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Putin "Prepares For Economic War", Buys Whopping 55 Tonnes Of Gold In Q3
Just as China is buying 'cheap' oil with both hands and feet, so Russia, according to the latest data from The World Gold Council (WGC) has been buying gold in huge size. Dwarfing the rest of the world's buying in Q3, Russia added a stunning 55 tonnes to its reserves, as The Telegraph reports, Putin is taking advantage of lower gold prices to pack the vaults of Russia's central bank with bullion as it prepares for the possibility of a long, drawn-out economic war with the West.
Russia bought more gold in Q3 then all other countries combined...
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Vladimir Putin's government is understood to be hoarding vast quantities of gold, having tripled stocks to around 1,150 tonnes in the last decade. These reserves could provide the Kremlin with vital firepower to try and offset the sharp declines in the rouble.
Russia's currency has come under intense pressure since US and European sanctions and falling oil prices started to hurt the economy. Revenues from the sale of oil and gas account for about 45pc of the Russian government's budget receipts.
In total, central banks around the world bought 93 tonnes of the precious metal in the third quarter, marking it the 15th consecutive quarter of net purchases. In its report, the World Gold Council said this was down to a combination of geopolitical tensions and attempts by countries to diversify their reserves away from the US dollar.
By the end of the year, central banks will have acquired up to 500 tonnes of gold during the latest buying spell, according to Alistair Hewitt, head of market intelligence at the World Gold Council.
"Central banks have been consistently adding to their gold holdings since 2009," Mr Hewitt told the Telegraph.
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Oh yeah, well we're investing in illegal immigrants.........
I really like Putin. I really do.
I may put Vlad on my Christmas Card list.
Yes I said CHRISTMAS.
Weird because Obamao isn't on anyone's Kwanza list.
Makes sense why the USA and J-Mafia want Putin dead. These crooks are after all that GOLD!!!
Wow can't wait to use teh gold to buy things and trade and whatnot. I'm sure the world will be a wonderfull place to live at that point.
It will be wonderful if you have gold and silver. Otherwise not wonderful if you hold paper.
No wonder the price dropped
Kazaksthan needs some democracy
Money is gold, and nothing else. - some dead asshole
"gold is money.. everything else is credit.."
I think that is what the dead asshole with a near Hitler 'stashe actually said.
massive purchase drives gold to 300 dollars an ounce.
The notable ommision being, of course, China. AT a rate of around 500 Tonnes pear year, PBOC would on a pro rata basis have acquired about 125 Tonnes in the same quarter. But, of course, WGC doesn't want to admit that China
s Gold demand, Official and Wholesale (SGE Offtake) combined, amounts alone to more that total world supply ex-China and Russia.......
More press trying to drive the price down. Bad news trying to force the weak hands.
http://www.cnbc.com/id/102177857
Everyong one better sell now so the strong hands can buy at a discount.
Can you say DumbA**es?
I knew you could...
DaddyO
Did Putin take delivery?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8_GVfPuw4M
Russia already has our critical energy infrastructure by the balls according to this
http://www.planbeconomics.com/2014/11/russian-government-reportedly-behi...
Bullshit. (not you, markmotive - the ABC story itself)
US and Israel employed STUXNET to exploit security flaws in Siemens Step 7 SCADA software in 2010, which controlled industrial controller chips called PLCs which control all kinds of industrial equipment. The US and Israel were targeting uranium enrichment centrifuges at Iran's Natanz enrichment facilities. The same software was used to attack Iran's civilian power plants and a Russian nuclear facility.
STUXNET isn't the whole virus - it's the piece at the very end of the chain. The Iranian labs and Russian nuclear plant do not have direct connections to the internet. It's speculated that some innocuous piece of hardware was used as the mule to carry it in to the facility. It could have been anything connected to their internal networks - a copy/fax machine, a CD/DVD replacement drive for a computer or video surveillance equipment.
Russia is worried about this because the US already infected one of their nuke plants. The US and Israel (probably all of ZATO for that matter) are cooking up a good false flag to start WWIII. They blew the MH-17 false flag but still have the backer - psychopathic Jewish-Ukrainian oligarch Igor Kolomoisky - on their side. This is the guy that owns BUK missile launchers, fields his own army in Eastern Ukraine, owns the newspapers and TV stations, and runs the power plants. Like the Zaporozhye Nuclear Power Plant a few hundred miles north of Crimea - the largest one in all of Europe. He already tried to put together a scheme of flooding the plant and blaming the ensuing meltdown on Russian terrorists. It would be stupid-easy to release a huge amount of radiation from that plant some day, then blame it on Russian cyber-attacks instead. Shutting down a few plants in the US at the same time would add a little juice to evil Russian hacker angle.
The fact that the US and Israel made STUXNET is irrelevant - CNN and NYT will 'fix' that uncomfortable fact. I already see mainstream media priming the pump. The ABC article spouts the same drivel, dropping hints here and there about Russian hackers and vulnerabilities in our power grids, water supplies and ATM networks. Note that last one. If you need to start WWIII because your central banks screwed the pooch once too often, then why not toss in the ATM networks as false-flag targets, too? Dead people have lost their media impact. Russians interferring with American's weekend beer money? F'king LAUNCH!!
