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Initial Jobless Claims Beats, 4-Week Average Nears 40-Year Lows

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Despite a surge in job cuts, initial jobless claims beat expectations dropping to just 278k (the 2nd lowest of the cycle). The smoother 4-week average dropped to its lowest since April 2000 - nearing levels not seen since 1974... time for moar QE? Continuing claims also dropped to cycle lows... so why did the electorate "throw the bums out" yesterday?

Claims trend nears 40-year low

 

Chart: Bloomberg

 

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Thu, 11/06/2014 - 09:41 | 5419090 Dungholio
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 DOW 18K today?

Thu, 11/06/2014 - 09:56 | 5419136 GetZeeGold
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Forget the article you read earlier.....this one trumps that.

 

Job Cuts Surge 68%, Most In 3 Years; Worst October Since 2009

Thu, 11/06/2014 - 10:09 | 5419198 max2205
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People don't buy stawks machines buy staaaawwwwwks

Thu, 11/06/2014 - 10:10 | 5419202 boogerbently
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.....and the GOP has only been in power ONE DAY !!!!

SEE.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thu, 11/06/2014 - 10:17 | 5419231 casey13
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And will be revised next month to the true figures once nobody gives a damn.

Thu, 11/06/2014 - 09:41 | 5419094 Ancona
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Lies, damned lies and statistics......

Thu, 11/06/2014 - 09:53 | 5419133 Stoploss
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Recovery Bitchezzz!

Thu, 11/06/2014 - 13:32 | 5420150 foodstampbarry
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Green Shootz Bitchezz!

Thu, 11/06/2014 - 09:43 | 5419103 Panic Mode
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So bullish, it hurts. 

Thu, 11/06/2014 - 09:47 | 5419111 Ban KKiller
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Time to stock up on fiat...yen? Ha, ha, ha!  At under sixteen who isn't buying?

Or buy a super tanker of oil? A county in North Dakota? Ammo?

Or an Ebola soaked whore to donate to JP Morgan?

Thu, 11/06/2014 - 09:52 | 5419118 Silverhog
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Must be time to whack the snot out of Gold again. Rotten system. Poor miners.

Thu, 11/06/2014 - 11:01 | 5419433 litemine
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I have the opposite feeling that I will use my CASH to go with. The FED is failing....with your Tax Money and I want Insurance EG. GOLD.

You can follow the Media all you want, check the Employed numbers in a chart for the last 25 years.....Unemployment down......That is reality. Debt is rising and holdin "Gold as Value" is my Insurance.

End the Fed...............Economist's think in's a science.....Sorry. That is not the case it is a study of the past and that has been Manipulated. 

Thu, 11/06/2014 - 09:51 | 5419125 LawsofPhysics
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This information seems a bit inconsistent with the data on job cuts...

Thu, 11/06/2014 - 11:22 | 5419533 Doubleguns
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As has been pointed out previously you can not claim unemployment if you lost one of your three jobs. Lots of job losses does not mean you can make a claim. That part time job at Micky Dees just kept you from claiming unemployment. 

Thu, 11/06/2014 - 09:51 | 5419127 NoWayJose
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You cannot become 'unemployed' if you haven't been able to find a job for the past 5 years!

Thu, 11/06/2014 - 09:54 | 5419135 techstrategy
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Exit all float scams and buy physical gold.   The charade will fail. 

Thu, 11/06/2014 - 09:59 | 5419154 matt1021_98
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It's amazing to see these message boards turn more and more anti zerohedge. Credibility is fading to black. This is the exact sign I need to start believing the near case is near.

Thu, 11/06/2014 - 10:01 | 5419159 matt1021_98
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*bear case

Thu, 11/06/2014 - 10:12 | 5419211 GetZeeGold
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Member for 6 weeks 6 days

It will all start to make sense next week......just hang in there.
Thu, 11/06/2014 - 10:01 | 5419155 headhunt
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Initial Claims + Existing Claims + Under Employed + Disability Claims + Jobs taken by millions of illegals = Unemployment at all time highs

Thu, 11/06/2014 - 10:16 | 5419221 d edwards
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Just wait until f-ing 0bola does his amnesty thing for millions more illegal invaders.

Thu, 11/06/2014 - 10:32 | 5419292 headhunt
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Lets hope the House and Senate will squash this through legal means

Thu, 11/06/2014 - 10:41 | 5419326 cheech_wizard
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I'd prefer they deal with him like the Roman Senate dealt with Julius Caeser.

Thu, 11/06/2014 - 11:01 | 5419444 roadhazard
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You sound like the Repubicans are working for You. Watch the Repubicans sell out for future votes.

Thu, 11/06/2014 - 10:05 | 5419181 insanelysane
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I believe someone posted it last week but when you lose one of these new recovery jobs you aren't eligible for unemployment so you aren't counted and your recovery job was paying so little you were already on food stamps.

Thu, 11/06/2014 - 10:42 | 5419332 adr
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Exactly, you lose a part time minimum wage job and you aren't eligible for unemployment. Also if you work three part time jobs and lose one, you aren't eligible.

Any data point that can move the market higher is pure manipulated BS. Any data point that is real is ignored and reported as inconsequential.

Thu, 11/06/2014 - 14:51 | 5420531 JMT
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Whose fault is that exactly??  Watching TV, smoking weed after work doesn't increase ones marketability...   If one is working at a job that they are getting paid 'so little' then they have to look in the mirror and take responsibility first

Thu, 11/06/2014 - 14:51 | 5420532 JMT
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Whose fault is that exactly??  Watching TV, smoking weed after work doesn't increase ones marketability...   If one is working at a job that they are getting paid 'so little' then they have to look in the mirror and take responsibility first

Thu, 11/06/2014 - 11:20 | 5419518 Inspector Bird
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The loss of a part-time minimum wage "recovery" job is also allied with the fact you can't make your initial unemployment claim the day you're laid off.

The last time it happened to me (4 years ago), I had to wait for my severance to end.  Depending on how severance is provided (mine was weekly), you can either wait up to a week or multiple weeks.  My 2 months meant I didn't file until long after I was laid off.

 

I know you can file immediately and say you're receiving severance, which means the gov't doesn't pay out.  But who really does that?  I sure didn't and neither did any of my co-workers who joined me on the unemployment rolls.

I expect to see a jump in a few weeks.

Thu, 11/06/2014 - 11:42 | 5419635 Kreditanstalt
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The status of "unemployed from a real officially-recognized salary-paying JOB and eligible to actually MAKE a claim" is getting harder and harder to meet.

How many people actually meet this definition anymore when so many of us are self-employed, self-unemployed, part-time, retired forcibly, "not in labour force", "not actively seeking work", not earning enough to "make a claim", working under 30 hours a week, paid in cash, trying to make a go of it selling online or some such...?

The whole statistic of "initial claims" is a manipulated FARCE.

Thu, 11/06/2014 - 14:48 | 5420521 JMT
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self-unemployed, part-time, retired forcibly, "not in labour force", "not actively seeking work", not earning enough to "make a claim", working under 30 hours a week, paid in cash, trying to make a go of it selling online or some such...

 

Exactly how does the above allow one to earn income to pay rent which in many places is now close to $2,000 a month for a 700 Square ft one bedroom apartment utilities and parking NOT included??  

Self unemployed, not in labor force, not actively seeking work = permanently unemployable after a period of time.  If you an adult and don't have an upwardly mobile career trajectory you are pretty much SOL in the new economy of the 21st century. Anyone with 1/2 a brain would know that. 

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