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About America's Sudden Fascination With Hiring Young Women
Yesterday, when we presented what we thought at the time was "The Strangest Number In Today's Jobs Report" namely the near record surge in workers aged 16-24, which amounted to 528K, or the vast majority of job additions in the month of October...
... we may have been a bit premature.
As it turns out breaking down the job surge from September to October by gender provides an even more peculiar result then an age distribution. Because as the chart below shows, of the 416K jobs added in the 20 and over category, a meager 10% of these went to men: some 90%, or 370,000, went to women! Men aged 20 and over were the recipients of a paltry 48,000 jobs, or 10% of the total increase.
So how does one explain America's sudden surge in hiring women, and not just any women, but mostly young ones (because we know from yesterday that the bulk of hiring was in the young, 16-24 age group).
Well, as we also showed yesterday, the ongoing record hiring of bartenders and waiters may have something to do with it.
Or rather, now that we know the gender of the job additions, waitresses.
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Sex always sell. Best to hire attractive, young women to sell GMO-poisoned food. Suicide is painless then:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gO7uemm6Yo
Since the new Anerican heavy industry is coffee huts this trend makes perfect sense.
I'd pack 'em in and name 'em all Tina.
Why be so restrictive in your choice of names? Here are the 5 most popular names chosen by adult actresses:
Nikki
Angel
Candy or Candi
Amber
Alexis
http://humour.wikinut.com/5-Most-Common-Names-Chosen-By-Adult-Film-Actre...
One same name simplifies defense of the homefront.
"I'm ready for Hillary" [because I'm a stupid motherf***ing iFone worshipping c***]
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Hopefully, my perky tits will sucker in some males and lesbos along the way
Some metros* and lesbos.
Makes sense. Gay CEO's can feel more at home.
Cuz young women love gay guys?
CFO: Chief "Fabulooousss" Officer. How bout dat.
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Get em' young. Freeze their eggs. Tie their tubes.
Not a "hiring freeze" its a population control "family freeze". Of course, this is misogyny.
Silicon Valley just got darker: freezing female employees' eggs is anything but kind Companies like Facebook appear to offer their staff the dream: free food, beds and break-out zones. But do they really have their best interests at heart - especially now they are funding egg freezing? Emma Barnett isn't convincedhttp://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/womens-life/11163558/Apple-and-Facebook-just-got-darker-freezing-female-employees-eggs-is-anything-but-kind.html
The reason for the data report is (a) fudge factor of seasonal adjustments (b) seasonality - most of these jobs are service sector retail at places gearing up for another dismal holiday consumer spending letdown, (c) healthcare & additional governmental compliance requirements due to new, onerous legislation/regulations, which creates private sector AND government jobs.
As far as the overall economy is concerned, get your shit in order, because we're heading straight into an historic crisis, as automation & technological analysis via metadata will literally make half of the U.S.'s AND WORLD'S current jobs expendable soon (manufacturing-intense nations such as China, South Korea, Germany have even more at risk, which is their existence in anything close to current form, than even the U.S.).
Governments will be attempting to devise ways to keep labor participation rates from collapsing to the 50% and even 40% levels in order to stave off revolutions.
Get prepared for the Big Shit Storm. We've only got the appetizer thus far.
One of my customers is a Fortune 50 company. Of course they have a "hiring freeze", but every Monday it seems a couple of young women are getting new-hire orientation, never a man, in almost two years of observation.
What you are seeing is the effect of Bitchez, Inc. taking over.
Once they get into power, that's it for straight, white, males. This is especially true when the lesbians take over; straights (unless they are straight play-around females who can pussy-tease the lesbians) are cut ruthlessly and replaced by gays.
The truth is that the Gay Mafia is a truly power-hungry group that takes no prisoners. Just watch what they do to the GOP with their control of the MSM.
So be prepared to watch more and more of this.
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yup, forget about the military arming up for wars, forget about the full-spectrum control of Wall Street, the money changers, the parliaments/governments/corporate war machines, quite obviously dominated by men in suits/uniform, all purse-strings held in white man-hands.
the straight white males are under MASSIVE ATTACK by the lesbos, feminists, Gay Mafia!!!
yer losing the global war on straight white mens.
when Bitchez, Inc. takes over we can stay home and care for the babies, hang out w/ out friends, play video games and let them run the world into the ground. sounds like a win-win to me, except for the raisin' babies and world into the ground part. you take the good with the bad, i guess.
imagine how quickly the world would go to hell w/ chicks in charge. you think we're fiscally challenged now? just wait til they start running up the deficit for Manolo Blahniks and Jimmy Choos!
Well limacon seems to have a theory that the matriarchy reigned over a world of peace for 60,000 years. But then supposedly they went cannibal. Whole new definition of man eater eh?
we had better find a way to make autistic children into soldiers. There are predictions of 50% of US children born in 2020 being autistic.
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Maybe that's why Obama wanted those Central American kids in the country. No vaccines, no autism, future soldiers.
It's not a new idea.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernst_R%C3%B6hm
Sorry, what this really means is the job numbers are bogus. The numbers presented are a near statistical impossibility.
The whole radical feminism indoctrination on college campuses has bred this subtle takeover. Everyone's being brainwashed to believe that WHITE MALES are responsible for ALL of society's ills.
That damn "white privilege" is so undeserved, and makes life so easy for all the white men. There's no such thing as a white man who has ever had to struggle or go through hard times in his life. Just having balls and white skin make life wonderful and peachy for a person, and so we all need to hate and oppress them just like they've oppressed everyone else throughout the ages.
Oh come on, you really think WHITE MEN can't get JOBS? Check your privilege.
Good post. I will add that it is instructive to look into which women led the 'second wave feminism' movement, what their backgrounds were, and who funded them. Their plan to destroy Western society is working a charm.
By the way, for Australian and other 'Five Eyes' readers, check out youtube.com/australianroundtable The more independent analysis we get of what is happening today, the better.