Take out the utilities and tank the dollar = martial law. Kill a bunch of useless eaters with radiation. Demonize Russia. Get chicken-hawk Israeli-firster congress to declare war. Lob a few ICBMs. Mission accomplished.
And all that before you hit the back nine!
imo putin takes his first silver delivery in december. possibly cooridinated with the chinese. although both countries have motives, imo russia's are more pressing and russia has been singled out for particularly shameful abuse by the peace prizer. read below and substitute accordingly. how many fifty million dollars do you think mr. putin has in his own name, not to mention the resources of the nation he leads?
http://blog.milesfranklin.com/chinese-checkmate
He was going to, but the Perth Mint offered completely free storage, and zero shipping charges.
A deal so good even world leaders will jump at it!
From who?
In golds defense.
Despite the dollar rising because of the "cleanest dirty shirt" theory.
Russia, China, India, (everyone but US) buying gold.
They benefit ONLY when gold price rises.
World economy starting to trade "around" USD.
Manipulation of gold price down being openly addressed.
....Ahh, when to switch from DUST to NUGT ????
If that is true then when you are paid by check or Federal reserve notes you are only recieving credit. If that is the case then you haven't earned any income. The IRS states that Credit is not income. So have we been doing our tax returns wrong?
A spectacle not to be missed!
Putin is hedging his coming oil losses by going after gold.
Wondering what Putin will do when that too (gold) goes down.
After all, US has both by the balls.
You still in fantasy dreamland? We are drug induced country who is dying of cancer.
I guess Putin didn't need a referendum. Hahaha!
and CHECK! Your move
Listening to the song "Drunk Americans" by Toby Keith on the way to work this morning, I thought to myself "yeah, what the fuck.......this is the shit that so many dumb fuckers celebrate and sing along to"
We get what we deserve and what is knocking at the doorstep
Hey stupid, the US has nothing but debt just look at your dollar bill and it says "FEDERAL RESERVE NOTE". NOTE if you don't know is a promise to pay it's like your car note or mortgage note.
The thing that always bothered me about this is that it is a promise to pay; what ? It's a promise to pay another "dollar bill". For some reason, I always found this promise to pay me a dollar bill for my dollar bill as disquieting; even nervous making. Would you sell me your used Cadillac if i wrote you a note that said, "I promise to pay you another note that says I promise to pay you a note"? Somehow, I doubt it.
Because you just arrived from Mars.
Give it sometime and it won't bother you anymore.
People believe in much worse things.
72% of Americans believe in Angels. 100% of the children believe in Santa Claus.
I was raised around both nonsense. 24 hours a day!
My child does not, nor will she believe in Santa.
Because lying is wrong and trust once lost is seldom regained.
Hey, know what? I've never did the 'ol fake tennis ball toss with either of my dogs ... 'cause dogs ain't dumb, and wrong is wrong.
How big of a piece of shit do you have to be to get a stiffy over putting one over on a dog, or a 4 year old?
Sounds like the way I'm going to be raising my kids whenever I have them.
You encourage them to buy into these delusions and you only hurt them in the long run.
Exactly.
Santa Claus is the "SPIRIT" of giving, everything else is just visual aids. Hmm, so much for trying not to be a D!ck.
Santa Claus is the greatest marketing scheme ever devised.
Move over Santa Claus, paper gold has knocked you off your perch
Santa Claus fits the supernatural and ghostly nonsense. Kids are worshiping (believing in) some kind of fantasy.
100% here thinks you are a senseless woman. go where you deserve, kitchen, & shut the fuck up, politics ain't for girls.
Wrong!
Politics and manipulation are women's best tool.
You're clueless how the human brain works.
Perpetuum Ponzi
quadratic_equation
I said it before and I will say it again:
I believe gold will be the last bubble; but, a very short one. Here is why:
Central Banks/State Nations (where most bullion is) will convert their gold to jump-start their economies. Then, soon thereafter, they will face, I say face, because most of these leaders already know this but, they can’t admit it publically, there won’t be enough oil to grow these businesses anymore.
Here is when, even the low IQ people will know that their lifestyle, economic security, and their kids future are finished.
By the way: The next 1973 (oil crisis) I have it for 2019. But, this time around, we won’t be able to recover… Ever!
Central Banks/State Nations (where most bullion is)
Really?
So THAT'S where all the gold is?... Thanks for your service as the official 'LOCATOR IN CHIEF' Snoopy...
I said bullion (9999 finesse)
Central banks don't care about jewelry gold.
OK... Since you're the expert on this...
1. What percentage of the world's 'ABOVE GROUND' gold is cut into jewelry?
2. What percent is purified into 'bullion'?
Because, from that logic...
- & NOTWITHSTANDING the relative 'inconvenience' [cost, etc] of refining 'jewelry gold' into bullion...
- & NOTWITHSTANDING the fact that central banks are candidates to be the ONLY entities with the werewithal to accomplish such a feat [such as they can print money out of thin air to facilitate the process]...
