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Ron Paul: "We Don't Have A Democracy... The US Political System Is A Monopoly"
"If a third party person gets anywhere along, they are going to do everything they can to stop that from happening," blasts Ron Paul, explaining to RT's Erin Ade that the 'monopoly' system run by the leaders of the two main parties was all too evident as Americans went to the polls this week. "It's a monopoly... and they don’t even allow a second option," Paul concluded, lashing out that "here at home, we don’t have true Democracy."
Paul, a longtime Republican, has been critical of the two-party dichotomy that dominates American politics for decades, and once ran as the Libertarian Party’s nominee for president of the United States. While third-party candidates continue to vie against the left and right establishment, however, Paul warned RT that even the two-party system as Americans know it is in danger.
“What do they do with our young people? They send them all around the world, getting involved in wars and telling them they have to have democratic elections,” he told RT.
“But here at home, we don’t have true Democracy. We have a monopoly of ideas that is controlled by the leaders of two parties. And they call it two parties, but it’s really one philosophy.”
All hope isn’t lost, however; according to Paul, American politics can still be changed if individuals intent on third-party ideas introduce their ethos to the current establishment. Americans can “fight to get rid of the monopoly of Republicans and Democrats,” Paul said, or “try to influence people with ideas and infiltrate both political parties.”
With respect to the midterm elections, though, Paul told RT that he’s uncertain what policies will prevail this year — excluding, of course, an obvious win for the status quo.
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According to the US Constitution, all individuals born (and naturalized) within the territories in which this corporation exerts an effective jurisdiction are cataloged as less than human beings (even lower animals are vested with natural and legal rights); these people automatically lose their quality of natural persons either by birth or naturalization; instead, they become Financial Instruments until the day they cease to exist - real or virtual documents representing a legal agreement involving some sort of monetary value.
Americans still believe in the paradigm that they are "free," when the reality is the opposite and the Constitution implicitly defines them as subservients: Article I, Section 2, third paragraph, first sentence (the legal scope of TheThree-Fifths Compromise went beyond the issue of slavery and the Thirteenth Amendment only nullified such ancient practice per se, must not its ulterior purpose). As a matter of jurisprudence this historical document adheres to the doctrine that Admiralty Law prevails over Common Law and goes in accordance with Canon Law.
We have a one party system. If you don't believe it, check out how Sen. Thad Cochran (R) of MS won his primary.
It's nauseating.
Ain't gonna be no President Rand Paul...
just an actor.
Ron Paul is THE Man, which is, of course, why the MSM totally deny his existence.
End The Fed (Starting with a FULL Audit) is the way to go, and why he is so feared by TPTB.
If he was so feared he would have had a nailgun accident by now.
He's so feared that millions went to vote thinking the Republicans has the answer...
Ron is right - spend any time in Washington and you'll quickly find they all eat at the same steakhouses, line their pockets via the same lobbyists, share apartments in Georgetown, they are friends!
CNN makes huge new blunder- confuses Osama with Obama during SEAL coverage
http://tinyurl.com/kl25xax
This pre-occupation wiht national politics is a waste of time and money. The guys pulling the strings in DC have waaaay more money and access than any constituent or group in "flyover country"-as DC likes to call it.
The "solution" is in local politics and state legislatures
Satanic Oligarchy
Ron Paul is an agent provocateur luciferian Rosicrucian.
LOL. stupid paulbots. I bet you guys can't wait until he has another fundraiser, or runs again, so you can line his pockets with another $20 million.
All I know is that he is the only politician I've listened to who has spoken the truth about the way things are in this country, especially economically. Go vote your red team or blue team and pretend that it makes a difference.
Hey there shitheel,
Ron Paul woke me up in 2012... which was well worth the 100 bucks I donated to his campaign.
Now go fuck yourself with a nailbat.
nailbat reference deserves an automatic thumbs up! Defending Dr. Paul from the many statists out there deserves a second thumbs up. Sadly, I can only give one.
Ask yourself why your libertarian savior ran on the Repug ticket in '08 and '12.
Ask yourself why he talks such a great game, yet doesn't actually DO anything.
No independent 9/11 investigation.
No bill to abolish the Fed.
Ask yourself why Ron Paul supporters were targeted in '08 and '12 as potential terrorists. Yes, it's true. Law enforcement were targeting Ron Paul supporters, and people who talked about the Constitution.
If he was such a threat, why isn't he dead???
Now ask yourself what an agent provocateur is.
Ron Paul spouts his bullshit rhetoric in order for the establishment to identify dissidents and potential revolutionaries. If he was an ACTUAL threat to the establishment status quo, in which he is FULLY entrenched, he'd be dead already.
Yet you dumbasses blindly put your faith and trust in a CAREER POLITICIAN. A Satan worshiping Rosicrucian. Who talks a halfassed good game, yet never practices what he peaches. He is a liar. And he worships the father of lies.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/apr/21/americas-oligarchy-not-d...
If you haven't percieved that -say oh in the last 20 years or so-somebody's not paying much attention.
Weird, in months past ZH would describe a short lived $6 move in gold as a "surge". Today, and at weeks end, gold rallies nearly $50 off its low and hardly a comment.
At this point, who reading zerohedge CAN'T quote the realtime price of gold off the top of their head?
Yeah, and I was away and missed that ZH did post a gold article.
