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Obamacare Architect Apologizes For Calling Americans "Stupid"
Having exposed the arrogance and self-admitted deception that was used to get the healthcare law past the "stupidity of American voters," it seems ObamaCare architect Jonathan Gruber regrets his comments... As The Daily Caller reports, during an interview with MSNBC, Gruber explained he "was speaking off the cuff and basically spoke inappropriately," adding, "I regret having made those comments."
Obamacare architect Jonathan Gruber said Tuesday that he regrets saying that aspects of Obamacare needed to be concealed from the public due to the “stupidity of the American voter.”
“Do you stand by the comments in that video?,” MSNBC host Ronan Farrow asked Gruber, referring to a video of Gruber explaining how a lack of transparency helped Obamacare pass into law.
The comments in the video were made at an academic conference,” Gruber said. “I was speaking off the cuff and I basically spoke inappropriately and I regret having made those comments.”
Farrow then argued on Gruber’s behalf that Gruber’s argument was more “nuanced” than people can even appreciate.
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Of course, what else would MSNBC do? Starts at around 31 seconds... (Gruber comments start at 1:20)
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We suspect what he means is "I regret being caught saying those comments."
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Nancy Pelosi is the stupidity of the American voter personified.
Don't blame the voters. Blame the Federal Reserve.
Another disgusting waste of skin in the halls of power. Hitler was right; "whenever you find something foul, more often than not; when you peel back the layers you find the same maggots underneath."
The guy is a psychopathic POS who thinks he should run everyone else's lives.
>>>> BACKWARDS !!
>>>> FORWARD !!
Skywards (exponential everything).
Moarwards!
Bang!
Apology accepted, asshole.
He apologizes for saying it, but not for actually doing it.
"I regret" is not "I apologize".
He regrets telling the truth. He should have been more careful, don't want to stir the sheeple.
"Dear American People, I'm sorry you're stupid. Love, Jon."
MSNBC - Where Rachel MadCow straps one on & anally violates
Rowan Fairy while The Reverend Al Sharpton watches while race baitin'
-- Lean Forward With MSNBC
I don't remember having an opportunity to vote for (or against) the ACA. I think the "stupid" he refers to is the stupid that permeates Congress.
This asshat "regrets" his language in describing the American people as stupid, while at the same time admits lying to the same people to get the ACA legislation passed... In the mean time, we, the people, are now paying double or triple our previous premiums with higher deductibles and fewer physicians to choose from... I'm sorry, I don't accept this socialist's apology... I want his head on a fucking pike, along with every democrat that voted for this legislation... 29 of them are gone as of last Tuesday, time for the rest to go... Where is Vlad the Impaler when you really need him?
The republicans sticking their head in the sand, kicking the can down road as in little george bush's medicare modernazition act, a trillion dollar bit of legislation with no offsets to pay for it except smoke and mirrors, an incredibly irresponsible bill that the FOX news dittoheads conveinently forget about. Meanwhile medicare would already be bankrupt, premiums would skyrocket anyway as more companies would be unable to pay the health care insurance costs that rise at least 2-3X the rate of inflation, and we would have 50 million americans without any coverage, who by the way we do not let just die on the streets in this country (at least not yet). Higher premiums Higher deductibles and Fewer physicians and also the pre-existing condition limits was baked in the cake anyway. The Republicans have been a Fucking Joke on this topic, this is not new shit, any 7th grader 40 years ago could have looked at the demographics and health care trends and have predicted the cluster-fuck we are faced with. BTW I am not happy that most of us, me included will be forced into Obamacare in the next five years but that is the plan and the republicans sitting with their thumbs up their fellow senators ass are just as, if not more responsible.
I'm trying to unpack this but the lack of paragraphs for digestive purposes is giving me indigestion.
You seem to be saying, a social conservative coming into office (Bush) and leaving as a conservative socialist, is almost as bad as a rabid communist coming into office (Obola) and leaving as a neo-fascist.
Well, I can't argue with that ;-)
nmwen,
sorry about the indigestion, the hypocricy of all this sometimes brings out my inner James Joyce stream of consciousness tendencies.
Apology not accepted, crucify him on the tree of woe!
No need to apologize, it brings out my inner Poe-Carlin ;-)
words vs. deeds.
Fewer woards, more action.
JONATHAN GRUBER
MIT Department of Economics
50 Memorial Drive, E52-355
Cambridge, MA 02142-1347
Phone: 617-253-8892
Fax: 617-253-1330
E-Mail: gruberj@mit.edu
Anything on his home address? ;-)
Not to worry... There is a nail gun incident in his near future...
Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.
Moar...
"Mr. Gruber has spent decades modeling the intricacies of the health care ecosystem, which involves making predictions about how new laws will play out based on past experience and economic theory. It is his research that convinced the Obama administration that health care reform could not work without requiring everyone to buy insurance."
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/29/business/jonathan-gruber-health-cares-mr-mandate.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
Lemme guess, Keynesian economic theory.
I'll leave the douchebags expertise at computer modeling for another time ;-)
Try one of these:
12 Skipper Way, Gloucester, MA 01930-1481 (purchased 2008 for $750,000, so this is probably it)
83 Pleasant Street, Lexington, MA 02421-6116
Most recent phone numbers:
781-862-0112 - most likely the current one
978-515-7025
781-863-5529
Thanks, I have a friend up that way.
Perhaps he can drop by and deliver...a single red rose ;-)
Make sure he does a 'double tap': "BANG BANG, on the door baby!"
He must be related to Dr Carl Gruber at the Institute of Going a Bit Red in Helsinki
List of more Criminal lies:
Patriot Act
John Warner Defense Act
NDAA
Housing and Economic Recovery Act of 2008
FISA Act
Anusocracy
You’re so brainwashed!
US Health Care is a racquet
What Gruber described is what insurance companies do all the time: It relies on the majority paying so they can reap the rewards.
Do they have the ability to put a gun to your head and force you to buy it?
Can you register a vehicle without proof of insurance?
Yes. They DO put a gun to your head: the State's gun.
The way its going, I fully expect them to compel us to register & insure our shoes before walking on a public sidewalk at some point ;-)
"What Gruber described is what insurance companies do all the time: It relies on the majority paying so they can reap the rewards."
Wrong. Real insurance protects against possible scenarios. Obamacare makes individuals insure against impossible outcomes as men do not get pregnant and women do not suffer from enlarged prostates.
If you think that the Obamacare model is a good one may I suggest that those who don't drive should be required to buy car insurance, the homeless should be required to buy home owner's insurance and Fransisco Franco should be required to buy life insurance.
You straightened out yet?
Another tribe member, just doing his part to ruin this great nation and steal freedoms.
Why is everyone's panties in a wad over him telling truth about the idiocracy. You all bitch when they lie or when they tell the truth.
Why is everyone's panties in a wad over him telling truth about the idiocracy. You all bitch when they lie or when they tell the truth.
Its the arrogance of this cunt face that makes it despicable. He said that he wanted the law regardless of the truth and could care less about what is right. Its this attitude that will decide peoples healthcare in the future.
Oh you criticized the president and don't want open borders and you're a gun owner? Here's a pill.
Can you say death panels anyone?
Why is everyone so outraged, I find it refreshing that he told the truth.
“Nancy Pelosi is the stupidity of the American voter personified.”
Debbie Wasserman Schultz has that dumb ass beat. Tribe stupid trumps goy stupid any day.
I swear Debbie Wasserman Schulz, looks like a character off've the animated movie Rango! She could be his girlfriend, as she has the reptile look, totally down!
He's a wousie, needs to go out and find a real job.
They're usually not apologizing while they're raping.
As a staunch liberal, I have no idea why there's all this rage at his comments. This man is Jewish. He, by virtue of his faith, is superior to all of us. And therefore, in his eyes, we must look, well, inferior.
I am crying for the way my country is reacting with anger at a man who spoke the truth.
I'm so sorry I insulted you.....
Now shut the fuck up you idiots and eat your peas!
Thank you, Jew. Now go on and enforce your rules on all of us.
They would tell us we just don't realize that we have never had it so good.
Thanks big brother
I was fashionably late to the party yesterday on this POS [following is a late exchange ~ sorry 4 the length]
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0Then I apologize because I thought you were agreeing with what many here thought Kreiger's article implied: that evil Jews were responsible for the ACA. Kreiger is pointing out two examples of arrogant psychopaths and their contempt for the unwashed masses. The first guy, Adelson, is a psychopathic Israeli-firster Jew. The second guy, Gruber, is an arrogant progressive psychopath. He's not even Jewish that I know, but in any case he's hardly the driving force behind Obamacare.
Gruber is only ONE of the many paid shills that the Obama adminstration and progressives hired to write the ACA. They knew exactly how he was writing it and why - that's why they hired him (and probably a couple other dozen other weasels exactly like him that we will never know about). It took a hundred psychopaths to get that bill drafted and passed. They all think like Gruber. Like I said above, he was just another stupid cog in the process. Krieger (and many other articles) call him the 'architect' of Obamacare but he's just a content provider based on his experience with the equally bad Romneycare bill. He did not think up and write the entre ACA by himself.
