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Chairman Of Joint Chiefs Tells Congress Considering Boots-On-The-Ground In Iraq
Despite President Obama's "promise" that there would be no combat troop boots-on-the-ground in the fight against ISIS in Iraq (and his doubling of 'military advisor' troop levels last week), The Guardian reports that General Martin Dempsey, the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, indicated to the House of Representatives armed services committee that the strength of ISIS relative to the Iraqi army may be such that he would recommend abandoning Obama’s oft-repeated pledge against returning US ground troops to combat in Iraq. Dempsey added, rather uncomfortably, that "we're going to need about 80,000 competent Iraqi security forces to recapture territory lost, and eventually the city of Mosul, to restore the border." The irony of this is that the 'not-dead' leader of ISIS al-Baghdadi spoke today and exclaimed that the US will be soon compelled to come on the ground to fight his group.
General Martin Dempsey, the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, indicated to the House of Representatives armed services committee that the strength of Isis relative to the Iraqi army may be such that he would recommend abandoning Obama’s oft-repeated pledge against returning US ground troops to combat in Iraq.
Retaking the critical city of Mosul, Iraq’s second largest, and re-establishing the border between Iraq and Syria that Isis has erased “will be fairly complex terrain” for the Iraqi security forces that the US is once again supporting.
“I’m not predicting at this point that I would recommend that those forces in Mosul and along the border would need to be accompanied by US forces, but we’re certainly considering it,” Dempsey said.
Iraq will need about 80,000 effective military troops to retake the terrain it lost to Islamic State militants and restore its border with Syria, the top U.S. general said on Thursday.
"We're going to need about 80,000 competent Iraqi security forces to recapture territory lost, and eventually the city of Mosul, to restore the border," Army General Martin Dempsey, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of staff, told a congressional hearing.
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The Pentagon Press Secretary was rapidly on the case to back-pedal...
#SecDef stresses no coordination with Iran on military activity in Iraq.
— Rear Adm. John Kirby (@PentagonPresSec) November 13, 2014
#Secdef: no review underway for anti-ISIL strategy.
— Rear Adm. John Kirby (@PentagonPresSec) November 13, 2014
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Which is all the more ironic, given al-Baghdadi's comments this morning...
Al-Baghdadi says US will be soon compelled to come on the ground to fight his group. Sending additional 1500 advisors is an example.
— Zaid Benjamin (@zaidbenjamin) November 13, 2014
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More broken promises!!
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"Tells Congress"
Isn't that backwards?
Rear Adm. = Rear Admirer?
cue those incubator babies STAT
because obama.
The Chairman of the Joint Chiefs is going to be shocked when he learns that there is oil beneath that ground where he sends the men wearing boots to fight ISIS which was created and funded by the US, UK, Saudia Arabia, Qatar, Israel, etc.
Is this the same joint chefs of staph that swore to uphold the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic. Even if it is our political leadership?
Thought so! Worthless fucks, each and every one of them.
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Anybody left in the Pentagon who is capable of questioning orders, or has Obama finished the purge?
A rare example of authentic reportage, old school style --- of Gen. Bolger, on Democracy Now! with Amy and Juan, where the general was promoting his new book.
By asking pertinent questions, something completely foreign to the American corporate-pop-cultural newsy flake today, they tore the general's ass up!
They got him to rehash the flimsiest of excuses for illegally invading Iraq, said excuses would have provided 1,000% greater reason to have invaded Saudi Arabia instead, if any country was to have been invaded!
This General Bolger is responsible for the training of the Iraqi military, which immediately folded at the first sight of ISIS, as well as the Afghanistani military (any bets on how long they will last at the first sign of trouble?????).
The clip is below:
http://www.democracynow.org/2014/11/12/why_we_lost_retired_us_general
This General Electric, or General Douchetard, simply will never get it!
On 9/11 fifteen Saudi terrorists, plus three Yeminis and one Egyptian, attacked the USA, if the official Cheney/Bush conspiracy is to be believed (or were at least the cutouts utilized by other parties). Yet the US gov't attacked Iraq and Afghanistan?
The corruption and lies are so brazen now that people become immobilized.
http://vimeo.com/75113425
Followed immediately by boots IN the ground.
Jeez, next they will say they have to full out invade Syria.
But hey, make sure you hug a MIC employee whenever you can.
pods
Assad has Lebensraum, farmland, pipeline routes, access to water...Oops. He has WNDs. Yeah, WMDs.
"We begin bombing in five minutes."
An American, not US subject.
"War is a racket. Next time they call for war, launch a war against the racketeers."
I oop-sied and dup-sied.
An American, not US subject.
Available for sale or lease. Will build to suit.
More war!
More Sons and Daughters sacrificed to stoke anger and more military spending!
More bombs, more hardware, more bullets, more expenditures, more crisis!
More I tell you! More! We must have more! This is Amurika!
My attitude is, if they want war, they'll get two: One, their racket enabling war somewhere in the world, and two, another with me at home when they try to take my children.
The key is to make it more dangerous for them here than their supposed racket enabling enemy elsewhere.
An American, not US subject.
