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US, China Hope To Avert "Military Confrontation"
While Putin was busy laying the groundwork for another major commodity gas pipeline expansion project, one that would make China the largest natural gas client of Gazprom, surpassing Europe and fully concluding Russia's pivot from west to east, US president Obama had slightly less lofty ambitions out of the annual APEC summit in Beijing: coordinating with China's leader Xi Jinping on how to best avoid war, or as the WSJ phrased it "military confrontations." So in order to prevent military conflict in the coming years, China and the US have penned two deals.
As the WSJ reports, "one of the military agreements covers a mechanism for notifying each other of major activities, such as military exercises, and the other sets rules of behavior for encounters at sea and in the air, according to people familiar with the negotiations."
So an early warning system: which is useful considering China's recent announcement of an Air Defense Identification Zone (ADIZ) erected over the East China Sea, and which clearly targeted Japan in the aftermath of the Senkaku island land-grab escalation, especially since a year ago China declared it is "Willing To Engage In A Protracted Confrontation" With Japan As "Prime Target." And since it is unlikely that China will be conducting any major military exercises off the coast of California any time soon (or so one hopes), this is basically yet another veiled threat to the US that any developments in what China clearly has defined as its national interest area, even if it overlaps with that of America's prime ally Japan, will be frowned upon.
What is left unsaid is what happens if the US does conduct military drills in the region without a prior warning, and whether this "arrangement" may have made actual military confrontation more likely.
This happens a day after Obama announced that the two governments had resolved lingering differences on a deal to drop tariffs on semiconductors and other information-technology products, which backers say could cover $1 trillion in trade. Once again, what was unsaid is how the US will assure China that any future trade will be NSA-inside free. Recall what happened to CSCO earnings almost exactly one year ago in the aftermath of the Snowden revelations, all thanks to a complete collapse in Chinese orders.
The other agreement that will supposedly prevent war between the US and China is climate change, as well as business visas.
Climate change is another area the two leaders are expected to reach agreement on Wednesday. And Monday, each side announced new, longer-term visas for business and education to facilitate travel and commerce.
The story of how the marginalized "leader of the free world" ended up here is well known.
According to the WSJ, "Relations have foundered over the past year on cyberspying, democracy demonstrations in the Chinese territory of Hong Kong and China’s rough-elbowed approach to territorial disputes with Japan and the Philippines, both U.S. allies. Discord between Messrs. Xi and Obama was also apparent at the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation summit, during which they championed rival free-trade pacts."
What really is happening is the US is rapidly losing its superpower status, with first China, then Russia, the other BRIC nations, unafraid and willing to confront DC, and since retaliatory "costs" end up hurting US allies more than the adversary, it creates a closed loop where the US loses incremental leverage and clout with every passing day, even as former Cold War, and not only, foes become further emboldened.
Of course, this won't be the first time the two leaders have tried to mend relations:
But both men appear eager to recalibrate the relationship that has largely failed to match the promise of their first summit 16 months ago at the Sunnylands estate in California, when they tried to establish a personal rapport with an informal shirt-sleeves meeting.
Ah yes, who can forget the "straight-to-teleprompter" president getting to work and rolling up his sleeves. Alas, this attempt to mend relations too will fail, as always happens when two superpowers, one ascendent and one declining, are about to see their relative power status intersect.
So instead, the White House is hoping that by openly admitting military conflict is possible it will stave off the inevitable.
White House officials declined to provide details of the military agreements to be discussed Wednesday. Ben Rhodes, a deputy national security adviser, said the two sides had been discussing ways to address instances where U.S. and Chinese military assets “came a little too close for comfort.”
“It’s incredibly important that we avoid inadvertent escalation and that we don’t find ourselves again having an accidental circumstance lead into something that could precipitate a conflict,” he said.
China’s defense ministry didn't respond directly when asked for details about the two agreements. Its press office said that the mechanism for notification of military activities and the rules of behavior would have “important effects and significance for promoting China-U.S. strategic trust and building a new type of military relationship.”
