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Russia To Dispatch Long-Range Bomber Patrols Over Gulf Of Mexico, Caribbean
While the west is seemingly eager to once again restart the military escalation, if only in rhetoric for now, surrounding the east-Ukraine conflict, leading to a report that the "European Union and the U.S. will weigh further sanctions against Russia’s economy and Ukrainian separatists, after the reported movement of tanks, artillery and combat troops into eastern Ukraine", Russia has chosen to change track completely and give the US a dose of its own cooking, by bringing the military threat next to the borders of the US itself.
As cited by RIA and Bloomberg, yesterday Russian Defense Minister Shoigu said that "his country’s military will start conducting regular long-range bomber patrols along Russia’s borders and over the Arctic Ocean." It gets better: while Russia has repeatedly denied it has moved its own troops into east Ukraine contrary to western press reports over the past week, it is making it quite clear it will soon move bombers just off the coast of the US: the Gulf of Mexico and the Caribbean.
Quote Shoigu:
“In this situation, we have to maintain a military presence in the western part of the Atlantic and the eastern part of the Arctic Ocean, in the Caribbean and in the Gulf of Mexico."
RIA also adds that according to Shoigu Russian long-distance aviation flights and military preparedness has increase substantially over the past year.
So while NATO is building up its own forces along Russian borders, using even the smallest escalation in tensions over Ukraine as a pretext to send even more troops and warplanes, Russia has decided to retort in kind.
CNN adds more:
Russia plans to send long-range bombers to patrol the Gulf of Mexico and the Caribbean, the nation's defense minister said, amid escalating tensions with the West over Ukraine. The patrols would bring the flights close to the United States' territorial waters. In September, the U.S. intercepted six Russian planes, including fighter jets, near airspace off Alaska, officials said.
The plan to send the long-range bombers is in response to a growing international resentment against Russia, defense minister Sergey Shoigu said Wednesday.
In addition, he said, Russia will boost its security in Crimea, the region it annexed from Ukraine earlier this year.
"In many respects, this is connected with the situation in Ukraine, with fomentation of anti-Russian moods on the part of NATO and reinforcement of foreign military presence next to our border," Shoigu said.
"Under these conditions, the formation of full-fledged and self-sufficient forces on the Crimean peninsula is a priority task."
Shoigu said Russian long-range bombers will conduct flights along the Russian border and over the Arctic Ocean.
"In the current situation we have to maintain military presence in the western Atlantic and eastern Pacific, as well as the Caribbean and the Gulf of Mexico," he said. "Due to that, as part of the drills, Russian long-range bombers will conduct flights along Russian borders and over the Arctic Ocean."
So will sights like these become the norm soon in proximity to US shores? Probably not, but America's response to being in the same situation as Russia finds itself, would certainly be one to watch.
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bullish
Another Vlad winning move.
Those bombers are antiques, they have no military value except as annoyances to the US, who will have to spend $$$$$ to send the latest hardware up to hassle them back.
Another day another policy victory.
Yeah, and the nukes they carry are quite antiques themselves. They still go boom really hard though...
Obama has much more flexibility since the last election.....so he invited them to fly over Kansas to get a snap shot of the world's largest ball of yarn. Maybe nuke Arkansas along the way.....that place went solid red last week.
Here’s an interesting piece of useless information.
Putin has declined to attend Davos in January of 2015.
Looney
Saw a flying sub headed toward the gulf the other day, media missed it so it went unnoticed.
Good for the Russians.
You know you can hear a Bear from 40 miles away, but American international waters only end 7 miles out. So, in theory, you could be in Galveston Beach and hear Russian bombers.
pretty sure federal waters start at 9 NM out
Moar like GOOD FOR CUBA!
Good for Ruskie Bear drivers who like hookers with moar color and a foreign accent.
And expect to see a lot moar Russian submarine action in the Gulf soon too.
I hope they HONK their Horns as they pass Washington DC on the way down to the GULF hahaha
Hopefully right as Obama is about to take a Golf Swing
Red Dawn, bitchez. While it might be cute to parade bombers the US would be very tough to invade with ground troops. Rattle them sabres cocksuckers, we don't care about "political" leaders anymore. We're moving on without you.
It's not the Russian TU-95's the US needs to worry about, it's the Russian Boomers sitting just offshore in international waters... From launch to strike is under 90 seconds for Washington DC...
Yup. The old turbo-prop bombers are just for show, and a big 'ol middle finger to the O'bomb-a administration. Probably not even armed. The real threat has always been nuclear submarines, but as the saying goes, out of sight, out of mind.
