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The Election (In 1 'Uncomfortably Divided' Nation Chart)
Isn't it ironic that the demographic in America that has seen the largest job growth during the 'recovery' turned out in droves to vote (against the incumbents) while the generation that remain mired in student debt, living at home with their mom-and-dad in record amounts, and having lost hope of the American Dream were apparently uninterested in 'change'. Perhaps, just perhaps, the elder generation still believes there is a difference between the two parties... or perhaps they are the ones who are most pissed as the promises of sipping margaritas on a golden beach in retirement is crushed into the reality of working to your grave at Home Depot...
Irony?
h/t @NBCNews
Which is ironic given that the Over-60s (and only over-60s) have been hired in droves...
Here is the breakdown of job gains by all age groups since the start of the depression in December 2007: 5.5 million jobs "gained" in the 55-69 age group. What about the core, 25-54 demographic? Negative 2.04 million.
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As Bloomberg's Richard Breslow noted this morning,
U.S. midterm elections yday turned out pretty much like the polls suggested; I was a little surprised to see how many stories led with economy and how many exit polls said that -- it may have been the economy, but it’s not that it’s doing particularly poorly. If anything, the numbers are doing ok, it’s that people felt the distribution of the “ok” had got the balance out of whack, that neither party was listening to Main Street, aka, the citizenry.
Democrats had the bad misfortune of being the Ins, and the Ins got thrown out. This really was a wakeup call for the establishment writ large, not particularly a poke at the Democrats other than more is expected from them
Having said that, elections have consequences, so we’re in for an interesting period; I did read one portfolio manager in Europe saying this would be good for the economy, decision making would pick up. I don’t see it - I think you just have an electorate that felt deserted by the people they thought would protect them, and Washington became synonymous with Wall St. Helps explain a lot of more populous frustrations globally.
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Forget racism, prepare for ageism.
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You say Election, we say Selection. Just Semantics Bitchezz!!
Yeah baby!
OLD FARTS KICK SOME ASS!
But wait and see what we do to the lib-shits come 2016 elections!
So the chart says we become like Japan.
We all knew that we are following in Japan's footsteps...
I'm turning Japanese
I think I'm turning Japanese,
I really think so..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEmJ-VWPDM4
I'm counting on Japan to self-destruct before we have an opportunity to follow too much further in their footsteps.
We like them so much we will follow them into the abyss.
It is not a choice, Japan are beta US
I agree but the question is will they be able to convince the sheep that we are not like Japan, for this reason or that. Kyle Bass (Smartest guy in the room in my opinion) thinks the US will come around when they see the Japanese destruction but I have my doubts.
You're right. We're way too exceptional for the Japanese lesson to mean anything to us.
Hubris has killed us. Along with a healthy dose of malevolent intent from the government within.
Obama was elected to bring back our jobs from overseas and end these foreign entanglements.
Instead, Obama pushed for unnecessary gun regulations, wants to give amnesty to illegal immigrants, doubled down on trickle down Reaganomics, and got us deeper involved in the middle east.
Basically Obama upset many moderate voters. As a result, Hillary is NOT guarantee in 2016.
well how many pols ran on cutting back the tsa or hls or the patriot act?? wake me up when they remove those chains oh and the IRS ?? as for the FED we can only hope-- that's the ticket :hope and chains.
You gorgot to add that he double down on the national debt....
Hillary has 2 years to reload her ashtray
Until an iVote app becomes available this is how it will be.
Or simply the next generation doesn't buy into the bullshit left-right "choice". I told a millenial why I didn't vote and the guy gave me a high five. The internet has spoiled the party for the old fuckers.
Funny how ponzi schemes always make those who got in late hate those who got in early.
If you think that's bad, wait until everyone is trying to get out.
Bravo....and comments like "perhaps they are the ones who are most pissed as the promises of sipping margaritas on a golden beach in retirement is crushed into the reality of working to your grave at Home Depot..." makes me wonder who told these people they had to buy the giant house, or expensive car etc.....how you retire is up to you but it does take some smarts, if you did not save or invest or properly manage your liabilities then why is it someone else's fault?
All true but ZIRP also made it tough.
