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The American Dream: "You Have To Be Asleep To Believe It"

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"It's never gonna get any better, be happy with what you got... because the 'owners' of this country don't want that. The 'real' owners of America - the big wealthy business interests that control things and make all the important decisions - got you by the balls... What they don't want is a population of well-educated people capable of critical thinking."

 

Three minutes of uncomfortable truth...

 

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Sun, 11/02/2014 - 12:02 | 5403936 BlueStreet
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Hopefully he's RIP and not ROIHG

 

 

 

 

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 12:06 | 5403942 economics9698
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End the Fed.

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 12:13 | 5403974 Headbanger
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Anybody else remember Carlin as the host of the very first Saturday Night Live?

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 12:16 | 5403986 Tinky
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No, but what a great choice!

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 12:23 | 5404006 RallyRoundTheFamily
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Carlin woke me up then but ... i fell back asleep until 2001

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 12:50 | 5404079 OC Sure
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An excellent choice. Now where did you find that? http://ocsure.blogspot.com

The one further down the margin is good too on Withdrawing Support and the meaninglessness of voting.

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 12:55 | 5404084 InjectTheVenom
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>>>  President Carlin

>>>  President Obola

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 12:57 | 5404088 InjectTheVenom
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Seriously though, this short GC vid should be required viewing for all adults in USSA.

Damn i miss that guy !   Thank god for Youtube.

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 13:07 | 5404109 Richard Chesler
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people who are just smart enough to run the machines and do the paperwork but just dumb enough to passively accept all these increasingly shittier jobs with the lower pay, the longer hours, reduced benefits, the end of overtime and the vanishing pension that disappears the minute you go to collect it.

 

The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it.

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 13:18 | 5404159 Keyser
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George was a great observer of the insanity which we call "life" in this time and called bullshit on it... He openly divorced himself from the process and took on the role as the oracle of truth... We need more like him...  RIP George... 

 

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 13:50 | 5404239 GetZeeGold
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What they don't want is a population of well-educated people capable of critical thinking

 

Time for Common Core.....TAA DAA!!!

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 14:34 | 5404329 jbvtme
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[what they don't want is a nation of well educated critical thinkers]...if so why are the colleges packed with government subsidized students? critical thinkers is exactly what they want: common core scientific method, marxist, darwinist drones marching lockstep with their iphones.  critical thinking is predictable thinking. what the government (and it's archon handlers) fear is creative thinkers. loving, emotional, spontaneous, passionate, compassionate, nature loving and human. why did an alleged radical like carlin last so long in the limelight when hundreds (thousands) who told the truth before him; like malcomb x, mlk, jfk, joe mccarthy, tesla, harrison, harding, huey long, john lennon, lenny bruce, patton, forrestal, lindbergh, etc. were either killed or marginalized?

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 20:57 | 5405237 Tall Tom
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Notice that between Carlin and Oblowa that the dead guy wins?

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 15:39 | 5404490 Dugald
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We need more like him...  RIP George...

Why?  you never pay heed to such people, ever....

You are all too full of your own BS and arrogance to listen....

I can't even feel sorry for you as you have knowingly brought it on yourselves,

you have nothing but an ever darkening horizon to look upon.

 

Cactus Fucktus comes to mind.

 

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 13:18 | 5404160 zerozulu
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American dream:- Dancing with the Stars, Voice, honey boo boo and Kim Kardashian's ASS.

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 20:34 | 5405176 Bangalore Equit...
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Listen.

You forgot medical marijuana for the troops.

Mon, 11/03/2014 - 03:18 | 5405980 Pseudonymous
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The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it.

 

Let me first make the accurate observation that what people who don't have the power of accurate observation observe is worthless, even if it coincides with fact. You just can't afford to take a blind man's observation for a fact unless or until you have the observation made by someone accurate. That said, it is important to understand the real meanings of words such as Cynicism. People with the power of accurate observation often happen to share a lot of the philosophy of the Cynics, and the power of accurate observation is certainly something the Cynics value and seek.

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 19:26 | 5404990 Amish Hacker
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The Hippy Dippy Weatherman. Tonight's forecast: dark.

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 13:28 | 5404184 kchrisc
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Guillotine the Fed!

An American, not US subject.

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 13:48 | 5404236 NoDecaf
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Did you know they have their own police force? I couldn't believe it myself. I had to go downtown for something which took me right past 33 Liberty street, and there he was. Big fucking cop all decked out with war gear and a tactical shotgun. It said "federal reserve" on his uniform and on the police car that was nearby.

 

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 18:44 | 5404903 kchrisc
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Technically, all the police forces in the DC US, from local on up, work for the FedRes.

An American, not US subject.

 

"Guillotine the Fed!"

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 12:07 | 5403945 Croesus
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There was a great man, who told it as it really is. 