BTW, you can bet that those TU95s are cheaper to fly and maintain than B-52s and really aren't at any disadvantage compared with a B-52.
This is predictable when you go meddling in the Ukraine.
Why then would Obama and his crew go and raise hell in the Ukraine.
Because the US signed a treaty with Ukraine, which was ratified by the US Senate, and so is US law, to defend the territorial integrity of Ukraine in exchange for the Ukraine giving up a massive nuclear arsenal in its possession after the breakup of the Soviet Union.
Once you make a promise, you have to keep it, or all your other promises become suspect.
And BTW, Russia also signed this treaty because they did not want a nuclear armed Ukraine. Ukraine was certified fissile material free in 2013, after which Russia promptly began to undermine Ukrainian territorial integrity, in violation of its treaty obligations.
Russia is, and has been for a 1,000 years, the aggressor in this region. This is a historical fact that cannot be argued with any seriousness.
Should the US have gotten involved in the first place? Who knows what would have happened if Ukraine retained it's vast nuclear arsenal. The US was concerned about "loose nukes" and terrorist getting hold of the weapons, and the Ukraine was not able to properly control the arsenal, and thought the better course was to get them to get rid of them. The only way for that to happen, because they were rightly afraid of Russia, was to give them a promise the US would defend them. Was that smart? We can only opine, because we can not know the outcome of any alternate scenario. But the fact remains, the US gave them a promise, that promise is in fact US law, and great powers that walk away from such promises see bad results in a whole lot of other areas.
It goes back to a warning about foreign entanglements. You should choose them wisely and sparingly. But once entangled, well, there you are.
I guess you missed the NATO expansion under Clinton, Bush and Obama?
Fabulous!
Listen BOP.
There is one solution for those NATO faggots, Putin!
I appreciate your insight. Sometimes the sarcasm, conspiracy theories, and anti-semitism are so thick on ZH it is hard to find a kernal of knowledge.
My response would be, we made treaties with Ukraine, yes, but isn't Ukraine fundementally different now than the Ukraine we made the promise to? The people in the west staged a coup, throwing out Yanukovych, the democratically elected president that the majority of the eastern Ukranians supported. It seems like the CIA was in the background pulling all sorts of strings. We have a rougue government in Ukraine, a rogue CIA, a rogue president in this country, a rogue Supreme Court, many rogue congress people.
The treaty is irelevant at this point in time, even though the U.S. is pretending we still care a lot about Ukraine. I think there is a deeper reason the U.S. is poking Russia, not sure what it is though yet...
Just because one is against the Italian mafia does not make them anti-Italian
Same thing applies to the J-mafia
The US broke the treaty by staging a coup, overthrowing the legitimate (if unpopular, at least with ZATO) government, and installing a puppet. Get your shit together, dude.
BraveSirRobin bravely bleated:
Funny how you know so much about some imaginary treaty yet can't even tell the name of it.
I know you can't possibly mean the Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances, since that was a political agreement, not a treaty.
Funny as a one-legged snake. US promises, treaties, etc., fall under US rule of law, which is selective application of law when it is profitable, toss it when not.
Waooo, that is quite thick, but US citizens do love their fantasies. Made me laugh. That is quite a delusion this US citizen tries to sell.
In these days, with US citizens exhibiting everywhere their hatred their reign could decline, with them making preemptive moves (wars) everywhere possible, one has to wish it to believe the thick lie offered previously.
Treaty, treaty? ask any Indian, USA, USA,USA!
Then the USA reneged on its promise to protect UKR's integrity by enacting a Coup...
I'm going to go with increased MIC profits & increased international bankster power though increased debt. Its all part of the broader plan. Just ask Soros.
Putin is flying closer wanting to see how wide open the Mexican border is since he cannot believe it until he sees it with his own eyes.
Yep. Further, they have standoff capability now thanks to modern cruise missiles. Don't even have to cross the beach to bomb a city 400 miles inland. Loiter time is the new gold standard.
The remaining B-52's will be being re-engined soon with geared high-bypass turbofans, for much the same reason (says a fly on the wall).
Hell, they probably have full facilities and a Starbucks on board. The aircrew can surf the web and drink coffee for days at a time while in the air.
They've been talking about re-engining the BUFF's for decades now. Believe it when I see it.
Abso-fucking-lutely!!
But, but, ... America's much vaunted self proclaimed first strike capability. Don't think the Ruskies won't use their subs or 100% convinced they ALL can be taken out?
Insanity.
200 miles. Extended from 12 decades ago.
200 miles is economic utilization zone but still international waters. I am pretty sure exclusive national waters are only to 12 miles out.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Territorial_waters
12 miles it is...