-& NOTWITHSTANDING that their 'post BRETTON WOODS' fiat ponzi scheme' has apparently run its full course & is in the process of being exposed...
Well, UMMM... tell me again why "Central banks don't care about jewelry gold."
OW My Balls
World Gold Holdings
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold_reserve#World_gold_holdings
Bretton Woods: Dollar as World’s Reserve Currency. It means: United States would use the convertible financial system to trade at a tremendous profit with developing nations, expanding its industry and acquiring raw materials. It would use this surplus to send dollars to Europe, which would then be used to rebuild their economies, and make the United States the market for their products. This would allow the other industrialized nations to purchase products from the Third World, which reinforced the American role as the guarantor of stability.
A trade surplus made it easier to keep US armies abroad and to invest outside the U.S., and because other nations could not sustain foreign deployments, the U.S. had the power to decide why, when and how to intervene in global crises. The dollar continued to function as a compass to guide the health of the world economy, and exporting to the U.S. became the primary economic goal of developing or redeveloping economies. This arrangement came to be referred to as the Pax Americana, in analogy to the Pax Britannica of the late 19th century and the Pax Romana of the first.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bretton_Woods_system#Dollar_shortages_and_the_Marshall_Plan
And why "Central banks don't care about jewelry gold."
a) Because gold doesn’t generate income.
b) Gold will end up on the banker’s hands one way or another
c) The best gold has been mined already
brettons wood is done, over, boom, gone.
Life, as we know, will soon end!
Your picture, the rifle, is the next currency. What’s coming.
Listen EI.
The Fight club gotcha on that one.
No. They did NOT.
Both prices are going down.
Listen.
Let's talk about the value proposition. Your argument hinges on a few degrees. Face it. What's crude going to $25/bbl? Come'on. Gold at $995 is a strong psychological buy, real strong. Cost-constrained miners will start to dump reserves at $1050/oz to pay the bills. We're there.
Those sunglasses will hide the black eye so you're good.
Who cares about gold miners? The dollar drove Asia, Russia, South America, the world broken.
Wouldn’t surprise me to see gold below $800; and oil below $60.
Gold,........ denominated in USDollars.
I think you're half right. . . .
I care to best describe the occurred facts right. The future is open to debate; after all, the future is a moving piece.
Reminds me of the US Bank Memes
Started way back, but just going back to like 1880:
- Silver Certificates are no good, say the bankers
- Gold Certificates are no good, say the bankers
- US needs Central bank to keep the government from spending too much, moral hazard
- 1913 Federal Reserve Central Bank Created
- Stock Market is good, US Industry can rise forever
- After Crash and Depression, banks say the economy is not good, can't invest
- Public Banking is bad, Private Banking is the way out of Depression
- Government should stay out of banking
- Only Private Bankers have the skill to rate businesses
- Only Private Banks have the Skills needed to determine money policy for the people
- US needs a Fiat Currency
Haha. We know how that all worked out in 2008 Financial Crisis. Boom & Bust. But the damage is no longer even transparent with non-standard accounting & non-standard financial instruments... and financial ratings firms are not reliable.
Private Bankers & Central Bankers were schemers from the 1900s. Today people are smart enough that many people can judge how to assess their own taxes and look at their own business accounting data.
Solution: Shift 2 million people out of Private Banks into Public Banks. This will help create downward pressure on private banking executive salaries... through downsizing their functions, their processes, and their purpose on Wall Street & London. Then break them down with Glass-Steagal Act and Anti-Trust Law. Then End the Fed.
Fuck the tribe.
Tribe hates gold buyers. Tribe hates spend part of what you earn save the rest folks. Tribe hates peace. Tribe loves ethnic strife and civil war, trible loves Washington DC.
You are being racist and anti-semitic. It's important to not be racist and completely understand the situation. Once you understand the complete situation, you can talk about it and not be racist. Here's a good explanation...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNIcAcrvi2M
Why does only one religion portray themselves as a race?, only one.....rather greedy, but typical considering.
They have good publicists, i.e. the MSM.
Yes, the Sikhs do see themselves as a religion, a culture and a race. Why don't you like Sikhs you racist blowjob?
Sikhs don't consider themselves a race.
Listen.
"Fuck the tribe."
That was just rude and insensitive!
Love the sarcasm.
Putin got a huge discount and it destroyed the price?
Costco in Moscow filled the order?
If I had a ton of $USD, I'd probably trade it for a ton of Au.
On a long enough timeline, the value of the dollah drops to zero.
And yet gold is down $6.60 as I speak.
We are at a crossroads for sure
And yet gold is down $6.60 as I speak.
We are at a crossroads for sure
A million smackers (in $100 FRNs) only weighs ten kilos.
1k kilos in a tonne.
32150.7 Troy ounces per Tonne.
If my math is correct, you'd be getting your Au for $321.51/ozT, so yeah, I'd take that deal too.
Ofc my math could be wrong...