Are the young women attractive or fat ugly intelligent mesomorphs?
If they are attractive with a reasonable level of fecundity we can surmise that they are there for sexual gratification purposes of management during the refractory period between business quarters.
True fact. My last job for a big firm. In my last years there, I saw a nearly 10 -1 ratio of women to men hired. And this is also fact, of the few men hired, 2 were clearly openly gay. Not that any of this bothered me. I liked having women around me. But lets be clear, women have the college degrees, they look much better, have good grades, and come to work on time every day. Men are fucking losing it! They don't get educated, take way too many drugs and too much booze, and those tatoos don't help.
Men are sinking fast in America. Some day this will come back to haunt all those employed ladies.
Already played out in the black community, yes? All the single ladies, all the single ladies...Don't want no scrub.
Right. It's all by design. My own relatives said so over 40 years ago. They knew it was just a matter of time till the whites were reduced to the lowest common denominator.
Women are usually more manageable by the fedgov. At least, until this election cycle.
http://graphics.wsj.com/exit-polls-2014/
http://www.commdiginews.com/politics-2/commentary/was-the-black-vote-ins...
When the large tech company I worked for had a huge layoff in 2009, 99% of the people laid off were middle-aged men. Of course, to get their severance benefits, they had to agree not to sue or disparage their former employer for age and sex discrimination.
I quit, so I can talk about it.
There are numerous studies that also validate the strong same in-group bias of women in HR departments and also with school teachers. Showing preferential hiring decisions and also grades given to students, based on if the resume or test was signed as male or female. (anti-male discrimination.) This is not seen in male hiring or grading decisions. I have noticed a bias in the termination of problem employees. Incredibly easy to terminate males compared to females, the only exception I saw was a black male who took quite a bit of documentation to fire. The men should have been terminated but the women who should have been terminated were given preferential treatment no doubt about it. In my industry there is essentially no difference in the quality of men and women who apply. Slackers of both sexes, more women than men abuse the family leave legislation using it to get holiday time off, a very selfish and entitled attitude. and occasionally a woman will use the I am uncomfortable or scared line when they want to get out of the x-tra effort of orienting a student (rare but it happens) men end up getting called out on their BS, women not so much ( HR and the patriarchy thing, don't you know) I am tired of the double standard and the spin of the MSM. What happened to equality and justice and judging one on their performance regardless of sex or ethnicity. I guess I am just an old foolish libertarian who believes in equality and the essence of the Constitution and Bill of Rights.
I'm with you on everything, except the "on time" part. Sometimes I feel like i've been waiting around for women to show up for half my life.
I've been saying on ZH for years that female managers are hiring women preferentially due to notions of "feminist solidarity," and because they still generally work for less, and that male managers are hiring women preferentially because they generally work for less, and occasionally they fuck the boss. It's that simple. Been going on for years and years, worsening since, at the latest, 1990. The only cure is a real economy based on real production, in which more men would be hired regardless.
They're floating on a sea of fiat paper, as designed. If that ever goes away, they'll 'definitely' have to eff the boss, not just 'occasionally'.
Wait until Hillary becomes Prez and along with the Go-Girl momentum achieved, they pass the Pay Equity legislation, based on the bogus 75 cents on the dollar mantra (lie) that the feminists, democrats (Obama, Hillary and gang) and the yellow jounalism of the MSM (Rachel Maddow) repeat without any regard to the truth. We can look forward to another bloated federal agency of sociology and womens studies graduates who not only will work for the government and have their student loans forgiven but will mandate that their pay, based on their advanced degrees should be cosiderably more than blue collar male workers who have more dangerous and physically demanding jobs and who by the way are creating or maintaining the infrastructure that this nation requires and who are also via the taxes they pay now funding this bogus agency and the forgiven insolvent student loans (much of it used for eating out and concerts etc.) It is discrimination that pre-school teachers do not make as much as coal miners, how about a huge tax subsidy to pay for pre-school education "Yeah, Thats The Ticket" and men need not apply because they are child molesters, any discussion to the contrary is misogynistic and a "WAR ON WOMEN" ( + the republicans are to cowardly to oppose it)
The sight of perky breasts always makes the beer taste better.
Seriously, who doesn't like a nice rack bouncing around the table?
(Other than Phaggz, understandably.)
"Sex always sells" - good for click bait too. well done, weekend Tylers.
"DEY TOOK R JAWBS!!!" "BITCHEZ, BITCHEZ!!!"
enjoy yer threads 'Hedgers!
Utilising my awesome powers of clairvoyance, I have deduced that you're not a man.
Is I right?
outside the window, a big dog races back 'n' forth, barking, tail-waggin', back 'n' forth, but never crossing a line defined by his owner. . .
barkin' like a dog, runnin' like a dog, waggin' the doggy tail - his whole reality defined by the invisible fence.
I'm not the dog, nor am I the fence.
merely the observer, commenting.
Way too deep for Saturday football-watching time.
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on this we can agree.
that 'invisible' fence is really a taser wrapped around the dog's neck, for when he decides he's gonna try to step outside the bounds his 'owners' have defined for him.
that analogy don't work in Fascist America.
This technology - http://www.hiddenfence.com.au/
As Charlie Wilson said "you can teach them to type, but you can't teach them to grow tits"
The War on Women!
XqWretch
The biggest conflict to women won’t be men… And won’t be another woman, either.
Trannies?
yeah but guys the WAGE GAP :(
Methinks you are being facetious - it's the thigh gap...
ITGs are the way to a man's heart!
In a nutshell: "Can't Pay Won't Pay"
More blowjobs and hookers
That would explain the spike in female workers. They do the statistics like in the EU now, where prostitution and drug trafficking counts as GDP.
Why not count murder in the US?
Better than 80 thousand per state"..... Lie
Given the choice between hiring a fat hairy middle aged guy with kids and a mortgage or hiring a 23 old stacked hottie for your 26 hour a week open PT minimum wage job pimping Chinese plastic crap. Who would you hire? Unless, of course, bears are your thing.