My bad. 200 is for fishing so, yes economic utilization.
Thanks for all the V V V V's Trolls
Russian Bombers in the Gulf of Mexico?
Where are they refueling? Where are they stationed?
The gulf is a long way from Russia.
They are stationed in Russia. Their range is 8000 miles. They refuel from Il-76 tankers. Basically they can fly for as long as the crew can take it.
The particular group that caused this discussion started out as a group of four and were refueled somewhere off the coast of California. Also there is a pair of TU-160 supersonic bombers, currently on a goodwill visit in Venezuela.
They may look strange relics from the Cold War but they are very effective long range surveilance and strike aircraft carrying a selection of stand-off missiles.
Fine by me. Let 'em spend the money, flying around on 6000 miles from home. Drain their cash for show.
Just more shukkin' & Jivin' by putin. So what?
More importantly,
This is a terrific opportunity for the US defense industry to field test all those highly-classified, ultra top-secret energy weapons they've been working on for 20 years.
Pretty awesome. They travel light speed (of course. they're light) and deliver various types of focused energy up to several miles away (or up). Be it microwaves or laser or whatever.
Here's a sample of what's going on. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awsQs4ct0c4&feature=player_detailpage
How unfortunate when those bombers' electronics suddenly melt at 50,000 feet. Or one of the engines "accidentally" explodes.
With the well-known safety record of russian millitary equipment, not to mention, that 6-sigma quality control, it'll be a good show.
Missiles and dogfights are soooooooo 90's
That's not what they want to hear...
just saying...
Nahhh. Fuck that fancy energy weapon shit
BRING BACK THE B-58 HUSTLER NOW!!
This is all ha-ha bullshit.
I want to congratulate all the Putin lovers on ZH on their mans great victory. You know who you are, attracted to a real man, a manly man. A bare chested, take on the world kind of a guy. Don't get your undergarments too moist. Your boy is cruising for a fall.
Yes, well, thats probably why those seventies bombers are flying there.
Russia does not have a shortage of those Tu-95, nor brave souls willing to fly them around the globe neither.
Its a typical aggressive ELINT mission, listen, register frequencies, penetrate the airspace until the adversary is forced to scramble expensive jets to escort you out.
And if you die in process, well, soldiers fate, at least you will lie in warm seas frequented by naked ladies and not in permafrost near Ufa.
Permafrost near UFA. WHat the heck. For your information there is no permafrost in or near UFA.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13VKYkQMcoA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=13VKYkQMcoA#t=361
Here is what near Ufa looks like...
Plus you dont have broad leafed trees in permafrost regions. The trees in the middle and southern Urals are broad leaf. You may be right about areas around the northern Urals having some permafrost but not in the South where UFA is located.
American knowledge of geography - is a traditional occasion for humor and jokes in the world.
If you send the US Army to Ufa without their GPS, then after 40 years, they would be somewhere in Kazakhstan or Mongolia. LOL
Well he did better than most westerners. He knew about the city of Ufa. Its tough to know soil characteristics that well unless one really is interested in a particular region so he still gets high marks.
He knew there was city named UFA
but appears nothing about it
Energy weapons you say? Bombers suddenly melt? Will be interesting to see for sure.
http://www.voltairenet.org/article185860.html
After 911 they are saving them to take out Ebola and save the Mericun people.
I seriously doubt those deployed planes will be travelling with any ordanance whatsoever , except maybe a 'FUCK YOU OBAMA' flag.....
To the sheeps, its not that obvious why the stock markets keep surging to all time highs each day its open, but it must be obvious that the once great usa has lost its global dominance in world matters. America's sad downfall under obama was planned from the start and things are finally coming to steam of the start of a new world order where the us cannot push other nations around anymore. Get use to it.
Yeah everything was planed from the start, it has nothing to do with complacency, taking things for granted, loss of integrity, a belief in inherent superiority, exceptionalism and downright hubris. Nothing to do with the natural path of all empires, that have fallen into decadence, degeneration and disintegration. Nope, the US is different, the only way for the US to be brought down was with a conspiracy plan from within(note the idea of US exeptionalism right there). US is different, no way it would go down the path of the Roman Empire, has to be something else. US is exceptional after all.
Get it through your heads, Obama and the rest of the assclowns are a symptom not the cause. Once eternal vigilance went to sleep, assuming it was ever awake, the rest naturally followed. Stop chasing ghosts here, if you want to be mad at someone over all this be mad at the idiot with no brains and a vote. There is plenty of them out there.
"To the Sheeps" ????????? You being the all seeing?
