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America Will Soon Have More Waiters And Bartenders Than Manufacturing Workers
While the headline jobs print was a modest kneejerk disappointment at least until it is appropriately spun in some sort of "goldilocks" frame, where the October jobs report was a true disappointment, was in the report of average hourly earnings: rising at just 0.1% for the month and 2.0% Y/Y, it missed expectations across both metrics. As a reminder, even Janet Yellen has observed that with the unemployment rate ridiculously low and thus meaningless to shape policy, the key thing the Fed head is watching is any changes in wages to determine where benign wage inflation is headed. Well, as the chart below shows, it is headed exactly nowhere, because 6 years after the recovery, wages simply refuse to rise.
And while there are many reason to explain this phenomenon, most of which have been covered here in the past, here is the easiest explanation of why wages have, and will continue to disappoint to the downside. From the report:
- Food services and drinking places added 42,000 jobs in October, compared with an average gain of 26,000 jobs per month over the prior 12 months.
- Employment in professional and business services continued to trend up over the month (+37,000). Over the prior 12 months, job gains averaged 56,000 per month. In October, employment continued to trend up in temporary help services (+15,000).
In brief: well-paying jobs lower, low-paying jobs much higher.
And to visualize it: in October the US economy added the most waiters and bartenders in over a year. In fact at 42K, one in every five jobs "created" in the US economy went to a bartender, or a waiter.
Finally, putting it all in perspective, here is the total number of waters and bartenders Vs. manufacturing workers in the US since 1990. The red (bad) line has almost caught up with the blue (good) one. So much for Obama's manufacturing renaissance promise as manufacturing workers have barely recouped any of the losses since the Great Depression started in 2008, while America has never had more waters and bartenders.
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Make mine a double.
More part time, lower wage jobs.. What kind of recovery is this?
Job Situation: http://www.dailyjobcuts.com
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The winning kind!!!
I'm buying!
It's Friday and noon time somewhere!
Grab a brew. Don't cost nuthin'.
it's pay day and I'll be stackin' some sweet, shiny, silvery phyzz ;-)
bitchez...
Get your own drink......I just hit 29.5 hours.
Bar was full last night as the Browns spanked Cincy and took the division lead. Miracles for a 40 year Cleveland Fan !
Gold Bitches.....I pick up pennies
Oxford University economic study released stating automation will eliminate 75 MILLION+ JOBS in U.S. by 2035, bitchez .
http://www.leaderpost.com/technology/future+without+work/10357216/story....
A future without work?
Machines may soon take over half of today's jobs
"Tinkerine Studios' loft-like space in central Vancouver seems innocent enough.
Part hip startup, part modern hobby shop, its minimal work stations and fresh white walls contrast with the candy-coloured plastic trinkets lining the shelves, each one produced by Tinkerine's marquee product: a line of 3D printers.
For those who haven't seen the process in action, 3D printing can be a hard concept to grasp. Taking a virtual design and making it physical at the touch of a button still seems like something out of science fiction. Up close and personal, however, it's much less mysterious. In fact, it's kind of cute.
Each sleek little machine hums a wheezy little tune as it sucks bright plastic filament off a spool, heats it up and pumps it through a nozzle - sort of like a hot-glue gun - adding layer upon layer until - voila - you have a thing! An iPhone case, a vase, a scale model of the Eiffel Tower: these are just some of the items they can produce.
"At the end of the day, we're really here to make a product or tool that allows anybody to do anything they want with it," says Eugene Suyu, Tinkerine's 25-year-old founder. "The sky's really the limit for the end user."
Right now, that's mostly design geeks and small businesses looking for a means to produce cheap and easy prototypes, but Suyu has his sights set on a much larger market.
"These units will eventually trickle into homes," he says.
He's probably right. Like the Internet in its early days, 3D printing seems niche and esoteric now, but the technology seems destined for ubiquity just as soon as the kinks get worked out and we all learn how to use it.
When that happens, a lot of people are going to be out of a job.
***Add that to steady advancements in computing technology that put nearly half of today's jobs at risk for automation, according to a recent Oxford University study, and you have a massive societal shift on your hands.***"
PLEASE DO NOT WORRY.
"Finally, putting it all in perspective, here is the total number of waters and bartenders Vs. manufacturing workers in the US since 1990. The red (bad) line has almost caught up with the blue (good) one."