I disagree that he's guilty of treason. He's an arrogant progressive prick and I don't care for his 'ideas', but he doesn't pass any laws. He should have the freedom to draft whatever stupid-ass bills he wants, just like you and I. Congress, on the other hand, are paid specifically to carefully consider dozens of stupid, lawerly weasel-worded bills all day long. They should have never even considered the crackpot ACA to begin with. On top of that, they're suppose to be smart enough to recognize vague or poorly-written laws. In other words, THEY'RE suppose to be smart enough to filter out crap that Grubers are and always will be paid to write. That's congresses damn job. If we're to the point of having to filter out stupid, nation-destroying ideas before it even reaches them because they might pass them, then we're already screwed. That's my point. Congress is guilty of treason, not Gruber.
And there's nothing wrong with calling out someone for what they are. If you're looking for two evil psychopath Jewish Oligarchs that work against the interests of the US to the point of treason, then it's just not Adelson and Gruber. Try Adelson and Saban.
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Tue, 11/11/2014 - 07:35 | 5435901 OW My Balls Vote up!3
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0"The first guy, Adelson, is a psychopathic Israeli-firster Jew. The second guy, Gruber, is an arrogant progressive psychopath."
Well that's convenient.
Look ~ It's easy to 'cherry pick' on both sides. So, of course, let's just pretend Gruber is non-denominational [which doesn't make any difference anyway ~ yet seems to be what ruffled your feathers here, otherwise, why would you have bothered to author so many words and come up with such clever talking points to muddle the issue].
Romney [a Mormon] ~ Give me a fucking break. Here is a list of Romney campaign contributers [2012]
https://www.opensecrets.org/pres12/contrib.php?id=N00000286
Lots of MORMONS on that list I'm sure.
The reason I bring ROMNEY into this is only because you chose to [because on the surface, it appears that if you make the connection with ROMNEYCARE], then talk about Romney being a Mormon, which, by default, effectively deflects the argument of a Jew being front and center in [yet another], POS policy move hoisted on the American public [further widening the gap between POWER & POVERTY ~ because as we know, CONgress exempted themselves from this legislation to begin with].
The REAL question [as evidenced by the above link], isn't Romney or Obama... It's who or what organized body with a hidden agenda CONTROLS the Obama's & Romneys of the world [from the perspective of banking, MSM, political activism, & jurisprudence ~ which are the pillars of power]. Besides, if you insist on going that route ~ it's rather well known that your "psychopathic Israeli-firster Jew" [Sheldon Adelson] was a huge, no wait, THE BIGGEST BADDEST Romney supporter of them all [which, I'm sure his only motive in doing so was because of his deep concern for the American people].
The answer to that riddle happens to be another one of those 'CONSPIRACY THEORIES that has yet to be disclosed as 'CONSPIRACY FACT'. I have no intention of arguing this point further, so I'll just leave you here to keep on writing and convincing yourself that all is well & there's NOTHING TO SEE here, move on.
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0Jesus... how many IDs do you have, down-arrow queen?
Congress and the administration are entirely responsible for the ACA. I don't give a shit if leprechauns "told them to do it" - they're paid to do work on behalf of U.S. citizens, not leprechauns.
You have to be one of those parents who's kids are little assholes. If anyone points that out (which they probably frequently do) you rant about how it's really TVs fault, or video games, or the schools, or the music, or other kids. I'm sure the Jews are somewhere in there, too. If you could only eliminate all the bad things in the world influencing your kids - the 'real' evil - then they would have turned out just fine.
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Tue, 11/11/2014 - 18:02 | 5438280 new OW My BallsVote up!
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0Congress and the administration are entirely responsible for the ACA. they're paid to do work on behalf of U.S. citizens.
YGBFKMe if you believe that Congress & the Administration make it their purpose to work on behalf of U.S. citizens. Go ask JFK how that one turned out... Not as cozy as Woodrow Wilson I assure you...
I don't give a damn that he said it. I give a damn that he actually did it.
People are NOT stupid. They’re made stupid.
So, Grubber is right on calling the voters stupid, because Anglo-Saxon societies are mostly a product of a culturally-processed faith that has no tradition of serious thought.
Not that Islam is any better. Actually, worse.
No serious thought?