This loss of global dominance started under Obama? Boom! just like that? Off a cliff?
The banking cartel is an international criminal organization that has no "citizenry" They belong only to themselves. They worship only money and money alone. They mind everyone elses' business because they have no business or nation of their own to mind. Nations are to be manipulated to increase the cartel wealth.
Well they certainly don't make them like they used to. You really got your money's worth back then, none of this cheap plastic crap.
Russian bombers operate in a different way. They don't drop bombs. Instead, they drop cruise missiles, so they can effectively hit a target 3000 miles away.
Anyway, why do you think they start these strategic patrols? Pack some electronic warefare equipment on those bombers, and you will be able to collect a ton of useful information (radar station frequencies and locations, communication channels, etc etc.)
Also, there is something that Tyler missed. Few months ago Putin paid a visit to few latin american countries. On that trip, Russia wrote off some 90% of cuban debt. What does he get in exchange of that move? Simple, Russia will restart the Lourdes SIGINT station in Cuba. Yes, a spy station few hundred miles away from the US.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/16/russia-reopening-spy-base-c...
I don't think he wants Havana as much as we want Kiev.
But WTF..
Oh, and I do not think he really wants the Soviet Union back except for our Soviet NATO efforts.
SIGINT station in Cuba? What "intelligence" can the Russian possibly collect from the Wal Mart EBT/WIC/Food Stamps bankrupt police state at this point? Reruns of Honey Boo Boo or the Kardashian sluts show?
Enough data to disrupt banking operations for a start. Just for a start.
To quote a Russian General 'about 40% of Russia's ELINT'. No-one would describe their monitoring equipment as 'third' world. When they left the site 14 years ago it took quite a few plane loads to get their gear out. There is a good chance that not everything actually left.
The Chinese have major listening posts on Cuba as well. THe US has no monopoly in this activity.
Maybe we can respond in-kind to what the Russians did to us back in April of this year:
"On 10 April 2014, the USS Donald Cook entered the waters of the Black Sea and on 12 April a Russian Su-24 tactical bomber flew over the vessel triggering an incident that, according to several media reports, completely demoralized its crew, so much so that the Pentagon issued a protest [1]."
"As the Russian jet approached the US vessel, the electronic device disabled all radars, control circuits, systems, information transmission, etc. on board the US destroyer."
http://www.voltairenet.org/article185860.html
It would seem like our 4th generation guided missile destroyers are also antiques!
So I am a firm believer in Alt. Media outlets, but this story was never confirmed.
While I would love for it to be true, I just don't see the evidence for it being accurate, except for a few unnamed people who refused to be named and requested to remain anon.
Don't you think, that it can never be confirmed, as that would mean most of the hardware of amerikan terrorists is useless? They know that, ruskies and amerikans, but as in malaysian plane crash, they keep it quiet. Give it some time. Russians are playing a long game, patience is essential to win this chess game.
What is confirmed is that the boat went to port in Romania and was replaced.
I talk to a Russian guy on Twitter who told me this story months ago. He claimed that after the event the ship sailed into some port (which I forget the name of) and the sailors there started talking about what had happened and the locals spread the news. He reckoned he heard it via one person removed.
This was before any media stories appeared anywhere. So personally, I think there may be some truth to it.
Look at how corrupt the procurement process is. The F-35 is junk. The guy who helped co-design the F-15 and A-10 and who worked on the F-15 has said so. The wings are too small, it is overweight, the software still is not done, it is incredibly delicate to any ground fire, it is a gas hog, it cannot turn and the list goes on.
One of the largest (aipac) defense contractor owners is and was a big supporter of Obama and LBJ. The events leading up to JFK being whacked and their incredibly overpriced plane of the era are very "curious." It was a plane looking for a war. Lots of defense contractors in Texas at the time wanted a war. LBJ wanted what he always wanted - more and more money and power.
Another problem for American weapons is Russian programmers. The USA uses H1Bs etc while the Russians hire their best programmers. Weaponry is all about software now and missiles.
I am thinking the Russians may have used some portable EMP against the USS Donald Cook.