The last of my parents' 7% CDs are expiring and they have no idea how to safely invest the cash and get a return.
Keeping it under the mattress is looking pretty good compared to a 0.25% CD considering how quickly they could have it in hand if the SHTF.
Decentralizing power is the only way to avoid more wars and smooth over these divides. By applying 1 solution to a country this diverse youre bound to start a civil war eventually.
The 10th Amendment rounded everything off for a reason and gave the states equal footing. Its time to recapture that or these tyrants will boil us to death...
Begin holding your breath.
Or loading your weapon.
continental congress, and neuter the Federal Dictatorship.
There is no turning back now. Past the event horizon. We'll have to go through the black hole of complete collapse to see what life is like on the other side. Sorry.
Decentralizing power is the only way to avoid more wars and smooth over these divides. By applying 1 solution to a country this diverse youre bound to start a civil war eventually.
The 10th Amendment rounded everything off for a reason and gave the states equal footing. Its time to recapture that or these tyrants will boil us to death...
Decentralizing power is the only way to avoid more wars and smooth over these divides. By applying 1 solution to a country this diverse youre bound to start a civil war eventually.
The 10th Amendment rounded everything off for a reason and gave the states equal footing. Its time to recapture that or these tyrants will boil us to death...
I've heard this argument before...
if you like your two party system, you can keep your two party sistem, and have a two age class war to boot
no reason to complicate matters if you can... keep it... simple
No problems in the deathbed demographics in Europe where you can vote for a variety of socialists across the spectrum from green to red to nationalist. Not a lot of candidates for alternatives to serfdom. No hint of a way out other than treading water whilst going down with the spiraling currents. Oh hang on, there's Islam coming along nicely.
sure. only because you never heard of conservative parties in Europe it means we don't have them, eh? btw, "nationalist"? "red", too?
Every election in a simple to read article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divide_and_rule
And that wouldnt triple post if it wasn't for all of these fucking pop up ads. Get rid of them ya fucking dick bags...
get adblock plus.
Americans 60 and over are both mostly Americans(a key proxy for hatred of Obama) and less interested in issues vaginal than hormonally addled youths. The Republican War On Our Ladyparts doesn't work there.
Were you crying all night? Maybe you should head over to dailykos for a group hug. One lunatic over there said "we are more reality based". Wrong, Lefty!!! You delusional moonbats continue, over and over, forever and ever, to reach for some utopia that ONLY exists in the future. And on the rare occasion you actually "get there", it always devolves into mass genocide and/or starvation. So you want to slaughter your unborn? Well, if you live in the middle of the country maybe you will have to travel to the coast where they are OK with that. This is a states rights issue. If people "hate" Obama, it is because he is a communist and a pathological liar. Oh, and Hillary has no chance now.
uh, women's rights is not a state issue at all. in fact, it isn't even a federal issue. The SCOTUS has already ruled that women can kill their children, even after they are born. This whole war on women is a made up issue. the issues are already resolved. women can have abortions, and with obamacare, you and i already pay for women to have free birth control pills. there is no friggin war on women.
However, that has not stopped women from believing that there indeed is a republican agenda against them, and that only the demoncrats can save them. clueless. my mother, who is well past child bearing age, is fearful that the republicans are going to take away her right to kill me. its total lunacy. Sandra Puke, please take your free contraception. you should n't be reproducing.
Note: This election had nothing to do with the war on women. However, the democrats couldn't stand on anything else they have done (obamacare, ISIS, middleeast meltdown, Economy, etcc....) so they went back to the made up war on women. "The Republicans hate women. they hate blacks. jim crow and no abortions. they want you barefoot and pregnant, working at the stove. voodoo). and, by and large, the masses didn't buy it this time. fucking democrats are pathetic.
Instead of passing a law, the SC declared that denying one woman an abortion was unconstitutional on some "right to privacy" nonsense. But technically, it SHOULD be a states-rights issue.
Um, I thought I posted enough here to not get misread 180 degrees by another regular poster, but no.
Unless you put a SARCASM tag you may be misread by the brothers who are stressed out, I got it but give the bros a break...