What a a joke. Graph the number of 'government' workers vs manufacturing workers if you want to see where we're really at. The number of 'takers' exceeded the number of 'producers' in most states over 10 years ago. 'Government' is the largest employer in most former 'manufacturing' states.
Why not? After all, it's been ten or 15 years now since the number of government employees exceeded manufacturing employees (true - look it up, if you want).
Nothing bad has come of that, now, has it?
"Nothing bad has come of that, now, has it?"
Aside from a $17 trillion national debt, $600B to 1trillion budget deficit, and a generation of EBT addicts, it's all good.
How can all these people afford to go out to eat so much?
Easy. EBT cash cards.
someone's gotta pour my drinks when i'm too drunk to do it myself.
"bartender, you've earned your $15 an hour tonight. here's a $5 tip, that should cover your rent on that 1 bedroom in the ghetto."
That's the key. Bar tenders are actually manufacturing workers. They assemble finished drinks.
Obamanomics, who needs to build shit when you can hire people to serve fried chicken all day!
You want to supersize that?
Returning to very basic needs in this down turn. Need food and escape from the reality.
What's this "reality" thing you mention??
Oh wait.. Is it that nasty shit when I'm sober??
Reality is merely one's most plausible belief system.
Kegerator (or as I call it, "beer fountain"), FTW!
And I'm a drunk... NOT an alcoholic..
Alcoholics go to meetings...
Meetings are for pussies.
Reality is for people who can't handle drugs or alcohol.
The escape lasts as long as the glass is full.
THe BLS number has become a useless metric. How can you add 2.8 million jobs in a year(unadjusted) and see no drop in welfare recipients at all?
I'll believe the number where people are receiving checks from the government over surveys any day.
If the working age population increased 2.8M (not unlikely) then the number on the dole would not change.
I find it really funny that simple math is downvoted.
math is anti-semetic
and i guess nobody retired on the other end
Frankly I'm surprised that there still are more manufacturing workers than waiters/bartenders. Didn't the BLS try to re-classify burger flipping as manufacturing a few years ago?
the "creation" of jobs over the last 2 years has been done by simply reallocation of worker hours. because of obamacare, companies reduce employee hours to under 30 per week. do this enough, and you need to "create a job" to cover those hours that have been taken from other employees.
Import cheap, but clever plastic crap from China and sling it on the flea market circuit.
The last show I went to was chock full of Chinese lasers, night vision and the like.
I saw an interesting scam yesterday. Apparently they're getting old mattresses, tearing off the old fabric (keeping the labels) then sewing new fabric (and the old labels) on the old frame.
Apparently it's becoming a cottage industry here in Phoenix. A local investigative reporter had a bunch of footage of Mexicans driving around picking up old mattresses from the side of the road, the dump, etc, then doing the refurbishing at a storage locker, and finally selling them as new at the park-n-swap.
All I'd need is some mattress fabric, an industrial-size sewing machine, and rent money for a storage space & a space at park-n-swap!
the selling of "used" mattresses pretending to be "new" has been going on for well over a decade - fly-by night storefronts with mattresses stacked, short lease gone after a few months. apparently "legal" - though what you're describing is more of a scam apparently.
Recycled bed bugs as well
Pretty cool idea.
Can they build mine to have a safe in it?
And the bed bugs and other parasites come free!
Yep. The bed mites will number in the millions.
The sale and consumption of Alchohol goes up in a depression....duh.
1000yrdstare has the answer.
Download the 'Moonshiners’ series from Amazon and go into business.
AS LONG AS IT PAYS 15 BUCK PER HOUR, IT DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU'RE A WAITOR OR A WEBDESIGNER!
Pleeeze!!!!
I’m a ‘Barista’ not a waiter.
And I am NOT a cook…I’m a ‘Chef!’
Don't drewl or we'll have to call for a "Floormanager" to clean it up!
Shit, you're a catch! Are you female and single? You're my ticket to the good life baby!
We'll, look on the bright side. At least you can get fucked up / lambasted knowing how manipulated the Ponzi is. That is, if you can afford to get fucked up.
Bartender is my dream job
10 more year in the "Cleaning Lettuce" department and you're up for promotion buddy!
All the way to cutting celery.
BINGO!
