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Warning: Avoid This Corrupt, Third-World Country At All Costs
Submitted by Simon Black via Sovereign Man blog,
John Anderson, an American tourist from San Clemente, California, was driving down a poorly-maintained highway when he saw flashing lights in his rearview mirror.
After a brief exchange with the local police officer, Anderson was shocked when the cop started searching his vehicle.
Anderson had $25,180 in US dollar cash in the car, which by the way was not a crime according to the local laws.
When the cop saw it, he told Anderson that we would take it and threatened him with arrest if he protested.
Anderson couldn’t believe it. This is the sort of stuff you always hear about in these third world countries—corrupt cops and state robbery.
Ultimately Anderson gave in; the cop let him go and did not charge him with a crime, but took every last penny in the vehicle.
And for the last two years, Anderson has been trying to unsuccessfully fight it in the country’s Kangaroo court system.
Clearly we should all avoid going to such dangerously corrupt third world countries.
Except in this case, Anderson was in the United States of America. And he is far from being the only victim of this highway robbery known as Civil Asset Forfeiture.
Since 9/11, police forces in the Land of the Free made over 62,000 seizures without charging anyone with any crime, stealing $2.5 billion in cash alone.
The cost of taking legal action against the government is so high, that only about 17% of the victims actually challenged the seizures.
And even then, only 41% of those that challenged have been able to get their money back.
This means that the government has a better than 93% success rate in outright theft.
This is worse than mafia—it’s blatant theft with impunity from the people that are sworn to protect and serve. It’s the kind of thing that is thought to only occur in heinously corrupt countries.
Here’s the good news: many people are waking up to the reality that they’re not living in a free country.
They are starting to understand what I call ‘the criminalization of existence.’
Every last detail of our lives is regulated—what we can/cannot put in our bodies, whether we can collect rainwater or unplug from the grid, how we are allowed to educate our own children, etc.
Driving this point home, a Tennessee woman was actually thrown in jail earlier this month for ignoring a city citation to trim some overgrown bushes in her yard.
This isn’t freedom.
The irony is that, even though many people are starting to realize this, they’re looking to the very institution that has enslaved them to solve the problem.
It is their own government that has created this system.
It is the government that passed US Code section 983 (Rules for Civil Forfeiture), allowing the police to commit highway robbery.
It is the government that continues to arrogantly, brazenly spy on every citizen despite overwhelming public outcry.
It is the government that continues to bring forth new regulation at an absolutely astounding rate.
Just today (this is 100% true), the US federal government published an eye-popping 490 pages of new rules, proposals, and regulatory notices.
To give you a little taste, today’s regulations include:
- Stringent requirements for properly handling spearmint oil;
- New tolerance specifications for a-alkyl-w-hydroxypoly sulfate
- Additional powers awarded to the Department of Education to decide “whether certain postsecondary educational programs prepare students for gainful employment.”
- A decision to centrally manage the 2014 ‘total allowable catch of Pacific Cod’ in the Bering Sea.
There’s even a new rule upholding fines for unauthorized playing of digital recordings.
You can’t make this stuff up—they are regulating nearly everything.
It’s government that does this. They are the problem, not the solution.
Looking to government to solve the problem that they themselves created is completely irrational. They are incapable of righting themselves.
The solution – the power – is with the individual.
All the tools and all the resources to distance yourself from this system already exist.
On one hand, there’s always the possibility of leaving. The American Dream is still alive and well… it’s just no longer in the United States. Not to mention all the financial, business, investment, and lifestyle opportunities for the taking.
But even if you stay, there are dozens of ways to take back your freedom.
For example, why hold 100% of your savings and assets in that jurisdiction when they could easily confiscate everything?
There are so many great, safe jurisdictions in the world to bank, to invest, to own property, and to store assets. And you can set all of this up without leaving town.
The solutions are out there. It’s time to consider them before becoming a statistic.