The spread between those numbers is indicative of a very high level of dysfunction. Hell, it's nearly ten fold.
I don't care what the demographic breakdown is. All these young whippersnappers need to get out there and be productive.
How else will I continue to get my SSI?
YeeeeeeeeeeeeeeHawwww!!
Bring it on bitchez!
hairball48
Could you please describe, and give some examples of your jargon: "productive"
Is "deproductive" a word yet?
IDK but diversity is, and means the same thing.
Listen EI.
I see you trolling around trying to spread your neoclassical perversions. I'm "WATCHING".
Seems like there should have been some temporary election jobs created in October.
ding ding ding! we have a winner!
Try getting out of a checkout line, with these MINDLESS Young Bimbettes !
That's why I use the self-checkout lines
Need a bunch of unproductive, idle male youths to foment revolucion.
Hooters must be doing well.
Sadly Hooters is doing terrible. They better start making the waitresses go topless to stay relevant. As one person said in businessweek said, "What once was risqué seems kind of tame when your average eigth grader wears shorter shorts than a Hooters girl."
After enough is pushed in your face from every direction possible, you get numb to it. Must have an effect. Look what's happening in Japan. Young people are not having sex. Males go to the two hour hotels and check in without girls, so they can use the free internet service. The USA will get there, for sure.
I travel around the country for business and I try to go to the local Hooters; the looks of the gals should be representative of the locals. Twin Peaks is a fast-growing competitor and wherever there is a Twin Peaks near a Hooters, the Hooters is dead empty. The gals at Twin Peaks are there to talk with the customers, have a good time, and are totally hot; whereas at most Hooters, the attitudes of the gals is that you are bothering them and lucky to be there. Recently, I've been to the Twin Peaks in Denver and in Round Rock, Texas. A fantastic dining experience :-)
Might be worth considering a rival to Hooters to cater to the new demographic of wage earners. You could call it Cooters and fill it with aging, bearded, mooby, fatherly types for the discerning young ladies with daddy issues. A win-win.
Kodiak: six top salmon boats lost crew MEN in 2013 midway through the season.
Who replaced them for the rest of the season? Young women.
And old farts like me who got to work with one of these hardworking replacements.
Same thing for Bristol Bay, where I've worked many years. Tough chicks picking fish.
Boom to Bust on Bristol Bay - Pacific Fishingalexcojones
What happened to the men?
By the way, I quickly browsed through your (52 pages) link, but did not find the answer.
Something about "fish not fresh".
Escrava,
They got off the boats because early season salmon is harder than later season pink salmon. Also tough for young guys if they are not used to being yelled at for 16 hours a day.
Here is a better link about my varied fishing experience (yeah I wrote it)
Good skipper, bad skipper"Kodiak: six top salmon boats lost crew MEN in 2013 midway through the season. Who replaced them for the rest of the season? Young women."
Not a problem. Oceans are rapidly being depleted of fish and energy prices are going up (boats use a lot of fuel). All Fish are now highly contaminated since we choose to use the World's oceans as a giant toilet. The World needs a lot less fisherman. Although I don't wish Fisherman any harm or disrespect.
Man has not enough blood for both
87% of the women in that group are fat.
Most seasonal hires at malls and big box stores are young women. Got to get ready for the legions of women that will try to kill each other for 5 for $10 panties at Victoria's Secret.
Record seasonal hiring is always followed by record layoffs in January. Also most stores have dropped full time staff in favor of part time staffers, mostly hired at lower wages. Stores that used to have six full time employees now have two full time and ten part time. Makes the job numbers look good and stores can claim they are hiring people even though most workers are lucky to get 8 hours a week.
However, Twin Peaks and Tilted Kilt are expanding massively and those girls are making quite a bit of money. Only ten percent of women or less have the assets to work there, so that positive trend can't cover the majority of the surge.
Western governments always invest more in the female gender because
they produce babies [new cohorts of serfs] for the Bankster's largesse.
Males are not needed to raise the children as the Nanny State has planned to accept them into state run daycare, state run breakfast programmes,
state run educational systems, and state run welfare systems. This facilitates mass consumerism, cartel pricing, and adherence to the corporate Nanny State system that provides the protection that fathers typically provided in the pre-Nanny State era. Governments figured out that they can double their tax base and monetary intake by making sure that single mothers are the norm and traditional parenting is not. In brief, the Government wants your child to identify with the state as parent like and a provider of all the needs of the family. This divide and rule tactic is used to double the tax base and completely control the thinking, personality, and future of children indoctrinated into that way of life. Moreover, by giving females the lions share of employment the government is essentially telling all males that they are not significant
partners with government, women. or the family. In this respect, males internalize the Nanny State messaging, realize they cannot compete with BIG Government for scarce resources and slip into learned helplessness and eventually hopelessness. This facilitates a strong identification with money as being the only means to power and effectively corrupts the will and determination of young men. At this juncture, males are desperate for indentity that appeals to women en masse and they gravitate towards careers that provide cartel pricing
in the six figure range. Police, Fire, EMS, unionized Government jobs,
et cetera. Moreover, after being indoctrinated, males head back to school [cartel pricing] in order to compete for sex, money, and societal recognition through a constant quest for monetary security that will enhance their social standing and prospects for sexual gratification.
Alternatively, for the males that cannot compete in terms of education there is always another track to attain money that many are tracked
into through failure. In brief, risk taking criminal activity becomes the fall back position that many many males take to succeed in terms of attaining hierarchical needs based desires. In essence, the government only needs to control what men want in order to control how men act and behave in society. Banksters have figured out how to control governments through banks and how to control whole populations through disposable income. The message is clear to all young men in society and that messaging forces them to identify with the objectives of educators and governments if they want to attain their lofty goals
in life and get laid at the same time. Government is _not_ stupid, but populations are.