Goodfellas Tommy shoots spider Scene
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPE7Qr5O6Fg
My brother was way ahead of the curve on this one. Got a bartender job at the VFW about 10 years ago. All the vodka he can drink, no morning shifts, can shuffle his schedule whenever he wants time off...
ALL THE VODKA HE CAN DRINK!
Bartending is a difficult job. Gotta be smart, hardworking and personable. It's to be respected.
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"Bartender is my dream job."
Well, then take a deep breath and be prepared to hear this each and every night of your glamourous bartending career.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McMWRA4Tzw0
Bartenders usually are sexy.
The golfer got a plan!
You didn't build that drink.
Don't worry the R's will fix it, soon it will be 3 out of 5.
I thought it was the Fed's job to fix it?
Get to work Mr. Yellen!
If the entertainment and leisure sector is expanding, isnt that bullish for the economy?
YES. Because in the Upside-down State of Amnesia, doing nothing but tinkering on my iPad makes me MOAR in welfare fiat duckets!!
We got some folks drunk.
When I was in the desperate I'll take anything at all point of my unemployment last year, I couldn't get a job as a waiter because I lacked experience. One restaurant was kind enough to let me audition for a position in the kitchen with one day of unpaid work. I asked what their decision was at the end of the day and they told me to come in for the rest of the week before they made up their mind. Another had me go on 3 interviews for a busser position only to be turned down. Chipotle required 3 interviews as well.
with that scam, make sure to injur yourself while "working for free" payout can be huge
Now what you mean.
In early 90-s recession, one day I was working in the penthouse design office and the next I was as a delivery driver for legal documents, frozen human organs and VHS demo tapes in LA.
To get that position I had to lie that for the good part I was running errands for my company "while being trained".
Thanks Good it was a short endeavor, but life experience never the less.
What I fear, though, this time is different for successful rebound for many.
What? No butlers? How disappointing
Can you make a Bullshark?
Can you make a shoe stink?
You're all right kid...
I'm happy all those MBA's and JD's are finding gainful employment.
They'll eventually get over the crushing despair of their boss having an AA in womyn's studies.
"Remember, the customers want to see a big smile."
No worry, Freddie and Fannie have a fog-a-mirror mortgage loan qualification with no money down plan to boost the housing market.
fog-a-mirror mortgage
very funny
Manufacturing
Where? What?
If the SNAP card works at a bar...use it.....like Pelosi said..the poor people spend it faster....but they dont tip well...
the EBT card for "food stamps" - aka JPM's "SNAP" - can only be used for "food" - can't even buy toilet paper with it. . . course, that's what the fiat bux are for, yeh?
only the top o' the line EBT cards, used for "welfare, unemployment, etc." bennies can buy the alcohol, wings & other stuffs from the sports 'n' titty-bars.
Well, I do have to eat & drink. On a brighter note, all you millenials who voted for "Hope & Change", here is your future. Add to this career choice a Chalkycare health bill of $700 a month with a $6,000 deductible and you can permanently stay in Mom& Dad's basement. Congrats.
www.traderzoo.mobi
When Americans finally ratchet down their expectations, this will all work just fine. Goodbye wasteful 4000 sq ft McMansion, hello small in-town govt subsidized apartment. Goodbye two giant SUVs, hello Mopeds. Goodbye unused jet skis sitting on the side of the house, goodbye useless house full of toys, all paid for with plastic. This is the 'New Normal' and it ain't going away. The only jobs that will be left are service jobs and those which can't be done cheaper in Asia. The stock markets will eventually reflect this new reality. Yes, they will.
the global "leveling" of wages necessitates lowering the amrkn pay, as more workers compete for jobs. more workers = more competition for fewer jobs, less pay & benefits offered - that's "capitalism" at "work", yeah?
True.
Unless you work for the government or in healthcare. Then inflated salaries and little to no threat of layoff or outsourcing are the norm.
The rest of us struggle while the protected classes luxuriate and party down!
Winning! ( if you work in HC or .gov).
We have the smartest bartenders and waitresses a college education can buy. USA! USA! We need to relax the rub-n-tug laws in this uptight country. Think of all the new 'jobs' it would create.
was this the master plan all along anyway? ass rape middle America and laugh to the bank?
since the recovery was so awesome, let's have another one! the new and improved version... now without health insurance. work those 29 hours bitch!
Republicans are backtracking on Immigration Reform. No help there.