Your comments are rather incoherrent. F35 is not junk but it is a hotch potch overpriced political plane. Its a jack of all trades and master of none and the politicians designed it to work for the Navy, Air Force and Marines but by so doing is not perfect for any of them. The B version is just stupid and should never have been built and the C (Navy) version is not ideal for the Navy. The A (Air Force) version is to replace the F16 as a multi-purpose jet. Remember F16 with its small wings and vulnerability to ground fire isnt as rugged as the A10, nor is the F16 as dominant as the F15C as a fighter or capable as F15E as a bomber. But the cost of an F16 to buy and operate is half that of the F15. As a USAF general put it to me 'the choice is not between an F15 and an F16, its a F15 or 2 F16s. Most days 2 F16s are more useful to me than one F15." The F35 fails because it is too expensive for the F16 replacement role. A big reason for it being too expensive is the politicians demand for one jet to do too many different roles. There should have been an Air Force jet and a different Navy jet and the Marines should dump their aircraft and get air support from Navy and USAF - there's a big cost saver!
You say Weaponry is all about software now and missiles. The F35 is a software driven aircraft and the cockpit info suite is a generation ahead of F22 or Typhoon or anything else flying. Its also designed to be easily upgradable. Every pilot can reconfigure the displays as and when he wants. On ingress bringing up air to air displays then flicking to bombing then flicking to defensive if attacked. The heart of the F35 is the software and pilot displays. The jet can be a mini-Awacs if needed. But it is still too expensive for what it is.
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Don't forget their value for gathering SigInt and Optical Intel.
Those bombers are also VERY high profile, meaning visible to radar and the engines are LOUD. I've heard that escort pilots used to complain about the noise...
We are ALL going to pay for this "chest puffing" shit...
Hedge accordingly.
Are you ready for the THIRD WORLD WAR!?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DI7pPVJTeSY
Curious timing coming immediately after the Chinese made obamy look like a wimp relegating it to the wives club. Wonder what imaginary red line the spineless incompetent arrogant narcissistic illegal indonesian kenyan alien muslim pathological liar in chief fudge packet will draw now.
Nikita would be so proud!
BECAUSE OBAMA!
Da!
I will Barry you.
-Nikita
+ Bazillion
OMG! The irony of the truth....
The murky past, political affiliations..... the Manchurian Candidate
Alger Hiss Redux.
++1000 there TD!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mm0yQg1hS_w
IT CAME TRUE!!
Nikita was certainly right about one thing. Communism would outlast capitalism. The US is almost fully communist now. I wonder who really 'won' the cold war?
"The US is almost fully communist now."
The US State, nowadays, represents the exact opposite of communism. I wish you Americans learnt your definitions and went by something else than Pavlovian reactions. Why can't you ever bloody learn something instead of using words you don't even know the meaning of?
Communism, fascism. Either way, the US is a whole fuck of a lot closer to being a fully commie nation than it has ever been to being fully capitalist. It's all totalitarian statism to me. Fuckin' semantics, man.
Nobody could have foreseen this.
AMERICA SHOULD TAKE ONE FOR THE TEAM!!
. Barry O.
Armstrong writes nov 19/20 as a heads up
Yeah and only $75 to get the full scoop...
Just offer him an ounce of silver.....trust me.....he'll take it.
Spent it on a new lower just in case he's right
Now chance of US-Russia war increases. Neocons may get more war as they always wanted:
Dozens of “near miss” incidents bring NATO and Russia to brink of war
By Alex Lantier11 November 2014
According to a report published yesterday by the London-based European Leadership Network think tank (ELN), there have been at least 40 “near misses” in which the Russian military and NATO forces, sent to Eastern Europe following last February’s far-right, NATO-backed putsch in Kiev, came close to military conflict.
The ELN writes that NATO-Russian relations since March 2014, have been in “a situation in which mistrust, fear, and shortened leadership decision times characterize a volatile stand-off between a nuclear-armed state and a nuclear-armed alliance.” The report continues: “To perpetuate that reality in the circumstances described in this report is risky at best. At worst, it could prove catastrophic.”
http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2014/11/11/nato-n11.html
How about observing that fucking Progressives are in charge?
Constitutional conservatives do not mess around in the affairs of other nations, only criminal progressives do that shit.
Dude you smell like obamatron assclown a little bit here.
Grimaldus
You guys need to revise what a NeoCons is. They are controlled by the zoligarchs. It includes Repukes like McCain, Rubio, Graham, Corker and others while the Democrats NeoCons are pretty much all of them especially the dual citizens.
The Repub voters sent one of their few dual citizens packing in that vile POS Cantor.
Carlin was right that the Mil is kinda retarded in some ways. For example... A "near miss" is NOT a "miss", as they pretend. Here's a refresher for DOD and MSM dolts:
A "Near miss" is a Hit!
A "Near hit" is a Miss!
Fucking morons!
The DOD -- be all you can be. [Face palm]
Obozo just spat out his gum reading that
you have that partially right, Obango just spat out Reggies cum reading that.
What's good for the goose...
