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Natives Getting Restless: Protesters Set Fire To Door Of Mexican President's Ceremonial Palace
Following the massacre of 43 students who were allegedly abducted by corrupt police in southwestern Mexico in September, violent anti-establishment protests have broken out across the nation. As Reuters reports, demonstrators set fire to the door of Mexican President Enrique Pena Nieto's ceremonial palace in Mexico City as the Mexican people are angered at Nieto's visit to China (at a time when he should, in their eyes, be focused on domestic issues).
The violence has been condemned, "You can't demand justice while acting with violence," said Nieto but it seems the people's restlessness is growing - not helped by the cancellation of a high-speed rail contract last week as opposition lawmakers accused the government of rigging the bidding.
Mexican President Enrique Pena Nieto on Sunday condemned violent protests over the apparent massacre of 43 students after demonstrators set fire to the door of his ceremonial palace in Mexico City on Saturday night.
Tens of thousands of Mexicans have taken to the streets to protest the government's handling of the case of the missing students, and last night protesters in central Mexico City set fire to the door of the National Palace.
"It's unacceptable that someone should try to use this tragedy to justify violence," Pena Nieto told reporters at the airport in Anchorage, Alaska where he was en route to China. "You can't demand justice while acting with violence."
The students were abducted by corrupt police in southwestern Mexico in September. Though the government said on Friday it looked as though the students had been killed, then incinerated by gangsters working with the police, it stopped short of confirming their deaths for lack of definitive evidence.
Pena Nieto's trip to China has infuriated protesters and relatives of the students, who believe he cares more about Mexico's business interests than trying to deal with the gang violence that has ravaged much of the country for years.
The trip to China has faced problems since before it began.
On Thursday night, Mexico abruptly canceled a $3.75 billion contract to build a high-speed train line that it had awarded to a Chinese-led consortium after opposition lawmakers accused the government of rigging the process.
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Consequences? Maybe... It's not just Mexico City though, as protests break out in Acapulco of all places...
Normalistas armados con machetes, garrotes y piedas, además reparten bombas molotov entre ellos. #Acapulco #Guerrero pic.twitter.com/Rd0eMlBBAG
— Noticieros Enlace MM (@EnEnlace) November 10, 2014
Normalistas y padres negocian el paso en el bulevar de las naciones para efectuar su manifestación #Acapulco pic.twitter.com/TF3hNch6Rj
— Somos el Medio (@Somoselmedio) November 10, 2014
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"You can't demand justice while acting with violence,"
Violence is the only thing they understand, and that is why they reserve it to themselves with the so-called "legal monoploy on the use of force".
But when you make it impossible to get justice from within their system, what are ordinary people to do?
Calling all illegals, go back home and take your country back. You too La Raza.
shhh, it's a trick.
How can there be so much violence when they have gun control in Mexico?
http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/2013-09-23/loking-guns-mexico-and-s...
American Vets gearing up to throw out "Obama the Foreigner".
Little chance of that.
In my experience, American veterans after the draft are no different than all other American government workers, today, except that at some point, in exchange for a paycheck, they were willing to kill people when the government instructed them to do so.
The biggest concern for veterans is keeping their government benefits. Losing their government benefits is the only thing that might cause them to act...not losing their freedom.
Why burn an innocent door?
Burn Nieto.
The system is weak in so many places.
Attack weakness, not strength.
HH, not all vets. Check out oathkeepers.
http://oathkeepers.org/oath/2014/11/01/huge-discount-on-oath-keepers-mem...
Really?
What have the Oathkeepers actually done?
Nothing.
It's because nothing is going to change without violence on US soil that is unthinkable today, or in the event of a real economic collapse. The violence that is unthinkable today is a very good deterrent from real action. I think that, if the day comes that the once unthinkable violence becomes thinkable, you'll find that the military is every bit as divided as the rest of the populace. I'll bet that quite a few of them believed the BS when they signed up, only to become disillusioned after seeing what they were told to do and why. But if they're in, Uncle Sam owns their asses.