P.S. Here’s more proof that the official inflation numbers are completely phony… yet another market that has reached an all time high.
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Once they arrest you then they take all your stuff so you are automatically a loser.
Better carry around plenty of K-Y. Seems like you'll need it.
Tom-The arrest process is highly rigified and there must be an inventory of property conducted in front of you. You then sign agreeing that all your property is present and it is sealed until you are released. Whatever they take as evidence remains with them until the trial (that is also detailed upon booking). I'm not saying things do not go missing, but it's not as easy as you make it sound. Trust someone who has been there. There is a reason my username is smooth criminal. Unfortunately, a very wild child in my younger days.
Do not get arrested. These days, an arrest is not like it was 20 years ago.
You don't know what you are talking about and should STFU. I see cases all the time where the defendant has the feiture brought immediately after the information is filed or before because they are in a hurry to get those things filed. In fact the arrest is part of the game ! They wanr to keep you locked up while the clock to answer the asset forfeiture clock starts sticking. They figure if you can't make bail or waste assets hiring an attorney and posting a bond you wont have resources to answer the complaint on tha forfeiture. They only have 45 days to file on the forfeiture, meaning your criminal case won't be disposed of in that time unless you plead guilty...
When you do go to court and the charges are dismissed (as they have nothing on you) the money will be immediately returned and you can then sue the department for wrongful arrest, false imprisonment, etc.
You wont get a hearing on a motion to dismiss within that 45 day window even if the motion is filed at your arraingment between statutory time for the state to file repsonse to your motion, time for a reply brief and the cout's calendar your looking at at least 45 days meaning they are dissmissing anything, nor returning your FRN's either.
Clearly you have no experience with the system. STFU and stop giving bad advise. Document the siezure if you can and make a demand for the return of property. File that first, so if you are charged later you claim as a defense to the jury it was done for them to justify the siezure of your property.
Given that your post was fraught with spelling errors and rather incoherent (not to mention wildly incorrect), it seems as if you don't know what you are talking about. What capacity are you involved with the criminal justice system? Watching Law and Order I would assume.
To say that I do not possess experience in the criminal justice system is beyond ignorant and you can Shut The Fuck Up. I have spent more time in court than most lawyers and have probably spent more money on lawyers than you have made in your life. I don't like sounding like a tough guy, but your ignorance of the system is appalling.
They cannot sieze your money if it is needed as evidence moron, thus making the 45 day window irrelevant. In order to take the money, you would have to be convicted and since there is no wrong doing and no evidence "other than money" the charges would more than likely be dropped by DA before your first preliminary hearing.
Redhotfill, I have come to the conclusion that you are either mentally deficient or a troll. I will go with the former as I will still hold out hope.
Enclosing, fuck you and the horse you rode in on. Stop giving people bullshit advice. I've lived it asshole and I have the "battle scars" to prove it. I hate fucking dime store lawyers who do not know their ass from their elbow.
Precrime
Don't give these pig fuckers your money. Let them arrest you so you can fight the bogus charges and get the money back.
Jim Willie moved to Costa Rica and Jim Rogers moved to Singapore.
Singapore is one of the most repressive places on earth.
Don't get caught spitting on the ground there...
Fed and local cops should not have this power "since 9/11." Its brought in 2.5 billion to local cops to buy swat stuff. Author did not mention particulars about Frye who lied because he "felt intimidated." He also had various stories about why he was even in Seward County Nebraska. He eventually signed his 25 thou cash over to the police. Hes now appealing.
I thought this article was about corrupt, lawless, immoral Russia....
"There is no legal limit to how much cash you can actually carry. If you want, you can carry around a million dollars in a suitcase. HOWEVER, there have been instances where, even in the absence of much other evidence of criminal activity, people who have carried around large sums of cash have had those assets seized and eventually forfeited on the assumption that it was the proceeds of some criminal enterprise. See, for example, the case of United States v. $124,700 in US Currency.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._$124,700_in_U.S._Currency
So unless you've just got some really compelling reason to have just a huge amount of cash in your possession, you might want to avoid carrying around any kind of serious money."