And they don't even have the god damned common courtesy to give us a reach around!
Motor_Angel's roomate's stepmother will gladly give you a reach-around, for $75/hr. She made over $20,000 last month doing just that. Carpal tunnel's got her slowed down just a bit now, but I like it better that way.
How do I sign up? And BTW, can you post a picture of here please?
I may choose to go elsewhere for mine.
Ron,
Please tell you son to stop moving to the middle and sucking corporate cock.
Sincerely,
LetThemEatRand.
I held my nose and upvoted your post.
Now, back to not voting for anything or anyone anywhere...
Yes, corporate and Zionist cock. And Ron, you of all people should know that democracy is true evil.
Given that the parties are owned by corporations and Zionists who usurp the democratic process, is your solution to cut out the middle man (the voter)? Granted, it would save them money in buying elections, but I suppose they would still need to own the media and the Mises Institute of Canada in order to convince us that freedom = allowing oligarchs to run free.
I could sway your conviction.
Here by the American Patriots.
Graves,
By the inevitability of the moonlite,
And the reflection of the deeply hidden,
Proud monument of the Unforgotten,
Gents.
Sweet crunch of night steps,
On an easy autumn
Nighttime,
Water assault.
Formative flock of geezers.
In the unlit campfires,
Of this ancient river bottom village grounds.
There were/still are true Americans.
More rare than BigFoot.
+1 excellent post as always LTER
It's nice to read a left-libertarian challenge to the dominant right-libertarianism here on ZH.
For everyone else reading, here's the difference because this isn't trolling but its actual true disagreements with the direction libertarianism is going amongst the ZH readership
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-libertarianism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-libertarianism
I know. I know. That's left vs. right. It's a false paradigm!
Uh... no it's not. Democrat Party and Republican Party is a false paradigm, however left and right libertarianism isn't.
genuine question:
have either of the Paul's voiced their "views" on that ole litmus test, 9-11?
No. And I don't fault either of them. It would be a ticket to obscurity and "you're a tinfoil hat wearer!" for either of them to speak the truth.
Ron has stated his views clearly on that matter. He's never been afraid to speak his mind.
During a 2008 Republican presidential debate, Fox News’ Carl Cameron asked Ron Paul: “Many of your supporters call themselves ‘9/11 truthers.’ Are you prepared to either embrace that rhetoric or ask those supporters to abandon it?.. Paul replied, “I don’t believe that, and that’s the only thing that is important…”
In a Fox News interview in August 2007, host Julie Banderas asked Paul, “Do you believe that the 9/11 attack on the World Trade Center was an inside job?” Paul replied, “Well, the answer is no if they mean by ‘inside job’ that our government made it happen. No, I don’t believe that.”
In 2011, an internet interviewer asked Paul about this belief “that 9/11 was orchestrated by the government, you do not support that theory.” “Absolutely not,” Paul said sternly.
http://rare.us/story/ron-paul-im-not-a-911-truther/
Do you see the nuance in this response? "Do you believe that the 9/11 attack on the World Trade Center was an inside job?” Paul replied, “Well, the answer is no if they mean by ‘inside job’ that our government made it happen." That's hardly a, "no, it was not an inside job, period."
Clarify. What do you infer from that?
Why not a simple no? "No, it was guys with boxcutters you fool."
He will not go on record that it was not an inside job. He just won't blame the U.S. government as the insider.
So when Ron says that the September 11 attacks were a result of blowback from US involvement in the Middle East do you think that he's lying because he's afraid to go on record with his real opinion? From what I've seen Ron Paul doesn't lie and he is not the least bit afraid to go on record with what might be an unpopular opinion. That's how he earned the name "Dr. No."
You make a good point. I'm still wondering why he didn't do a simple Dr. No on the question above, though. Perhaps he was just hedging to please guys like me.
Ron is not wont to obfuscate for electoral gain. He speaks quite clearly; any confusion is in the ear of the listener:
CAMERON: Congressman Paul, many of your supporters call themselves 9/11 Truthers. They believe that the U.S. government was in some way complicit with the 9/11 attacks or covered it up.
Are you tonight prepared to either embrace that rhetoric or ask those supporters to abandon it, or divorce themselves from your candidacy?
PAUL: Well, I can't tell people what to do, but I've abandoned those viewpoints. I don't believe that, and that's the only thing that is important. And so I don't endorse anything they say.
But I would like to take an opportunity to talk about the issue that we've been debating here for the last 20 minutes...
CAMERON: Sir, would you ask them to cease that rhetoric tonight on your behalf?
PAUL: Well, it doesn't do me any good, so if they care about me, they should. But the only thing I have control over is what I believe and what I say. I can't tell them what to do. So I don't endorse what they say and I don't believe that, so, please, could I participate in the current debate rather than picking (ph) this out.
http://www.cfr.org/elections/republican-debate-transcript-myrtle-beach-s...
I'm beating a dead horse, I know. But the question posed to him in your quotation above was whether he believed the U.S. government was in some way complicit, and he said no. Same answer he gave in the exchange above. They did not ask him more broadly if it was an inside job, which was the broader, earlier question he did not answer.
We could save the further back and forth if you have a quotation in which he said that he believed the official story that it was guys with box cutters. He's given a lot of speeches. Do you have such a quotation?
If you require such a quote I invite you to seek it out. I can understand him well enough as it is.