If we really want to fix things without waiting for an economic collapse to occur first, lamp posts and ropes in DC and on Wall Street will need to be more than just a metaphor, and that will mean deciding that a war on US soil with Americans fighting Americans in the hopes of a better tomorrow is better than what we have today. That's not going to happen without people first being thrown violently outside of their comfort zones, and it's not a decision that should be taken lightly. Things will have to be bad enough that normalcy biases don't hold up against a crushing reality. We're not there yet.
So, it sounds like the Oath Keepers need to change the oath?
How about this?
Oaths are just words. Consider which Americans you'd have to line your crosshairs on and squeeze the trigger to restore liberty. Consider what those actions would do to supply chains, and all of the pain and suffering that would result. If you want to restore liberty now, you are going to have not only accept that there will be massive pain, suffering and death, but that you will be hated and blamed for it. How many people are you willing to condemn to starvation? That is a question that everybody who wants to restore liberty should be asking themselves, because it gets to the reality of the situation. There will be real human costs to be paid from such actions. I'm not going to tell you that a revolution will not become necessary, as I think that it will, but I think that everybody who wants one should be aware of just what they're asking for, and also be aware of the fact that they would be making decisions for a bunch of innocent people that would be detremental to their lives. Things are not going to change course without either a collapse, or a lot of blood spilled, or both. This will be avoided until there is no choice because of the human costs.
Don't worry, Pena Nieto will build a new door with US$100 MM of taxpayer money...oh, and a couple new homes.
you are right oathkeepers have done nothing. And neither have you HH none of you fucking losers here at Zh do anything except complain and threaten etc. Fuck you all
Only chance is to get Rand Paul in and slowly make changes. Becuase none of you with your Aks and 9 mms do anything.
Just my observation after many years of listineing to all your threats. Down vote galore. I dont fucking care.
I cannot recall making any threats.
Complaints, yes.
What would you suggest I do?
Be like a Mexican and burn down the palace door for starters. I admire you HH and your posts and recipes and nice food fotos. But if none of you ( I live in a military free country) want to burn down the door then fuck it we are lost.
Have a little faith.
And veterans before and during the draft are exchanging their silence for SS, disability payments, and VFW pomp. What's your point?
I'm a vet after the draft. I actually believed all that apple pie and goodness bullshit I was indoctrinated on, that I was serving something greater. I learned how wrong I was while serving, and it began my long journey in educating myself on real history.
Bottom line is EVERYONE EVERYWHERE is sucking at a gov't tit, whether you think you are or not. That's why the system is so insidious - It's fucking EVERYWHERE. I'm getting sick of calling out "group I'm not in" as the cause of our problems and how "they" should get off their ass and do something. Nothing is going to happen because there is nobody that is willing to put their neck out and be the first in the noose. As much as being the next ruby ridge sounds manly and such, I don't think so. We have a lot further to fall before anything will even be close to happening, and that has nothing to do with demographics or vet status.
I think you just affirmed my point.
The fact that you are expecting others to actions you yourself are not willing to undertake?
Love the dude with the battle pick...guy must play WOW, hope he has a good healer handy.
Gold Bitches....I pick up pennies
it seems that its either violence or having enough withdraw from the system altogether.
I prefer the latter as I think it would probably do less harm to the soul in the Long-term, but who knows.
The act of withdrawing from the system altogether relinquishes to them all of the benefits of living in a modern, specialized-labor economy.
The people who left Europe and came to America were seeking to escape the kind of monopolistic and looting-based systems which were in place in Europe at that time. Now there is nowhere left for us to go.
So what do you do when your back is against the wall?
We should probably open up our borders in an effort to welcome these people here.
Yes we could use all the help we can get with Washington.
That's exactly what I was thinking. We need to let the good and decent people of Mexico into the US. It's a basic human right, after all.
How will we keep the bad ones out, you say? Easy. They're the ones with masks and shifty eyes. You can pick them right out.
Corruption in Mexico...
Yeah, those fuckers really do have something to be pissed off about. You think US police are corrupt? The Mexican police run circles around ours when it comes to corruption.