The only serious thought on your mind right now is diverting the thread away from some elitist hack "progressive" (Gruber) who's policy instigation in combination with TOTAL CONTROL OF GOVERNMENT (Pelosi, Reid & Obama) have intentionally put people on MediCaid, made fat cat "health care" executives even fatter and raised my gawddamned premiums 85%!!!
Serious thought my ass...we told everyone of you socialist dickheads what this was beforehand and what was going to happen.
But none of you gave that warning any "serious thought".
Serious thought...fucking retard...there's a serious thought.
+1000
The Zero Care loving LibTard's are in full spin mode over this maggots comments.
Got to pass the Tax, before anyone can read it.
Hope, Hope and Change!!!!!
Ignorance is nothing new… unfortunately
"All the perplexities, confusion and distresses in America arise not from defects in the constitution…, as much from downright ignorance of the nature of coin, credit, and circulation" — John Adams, August 25, 1787.
nmewn
a) Gruber said nothing new for people that read, and for most Hedgers.
b) The outrage of some here proves his point: Most people don't respond to facts, because facts take effort and time to understand.
C) The problem is with the US Health Care. It costs more than extracting all the global oil.
e) nmewn, focus on the big picture
Sorry, I have to go. I have a function to attend.
We talk later.
A function with someone like Gruber perhaps, a little brainstorming session on how the fuck he can take back something he absolutely meant and is true...because it was in an "academic setting" and not meant for us peons?
I am focusing on the BIG PICTURE...they're fucking thieves and with any more "help" from BIG GOVERNMENT we'll be a third world country like Venezuela or wherever the hell you're from.
nmewn
You let your madness get the best of you.
Let me explain the problem with Venezuela.
Nature of debt money [dollar]:
The hypothecation mechanism takes the borrower’s credit and assigns it to the banker. The banker then creates bank money, even though the debtor provided his asset or future labor. Banker’s risk is also low, as the debtor’s assets can be foreclosed.
This banker money splits into two parts at birth: A debt instrument is created i.e. loan documents, mortgage or some sort of debt claim. Simultaneously, the banker creates ‘his new’ money as a output of the loan. This money is called banker.
In the case of Germany circa Versailles treaty, a three way triangular flow was created. The allies had to pay back dollar denominated debts to America for war material borrowed. Germany in turn was put on the debt hook to pay dollars, gold, pounds or Francs to the Allies.
The U.S. didn’t allow much in the way of German goods importation, so Germany could not acquire dollars in trade to pay allies, who wanted dollars to pay their debts. Ultimately, Germany borrowed (more debt) from wall street to pay into the triangular flow. This triangular flow led to the hyperinflation, and ultimately a populist (Hitler) being elected.
Germany issued bonds to create credit money in Wall Street. Credit dollars found their way from Germany and ultimately to the U.S. treasury, as if they were going from one U.S. pocket to the other. However, Germany, England and France all had dollar debts that were outside of their legal system. They had difficulty acquiring the dollars to satisfy the debt instrument outside their country. This ultimately led to WW2.
It should be a cardinal rule in economics; never let your debts point outside of your legal system. How many need to die before this rule is learned? Debt money, even without usury is dangerous if not kept under control.
Lately, the U.S. has used debt instruments to create empire. A foreign country. lets say Bolivia, is hooked on dollar loans. The dollar denominated debt instruments are attached to the whole country and population. The BM [Bank Money] soon leaves the economy as much of it becomes bribe money for leaders, and the rest goes overseas to buy the power plant, or road construction machinery, etc.
The rosy economic picture of the World Bank projections never materializes, hence no dollars are available in local economy to cancel the debt instruments. Bolivia does not have enough dollars and the Bolivian currency comes under pressure.
At that time bear raiders [speculators] borrow BM money into existence and attack, causing the local money to collapse. Predators [US banks] can then enter with dollars and buy up the country, leading to Oligarchy. Or, dollar zone countries (U.S. with its military) may go in and demand their pound of flesh, i.e. resources such as oil extraction, in exchange for the debt relief.
So, usury turbocharges the debt problem, as there is not enough money to pay off the instruments. But, also there is a big problem of path, where the BM [Bank Money] is not available… it has disappeared. -- REN, at Real Currencies
http://realcurrencies.wordpress.com/2013/10/11/the-difference-between-debt-free-money-and-interest-free-credit/#comment-15232
I already know how fractional reserve banking and the Federal Reserve works, this has what to do with Gruber again?
E.I;
The facts have been on the table for years, it's indefensable.
Here is a factual clip to enjoy. Worth the time to watch and also share with all Liberal Technocrats trying to spin Their beloved Zero Care debacle. This is in their own words......Hope, Hope and Change!!!!