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 12:10 | 5403961 junction
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If you want to see the real American Dream (actually nightmare), look no further than the cover-up of the murder of Hollywood, Florida cabdriver Dirk Hale, killed on February 8, 2002.  Hale lived in a Hollywood apartment house on Young Circle as the next door neighbor of lead 9/11 hijackers Marwan al-Shehbi and Mohamed Atta in May and June of 2001.  The FBI did stop by Hale’s apartment after his murder but immediately dropped the matter. On orders from the Bush administration Justice Department.  Then Florida Governor Jeb Bush helped with the cover-up.

Hale was killed on his last day on the job as a Hollywood cabdriver.  The Hollywood police charged one person with the murder, a black teenager, even though the Miami Herald story on Hale’s killing said “3 flee shooting, residents say.” (February 10, 2001 Miami Herald article). Standard operating procedure for the South Florida police.  The initial Sun-Sentinel article (also on February 10) on Hale’s death was in the far left column on page one of the Local news section.  The far right column had a story about the re-investigation of the murder of Broward Sheriff Officer Patrick Behan in 1990.  For that crime, two black teenagers went to prison, even though eyewitnesses to that crime identified a man in a car as the shooter, not two black teenagers on bicycles.  When in doubt, frame a black teenager. 

Within 48 hours of Hale’s murder, Katherine Smith, a Tennessee Department of Motor Vehicles employee died in a mysterious car accident.  A state trooper who was behind her said her Acura first exploded in flames before driving off the highway.  Authorities had criminally charged Smith with illegally issuing drivers’ licenses to some guys who may have used these licenses as IDs to get jobs later working on the World Trade Center sprinkler systems (the sprinklers that failed on 9/11 even though they were upgraded after the 1993 Ryder truck bombing).  Smith was out on bail, due to testify before a grand jury.  She never kept that appointment.  The FBI investigation into the WTC sprinkler installers with bogus drivers’ licenses seems to have gone nowhere after Smith’s death.  Smith’s murder is still unsolved, no black teenagers around to take the rap.

Who can say now what Dirk Hale unknowingly knew about the actors involved in the 9/11 conspiracy?  Those Friendly Checker cabs drove passengers to and from the airport.  Imagine if one of Hale’s airport pickups asked to drive to Hale’s apartment house on Young Circle, there to meet Atta.  A pickup who wanted to stay unknown and ordered Hale killed, someone who could have known too much.  I wonder if the NSA was monitoring Hale’s phone.  Hale had a Greyhound bus ticket in his pocket, he gave his landlord notice he was moving.  Murdered on his last day as a cabbie.  Quite a coincidence.

 

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 12:26 | 5404010 Fuku Ben
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There are errand boys sent by grocer clerks at all levels of the pyramid of satan

They'll sacrifice some low level ex-con for a murder or whitewash an investigation into an FBI agent performing an execution in order to carry out a cover up

e.g. Ibragim Todashev

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 12:58 | 5404095 DipshitMiddleCl...
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It's funny when you gooogle his name, his results turn up those of someones whose had their name 'cleansed' via search engine scrubbing.

 

~DipshitMiddleClassWhiteKid

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 20:42 | 5405199 Bangalore Equit...
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Listen junction.

There it is again. That funny little acronym, fbi.

Hummmm. Wherever they go "FUNNY" things happen.

Wake up America. It's time for you to define your top 10 "PUBLIC ENEMY" list and work on getting rid of your enemies.

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 12:10 | 5403962 10mm
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Reality Check. Need that.

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 12:39 | 5404043 williambanzai7
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Sun, 11/02/2014 - 22:11 | 5405449 Blano
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It would be nice to see the whole pic, but that stupid fucking Sponsored Content shit keeps getting in the way Tylers.

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 12:41 | 5404051 jcpicks
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My favorite comedian of all time...

You always spoke the truth...and people thought it was 'funny' (like how preposterous it all really was). The truth was all the material you ever really needed. If everyone actually listened to what you said, maybe there wouldn't be so many us pretending NOT to be sheep.

R.I.P George

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 12:46 | 5404058 ZH Snob
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despite the odds stacked overwhelmingly against us it is important not to become embittered.  I know they have always won and will continue to win.  the only victories I can garner are personal ones: choosing to limit my footprint in the world; valuing time over money; treating others as I would like to be treated.  in short, simply being the best person I can by limiting my self, my desires, my anger and my frustration with a world in which I have little impact.

the rats can win the race.  it's ok with me.

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 14:58 | 5404399 nuke ISIS now
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Well said George, tip of the cap, and all respect that's due, you were ahead of your time, and may you rest in peace

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 12:06 | 5403944 Budd aka Sidewinder
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George Carlin didn't die in '08.  He changed his name to Tyler Durden and started www.zerohedge.com

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 12:27 | 5404009 LetThemEatRand
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Not your junker, but I don't think he'd agree with the predominent ZH political philosophy:

"One of the more pretentious political self-descriptions is "Libertarian." People think it puts them above the fray. It sounds fashionable, and to the uninitiated, faintly dangerous. Actually, it's just one more bullshit political philosophy."  -George Carlin, in Napalm and Silly Putty (2002), p. 261

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 12:37 | 5404035 TBT or not TBT
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You seem to have an agenda.  