Yeah, that sure doesn't read like sarcasm but then again we are nursing a hangover.
The best sarcasm doesn't read like sarcasm. In fact it isn't sarcasm, it's satire. For the work of a master, I refer you to Million Dollar Bonus.
With Obama the US got exactly what it deserved, now six years later the emperor is without clothes, the nation has been wounded but is not dead. Long live the USA !!
Romney would have been fabulous for sure. We missed out on that one.
The lesser of 2 evils is still evil.
The young folk should create a new government and leave ours alone.
I am in the older group myself. I went to the polls yesterday to vote against a bond issue to spend more of my money. A lot of older people around here did the same. The candidates are all the same and make no difference. There are some local issues that do make a difference. Trying to figure out an election based only on the national or state picture will be misleading at best.
With you! 4 questions on our ballot, candidates mean nothing.
"became synonymous with Wall St" They didnt become synonymous with wall st, they ARE wall st.
Well, when O brings in the ebola patients and the 16 million 80 IQ latin americans it'll get better.
This really was a wakeup call for the establishment writ large...
what a crock. the establishment offered two choices, brand a and brand b. no difference whatsoever to them which ones get picked. they will all go back to business as usual tomorrow.
Those that lost will move to K street so they can lobby those that won.
Obamacare was passed on straight party lines with a 60 vote unfilibusterable margin in the Senate. One more republican in the Senate back then and no Obamacare. But yeah there is no difference between the parties.
yep, planned by TPTB to divide us so we don't unite.
One in eight people in high school were complete douchebags too.
Maybe the under-30s couldn't afford a car, or gas, or bus fare, to get themselves out to vote.
Was at an extended family gathering last night. The people in their 50s and 60s are employed in good jobs while their 20-something kids are living at home and bouncing from minimum wage job to minimum wage job.
I think these kids thought it was great when Madame Pelosi was selling Obamacare and telling them that they could be artists and do whatever and not to worry since they'd have health insurance. Now that they see that for the most part, 20 somethings don't need health insurance but do need jobs that have career growth potential. The 20-somethings have already made it to at least assistant manager at the store in the mall.
Young people have nothing to gain by voting, none of the parties represent them.
Parties pick the people with money to represent.
Young people dont have money, the old are hoarding it all and all the new laws and regulations create barriers to entry for positions that pay anything worth your time.
get rid of all laws, and make everything right to work and young people would be richer than old people.
In Denver the under 30s were all stoned....that is a fact man
Soma
I will move back to Denver and open a 24 hour bakery.
Mmmmmmmm, icing!!!! :)
The reason your seeing these numbers is 1) The younger generations have lost faith that voting will fix what ails this nation. and 2) The older generation who are fully invested in and dependant on the system came out to see what little they can do in a futile attempt to try and save what has been promised to them by lying self interested politicians.
A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the majority discovers it can vote itself largess out of the public treasury. After that, the majority always votes for the candidate promising the most benefits with the result the democracy collapses because of the loose fiscal policy ensuing, always to be followed by Tyranny. -De Tocqueville
”People willing to trade their freedom for temporary security deserve neither and will lose both.” -Ben Franklin
Prepare for the end of America, it happens slowly then all at once. http://newamerica-now.blogspot.com/2014/02/beyond-collapse.html
well, maybe it's not only about jobs. Maybe it's about debt, IRS, Benghazi, war in a dozen countries, Veteran healthcare, and on, and on, and on.
It's well known that seniors vote, and tend to vote conservatively, AND vote in midterm elections.
Meanwhile, the younger crowd can't be bothered to show up in midterms. They only show up for the presidential elections. Oh, and they care about important stuff like gay marriage and free pot. They are so ignorant that they don't even know how corrupt the federal government is. Thus, they aren't even aware of how angry they should be, and therefore stirred enough to get off the iTard and vote.