Enjoy:
The Bambozal Care Roll-Out
http://youtu.be/6C5Kv5wLS54
“If I had been downright honest with myself… I would have seen very plainly… who was to be the absolute dictator” – Moby Dick
Obamacare is an abomination. It’s about half trillion handout to health-insurances that still deny care to too many Americans, including sick children.
So, how could we possible let this happen?
And here’s the stupidity of the average person because they have the ability to know the problem, but, they don’t have the ability to understand the problem.
But why?
Because the problem lies on religion (naiveté), education (indoctrination), and propaganda (massmedia bread and Circuses).
America society need less education in economics and politics and more education on humanities.
American society need less nonsensical religion statements, and more science and history.
America massmedia should stop throwing garbage and irrelevant jargon-loaded argument at us, and focus on philosophy and literature.
So now, some of us wonder why we live in such misinformed and mediocre society.
Interacting with people constantly makes me ask what is going on in their heads? Usually the thought revolves 'Surely they can't be that simple and shallow?'
Unfortunately it is almost always true, they are superficial. For the ones that aren't, I try to encourage some sort of friendship.
Fundamentally, with the simple and shallow, anything intelligent, real, and based on facts are beyond them, so I just nod, say uh-huh, and wait for the opportunity to politely exit the conversation….
while in my mind wondering how they remember to breathe” – Zadoc, at Zero Hedge
Well…. Wonder NO more!
Who do you suggest was wondering on the outright lie of diversion tactics by the Liberal Technocrats? Oh please name one, just 1 Republican Congressman who voted for this piece of shit bill? The list of votes all sits squarely on the Liberl Technocrats. They own this pile of shit rambled through like a pack of cockroaches.
The Messiah has no clothes on, the so called stupid American voter didn't have a voice in passing this Zero Care Tax, before they could read it.
Spinning from the facts isn't working for the LibTard's.
But they still have, Hope, Hope and Change!!!!!
Spin baby Spin......
Obola virus victim in 3...2...1
Sorry, I missed his "apology".... Stupid twat.....
The POS is right (a scumbag, but right). All of the FSA and thier ilk are dumber than a bag of rocks.
He was right! Voting? Really? Who still does that?
http://2012patriot.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/sheeple-1b.jpg
He is really sorry now since he may lose his job. Usually he is a supercilious idiot
He is a tenured professor. I'm self employed. MIT pays for his health care. My insurance policy for just myself is now $680/month. The wife and one kid are on another policy: now 850/ month.
He will have his job next semester. I will be fighting trying to get my business going next semester. No complaints, but he will be sleeping better.
Holy Smokes....If you saved your healthcare premiums, after a few years you could buy your very own hospital.
In all honesty, after this fucktwit made those comments, if I were him, would be sleeping with one eye open.
You have a clear conscience, but this dick? Not so much
Janet Yellen told you what to do. just get some assets. Jeez.
...Promotion to Secretary of State next week.
I think this is what they call being vetted for a higher position. The only way tehy can measure your "teflon" anti shit stickability.
What a D Bag.
Stupidity is terminal!!
DaddyO
He should be forced to participate in the appropriate level of care afforded the plebes.
Fucker.
I don't regret perpetrating a jew agenda... I only regret that people are starting to see right through me & putting a scumbag label on me while I laugh at them behind their backs or when the cameras aren't rolling.
I don't get it ... why does he have to apologize for saying American voters are stupid ?
Because that's what sociopaths know they are supposed to say when they get caught?
who said this guy apologized?
So I guess he is going to cover the 20% premium increase in my insurance for 2015 that I received in the mail yesterday?
Did you folks notice that the premium increases came in the mail just after Election Day?
purely coincidental ! !
Got mine for my group policy for my employees...it went up 41% which I currently pay 100%....for how much longer? This is beyond stupid. I've spoken to quite a few doctors lately, one yesterday has been absorbed by a larger group because HE couldn't afford the insurance on HIS employees. Uniformly they all tell me WE ARE FUCKED....all of us.
Hope, Hope and Change!!!!!!
I had a day dream, a dream of a Liberal Technocrat chanting, Hope!, Hope and Change......I would love to take a crow hop and knock the fucker out.
If you read this Gruber....Fuck Off!
his punishment should be he has to go on obamacare
This country is so fked.
I refuse to talk, do business with, or associate myself with anyone with the standard democratic viewpoints. They are dead to me.
The Republicans are no better. We have a true one-party system.
six one, half dozen thuther...lie to me, but don' you leave...