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 12:40 | 5404048 Uncle Remus
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Understatement.

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 12:49 | 5404078 Pure Evil
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He's just tired of eating Rand's desiccated pussy.

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 13:20 | 5404167 Keyser
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Shouldn't you three be over on stormfront? 

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 13:49 | 5404231 RaceToTheBottom
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Used to be Fight Club was where people wanted that level of discussion to be

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 13:50 | 5404241 TBT or not TBT
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What goes on over there and how is it relevant to...anything?    Sounds like you know what sort of content is typical over there.  

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 14:30 | 5404336 Pure Evil
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We were over at stormfront but you kicked us out cause you thought we might be joos.

It's amazing how it takes one to know one.

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 12:52 | 5404081 LetThemEatRand
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"You seem to have an agenda."

Funny how quoting Carlin on a thread that features a Carlin video is controversial, and agenda driven in your mind.  Everyone has an agenda.  Sorry if Carlin disagreed with yours.

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 13:11 | 5404137 TBT or not TBT
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You have a hard on for any take on things libertarian.  And you are against.   It's a curious obsession you might want to have looked into.  

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 13:30 | 5404192 TBT or not TBT
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I mean, libertarians are probably not out to get you.  

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 14:26 | 5404328 Pure Evil
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He's not a libertarian.

He'll switch philosophies faster than he probably switches hands while in the shower.

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 13:58 | 5404261 Jack Burton
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You suggest that anyone who doesn't follow your line of thinking is mentally ill? That really adds to your position in a debate. No, not really. It just is sad. To waste electrons claiming such things of people who don't buy into your idea. It cheapens the debate.

But you got every right to say what you please. This is ZH. I am just saying it doesn't reflect good on you.

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 14:13 | 5404297 Uncle Remus
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This is ZH. I am just saying it doesn't reflect good on you.

 

Wee bit of a paradox that.

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 13:14 | 5404147 Billy the Poet
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Carlin could be wrong on occasion just like anyone else. Where's the surprise?

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 13:28 | 5404182 Cathartes Aura
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what if Carlin was "right" but you just disagree with him?

like this snark:

“Here's all you have to know about men and women: women are crazy, men are stupid. And the main reason women are crazy is that men are stupid.”

and one of my faves:

“Avoid teams at all cost. Keep your circle small. Never join a group that has a name.”

 

both taken from the delightfully named, When Will Jesus Bring the Pork Chops?          subtle   /wink.

 

((didn't downvote you, not that it matters))

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 13:47 | 5404234 Billy the Poet
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But Carlin could be wrong on occasion just like anyone else. It's not (or shouldn't be) a controversial statement to those who make even the smallest effort to think critically.

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 14:01 | 5404265 Cathartes Aura
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consider that "right/wrong" are in the eyes of the beholder, and the concept of Yin/Yang, which holds a piece of the "opposite" deep within each "side" is perhaps closer to a Truth.

Carlin's only "wrong" from your beliefs, and others might see him as "right" in his observations - who's "right" overall?

who gets a perfect score?

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 14:47 | 5404376 Billy the Poet
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I guarantee you that on some occasions George Carlin was objectively wrong about one thing or another. I'm sure that there were times when he missed a bus or dialed a wrong number or bought a shirt that looked like crap when he took it home and tried it on.

 

"who gets a perfect score?"

Gee, that sounds very similar to my (surprisingly controversial) assertion that Carlin could be wrong on occasion just like anyone else.

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 15:11 | 5404431 Uncle Remus
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The denial is strong in this one.

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 15:16 | 5404438 Billy the Poet
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Yes, I firmly believe that George Carlin was not infallible.

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 16:04 | 5404541 Uncle Remus
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Good for you. I firmly believe you are a fuckstick.

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 18:39 | 5404891 StychoKiller
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"Everyone's got to believe in something, I believe that I'll have another beer!"

Coach:  "Can I draw you a beer, Norm?"

Norm: "Nah, I know what they look like, just pour me one."

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 22:36 | 5405527 edotabin
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One can't forget that despite what he was saying, he was still primarily a comedian.  He had to pass his message while still being funny. This is NOT an easy thing to do, especially when the message is not about something inherently funny.

For those not that familiar with him, you can watch a special appearance at the National Press Club (covered on CSPAN). Not only was it 100% "clean", it was funny and really highlighted his talent.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pc0ZHsoHAlE

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 13:53 | 5404247 RaceToTheBottom
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Just FYI, I downvote anyone who feels it necisary ro say that they didn't down vote someone. 

It is a matter of principal with me....

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 13:57 | 5404257 Cathartes Aura
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"principal", habit, potatoe, potato. . .

thanks for sharing bro' - both yer habits & yer downvote.

have a nice day!

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 14:39 | 5404356 RaceToTheBottom
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Thanks for the reply and corrections. I always got called to principle's office on that one.

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 14:51 | 5404387 Billy the Poet
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+1 for being that rare individual who can admit that he is wrong on occasion and makes an effort to avoid the same mistake in the future.