It's time to go to the cellar with my cup. Ain't no diseased bartenders down there.
How many Life Guards were added
How many Life Guards were added
Hey bartenders got the best benefits, food , booze , tips and hot chick's every night!
If you're at all good looking, you can get more ass than a toilet seat. So a bartender buddy of mine says. He may be lying, hard to say. Though, he's always got a looker on his arm.
bet those "lookers" wear beer goggles. . .
True. But it's like being an entertainer - you get into your late 30's and you get shown the door for the next young, vacuous dewd with cheekbones.
Take away the illegal aliens...about 11 million.....and see what wages do!!
Take away the illegal aliens...about 11 million.....and see what wages do!!
Maybe a Liberal Economist can man up and point this out ... maybe
the last number i saw was around 30 million illegals...
Odd isn't? We pay for more than 120 different languages in the California school district and wonder why our own children are stupid and drop out? WE allow foreigners to have green cards that ruin the wages for our own (chatted with an accountant from overseas here on a green card; very very hostile guy cause he knows he is being paid half of what an american would be paid. ya think he doesn't sabotage the company when he can?)
Joe Cassano is now putting the finishing touches on his new derivatives, CDOs, and other fantasy paper guaranteed to yield 10% in dividends per annum.
He is packaging tranches of manufacturing, bartending, baristo, and waitressing jobs on all 7 continents into a bond that the Jewish Mafia on Wall street is salivating to sell to their customers. These bonds will be loaded into Social security, Widows and orphans, and municipals by the trillions.
All the mutual funds have bid up opening prices 10% over par.
Joe and his confreres around the world are having hernia operations for laughing so much and loudly.
Next on his list in packaged Government jobs which will yield 20% in interest.
All of these new sceurities have been blessed and insured by the Pope, the Imam, and AIG.
Bachelors of Bartending Arts is the hot new degree. Yours for only $50,000 per year. Or $250,000 for the five year plan.
Is the government actually trying to pay its bills?
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-06-16/offshore-cash-of-2-trillion-spa...
Makes the $300 million fine on Hyundai look like chump change...
http://drivingsalesnews.com/government-fines-add-up-to-300-million-for-h...
-That's all Folks-
Why is everyone going out to eat? I want to go too.
We are coming face to face with a harsh reality. The long term implications of poor job creation are massive. We are seeing that a huge number of people have dropped out of the work force. Often these people have little in the way of savings, this means the burden of caring for them will be transferred to society. If to many people shift into this category we will slowly wear down through attrition. Finding a fair way to share and balance the work load that goes on every day is one of the most important problems facing our modern world.
Failure to discover a solution to this dilemma bodes poorly for our consumer driven economy and adds to the toxic problem of inequality. Many of the numbers and budget projections of the government have been based on far better employment numbers then we are currently facing or will be facing if this continues. The article below looks at the long-term implication of poor job creation and how it will drastically impact in a negative way both the wealth and future of America.
http://brucewilds.blogspot.com/2013/09/implications-of-poor-job-creation.html
Move in with mom and dad, it's your only hope.
MERICA!
If you have nothing to do you have time to develop your prospects. Make your own jobs. Watching TV & rating porn are not life skills.
Try getting a server position without experience. it's a no go. Fuck it!
You have to be an immigrant, silly. You're.supposed.to.just.die.already.
Lie on your resume, have a friend be your reference.
I hope the bartenders and waitresses are studying Chinese in their off hours. The direction the US is heading will lead to a great demand for Chinese speakers in the service industries. Of course, this will only be in well-to-do areas. Any non-Chinese speakers will be serving hash and beer in economically depressed areas - in rundown bars.
But you can get there in phases. First learn chinglish.
Then go for the advanced degree.
Increase in service/bar/restaurant sector hires a leading indicator in improving economy? Probably.
not : restaurants are already working on automated service employees. if you can skip the 15% gratuity how would you feel about picking up your own dinner?
For every custumor one waiter... ... I wonder what the price of a beer will be ? What a recovery.
$50, like in I, Robot.
suprise, suprise, oct., election year, more bartenders, more women, "service workers", there is a silver lining, (ha-ha), i'm betting 90% of their wages are tax-dollars.
elections are over they can go straight to part-time christmas work, same jobs, different season.
BSLS needs amnesty, what if a miracle happened, hiring did pick-up, using their stats. there would be a -% age of unemployment.