Our police have much to be learned.
Ability to print reserve currency buys you little less corrupt police.
"You can't demand justice while acting with violence,"
Govt hogwash. Isn't that what a revolution is. That is what they are worried about. A revolution getting started.
"You can't demand justice while acting with violence,"
Appropriate response would be... Shuve the Justice up your arse, we're out for vengeance and your destruction.
tick, tock, tick, tock, mutherfuckers.
the clock is running down on the global fascist game pretty quickly.
I think for one spit second that our sheer numbers have them very concerned, enough to counteract with even moar violence. i say bring it as it is way the fuck over due! only way change for the better(or worse) can happen, and i'll take my chances on the outcome...
Fuck Peña Nieto. Obama's little lap dog
Isn't Mexico like that place below Okaloma someplace?
Right next to Portugal
Which we all know is next to Hong Kong.
Thats New Mexico, we're talking about old Mexico.
what an idiot. Someplace below Oklahoma. Mexico has more culture and good people in general than all the trailer trash in Oklahoma.
What's a mexican's favorite sport?
cross country
Why do mexicans wear pointed boots?
Because it makes it easier to get over a fence.
we don't need no stinking badges.
War on drugs: EPIC succes.
Walk moar guns!
Shit! Why can't we do this in the U.S.A.?!!!
Must be something in the food... That and the European and American CBs that have been raping and looting them all these hundreds of years!
Were to busy trying to pay the bills..
These poor Mexicans have been abused by thier system forever, plus the epic corruption.
Poverty, hunger, this latest horrific crime and unlimited tequila=los somebodies se pusieron para morir....
And the “vandal” who set fire to the door was a government agent. They wanted to discredit the protests of the killing of 43 teachers.
Days ago, another government agent provocateur set fire to a bus, during a peaceful massive protest. This is staged by the corrupt government.
The stated controlled media only talks about the burned bus and door and not about the thousands protesting.
Here is a picture of the guy who set fire to the door. He is behind his protectors, the police pigs.
https://twitter.com/amarilloalarcon/status/531337963683479552
Seriously? A cinder block "palace"? Dude, my family and me...we're royalty!
coming to a town near you
Mexico has been a mess for a long time. It has been hurt by NAFTA and WTO and open borders with the United States as much as America has.
NAFTA crippled Mexican-owned businesses, as American dollars went into buying into the economy. Inflation came up but wages growth lagged way behind the inflation rate.
Already slipping under the NAFTA umbrella, WTO turned Mexico into an additional conduit for Chinese goods to enter America.
The open borders are open so that all kinds of contraband from sex slaves, drugs, serf laborers, guns, and unlicensed imports came into America while Billions get laundered out of America going the other way. Mexico's open borders with the United States mean that Mexico is THE conduit for international criminals and cartels to get into America. This has turned Mexico into a gangland.
The first step to cleaning up Mexico would also be a good step for the United States. CLOSE THE BORDER!!
If criminal activity cannot get into the United States through Mexico, and criminal money cannot get through it going the other way, the incentive for international criminals to buy their way through Mexico on the way toward tapping into the U.S., that activity will drop off dramatically. The Mexican government can then isolate and cut off those domestic criminal organizations from their primary source of money.
If both the USA and Mexico work together to seal the borders, the flow of illegals and contraband into Mexico on their way to America will also be cut off.
+1
The problem is when it comes to Mexico, corruption trumps law everytime..
Try to change anything and you end up dead/missing/BarBQ'ed....
Oooh, I love Barbecue!
It partially stems from the patron system. Politics will have a "patron" who makes the decisions on who gets to do what, and a lot of dirty shit will get done to ensure that the patron's wishes are met. Stuffing ballot boxes, one guy telling the community how it will vote, bribes etc... It seems fairly mild when you look at the world at large, but when you get down to the nitty gritty, it requires some degree of corruption. It is the fish rotting from the head, so to speak, and it can, under the right circumstances get very ugly. Throw in the war on drugs, which is one of the things that makes the cartels possible, and you are contributing to the right circumstances for things to get really nasty. It is a system that can very easily turn to profit and staying in power becoming the only motivation behind the actions of those in power. All systems have that as a pitfall, but this one is particularly vulnerable to it, and it's not officially a system.