If you study how markets operate you'll see that the seller offers the product, ten gold bars, or whatever; and this is called "the offer"; so that's not to confusing. it appears on a trading screen, and if you, the buyer are calm and rational, and your hair is not on fire; you can wait and see what happens next. Maybe someone will hit the "bid"; as it's called and buy it. The Bid is always a little higher than the offer. Or maybe after a while the seller may withdraw his offer and make a lower one; see it depends on who is anxious and motivated. Do you have a "motivated seller" ?. Maybe. So you like the new lower offfer, it falls within your desired range, and you hit the bid. This is called programmed accumulation. The person who causes the price to rise is the motivated buyer; the one whose hair is on fire; they just have to have some; and right away. I could buy ten tonnes of Gold in a week without ever raising the price at all. It's a rational process. you decide where you're willing to bid according to how the market is behaving. When people get excited and in this case; fearful, and butt-hurt about their stocks and worried about their bonds; then they just hit whatever offer comes across the screen; that's when the price rises. It's all a matter of fear and greed.
Sure. But what if the seller (of paper gold) WANTS to drive the price down? Becomes rather easy, doesn't it. Especially if he has unlimited supplies of paper. Naked shorting.
And, via Jon Corzine's star performance at former Fed primary dealer, MF Global, Comex will be saved from default, by destruction of the holder of the bids. In the 1st case MFG. In the 2nd, once more with feeling case, PFG. Comex is not a market detemining price. It has not been for some time.
How do we even know that Dollars were involved in any of the Russian's or Chinese gold purchases? We don't know that. We don't know who Russia bought from or what it paid.
I'm not even sure why that transaction is recorded or made public in the first place.
For my own personal sanity, I don't concern myself anymore. I have my stash and I'm adding to it. If Russia or China happen to be big buyers without driving prices higher, I'm a happy camper. If they're just making up shit and creating rumors, I don't care either.
Gold is important or else nobody would care to boast with it.
"I'm not even sure why that transaction is recorded or made public in the first place."
I'm guessing this has more to do with China/Russia trade than the dollar. Both nations hold each other's currencies now (swaps). Evidence of value underlying those claims appears to be part of the bargain.
Trust, but verify.
The great thing about insider trading is that when it comes to Soverign Powers....they do it, and there's no legal issue to address.
So Russia could have pumped the "oh no, we may need to sell gold to shore up our currency problem" just to put downward pressure on prices, all at the same time they're going through a massive accumulation.
kind of funny to me.
Yes it is quite amazing that some bucket shop junior public company exagerrates its business prospects or has some deficiency in its disclosure, it is met by the full force of the SEC. Yet Yellen et al. can misrepresent that "QE is over" when it has simply been taken over by the banks and has never ended. If a CEO of a junior mining company did the same thing, they would be banned from the markets and potentially jailed. But Yellen still gets to run the world with no consequence whatsoever? WTF.
There are always consequences. Always.
Sometimes we just have to be patient and wait for them come come around but come around they will.
"If a CEO of a junior mining company did the same thing, they would be banned from the markets and potentially jailed. But Yellen still gets to run the world with no consequence whatsoever?"
How many aircraft carriers, attack helicopters, guided missles, fighter jets, and nuclear weapons does that junior mining company have backing it up compared to say, Yellen/The Fed?
How can the price of anything go down when there is little or none of it for sale?
Massive 'naked shorts' by the Bullion Banks with free money via the Fed. That's how the former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury described it. he said gold and silver should be much higher excpet for their illegal manipulation.
Fake markets with massive redundant claims on stock. That's how. As Rocky Racoon once put it, all prices are fake until the dollar dies.
when you are short stack in poker, arrived to big blind, what is the only move you can do ? all in !
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What is the price of gold could be right now, without this big buying Putin from the global gold market? It is $ 1000 per oz. or less?
Wow that would be an astute observation if the price of gold was set by the price of gold but it is not and so, it is not an astute observation.
If they accululated 55 Tonnes over a month; they probably contributed to maintaining a floor under the price; but they had plenty of help from china, and from wealthy individuals and families in Europe; who know that everything is not going to come out sunny side up in Euro Land.
Putin should be careful of snow plows on the runway.
I hear he steers clear of construction sites and their nail guns.
Listen.
There would be .308 roits. Bitchez voting from the rooftops and shit.
Fuck with Vlad is taking your own life. Try it and see!
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-11-10/how-putin-rolls
Putin's popularity is running about 98%.
Barry's about 1/3 of that ... on a good day. Even Diebold can't save Barry now.
The question is, can Barry save Diebold (by implication the owners).
Listen.
Many calling for Putin to become "FIRST" Global Chancellor.
Take it Vlad. Take it now!
I think a funny looking kenyan with big ears is the one that needs to be careful... If he pushes Bibi or Vlad or Assad too far, something unsuspected might happen...
Putin knows the contract is out on him. For the past several months he has been bringing his food with him whenever he travels abroad. He never consumes anything that was not personally prepared by members of his security detail. The guy is justifiably worried of a poisoning incident. They don't have the balls to take him out violently.
You mean a poison like pollonium?