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 15:56 | 5404525 RaceToTheBottom
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If I didn't post and admit when I was wrong, I would never post anything....

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 17:02 | 5404648 Billy the Poet
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Sounds like we're on the same page in that regard. It's my goal to be right as often as possible. Therefore when I am demonstrably in error I admit the error so that I will not perpetuate it and thereby damage my quest to be right as often as possible. It's amazing how many folks fail to see the logic in that.

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 18:41 | 5404897 StychoKiller
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How come no one ever guesses "prinsipul?"

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 14:17 | 5404304 Uncle Remus
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He could be, but he's not in this instance. I gave you a red too, BTW.

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 14:55 | 5404398 Billy the Poet
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Assuming you are replying to me, please provide evidence that libertarians try to remain "above the fray."

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 15:06 | 5404422 Uncle Remus
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Yes I was.

No, I won't.

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 15:19 | 5404449 Billy the Poet
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Won't or can't?

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 14:19 | 5404287 Uncle Remus
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"Everyone has an agenda."

 

WTF are you on about? I hardly consider wanting to be left alone, especially by any government, an agenda.

 

And yanking on some random ZH poster's chain isn't an "agenda" - it's entertainment after the coffee has run out.


"Do want you want to

do what you will

Just don't mess up

your neighbors thrill." - FZ

 

EDIT: BTW, I don't self-identify with any political philosophy/nonsense.

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 18:44 | 5404907 StychoKiller
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If you "feel" your chain is getting yanked, perhaps you should remove it.  No one can make me feel guilty, only I have that power.

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 12:41 | 5404045 CrazyCooter
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All politicians are human. All politicians get bought at some point. It is both political nature and human nature.

This is why family dynasties don't last, empires don't last, etc.

In this sense, GC is correct.

However, if we are looking for a bible in a whorehouse, I will settle with the founding fathers of this country and the framework of government orginally established for the people. Not sure it could be improved upon very much (except, perhaps, establishing that my "data" is my property).

All we need to do is follow it, but that train already left the station.

Regards,

Cooter

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 13:12 | 5404136 Jumbotron
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Screw the Founding Fathers.  Elitists, slave holders, hypocrites, corrupt, at worst.  Criminally naive at best that humans can do any better in the long run than Feudalism.

The only difference over time between a Constitutional Republic and Feudalism is the number of people at the top and the number of Serfs at the bottom.

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 20:17 | 5405130 SAT 800
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blank.

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 21:53 | 5405401 dellievan
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  Just as an aside,  it took me a bit of time to realize that Carlin was able to do great lengths of his show without interjecting  "uhms" or "ahs" .  Truely a great gift!  Politicians and bureaucrats can't speak for three or four words without this disgusting "tick".   Funny how a comedian can speak with noticeable eloquence.  Must be something about his laser ability to speak truth to bullshit.

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 14:00 | 5404252 Jack Burton
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Rand, that's a good point. I struggle all the time with my liberal social ideals and my free market ideals. You see, the real crony capitalists and their conservative allies in Washington have found a way to get libertarians to fall into line for much of the crony capitalist agenda. There should be a world of difference from a libertarian lover of responsible freedoms and the American conservative establishment who call for freedom all the time and for free markets, but they LIE. They hide behind ideals of libertarians to push their corporate and police stste agenda. No libertarian can survive mentally if they watch FOX and buy the rubbish crony elite mouthpiece that FOX is. FOX and American conservatives ARE the military industrial, spy, cop complex, plus the religious loonies, and the bankers and the manipulated market participants.

Sadly too many Libertarians would hate most of what Carlin said. Because he was liberal, and thought the working man was getting a raw deal. Washington DC is expert at manipulating honest conservative Americans into buying into the crony capitalist/police state/imperial war machine. FOX exists for only one purpose, to pull conservative free market people into the orbit of the Washington DC 1% crony capitalist and imperial war mongers.

I love freedom, responsible freedom, a freedom that believes in honest markets, not crony dog eat dog manipulated markets of today.  When I read some ZH'ers poor out venom against people who are not the so called winners, the ordinary people who only want a job, it does make me ill. It is just waht Washington is selling via CNN/FOX/CNBC and all the phoney Liberal versus Democat. Show me more than 2 liberals in America. I mean liberal, not these Democrat Leadership Clinton types who sell out totally to Empire/Bankers/the SPies/The military/the corporations. One party rule is the rule! Donkey versus Elephant is a made up bullsit lie, pushed to make you feel you have democratic choice. You do not. Candidates are hand picked in the 1% circles. Obama was carefully selected to carry out 99% of the Bush agenda, while claiming to be Mr. Liberal. Liberal, Obama? Look at his record, all of it. Then come back and tell me this fusking 1%'er is a liberal. That is just FOX bullshit!

For fuck's sake people. Turn off the Rupert Murdoch Israeli lie machine! Free your mind, for god's sake!

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 14:20 | 5404315 Uncle Remus
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I struggle all the time with my liberal social ideals

 

As well you should. No good will come from them.