Q1: Hoping that enough ZHers are still reading this article, does anyone know if, after getting pulled over, the Cops can ask you for your ID BEFORE they tell you why they pulled you over?
Seems to me that they'd have to tell you WHY your Constitutional Rights are being infringed, i.e. being detained and asked for ID, before they have the right to ask you for your ID.
Q2: And does this vary from State to State? Thanks, much obliged.
A: First, assuming that the basis for constitutional law still exists, you signed a contract with the state when you applied for and accepted your License to Travel (Driver License). As part of said contract you agreed to provide it or surrender it to any official state actor upon request (you're just safeguarding state property). Failure to do so carries with it threat of punishment, which varies by state.
A legitimate reason to inspect your license to operate a motor vehicle is not always necessary again, depending on the state. For example, here in Colorado you MUST provide ID to an "Officer" of the "Law" upon request, period. You could be just walking down the street and there would be no legal recourse for you to resist such "request."
If you DID have any constitutional rights (ha), you have already signed them away under duress. Either you beg of the state the option to exercise a "privilege" which under natural law is a right, or you operate your personal conveyance in an "illegal" manner.
Are you starting to get it yet? YOU ARE FUCKING PROPERTY OF THE STATE, PLEBE.
dear author ...
country of OFFENSE is NOT SUFFICIENT.
name the STATE and COUNTY of OFFENSE
OR
F.U.
late,
cdm
ps ~ accountability never hurt anyone, but for lames.
The USA is now run by organized crime syndicates, Take over is mostly complete.
US Treasury's Quid Pro Quo Arrangement with Criminal Cabals:
http://winteractionables.com/?p=15986
yankees deserve only and only such treatment: robbery and violence.
they treat the whole planet the same way.
"The reason they call it the American Dream is because you have to be asleep to believe it."
So, was he in Camden, Newark or Detroit?
Straight Outta Compton.
The thing is, asset forfeiture was originally intended to be used by the feds against drug cartels and organized crime. Just like the Patriot Act is intended to be used by the feds against terrorists.
The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.
H. L. MenckenIt ain't called The USSA for nothing
Make no mistake about it, some "enforcement" thug unlawfully (without probable cause) takes 25k from me, neither he, nor his family will ever find rest again. 50k of hell is a promise.
Thug cop for a moment "That badge and blue won't protect you."
What is truly remarkable is that the good cops allow the bad to put them at such risk and in harm's way. Iraq-syndrome at its finest.
PeeWee, thats the Blue Line you peak of. Sort of ironic that the mofo's put up billboards, tv, and media ads encouraging citizens to rat each other out while they stay mum as can be about the criminals in their ranks. Now where did this playbook come from, ask youself. I can think of a few nationalities, races, religious groups, etc. that operate like this. It tends to make them above the law as they infiltrate that same law and tweak it to their desires while excluding everybody else. The majority who are not part of these cliques get to pay the tab for these fucks.
Do you have any money with you?
No.
Mind if we look?
Get a warrant.
I dont carry cash or anything else much that can be seized. They can detain while a warrant is obtained, but a judge generally wont issue one unless there is a compelling reason. And if they do, they wont find anything, and then theres the issue of false arrest.
25k is only a stack of 100 dollar bills that is 6x2.5x1.26 inches. That shouldn't be that hard to hide either on your person or somewhere in the car. Maybe the ultimate new car option in the future is a hidden safe that can't be removed from the car. If the cop finds the safe and wants it opened, tell him to you forgot how. It's shameful and sickening what these cops are doing. Nothing but roadside bandits. Soon they'll be asking for bribes to avoid the $500 dollar ticket, or jail.
a hidden safe that can't be removed from the car...
Wells Fargo built their reputation on their version. It was called riding shotgun.
