 VWAndy
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Any oathkeepers want to chime in?

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 18:40 | 5402416 RaceToTheBottom
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I wonder are there any regular commenters here who have given up US citizenship?  In the process?

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 21:32 | 5402842 Rememberweimar
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I been a ZH fan for about ten years, living in a foreign country now for about 25 years...

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 22:21 | 5402944 August
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I may throw the switch and dump US citizenship in early 2015. 

For me, though (at age 64), retaining or keeping US citizenship is basically a wash: some advantages, some disadvantages.  In my particular situation, I would lose ALL Social Security retirement benefits;  while I don't really need the money, the $20K a year that I'd get would at least cover the cost of FATCA compliance.

If you're going to leave Uncle Sugar in the rearview mirror, the earlier in life you do it, the better.  At this point, the big attraction for me is that of never again seeing another US government form;  that, and I would somehow just feel cleaner.

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 00:44 | 5403186 RaceToTheBottom
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Thanks for the reply.  I am still exploring and thinking it through.  I guess for me the first step would be the dual citizenship, which tied to my father, would be valued regardless if I went further.

 

thanks again.

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 01:14 | 5403225 SAT 800
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It was widely reported that when the successful invading forces were working their way down the Italian peninsula towards Rome; the farmers and small holders would point down the road, and tell them to be sure and kill all of them. A supposed quote from that time is; "I do't care what happens to me in this life, as long as i never have to listen to another crazy proclamation by a political leader in Rome".

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 01:20 | 5403230 SAT 800
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If you just move abroad and live on a visitors visa; you can keep your social security; they send social security all over the world. thousands and thousands of Americans live in Mexico and get Social Security. You just hve to renew your visa every six months and your pasport every ten years, or whatever it is. Uruguay  is even nicer than Mexico; and spanish is an easy language to learn; it just has simple grammar rules and straightforward pronunciation; English is a nightmare compared to Spanish. Look up Uruaguay on Wikipedia or someplace. it's very free and law abiding and people have a good economy.

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 17:16 | 5402212 The Shape
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And yet we're meant to shed a tear when someone pops a cop.

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 17:38 | 5402268 Ban KKiller
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Two Santa Fe deputies drink and one kills the other. Funeral today, you would have thought a king had died. It was quite gross...even three helicopters!

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 20:29 | 5402693 Lostinfortwalton
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They were ALL on the clock pulling down regular pay or overtime pay. Like the New York City firefighters and police did for months and months after 9/11. Milk the system to the utmost.

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 21:32 | 5402846 Rememberweimar
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Parasites... Protecting and serving their parasite masters...

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 17:56 | 5402310 sun tzu
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In most states, it's legal to use deadly force when someone is trying to rob you. I would say a person with a gun that stops you on the side of the road and demands that you turn over all of your money is a robber. 

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 18:15 | 5402358 Mr Pink
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This is why everyone needs a gopro in their car

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 18:56 | 5402419 RaceToTheBottom
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Russian citizens have really benefited from doing exactly that.  With their insurance fraud and corrupt police and all.  I am definitely thinking of it.

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 18:58 | 5402459 COSMOS
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The will just steal your gopro too

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 19:31 | 5402534 RaceToTheBottom
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Good point.  Go Pro Incognito!

 

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 20:47 | 5402739 willwork4food
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I got a dashcam a year ago and it has made my ride so much more relaxing and less stressfull. There are professional accident staggeers out there and I've run across a few. Now when someone pulls in front of me abruptly without signals, I don't get mad. I got them covered.

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 21:33 | 5402850 Rememberweimar
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This is why everyone needs hand grenades in their car...

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 01:12 | 5403222 Kirk2NCC1701
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Lest they take the SD memory card, any makes/models that stream to the Cloud via your smart phone, or stealth-store it to the smartphone?

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 18:16 | 5402362 BlindMonkey
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Yeah. That may be the idea but in practice you will be hunted like Frein. I am frankly very surprised that he wasn't shot going after one of the arresting officers' guns. That was how I was expecting it to go down.

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 19:41 | 5402564 kchrisc
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For all those sad for the dead and injured PA State gun and badge thugs, look what some PA State thugs did to Robert Leone who led them on a slow-speed pursuit:

This photo is after he has been beat and tazed on 5 different times at 4 different locations; they dragged him around and pounded on him during the course of the night:

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/07/05/article-2169051-13EEB71F000005...