Cameron is a piece of shit.
*cringe*
"nuance" - when excusing a career politician's words.
again, I understand the defense of the role played by these men, and the supposed limitations - but it excuses dishonesty and duplicity. of course, this is amrkn politics, so yeah. systemic, from the beginning.
I often like your arguments here, but not for this team, sorry.
I get your point and agree with you that I would prefer that RP would say what clearly he believes. I would ask him if I could. Perhaps he believes it was not an inside job period, and the "if they mean by" language was meaningless. Only he knows.
he's a career politician. as is his son.
there's no truth, plenty of party "beliefs" though, inherent in the job description.
I don't vote for these obvious reasons, it's all a lie/sham. why entertain it?
my only point is to continually MOCK the faux-libertarians here, myopic and still clinging to their heroes, irrespective of what those heroes actually do/say.
voters. *eye roll*
You'll catch more flies with honey than you will with vinegar. Now, what you'd want with a bunch of flies, I don't know. But as an anarchist atheist I've discovered that I can often find useful allies amongst libertarians and Christians. I don't require my fellow travelers to resemble me in all aspects, some shared values here and there can smooth over a world of differences.
sorry dude, I'm not fly-bait, and I'm not looking for any flies in my life.
your fad label du jour - anarchist atheist - makes me smile, lots of folks here try that cloak on occasionally.
if it helps you get the vote out, well, I guess it works for you!
What vote is that and why would it work for me?
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/08/31/ron-paul-dons-9-11-trut...
“I believe if we ever get the full truth, we will find out that over government had it in the records exactly what the plan were, or at least close to it,” Ron Paul said.
http://rehmat1.com/2014/09/04/ron-paul-911-was-an-inside-job/
Rand made his pilgramage to the Wailing Wall, yamulke, nodding head, and all. He's kosher enough for the Oval Office.
Rand is not his father. And Cruz is married to an exec at Goldman Sachs. These are the supposed "rebels" in the Red Team.
She is a CFR member as well. Cruz, the non-Hispanic Hispanic, is simply a judas goat. He has the same credentials as Obamao, half American White, half non-American, in Cruz case European Cuban, Obamao African. Neither is from the community that they are portrayed as being a member of. Cruz went to the Elite's Ivy League schools, is a lawyer, and is an Israel firster. His deception is claiming to be a grass roots Tea Party champion, when he he would throw any of us under the bus before cutting a dime to Israel.
I also want to remind everyone that Cruz was born in Canada of a American and a Cuban Citizen, holds Canadian citizenship, and is no more eligible for the office of President or Vice President than Obamao is.
Rand Paul has no connection to the CFR, was born in the United States to two American Citizens, did not attend Elite Ivy League schools, is not a lawyer. He is eligible for the office of Vice President or President.
Rand Paul is doing what he has to do in order to not be eliminated by TPTB. They still don't trust him, hence the pressure on him to join the CFR, kiss the wall etc.
If Rand Paul showed his true colors I am afraid a nail gun or a hot tub or small airplane issue would arise quite quickly.
+1 Moe Howard on bringing up Cruz
I find it funny that most Americans and most Mexicans and other Latin Americans have no idea in the world where the Spanish language even came from.
You tell them it came from white Europeans in Spain and they just cannot believe it. They think Spanish came from Mesoamerica or something. To see a white man with a Spanish last name is beyond confusing to them, and I don't know why unless one is a totally ignorant of basic history. Most of the average joes and juans in the New World has no idea of the Spanish conquests and the Jesuit takeover, so they rely on race and skin tones to push various agendas.
As for the Tea Party, its roots were 9/11 truth and Ron Paul. Nowadays its fighting crusades against boogeyman ISIS, Israel-firsters and opposition to gay marriage while conveniently remaining silent on the "sin" of divorce and re-marriage. What a useless platform, and they wonder why they have no freedom.
My apathy gets worse by the year because I am still stuck in the second O (Orient) stage of the OODA loop that TPTB have got we the masses caught in. Most of the masses haven't even got to the first O (observe) yet, mind you. The only thing they observe is sports scores on their cell phones.
yeah, it wouldn't "do" for a politician to actually tell truths - easier to point at the Fed and call for its "end" - so radical.
it's all connected, and anyone who makes a career out of working the gov't. tit is either unbearably stupid, or unbelievably venal.
sorry, but can't have it both ways. career politicians dance the hokey-pokey.
And your solution is????
To tear down anyone who is to the right of Hitlary & Warren.
you'll not understand what I'm about to type - none of the compromising, excusing, go-along-to-get-along voters here will either,
but my point - all along, ever since I've been poking holes in your collective illusions agreed to - is to offer an alternative way of seeing the world, which has NEVER been uniform, and ALWAYS has deeper truths than most want to admit.
that you and many of the rest of the followers here CHOOSE to not peer into the darker spaces, and try to cling to the last spots allowed you as amrka dives into a more obvious police state - that you can only allow yourselves to point at me and whine "progressive, Hillary, Sandra Fluke, democrat, feminist, lezbo" WHATEVER the label you currently believe you live "opposite" to - is your problem, not mine.
I can answer your questions but you are obviously un-able to understand my words, whether willful or not.
it's all entertainment tho' - I pop in here for a spell every so often, and occasionally find some old posters I respect and enjoy an exchange with - but for the most part, this space is like concrete boots on the mind - heavy, slow, a needless drag.
but it serves its purpose. claim it and cling to it, it's your sinking ship. . .