What China means is that in the future, any time US aircraft carriers are located in the East China Sea, whether it is en route to Japan or checking up on Taiwan, they better have permission.
As for whether and how long the "military confrontation" between the US and China has been delayed, there is substantial time left under Obama's reign for this hypothesis to be thoroughly tested.
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well shit...
WWIII incoming
And somehow the title and the article makes it look like another WIN for Obola and the USA in political relations....keep patting your own back Barry.
But at least Xi smiled when Obola approached him...unlike:
http://news.yahoo.com/video/frosty-greeting-between-xi-abe-070758591.html
I bet part of the deal are consessions to allow more maniuplation to lower the gold price so china can buy more.
seeing as China and india are most of the earths population.
When on earth do as the earthlings do, time to buy gold
http://www.bgasc.com/category/gold-bars-by-weight
great news! lets hope the cool heads prevail and none falls victim of those pictures ZH is picking on to stir up the waters so to speak
"accidental circumstance" my ass
BFD
Japan wants China to sign a peace treaty as well
Not worth the rice paper they are written on
Many have been pointing this out for a while now. Demographics always wins eventually. If two-thirds of the earth's population stop using one flavor of fiat, there most certainly will be consequences.
Well, that picture of Obama in the middle of the first wives club leaves no doubt as to who's pitchin' and who's catchin'.
It is already here, but it is mainly a financial/economical war.
What is with the bottom picture. It looks like the Chinese guys is saying:
"Ok you stand here dummmass."
How could there be a dumber bunch of clueless retards in leadership positions around the world. All these heads of state wearing Mao suits & sucking up to the Chinese is disgusting. I would fire anyone on my staff who even suggested that I put on one of these outfits and be struted around on stage.
Figureheads are NOT leaders. Even Putin answers to someone.
Did I say they were leaders?
Well it looks like all the USA has to offer at APEC is a big gun, NSA polluted tech knowone wants and maybe some GMO crops.
This deal sounds like a cop that keeps walking towards you saying "stop resisting, stop threatening me, stop or I will shoot!"
+3 for Big Guns, NSA-polluted tech, GMO crops. That pretty much sums up America's exports.
That, plus Debtware: Bonds, Dollars, MBS. Ju know 'Merica, you're not what you used to be, and haven't for a long time.
Yes, and the trade deal that will be worth so much in high tech trade for the U.S. needs to be closely examined and questioned. I bet we gave away the house to seal the deal. Time will tell, but it is America's leaders who are desparate for deals.
Never a good negotiating position.
The chinese as a rule expect you to give everything away to get a deal with them.
The fat man was just ranting and raving about this last night.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbkkflqKPZY
Optics, nothing more.
So what's with the garb? No others displaying such deference.
Forward...
Great leap forward.
Any chance Obola could end up looking any stupider? Yeah, I thought so
Hopium....what great fantasies are made up of.
http://olduvai.ca
Great - - moar HOPE...
I don't even know where to begin with our Dear Leader - just look at his left hand - what a limp wrist.
NoVa
I just saw the pciture at the bottom of article - .
What a pathetic picture - I thnk the chinese guy is telling Oblamo:
" Wang! I told you to finish cleaning the table, now chiop chop - there are important people in this room!
Something that may have been missed about those uniforms; they are making any Westerners who attend their conference conform to their culture.
No suits and ties or dresses or Western attire. You think Nixon or Reagan, or even Carter or LBJ would have put on those things? Clinton would have as long as he got a blowjob from Mai Ping and cracked a joke about being back in the '60's at the press conference.
Clinton was the first Chinese president... ?
Clinton and Bush were the new Polo brothers who made China US Oligarchy factory and US middle class redundent.
Some awesome gamechanger all in the space of 20 years! 1992-2014.
They should raise a statue to both of them Place Tiananmen.
The silk route reopened and gas to china established from Siberia and maybe now coming from Turkmenistan and Iran.
Nixxon went to China. Had he not it could still be the worlds rice bowl.