The article and video: http://www.policestateusa.com/2014/robert-leone/

And they call Frein a coward. The biggest cowards I know of hide behind a badge.

An American, not US subject.

 

"Yes officer, you win this battle, but then when I get out..."

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 19:07 | 5402480 FeralSerf
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Castle doctrine:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castle_Doctrine_in_the_United_States

Indiana IC 35-41-3-2 No duty to retreat from dwelling, curtilage, or occupied motor vehicle. In 2012, Mitch Daniels signed an amendment into law allowing lethal force against police officers.[22]

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 17:18 | 5402221 limacon
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You have the vote .

You deserve the government you have .

"Everything not allowed is forbidden"

 

Your ancestors would spit on you .

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 17:43 | 5402281 Stoploss
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"You have the vote ."

We have Diebold... They count the votes..

"You deserve the government you have ."

See above.

"Your ancestors would spit on you ."

They did not have Diebold to count their votes...

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 21:53 | 5402899 usednabused
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We have the vote for what? One lieing piece of shit vs another lieing piece of shit? Buddy, shut the fuck up if you don't really understand how it works here. Nothing in govt. goes by the constitution and even at the lowest levels you have to be vetted, as in totally submissive to the govt schemers. It gets worse at the state and national levels. Why do you think Obola is a direct clone of Bushy? Its because they work for the same clique and if Rumney would have been in it wouldnt have been any different. Now get off your fat lazy ass and go vote dumass. Then see what changes for you. lol

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 17:20 | 5402231 Rememberweimar
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Parasite Obolinite to meet with Federal Jew Reserve Counterfeiters on Monday to discuss ways of stealing what little we the people have left away from us for good...
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/10/31/us-usa-fed-obama-yellen-idUSKB...

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 19:00 | 5402461 COSMOS
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Dont know why you getting downvoted for speaking the truth.

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 21:37 | 5402859 Rememberweimar
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Chosenites hate the truth. They are also the ones doing the trolling on the internetz...

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 22:22 | 5402949 rejected
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Sat, 11/01/2014 - 17:24 | 5402237 socalbeach
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Apparently this happened in Seward County, Nebraska.

http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nation/2014/09/13/police-seizures-cash-r...

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 17:23 | 5402238 Spaulding 3.0
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He's crossing the country so he can pick up some drugs in colorado or cali, flip it back home but like most who can't claim that cash he walks away .......

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 21:07 | 5402782 bunnyswanson
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This is California.  Many wealthy people live here.  In the 1970s, my husband (RIP) was stopped for DUI.  He had a couple grand in his wallet that he never saw again.  He always kept 1-2 thousand dollars in his wallet because you could get better deals with cash in hand and he was one of those who had the money to do it.  He was always negotiating the price of anything, from milk to a new car, and money talks.

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 17:23 | 5402239 lasvegaspersona
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As long as the US government can borrow and spend without limit it will be able to ignore the voters. If you do not need to tax you do not need to ask.

As long as the dollar is the world's reserve currency the US government will be able to borrow and spend.

Moral to the story...only the (former?) godless commies can save us.

Expect quite the change when government stooges  go unpaid. Some will go quietly some will try to do a shakedown on the rest of the population. From what I'm seeing that won't go well.

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 17:29 | 5402252 Kirk2NCC1701
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Sooner or later "Folks" will have to travel in Convoys, to protect themselves from the Sheriff of Nottingham.

If one gets pulled over, they ALL pull over and have a CALM discussion with this Officer of the "Law":  "We're not gonna hurt each other, are we, and we're gonna talk real polite and civil -- right?"

Then see if this little piss-ant with a badge still feels cocky, high and mighty.

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 17:36 | 5402266 RockyRacoon
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It's interesting that your proposal actually sounds rational.  Such a thing should be laughable -- but it's not.

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 17:58 | 5402313 therover
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Good idea. Any time one has a lot of cash on them, they should think about calling up a few friends to follow for the ride.

EIther that or if you feel you are high risk with all that loot, convert to gold coins and hide them in differnt spots in the car. May take a loss on the premiums on both ends, but at least you will have 75-80% of your loot versus nothing. 

Bottom line is the police who do this are total scum bags. 

 

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 18:08 | 5402337 TeethVillage88s
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There is an old story and maybe two versions.