Niether can stray into that mine field becuase it has been so ingrained upon the U.S. populace that it was "terrorists" and could not possibly have been allowed by the .gov apparatchiks or perpetrated by the Saudi's to bolster the M.I.C. and 20 more years of war.
If they even talked about it they would be ostracized as tin-foil hat loonies and ejected from the sphere of infuence of the sheeple that bleat-bleat to the mall and tune in to the Nightly News and sleep in the somnolent dream that it is U.S.A. 1956 and Dwight D. Eisenhower is President and all is well.
Their heads would explode and "Paul" would be expunged from every mind in a tidal wave of cognitive dissonance.
Quit making excuses. I like many of your posts and often up vote you. But this is BS. Demand honesty from our so-called leaders. Period.
Number three
You have the right to free
Speech as long as you're not
Dumb enough to actually try it.
What happened in that debate was the MSM marginalizing him by trying to associate him with 9/11 non-official consispiracy theory believers (which is anybody with a shred of intelligence and analytical ability -- who has nothing to lose (hello Karl Denninger) by admitting the truth.
Anybody with a public persona CANNOT acknowlege the lies and evident coverup == Pentalawn, Shanksville, WTC7 et al.
And it worked. I talked to many R's back then. Most of them said "I like Ron Paul's domestic policy but his foreign policy...". "He's a kook", "He's a racist", "he's a moonbat:, "he thinks 9/11 was caused by American actions in the middle east --crazy".
So they voted for McInsane and Romney instead.
I believe that any candidate who would seriously attempt to waiver from the status quo will be attacked or ignored by the MSM and the braindead sheople will nod in agreement, fail the voting IQ test, and continue to endorse their own enslavement, and even feel good about it, as evidenced by the joy I saw in many R's last Wednesday.
TY for asking, Cathartes. One of the rare times I'll downvote LTER. And I wish I had more up arrows to give you for applying this all too important test. The one reason I wouldn't have gotten off the couch for RP's posing. TY. Keep it real, for all our sakes.
hey there Clashfan - I re-posted those links you were trying to access from the other night, just in case you're interested.
and thanks for your acknowledgement - know this - if we truly seek the truth, and don't try to argue it away when it makes itself known, then questions continue to arise, because it's a multi-layered illusion.
it can be hard going at times, because some of our "reality" is so entangled with things we "love" and don't want to "see through" - but that's not how "waking up" works. . .
when you truly get your eyes and mind opened, ALL of it is seen as the illusion it is. but then you're free.
meantime, act as if.
be well, keep asking questions, don't settle.
Just like you Clashfan, Ron Paul's "posing" got me interested in these topics too.
I've been into the conspiracy world since the early 90s, but didn't start taking it seriously until Ron Paul's primary campaign in 2006 or 2007.
But identifying the origins of Mises and the Rockefellers and these various orgs are all just part of the journey.
Even Michael Moore of all people got me interested in these topics, although now I'm about 90 degrees away from his leanings. Even though I disagreed with Bowling for Columbine, I did like his documentary format, and at least it got me more interested in other topics besides ballgames, game shows, and daytime talk shows.
Bill Maher was another one I liked during the Bush years, but now with 0 in office, Maher is now just a cheerleader for him, and his show is just a shadow of what it once was.
Alex Jones was another show I liked but his fearmongering gets really old. The threat of imminent WWIII with Russia over the Ukraine takes a backseat to Ebola that got 5 people sick as the news cycle changes. His show has gotten way too mainstream to the point its now tired tabloid headline click bait junk. He's a shadow of what he once was.
Rense, all he talks about is Fukushima, Jews and UFOs. That gets so old.
I take what I like and move on. As I learn more and about different things I gravitate towards different "teachers".
Lately I've been into Michael Tsarion's work.
I think a true democracy is scary in one respect. I know women who voted for Obama because they thought he was 'cute'.
For every person who votes for an individual who he or she thinks will provide the best representation on issues, there are many more who vote blindly based on party, what they will get ie: free phone and so on.
The only time any government feels accountable to the people they work for is when the people finally get fed up in huge enough numbers to push back like in the Ukraine, and that isn't any fun either. Are or will the Ukrainians be better off since the government was thrown out?
"I know women who voted for Obama because they thought he was 'cute'."
And I voted for Nixon 'cause he respected his mother. Strange world.
and I havent voted in all of my years on this planet.
i'll be saying "fuck the system" on my deathbed.
Rebel for life.
Lots of people voted for Reagan because they thought he looked Presidential.
That wasn't hard. They could have offered up the chimp from his old movie as a candidate against Jimmy Carter and he would have looked presidential too
I don't disagree with your fears about democracy, but it still isn't proportional representation or even mob rule. It is merely a process of selecting decision makers to make your decisions for you. A very disatisfactory way to empower individuals imo.
When I was a kid, I used to advocate testing for the electorate because I didn't think the simple virtue of having a pulse was enough. I think in my heart I still do, but of course that testing (IQ, diplomas, literacy/numeracy, whatever) criteria can easily be usurped by corrupt officials so we'll still have the same problems.