Clinton was the first Chinese president... ?
Maybe you should check these out:
https://www.google.com/search?q=George+Bush+chinese+photos&client=firefo...
It's just a photo op. Hosting nations always do this at international events, and there is nothing new about it.
Now I understand why these uniforms look like Starfleet uniforms, and Obama looks like a Romulan diplomat:
In the Future... CHINA will dominate Earth's Federation. RT: "Go forth and prosper: APEC leaders in China don Star Trek-style jackets". http://rt.com/news/204015-putin-summit-startrek-clothes/
p.s. According to another Cold Warm warrior -- Gorbchev: "Europe may become irrelevant due to short-sighted policies" http://rt.com/news/203475-gorbachev-speech-berlin-wall/
It's going to be so funny when American Junior High & High Schoolers are forced to take 6 years of Mandarin like the Chinese students who now take English. LOL....wow, will US students be in for a surprise. Or worse, US High School Students would have to take the Chinese College Entrance exam instead of the SAT. lol.....that would be SOOOO FUNNY. My guess, 3% of our "top 10%'ers" would make their top 20%....and I'm not dissing our kids. The de-petrodollarification of the US means the US will not get "stuff" handed to them on a silver platter (eventually) and most of the last two generations...perhaps three, are not ready to compete on the global stage. And anti-globalization, protectionism will not save us.
The others are wearing suits.
Is it true that Barack Obama in Chinese is Hu Flung Poo?
Are those mushroom clouds in the background behind them?
Penny for your thoughts Barry!
The door is that way, Missuh President.
No doubt the American government thinks only that the laws a rules apply to the Chinese. It will be intersting to see who breaks this agreement first.
Can someone clarify whose military has been playing on whose front porch these past few years? And more importantly what the fuck for?
China builds the military software how the hell you gonna go to war when they know all your moves???
Obama have finally found his strategy : Being the third wheel
The Nobel Prize Winner has his hands full with Putin now. He never met a war that he did not like - especially with poor, ill-equipped peasants
Meanwhile, the Nobel Prize Winner will keep droning women and children and wedding parties in impoverished lands.
Let's see...the U.S. continuing to sell out it's productive capacity and population for the sake of the bank/insurance/corporate parasites while keeping the Chinese populace (slaves) so busy building us plastic crap and iDistractions they won't revolt?
Nailed it.
Welcome to the Machine
Smile. Make an agreement with the liar. Intend as he intends.
I sure like the cut of Obozo's trousers. Are they by Fubu? I bet you could see his boxers if he wasn't wearing that dress.
/sarc
America (A government and people who have been serving as the earth's police and at perpetual war for 30+ years) are "hoping to avoid a confrontation".....?
LMFAO, who writes this stuff? Just kidding, we all know it's a jewish banker...
If so, then why has America vowed to pivot it's Naval, Air and Marine forces east to Asia? To all the old imperial bases left after the defeat of Japan in the great Pacific war? To look at Pentagon plans, they see the US basing their navy and airforces right up on China's bordes. They say they are doing it to counter growing CHinese influence in the region. So, with that mcuh a proven fact, How in fuck does Obama claim he seeks to avoid conflict? When Obama's whole presidency and national security policy was and is based on an Anti Chinese military build up in the West Pacific? Seems like saying Hitler wanted to avoid conflict with Poland in late August 1939, while pouring it's military to the border regions of Poland.
The message is that the only way for the Chinese to avoid conflict is to accomodate US hegemony in the region.
If you think that's something else than a direct threat to Chinese interests, you are taking these guys way to serious(ly).
At some point, China could "open its borders to the US", and let out about 100,000,000 Chinese to ferry and march into the US.
Via the Alaska and BC. Now THAT's what I call "Boots on the ground". I wouldn't worry about a Russian invasion. I'd worry about a Chinese invasion -- were they to be so inclined. Lucky for us, their only form of "invasion" will be via Commerce -- by buying up land and resources. Buying up companies costs a lot more than stealing its tech and IP. Anything we can make, they can make faster and cheaper.