As the Soviet children used to say, the Heroic Red Army is my father and the Glorious Communist Party is my Mother, when I grow up I want to be an orphan.
Well, it are all "service" jobs so who wants to be "serviced" by anything else than a young girl?
And sure... To get the girls comming to you they need drivers. And that's where the guys come in.
And I guess a guy can drive arround about 9 chickens so the math it right...
Like a friend once said to me when his wife was pregnant:
I HOPE IT'S NOT A GIRL BECAUSE, FACE IT, AT A CERTAIN POINT IN HER LIFE SHE'LL BE ON HER KNEES SUCKING DICK!
And no dad wants to think about that...
dad's should think about that. . .
as they type their fantasies on the threads, they should picture their daughter's face in their pixels shared. picture their daughters the way others picture other daughters, hm.
if more dad's would, perhaps some "aha" moments would happen.
. . .nahhh. . .
I once read an interview of a Japanese guy who had used the services of Korean "comfort women" during the war. A lot of them of course were very young, never mind the fact that it wasn't willing. He said that it was only after he had a daughter himself, that he realized it was a bad thing, and that it disturbed him to have done it. Is it so fucking hard to consider the perspective of another living creature? Apparently.
It looks like we're going to get a lot Christmas/holiday themed porn this year...
I wonder how much of that hiring can be attributed to JPM & Goldman Sachs for their holiday parties?
Obamacare consequence .
Women make better workers , except for that pesky baby thing .
Now Obamacare has levelled the playing field , and women are strongly preferred .
(Especially iro paternity leave and maternity care costs .)
The bean counters then prefer women new hires . 90%to 10%
They cost the same , but bring in more than men .
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http://www.forbes.com/sites/eliseackerman/2013/02/24/superiority-of-fema...
Superiority of Female Workers Confirmed: Study Finds Women Really Do Work Longer And Harder Than Men
The findings of new study conducted by the Ponemon Institute, an independent research consultancy, on behalf of 3M
I call PC bullshit on that article.
I've had the opportunity to work alongside many women many of whom were awesome, and some of whom were LAZY just like my brethren the men.
Now, to imply that just because I am a man who happens to work from fucking 6:00AM to 6:00PM M-F or whenever else my clients may need me plus weekends, and who has no such thing as a vacation or sick leave while running my business is some sort of slacker is highly offensive to me.
Fuck you and the horse you rode in on Forbes and the piece of shit Bankster cock sucking Ponemon Institute.
Its goalseeking. Theyre looking at 5 minute intervals which is really meaningless as a measure of how 'hard' someone works.
Honestly I dont give a shit how many hours you work, all I care about is what you get done over time (and if you're available to clients if applicable). If two salaried workers get the exact same amount of work done, I'd honestly rather have the one that does it in a shorter number of hours.
Depends on whether the one who does it in the shorter time cuts corners or does things in a less than ideal or maintainable fashion.
Good quality work requies time. Those who fail to see that usually get what they pay for.
I'm self employed there chief so I have to do it ALL. I don't get paid for any back end work either. I start working before my clients do so I can get things done and planned and work after for the same reason.
Owning a business means you work more, period, as you have many more responsibilities. In fact, it does make one appreciate being just an employee.
Also, I'll never take a salaried position ever again as that is just a recipe to get abused. I'm also in the top 1% of what I do so stack me up against almost anyone, and I'll more than likely kick their ass or will have their respect if they beat me. Frankly, I wish I could just work 9 to 5, but I do what it takes to keep that roof over my head.
I do agree with your goalseeking point as it's so obvious.
Skateboarder: What I do is incredibly detailed and rushing the work leads to disasters. It also requires a lot of long term planning and testing plus I'm highly experienced. I am also known for my projects to have very high rates of success.
We're on the same page, CoastalCowboy. I work for a very small business providing design services in the electronics/products & accompanying software (of all levels) field. Highly reputable for a long history of delivering successful, reliable, high quality products. Not the kind of place where a simple 9-5 existence will cut it. I am salaried and give my time unconditionally because my bosses (founders/owners) do the same to keep their business alive and thriving.
I don't think normal corporate 9-5ers fully understand the amount of hard work and dedication it takes to own and run a small business.
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The majority probably fit that, but there are some who do know either directly or indirectly and want nothing to do with it, or recognize they are not cut out for it or have a spouse that won't tolerate the inevtiable ups and downs.
No, they don't understand at all, Skateboarder, as they never have had to do it. I'm in a technical field also where failure is not an option. The failure percentage of technical projects is amazingly high witness the Obamacare Exchange. Most people cannot work at or even contemplate the level of detail it takes to pull off successful technical projects, and it's not easy for those who can.
My favorites are when my 9 to 5 friends want to do things on paid holidays or weekends. They're like "but it's the Fourth of July", and I have a pile of invoices to process or working on some code, because it's quiet that day. They literally just don't get it.
Small business is where the rubber meets the road. There are benefits though as in not having to go to stupid HR mandated PC courses where I am "brainwashed" by consultants as to why I should feel guilty about being a white male.
I've been chucked overboard twice after two corporate buy outs from highly paid technical niche positions after 9 and 11 year tenures respectively where I made a lot of money for my employers and was well compensated for my efforts.
I literally cannot afford for that to happen to me again so I am a mercenary for life. Plus, the title of this thread leaves us middle aged males no other choices provided the premise is true...Ha Ha Ha!!!!
I'm obviously not cut out to be a corporate drone either, but I'm in full agreement with Uncle Remus too as the ups and downs suck.
As an addendum to this testimony of the joys of running a small business, I have been working with the IRS for months after a computer snafu lead to them claiming that I owed them money when I did not. I just got a letter from them stating they agreed with me, and are sending me a refund. God bless them all, as I know they are being overworked by implementing Obamacare. W-2 employees you have no idea the BS we entrepreneurs have to deal with on all levels so rejoice in your simplicity. I, however, thrive on it.