I think technology will one day enable every stakeholder in a free country to make legislative decisions directly and politicians will become obsolete. Fewer legislations as a result, fewer intrusive laws and a lot more stability. What the hell. I can dream, can't I? :)
It breaks my heart every time I see a Ron Paul article. The disgusting treatment he suffered as a presidential candidate in the hands of the msm and his own party still grips me.
You said it YHC-FTSE
Samsara. Good to see you in the threads again mate!
Oddly, I know a lot of people with advanced degrees that do not have a clue about anything outside of that degree field. I also know quite a few high IQ people that are actually stupid when it comes to human nature, real history, swallow lies whole that are fed to them etc.
On the other hand, I know plenty of "regular folks" that understand real history, read books, don't have advanced degrees, but do champion actual liberty as we once had in this country, back over a hundred years ago.
At this point in time, I have actually witnessed mentally retarded people voting, with an assit of course from the "caregiver" who accompines them into the polling booth. Anybody think that is a good idea?
voting for someone because "they're cute" is an obnoxious thought, but majority voters have little notion of the actual system(s) they live under - is it any different to vote by "race" or "face", gender or religious beliefs, etc.? because this is amrka, and folks vote with their ubiquitous cell phones while watching equally ubiquitous TV shows, or vote as a group advised by their "pastor" etc.
"voting" has been intentionally cheapened even as minds intentionally shrivel.
Voting was cheapened by the 17th amendment.
IMO Nobody who gets money in any form from the government should be allowed to vote as long as they're receiving money.
That concept is ludicrous. It's like letting your kids vote on whether they should get new iPhones and Prius's or not, regardless of Mom and Dad's abilty to fund the purchase.
Hell they'll always vote for MOAR because they dont' fucking pay for it.
In this house, with regard to financial matters, my kids don't get a vote because they don't contribute.
Why anybody thinks that letting people who don't fund government choose their government is a good idea is a fucking idiot.
We are nation controlled by psychopaths and populated by large numbers of ingorant people who still believe their TVs and the lying psychopaths.
This is why we are fucked.
.
'money in any form" - would that include wages for being employed by the government? including volunteer military working for the corporate government resource grabs globally? and those who fulfill the contracts on behalf of the government - nation destructing/rebuilding?
would that include all "health care" employees working on behalf of the government? in pharma, insurance, etc.? would it include anyone employed by corporations that receive government subsidy? would it include anyone who uses cheap oil derivatives, "subsidised" by military resource grabs globally?
in amrka, where do you draw the line of who benefits from the pyramid scheme?
It takes balls for America to hold up Washington DC and the congress as examples of democracy. With a 12% approval rating, that means 88% do not approve! Now, how do they have that low a rating, but always win election, and re-election? Ever consider that? How does a political system with democracy and elections return a congress with 12% approval. That means the 88% are UNABLE to effect change! Why is that? Look at things like. Corporate Media, Open bribery of Politicians, vote counting machines etc.
At the president's level. We get a choice of two candidates, both of which are picked by parties who are owned by the same corporations and government employees. They hand pick the candidates. Thus we have had. These very different choices over the decades. Bush I , Clinton, Bush II, Obama. And perhaps a choice between Bush III and Clinto II is the next elections.
A choice of two hand selected neoliberal, noecon, Israelis. That is what we get. No man can even come under consideration as a candidate until they have been to Israel and approved, and then to New York City to be approved by AIPAC, then on to the CIA and NSA to swear alliegance to them, then to the Petagon to promise to slavishly follow Pentagon plans. Once they clear all that, then the Bankers and Wall-Street Firms must approve them. ONLY THEN, does a party pick a candidate to run for office.
This is American democracy. Enjoy the future Presient Clinton!
or President Jeb BushII. What Ron Paul says is true. THERE is ONE PARTY, and that is it!
You're using old math...
With new mainstream media math, 12% means a majority approve...
Why isn't anyone in America heading up the abolition of Congress?
They serve no practical purpose any more except to serve the rich and steal from the poor. Oh, and rubber stamp tyranny for the globalists. Everyone has access to vote instantly and none of the morons in Congress write their own bills. Even the poorest of the poor can get an Obama phone. And there are plenty of activist groups and rights groups that would write up bills to counter the lobbyist submissions.
JB, The old ghosties from the Patriot
and the Native
grounds
asked me to say hello.
I would guess that you are having a streak of good fortune.
Thanks for stickin' with us here.
Hey, Jack, (great post btw), Try reading a couple of these. Print one off and read it over coffee or scotch/beer... Great Writer. He has had a great series on collapse's progression(among other things). Really sharp guy. Well read and researched.
Listen to his perspective on just how, the situation you described, is undermined and over thrown/turned...
In order (every Thursday) ...
John Micheal Greer
Dark Age America: The Collapse of Political Complexity<snip>
The senility that afflicts ruling elites in their last years, the theme of the previous post in this sequence, is far from the only factor leading the rich and influential members of a failing civilization to their eventual destiny as lamppost decorations or come close equivalent. Another factor, at least as important, is a lethal mismatch between the realities of power in an age of decline and the institutional frameworks inherited from a previous age of ascent.
</snip>
Dark Age America: The Hour of the Knife
Dark Age America: Involuntary Simplicity
And this week's
Dark Age America: The End of the Market EconomWhen Jello Biafra is on the ticket I'll shave my balls and vistit the booth.