Isn't it ironic that the demographic in America that has seen the largest job growth during the 'recovery' turned out in droves to vote (against the incumbents) while the generation that remain mired in student debt, living at home with their mom-and-dad in record amounts, and having lost hope of the American Dream were apparently uninterested in 'change'. Perhaps, just perhaps, the elder generation still believes there is a difference between the two parties... or perhaps they are the ones who are most pissed as the promises of sipping margaritas on a golden beach in retirement is crushed into the reality of working to your grave at Home Depot...
poetic justice for the free $hit army
[given their PRIOR choices, as in.... electing obozo (and the rest of the kommmie klowns).... TWICE]
Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard.
~ mencken
sipping margaritas on a golden beach in retirement...
“75% of Americans nearing retirement in 2010 had less than $30,000 in their retirement accounts.” – Teresa Ghilarducci, professor of economics at the New School for Social Research
http://www.forbes.com/sites/edwardsiedle/2013/03/20/the-greatest-retirement-crisis-in-american-history/print/
After a lifetime of working, the median Boomer household near retirement has managed to accumulate $12,000 of retirement savings ($100,000 for those with a retirement account). The typical working-age household has only $3,000 in retirement account assets. – from Jim Quinn's analysis of 2010 SCF
And of the small savings that people do have, Bernanke and Yellen have robbed them of more than $750 billion through 2013* in ZIRP – expected to top $1 trillion in 2014. (The heist would be greater if based on the true inflation rate per Shadowstats rather than the Fed’s low-ball, gimmicked inflation rate.)
Indeed, Bernanke himself acknowledged as much in a 2011 press conference: “We are quite aware that very low interest rates, particularly for a protracted period, do have costs for a lot of people. They have costs for savers. We have complaints from banks that their net interest margins are affected by low interest rates. Pension funds will be affected if low interest rates for a protracted period require them to make larger contributions. So we are aware of those concerns, and we take them very seriously. I think the response is, though, that there is a greater good here, which is the health and recovery of the U.S. economy.”
*http://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-fed-is-deliberately-stealing-from-savers-2014-10-22?page=2
And now to compete with and totally destroy their meager buying power after they are too old to work, the inflationists want to raise the minimum wage to $15 an hour, i.e., to a $31,200 minimum. Old age in America has gone from "golden" to bleak.
"I think the response is, though, that there is a greater good here, which is the health and recovery of the U.S. economy.”
The design is to multiply the wealth of the super rich by a large factor and to destroy the middle class. This is not a "by product". THIS IS THE GOAL PERIOD. Do not over complicate it.
Dup
While waiting to vote I was watching with utter amazement how long it took many of the people to vote.
Those are the ones who will be easily rounded up and sent to camp.
Will they have cake there?
Yes Sir! lots of cake.
Ok I'm going.
Don't you young whippersnappers fuck with my Social Security or I'll show ya the business end of "Mr Pincus" whom I am holding in my avatar :)
Yeee Hawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!!
Bring it ON bitchez!!
hairball
PS
I still have a part time job which I ain't giving up. Most youngsters couldn't do it anyway because it requires logical thinking and the ability to think critically....something schools seem to believe isn't important anymore
A $15 an hour minimum wage is $31,200 a year. The average monthly SS benefit for a retired worker in April 2014 was $1,252 monthly, or $15,024; the average survivor benefit, $1,083 monthly as of April 2014. Thus the value of Social Security for which workers have paid into most of their working lives is now much lower than the minimum wage will be for unskilled workers in Seattle.
Raising the minimum wage above market rates is a form of wealth transfer at the expense of America’s working middle class – a further deliberate wipeout of middle class assets by socialism, anticipated and imposed by the 1965 Immigration Act pro-Third World crowd.
"a further deliberate wipeout of middle class assets by socialism, anticipated and imposed by the 1965 Immigration Act pro-Third World crowd."
The KEY to understanding the 1965 Immigration Act
Thanks, Skip. Excerpts from Stanley Hornbeck’s review of Kevin MacDonald's The Culture of Critique explain what’s happened to America from California to New Hampshire:
“The intellectual movements Prof. MacDonald discusses in this volume are Marxism, Freudian psychoanalysis, the Frankfurt school of sociology, and Boasian anthropology. Perhaps most relevant from a racial perspective, he also traces the role of Jews in promoting multi-culturalism and Third World immigration. Throughout his analysis Prof. MacDonald reiterates his view that Jews have promoted these movements as Jews and in the interests of Jews, though they have often tried to give the impression that they had no distinctive interests of their own. Therefore Prof. MacDonald's most profound charge against Jews is not ethnocentrism but dishonesty -- that while claiming to be working for the good of mankind they have often worked for their own good and to the detriment of others. While attempting to promote the brotherhood of man by dissolving the ethnic identification of gentiles, Jews have maintained precisely the kind of intense group solidarity they decry as immoral in others.