My advice to others with IRS problems is to always call the IRS in the morning as the reps are much more friendly and willing to help than at the end of the day. They did a great job in helping me through this too so my hat is off to the IRS for thier service to me.
Having hired a number of young, attractive women I can say they have never exceeded my expectations. Fun for a while, but when it comes down to getting the work done, they often find a way not to deliver.
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Major retailers, most sales jobs also lean now towards young women. Because lets be real, everyone loves a young woman. Even the not so good looking women are pretty at age 21! If your business depends on sales and all that, who better to make people feel good than young women?
My friends son worked for a major big box building supply chain. He told me that the rules from above were, hire as many young women for the floor sales as you can. And if you can, lean towards tall, lean, blond girls. I know this is true, because when I built my house, I almost lived in their stores for a year! What did I see, tall, young and often blond little beauties all over the store!
Another quick one. I knew a guy who was in sales for big Pharma. He was getting on towrds 45 and a little dumpy with middle age spread. He watched with dread at his company sales meeting where it was becoming more and more packed with young women, well dressed in pretty clothes, high heels, and these recent college grads knew how the game was played. He began to fear for his job. He told me "If you were a Doctor with only a minute to spare, would you let a dumpy middle aged man into your office for a sales talk? Or, would you look up and see a 23 year old well dressed and groomed woman with all the looks god can provide asking "Can I talk to you for just a minute"?
Well fuck ya! You know the end of story. He and dozens of others were cut in reforms of the sales force. To his knowledge, the ladies kept getting hired!
This only makes sense. My daugher was in college. She frequented several bars and clubs on weekends. She was often asked by managers, and bouncers, or bar tenders, if she would like a job there. We all know why. You own a bar, you want a middle aged guy throwing drinks, or a real college beauty queen who will attract men like flies to sugar behind that bar?
Young women are riding high. As that is what everyone likes. But be warned ladies, that ride will end. I know that for fact!
Great post Jack! Yes, the world is your oyster for 20-30 years if you're an attractive woman. Don't squander that gift ladies.
Keep a level head and be humble... Learn and listen so you're armed with the propper skillset long before your physical advantage fades. ;-)
This does not fit the narrative of the sexist patriarchy and the "War on Women" that the MSM trumpets. Are you saying that young women have it better than young men. "I am shocked" well not really, noticed it as long as I can remember, but hey don't tell Rachel Maddow
I totally agree that young pretty women get way more attention for the obvious reason that sex sells. I elect to ignore them, and it really drives them crazy to be ignored. It really does not matter to me pretty or ugly it makes no difference on my purchase.
Most guys go "ga-ga" over a pretty girl which is why they are put there. I don't hate women, but there's nothing like the look on a good looking young woman's face when she realizes you're not worshipping her or even throw a slightly negative comment about her at her.
Actually, I find the pretty girls respect me more when I treat them this way as it's way different than what they normally get from most men. They remember me, and we always end up being friendly with each other from that point onward.
When that ride ends, it ends very hard too. I'm in my late 40's and in great physical shape due to taking great care of myself over the years. Yes, payback is a major bitch, and I find I run better with women 12 to 20 years younger than me than the bitter overweight harrigans who make up the seeming majority of my cohort. No insult intended to any women in my age range who don't fit that description, but I am not your abusive ex-husband so don't take it out on me.
Well duh. This is a no brainer for NWO and socialism.
Hasn't taking whatever you can always been the American way?? The phrase "war against women" is actually a propaganda campaign against men. There is also a government program called "cultural transformation" www.dm.usda.gov/ct.htm that federal employees must follow. All of this has nothing to do with bettering the Country of course. It's about women taking what they can now because the American attitude is soft enough for them to do it. It has little to do with anything other than bitterness and hidden agendas that certain groups want to promote. Same as it always was.. It's all about ME, bitchezz!!
ARMY, NAVY, AIR FORCE, MARINES, YOU KNOW YOU WANT TO!
Volunteers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SboRijhWFDU
Women do tend to stay longer in a Job and put up with more shit. they get promoted more often just because all the qualified men quit or moved on thinking they will get ahead.. Patience is definitely part of the career path.
Maybe the US is unofficially taking on Russian hiring practices when it comes to women. When I lived in that part of the world I remember is was very common for help wanted ads to include a Russian code word which indicated that applicant would be expected to sleep with her boss
Retailers are going broke.
Doesn't this beg the question? - Are women willing to work for less then men?
Hi-end employment as well:
Remember, before my Self employment, my Firm. did an Office improvement /remodel project for a major Insurance Co. They too have "Department of Construction" with director of, and in this case it was a stunningly beautiful girl, commonly known as "next door type" (pretty but down to earth).
Within few minutes into the meeting I realized that she has no clue about blueprints unrolled before her. One thing that I had to give it to her that she was genuinely embarrassed about all ordeal and equally grateful that I did not show any indication about that. End of meeting was a classic: "...and I will present this plans to other staff members and see how they feel about this proposal ..."
For Insurance Co. her salary was a pocket change and, probably, they had a unseen stiff (guy wearing short brown pants and white sneakers) working for half what she earned and making sure that her "decisions" were not some run-away train.
I'm going to do a 180 from other posts (although if I were upper management I would hire young women , business travel with me and end up in bed).
With that said. I have never seen so many men (since 2007. Hmm there is that year again) stay at home , while the wife commutes to work. Comes home. Cooks dinner. Takes care of kids, if any.
Maybe the joke is on women !!
This must not be the same group of males I see pushing strollers around town during the work day.
"Young, Wet, Bitches" - George Takei
In this big brother totalitarian government environment, that means more young policewomen officers. Mmmm...... I like it......
AGuy,
Bristol Bay just had an above average salmon run.
And all the fish glowed in the dark. (Not)
But the crew girls did.
Maybe men are smart enough to realize that working for a mere pittance really isn't worth it compared to sitting around and collecting benefits?