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 14:49 | 5404382 Abaco
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Curious as to why you mention Fox so may times and MSNBC, CBS, ABC, NBC not once. Why close with the Rupert Murdoch Israeli lie machine line?  One would think that you believe the other large media companies not owned by Murdoch are credible.

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 16:42 | 5404590 LetThemEatRand
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If you ever read any of Jack Burton's posts, you would know that he has a similarly negative opinion of those other corporate owned propaganda spewers.  The vast majority of ZH posters already see that MSNBC etc are full of shit.  But many still think that MSNBC is "liberal" as opposed to being part of a very well crafted Red Team/Blue Team propaganda machine.  And many of the same people see Fox as something other than a shill for fascism, performing the important function of speaking to the Red Team and assuring Red Team voters that everything wrong with the world is the result of the Blue Team, socialists, liberals, progressives, etc.   He's speaking to that crowd that fail to recognize the existence and reason for the propoganda.

Case in point -- do you ever see Fox or MSNBC tell you that you should vote for the third party candidate?  Remember what Fox did to Ron Paul?  Remember what MSNBC did to Dennis Kucinich?  Both of those guys, love 'em or hate 'em, wanted to End the Fed and were a threat to the status quo.   What did Fox do?  It treated Ron Paul as a joke.  What did MSNBC do?  It treated Kucinich as a joke.  They did their job for the corporations that own/control them and who back the mainstream Red Team/Blue Team candidates with virtually equal dollars precisely because these corporations don't care who wins.  All they care about is owning whomever wins.

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 16:59 | 5404645 TheGreatRecovery
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Labels like "liberal" and "conservative" don't mean anything to me anymore.

For example, "liberals" call for better wages for workers, but in attempting to get those better wages, liberals ignore the free market law "The Law of Supply and Demand", which overpowers everything else, and instead say, "simply increase the minimum wage", ignoring history, which tells us that wages DO NOT increase when labor markets are being flooded with workers.

Conservatives call for balancing budgets, but at the same time call for ever larger military, police, and prison operations, ignoring history, which tells us that states CAN NOT balance budgets while increasing military and police operations.

Libertarians, which is to say, proponents of limiting policing, are unfortunately destined to mostly work toward limiting policing of large wealthy corporations.

In every case, the same principle is at work: money talks.

So instead of worrying about labels like "liberal", "conservative", and "libertarian", I try to speak about one issue at a time.  Press people, on the other hand, speak about labels endlessly, because that allows them to redefine those labels to mean whatever the TPTB who sign their paychecks have ordered them to say the labels mean.

Down with labels!  :-)

Mon, 11/03/2014 - 09:14 | 5406265 goldsaver
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I love freedom, responsible freedom, a freedom that believes in honest markets, not crony dog eat dog manipulated markets of today.

I am heartened by your use of the phrase "responsible Freedom". Freedom is responsibility. It is ownership of both the positive and negative consequences of your actions. True freedom is not the easy laid back hippy "free love" or the college dropout "anarchist (I hate when they use that title) demanding that the government leaves them alone to do their thing while subsidizing their thing. Responsible freedom is the freedom of the subsistence farmer that must plant a crop or his family will die. It is the freedom of the pioneer who builds his cabin, chops his wood and hauls his water. If he makes a mistake building his cabin, he pays for it. If he gets lazy and does not chops enough wood, he dies of the cold. If he hauls water in a leaky bucket, he dies of thirst.

Freedom is consequences. A human owns his body and his mind. The consequences of his actions are also owned by him. When those actions produce wealth, or the cure for a disease, he benefits from it. When the actions hurt himself or others, he also owns the consequences of those actions.

 

 

 

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 12:08 | 5403955 ListenToTISM
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Must be depressing for comedians who do this kind of material. A packed house laughs at the jokes for an hour and then the majority of them jump back in their cars and return to the life of mindless peasantry and consumerism which they were just laughing at.

Who could blame Bill Hicks for taking up the offer to have his show syndicated and widely-distributed for the small price of changing his names to Alex Jones?

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 12:14 | 5403972 10mm
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What's depressing is wakeing up. Then living a 100% LIE EVERY Fuckin day. Same shit,same song and dance. FRAUD

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 12:30 | 5404018 RallyRoundTheFamily
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Their lies are like a prison, so my job has been to hang a "Don't worry be HAPPY" poster up.

Then slowly start digging out w/ a teaspoon, not sure if I'll make it but hopeat least.

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 13:35 | 5404198 Cathartes Aura
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maybe you can "keep waking up" and get over the notion that you have to live a lie every fuckin day?

maybe just wake up to living your truth, not their lies?

maybe Carlin and Hicks were pointing to a deeper truth overall?

“Today a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration, that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively, there is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves. Heres Tom with the Weather.”

 

some truths really can set you free. . .

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 19:27 | 5404996 WillyGroper
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ROFL 

I busted a gut when the artist formerly & currently known as "Prince" had 3 lens sunglasses on SNL. The top covering that freshly polished 3rd eye. 