Freedom is the ultimate attitude, the demand to be left alone.
"... hug a MIC employee whenever you can."
Classic. Just classic.
An American, not US subject.
Why do these numberes seem like they were just pulled out of his ass? 85,000 troops? Tel me again how many members of ISIS there are? 15,000? 20,000?
the pentagon is jizzing all over zee place
SHIT SHOW
For those in the know, what he is really saying is that he would like to see Pentagon troops on the ground to a) embarrass the CIA's Obama and the CIA, b) counter the CIA's gains in the Middle-East, especially in Iraq, and c) safe guard the Pentagon's bases that sit in Greater Israel's footprint.
Going to get nastier before it gets worse.
An American, not US subject.
Just remember, until LBJ faked up the the Gulf of Tonkin incident all ground troops in Vietnam were "advisers". This is merely a script rewrite.....
History doesn't repeat, their script, updated for the time, does.
Reject their script and rewrite it.
An American, not US subject.
"Act III, Scene 1: Enter the guillotines..."
“I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism.
I helped make Mexico and especially Tampico safe for American oil interests in 1914.
I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in.
I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefit of Wall Street.
I helped purify Nicaragua for the International Banking House of Brown Brothers in 1902-1912.
I brought light to the Dominican Republic for the American sugar interests in 1916.
I helped make Honduras right for the American fruit companies in 1903.
In China in 1927 I helped see to it that Standard Oil went on its way unmolested. Looking back on it, I might have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three districts. I operated on three continents.”
Smedley Butler
I rode a tank
Held a general's rank
When the blitzkrieg raged
And the bodies stank
Pleased to meet you
Hope you guess my name...
But, what's puzzling you
Is the nature of my game...
I watched with glee
While your kings and queens
Fought for ten decades
For the gods they made
I shouted out,
"Who killed the Kennedys?"
When after all
It was you and me
I rode a tank
Held a general's rank
When the blitzkrieg raged
And the bodies stank
Pleased to meet you
Hope you guess my name...
But, what's puzzling you
Is the nature of my game...
I watched with glee
While your kings and queens
Fought for ten decades
For the gods they made
I shouted out,
"Who killed the Kennedys?"
When after all
It was you and me
oops---doubletapped ol Lucifer
Everything you need to know:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbyAZQ45uww
until Dempsey leads a coup ... he needs to shut his damn mouth
not his call
There are no American boots on the ground in IraK, just our proxy army wearing sandals.
BO will do whatever the fuck he's told to.
Think of the boost to GDP a bunch of BOTG would create.
USA is a such nice peaceful country /s
As Islam is a religion of peace, the USSA is a nation of peace.
Newspeak, yes?
Iraq, our modern day Vietnam.
Actually not yet. USA was fighting Soviet and Vietnam in that invasion, but in Iraq you are fighting i don't even know who - Islamist? Chinees? Iraq is a mess now. Middle Eastern countries are very sensetive so you are only starting to understand how angry they at you.
If only it were true!. The number of combatants in the Vietnam war were relatively few and the allies were well defined. There were the Russians and the NV vs. the US and the SV. In Iraq and Syria you've got the US, Russia, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Hezbollah, the Assad regime, the "pro-Western" rebels, ISIS, the "we aren't ISIS" al-qaeda rebels, the Kurds, the Turks, the Chinese, and on and on. And who's in who's camp changes depending on the day of the week.
Vietnam was really only a quagmire because LBJ limited the bombing to empty forest. Had the US conducted actual warfare against NV, the conflict would have ended in the US's favor in a fraction of the decade it dragged on.
So you're going to rewrite history are you Quantum Numbnuts?
North Viet Nam was primarily a rural agrarian country. However the U.S. made total effort to bomb it into "the stone age". There is no way in hell more bombing would have changed anything. The U.S. lost that war fair and square just as it did in Iraq and Afghanistan. Now we're doubling down in Iraq.
From Wikipedia:
"By the time the United States ended its Southeast Asian bombing campaigns, the total tonnage of ordnance dropped approximately tripled the totals for World War II. The Indochinese bombings amounted to 7,662,000 tons of explosives, compared to 2,150,000 tons in the world conflict."
Stop spouting nonsense.
No, Vietnam ended.
The ISIS gold is ready to get stolen
The Pentagon should consider creating an elite meth addled, heroin addicted kamikaze fighting troop of about 100K that we could send over the hill at ISIS...the drugs would blunt the effect of the first hits ensuring at least a couple rounds get off before the body gave out. Would save roughly $40K/yr in treatment costs and full military honors would be a nice way for family to remember their lost relatives. $4B per year budget savings while fighting terror.
You have a brilliant future ahead of you in Marketing!
While we are trying to do the impossible like conquer the Middle East why don't we try to fight a winter war with Russia and bring civilization to Africa. At least we could try for the hat trick.
Endeavor to persevere..... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsL6mKxtOlQ
'Winning the Hearts & Minds!'
The US military has failed to prevail in all 4 of its wars since WW 2
Hey Dempsey! Here's your rifle. Here's your parachute! You want to engage in conflict, YOU lead the charge as George Washington did. Stop killing our men in women in Bankster wars.