What's old is new again.
Fraud Street ruthlessness: Lie, cheat, and steal, just don't get caught, and always deny, deny, deny.
"Win ugly or lose pretty: ‘Dr. Evil’ lobbyist teaches US oil and gas execs to play dirty....
A top US political consultant, dubbed “Dr. Evil”, has been caught on tape at an industry conference, advising oil and gas execs to regard public policy as "endless war" and to play on people's fear and greed to lobby their interests.
Richard Berman's speech, which he gave in June in Colorado Springs, was leaked to The New York Times by one of the participant's at the conference who said: "It just left a bad taste in my mouth". The whistleblower asked for their identity not to be revealed....
"You can either win ugly or lose pretty," the founder and chief executive of the Washington-based Berman & Company consulting firm declared...."
http://rt.com/usa/201611-berman-lobby-leaked-speech/
It's going to be ugly. But its inevitable. The accelerating immorality of those who today call themselves government indicates that it will be sooner than the vast majority can imagine. The central governments, at all levels, will collapse in financial and moral bankruptcy. The most severe ramification of this will be the collapse of the fiat money, returning society to barter and the stone age. Most won't survive.
Meanwhile, all but a few continue to whistle past the graveyard. We can only hope that enough who remain will realize all the pain was caused by what the predatory and parasitic centralized governments did to weaken and hollow-out society. The survivors must stop this evil monster from rising from its ashes in any form to prevent future generations, and possibly even themselves, from again being oppressed by it.
Life, liberty and persuit of happiness. To secure these rights, governments are instituted among man. Most are familiar with these words. But very few seem to understand that as soon as government goes beyond simply "securing" these rights, it then violates them. Also, few understand, as Thomas Jefferson did, that all the government needed to "secure" these rights exists at the most local level, or in what he called the "ward". Only when the people of a ward feel they need an alliance with another ward for something like a common defense, should they allow one to form, and only for so long as it is needed. In those situations, particular caution should be taken toward any "leadership" forming over that alliance, to form the root of the next tyranny which always emerges from centralized governments that then become an evil beast known as "the state".
Murray Rothbard describes how a stateless society would function in "For A New Liberty". At mises.org you can download it free in text and audio formats.
Throw the cops and judges into the prisons - that would be a much better use of incarceration....
Classic symptom of a gov't that's far too big!
I have to ask: why was he carrying all that cash?
I have to ask: why was he carrying all that cash?...
No you don't. It's none of your business.
I haven't checked lately, but US fiat used to state directly on it "for all debts public and private".
What part of Private do you not understand?
Anyone know if there is a connection between similar bad behavior by the British government and the reason the Second Amendment is not only in the Bill of Rights but it's #2?
"civil forfeiture"?...
Just another monetary instrument in the arsenal of the CBs that use ZIRP, POMO/QE infinity etc... etc... that augments the looting and confiscation of wealth and resources everywhere else on the planet we've been witnessing in overdrive the last 13 years?...
The tip off to everyone in this Country came in the guise of a Hillary Clinton 3 years ago as the head of the State Department threatening the Swiss government to confiscate U.S. citizens with holdings in Swiss bank account(s), some for decades!... And yet no one in the MSM would talk about it at length. Is it any small wonder why people of wealth and power have chosen to leave this Country permanently???....
If the State Department was going to get involved in something like that that was well out of their jurisdiction, why wouldn't we be anticipating that it would be roosting here at home 3 years later with a potential World War looming and 50 million Americans and counting on foodstamps?!!!...
The bankers must be out in force on ZH this morning!