How's that for a kick in the Capitalist teeth: Getting outperformed by the ex-Commies. The US had better learn to "play nice", as it does not have the money or bodies to "Carry a big stick" in perpetuity. We've seen Peak US Imperialism. After this, it's all downhill. Plan and prepare accordingly.
Obama will be sure to take us to war with China.
Ah nothing to see here. The NWO doesn't abide by contract law. Who cares what they sign.
Obama to Chinese President: I Want to 'Take the Relationship To a New Level'
Today is Obama's pussy
Yesterday was Putin's cock and balls
Together they make the seal of Solomon and birth one hideous global satanic baby
Barry's gotta start wearing 2 pairs of underwear and bicycle clips as he's full of shit.
Listen.
Submit USSA! Now you see it. "WHO" owns you and your future. You're fucked.
There is only one way out. Join ISIL.
The U.S. and China are NOT enemies are you crazy? Look at the data....more every day
http://newworldorderg20.wordpress.com/2014/11/08/u-s-oil-and-gas-companies-eager-to-expand-in-china-at-oilcomm-2014/
http://newworldorderg20.wordpress.com/2014/11/05/china-not-an-enemy-chinas-richest-billionaires-are-buying-american/
http://newworldorderg20.wordpress.com/2014/10/27/u-s-navy-practicing-war-games-with-china-chinas-pla-navy-is-still-no-match-for-the-us-navy/
http://newworldorderg20.wordpress.com/2014/10/27/china-to-pitch-high-speed-trains-to-california/
http://newworldorderg20.wordpress.com/2014/11/03/ihg-hilton-partners-in-china-for-400-hotels-2/
http://henrymakow.com/2014/11/Globalist-Harmony.html
@ alrightee then
Yeah China gots ta get rid of them ticking time bomb stinky Tbillets some how . .
What part of "bread and circuses" don't you understand?
The Bank of China has a direct line to the U.S. treasury. Tricky Dick made a "deal" in the 70's with the Chinese oligarchs. A world where everyone works for Chinese wages has been the plan all along.
. . but 4 decades on the old oligarchs have been hung!
Bullshit. Their children are doing better than ever. I don't think you understand how oligarchy works.
In a related subject, no one mentions that the central Bank of Russia is not state controlled, but an IMF brunch. As long CBR is not state owned, Putin is just in the same league with Obama and co.
Colorado cops show off cannabis harassment tactics for CNBC crew, give tickets for cigarettes
1) Remember your oaths. The Constitution is the "Law of the Land" and we expect YOU to follow it: "It's the law."
2) Familiarize yourself with the definition and law concerning treason in Article 3, Section 3 of the Constitution. I am Witness One.
3) Principle IV of the Nuremberg principles, what the Nazis were judged by, states that "Following orders" is not a valid defense, and neither is "It's the law."
You've been warned.
We, the American people, are watching, and you and your family live amongst us. An American, not US subject. "The only good thing about the gun and badge thugs is that their daily crimes have, and are, awaking so many."
"US, China Hope To Avert "Military Confrontation"
The victor has already been decided:
http://www.treasury.gov/ticdata/Publish/mfh.txt
An American, not US subject.
"Brother, can you spare a dime so we can bomb you?"
I've always wondered how one bankrupt country (Japan) can keep getting such a generous line of credit...
/s
Obama is a great man and this trip has cemented his legacy, as he had hoped it would. 100 years from now he will always be remembered as the president who extended the length of a Chinese visa.
Me and the boys at the park came up with a solution. Give the Chinese an ultimatum. Stop buying gas and oil from Russia or we'll stop buying those yellow plastic ducks and all that other crap BOOM! Problem solved
Stop buying cheap plastic ducks and they'll stop buying your cheap paper bonds. How's that for an ultimatum.
"Or we'll stop buying all that stuff that stocks Walmart, Target, Kmart, Kohl's, Harbor Freight, Home Depot, Hobby Lobby, GameStop, Sam's, Costco, Loew's, PaylessShoes, etc. and the 'nigger gets it'."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjPBp6DOwgU
An American, not US subject.