“Prof. MacDonald claims that one of the most consistent ways in which Jews have advanced their interests has been to promote pluralism and diversity -- but only for others. Ever since the 19th century, they have led movements that tried to discredit the traditional foundations of gentile society: patriotism, racial loyalty, the Christian basis for morality, social homogeneity, and sexual restraint. At the same time, within their own communities, and with regard to the state of Israel, they have often supported the very institutions they attack in gentile society.
“Why is this in the interests of Jews? Because the parochial group loyalty characteristic of Jews attracts far less attention in a society that does not have a cohesive racial and cultural core. The Jewish determination not to assimilate fully, which accounts for their survival as a people for thousands for years -- even without a country -- has invariably attracted unpleasant and even murderous scrutiny in nations with well -defined national identities. In Prof. MacDonald's view it is therefore in the interest of Jews to dilute and weaken the identity of any people among whom they live. Jewish identity can flower in safety only when gentile identity is weak.”
Perhaps thinking logically and/or critically isn't considered unimportant as much as dangerous. An electorate that can put 2 and 2 together and get 4 (without the aid of an app, that is) is dangerous to the controllers.
Precisely right. George Carlin NAILED it in that 3 minute video
I live in a California liberal stronghold which means my vote never counts and taxes are always approved. I have to talk to Simon about liquidating my portion of the titanic so I can sip Margaritas someplace on this planet in peace.
One place for escape from California's transfer-of-wealth vote might be what Rich Benjamin has called Whitopia.
In a review of Benjamin’s book, Searching for Whitopia, David Callahan writes that “many of the whitest parts of America (which are also the most Republican parts) are home to people who have intentionally left less white places in search of what my colleague Rich Benjamin has called Whitopias: nearly all-white communities or regions.
"Rich's book shows that super white fast-growing suburban and exurban parts of Tennessee, Georgia, Missouri, Kentucky, and other states are filled with transplants who have left more diverse inner suburbs or cities. Out West, white flight migrants from California and Arizona have driven much of the growth of Colorado, Utah, and Idaho over the past two decades.
"These Americans often long for the whiter America of earlier times and have sought to re-create that white America far from the central cities. Which is to say that they are very different from what we imagine to be the prototypical white conservative voter -- a small-town type who's never strayed far and fears the unknown. Whitopia residents have seen diverse America first hand, and they disliked it so much that they picked up and moved."
http://www.demos.org/blog/7/18/13/white-flight-white-fight-immigration
I think nationally the economy and its reason, major reason, why so many Americans cannot find work, immigration and all that goes with it, motivated a lot of people, that and the diseases that come along with it:
Immigrant-Supplied EV-D68 Illnesses Spread. CDC Dodges. WHERE IS GOP?
EV-D68 Cases Leap 134% In October: CDC Buries News
This is the newest article and I have to tell you looking at the photo of that little blonde child now paralyzed for life from shoulders down thanks to Obama letting the Central Americans in this summer and spreading them ALL OVER THE USA.
Obama’s EV-D68 Polio Reintroduction: Time For Impeachment
NEW HAMPSHIRE: 71% of New Jobs Go to Foreign Born
Report: 71 Percent of New Jobs Go to Foreign Born Legal, Illegal
Immigrants in NH
October 30, 2014
Now Blue states continued their evil:
Washington voters choose gun control; huge majority in Seattle area
So if a Grandpa at the range gave his rifle to his grandsons to shoot he would be committing a felony. That is what Bloomberg, Paul Allen, Bill Gates, Steve Ballmer and Hedge Fund Billionaire and fellow tribe member Nick Hanauer's money bought. The opposing side had pennies to spend, and the Democrat city council woman was STEALING the pro-2nd amendment signs and the DA declined to prosecute. JUSTICE in the USSA!