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 19:27 | 5405000 August
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>>>>maybe just wake up to living your truth, not their lies?

Highly recommended, but then they crucify you.

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 13:27 | 5404138 freewolf7
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I learned something from Bill Burr. His standup monologue shifted into talking about the banks, and the audience grew quiet, uncomfortable. Quickly noticing he was losing them, he launched into, "So I got a dog..."
The audience roared with approval and relief. Bringing up "the news" can wear on relationships.

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 13:44 | 5404223 Rusty Shorts
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LOL Bill Hicks is NOT Alex Jones, what an insult to Bill.

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 15:17 | 5404446 benb
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Dis-info... for the weak minded...I'll have to remember your screen name for future bullshit posts.

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 12:10 | 5403966 LetThemEatRand
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I remember seeing this not long after he did the live routine.  At the time I thought it was over the top, and designed to be so in order to make a point.  Now I understand it was not over the top at all, and was an accurate statement of what he believed.  Smart guy ahead of his time.

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 13:07 | 5404125 Ignatius
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This clip is a synthesis.  He really did nail it with this bit.

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 12:12 | 5403969 Hohum
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So we need to get rid of big government.  But we need to get rid of big business, too.  If not, what Mr. Carlin said will remain true.  Anyone for an agrarian society?

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 12:34 | 5404024 CH1
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Anyone for an agrarian society?

Nope, just an Agorist society.

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 12:39 | 5404044 Hohum
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Big business and an agorist society don't mix.  But you may need big business to sustain the myth of perpetually expanding material abundance.

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 13:16 | 5404155 Billy the Poet
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Until you define "big business" you'll just keep spinning your wheels.

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 13:28 | 5404183 Hohum
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Good question.  It's a bit arbitrary, but let's start with any business that employs a lobbyist in DC or a state capital.  Otherwise, say one that employs more than 200 people.

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 13:56 | 5404256 Billy the Poet
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"but let's start with any business that employs a lobbyist in DC or a state capital."

 

Good start. Some sort of distinction between capitalism and crony "capitalism" is just what I was looking for.

 

"Otherwise, say one that employs more than 200 people."

 

If you ban commercial operations which employ more than 200 people then division of labor and economy of scale which are responsible for feeding the seven billion individuals living on this planet will break down and many of us will die.

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 14:09 | 5404282 Hohum
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B the P,

Good point at the end.  I think humans will have to figure out a way to feed themselves without such commercial operations.  And the "will" is in the 21st century.

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 15:03 | 5404415 Billy the Poet
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I'm all for supporting the little, local guy over conglomerates. One simply has to be careful about drawing arbitrary lines and asking the elite government class to enforce such biases.

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 20:23 | 5405139 SAT 800
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let's start with a law that makes lobbyists illegal; and then enforce it. why not solve the problem instead of creating another one?

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 13:18 | 5404156 Jumbotron
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"Anyone for an agrarian society?

Nope, just an Agorist society."

 

Nope.....Mutualist Society.

http://www.mutualist.org/id24.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutualism_(economic_theory)

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 13:37 | 5404209 CH1
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Mutualist Society

No thanks. If I earn it, I get to keep it, and not subject some overseer's determination that I'm not using it well enough.

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 14:23 | 5404320 Uncle Remus
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"You keep what you kill."

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 12:41 | 5404052 TBT or not TBT
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Pol Pot style?    I prefer hunting and gathering to that sort of agriculture based miserable lifestyle, apocalyptically speaking.    Carbohydrates ruin not just your teeth, your nervous, system, and basically every tissue of your body, you also end up with something even more troublesome.   Civilisation.

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 12:56 | 5404089 Hohum
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Good point.  Hunting and gathering is the long term trend, but doing so in the short run would bring chaos almost immediately.

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 13:14 | 5404150 TBT or not TBT
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Ted Nugent is already at it, right?

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 13:26 | 5404175 Hohum
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Right.  That's 1/320,000,000.  Think it will scale, huh?

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 13:26 | 5404178 Rusty Shorts
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"Civilization" *some restrictions apply.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wiRhVzsXFM

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 12:45 | 5404056 CrazyCooter
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I have said on ZH before I was (philosophically) long shithouses and plow mules.

But, if you can't defend the land, it is pointless.

So, the MIC is going to be calling the shots for quite a while!

Regards,

Cooter

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 20:29 | 5405158 SAT 800
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If there's an example in real life that you can refer to it's better to study it rather than trying to win a debate. When we had big business and smalll government in the United States the people did remarkablly well. And the country as a whole drained brains and talent from europe and astonished the world. I enjoy reading reportage from the earlier part of the 20th Century; especially trade publications and reports on engineering projects; the history of AT&T is remarkable; as is the history of G. Westinghouse, Mr. Brush, (forgot his first name), Andrew Carnegie who built public ldibraries all over the United States. I was educated in one of them; certainly not in a "school system:". I spent entire summer vacations in the Public Library. So this experiment has already been performed. Make lobbyists illegal and enforce the law.