I know the reason.....it's because they only make 10% of what a man does......ergo 10x as many women get jobs, you male chauvanist pigs!
Or perhaps.....we are counting ladies of ill repute in the employment reports these days.
Hookers and blow!
Getting a paycheck is one step above "hot intern".
Where it goes from there is anyone's guess.
Maybe it was from the recent elections...
Work ethics play a part. Young males think: drink, party, riot (as happened in the Keene, NH Pumkin Festival some weeks back) and suck off parents. Seems that females are more flexible, and seem to prefer independence, or perhaps the dream of independence since one really needs about $16/hour x 40 to live on one's own. I see the same thing in a recent LNA class (Licensed Nurse Asst) 20:0 f/m. At the local supermarkets I see ~ 6:1 f:m.
Interestingly where I work the ratio is more like 90males:10 females, but this relates to the prior decade or two. A local factory that makes guns has great trouble finding workers of any sort. Perhaps because most manufacturing jobs are new temp rather then company hired, and pay so poorly males do not see a future. In the temp manufacturing I see a marked increase in females vs males too.
Females are willing to work for $8-$11/hour, males do not seem to be willing to do so.
Such an interesting world.
I just pray I never have to manage women. Seriously, I'm too insensitive. Just show up. Get stuff done. I'm sorry that I'm not your dad or friend. It doesn't make me a dick. It makes me your boss who has his own life. Spare me the drama. I don't care.
My new official email response to any email greater than 3 sentences: "ok".
as if I would believe ANY BLS stat
Most, maybe all of the young women I know are really motivated to succeed. The young men, not so much. So in my upper-middle class neighborhood, the kids who are going around, putting up notices saying that they are eager to do dog walking and suchlike, are teen girls. Among my working class relatives, it is also the teen girls who are trying to earn some money by jobs like that. I think better-off parents are less resistant to that sort of thing now; for a while they only wanted their kids to do "enrichment" things with their spare time, but any sort of earning is becoming more reputable (and, in poorer areas, more needed and appreciated).
Note that the age range in this survey is "16-24." I bet a whole lot of the "jobs" that have been created are among high school girls who are walking dogs or selling the modern equivalent of Avon. Or female college students working a few hours a week.
The guys I know can always get a few more bucks from Mom or Grandma. It's like a huge chunk of the young male population, has become like the few true losers of the last generation of the working class side of my family; living forever off the female relatives who think they are so special; the girls are never seen as so special; they can go out there and earn like other females do in that class.
There has been another shift. I told a 27 y.o. female friend that a lot of guys seemed to want to be careful not to get a girl pregnant, since then they would lose all of their future wealth and income (per all the irate ZH posts to that effect). She told me that the guys she knew had absolutely no income or hope of it, and so they didn't care whom they knocked up; they had no expectation of having any money ever so they had no fear of losing it.
When I was younger I worked as a busboy,dishwasher,fry cook that is what the males got, the females made more money as coffee girls (piece of cake) and waitresses who did work hard though not as hard as the fry cooks. Maybe young men are saying fuck it to working dirtier harder work for less money.
Your insinuation that males get more handouts than females from family sounds bogus, the last statistic I saw was that of college students, with females receiving 10% more from family to attend university. There is a significant increase in males living at home after high school. You insinuate that it is all because most males are lazy, but obviously young women have an advantage in being hired in these low skilled positions with decent working conditions and reasonable pay, a 9:1 advantage!!
Another possibility, males going to a University can't afford to get the easier softer liberal arts degrees that women can, males will still be judged and seen as desirable to women based on the money they earn post graduation. A degree in a STEM field is much more demanding academically, maybe they need to spend the x-tra time with studies instead of picking up a job to pay for clothes etc.
My first job was at McDonald's at age 16 (and yes, I did the french fries along with the register); my second job was washing dishes and peeling potatoes also at age 16. And I'm female. My best friend from highschool also had the dishwashing job, and she stayed at it; she didn't go to college. Later she worked in a factory making odometers. Those sorts of jobs are pretty miserable, whether you are male or female.
I don't think that the young men around me are lazy; I think they are depressed and demoralized and there is nothing out there for them to get. If they hustled like the young women are, it would not result in the same success, due to pro-female bias for those sorts of jobs. Given the chance, a large percentage of men will work very, very hard (read Orwell's The Road to Wigan Pier), and they will benefit from it and so will everyone else. They are not getting this chance these days;it is a gigantic waste of human potential. I think you are reading the wrong thing into what I wrote.
You are very right that women judge men on their ability to earn money, so men are much more likely to feel obliged to major in something more challenging. It will only get worse, as women do better and better (due to bias in hiring), and men have crummier options. I don't see this going anywhere good.
I really agree with almost all you wrote. I try not to just repeat the obvious truths that everyone else has posted over and over again in earlier comments; I try to add something extra; and then it ends up looking like I don't believe those obvious truths.
Small thing though: there are definitely still ethnic subcultures in the U.S. where girls are less valued than boys, and less is spent on them, and the women are seen as being the grunt workers and the men as the lovely precious ones (Italian, certain Eastern European; Asian); the young men in those cultures really are cosseted and spoiled comparatively; it was very much in my face growing up. This spoiling is actually a way of controlling them and doesn't help them one bit, but it is still obnoxious to see.
Fair enough. I try not to, but probably as a result of decades of MSM slant regarding this type of thing I misinterpreted some of your post. You BTW do a better job of substantiating and articulating your thoughts than I typically do.
Of course, the world has changed in inexplicable ways. A male college student acquaintance stopped by our place the other night on an errand. He is Korean American. He was wearing a tutu. He told us that it was part of a frat thing; the thing is that he did not seem even slightly self-conscious or embarassed (our dog wouldn't stop barking at him; everyone's a critic). Well, whatever. He is hard working and always trying to earn money, so I guess there is a young male who is highly motivated. Actually the tutu sort of suited him somehow.
always a stupid cunt
Ah, another Saturday night. I am at loose ends, hanging out with my husband and my dog. Getting bored with reading about New England cultural artifacts, and I've read all of the latest Science Daily health articles. And dogbreath does not have a date.