How much of this is scripted? All the billionaire oligarchs have their role to play in the gestation of the NWO.
When someone asks you if you want war, just say, "No."
Expect more red... You make too much sense and it doesn't fit in with present theme of: Cold Warrior - Winter's a Bitch.
Most ppl have too much vested in SQUO to consider any "alternative" realities that don't fit in the frame they have been given (and told adamantly "it's a good frame").
So they continue on their merry way to hell in bucket.
Same as it ever fucking was.
Hmmmm....another good reason to leave Florida. MacDill Air Force Base, i.e. SOCOM (Special Operations Command) and CENTCOM (Central Command) just 10 miles away.
Shit, it wouldn't surprise me a bit to find out that those Bear Bombers refuel at Hurlburt Field.
Stranger things have happend.
The MIC and NeoCons woke up with wood to that headline. Naturally the shadow government's provocations in Ukraine and trying to push NATO right up to the Russian border had nothing to do with this did it?
Can all of these macho, war glorifying fucks go to the Moon and fight each other until one is standing, then we kill his ass? Then maybe the productive people of this planet can get on with living without these assholes trashing the place on a regular basis.
PROGRESSIVES are in charge dude. Progressives are far bloodier than anyone else and are the ones getting woodies. Bloody handed bitch Hillary Clinton destroyed Libya recently if you care to remember. Apparently you do not and why is that?
Check the murder by government numbers and it aint constitutional conservatives responsible.
http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/MURDER.HTM
Progressives sit on the highest throne of corpses bar none. Progressives froth at the mouth to be able to murder their own babies. Malaria was almost wiped out completely in the entire world until progressive eco-murderers used lies to ban DDT and now untold tens of millions have died and a million more every year die to appease progressive blood lust.
Now the progressive eco murderers war on hydrocarbons threatens the only thing to ever improve the quality of life for billions of the world poor people--cheap energy.
A neo-con is not a constitutional conservative at all, but a PROGRESSIVE.
Who has been bombed more countries than anyone else? Obomber is who, the super criminal marxprog, mentored by progressive hero Bill Ayers who still wants 25 million Americans dead to create his bloody marxprog utopia.
Constitutional conservatives (real ones) do not interfere in the affairs of other sovereign nations, they just do good business with them. We should be doing business with the Russians instead of this twisted and criminal progressive death insanity.
Get your shit straight dude, try shake off the progressive obamatron assclown programming if you can.
Grimaldus
Uh...yeah. Maybe you should open the door to your tightly sealed ideological cave and look around a little bit. It might help you get out of the fantasy you are living in a little bit.
Remember, there's a murderous progressive right around every corner looking to kill you and it's ALL planned out, every fricking thing that happens. Every single event, is planned by progressives to get you.
Hey you are right, about 80% of the prison population are progressive. Appreciate the tip.
Progressive tyranny is real pal and their propaganda is very good. Oh wait....., you thought they were the peoples champions or something, didn't you?
Grimaldus
That should hopefully make them think twice about pushing so close to Russia. Putin is saying, this is what it feels like when the nukes are but a short distance away. No time for the DC aholes to run to their shelters before the big BANG>
Long range bomber patrols must use a lot of aviation fuel. Good thing the US and Saudis have dropped oil prices, in order to hurt -- Russia???
Thanks, insane power hungry assholes brzezinski, Kissinger, Bush, Bush and dope addled homo imbecile "Obama" ( whatever your real name is). Thanks, assholes!
Message sent, but I don't know if they recieved it.
Former US Secretary of State Henry Kissinger has given a chilling assessment of a new geopolitical situation taking shape amid the Ukrainian crisis, warning of a possible new Cold War and calling the West’s approach to the crisis a “fatal mistake.”
http://rt.com/news/203795-kissinger-warns-cold-war/
For once I believe that Murderous, World's most wanted War Criminal Scum Fuck.
I would think they would base out of Venezuela for the Caribbean flights, although I suppose they have plenty of fuel to do the airborne refueling thing. Gonna need a second or third flight crew if they're coming from mother russia though...
Yes and put a bunch more hours on those aging relics...then when they need them the most..they will fail....the Gulf is a logistics nightmare for the Russians.....they would be way out of their comfort zone going there...
They will need to base them in Cuba.
Which could mean another 1962 Crisis.
Only this time, Bath House will surrender Florida.
They are doing what they were doing in the cold war. Same exact thing. Why is this news?
It's hard work being a lame duck president. Quack.
Small boys with Big toys. Nukes will never be used. Just a big game. I've pondered this for many decades. There's not a soul on earth that will start all out obliteration. Observing all the dick wavers is mildly entertaining. but,
All the testosterone gets tiring.