Wu would be sooooo proud that his people finally have the great black "sweargen" over a barrel
Looks as though Obama is really pissed at being put in the wives section during the official photo shoot..................but I didn't think it would lead to war!!!! :-0
what fools these americans are.
the best that pansy can do is talk about military confrontation.
the bully on the block looking for someone to impress.
so pitiful, so laughable. so childish.
It's been a while since I've heard the phrase "outcompete" being said or even implied when discussing international matters. We don't compete anymore. We just blow shit up. Like George Carlin said: "What? They've got bigger dicks? Bomb them!"
And now for something completely different .
Some new owners are coming in .
Are you ready for an inventory of assets ?
See
https://www.academia.edu/9247204/Be_Your_Own_Owner
or
http://andreswhy.blogspot.com/2014/11/be-your-own-owner.html
He's too narcissistic for that
http://i.imgur.com/bi8A8hq.png
your avatar : destry rides again. No wonder he could draw so fast.
The puppet in his commie suit, perfect training!
“As goes GM, so goes America.” Remember that prideful statement of a few years ago? General Motors is doing quite well in Communist China’s slave labor work force; they even have Communist board members. The GM moving expenses and debt were left behind for the American taxpayer in the form of Government Motors.
Today “As goes Communist China, so goes General Motors.”
The “American” global Empire power elites have moved their manufacturing and technology to Communist China which resulted in the enormous industrial growth within China. The allegiance of the elite corporations is to China, not to the USA.
Scary isn’t it: Fascist Washington global Empire aligned with Communist China behind the secret curtain. I wonder what part of the USA Obama gave away this time?
China has no desire to 'fight' a country with which it has an ENORMOUS trade surplus -- as long as that country minds its own business and keeps printing fiat...
Funny headline.
Reads like engagements are ready to go!!
CIA needs to blow a fe things up first - then the drones come in for surveillance of the hornet's nest that just got whacked.
Obozo gets no respect, I tell ya.
They told him to stand with the girls.
How tolerant are the Chinese with homo's?
He should have brought his mother-in-law again!
LOL!
these mother fuckers couldnt get a war going now to save their asses, although they try every other day. just keep the plebs in fear and we can rape them some moar.
i don't see it happening, far too many plebs have awoken and will not be going to any wars, for the rothschilds nor the bush fagots nor for the communist chinese ass holes. here's a fucking clue you oligarch fuck tards, we dont fucking care anylonger about you or your fucking ass wiping fed currency.
I wonder what ever happened to the meme that the Japanese were going to buy up all of america? How did that work out for Japan?
Deflation which is exactly what will happen to the Chicoms... Fucking etatists will never learn. IOW China will not be going to a gold standard ever.
While contemporary history is being written by Putin and Xi Jinping in Peking and in Iran/Ukraine, a page of US shenanigans is exposed in this reminiscence concerning a US State department official now being investigated by the FBI as an active lobbyist for Pakistan.
Little Robin and the Talibans, read this from the Indian perspective :
http://blogs.rediff.com/mkbhadrakumar/2014/11/07/fbi-swoops-down-on-an-a...
How the US spread the Taliban disease to the Ferghana valley where its ready to explode in Jihadist rage.
You didn't see Putin wearing that panzy outfit, did you?
You didn't see Putin wearing that panzy outfit, did you?
Yes, yes I did. He is very very short so he was put up front so I can't imagine why you couldn't see it there Chuckles. Obumbles was rightly placed off to one side and that is enough of an insult to America without you getting Putin all over your chin for the world to see...
http://www.usatoday.com/story/theoval/2014/11/10/obama-vladimir-putin-russia-china/18796835/
Who are they gonna get to fight another FAKE WAR ! NOBODY.... thats who
Fuck you Obama ... and Fuck you Ping Ping
trust ObamaPutinJinping they have our interest at heart and would never risk your life by going to WAR
sarc