I guess they're waiting until Mexico devolves into anarchy and cannibalism before announcing M&A activity described in polite company as the "North American Union." The policy goals is to out-collpase the "European Union"
Darn, they should have done the bag of dogshit on fire outside presidentes front door trick.
Nieto is protecting his criminal fellows and allows them to profit on drugs, kidnapping, child abuse, extortion, man slaugther, cremating bodies, etc. Of course when the violence comes back as a boomerang, then it is considered inappropriate.
It is frustrating.
I hope they keep fighting and get the whole country on fire.
If they set the whole country on fire, it won't be illegals coming across, we'll be calling them refugees, and for good reason. I'll be on the front lines of receiving them whether I want to be or not. If they really want to make a difference, they should be hammering us for the war on drugs, which is what makes being in a cartel so profatable, and they should be looking at who calls the shots down there to very selectively cut a few throats. Just setting the country on fire is mob violence, which I detest because it rarely fixes things.
kind of same as obama but just dfferent issues and bribes no?
"The violence has been condemned, "You can't demand justice while acting with violence," said Nieto"
The lie that is government is that government is and for the people, when its true mandate is to plunder and pummel the people. Pummeling then becomes government's prime behavior in an effort to protect the plunder and forestall any light from falling upon the lies.
Government is violence.
To not respond with violence against their plunder and violence is to encourage more plunder and violence.
An American, not US subject.
Pffft... this is normalis operatio in Mexico, where revolution, not futbol is the national pasttime.
I'm used to seeing bricks, sticks, and M cocktails, but machetes? Ooh, eck, that's playing for keeps.
La Machet, puntas!
This is how Red Dawn started....and it was during football season as I recall!!!
In fact, you can almost always demand justice ONLY through violence. The US Founding Fathers are a case in point.
And further to the point, you have to bring down the hammer EARLY and before they expect it if you want positive results (ex. Founding Fathers v Redcoats), rather than late (ex. Jews v Hitler).
Also, look at the cops in Mexico (expected) and the US (unexpected). They're not going to stop killing innocent civilians until a lot of police die and a lot of police stations get burned to the ground.
The palace door's burning was a false flag event, the Goverment has a tendency to infliltrate this movements with violent groups so they can depict these peacefull demostrations as violent.
They guy that burned the door was later on being protected by the police and the EMP.
The article is correct regarding corruption in Mexico, a few weeks ago I was in a border town in Mexico, I noticed from US websites that about 19 cartel members had been killed by the Federal and local police. Nothing reported in the local press. It seems that the cartels were intimating the local press to not report cartel activities. There are web sites in Spanish in Mexico that report on cartel activities. One blogger came to the notice of the cartel, they offered a reward of $50,000 USD for the identity of the blogger. The cartel posted leaflets all over the state. A few days later, the blogger was identified, located , kidnapped and then murdered. She was a local woman physician
And Obama wants to "enhance" America by letting in tens of millions of these wonderful, dusky characters!
el Vaquero: I'd rather deal with Albuquerque police than Mexican police. Yes, they're that bad.
Yup, professional organisation thay have down there in NM.
http://rt.com/usa/203319-cop-dwi-newmexico-testicle/
The police, government and the cartels all work hand in hand. And the day will come when the average Mexican, who is just trying to get by, will finally lose it. When that day comes, the tables will be turned, and it will be officials and cartel members whose heads show up in a pile on the street.
The common man will put up with an awful lot, perhaps more than he should. But all patience has its limits. If you think people will fight hard to keep their wealth, imagine how hard they fight when they're protecting their families.
In any case, we'll soon have a 'situation' on our borders. What would we do should there be some kind of violent regime change down south?
Are there any Russians living in Mexico?
(Un)intended consequences of the U.S. "War on Drugs."