Look, dogbreath. Here is a bit of friendly advice. Take an art history class. Or a pottery class. Night classes are ideal. There will be females; it will be almost all females. You will have little competition; you will get some attention. If you are not a total asshole (that will be hard for you, I know), you may get to go out with one of them. You will certainly blow it at that point, because you are a damaged freak. But try again; take another art class. Persistance will pay off if you learn along the way.
do you have any clue as to how unpleasant most north american women are today. these motivated women you talk about are only interested in themselves and getting what they can from a system where the rules and standards have been changed to make it easy for women to succeed. This environment is designed for men to fail because men are punished for being men.
I don't think those women who still have their sons at home want them to leave. My guess is those men are hobbeled to serve their mothers, " MAKE MOMMY HAPPY". Look closer and dump your bias of " useless men" or "men are children". Don't expect much from men who don't have positive masculine role models
good men are invisible to women and the modern women not only doesn't have to be pleasant to amyone to get through life they seem to have taken workshops with the sisters on how to make the smallest exchange unpleasant like failing to hold a door or nearly running people over in a crosswalk. the rules of common courtesy don't apply to them.
If I am a damaged freak I have a manipulative narcicist mother and a rotton cunt of a older sister to thank for that. Its a great feeling to be thrown under the bus at every opportunity by these gentle and caring females from your own family.
The truth is few women have little if anything to offer a man and their pussy is over priced and has been driven like a rental car.
This is fight club, so ask yourself why are there so few Faaaabulous women here. Why do you think someone from ZH would find a date at a pottery class. Artsy, voted for Obama twice and would vote for Hillary even if she was a republican because she is a woman, thinks humans cause global warming and the government needs to do somthing to stop it, believes in gun control, believes in all those programs that provide free stuff to the FSA. So why would I think somthing is possible with people who have fundamental flaws in their intelligence. Tell me how I would blow it when I am getting chronicly lectured like a little boy on what is right and wrong from some femminist expert on everything. I'm tired of women telling me to put the toilet seat down. Sorry No! haha
Dogbreath, I can understand your anger believe me and some venting is expected. I think the best policy is to judge anybody based on what they do and say and go at it in calling them out on their willfull ignorance, selfishness etc.
Karenica posted nothing to warrant or deserve the use of the C-word ( I have taken to calling women who deserve it assholes so it is harder to label me as a sexist since that is the term they use on men, they hear it and get a confused look on their face :)
Personally, the group attitude of women has actually made them far less attractive to me, almost not worth the effort, amazing considering how hard-wired we are toward them.
Bottom line, your C-word response was totally uncalled for.
Vullsain,
Respectfully, don't be a white knight or Mangina. Kareninca and I have a history and this is fightclub. As you have a 17 week history and I have been here a while I'll remind you Only two to a fight. She's a big girl and can look after herself.
I'm not as angry as you might suppose. 4 generations of femminism has emasculated men in the west and the sad part is that consequences for women have been outlawed ergo frivorce for cash and prizes.
Women are going to have a rude awakening to find out how much true equality withmen will suck. I'm all for women trash collectors, women front line soldiers, women sewer maintainance workers, women heavy equipment operators, women to shovel the snow from my sidewalk, women underground miners, women fire fighter who can pass the same physical requirements that a man has to. I'm tired of seeing women parachute into a male work environment only to become some kind of surrogate mother that talks to everyone like they are little boys or cause too much drama with their intrigues
dogbreath, I do kind of appreciate that Vullsain actually reads what I wrote, and tries to respond to it. It doesn't make him a white knight; it just make him easier to reason with. I do appreciate that you posted a lot so that I can see what your reasoning is. I tend to go back and forth between reasonableness and your sort of rage; here's some reasonableness:
"do you have any clue as to how unpleasant most north american women are today. these motivated women you talk about are only interested in themselves ..."
I don't know. Since I'm female, my interactions with them are different. They are pleasant enough to me. I can guess that they act differently towards males, of course. I don't think they are all only interested in themselves; I know plenty of them who care about family members or pets, and definitely some of them I know care about their boyfriends or husbands.
"the rules and standards have been changed to make it easy for women to succeed. This environment is designed for men to fail because men are punished for being men"
Yes, a system that rewards compliance, social skills, and doesn't value physical strength or physical aggression (in its good as well as its bad sense), is going to reward females. That's right.
"I don't think those women who still have their sons at home want them to leave. My guess is those men are hobbeled to serve their mothers, " MAKE MOMMY HAPPY"."
That is EXACTLY what I wrote above. Read it. I am very familiar with that dynamic. It didn't exist in my family, but I saw it in others. The boys are "spoiled" by their mothers, whose goal in spoiling them is to control them and make them helpless AND KEEP THEM FROM BONDING WITH ANOTHER WOMAN (A WIFE). It is really common in Italian families for instance. It is common as dirt. It was one of the standard ways for women to control men in the old days; emasculate them by spoiling them.
"Look closer and dump your bias of " useless men" or "men are children". Don't expect much from men who don't have positive masculine role models"
You are projecting onto me someone else's views. My personal experience is of competent, adult males: father, brother, husband. Not childlike at all. They are massively screwed up, but not in that way. The "men are children" thing is very alien to me; I had to have it explained to me years ago before I was able to understand what I was seeing
"If I am a damaged freak I have a manipulative narcicist mother and a rotton cunt of a older sister to thank for that."
My husband's mother was manipulative and narcissistic. His older brother was, I am willing to bet, a lot worse than your sister. The damage seems to be permanent. For some reason, this has not caused my husband to dislike women; in fact he likes women.
"The truth is few women have little if anything to offer a man and their pussy is over priced and has been driven like a rental car."