Republicans tell us what we know to be true but always fail to follow through to make it happen. Fucking lying hypocrites.
Democrats tell us shit that would never work on the best of days but they are beautiful wonderful lies but when they try to implement the policies that would give their desired effect it threatens our lives and livelyhood. Fucking liars and hypocrites.
Republican piss us off because their promises would actually work but they fail to ever implement them and we pray the democrats lies will come true but are scared shitless they will actually try.
Two kinds of liars with the same result
What and inexcusable lying puppet of the American establisment.
Fuck you Gruber! You only "regret" that your comments were exposed to a wider audience than your fellow shit-head "academics". Why the American public continues to put up with this is beyond my understanding!
What can one do exactly? I don't want to put with it anymore than you do. Soap box is ignored. Voting box is fixed. Jury box is empty. There is another box but no one will consider its use.
- Guy calls American Public "Stupid"
- Won't accept the fact he said it
- Lie: use a lot of baffle them with BS on his answer
- Reality: He lied about what he said that could get him in trouble
- He only felt safe around his cronies to express his true intentions
- THe good ol boys network covering each others buttts.
- American People have been had once again....
It's much more nuanced. What he meant to say was "there's nothing the American people can do about it. Go fuck yourself."
Oh and Ronan Farrow is a fucking creep. Watch the show on mute sometime. If they ever remake a Ray Liotta movie, Ronan should be cast in the Liotta role.
"Ronan Farrow"...personally i wouldn't know this guy if he walked into my house right now & kicked me in the balls...but with a name like "Ronan.
Farrow." , i mean, that name just screams DICKHEAD , doesn't it ? ? !
ronan, d'libarian...
Obozo's legacy.
Bulllllll Shhhhiiiiitttttttt..... This guy doesn't regret a single word.
wow, that guy is way smarter than normal people. /s
Farrow then argued on Gruber’s behalf that Gruber’s argument was more “nuanced” than people can even appreciate.
Saying that they were more "nuanced" than people can appreciate is basically saying "people you are too stupid to understand what he said".
And he didn't actually take anything back. He just said the comments were "inappropriate", not inaccurate. And that he regretted making them.
I don't doubt that he does regret making the comments. I also don't doubt that he absolutely did and still does believe that everything he said is absolutely true.
look like d'Hitler miss one...
Americans are stupid if they keep on buying these genuine "apologies"...
What are " GALLOWS" for ? does any american know ????
Humor ??
fo' to roll, like d'geeateens...d'reason fo' what d'wheel wud n'vented...
Obamacare Architect Apologizes For Calling Americans "Stupid"
Yes, sorry, for getting caught and that's all!
He's right, Americans are stupid, they're also fat, arrogant, lazy, myopic, self centered, and self absorbed.
If he had any balls he would have just laughed it off, for tomorrows crisis will invariably be bigger.
FUCK OFF AND DIE THE MOST PAINFUL WAY GRUBER.
Dear Mr. Gruber, I apologize for telling you to fuck off.
It's a tax. You stupid, stupid motherfuckers.
You gotta wonder what kinda shit they have on Roberts.
Too late...
Well what did you expect:) It's all about context, great video helps you maybe see the dupes before they arrive. #1 video at the Killer algorithms page.
http://www.ducknet.net/attack-of-the-killer-algorithms/
Don't believe everything you read on the web. Here's a nice site called Healthgrades that tries to help consumers find doctors, problem with the site is that they don't care what they have up there, so you'll find dead doctors listed still seeing patients and this one particular hospital that was closed by the feds for using fake spinal implant screws, who's CEO is waiting sentencing and of course is a millionaire. The former CEO also bribed a CA state senator who's also waiting his day in court as the CEO rolled on him. Besides all of this the old Healthgrades site shows the facility open for business, with a full selection of doctors who are on staff there as well as the rating of the hospital.
What makes this so bad is that Heatlhgrades sells these ratings and hospitals use them as brag sheets and put out press releases about them. This site is so bad and they just want ad revenue. I have been on this case for 4 years and even the AMA interviewed me about it a few years ago when I found my former doctor who had been dead for 8 years still working in the afterlife and seeing new patients!
http://ducknetweb.blogspot.com/2014/11/why-does-hospital-that-was-closed-by.html
This is some of the reality that's coming out of Obamacare too, and for 4 years, this madness has continued and there was talk a couple months ago about Heatlhgrades having an IPO, so see what I mean, any old stuff flies sadly and they don't care. All those who were looking to get some fake spinal screws in their backs with a good discount are out of luck now:) This is as bad as it gets and there's more like this hospital on Healthgrades too.