We need to factor in the statistic that most of those waiter and bartending jobs are part-time, less than 30 hours a week.
Starve The Beast! Hang Ovomit!
One more "free trade" agreement like TTIP should put the final stake in the heart of Amerika.... yet people still defend this stuff and vote for politicians who just talk about social issues as if those matter when so many are poverty stricken. I don't know of a single politician who is against these 'trade' agreements but Amerikans still can't figure out why it sucks more every single year
The phrase is "Exceptional"
It's exhaustion,Square.America's Biggest Heart Walk & Run,AIDS Walk,Komen's Race For The Cure,Facebooking the Ice Bucket Challenge,putting up hundreds of houses for Habitat,Bowling for Juvenile Diabetes,Bike Rally for Missing & Endangered Children,March For Alsheimer's.driving the kids door to door selling Pop Warner candy bars,Wiggle Waggle Walk for the Humane Society,Facebooking Medea's Rubble Bucket Challenge,Candlelight Vigil and Walk to Stop Domestic Violence-and so on.
World needs plenty of bartenders!
-Det. Sgt. Dignam
greedspam used to say that the service industry was a demand pull, people in service jobs earned wages which allowed them to purchase manufactured items (non manufacturing jobs created demand for manufactured goods) truth be known there is a lot of overcapacity in manufactured products. so you see there is a method to their boom and bust policies. what happens when the new service jobs get automated? the out of work waiters and bartenders slink back to the factories, for the renaissance in manufacturing.
NPR went bold this morning and actually dared to have someone state that, "There were jobs created, but many of them are low-wage". I almost crashed the car, I was so stunned.
I've found NPR can be a mixed bag. Sometimes they let the truth 'slip', other times they tow the Wall St. line.
But nearly all the time I can hear the contempt for having to kowtow.
I loved it yesterday or so when NPR Business Nightly news (or whatever) were talking about the most powerful people list of which Putin was #1, then Obama, then Primer of China. Yellen was somewhere on there...
Tyler Matheson then said it was too bad no women were on the list.... Had to laugh out loud...
FED withholding reported weekly confirm slight uptick from last year but flat over the past three months. All the BS about unemployment rate is a waste of time as withholding taxes affect the deficit. Its real and there is a big problem in the economy. Regardless the stock market will roar because of stock buybacks, now 60% of operating earnings used for buybacks rather than cap ex, because consumers have little money and we buy most stuff from China. Your kids and grandkids need to start early meals and cleaning up at home. That's their future.
service based economy!
The world needs ditch diggers too.
-Judge Smails
And it's WAITERS not waters. Jesus christ.
"while America has never had more waters and bartenders."
He means brands of waters. So many they now are hiring bartenders to serve them. Nobody can afford to open a new bar...
Reaganomics/ consumerism is a toxic and failed economic policy. It promotes greed, debt, and living beyond your means buying things you don't need made in China. This has been American economic policy since 1980. We are near the end of this failed experiment.
The USA used to have an import tariff to protect our manufacturing sector, but Reagan got rid of it in the 1980s and it opened up the floodgates for job outsourcing to China. Remember this next time you pass one of those giant brick factories thats empty, ruined, and graffiti-ed. People used to work there making a decent wage.
Also keep in mind before Reagan we were the world's biggest creditor nation, and after Reagan we were the biggest debtor nation!
Don't worry; all that wealth will just trickle down to the peasant class.
Now go fix me a dirty martini, extra olive.
lester
if this is reagan's fault how did Robert Triffin predict it in 1960?
Any country with the 'exorbitant privilege' would wind up where we are now.
upvoted for daring to point to long-term trends, an agenda that's had many decades planning, still unfolding before our eyes. . . well, anyone whose eyes are open, and willing to name what is seen.
Statist, socialist policies are what really started the ball rolling, Lester. See: The creation of the Fed, FDR and the Social Security ponzi, and LBJ's guns and butter policy that birthed the failed "Great Society." It was all downhill from there.
You Americans must have that much Money that you eat out and drink that much that extra Staff is needed to cover those jobs. Yet all you do is complain how bad it is. Must be all that extra Money that the Fed is handing out.
Serve the rich: the new American dream.
New classes at the local CC:
5. Dating trannsies, and who picks up the check.
Easy, the "man" picks up the check-- question is, is it the bitch or her date.