I might be in there pulling the meat lever; but, I'll be there...
upvote for the amrkn version of Monster Raving Loony Party candidate!
because it hurts the mind to take voting seriously. . .
DEBT SERFS PARTY 2016
"they call it two parties, but it’s really one philosophy.”
Kind of like how 2 towers fell and 1 tower replaced it
“fight to get rid of the monopoly of Republicans and Democrats”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6_mkbwZZGE
That may be the most vague and generalized solution I've ever heard from America's representative of the center pillar of equilibrium
Has Ron Paul ever offered an actual solution to anything?
Yeah, as long as he stays out of my uterus, Ron Paul is an okay guy, I'd planned to vote for him last time; but that son of his...
Getting into uteri is Ron's real job.
therefore, he mixes personal "job" with paid public representative?
thought so.
You think?
yes, sadly, I do.
luckily I don't believe in any of this nonsense, I just like to point at it, for the sake of argument.
too bad Fight Club packed up and moved on.
Have you had your weekly abortion yet?
One issue. Defines everything for you? Deep thinking.
lol, great reply.
"weekly abortion" - I take it you don't have any females in your life, to know how these things work. . .
that "one issue" is enough for many to see through the fakery. most of those would be female, and that "one issue" would involve surrendering control of their body to the state, should the Paul's and their Party get their desires. funda-mentalism, it's all the rage these days, history cycles back to this often.
imagine the uprising if the holy folks decided semen was responsible for makin' babies, and devised a chip implant to monitor where the precious fluids were being spent, maybe even a kind of lock-box for those who were spreading things a bit too thin? I know, hilarious, unimaginable!
keep voting, it's a great way to spin out your time. . .
Ron, If you would just say,..."Alright Pilgrim....Just accept it.....It's a ByGod Republic of Wimps.
Just sit on Dear, Deer, George Washington's front porch.
Try not to drink ALL of the mighty Port that my ancestor brought to the Master of Whiskey and ALL other secondary things.
The Southern Rivers Flow Brightly Tonite.
The FRIGGIN bugs are gone now.
Just the sound of the Night Mammals.
All Original Americans.
And They All Love me.
Owwwwwwllllllllllllllll!
LTER is right.
CAPTCHA bitchezz for YELP "roomate" (sic) pimps
What is he talking about? You have two choices. The new class progressive or the new class progressive.
Paul has a long wait if he is expecting true democracy to show up anytime soon. Mankind is programed instinctivly to serve a master. There has never been a serious effort to rein in government. Usiing government to get something for noting or reap where one doesn't sow is as easy as taking candy from a baby. Neither will the public find a master who will not exploit them.
Common Sense Economics http://quillian.net/blog/
" Mankind is programed instinctivly to serve a master."
Individuals have evolved to cooperate with family and friends as that strategy provides economic and emotional benefits. Government usurps the role of family and operates as a dysfunctional proxy for it devoid of love and caring.
You are confused, when has Paul every promoted "true democracy"?
He wants the government to follow the Constitution which is the current law of the land. This Constitution was not set up as and is not a democracy. It is a Republic. If you can't even understand that, why are you even commenting? Crack open a book and learn something.
The only hope for a solution is taking control at the local level and building up from there.
One can and should only take control of oneself and one's own business.
Will never work as those in control own the 'message'. They own the mass media which is use to conditon people's thinking. That is why you get people that obviously vote against their own best interests.
how to prove :when two parties D and R are the same..Crist and Arlen Spector come to mind both switched parties like changing underwear..after years of denouncing the D party both became D's..but then perhaps they just converted to D because of ideals, you be the judge. to run a super power continuity of leadership policy means both D and R must follow the policy of the country, now who really sets that policy can be argued, reptiles long in .gov and .01 elite come to mind.
Carroll Quiqley on the Two Party System
"The argument that the two parties should represent opposed ideals and policies, one perhaps of the Right, and the other of the Left, is a foolish idea acceptable only to doctrinaire and academic thinkers. Instead, the two parties should be almost identical, so that the American people can 'throw the rascals out' at any election without leading to any profound or extensive shifts in policy... But either party in office becomes in time corrupt, tired, unenterprising, and vigorless. Then it should be possible to replace it, every four years if necessary, by the other party, which will be none of these things but will still pursue, with new vigor, approximately the same policies".
-- Carroll Quigley, "Tragedy and Hope", 1966, p. 1247-48
There is no political plurality in the US. Just grim and very expensive political theatre that presents an illusion of choice. A good overview of how the US 'elites' work is C.W.Mills - The Power elite. Written in the early 50's and still relevant.
The large number of government programs that have failed to carry out their duties and the dim view many Americans have towards Washington may be starting to take its toll on those who think big government is the answer. The Democratic Party has long been thought of as the party of "big government" filled with believers that government can solve and is the answer to curing many of our woes.
Sadly cost and reality are quickly beginning to show the flaws in this theory, government is far better at providing access of citizens and good at passing popular laws, but the private sector tends to be more efficient and better at controlling costs. More on the flaw in the concept of big government in the article below.
http://brucewilds.blogspot.com/2013/11/flaws-in-big-government-concept.h...
True, but the Republicans are certainly not the party of small government. Don't forget they had complete control not so long ago and did nothing but increase the size of government. They are famous for making Democrat big programs "work more efficiently" - thereby ensuring this corrupt system continues on down the road, delaying the inevitable.