Does HHS or CMS care that this nonsense goes on, nope and the duping of America sadly continues.
My policy for 2 increased 20% in September. Doubled since Obummercare passed. This is no longer sustainable. I cut off my direct draft payment. I now run behind on policy premiums on purpose.
This shit won't last much longer. The IRS will need more than shotguns.
Someone has to pay for health insurance for all the new citizens (and Democratic voters) that Obama is about to create by executive order. You should be grateful to have been selected for that honor.
You got it. Wealth redistribution, but not to help the poor but to destroy the middle class. Just fucking read what Obama his self has written and said in his past. nothing different than any other black nationalist Marxist has said.
arby63, you're correct. This cocksucker will need more bodyguards than he can afford.
He's wearing the "Scarlet Letter" now, or should I just call it a Bulls-eye?
Jonathan Gruber: Too little, too late. The absolute disdain that you have for the Amerikan sheeple was showing, and you can't take that back. In fact, I'm sure that you revel in your "vast superiority" to the plebes. Shameless son of a bitch.
What a poltroon.
He should come out fighting.
His premise is
You are too dumb to know what is good for you or to understand universal healthcare so you shouldn't get a vote on it. Your representatives are too dumb to know what is best for them or for you so they shouldn't be allowed to vote either. Since I can't get round the voting thing we've decided to do a "denial of service" operation, overwhelming your representatives with so many pages of crap that they'll give in and just do what we tell them.
Basically.
Does "sorry" cover it? Or should something be done to change the representation?
Something to ponder: Was he lying about his opinion about the American people or is he lying now?
Tick, tock...
An American, not US subject.
Hint: "They lie all they time. Always."
He is a fucking liar who will say ANYTHING to get his way. Do we need to keep score?
How convenient to run off to the Obama network so you can be inviewed by a clown.
The word inappopriate means impolite. So yes he believes Americans are stupid and it was implite for him to say so on video tape where thousands of viewer can see just how stupid he actual is.
I think the key is that he is admitting to using the stupidity of the American voter to their (liberals) advantage. It is probably pretty hard to argue that the average American voter isn't disengaged and, quite frankly, has no ethical justification for voting without first being involved and informed. People are lazy. To that extent, this jackass is probably correct, more or less, in calling people stupid. That isn't the issue. It's that he is taking advantage of the stupid people and seems to enjoy it.
Real revolution is the only answer. The screws have been tightened. One can hardly breathe. Each day is a struggle. Few options to retreat. Can't disappear.
I am ready to fight.
Once an Ivy League and MIT academic sack of sh*t, always a sack of sh*t professor. Fire the mother and put him in the economist UF*ck You unemployment figures. Don't give Ivy League schools and MIT snobs another dime.
He spent a lot of money to be told that he is smarter than everyone else as long as he repeats everything they say. People will say and do anything to be part of that club. Evidently I just wasn't "teachable".
but american people ARE stupid.
Corporate-owned media and Jewish owned Hollywood has led Americans to the edge of the precipice.
"Only when they hear the screams and smell the blood will they realize that they have been lead to slaughter" -Rick Garber
So this guy lied and lied and lied and conspired with the people inside the democratic party and the white house to lie and do the same. As an architect of obamacare he cannot escape this fradulent strategy of getting this bill passed. So according to the Democrooks it is ok to lie and misrepresent to pass a law.. New Congress please investigate and send them to jail. Politicians lie, people die
Haven't you heard? According to satanic, Babylonian talmudic law, it is lawful to lie to, cheat, defraud, steal from, and kill the goyim.
Fuck all of these Satan-worshipping bastards.
I have good news! I've read the Book! The end had been written from the beginning! The evil, satanic, Babylonian Talmudic 'Zionist' bastards WILL LOSE!
Place your trust in the Firstborn from Creation.
Certainly not all Americans are "stupid." This dickweed was refering to the liberals' base of suport amongst the voting public. The people in that voting block are stupid and are kept that way for a reason.
People are not so stupid is to believe the outright lies, they are just stupid enough to believe that if they go along with them their situations will improve. We all liked being lied to until such time as the piper is paid. It is a great compliment to be lied to. They wouldn't go to so much trouble for just anyone. The truth is so much more rewarding...and brutal. This guy just got lazy and told the truth for once. For that, he is sorry.
actually he is saying the democrats are stupid people because they believe in the lie and vote for it.. So the smart one are the republicans while all democrats politicians who voted yes are all stupid and serial lair
You have explained why there will be little coverage of his confession.
