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HERE’S Why Ebola Is No Longer In the News
Forbes’ David Kroll – an adjunct professor at Duke University Medical Center - notes:
The Associated Press and other press outlets have agreed not to report on suspected cases of Ebola in the United States until a positive viral RNA test is completed.
In other words, the mainstream media has agreed not to report on any suspected Ebola cases.
I guess the Ebola czar has been a busy boy, after all ... you know, preventing panic and all that.
H/t Dr. Meryl Nass.
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Yeah, that's why the entire mainstream media got together and decided not to report on it anymore
MSM only reports what the elites provide. THey don't investigate they only present from newsfeeds.
All nightly news shows are nearly identical, for a reason. DUH!
The unbiased media is just doing their job... protecting Obama and the dems. Ebola was killing them in the elections.
"In other words, the mainstream media has agreed not to report on any suspected Ebola cases."
The MSM whoremasters don't want people to be too afraid to go out and spend lots of money shopping for stuff during the holiday season.
Censorship of weaponized Ebola cases/outbreaks, incidence, is unprofessional. Our only defence is our knowledge base and ability to act before weaponized Ebola makes it to our tertiary care teaching hospitals in North America. Reporting accurate timely data is key to understanding progression and how to handle the progession. Witholding information
is counter-intuitive and counter-productive to ending the weaponized Ebola outbreak. If government is purposely witholding information on weaponized Ebola that would indicate that governance had something to hide. Liability is certainly on the shoulders of the American Government when scientists
determine the genotype of the patented weaponized Ebola strain.
If it isn't the Govt.s strain...
Holy Shit!
That means the monkeys are making the stuff!
They got tired of being second banana primates?
Bioweapons Expert Reaffirms Belief that Ebola Escaped from a Biowarfare Lab
In reply to Master of the Universe: I agree and would like to add that in the light of the USA has spent BILLIONS of American bebt dollars to develop weaponized Ebola as a biowarfare agent and that the 4,000 American “boots on the ground” in Africa (have or have not? Ha. Ha) received a vaccination against the designer Ebola agent; you are correct in your assumptions.
As a routine way with the American military, a US soldier is fully vaccinated against diseases before they are sent into a diseased area, aren’t they?
Remember, all military options are on the table including nuclear and biological weapons, like Ebola.
The unbiased media is just doing their job... protecting Obama and the dems. Ebola was killing them in the elections.
Killing amnesty after the election, too.
you're Dead Wrong.
The reason ebola and Ukraine and any other important world wide issue is swept under the carpet is because the citizens of the United States collectively have the attention span of a Peanut and the MSM know this and respond accordingly.
The last major plague freed the serfs and was the beginning of the middle class. Folks in power are after all of Africa, the whole continent. Now does it all make sense?
So after obama fucks us all up, will he be the next african ruler?
But he has to write his best seller first.
Fifty shades of brown.
Czar's need to be put on the endangered species list.
How ironic. The same scammers who murdered tha last Czar now boast about wearing his crown. They walk arond wearing stolen property and think we won't notice.
From the Link to the Forbes story on a patient at Duke Medical (initial test Negative but isolated anyway).
I assume the "unnamed official" could be your Tax dollars at work.
Dr. Wos seemed thrown off by a question about how the patient got to North Carolina from Newark. When she responded that it was a commercial bus, an unnamed official abruptly called the press conference to a close.
Before being interrupted, Dr. Wos said, “This person did not have symptoms on bus. This person has not been diagnosed with any specific condition yet.”
Guess they're going to have to start reporting on IS decapitations again, at least until something more shocking comes along.
Dont's worry CNBC, the CIA has your back if you need us to produce some content.
10 days ago, I flat out refused to fly round trip from Newark to West Palm Beach for a business meeting with a 36 hour turn-around. After much pressure, I did the trip on October 29 - 30.
Folks, the airplanes are packed; the airports are too; and no one whispers about getting sick in an airline environment. No masks; rubber suits; no gloves; no signs; no announcements; no sniffing dogs; no nothing.
I guess I will know in one month if I made the correct decision.
You mean you didn't wear your hazmat suit on the flight?
At least carry a clipboard...
Make it 42 days, 10% present between day 22-42.
Kinda like what the Japanese did with Fukushima... don't report, so it's not a problem.
Speaking of which,
where the fuck is FLOUNDER?
behind the scenes making news orgs agree to what he believes is or isn't news
This makes me nervous. It's like when Lew the Jew went from chief of staff to Treasury Secretary, and fell off the face of the Earth. At least we knew what Timmy was doing.