This is the fact that is so frustrating.
Its a monopoly with a terrorist population. Your holiness.
"The lone wolf" hypothesis. "One angry dude" (or dudette) does mean your covered under the American Patriot Act.
I mean seriously...one analyst at the NSA? Bwhahahahaha. Its so absurd the fact that no one says anything against this patent falsehood...that one person can in any way shape or form represent a threat against anything...least of all the State says everything I need to know all about "the path to all power is paved with Full Retard."
Tyranny is government without consent of the governed. The governed can't consent if the truth is kept from us. George Carlin told the truth. This is the brave New World. Huxley's, HG Wells' and Brunner's.
They are vulnerable. A lone wolf doesn't have to strike in their center. One creative person can peel back the illusion in any number of passive ways that they can't prevent or anticipate.
They keep the babble going on the idiot box to keep the sheep harmonized. When something major breaks out its just background noise. State schools and Al Gore demonstrate the primary methods of indoctrination. Pre-rational children are conditioned to be State cogs, obedient adult sheep, just like church. If their parents weren't State cogs their parents were taken away, or drafted and burned, framed and incarcerated or just run off. The church and family compete with State power so they are destroyed or infiltrated, leaving only the State planners. Bush or Clinton? Chex or Wheaties? CNN or FOX? No need to wonder why, the scammers told you why. The scientific method is a fine weapon against the State. Which is why they control the purse strings and keep that gate.
WOW! I love Ron Paul, but for an ex-congress-person to call a spade-a-spade is awesome.
His son won't ever be 1/2 the man Ron Paul is.
No entity shall control over 10,000,000. Peace on earth and angels sing glory to the newborn king.
Ron Paul
Best President America Never Had
Title is total bullshit. "We don't have a democracy..."
We never have. At one time, we actually had a democratic republic. The "democracy" meme is typical of the progressives (AKA socialists). The trouble with a true democracy is that you make anything into a law as long as you have a majority rule.
Suppose a bunch of people get together and want to pass a law to kill Tyler or Francis or whomever? In a democracy, they can do it as long as they have a mojority vote.
In a democratic republic, you can't do that. Big difference.
True democracy; France
Democratic republic; US shortly after 1776
To be totally correct here, the US was founded as a representative Republic. "Democracy" never entered into the equation precisely because "Democracy" in it's basest form is nothing but mob rule.
Yes, sir. The motto of France is not "Liberty, Equality, and Fraternity", but "Liberty, eGality, and Fraternity", a huge difference. WIth Egality, everyone is equal, but it's radical equality imposed by an autocratic gov't.
Equality is an individual right, but eqailty is based upon collective rights, and thus is anathema to the American Revolution.
That's rich, coming from a Russian propaganda outlet. How's your multi-polar democracy doing over there?
Better than your combination of Kelptocracy, Plutocracy, Kakistocracy...
Kakistocracy, I give you. But Putin's net worth dwarfs anything those Clinton paupers have. And Russian government is run for the little people. Yeah right. At least we had a Ron Paul, and his son has not yet been corrupted.
Maybe Corptocracy and Mediocracy or potentially Mobocracy if everything starts to break down. The institutions of the US and its politicians are all owned by the 'elites'. The State has been hijacked to serve and benefit the elites in terms of the tax regime, market distorting subsidies to businesses, defence pork barrelling, etc.
All societies favour the elites - no different here in Australia. We have elected a dimwit as Prime Minister.
You got that right NEXUS, we are just as f***ed as the yanks.
Yeah, but FFS Ron, you were in congress for 24 years+, and btw took money too, and if the monopoly is so absolute then how the fuck did you get elected and maintain your position for so long? And now your son, Rand, and some other guys like Ted Cruz are in the senate and the old fucks like McCain are going to be dying off. Change takes time. A shift has begun. Paul Rand was Tea Party, but now McConnell says he supports him for prezzy. That's not a small thing.
What the democrats did after 2000 was have communist wing of the party purge all the moderates -- there are few, if any, left -- and then they took power from within. A so-called 'moderate dem', Joe Lieberman, was kicked to the curb right after being their VP Presidential candidate with Gore in 2000. He had to run as an independent in the general election because the dems told him to fuck off and die and picked a 3rd generation JPM sliver-spoon marxist over incumbant Joe to support in the primaries. Evan Bayh decided to just retire and go away.
Somebody show me a perfect angelic candidate, anywhere in the world, and I'll vote for them.
>then how the fuck did you get elected and maintain your position for so long?
Because you can afford to hire someone to fill out the paperwork for you...
http://www.fec.gov/ans/answers_candidate.shtml
Your toolkit...
http://www.fec.gov/info/toolkit.shtml#candidate
Have fun... Only because I thought about doing this, but I hate paperwork.
Joe Liberman was for one issue, he could have given a flying fuck about anything else. Israel first. Everything else was red meat to stay in power. You have odd heroes.
80% of the Democratic party is comprised of the same venal careerist scumbags as 100% of the Republican party. They are servants of the bankster fueled corporate oligarchy, and have no interest in serving the public interest.
Christian financial advisor
http://www.christianfinancialadvisor.ca/
Christian financial advisors
Leave it to RT and Ron Paul to tell the truth; it will never see the light of day on the MSM propaganda train.