"This isn’t freedom." It's called democracy...
these dirty fukin slam pigs deserve the gallows. the whole political government gansters are as corrupt or worse then any criminal before or present. police are just rotten as they are allowed to get away with stealing money from innocent people left and right. what do they use it for? maybe alcoholic drink makers for after work parties or more toys that they dont need. all i know is that these dirty bastards are all from the same tree of rotten fruit and should be treated as such. pluck/remove the dirty fruit and hope fresh and better fruit will grown next year. if not then cut down the fuking whole fruit tree and plant a new one.
would you let someone you don't know take away your money when you have not committed any crime? it's everywhere; police, irs, poloticians and whatever else u can think of; it has been done. people just need to stand up for their rights and beliefs, period. bad people should be put down in a dark dungeon. doesn't matter weather they wear a badge and promised to uphold the constitutional rights of the people, because they are obviously not doing so. just becaue they are wearing a badge, does not make them better or, right and the true cowards will show their face. if it feels like u r being played and taken for a ride then go with your gut feeling; because most likely they are corrupt little piggies that need a wake-up call.
don't travel alone with large sums of money unless u dont have anyone to trust. stand up for your self because these corrupt law-breaking, badge wearing thugs will drop u in a ditch for a couple thousand dollars.
these dirty fukin slam pigs deserve the gallows. the whole political government gansters are as corrupt or worse then any criminal before or present. police are just rotten as they are allowed to get away with stealing money from innocent people left and right. what do they use it for? maybe alcoholic drink makers for after work parties or more toys that they dont need. all i know is that these dirty bastards are all from the same tree of rotten fruit and should be treated as such. pluck/remove the dirty fruit and hope fresh and better fruit will grown next year. if not then cut down the fuking whole fruit tree and plant a new one.
would you let someone you don't know take away your money when you have not committed any crime? it's everywhere; police, irs, poloticians and whatever else u can think of; it has been done. people just need to stand up for their rights and beliefs, period. bad people should be put down in a dark dungeon. doesn't matter weather they wear a badge and promised to uphold the constitutional rights of the people, because they are obviously not doing so. just becaue they are wearing a badge, does not make them better or, right and the true cowards will show their face. if it feels like u r being played and taken for a ride then go with your gut feeling; because most likely they are corrupt little piggies that need a wake-up call.
don't travel alone with large sums of money unless u dont have anyone to trust. stand up for your self because these corrupt law-breaking, badge wearing thugs will drop u in a ditch for a couple thousand dollars.
these dirty fukin slam pigs deserve the gallows. the whole political government gansters are as corrupt or worse then any criminal before or present. police are just rotten as they are allowed to get away with stealing money from innocent people left and right. what do they use it for? maybe alcoholic drink makers for after work parties or more toys that they dont need. all i know is that these dirty bastards are all from the same tree of rotten fruit and should be treated as such. pluck/remove the dirty fruit and hope fresh and better fruit will grown next year. if not then cut down the fuking whole fruit tree and plant a new one.
would you let someone you don't know take away your money when you have not committed any crime? it's everywhere; police, irs, poloticians and whatever else u can think of; it has been done. people just need to stand up for their rights and beliefs, period. bad people should be put down in a dark dungeon. doesn't matter weather they wear a badge and promised to uphold the constitutional rights of the people, because they are obviously not doing so. just becaue they are wearing a badge, does not make them better or, right and the true cowards will show their face. if it feels like u r being played and taken for a ride then go with your gut feeling; because most likely they are corrupt little piggies that need a wake-up call.
don't travel alone with large sums of money unless u dont have anyone to trust. stand up for your self because these corrupt law-breaking, badge wearing thugs will drop u in a ditch for a couple thousand dollars.
Our government appears to be the managerial and enforcement arm of our corporate overlords.
Zero Hedgers, it's best to avoid despicable America at all costs and head over on the earliest flight possible to Mother Russia.
There you'll be greeted by sky-high unemployment, a life expectancy almost a decade less, a vibrant state-controlled media, a failing currency, rampant police corruption and the gulag threat if you don't knuckle under.
And because most folks are trying to flee Russia, you can even earn generous ruble incentives if you stick around and help grow the population!
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/vladimir-putin/9739678/Vladimi...