Border Reivers were raiders along the Anglo–Scottish border from the late 13th century to the beginning of the 17th century. Their ranks consisted of both Scottish and English families, and they raided the entire border country without regard to their victims' nationality. Their heyday was perhaps in the last hundred years of their existence, during the time of the Stewart Kings in Scotland and the Tudor Dynasty in England.

First version I heard was Reivers would rob the Wealthy, only the Wealthy.

But think about it. Poor people would only have clothes, land to farm, farm animals... anyone traveling through Reiver Country would clearly either be poor, have a large farming or sheep raising operation,... or be Wealthy.

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 18:14 | 5402357 Reaper
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It's just a shortening of the name and mission, Highway Patrol, to highwaymen. The police by law can lie to you, but you cannot lie to the police. That's their rules. Your rules are survival and protecting your cache in the jungle. The error is to believe honesty with the police will be rewarded or there might be justice in the courts.

Beware the police, the courts, lawyers, or any government as the thieves they are.

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 21:24 | 5402824 YHC-FTSE
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Is this serious? Well, I guess it will be the last time I visit the 'States to see my cousins.

I was thinking that if this had happened at home (UK), where I was given a choice between arrest and handing over my money, I would let myself be arrested. It would then be a very simple case of bringing charges against the arresting officer for,

  • false arrest
  • false imprisonment
  • extortion

Surely it would work the same over in the US? I just can't believe any justice system would allow this to happen. How can anyone possibly live in a country like this?

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 00:09 | 5403133 homiegot
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2.5 billion since 9/11.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/investigative/2014/09/06/stop-and-seize/

 

 

American Express. Don't leave home without it.

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 21:38 | 5402865 Rememberweimar
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Road Warriors...

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 21:44 | 5402874 TeethVillage88s
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Reivers.

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 17:35 | 5402262 are we there yet
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The world we live in is very different than when I was a kid. I think our intelligence agencies do the best they can at providing good intelligence to stupid and corrupt politicians. Our countries problem is that our political leaders are beholden puppets of banks and financials, and that gov is too large a part of our economy.

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 19:55 | 5402600 Binko
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Lol, you're talking about our intelligence agencies that want 100 billion a year in order to collect and store literally every phone call, text message, web page etc that is generated in America? That's what you call "providing good intelligence"?

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 21:49 | 5402883 Rememberweimar
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I hate to be the one to tell you this, but our Military leaders that are in charge of our Nuclear Bombs are the ones in charge here... They control the CIA, the Media, the puppet politicians, the Congress, the Federal Reserve Counterfeiters, Wall Street...

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 22:52 | 5403017 Escrava Isaura
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are we there yet

Sorry to say it, but the kid on you never left your brain

 

“You just can’t reach or teach the willingly ignorant”FunnelFan, at Peak Oil Barrel

 


Sun, 11/02/2014 - 00:12 | 5403140 Manic by Proxy
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Have you tried coherency?

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 09:55 | 5403660 GetZeeGold
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Baby steps.....don't rush it.

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 10:03 | 5403676 Escrava Isaura
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Manic by Proxy

are we there yet wrote: The world we live in is very different than when I was a kid.

 

No, it's not different! The only difference is that the people that blog (and people that read) realized it. Understand it now. That’s all.

 

Second: America is functioning exactly like it is supposed to function. If I can borrow James Madison -- who was the main framer, and one of the Founding Lawyers who was most libertarian -- makes it very clear that the new constitutional system must be designed so as to insure that the government will, in his words "protect the minority of the opulent against the majority" and bar the way to anything like agrarian reform.

 

Third: America hasn't been a Republic since the creation of the senate by our “Founding Lawyers”, in 1789.

 

 

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 17:34 | 5402264 Karlus
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I think you go ahead and get the officer to charge and arrest you at that point. Otherwise it does look like you forfeit the money.

 

But yeah, cops see any money they are told to grab it first and see about if the owner can get it back later. It quite literally gets deposited in the local cops account. $25K gets a nice Taurus patrol car or pays for some salary

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 19:58 | 5402610 Binko
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That makes no sense. How in the world does it look like you forfeit the money if the cop does not arrest you? No arrest means no crime means no grounds for seizing anything at all. It's as if the cop just walked up to your front yard and took your lawnmower.

If you raise a stink and get arrested the cop has at least a flimsy excuse for seizing your vehicle and whatever is in it. 