I voted for Ron, didnt think he could change the system
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but 4 years of real world vision from a leader in the office of President like him would change America for the better
There is no such thing as a Christian financial advisor.
"No one can serve two masters.
He will either hate the one and love the other,
Or hold to the one and despise the other:
You cannot serve God and mammon."
Yeshuah, Sermon on the Mount, Matthew 6:24
Or, more modernly,
"It is a well known fact that those people who must want to rule people are, ipso facto, the least suited to do it... Anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do it."
Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
Ah, yes, Russia Today (RT)...despite some of the messages its guests may have, fair and balanced it is NOT.
I did not know Ron Pauls opinions were Russian?
Duplicate post, sorry, must have clicked twice.
Overall RT seems to be as least as balanced as CBS, ABC, NBC, BBC, CNN, CNBC, and Fox.
All of them protect their respective governments with grade school propaganda, and each hurls dirt at the alleged international "enemies" of their respective governments.
One thing for RT is that they seem to document their sources a bit better than the rest and usually do not report bullshit. The Cartoon News Network and Certified Nutjobs Broadcasting Crap are #1 in the bullshit department IMHO.
For yet another perspective consider: http://www.wsws.org
After reading and/or viewing three or four versions of the same "news", the propaganda, agenda and spin become crystal clear.
Another great source (paid subscription) is http://www.trendsresearch.com - worth every penny.
If a Democracy loses one component it ceases to function as a Democracy anymore.
Opposition
The US lost the concept of opposition because all parties became the same, same old policies, representing the elites because they now own the system moves you to a single point of governance that will never be democratic.
I find it farcical that the USA, UK, etc. extoll the benefits of democracy around the world.
What they actually mean is open your governments to us so we may infiltrate and purchase those government and if you are not selling out we may use warfare against you.
I like this guy, but no matter what or who gets in, NOBODY is fixing an 18 trillion dollar debt. If they started now agressivley paying off that debt, I would put money on the sun imploding first before that debt got to zero. I have no fucking clue how anyone in their right mind risks any of their money in that money printing system.
If you knew someone with a gambling problem that's mortgaged their house to the max, and maxed their credit cards out to do it, are you going to lend them money? Or start gambling at the same rate this guy does? Obviously for most American sheeple the answer is yes.
Exactly right. I didn't hear a whole lot of hope in what he said. He discusses what should be, not what will be. Truth telling can be painful to the ears, and often is not what we want to hear. Returning to the Constitution would be a start, but it would be so painful for those who are living at the bird feeder that it will not happen. Until the bird feeder can no longer be filled, the can will continue to be kicked down the road.
There is no difference between the US and Ukraine. Both are nations ran by criminal oligarchs wirh delusions of Rome.
I just received Atkinson's book this week. The depth of depravity and corruption of our govcorpmedia that she captures and presents is astounding. There is no longer a functioning constitutional government in the U.S.
Endeavor to persevere..... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsL6mKxtOlQ
Direct Democracy is the only pure democracy. Everything else is shit.
It's a billionaires game and you don't get anywhere without their money. Once you take their money you have their opinions and all that goes with it. This is the true evil of the Fed printing money. Four trillion dollars later this corrupt system is now locked in place by a wealth divide that hasn't existed before. No way they're going to give up control.
USA is not a democracy but a dollarcracy (demos cratos=the people rule; in fact the dollar rules). USA at present is a monetary imperialist who is losing the battle.
As for 9/11 that was an outside job with crucial inside help.
Thats my opinion at present which is subject to change as more facts emerge.
ussa pol system = prostitution.......
pols suk ya dik for a dolla
Come on Dr. Paul, who the hell wants a real democracy? We were never intended to be one. I agree both parties SUCK, but democracy won't change that.
We need to go back the other direction, quite frankly, and get rid of the 17th amendment .... the 16th amendment and the Federal Reserve Act as a bonus.
It's a republic not a Democracy. Democracy is mob rule.
I thought it was a Republic
According to H.C. Wainwright & Co.:
http://online.barrons.com/articles/picks-in-precious-metals-that-will-fo...
Thus far in 2014, the prices of gold, silver and platinum have disappointed. We note that a number of forward looking mining companies have been able to successfully raise capital, mainly during the summer, while continuing to execute on their individual and fundamental business plans. We do believe the recent selloff in the precious metals space is overdone and note that any potential recovery in metals prices could present opportunity. Further, given these past raises, there should not be any further dilution, in the near term, for companies positioned to expand their resource portfolios, which they can use to increase future mine plans and strengthen their respective balance sheets.
While the overall momentum for precious metals this year so far has been negative, we do not believe that this trend or disfavor is sustainable over the longer term. A key data point to consider is the size of the Federal Open Market Committee’s (FOMC) own balance sheet which currently stands at over $4.3 trillion. History of finance has no exact precedent on how a central bank would unwind an asset portfolio of this magnitude without encountering a devaluation of the underlying currency. We also note the size of the U.S. federal government’s debt, which currently stands at approximately $17.8 trillion.
It is our belief that the FOMC will not be in a position to raise interest rates to historic norms of 4.0%-5.0% for many years, because doing so would stifle the government’s ability to refinance short-term maturing debt and also meet existing interest payments on the national debt. The only longer-term path out of this quagmire of debt is to systematically devalue the U.S. dollar, which plays into the hands of gold and all precious metals.