It confirms that all of the major media "journalists" are simply stupid Democrat shills. Cannot let the Democrat faithful hear themselves being so well characterized.
I'd rather waterboard this fag than not have the right to waterboard this fag. OMFG I'm slipping! I've forgot what a republic is, and what its roots were. Without Christians, we'd all still be negotiating with swords! OMFG My delusion is becoming the only reality that I know! WE HAVE ASSUMED CONTROL. WE HAVE ASSUMED CONTROL.
WE HAVE ASSUMED CONTROL.
wasn't it the stupidy of congress who didn't even read the bill beofre passing it?
The legislation passed without one Republican vote.
The stupidity of Congress, in this case, resolves into stupidity of 100% of Democrats.
Not reading it was supposedly part of the magical charm of the legislation. Pass it quickly so we can then read it.
What I really want to see is the Krugmeister fess up that he was fooled by a clown like this one. The little toad Ezra Klein and his followers on the Journolist gtoup need to tell us how much they enjoyed the White House visits that allowed the butt pirates like Gruber to work them over really good. I wonder if they will still claim that the fudge was excellent?
JONATHAN GRUBER
MIT Department of Economics
50 Memorial Drive, E52-355
Cambridge, MA 02142-1347
Phone: 617-253-8892
Fax: 617-253-1330
E-Mail: gruberj@mit.edu
Does Gruber have citizenship in another country, other than USA? That is the question I would ask him!
You know what? Fuck you. I'll take an American any day over what we have today. At least when you speak with representatives who are Americans, they are polite and listen to what we have to say. Americans CARE goddam it. They do not deserve what is being done to them. The world has been jealous of Americans for being the rich kid on the block for a century. This coup is not hard to see but if this asshole is an American, I hope he enjoys slavery because he will be right there with them, sending his own people into a state of despair. SO FUCK YOU ASSHOLE . I hope someone kicks your ass because as a person who lives quite comfortably thanks to American's dedication to creation of an infrastructure and sound country, you deserve it.
The unfairness of what is happenign is mind blowing. Campaign is in place to turn the world against Americans clearly. We know what is going on, and it is not the Americans. Fucker.
It's alla march to world government. They need America weak and on par with the other lowly subjects. Give it time, the curtain will be pealed back and the true state of things will be revealed. Until then you know what to do and you know what to get for protection.
Bunnyswanson - I agree 100% with your sentiment. We will get our Republiv back but some nasty shit has to happen first. Right now, love your neighbor as yourself.
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Apparently in addition to this clip, other things he said are being used as evidence in the Supreme Court challenge to Obamacare, so the irony of it is what he has said may indeed be the undoing of a big chunk of the law (related to state subsidies.)
Thats right, its not calling Americans stupid thats a crime...its the deceit & deception they used to pass a FEDERAL law.
We'll even leave aside the open bribery (Cornhusker KickBack) and the hollowing out of an unrelated pending spending bill used as the vehicle for it, its the total disdain of us, the people, the elitist arrogance and yes...the criminality...that was done.
Two billion dollars now for a fucking $10,000 website and all they have to show for it is they've gone from 67 screens of pure unsecured data mining to 16.
Graft & corruption.
NMewn - Yep. It's looting before the big reset. Looting the treasury is always the last act of a collapsing government. Too many people on the dole and not enough producers to sustain the promises made.
"This suckers going down!" - GW Bush
Why do you think GW Bush bought a couple hundred acre ranch in Paraguay, next to a military base and airfielfd?
As for me I am staying in new Rome like Peter did in the old. Crucify me upside down also please.
He should knock on every door in the USA and personally apologize.
He should then be tried as a grifter and put in stocks like they did in the 18th and 19th centuries.
Would it be karma if some deranged misguided confused asshole walked up to this hump on the sidewalk and cut his head clean off?
Cover-Your-Ass-O'rama - 'cause since the Amerikan Sheeple are so fucking stupid they just might buy the apology schtick. Another elite asshat.
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When people are lying during interviews (or anywhere really) they blink more. Look at this fucker's blinking rate today when he gets going with the BS answers. It's practically like windshield wipers.
He's a lying son of obama
I bet his world was turned totally upside down in the last 24 hours. He's shitting himself, and now comes on the safe commie propaganda network for a half hearted apology. This Ivy league dork needs to be hauled up in front of congress to explain himself, and then maybe in front of a grand jury.
gruber deserves a good old fashion beat down. seriously.
he deserves to be beat within an inch of his life and left for dead in the middle of detroit