And here I was thinking only right-wing nutjobs were in the habit of hoarding gold.
Oh, wait.
Yes. Tens of millions of people in India, China, and Russia as well as the US see gold as a hesdge against over-printed fiat issued by overly-indebted governments {or quasi-public, essentially private central banks issuing a national currency} - because they are "right wing" and "nutjobs."
Your idiotic leftist troll droppings manage, it must be conceded, to take the breath in new and interesting ways each week, at least.
for that, I thank you.
Shouldn't you be off to volunteer at the soup kitchen to feed the poor and the illegally migrated? Or is it just that...you know... government coercion of others is your proxy morality, and you're basically a hypocritical, borderline moron who doesn't actually do anything other than hold what he erroneously believes to be the 'correct' political positions?
I tell you, I'd take an unskilled uneducated Mexican, hell I'd take 10 of them, for every one of the sort of turtle-neck wearing, summer in the Hamptons, back to Westchester for the "holidays" e-cigarette smoking faggots I could deport.
... well.. alright then, that ought to do it. Thanks for reading. I'm off to drink my face off and teach my liver to stop being so uppity.
That ... was beautiful. Thank you.
hooray for the riff raff!
Great rant
Putin vs Obamao (not on my Kwanza list either) vs the world vs China...
The Central Bank of DoChenRollingBearing is buying PMs, but not for war. Latest was platinum from Provident Metals.
"Bitcoin No. 10, "The Ringer" and Provident Metals"
goo.gl/GRGii3
* October gold imports jump to 150 tonnes -govt source
* Curbs could imposed for private trading firms
* Finance ministry and central bank to resume talks (Adds failure to reach decision at meeting)
By Manoj Kumar and Suvashree Choudhury
NEW DELHI/MUMBAI, Nov 13 (Reuters) - India's Finance Ministry and central bank will reconvene in a day or two after failing to come to a decision on Thursday over whether to restrict gold imports after inbound shipments surged in the past two months, pressuring the country's trade deficit. October shipments to India, the world's No.2 gold consumer behind China, jumped to about 150 tonnes from less less than 25 tonnes a year earlier and 143 tonnes in September, a finance ministry official said on Thursday.
Officials from the country's central bank and Finance Ministry met on Thursday to discuss the policy but no decision was taken, a senior ministry official told Reuters after the meeting. They will resume their discussions in a day or two.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/11/13/india-gold-imports-idUSL3N0T33...
New Delhi is populated with complete idiots; but that's nothing new. All the people are doing is controlling inflation by sequestering their over-supply of Rupee in gold. I suppose these wing-nuts want more inflation? I doubt it; they have plenty, already. They already TRIED restricting gold imports; AGAIN; it was illegal for decades, which simply caused it to be smuggled. Real, certifiable wing-nuts.
That is beautifully put: "sequestering their over-supply of Rupee in gold". Now when market forces start to apply, and that is happening with the grossly-oversupplied dollah, then it is fairly predictable what might happen to the dollah value of gold, isn't it.
Pretty sure China buys that much in ten days.
They are taking over in an unprecedented way. Has any empire ever emerged so quickly and with such a huge advantage over its failing predecessors in human history?
Nor has any empire in history been so innovative and resourceful in its use of melamine.
Never before and you know what the best part of this is? They are producing Mao paper which is like wallpaper and they are beating the Jews at their own game!
Chinese fraud is as old or older than Jewish fraud. Maybe not older but both are really old and had an awful long time to perfect the ponzi and mass delusion.
Have you ever bought anything that was owned and created by a chinese company? They manufacture western goods uneconomically, they create nothing. Profits? Ownership rights? ha
Move to china tmosey
Have you ever bought anything that was owned and created by a chinese company? They manufacture western goods uneconomically, they create nothing. Profits? Ownership rights? ha
Move to china tmosey
On another note how can anyone get so excited about $100 million of gold purchases? Seriously. $100 million, put that in context...really
What is the context of your $100M figure?
heh,
under the watchful EyE of the banking class, first a "cultural revolution" to clear out the old history, killing off the intellectuals, training the "children" to turn on their "parents", it really only takes a couple of generations - I mean, look at amrka in your own lifetime!
yup, Nixon & Kissinger "open" the door, Rothschilds move right on in, the rest is history.
as to "everyone" buying gold - when shit goes "global", isn't gold supposed to be the new trade? digital gold. . . I heard folks are preppin' the minds via "bitcoin" type pixelated "monie". . . not long now, hue & cry. . .
(thanks JB)
Nation states haven't been the plan for a long time.
Unfortunately, the various mafias, corporations, and cartels haven't played as nice together as they were supposed to.
Best laid plans of mice and super-men.
nation states are fictions anyhow, the obvious outcome of perpetual invading, rapin' & pillagin' that's gone on forever. after centuries, a protection racket was the obvious "state".
that "nation states" got created, with private central banks to control the installed "CEOs" to keep things competitive - with different rules 'n' laws via imaginary lines defended globally - the goal has always been full spectrum control of resources - "human resources" used to be "personnel" - now with everything run via the lil MBA-bots, the real names for ownership gets more obvious.
another generation or three, the human pot gets stirred, less "markers" noticeable, global taxed consumers. it's obvious where this is headed.
but yes, of course there will be blood - anyone who believes their "personal" storyline inherited needs to be removed.
then? obedient drones who love their global-cultural role-playing. not so very different than now, just more homogenous. soma, if you will.