"Nukes will never be used". Hiroshima, uranium fission bomb: dropped from the Enola Gay. Nagasaki: Plutonium fission implosion bomb, dropped from Bockscar. Setting us up for the next round: Bikini Atoll, hydrogen fusion bomb: dropped by Dave's Dream. Since then, 2,474 nuclear tests by nuclear powers. Will never be used, eh? Don't count on it.
The Russians hold the upper card. They can fly these cheap to maintain and still effective propeller planes for pennies on the dollar of what we have to spend. Yes, we have all this really cool super expensive hardware that has put us in debt for generations, but the Russians were in space first. It would be a major mistake to underestimate their capabilities. And for God's sake, why can't we just leave these people alone? We brought this to our shores. Get this idiot out of the White House and stop the insanity!
I agree. I hear people who think it a foregone conclusion that we can just waltz into Russia and be done in a few days. Hit all the important targets and just take over. The delusions these people live under is frightening...
Costs, and assymetric response bitchez.
Im sure Cuba wouldnt mind hosting a half dozen bombers and crews; for the right price.
Keep voting democrat!
that has nothing to do with it...Left vs Right is just a smokescreen. They're all the same scumbags behind the scenes working against us.
It's the NWO, the banksters, the puppet scumbag politicians VS. We The People
the Right/Left paradigm is just a divide and conquer tactic to keep the sheeple fighting with each other.
herp derp patriot!
My first bumper sticker: 'You Get What You Vote For'
Latest bumper sticker: 'You Have A Vote, But Not A Choice'
We're past critical mass now. The show's about to start. We're staffed by putz's on both sides, little chance of them doing the right thing. Check your history books.
Your sentence is 1 word too long.
My bags are packed, and I am ready to go.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fa3h3pnhg8s
When one studies the totality of human history, it is simply astonishing how many of the species worst episodes were initiated by a small dick man. The gods have a sick sense of humor.
or by those with a chopped dick.
Most of humanity are loving, family oriented good souls who just want to spend time in peace. It's the nation builders and statists that will render us a dead species.
So true.Only the elites are really affected by who rules the roost .That's why they send you to fight to the death.
For the rest, whoever is in charge, they will see you just about get by so you can labour, consume and fight.
If the regime is changed, the elites, however , are screwed.
Statistically speaking, and on the average, Obama, being half and half, should be at exactly 6.5 inches, I suppose puppets can be any length whatsoever...
Excellent news ! It will be necessary to cancel all entitlement programs in order to redirect that wasted money into defense - YIPEE!!!
Bullish!
Buy MIC stocks NOW!
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owebomba is pleased
Thanks Barry MIC. Thanks for poking em. Thanks for messing around in their backyard. Hells bells, even in 9th grade history they taught us about Russia and the Crimea and how important it was to them.
Do you suppose Russia and China have figured out how easy it would be to wreck the US? Just a few cruise missiles (hell conventional) coming down on a few select cities and all hell breaks loose. It would never be the same here. We'd unravel. Please no horseshit about Americans coming together and patriotic rah rah.
I dont think we have any idea what we're getting ourselves into. The last time there was chaos in North America was Civil War I. For the Russians it was 1941-1945 and they lost @20 million. So we're trying to surround them and they suffered catastrophe during WWII and we're suprised there's bombers off the coast of Florida and California?
"And that is why, with pen and phone, I will control the intertubes, so no information can get to the Russians."
True. Already 9/11 pretty much wrecked democracy and drove the government to crazy inappropriate reactions which will backfire for a generation.
Its so weird to read how americans despise themselves and greet putkin planes
I don't understand the reason for doing this. Are the Russians aware that bombers are very easily shot down by 40 year old missiles?
Absolutely! they will be shot down and go down in flames and hundreds of thousands of pieces raining to the ground, the crews most likely being killed. They will have been shot down by the most sophisticated aircraft and weapons systems the world has ever seen, shot down by the best trained, dedicated pilots in the world, second to none. Those planes will be shot down. But most will be shot down after their payloads are released.
There in lies the crux of the mentality of the Russian compared to the American. The Russians won WWII. They sacrificed 25 million soldiers and another 50 million wounded. That was half of the entire country. The Russians are willing to go all the way. All America has is superior tech. That's really it. Nukes would render everything fucked so let's hope that does not get bandied about, but a conventional war and you would be surprised at just how willing they are to defend themselves and they see this whole thing as defense. As for planes being shot down, it's the fucking submarines to worry about. I am sure there are some parked off of each shore.