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 21:47 | 5402882 Freddie
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Either one is a lose lose.  The local court will side with the police.  The money is stolen for the benefit oif the city and the cops pension plan.

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 12:57 | 5404091 Borrow Owl
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It's government. Not making sense is one of the few thngs it does well.

The way it works is that the stolen property (cash, cars, whatever) itself is charged with a crime.

 

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 17:39 | 5402271 gwar5
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Until this changes be prepared, play defense. Don't let cops search your car without a warrent. If you have to carry cash keep it secreted. The more cops confiscate the more they'll continue this behavior. Be smart, don't make it easy. Trust noone.

 

 

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 18:01 | 5402322 falak pema
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trust noon day sun and mad dogs ! Thats what Noel Coward said. Don't trust Englishmen! 

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 18:38 | 5402413 kaiserhoff
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Kipling, Noel Coward set it to music.

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 17:46 | 5402273 falak pema
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no no no, Reagan didn't want that to happen nor did Terminator!

So who made San Clemente into an alligator park? 

Must be those Commies, oups, those liberal Oligarchs who run the US of A! 

Terrible, when you can't tell a commie from an Oligarch !

Ole Joe McCarthy would have such a tuff time today  making out his list of "The unwanted" in front of the House of UnAmerican activities. 

Thats the worst part of current political USA : you can't tell who is a  commie from a good American, the guys who love their country to the point of getting into bed with a turbaned Oil king! Or to drilling holes in their lands until its bubbling like Hell on earth. 

Man I'm so confused! 

I need a libertarian to show me the way!

Maybe Von Mises will light me a candle to Jerusalem. Then I'll be back to seeing a true Crusader from a dark heathen ! 

Oh for the simple life, when a monk could preach a sermon and then cut off a head as Templar. Now thats what the CIA always said : we are soldiers and monks spreading American compassionate magnanmity to the world blessed by capitalism and free markets with a "touch of evil democracy" to keep the natives happy!  

 

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 23:04 | 5403036 Escrava Isaura
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I need a libertarian to show me the way… with a candle!

LMAO.

 

Now that’s great.

 

“One of the most pathetic aspects of human history is that every civilization expresses itself most pretentiously, compounds its partial and universal values most convincingly, and claims immortality for its finite existence at the very moment when the decay which leads to death has already begun.” -- Reinhold Niebuhr

 

 

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 17:41 | 5402276 WTFUD
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Du'h! How are the POSLEAZE supposed to make a living when cannabis is legal in some states?

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 17:47 | 5402292 Raoul_Luke
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Exactly how is this particular example all that different from Barack Obama's "you didn't build that" agenda?

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 18:22 | 5402373 Emergency Ward
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It's modern Law Enforcement's way of saying, "You didn't earn that, so give it to me!"

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 22:06 | 5402925 usednabused
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Exactly, and how did they earn it? With a piece of tin for a badge and a gun behind it? Oh and a $3000 pig costume? Maybe a lesson in there somewhere...

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 17:53 | 5402297 justmy2cents
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Let's not forget the U.S tax code is now 13 miles long, yikes!!!!

Hidden amongst that 13 miles of paper is a way to arse rape anybody.

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 18:04 | 5402330 robnume
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There is nothing lower than a fucking PIG being able to literally steal money from you and your family. What a disgusting, illegitimate country we live in. CONgress and the other two branches of this fascist nation should be publicly tarred and feathered. I'll be the first to volunteer to perform that service.

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 21:51 | 5402890 yrbmegr
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That "pig" does not report to any federal authority.  Congress and the "other two branches of this fascist nation" have nothing to do with local police stealing from citizens.

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 00:11 | 5403137 Trucker Glock
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Actually, one of the branches has something to do with it - the Judicial branch.  Supreme Court gave the okay to civil asset forfeiture. 

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 18:05 | 5402331 Bumbu Sauce
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Amendment 4 defended by Amerndments 1 and 2

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 20:57 | 5402756 talisman
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ROFLMAO

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 21:29 | 5402837 Bumbu Sauce
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Sad state of affairs that cynicism is the norm now.  What a tremndous fall.  And we are nowhere near the bottom yet.

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 10:49 | 5402367 Emergency Ward
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Gives a new meaning to Driving While Loaded.

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 18:37 | 5402405 shouldvekilledthem
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Bitcoin users are not affected.