Spin those plates, Timmaay, faster, faster...
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According to new guidance from the CDC, the incubation time of Ebola lasts until one day after the election.
I was going to say the Congressional Suspension of the Debt Ceiling, too, but than I realized it is never coming back.
That's funny, cheap oil also ends one day after the election too.
Lol.
"Ebola is often detectable through a Real-Time RT-PCR test three to 10 days after a patient shows Ebola-like symptoms. However, CDC guidance says that a blood specimen should be taken as soon as a patient is suspected of having Ebola exposure."
http://www.modernhealthcare.com/article/20141010/NEWS/310109962
Seems to me if you want to stop this you don't wait till the test comes back positive..... you assume that it is positive... take all the precautions and if it comes back neg... well it was cheap insurance....
But this might be a great way to get rid of many of the undesirable unneeded superfluous humans....
By the way... this test will produce false neg...... just because the test comes back neg doesn't mean you don't have Ebola.....
I'm betting it can detect virus even before that. Our HCV PCR can detect as little as 15 copies/ml, quantifiable at 50 copies/ml. Viral loads of Ebola are in the Billions in the later stages. False negs are seen more frequently in EIA screening which just doesn't have the same sensitivity but are much cheaper to perform. Maybe some strains of Ebola are not detected by the primers they are using in PCR. They try to pick a very conserved region to catch all types but with a rapidly mutation RNA virus, primers may need to be adjusted.
Frankly I'm waiting for them to report Ebola deaths as due to DIC or systemic organ failure. This is how death statistics are skewed. Patients were reported as dying from a systemic fungal infection but really had HIV.
Miffed
I just don't see this taking off here and I am happy about that. The latest reports from Liberia have been encouraging as infections have dropped precipitously. What is your take on this? It was contained in a Washington Post article this evening. http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/africa/as-ebola-declines-in-liberia-...
Look at the official Ebola outbreaks starting in 1976. It has taken nearly 40 years for it to have finally got a foothold in major city where it went rampant. We are allowing 150 people a day into this country from infected regions. These individuals are flying into major cities not remote villages with primitive medical facilities. Maybe we will get lucky and nothing with catch fire. But allowing this possibility is the height of hubris and stupidity IMHO.
This could be just too personal for me. After nine years of faithfully using birth control I convinced my husband not to one night stating " it would be remote chance of happening." *sigh*
Miffed;-)
Congrats! And I mean that wholeheartedly.
Ifyou're like my wife and I, don't think you have 6months for the chemical to wear off...more like 6 days.
I could not take oral birth control. Made me violently sick and gained an incredible amount of weight the 3 weeks I tried. So it was condoms for the whole time( my husband was not happy) but looking back, it probably was a good thing. I haven't had many of the female issues haunting women today and wonder if this had something to do with it. Who knows? Would make for an interesting study but I'm sure the results would never see the light of day if they showed a particular outcome.
Miffed
I just don't see this taking off here and I am happy about that. The latest reports from Liberia have been encouraging as infections have dropped precipitously. What is your take on this? It was contained in a Washington Post article this evening. http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/africa/as-ebola-declines-in-liberia-...
Sorry about the double post, too much coffee today.
Second, third and fourth questions...
1) Is there a point where new infections could swamp the African ability to respond to and contain the outbreak (or can we always scale up) and when do we get there?
2) What is the possibilty that a more virulent mutation could arise and would it be best to stop all non-essential travel now (W. African lockdown with it's negative economic effects) or just wait until that mutation emerges?
3) On a concern scale of 1 to 10 you are currently a ?
On our concerned scale we are currently at DEFCON 1 (highest). We are working actively to finish our long term preping in the next few months. I almost cancelled the one business trip of the year but decided the current risks are about equal to winning the lottery. I cashed out of the rising S&P 500 my remaining bets to fund the preping.
Miffed is likely receive a flu sample from from some liar that really is ebola and its over. Her level 2 equipment can't protect her against a level 4 agent. It will contaminate the entire hospital lab. We noted that one of the Duncan health professionals quarantined was a "lab supervisor" which is someone that is only going to walk through the room that was contaminated when the "flu" sample is opened and unkowingly handled as a level 2 agent.
The sparks will keep flying into the USSA until the fire in Africa is put out. We can't know when one of those sparks will catch but the health providers are essentially on the fron line with no helmet and no gun facing random mortar fire.