Mon, 11/03/2014 - 09:32 | 5406299 goldsaver
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The problem with “big business” is not its size, its the undue influence they can exert on the rest of us. If a business is large because its value to its customers makes it so, then there is nothing wrong with a big business. But, when its size is achieved by counterfeiting money, buying influence in DC and using the state to destroy competition, then it is evil.

The key here is that you do not have to get rid of big business. If you get rid of the state, big business will no longer have the ability to exert undue influences or block others from entering the market place.

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 12:26 | 5403970 Sisyphus
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If George Carlin were still alive, he would have been called a racist by the media, because all his observations would have been a critic of the messiah and what Joan Rivers called a Tranny.

RIP

Edit: And forget critical thinking. The millennials who are in line to take over the world don't have a fucking clue. Some of them don't even have the basic knowledge of the world around us. I was once asked by a millennial--"Where in the US is Italy". I said New York. You may think I am joking, but I am not. And that person was supposedly an "engineer".

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 12:33 | 5404026 Seasmoke
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what a dope you are. Everyone knows its New Jersey.

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 19:56 | 5404112 cornedmutton
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Georgia's IN Florida, dumbass.

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 12:47 | 5403976 JustObserving
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America keeps descending ever faster into the night of fascism ever since the false flag of 9/11.  Police have unprecedented powers and liberate you from your cash legally. The police is increasingly militarized the better to control and frighten you  The NSA, funded to the tune of over $70 billion, spies on you and all of America's institutions so none of them can be regarded as free anymore.  The DHS exists only to terrorize you as you fund it at $60 billion a year. Your government can imprison you without trial forever and your leader can assassinate you.  You are being poisoned by GMO foods (banned in Japan, Russia, India) and fluoridated water (banned totally in Israel).  That you have any say in running this country is only a delusion.  As is also the notion that you have any significant freedoms.  As Snowden put it, children born today will have no concept of privacy or freedom. As the American night gets darker, your compromised politicians keep selling you the American nightmare as the American dream.

 

"We can have democracy in this country, or we can have great wealth concentrated in the hands of a few, but we can't have both."
- Louis D. Brandeis, Supreme Court Judge

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 12:48 | 5404071 TBT or not TBT
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Hopefully not one of Brandeis' most important quotations  because it seriously diminishes the guy, if so.   

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 13:14 | 5404145 SilverIsMoney
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Really wish people would get the distinction between Democracy and Republic. We didn't pledge ourselves to a fucking Democracy. You can't find the word written once in the founding document of this nation because the founders knew what a fucking disaster democracy ends up being. Mob rule NEVER works and the welfare queens lining up to vote for more free shit only proves their point...

 

STOP fucking calling America A DEMOCRACY IT'S A REPUBLIC!

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 13:25 | 5404176 PivotalTrades
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WAS!!!!!

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 13:50 | 5404244 Cathartes Aura
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.

STOP fucking calling America A DEMOCRACY IT'S A REPUBLIC!

 

a great quest might be to identify exactly when and if the above statement rang true. 

and then finding the courage to keep following that rabbit hole. . .

 

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 15:15 | 5404440 Uncle Remus
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"Patience my ass. I'm going to retire something."

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 12:14 | 5403979 Tegrat
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Right, I have several rentals free and clear and a well into six digits job after self teaching computers since the 80's. I'm working on a trading algo for myself on languages and frameworks i have taught myself and am doing outside working hours. I wasn't given a dime. Just bought 3.9acre a property at the top of a mountain and looking to build with at least a 30% cash down payment. With God's help, anything is possible.

 

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 12:25 | 5404008 44magnum
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This isn't faceplant and we don't fucking care.

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 15:16 | 5404444 Uncle Remus
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Amen.

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 19:54 | 5405044 scrappy
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While up on the mountain keep an eye out fot the spirit of George Carlin.

AKA Fuck of the Mountain!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrD6k8PDr1o

George Carlin - Seven Dirty Words


Zappas spirit might be with him singing "Have you seen us?"

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 12:14 | 5403980 10mm
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Joan spoke the truth, weather you like her or not. And she paid.

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 12:38 | 5404037 WTFRLY
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She got what she deserved after the Palestine comments.

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 19:56 | 5405073 10mm
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Get lost loser. Go watch Fox News.

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 12:18 | 5403992 alexcojones
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The king's court jester always knows the true powers behind the throne.

Carlin was not joking around here.

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 12:21 | 5403997 10mm
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Neither was Joan Rivers. Takin OUT.

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 15:16 | 5404441 Keyser
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or Christophe de Margerie

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 12:50 | 5404003 OC Sure
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.

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 12:27 | 5404014 viator
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That can't be true, America has ZeroHedge.

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 12:28 | 5404016 livefreediefree
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Critical thinking. Very, very difficult to achieve.

How to learn to think critically? Argue the other side.

Only one point about critical thinking. What the Progressives overlords lust and crave for us to do is exit the system so they can do their vile deeds without opposition. So, the best way to beat them is to exit the system?