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 18:39 | 5402414 Bunga Bunga
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Cops can make you unlock your smartphone with fingerprint, says judge

...Virginia Beach Circuit Court Judge Steven Frucci ruled that a criminal defendant can be compelled to give up his fingerprint and unlock his cellphone in the course of a criminal investigation — because that's just like handing in a DNA sample or a physical key, which citizens can already be legally compelled to give to police.

On the other hand, police can't force a defendant to give up his passcode, because that's considered "knowledge" — not a physical object — and knowledge is protected by the Fifth Amendment....

http://mashable.com/2014/10/30/cops-can-force-you-to-unlock-phone-with-f...

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 22:29 | 5402968 BigJim
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Fuck me. Are ALL of these guys Talmudists?

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 00:15 | 5403145 Trucker Glock
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Interesting.  I read or heard about this concern back when the first iPhone with fingerprint lock was released.  Legal types warned of this exact scenario.

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 00:44 | 5403184 Proofreder
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Yes, but which finger ???

I use the one next to my index finger - with an iPhone, a number of incorrect attempts at using fingerprint recognition locks the phone.

Of course, if one forgets which finger or thumb is the correct one ...

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 00:47 | 5403191 Trucker Glock
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Clever tactic to lock the fuckers out.

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 18:43 | 5402421 Yen Cross
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 I would have let the steroid infused "Popeye" arrest me.

  As a matter of fact, I would have let myself into his "chariot of fire".

   $26k is chump change. That cash would be considered a  Glenn Greenwald expense account.

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 18:48 | 5402431 RaceToTheBottom
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I don't normally travel with large cash amounts, but given our path, I could see myself traveling with a large stash of PMs to the border under some scenarios and BAM, all your PMs are confiscated.

 

All Statists already believe PMs are only gathered by evil people even now, much less when it hits the fan...

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 22:15 | 5402935 shovelhead
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Rent a motor home. Drive for a few days eating at Taco Bells 3-4x a day. Drop PM's in the BM's.

Drive across border.

Ain't nobody gettin near that tank full of Taco Bell.

Yo Quiro Taco Bell.

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 18:54 | 5402446 Yen Cross
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  I guess those public  indentured servant pension funds are feeling the effects of ZIRP economics.

 It's only going to get worse for the Law Enfarcement Clowns.

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 19:01 | 5402467 Lmo Mutton
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"Any oathkeepers want to chime in?"
Did you mean oath breakers?

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 20:10 | 5402641 TeethVillage88s
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SOTU is made by an Oath Breaker Every Year in February, but sometimes it is a different face and voice.

Weekly and hourly earnings data from the Current Population Survey

Series Id: LEU0252881600

Series title: (unadj)- Constant (1982-84) dollar adjusted to CPI-U- Median usual weekly earnings, Employed full time, Wage and salary workers

Year Qtr1 Qtr2 Qtr3 Qtr4 Annual
1979 339 334 325 328 332
1980 324 314 315 317 318
1981 317 311 304 314 312
2012 337 335 329 336 335
2013 334 333 330 337 333
2014 339 328 332

Constant Dollars, Weekly Earning same in 1979 as 2014.

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 20:54 | 5402755 VWAndy
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Nope I was talking about all of um.

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 19:35 | 5402542 kchrisc
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Article 3, Section 3 of the Constitution states:

Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.

I am Witness One, and an American, not US subject.

 

"Please Mr. Officer, sign that treason form, I mean seizure report, with your name. Do you also live in the nearby community?"

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 20:21 | 5402674 TeethVillage88s
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DOJ, FBI, Eric Holder seem to fall here:

18 U.S. Code § 2382 - Misprision of treason

Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States and having knowledge of the commission of any treason against them, conceals and does not, as soon as may be, disclose and make known the same to the President or to some judge of the United States, or to the governor or to some judge or justice of a particular State, is guilty of misprision of treason and shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than seven years, or both.

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And also here, DOJ, FBI, Eric Holder seem to fall here:

18 U.S. Code § 2384 - Seditious conspiracy

Current through Pub. L. 113-185. (See Public Laws for the current Congress.)

If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.

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18 U.S. Code § 2383 - Rebellion or insurrection

Current through Pub. L. 113-185. (See Public Laws for the current Congress.)

Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

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18 U.S. Code § 2385 - Advocating overthrow of Government

Whoever organizes or helps or attempts to organize any society, group, or assembly of persons who teach, advocate, or encourage the overthrow or destruction of any such government by force or violence; or becomes or is a member of, or affiliates with, any such society, group, or assembly of persons, knowing the purposes thereof—
Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.
If two or more persons conspire to commit any offense named in this section, each shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.