Blah, blah, blah. What does one human ever have to offer another human? Look: you have the option of seeking out the company of men, but you aren't. Humans are selfish and flawed; lower your expectations.
"This is fight club, so ask yourself why are there so few Faaaabulous women here."
Most women have other interests; they care about their families and their hobbies and their pets and their jobs, and that takes up all of their time.
" Why do you think someone from ZH would find a date at a pottery class. Artsy, voted for Obama twice and would vote for Hillary even if she was a republican because she is a woman, thinks humans cause global warming...."
For one thing, I wasn't always a libertarian; I used to be a liberal. My mother used to be a liberal, and now her views do not fit the usual categories. Also, if you think that you are going to find a spouse who agrees with you on much of anything, that is an absurd requirement; marriage partners have historically never agreed on much of anything. If you want agreement, you need a rubber doll.
I think that you are combining your socio-political needs, and your emotional needs, too much. They are two different things. You are using socio-political stuff, as an excuse to avoid emotional issues.
Sorry, must go; dog and husband are getting buggy.
K
That reply is perfect proof why it is useless to talk with most women. Loads of exceptions and logical fallicies but like my valid criticisms of women including those in my family, you seem to be genetically unable to SEE it.
You a libertarian?? You strike me as a progressive.
dogbreath, if I can do anything, it is reason. I majored in philosophy at at top four university, in a top philosophy department, and took grad classes there too, and did very well indeed. And then went on to get an advanced degree in a field that is all about reasoning. I reason with painful accuracy. You, on the other hand, are a muddle of hostile emotions (just like you accuse women of being). You aren't taking up any of the points I made; you're just rejecting them in an emotional manner.
It is clear that you don't want to like women, or be around them. Any suggestion that you intereact with them, causes you to angrily reject the suggestion. Have you considered that perhaps you are really gay but in denial? If everything about women feels and seems wrong to you (and that does seem to be the case), that could be a real message. Straight men acknowledge the difficulties of relationships with women, but conclude that they are worth the trouble; straight women do the same thing with men. Gay men in denial just keep telling themselves that women are evil-bad-nasty, that way they don't have to face that they are gay.
Well, I have to move on. This took a lot of effort, but ended up being depressing and pointless.
you mistake reasoning for ideology and apologetics. Men cannot be friends with women because men want sex and intimacy and women want provisioning. It used to be a trade, now its theft by government coercion. I have 4th year undergraduate Rhetoric. You Fail in your rhetoric period.
If you were a real woman I could make you cum until you begged me to stop. Gay people are the real victims of women like my mother and sister emasculating their boy children/siblings.
You have a degree in ideology, hardly in Philosophy. Womens Studies Hahahahah
You said " It is clear that you don't want to like women, or be around them. Any suggestion that you intereact with them, causes you to angrily reject the suggestion. Have you considered that perhaps you are really gay but in denial? If everything about women feels and seems wrong to you (and that does seem to be the case), that could be a real message. Straight men acknowledge the difficulties of relationships with women, but conclude that they are worth the trouble; straight women do the same thing with men. Gay men in denial just keep telling themselves that women are evil-bad-nasty, that way they don't have to face that they are gay" <------- This is complete intellectual garbage and why I have not much respect for the university educated. Why are you on ZH again.
K
Come to think about it you are the perfect rubber doll. You are well past your fertility stale date and you do the dishes and the laundry. So all your beta boy has to do is tolerate your inane ramblings and hopefully he gets to dump a load in you whenever he wants. He doesn't have to disinfect you afterwards either, self-cleaning. Perfect
dogbreath, has it ever occurred to you that the reason that your mother rejected you, is because you are in fact not any good? That she was doing the right thing, to treat you badly? Maybe you were a nasty creature from day one, like you are now, and she was responding to that. And the same with your sister; perhaps her treatment of you, although unkind, was appropriate, given what you are innately like.
My husband, who is an alpha male, tall, handsome, top in his field, does the dishes.
I guess I won't bother responding to your posts anymore. You seem to have a real fixation on me, ick, ick, ick. You do stalk my comments; how gross. No need to reply; I won't be checking.
You are so retarded. Women decieve constantly, men have to hide their feelings because everyone exploits them. You are so far off base its hilarious. My mother didn't reject me. How the fuck could you assume she was right to treat me badly. According to my middle sister I was the nicest boy. You stupid cunt, this was abused and fuck you and your degree in advanced brainwashed.
My eldest sister takes only the silver medal in the Cuntlympics. She was 6 years older and physically larger untill I was 16. I know a guy who's sister takes the gold medal. The age difference was even greater and she would tie up my friend "j doe" to a tree and physically and sexually abuse him from an early age. Do you want to apologise for that cunt too??
Alpha doesn't do the dishes and Alpha has lots of kids, you stupid cunt.
Quit bashing men or their perspective if you want a break because you are the embodiment of marxist femminism
Youth, wasted on the young.
Cathartes Aura
rocked this thread ;-)
The increase is due to college students being hired to work at their places of study. Remember that students are exempt from Social Security medicare and unemployment taxes. In essence it is the replacement worker pool for undocumented workers whom for years were able to undercut American citizen's rates of pay by ~15 percent due to zero tax burdens. No doubt special arrangements are made off campus with employers looking for cheap labor, where the school "lends" out it's student slave labor.
Eventually this will come up and bite women in the ass.
In fact, it's already started.
Can't tell you how many stories I hear about from other females at work who've witnessed a chick get the ole snatch-n-grab of their Iphones on the subway system.
It's even got to the point where a female was attacked for her cellphone at a bus stop in front of other people waiting for a bus. No surprise, no one stepped in to help her.
Women should ask themselves the question "What will all these disenfranchised males do with the rest of their lives?" "How will they survive?"
Simple...................women are employed, men are not. See a woman on the street, chances are she's got some cash or valuable on her like jewellery and such. So.................who are you going to roll?