You said Christmas?
You clearly are a racist/homophobe/biggot/anti-female
you get the jist.
What is this CHRISTMAS that you speak of?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/christmas-stricken-from-sc...
It's a secular state. Why should the government tell you what holidays you can celibrate.
I thought you Americans didn't like the government in your grill.
Americans aren't secular, they worship Santa Claus, the red-suited god of consumption.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturn_%28mythology%29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturnalia
Christmas has absolutely nothing to do with christ. It's just Saturnalia renamed. Americans are worshipping Saturn.
One thinks your logic is flawed and kind of silly. There are two realities here. First, most Americans probably don't celebrate Christ on Christmas (in actual practice, despite saying Merry Christmas). Second, they are not worshipping Saturn just because the date was co-opted centuries ago.
It has a lot to do with wealthy Dutch New Yorkers in the 19th century who didn't fancy those "role-reversals" and the giving of meat and drink to poor, unruly Christmas carolers.
@css1971, correct, sir.
And as for Easter, they are participating in the ancient Babylonian fertility rite in honor of Semiramis/Astarte/Isis, etc...
They SHOULD be celebrating the Passover.
Folks thought "Ho Ho Ho" was his laugh when actually it is a policy statement.
"When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them..."
You say:
"I thought you Americans didn't like the government in your grill..."
Is that to suppose that ALL 'Americans' are of the same mindset?
The intention of the framers of this country [vis-a-vis 'separation of church & state'] wasn't to supplant GOD with GOVERNMENT... Instead ~ it was to preclude GOVERNMENT from implementing legislative voice in such things.
Is that to suppose that ALL 'Americans' are of the same mindset?
No, it just means that Americans are choosy about what they get their panties in a wad over.
Excuse me while I go read my Jefferson Bible.
Merry Santamas!
Festivus for the rest of us...
For the record... I don't give a goddamned flying fuck what the motherfucking fucks like yourself celebrate [or don't] in the latter half of December...
I do take exception, however, to the goddamned motherfucking GOVERNMENT [these days, run by MOTHERFUCKING BOLSHEVIK WANNABEES] telling me is what is worthy of 'naming' my celebration [or lack thereof]...
I hope I made my subtle point...
Peace & goodwill motherfucker!
If you give me your address, I'll send you some Mylanta for Sinterklaas.
As you seem to be a bad boy, watch out for Krampus.
"Montgomery’s Board of Education voted 7 to 1 Tuesday to eliminate references to all religious holidays on the published calendar for 2015-2016, a decision that followed a request from Muslim community leaders to give equal billing to the Muslim holy day of Eid al-Adha."
As a Catholic, I'm pissed-off all year long because the public schools won't send my kids (and everyone else's kids) home for Good Friday.
Don't even get me started about the Feast of the Assumption of the Blessed Virgin Mary.
Godless communist school system.
For the last fucking time... I don't give a FF if you're Catholic, or are a 'Pastafarian' & worship the goddamned Flying Spaghetti Monster [which is a sect that I'm thinking about joining] because I have no evidence that any Pastafarians ever:
- tortured people in it's name over the past millenium
- has priests that sodomize little boys
- launders money
Furthermore ~ I've heard it's a sect that, as of now, doesn't adhere to a BIBLE that was:
- supposedly a transcript of lying jews
- who spoke Aramaic
- whose first versions were written in Greek [& subsequently translated by European kings who sought to remove aspects that didn't fit with their agendas]
- & were furthermore only 'penciled in' as TRUTH after the Council of Nicea [which, in todays terms, might not be that different from a CFR, or Bilderberg meeting, and are mysogynistic to the core]
Hey ~ but whatever floats your boat
I have no evidence that any Pastafarians ever:
- tortured people in it's name over the past millenium
- has priests that sodomize little boys
- launders money
Look at your current Godless Government. You must be fucking blind. You are not seeking evidence as there is OVERWHELMING EVIDENCE.
You claim that the Godless Government has not tortured people for millenia? Well I must agree that it has not been for milennia as the US Government has not lasted that long.
The United States has tortured many people. The Islamists know that. Haven't you ever read about Abu Ghraib or Guantanimo Bay?
Do I need to link to the photographic evidence exposed in 2005?
You claim that the US Government does not have its pedophile and pederast priests? LMAO. Look here.
https://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=A0SO8wS3ImVU6D4A_g1XNyoA;_ylc=X1MDMjc2NjY3OQRfcgMyBGZyA3lmcC10LTIyNARncHJpZANheVpJakdyYVNVV3pWREEwT1RGeHZBBG5fcnNsdAMwBG5fc3VnZwMwBG9yaWdpbgNzZWFyY2gueWFob28uY29tBHBvcwMwBHBxc3RyAwRwcXN0cmwDBHFzdHJsAzI2BHF1ZXJ5A1BlbnRhZ29uIENoaWxkIFBvcm5vZ3JhcGh5BHRfc3RtcAMxNDE1OTIxNTcz?p=Pentagon+Child+Pornography&fr2=sb-top-search&fr=yfp-t-224&fp=1
There are so many references...