But I AM NOT a Lawyer, just a Citizen not a subject. Laws should be written to be understood by the common man at a reading level of 12 years old... not complicated by Lawyers who hope to make a career as a lawyer, tax lawyer, lobbyist, or as a politician.

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 21:16 | 5402808 kchrisc
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Good stuff. Also a great opportunity for "jamming." I.e. jamming the system with legitimate complaints, reports, etc.

Everyone reading this should on Monday go to a state or federal judge in driving distance and file complaints of treason against those known to have committed the offense:

Holder, Obama, Bush Jr., Reid, Cheney, the thugs that beat Leone and Kelly Thomas, the thugs at the Bundy ranch, Clinton, Janet Reno, Bremer, Wolfowitz, Bush Sr., Horiuchi, the James Boyd killing Albuquerque PD, most PDs in the DC US, Feinstein, Rumsfeld, etc.

The prisoners in the Soviet gulags used to do this to jam up the bureaucracy.

I'm going to start with Holder.

An American, not US subject.

 

18 U.S. Code § 2382 - Misprision of treason

Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States and having knowledge of the commission of any treason against them, conceals and does not, as soon as may be, disclose and make known the same to the President or to some judge of the United States, or to the governor or to some judge or justice of a particular State, is guilty of misprision of treason and shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than seven years, or both.

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 22:47 | 5403006 The Most Intere...
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Constitution?

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 00:40 | 5403177 Trucker Glock
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That's that piece of paper that was jammed down the States' throats by fear mongering Federalists.  Kinda like the Patriot Act.

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 19:50 | 5402588 Binko
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More than anything else the civil forfeiture scam demonstrates how easily people in power are morally corrupted. 

Not the officer seizing the cash, nor his sergeant, nor the precent leutenant, nor the captian, nor the district attorney, nor the state legislators are willing to simply stand by their oaths of office and call this out for being unconstitional and tyrannical and simply criminal. 

Most people have little moral fiber. They will do essentially anything if it benefits them and they have some easy system of rationalization at hand. That's why good men strive to build a binding legal system that enforces justice. But our legal system has been so corrupted by influence peddling, cronyism and overt destruction of legal principals that we have reached a point where almost anything goes. 

When officers of the state can simply seize your money on a whim an use it for their own purposes then you have crossed the line into tyranny. I think it's time for everybody in america to read the Declaration of Independence. Or has that been made a crime yet?

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 20:53 | 5402752 talisman
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[I think it's time for everybody in america to read the Declaration of Independence.]

Read it why?? To laugh?? To cry??  Americans have a pretty good idea what it says.... reading it again is a total waste of time, and does nothing to change the current corruption.

The Declaration of Independence, as well as the US Constitution
has become a total farce to be pulled out in lieu of a fig leaf.

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 19:51 | 5402591 Bumbu Sauce
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Get a load of this:  FBI shutting off your internet then posing as your ISP to "have a look around."

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/01/opinion/deceptions-of-the-fbi.html?_r=0

 

During the 2014 World Cup, the agents suspected that an illegal gambling ring was operating out of several hotel rooms at Caesar’s Palace in Las Vegas, but they apparently did not have enough evidence to get a court-issued warrant. So they enlisted the hotel’s assistance in shutting off the Internet to those rooms, prompting the rooms’ occupants to call for help. Undercover agents disguised as repairmen appeared at the door, and the occupants let them in. While pretending to fix the service, the agents saw men watching soccer matches and looking at betting odds on their computers.

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 20:07 | 5402630 TeethVillage88s
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nice.

Iowa Libertarian Candidate for US Senate Dies - ABC News

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/iowa-candidate-us-senate-dies-p...

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 22:45 | 5402999 The Most Intere...
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How is that nice?

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 13:13 | 5404144 Borrow Owl
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Ahh well... I suppose it's better than being suicided with a nail gun.

 

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 19:55 | 5402601 proLiberty
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One of the roots of such wasteful, foolish, thuggish, and tyrannous government is the ease with which it can create almost unlimited amounts of money out of thin air. Near-infinite money buys near-infinite government, and a bureaucracy that is generously funded can entertain an open-ended dream about how to expand its realm.