Thanks for the report, MMM.
There was an 'interview' on NPR rhis evening, where some woman was saying Duncan got shitty care from the hospital, and it was the hospital's fault and blah blah blah.
Dallas Presby was mostly a maternity hospital and Duncan walked into the ER there. Now it has 0 patients. And there's no point suing Duncan's worthless relatives for his stupidity because they don't have any money.
And this can happen now to any hospital in the country. 100 or so real US ebola cases and our entire medical care system is done for.
Great questions.
1) already happened
2) a two part answer. A. by the time we realize a mutaion occurred it will already have happened. chances are it will be detected in a modern western country with the ability to do PCR and compair it to known types. B. ebola could mutate, but chances are that it would mutate to something less virulent. there are only a few mutations that could make it worse.
3) 2. Worry about car accidents or cholesterol. on a relative risk scale, much more likely to get you killed.
As for 3), that is true right now (Nov. 3).
But it's entirely possible for this bug to take off here. We have seen numerous examples in the last few weeks, showing how utterly unready the USA is for an outbreak. We have never really seen such a 'hot' virus here. A few cases of Dengue from the tropics of Central America maybe, but never a real outbreak of a Level 4 pathogen.
I agree with 2b...but not totally. Yes, most mutations make things less virulent...however, with a mortality rate of 50-70%, if it dropped in half but the easy of transmission doubled, then we are still in trouble. 25-35% mortality and the thing able to run through the entire population. Doesn't sound to like an enticing venture to me.....
If it continues to spread in Africa, containment chances will drop to zero,
but be happy, don't worry.
Technical question -- does PCR work the same with RNA as it does with DNA? Is there a different PCR enzyme, or different protocol for it?
You can't apply PCR to RNA directly.
Google RT-PCR (reverse transcription PCR). A piece of viral machinery called reverse transcriptase first converts RNA to a unique DNA sequence, and PCR amplification can then be applied to that, Wiki has a good summary.
You just took all the fun out of it. Yeah, it's in Wikipedia.
I was hoping for a quick answer from MM.
Hmm ... in a more ZH-related question, which publicly-traded biotechs are brewing RT and polymerase? All of them? Is it more or less public domain now?
Sorry, work and life just is so intrusive! Unfortunately retirement is not likely in my future.
We perform PCR on DNA ( BKV and CMV) and RNA ( HCV and HIV) viruses. Yes the steps are a little different for each but the process of denaturing, thermocycling, annealing are similar. The primers bind to the complementary strands enzymatically using a heat stable polymerase called Taq ( this is critical, PCR cannot occur without this, google Taq polymerase, fascinating discovery) which assembles a new DNA strand from nucleotides (like a building blocks) by using single-stranded DNA as a template. We call the product an Ampicon. This is laboratory created DNA. This is done over and over ( usually 20-40 times) each time is called a cycle. Each cycle is a doubling because the DNA is " melted" into 2 and the primers create another amplicon on the halves which is melted again on the next cycle.
The problem with amplicons is they are able to be amplified again unless specifically made not to be. So if I was going to see if there is virus in a patients sample but when I opened the tube of blood and there were amplicons floating around in the lab ( they can ride on dust) the amplicon could land in the sample and I would reamplify it. This would be a false positive. I am detecting an Ampicon not virus in the sample. There is no way to tell the difference. Contamination is always a problem doing PCR. Many companies add uracil to their amplicons to prevent reamplification but it is not foolproof. Generally the dangers of PCR will be false positives rather than negatives. I am not sure how sophisticated the PCR is being done on suspected Ebola patients. If it's " home brew", contamination would be a definite problem. I've used the equivalent of a flame thrower to get rid of home brewed PCR contamination with little luck to remove it completely. Anyone in molecular diagnostics that breaks a cuvette and spills any sample, no matter how minute knows they are potentially in deep shit with their coworkers.
Miffed
Interesting stuff, thanks for getting back. One stray molecule ... of course that makes sense in a lab setting where you are amplifying single molecules.
I hadn't paid much attention to this tech area since reading the story of Kary Mullis, long ago.
My brother did some optics design work for a sequencing project about 20 years ago, he's retired now. The sequencer my brother worked on was not like the one Richard Preston described in his new ebola article. It sequenced long strands, running for days and weeks on a single sample. According to Preston, they now break the strands into shorter strands, tag them, and do massively parallel sequencing on the short strands. And then employ computer power to recover the information in the complete strand.
+1000
And most cancer victims die of kidney failure.