And that ONE STORY is just what is on the surface as that investigation was quashed as it involved High Level Priests.
How many Senators and US Representatives have been caught fondling their Male Pages?
For every story exposed you can be certain that many more are not exposed. It is like COCKROACHES.
I have also personally WITNESSED IT HAPPENING in Phoenix, Arizona. The Cops were called to protect the pederasts against our Construction Crew.
You claim that the US Government, that Godless regime, does not launder money? The evidence is OVERWHELMING that you are full of shit. I cannot even really begin to bring the evidence to the contrary of that statement. Where do I begin?
There are none so blind as those whom refuse to see. ~ Justin Hayward
@TT
Can't you fucking read?
I'm bashing GOVERNMENT & RELIGION equally here... What part of:
"I do take exception, however, to the goddamned motherfucking GOVERNMENT" ~ don't you understand?
Evil is evil [whether it's perpetrated in the name of GOD or in the name of SECULARISM]...
OTOH ~ 'Good' is normally partaken by the INDIVIDUAL in the name of mercy & grace... Usually, because of an intuitive desire that comes from the HEART & NOT becoming of a plebian OATH to a false GOD or STATEHOOD
I take no exceptions whatsoever.
Yes in the name of God or in the name of Government people have been mistreated, maligned, killed, and tortured.
Our Republic was set up for a RELIGIOUS and MORAL PEOPLE.
I do not support Institutionalized RELIGION AT ALL. Even Christ Jesus is against that. He went against the RELIGIOUS ORDER of His day and was PUT TO DEATH.
But to make the claim that atheists are somehow superior, when atheism institutionalized brings about the same damned result as religion institutionalized is the epitome of HYPOCRISY.
"But to make the claim that atheists are somehow superior"
Reveal to me where I made that claim...
"But to make the claim that atheists are somehow superior"
Reveal to me where I made that claim...
Until that moment... I'll re-iterate my assertation vis-a-vis your lack of reading skills &/or indulgence...
"Speed" reading.
Jesus Christ did not pronounce on "institutionalized religion." The question would not have existed for Him because then -- as now -- there is only one religion: Judaism which was established by God, and which evolved into Christianity -- the fulfilment of God's promise to the Jews. There is nothing else. There are philosophical systems, and world views, and ideolgies and things that call themselves churches and religions, but these are human inventions even if some of them represent a valid atempt to find God.
Christ said he came to fulfill the (Mosaic) law, not to abolish it. Moreover, He made a point pf establishing a clergy and a hierachy (headed by Saint Peter) before His Death, Resurrection and Ascension into heaven.
The net effect: there is only one Church -- the holy, catholic and apostolic church of Rome and Constantiniople (sadly divided but still the Church).
No. No. No.
Judaism is what gets us in the trouble that we're in today.
There was a Promise that YHWH/JHVH made to Adam.
There was a relationship between Seth and YHWH/JHVH, through the next six generations through Enoch and Noah, his grandson, who WAS PERFECT IN HIS GENERATIONS, ie., no demon spawn in his blood.
That promise continued through Shem, who hunted Nimrod down, cut him in pieces, and distributed his limbs throughout the post-deluvian world as an example.
That promise became a covenant with Abram, ne Abraham, who was a HEBREW. NOT A JEW.
Judah was but ONE son of Jacob ne Israel. The promise/covenant applies to ALL Hebrew decedents of Israel, NOT JUST THE TRIBE OF JUDAH.
(I will make you the father of many nations)
By the time of Yeshua, the traditions of men (ancient Babylonian talmudic oral tradition) had usurped the WORD of YHWH/JHVH, which is why Yeshua spent so much time confronting the Pharisees, before they subjected Him to SEVEN illegal trials before Pilate washed his hands and let them crucify Him.
The church of Rome is that ancient Babylonian Talmudic oral tradition personified today, as evidenced by the ancient Babylonian Talmudic holiday schedule that they keep. It's Babylon wallpapered over with characters from TRUE Christianity.
Judeo-Christian is an oxymoron. You're either following Babylonian Judean tradition or following Yeshua. There is NO compromise.
Catholic eh, sorry to hear that. Ever read Luther's writings?
Doesn't he have a church? I thought America was a Christian country, and we (Christians) were all in this together?
No.
Christ has a Church.
The church is an ASSEMBLY, the ek klesia...the Called Out.
A Church is not an institution or a building.
Christ would have never advocated for a CHURCH...
Christ was Gnostic to the core...