There is also a program for men 180CM or taller who consent to be Judo-flipped to a mat on live TV by the diminutive Putin.
Come one, come all and help Russia rectify the greatest catastrophe of the 20th century by rebuilding our beleagured state, one land confiscation at a time!
We'll stand shoulder-to-shoulder with our comrades, break bread over borscht and enjoy a hearty Siberian winter without that infernal Obama lording it over us!
And while the ruble is sure to be worth less at the end of winter than it was at the start, we don't need no damn Audis, BMWs or Mercedeses polluting our pristine Russian roads, anyway!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJCObmm66Y0
Come!
get real, bozo. you sound like one of those morons doing the stealing. lol
Sorry, Bob. You've got ad hominem attacks. I've got facts and analysis.
See the difference?
Incarceration rate in US over 50% higher than Russia's
Russia can't afford to put all its criminals behind bars, so they roam the streets with everyone else.
wud dem pigz gon' do...take mah EBT card...d'bama get mah new one...jus aks 'em...
So lets imagine the cops pull over an armored truck loaded with cash. Can they take that money also?
If you outlaw carrying cash, only outlaws* will carry cash. But maybe that's the idea...the prison-industrial complex needs a steady source of "customers" to keep revenues flowing in.
*Not that being an "outlaw" is a bad thing when an unjust law is concerned.
It is beacuse of such laws as the "Patriot Act", the NDAA, and the Civil Asset Forfeiture act (to name but a few) that I left the U.S. permanently in 2009.
When any government has created such massive "internal security" (NSA, FBI, DEA, etc.) and "law enforcement" systems (DHS, FBI, TSA, DEA,and especially the IRS), it becomes obvious that this government is becoming more authoritarian and will, in time, become a "police state" in which the state can do WHATEVER it wants, regardless of the Constitution.
America is NOT "becoming police state"; it IS a "police state".
Chairman Mao Tse Dung wrote, "All political power grows out of the barrel of a gun."
And right now when even LOCAL police have "military-grade equipment" (even armored vehicles), it is time to "leave Dodge"!
I went down to Ohio State (my alma mater) for a football game this weekend, there were two things I noticed:
1. There was now a universal tobacco ban on campus, even outside when you're away from any building or using it in the privacy of your own dorm (e.g. chewing tobacco).
2. The campus police had full-blown armored cars stationed around the campus, completely black with tiny tinted windows and ports for guns and with the label "Special Response Team", i.e. SWAT. A SWAT team operated by a college police force! Every single one of them was armed as were the Columbus SWAT armored cars and troopers.
I graduated from there in 2010/2011* and back then they just had patrol cars and bicycles! In three years they became incredibly militarized...I felt uncomfortable seeing that, things have changed and not in a good way. God help me if I dared to light up a smoke in one of my old hangouts, I might have been Tazed or shot.
*Outing myself as a "Millenial", but hopefully this post is a glimmer of hope that not all of us are lost.
TOSU also owns an MRAP.
THE Ohio State University?
I did not read all the comments and I don't expect anyone to read my comment.
Just today (this is 100% true), the US federal government published an eye-popping 490 pages of new rules, proposals, and regulatory notices.
Tell the whole truth ... you must add, to that sentence, "... at the urging of interested stake holders, ( who paid bribes, and gave favors to the gov. agents)"
Seems like these people transporting cash are not too careful.
They email someone saying that they are doing it. NSA reads it and passes the information to local law enforcement. They are assuming something is wrong/illegal, because normal people do not transport so much cash they say.
Or the banks alert law enforcement about large cash withdrawals.
Easy Pickings
The "victim" apparently was unaware that "dollar bills" are not dollars. Federal Reserve notes are the property of the U.S. government, as evidenced by the penalty for the unauthorized destruction of them.
YOU CANNOT OWN DOLLAR BILLS.
Any presumption of "rights" is an error compounded by ignorance of the law.