Every day more people are coming to the judgment that a carefully organized effort to repair the constitution via the States' power to propose and ratify amendments has less risk to our liberty and prosperity than the present trajectory of the federal government and especially the federal bureaucracy.

The first order of business of an Article V Convention must be to limit government's ability to create and spend near-infinite amounts of money.

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 20:28 | 5402684 q99x2
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You have to fight back. It might not last but you would feel important for a little while. Or you could do like I do and use bitcoin for most of your transactions.

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 00:02 | 5403125 homiegot
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I'll wait till it falls below $100 bucks. Ha ha ha ha ha ha!

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 21:01 | 5402767 gearbaby
Sat, 11/01/2014 - 21:12 | 5402791 Bumbu Sauce
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The company I worked for in Shitcago had several Ecuadorians employed.  What a tiny putrid race of morons.  No way in hell would I relocate to their homeland, that they all seem so eager to escape from.

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 21:11 | 5402792 Joebloinvestor
Sat, 11/01/2014 - 21:13 | 5402797 MassDecep
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If the money was legally obtained, i would have told him to pack sand. Pretty much over my dead body would he have taken that from me. I also would be packin with it readily available. 

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 01:30 | 5403241 cornedmutton
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We call this suicide by cop.

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 21:15 | 5402801 hangemhigh77
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That cop is a hero!  He's fighting "terrorism".  That money could have bought bombs for a "terrorist".  The cop saved us all.  Thank you pig.

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 21:17 | 5402807 TalkToLind
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Canadians already know this, they've been warned about holding large amounts of spending cash when travelling through the U.S.  This is news only to us U.S. sheep!  

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 21:22 | 5402819 NoWayJose
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If you are carrying $25K in cash, and have it in a place that a cop could see it, you are either making it up or are too foolish to be carrying that much cash. Cops do not search your car unless they see something, or unless you give the cop a reason to search. You should be able to stash it in a place that is safe from view or even a casual search.

If you are such a fool, you can still save your cash if you let yourself get arrested - the cops will have to log your personal possessions and that gives you a paper trail. Letting him drive off with your cash is your second mistake.

As others have posted, this law is more dangerous when TSHF and you are on the move. Whether cash or PMs, you and/or your car become easy to identify once you load up your supplies. Expect to have most of your stuff taken by cops. Bandits you can fight - cops with tanks and radios - not so much...

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 22:00 | 5402913 shovelhead
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"Cops do not search your car unless they see something, or unless you give the cop a reason to search."

You win the internet for best joke of the day.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 11:15 | 5403840 Uncle Remus
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Reason? I don't need no steekin' reason!

I have a badge.

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 22:04 | 5402922 Savyindallas
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How the hell do you know? 9 times out of 10, cops don't search unsuspicious citizens  -most of the time cops don't steal your money. Most of the time cops steal money when there is illegal activity -sometimes they steal from innocent people. Sometimes innocent people are stupid and leave large amounts of money in plain view. I was a prosecutor in both Dallas and New orleans for 9 years. I know there  are crooked cops  -a lot of them. Why would this guy sue if he were making this shit up? Much more likely he is telling the truth.

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 22:21 | 5402947 usednabused
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Oh big prosecuter, you said, "Most of the time cops steal money when there is illegal activity". Why you're absolutely right, that was illegal activity for the pigs to be stealing it, now wasn't it? And then a question for you, why didn't you have balls enough to throw those pigs in jail? I mean you did have the authority right? Or were those pigs part of your clique, and so leave them be, and fuck the citizens. Is that how it goes? Spineless assholes with govt jobs complete with big paychecks make me sick.

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 21:30 | 5402838 Karaio
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Shortly after I left the army I worked as security for a deceased woman d'German Prosthetic. 

Some of you here have seen a kilo of gold in hand? 

I saw! 

Ilse took a pound of gold and a car model Ford Corcel from almost golden color between São Paulo and Campinas. 

Just me, her, and a kilo of gold, my 7.65 pistol with two magazines. 

Her son had bought a house, the seller accepted gold as payment. 

Three-bedroom house, swimming pool, three bathrooms, a plot 12 feet front by 40 feet deep. 

A pound of gold. 

hehe. 

German friend that got so that when my oldest son was born, I gave the name of her deceased husband to my son, Hernani. 

Ilse was about 68 years old, I was 20, almost 21, my first wife was cleaning the house of Ilse and I had security. 

It was a good time .... 