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 12:46 | 5404062 philosophers bone
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Way easier to just call the other side "evil" than to think critically.  Especially when others say you've "won the argument" by using that very simple strategy.

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 13:54 | 5404251 livefreediefree
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Yes, PB. Liberals think conservatives are evil, while conservatives think liberals are idiots (They're wrong and we're right, but that's an argument for another post).

So, liberals are basically told that they don't have to think. Since conservative are evil, everything they espouse is evil. Moral people should shun them, and not even engage them.

Sure is the case on our colleges and universities that critical thinking is not taught. George Will says it nicely, "Diversity in everything except for thought". What incoming students learn is that there is one and only one POV (aka, moral position) to adopt on every issue. Once they learn what they should think, they no longer need to think because they know everything.

As an aside, the sheep here on ZH are sure a herd. They congregate together, and affirm each other. Adolescent angst sure is a bitch, ain't it?

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 12:48 | 5404070 CrazyCooter
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Actually, it is pretty straight forward.

Give nature 1000 years to starve, kill, or otherwise end the life of those who don't think critically and you get a population that is a bit more savvy. I think modern society allows all manner of hangers-on to knock out as many hangers-on as possible.

We have simply been dumbed down by lack of natural selection and over breeding.

Take a cow for example. Do know cows have come to dominate the wide open spaces across America? They taste like beef!

Regards,

Cooter

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 12:32 | 5404023 Fix It Again Timmy
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The United States - power and priviledge run amok, it's that simple...

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 13:09 | 5404025 Fuku Ben
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There are messengers of all types offered as a means of obtaining your passive consent to your enslavement

Carlin wasn't dead serious to be funny. It was because he was telling the truth. The people laughing harder than the audience are his masters that made him perform as their puppet and received your consent while you laughed it off as a joke

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 12:36 | 5404031 mikelongisland
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QUIT YOUR WHINING ! ISNT IT ENOUGH WE HAVE TO LISTEN TO THE OBAMAMANIACS !

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 12:37 | 5404036 WTFUD
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There may be trouble ahead but where there's Yellen and Draghi and Carney and Kuroda let's face the music and dance.

A big thank you to Bernanke & Bankster BarrowBoy Tim Geithner for leaving the world in safe hands; special mention must go to Goldman Sachs for making it all possible and whom without decades of Skulduggery we'd be in a far far worserrer place.

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 12:41 | 5404047 ciscokid
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Keep stacking gold and silver. (Physical)

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 12:51 | 5404082 philosophers bone
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Nothing has changed.  The thesis is sound, the only issue is timing and whether individual solvency can last longer than governments'.  We're at a disadvantage because we don't have a printing press.  But nothing has changed.  Silver at $30 or $15, it doesn't matter unless you need to liquidate before price discovery which could be a long time. 

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 12:47 | 5404059 ebworthen
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The U.S. Main Stream Media (MSM) propaganda machine is a sight to behold.

It entrances the sheeple, who are now busily bleating for their favorite sheep dog.

Not realizing that it doesn't matter what dog herds you to the shearing pen or the slaughter house.

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 12:49 | 5404072 The Pop In
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If you watch Carlin's last 3 HBO lectures, you will understand why he was "heartattacked". He must have known the risk he was taking. Thank You George.

The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. ~ Edmund Burke

 

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 12:56 | 5404086 philosophers bone
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Where the hell is Beppe Grillo? 

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 12:50 | 5404076 DavyRoySixPack
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From time to time I get to thinking ....

The lastest QE event from Japan ... 

....was timed with the US FED declaring no future QE (time will tell).

Perhaps gold bugs are missing something about contemporary fiat currencies that can not be compared with historical paper currency of the past.

Maybe the ubermensch are now able to move digital fiat (flows) around globe fast enough to keep the fiat game going long enough to usher complete control of (POS) "point of sale" transactions.

By slowing the velocity of money worldwide the globalists may be able to "cull" the human race and replace it with a cyborg consumer that consumes and is slave/soldier to the New World Order.

Perhaps my vision of hell is their vision of heaven.

perhaps old world tribalism has its new "Shiva" - cyborg monetarism

Anything is possible

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 15:39 | 5404427 layman_please
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human existence without another human being is meaningless. it's the reflections and relations to another human beings that gives us the sense of identity who we are. overlords would be as satisfied torturing cyborgs as much one enjoys conversations with a toaster. 

psychopaths need somebody with a soul and conscious to feel superior. if you ask me, they have already crossed the line, as most of the people are senseless zombies without any aim in life.

Sun, 11/02/2014 - 15:44 | 5404496 DavyRoySixPack
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the definition of what it means to be human is always changing ... what I think a human should or should not be may not be up to you and me ....

consumer cyborg slave soldier without a tribal soul is the consquence of a consumer whose point of sale choice has been removed ..

... I am just playing devils advocate .....

...but it seems ... as the republicans are swept back into the senate .... all we have done is play musical chairs ... it will only give the illusion that voting matters ..

 

...it will only give the illusion that we are voting souls .... 

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