It's all fake.
If there are so many hundreds of thousands of additional waiters and bartenders according to the last several of these reports, then there must be a huge number of new bars and restaurants. I don't see it here in Massachusetts. Not at all. It's all fake.
Are peanuts and pretzels still free?
Yeah, just don't eat them. Full of urine and feces. Drunks don't wash their hands.
You don't need to be a science rocket to figure this scam the BLS pulls out of their ass everytime they put together a report. Waiters and waitresses move around frequently. The move to the new job gets added but the old is forgotton. The person that replaces the old job gets added and the old is forgotton as well. There you have it, 2 new jobs added none lost. You see in their world only jobs are added when someone moves on, they never see that person as losing a job or unemployed.
people forget how important the restaurant business was during the depression. people lost their homes they had to go somewhere to eat. the famous crime thriller Mildred Pierce is actually a novel about a woman who starts a chain of restaurants during the depression, is very successful, then loses it all, after her daughter seduces her husband, a worthless rich playboy, living off old money which is running out, he marries Mildred. the two of them refer to Mildreds business as the Pie Wagon, and she goes broke trying to keep them happy while they berate her efforts. most of the novel is about her working her way to the top, in a tough business at that time. now you just buy a franchise and count the receipts, (and if they come up short you drop in some money made off drug sales which needs to be laundered). a lot of microbreweries and restaurants are fronts, since there is no direct cost analysis in that business, just ratios, the business was always open to kickback schemes and such.
there's much truth to this,
and plenty of "drug sale" monies funding these fronts, with "employees" also trading in said "illegal" stuffs - it's getting pretty seedy out there, just like the last "big depression" stories.
great mention of Mildred Pierce - here's a trailer for the Joan Crawford movie. gotta love the Hollywood spin, shaping cultural roles and minds from the beginning.
does this mean we should all start drinking more?
Someone has to serve the 1% and their newfound wealth. This is the trickle down wealth effect. Yellen better hope the 1% tips well.
America may soon collapse.
America will soon collapse.
FIFY
Much of this is about the smokescreen of taxes; taxes are spoken of like most people pay a lot of taxes. Since 50% pay Nothing, where is the money coming from?
Businesses in this country are taxed and feed (fees charged for this; fees charged for that) into the ground and That is where the money to redistribute via walmart's food stamp and welfare benefit's program comes from. Cause you know walmart is now just an extension of the govt's desire to infantisize Americans by telling them they don't need to work in order to buy what they want and sleep all day while procreating another welfare mouth by night.
Here's a fun but scary experiment. Get a baseball cap with a conservative slogan on it and walk through walmart. Watch the heads swivel like The Exorcist. They will eat you so don't hang around too long.
America is already collapsing.
Obama is just selling snakeoil.
No manufacturing renaissance can compete with THIS.
http://www.taobao.com/
At least, until that yellow metal finally hits its true value and that yellow country backs its fiat with it.
The question is: when will it choose to shoot its own 2 feet?
Wage growth is great if you're 65 and older (i.e., working while retired). Otherwise, it's not.
http://www.advisorperspectives.com/dshort/charts/census/median-household...
If you like your bartender, you can keep your bartender. Or become one yourself.
Don't these service types manufacture happiness when serving you that alcholic drink?
Give it a while; we can swap waiters and bartenders for stay at home pot smokers.
Chatted not long ago with an accountant working here on a work visa, because...after all...we have no colleges or universities graduating accountants.
He was a very hostile guy. The company he works for pays him one-half (his words not mine) what they pay American accountants. Now consider that these work visa employees feel "injured" by their pay or their temporary status or anything else that might irk them, do ya think they aren't sabotaging their employers in whatever way they can, when they can?
No company that is located in this country should be allowed to hire Any foreign workers; And if we give the university and college slots to our OWN kids rather than foreignes we'd have plenty of engineers and computer coders and whatever else we need. But your kid can't get in because the jerk offs at the universities and colleges want that foreign student money to pay for their free cars, their pay that is way beyond anything the rest of the world is paid, and of course, look at the university presidents and see what they make. Why any university president makes over 100,000 is beyond me and is The Reason I contribute nothing to my university in response to their endless requests for alumini donations.
I guess this goes with the hard drinking cop thing. Ever wonder how they sleep at night? Now ya know.