A fascinating story not known by many...
" Before you read the shocking revelations from Major Jordan's Diaries about the billions of dollars, airplanes, tanks, munitions, foodstuffs, whole factories, blueprints and material for building the Atomic Bomb, personal luxuries for despotic Bolshevik Talmudic Communist rulers, as well as the paper and plates enabling them to print U.S. Federal Reserve Notes -- all this sent to the U.S.S.R. from UN Depot No 8, Newark, N.J., U.S.A., -- let us set the scene."
Where did the Soviet Union get the uranium for the bombs...?? Read on, friend!
http://www.sweetliberty.org/issues/wars/jordan/01.html
In US military doctrine has the notion of "unacceptable losses".
In the Russian military doctrine there is no such notion. Any very big losses is acceptable, if need to execute the order. How to speak Russians: If we fight, then we will fight to the last breath and to the last drop of blood.
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The new main threat to "the west" ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R-29RMU2_Layner
"While the west is seemingly eager to once again restart the military escalation, if only in rhetoric for now, surrounding the east-Ukraine conflict"
Wait, so Putin regime sends it's tanks, soldiers, other military equipment to east Ukraine, attacks Ukranians, they ask for international help to fight back occupation force and West are escalating "conflict" in Ukraine?
P.S. Never have I heard from Putin lovers their official version of how those so called "seperatists" get their colons of tanks, soldiers, GRADs, etc. They never ends... just keep coming more and more. And that all simply magiclly appears from nowhere in such small teritory (look at conflict teritory in east of Ukraine http://liveuamap.com/ )
one theory suggest they are using museum exponats and war tropheys, but they would have ran out of stock in early july
The original armored columns that were sent into Slavansk, surrendered all their armor and firing pins. On video. On youtube. Look it up.
yep, even recent Youtube showed Donbass fighters using pre WWII antitank gun
The Warsaw Pact countries had huge depots of equipment prepostioned ready for soldiers to arrive at time of war. These sites are littered across UKraine. It is highly posible that Kiev did not know where there all were, but Moscow did. This allowed the Seperatists to not only use very large numbers of captured Ukrainian Army equipment but to plunder these stores as well. The delay in getting this plundered gear in a usuable state could explain why it took a while to get it into action.
In addition newer stuff has been going over the border from Russia, either bought or loaned. Very little if any current Russian Army armour has been photographed in Ukraine most of it seems to be what they would regard as obsolete. Lots of consumables especially MANPADs and logistics support as well.
The Warsaw Pact countries had huge depots of equipment prepostioned ready for soldiers to arrive at time of war. These sites are littered across UKraine. It is highly posible that Kiev did not know where there all were, but Moscow did. This allowed the Seperatists to not only use very large numbers of captured Ukrainian Army equipment but to plunder these stores as well. The delay in getting this plundered gear in a usuable state could explain why it took a while to get it into action.
In addition newer stuff has been going over the border from Russia, either bought or loaned. Very little if any current Russian Army armour has been photographed in Ukraine most of it seems to be what they would regard as obsolete. Lots of consumables especially MANPADs and logistics support as well.
The US coup didn't take into account how important the Crimea is to Putin/Russia. The US is lucky the Russians didn't simply roll their tanks into Kiev the next day.
I do feel bad for the Ukrainians caught in the middle though... but I don't think Obama or Putin care about the victims at all.
Never have I heard from Putin lovers their official version of how those so called "seperatists" get their colons of tanks, soldiers, GRADs, etc.
good question...but I've been too occupied with how ISIS gets their colons of munitions to think about it.
viedoklis_lv. You omit to mention who started the Ukraine conflict.
Was it Russia? No.
Was it the USG, CIA, EU and NATO? Yes.
All actions taken by Russia are a response to that.
Conflict started when Ukranians went into streets and demanded to corupt president which was Putins puppet to step down but he refused. Conflict escalated when he run to his papa in Russia and Ukranian transitional goverment canceled russian language as official languagein Ukraine. Then many russians where angry and went out into streets - that is what Putin and his agents was working on and wanted to gain. From there it started to militarize by little green man in Crimea and its occupation till open invasion in east Ukraine. That happen because many Ukranians where sick of Russia rulein Ukraine and thought EU will fix their life and country (as we know that would not happen - but they think that way).
Incredible. Latvian troll viedorklis can't tell words without sinking into cheap propaganda. Stupid as stupid, can only be accepted by people who are not interested in facts but in ganging around lies.
When somebody asks you to believe a lie while giving it away explicitly as a lie, it is a call for submission. Kievan Yatzi propaganda is all about submission, submission.