:-)

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 21:38 | 5402864 Karaio
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Ebama helped and convinced my son will marry December 06 not to go to Disney. 

I paid them a stay in Fernando de Noronha. 

There, at least there is no risk of hurricanes or Ebola. 

hehe.

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 21:39 | 5402866 yrbmegr
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Excellent post.  Local governments around the country are stealing from ordinary citizens.  Therefore, federal regulation is out of control.  Pure logic is thrilling.

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 21:45 | 5402879 VWAndy
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Lois Learner?

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 21:49 | 5402889 Bumbu Sauce
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http://bearingarms.com/grenadewalker-inspector-general-reports-blasts-do...

 

Federal agents and prosecutors in Arizona made multiple errors in their investigation of a U.S. citizen who was suspected of smuggling grenade components to Mexico, including failing to arrest him when there was more than enough evidence to do so, the Justice Department watchdog said in a harshly critical report Thursday.

The inspector general’s report found parallels between the investigation into Jean Baptiste Kingery by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives and “Operation Fast and Furious,” an ATF gun-running operation along the Southwest border that relied on flawed tactics and became a political firestorm for the Justice Department. Those similarities include poor supervision, weak oversight and a failure “to take or insist on overt enforcement action against the subjects of the investigations.”

“Our reviews of both cases concluded that, in failing to act, they did not adequately consider the risk to public safety in the United States and Mexico created by the subjects’ illegal activities,” the report states.

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 21:51 | 5402895 shovelhead
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SUPPORT YOUR LOCAL POLICE

Hahaha. So funny.

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 21:52 | 5402897 Karaio
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Dollars less to spend, you will not see my money at the end of the year. 

With all my affection, you are screwed! 

Incidentally, I got a great deal to Moscow, now in winter, if all goes well I'll tell you about the operator. 

hehe.

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 22:15 | 5402936 adr
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They used to say there were ten good cops for every crooked one, I'd say that is reversed now.

I and my colleagues caught a traffic cop writing tickets for cars that were legally parked. Claiming the meters ran out. We confronted her and told her to tear up the tickets. In five minutes there were ten cops and a police Sargent there trying to arrest all of us for officer intimidation.

We were told if we thought she was doing something suspicious we should have installed a camera on the street.

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 22:21 | 5402945 pupdog1
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Hey Simon,

The fourth "W" in journalisn is where.

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 22:26 | 5402954 VW Nerd
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Expand this behavior to the global level and you get an idea of how the cia/state dept treat other weaker counries and we begin to understand why "terrorism" manifests itself.  It's doubtful foriegn insurgents go out and wage resistance just for the heck of it.

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 22:55 | 5403021 L Bean
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Very important and relevant comment. This is US FP exactly.

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 23:07 | 5403045 August
August's picture

Mr. Bush laid the out the facts some years ago: 

most foreigners just cant handle freedom.  And so, they hate Amurica.

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 22:34 | 5402974 bid the soldier...
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With all due respect for the victim, part of the story is missing.

 

Like a story in the NYT about how the separatists shot down MH17 and not the Ukrainians, but not a word about the ATC tapes that went missing as soon as the plane crashed.

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 22:35 | 5402976 the grateful un...
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i'm guessing this guy was caught at the border checkpoint on I5? i am pretty sure that 90% of the people caught with drugs at the checkpoint are pulled over on a tip off. this guy had cash, but something else is at play here. 10k is not much money, a good day at the indian casino.  

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 22:42 | 5402991 Sambo
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For a second I thought the article was about Canada...

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 02:11 | 5403270 Nobody Important
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I knew it was the good ol Police State of America the moment I saw the headline.

Sat, 11/01/2014 - 23:05 | 5403039 Smooth Criminal
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The police in this country are on another level of corruption, holy fuck.  Just a word of advice, if any members of ZH are in this position, I would highly advise forcing the cop to arrest you.  I know that sounds asinine and intimidating, but if you are arrested the money would then need to be placed into evidence and thus would be unable to be claimed as an asset forfeiture.  When you do go to court and the charges are dismissed (as they have nothing on you) the money will be immediately returned and you can then sue the department for wrongful arrest, false imprisonment, etc.  If you allow the cops to take the cash, you will never see it again.  Or, you will spend over $40k in legal fees to recoup $25K. 

Just a piece of advice from someone who has had more than his fair share of incidences with these Nazi fucks. 

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