CHURCHES are 'usurpers'... Power & money suckers who succeeded in fooling populations of dimwits in the name of Christ... It makes TOTAL SENSE that:
- The GOSPELS were written by jew scribes
- Of the 'countless' numbers of Gospels written, it finally took a COUNCIL OF NICEA to actually determine what THE BIBLE should be [which later was modified by European kings, out of inconvenience]... AND... that many of the Gospels [which include more 'Gnostic' accounts which include the Gospel of Thomas, & yes, the Gospel of Mary Mag] were omitted...
When you explain to me WHY that was all the case, then we can have a straight talk on the subject... Or, if you have no clear answers on those details, then just STFU & quit wasting my time...
No. Christ was not a gnostic.
I agree that He would not have supported an institutionalized CHURCH.
I am also aware of the gnostic texts. I have read them IN GREEK. THere was a canon set by the Roman Catholic Church in the Council of Nicea. I am very well aware of that as well.
I am also very well aware of INTENTIONAL MISTRANSLATIONS in order to fit POLITICAL AGENDAS.
For example the ENTIRE CONCEPT OF MARRIAGE AND DIVORCE, FORNICATION and ADULTERY, are a TOTAL FABRICATION as the Greek word for MARRIAGE, literally translated in Koine Greek, VULGAR GREEK, means FUCK.
(How can you fuck outside of fucking?)
FORNICATION, A COMPLETE FABRICATION, is translated from the Greek Word PORNEIA...which means...TO ENGAGE WITH A PROSTITUE.
There are NO SCRIPTURES to support the fact that POLYGAMY is allowed for MEN and that WOMEN ARE PROPERTY.
(Of course revealing this at lame Bible Studies is enough to get you kicked out of most any church.)
It reads a little bit differently in Koine Greek than it does in English.
Even the modern Roman Catholics will refuse to recognize a marriage that has not been consummated. Even they cannot stoop to that level of duplicity. How can two people be fucking when they have not fucked?
And as for the Gnsotic Gospels and the Apocryphal Texts...
There were too many CONTRADICTIONS written within those texts and the current accepted form of the Bible thus they were not included.
This was not by the design of the members of that Council. Even the very early churches were at battle with the Gnostics and they were labled as heretics. The very early church was NOT ORGANIZED. That ORGANIZATION did not happen until Roman Emperor Constantine established the Roman Catholic Church as the State Religion during his reign.
Now do you wish to continue?
"This was not by the design of the members of that Council. Even the very early churches were at battle with the Gnostics and they were labled as heretics. The very early church was NOT ORGANIZED. That ORGANIZATION did not happen until Roman Emperor Constantine established the Roman Catholic Church as the State Religion during his reign.
Now do you wish to continue?"
Sure ~ I could go on all night... tomorrow... next week... the rest of they year... The year after... My lifetime... & the 'NEXT' as well...
I DO NOT view this as a competition... [I'm not saying that you view it that way ~ but I'm just adding a little framework for, perhaps, the benefit of the 'bystanders']...
From my assessment... HERETOFORE... our communications stands as follows:
1. Let's get this out of the fucking way... YOU TOTALLY misread [or FAILED to read] my initial comments... In no way whatsoever do I advocate 'secularism' over 'religion'... Instead ~ I find them equally contemptible...
2. BOTH of us... It seems... View Jesus as probably 'NOT' predisposed to being in support of an ordained or institutionalized CHURCH
3. I actually view that as GNOSTIC... You, instead, define it as 'OTHER'... [It's very difficult to argue that exhorbitant delicacy on a public blog]
4. You're very academic with regards to your delineations on Council of Nicea aftermath... Unfortunately ~ I'm more ESOTERIC with regards to my interpretations of that... I'm not inclined to argue the 'letter of the law'... I'm more predisposed to argue the 'spirit of the law'... Can you see the problem here?... It's not different from any WRITTEN law... It's ALWAYS subject to interpretation... People will naturally fall on either side... There is no right or wrong...
5. The 'closest' I can possibly venture into, perhaps, YOUR WORLD, on these issues, would be to admit that I believe the gospels of Thomas & Mary [which were excluded from the Bible], to be the 'truest' accounts of the life of Jesus...
Of course... Hardly anyone ever hears about those... Similarly ~ Nobody ever hears ANY stories about WW2 except that 6,000,000 jews died in concentration camps... Just like, supposedly... 6 million were killed, like, 20 years prior, & 20 years prior to that...
Basically ~ I just kind of wonder... WHO WRITES ALL THESE FUCKING STORIES?... & what on earth motivates them to take them at face value?
Luther wrote about farting, about winning a farting contest with the devil one night if I remember right. Is it safe to line up behind him?
@Spastica Rex: "Godless communist school system."
If Obama's staff were mostly Catholic, then he'd be observing all those holidays for you. As it is, the POTUS for "We The People" is observing the religious holidays and rites of 2% of the population, that make up 50% of his staff and advisers. Exceptionalism at its finest.
Secular Humanism and Darwinian Financialism at its finest.
Good Friday? LOL!
Easter Sunday? LOL!
Perfect... You just underscored my point... No political entity should be legislating ANY of this bullshit...
I think you may be painting yourself into a corner, here...
there are no 'corners' dipshit... THERE IS NO FUCKING SPOON!