I think it behooves each and every single one of us, AND OUR FAMILIES, to join the NRA.
http://www.nrahq.org/
Because the Bolsheviks are prepared to do their WORST and believe me, that is TOO TERRIBLE to contemplate.
California’s bell weather status for the immigration tsunami can now be New Hampshire - "As NH goes, so goes America." In California, we know what’s happening; thus, this is even more critical information:
“New Hampshire’s working-age immigrant population grew 70 percent from 2000 to 2014. Yet the number of working-age natives working in 2014 was only slightly above the number in 2000 and the share with a job actually fell. This undermines the argument that immigration on balance increases job opportunities for natives…
… there were nearly 41,000 more working-age natives not working in the first half of 2014 than in 2000 — a 25 percent increase…with 71 percent of its job growth going to foreign-born workers, including legal and illegal immigrants.
…yet Sens. Jeanne Shaheen (D-N.H.) and Kelly Ayotte (R-N.H.) both voted for the ‘Gang of Eight’ immigration bill, which cleared the Senate which CIS calculated would have roughly doubled the number of new foreign workers allowed into the country and would have given legal status to millions of illegal aliens already in the country had the legislation been passed by the House and become law.”
Join the NRA? That's about as useful as joining the republican party.
Election 2014: Mixed results on GMO labeling, cannabis initiatives
http://wtfrly.com/2014/11/05/election-2014-gmo-labeling-cannabis-initiat...
sure, younger people don't want to be taxes heavier than prior generations....but even if they didn't mind, the point here is that not only is the next generation smaller, they are also less employed and so dont' even have the earning power to be taxed at any level close to being needed to close the gap.
if you are thinking about retiring, don't (unless you have health issues...enloy life). But the gov has lied to you in that all the SS and medical benefits will be paid. only way they will be met is with printing of money, which will only decrease your purchasing power with inflation.
The sad part is that most of this country is simple, not dumb or ignorant, just simple. these are somewhat complex issues, and they were promised certain things. the math says they won't be there. The gov lied to you...they usually always do. which is why the only answer is smaller, simpler, more transparent gov. But the only thinking bringing that will be the eventual revolution after we go full socialist in 20 years or so.
Actually, I thought we were going to go full feudalist in 20 years or so.
Millennials, the new slacker generation when they don't get what they want
Has the "purposefully deliberative and slow moving" senate (a.k.a. "do-nothing senate") just been replaced by the most relentlessly hyperactive bill-passing senate in American history? Just asking.
Only if the bills fund the Department of War, militarize police departments, or funnel public money to Wall Street banks and Oil companies.
Being a thug is the shit now..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2daFOY9e4Q
The age differential is huge in terms of voting numbers -- but what I found most troubling is the fact that 80% of the country (geographically) voted 'Red' -- but CNN kept focusing on counties like the DC suburbs, Charlotte, Miami, Des Moines, and other 'urban' areas that are Democrat strongholds. This divide is MOAR HUGE, especially in many of the close races. It very likely focuses on the spread between the 'payers of taxes' and the 'takers of free stuff'. It is not age that will bring chaos -- but the battle between those that pay taxes versus those that do not.
OK, I have a small quibble: the over-60s have not been "hired in droves". The gain by that cohort is due mainly to over-60s remaining in the workforce longer, and the second-half of the baby-boomers arriving in that cohort en masse.
Most over-60s can no longer afford to retire, as pensions have been scrapped in favor of 401-Ks, thus raising the question of whether retirees will run out of money before they run out of time. At the same time, the return on savings and bonds has been crushed. No joy there. Stocks are looked upon as risky, essentially putting ones well-being under the influence of market manipulators. Social security COLA is deceitfully understated, even while the continued existence of that program in its present form comes under pressure. In the end, the only financial security most over-60s have is a paycheck.
What with taking care of elderly parents, recovering from extortionate tuitions to put their kids through college, watching their financial assets get slaughtered during the financial meltdown, and having real wages stagnant for decades, the upshot should be obvious to everyone. Most won't be able to retire until nearly 70.