"NO FOREIGN ENTANGLEMENTS"! - George Washington
Don't stop with Dempsey. Put ever one of those fuckers in D.C. on the front lines and see how long this BS lasts.
Just as talks of cutting military spending were starting to take place, here comes "ISIS" out of nowhere! Who could have seen this coming?
The Nobel Peace Prize winner is waging war on the Religion of Peace! I don't understand.
The Lie by Sir Walter Raleigh, 1592
no boots..... ground intel and death from above.... this destroys enemy and enemy morale.... forget expensive precision bombing.... B52 ROLLING THUNDER sortes will give them bleeding eardrums and nervous breakdown in a week or two... get them as they move point ot point in convoys and let the useless iraqis fight for iraq... if not fuckem.... no more volunteer blood in the sand for this obama piece of shit... he and brennan stabbed the military in the back, left with no status of fores, release alqueda from gitmo... hey obama send your fucking bitch daughters .. and the wookie... better yet... send yourself..
"Solutions" involving blowing people up inevitably lead to bigger problems in time. As long as we continue to embrace the idea of killing people we don't like, we are going to be on an endless treadmill of violence and retribution. At some point baby has to be willing to let go of his bomb-bomb kill-kill binky, and learn to realize that other people don't like it when baby keeps blowing everything up when baby doesn't get his way.
This new threat will energize the nation! It's so great there's no way to even think what would happen if they didn't come yelling and beheading at this opportune moment. One could even say, we'd have to ... create them.
Other infamous quotes:
"Read my lips, no new taxes"........
Time to draft the illegals
Defense contractors SHILL IN OFFICE .... !
To do that Obama would have to get on the TV and explain to the American Public why he changed his mind..or lied to us...he will never do that....he will do it under the table as sending advisors in...all 85,000 of them...and lie again to us...
See what happened numerous times before .
https://www.academia.edu/9289413/Relative_advantage_leads_to_war_
Guys like Dempsey are far more frightened of a peacetime military existence than they are of war.
Never mind all that .
Play soccer and learn to win .
See
https://www.academia.edu/9290077/Passionate_Boots_Win_at_Soccer_
Soccer is for fags.
"We're going to need about 80,000 competent Iraqi security forces to recapture territory lost, and eventually the city of Mosul, to restore the border," Army General Martin Dempsey, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of staff, told a congressional hearing."
Hey General Dumpster: What's this WE shit?
And doesn't this costumed ass-hat understand that the ragheads change sides like Americans change their socks? (And in certain parts of Nevada, congress, and the deep south, more often than that.)
its all part of the plan...
The Oded Yinon Plan. Nice way of stopping an Iran-Iraq-Syria pipeline. I think the Qataris will be disappointed.... multiple militias an state proxy actors fighting somewhere tends to make building pipelines impractical.
Israel has that Leviathan find though - transit through Turkey and on to Europe AND destroy any modern, potentially troublesome nearby state.
They need to destroy Iran, which is an economic rival and supporter of Hezbollah [they want Lebanon to the Litani at least!],,,,, the nuclear issue is a ruse....
Opinion: Netanyahu's crying wolf on Iran - CNN.comBut they need to trick the Americans into doing the heavy lifting. Regime change is not enough - Iran's nano and nuclear isotope tech is to advanced!
Crying Wolf Over Iran by Philip Giraldi -- Antiwar.comGround pounders can't get promoted as fast without WAR!
USA played a central role in creating and promoting the forces that became ISIS. The US recruited world wide to get Jihadist elements to come to Turkey and Jordan for training as a force to invade and conquer Syria. Which the USA would then install a figure head government in. As time went on the Jihadists not only came, they took the arms, funding and training and went into Syria. Jihadists came from across the globe, over 4,000 are passport carrying EU citizens. As the Syrian war dragged on the radical elements grew and grew and got more arms and more money from USA. A year ago they dominated the Syrian war, not a US Moderates, but as full blown radical terrorist Jihadists. Still the USA kept funding arming and training, hoping this new terror army would finish Assad, then the USA could declare war on that same terror army, destroy it in battle and win Syria as a full conquest while claiming to be fighting terror.
If you check Obama's newest plans for Syria, you will see the scenario I just wrot of coming to pass. Obama will boots on the ground and also says he will remove Assad in order to better right ISIS. THE SAME ISIS Obama recruited, trained, payed, armed and transported to Syria. You see, you create a foe, then claim you need to fight him, while all along that foe was a straw man to get at what you really wanted all along, the open conquest and rule of Syria as a NATO puppet state.
Who Benefits
Saudia Arabia, Qatar, Iraq, and Israel, should be the ones that put their troops in the fight.
Not USSA, or UK, got the t-shirt twice, plus our dead, and wounded.
It's Quicksand to Hell
If the locals can't put the isis down, we sure can't
Hmm, ISIS == The Locals? I'm guessing YES!
We could cut military spending by 90% and still defend THIS COUNTRY just fine. But, that would interfere with Mr. Dempsey's post-DoD contractor job, and affect the value of his stock portfolio.