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“We Are Now In The Longest Continuous Period of War In American History”
Pulitzer-prize winning reporter James Risen reminds us:
We are now in the longest continuous period of war in American history. And yet there is remarkably little debate about it.
Many Americans assume “because 9/11″.
But regime change in Iraq, Lybia, Syria and Afganistan (and see this) was planned before 9/11.
Let’s take Iraq, for example. Former CIA director George Tenet said that the White House wanted to invade Iraq long before 9/11, and inserted “crap” in its justifications for invading Iraq. Former Treasury Secretary Paul O’Neill – who sat on the National Security Council – also says that Bush planned the Iraq war before 9/11. Top British officials say that the U.S. discussed Iraq regime change even before Bush took office. And in 2000, Cheney said a Bush administration might “have to take military action to forcibly remove Saddam from power.”
Cheney apparently even made Iraqi’s oil fields a national security priority before 9/11. And the Sunday Herald reported: “Five months before September 11, the US advocated using force against Iraq … to secure control of its oil.” (remember that Alan Greenspan, John McCain, George W. Bush, Sarah Palin, a high-level National Security Council officer and others all say that the Iraq war was really about oil.)
Indeed, we’ve seen it all before.
We explained last year:
We are in the middle of a perpetual series of wars. See this, this, this and this.
As just one example, in 2010 the war in Afghanistan became the longest war in U.S. history.
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Why is the war of terror being waged indefinitely?
Many have said that “war is the health of the state”, and Thomas Paine wrote in the Rights of Man:
In reviewing the history of the English Government, its wars and its taxes, a bystander, not blinded by prejudice, nor warped by interest, would declare, that taxes were not raised to carry on wars, but that wars were raised to carry on taxes.
George Washington – in his farewell address of 1796 – said:
Overgrown military establishments are under any form of government inauspicious to liberty.
James Madison said:
In time of actual war, great discretionary powers are constantly given to the Executive Magistrate. Constant apprehension of War, has the same tendency to render the head too large for the body. A standing military force, with an overgrown Executive will not long be safe companions to liberty. The means of defence against foreign danger, have been always the instruments of tyranny at home. Among the Romans it was a standing maxim to excite a war, whenever a revolt was apprehended. Throughout all Europe, the armies kept up under the pretext of defending, have enslaved the people.
Madison also noted that never-ending war tends to destroy both liberty and prosperity:
Of all the enemies to public liberty war is, perhaps, the most to be dreaded, because it comprises and develops the germ of every other. War is the parent of armies; from these proceed debts and taxes; and armies, and debts, and taxes are the known instruments for bringing the many under the domination of the few. In war, too, the discretionary power of the Executive is extended; its influence in dealing out offices, honors, and emoluments is multiplied: and all the means of seducing the minds, are added to those of subduing the force, of the people. The same malignant aspect in republicanism may be traced in the inequality of fortunes, and the opportunities of fraud, growing out of a state of war, and in the degeneracy of manners and of morals, engendered by both. No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare.
Greenwald noted in October:
As the Founders all recognized, nothing vests elites with power – and profit – more than a state of war. That is why there were supposed to be substantial barriers to having them start and continue – the need for a Congressional declaration, the constitutional bar on funding the military for more than two years at a time, the prohibition on standing armies, etc. Here is how John Jay put it in Federalist No 4:
“It is too true, however disgraceful it may be to human nature, that nations in general will make war whenever they have a prospect of getting anything by it; nay, absolute monarchs will often make war when their nations are to get nothing by it, but for the purposes and objects merely personal, such as thirst for military glory, revenge for personal affronts, ambition, or private compacts to aggrandize or support their particular families or partisans. These and a variety of other motives, which affect only the mind of the sovereign, often lead him to engage in wars not sanctified by justice or the voice and interests of his people.”
In sum, there are factions in many governments that crave a state of endless war because that is when power is least constrained and profit most abundant.
Indeed, top American military officials and national defense experts say that our specific actions in the “war on terror” are creating more terrorists and more war.
As Greenwald points out today, the endless nature of the war on terror is a feature, not a bug:
There’s a good reason US officials are assuming the “War on Terror” will persist indefinitely: namely, their actions ensure that this occurs.
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There’s no question that this “war” will continue indefinitely. There is no question that US actions are the cause of that, the gasoline that fuels the fire. The only question – and it’s becoming less of a question for me all the time – is whether this endless war is the intended result of US actions or just an unwanted miscalculation.
It’s increasingly hard to make the case that it’s the latter. The US has long known, and its own studies have emphatically concluded, that “terrorism” is motivated not by a “hatred of our freedoms” but by US policy and aggression in the Muslim world. This causal connection is not news to the US government. Despite this – or, more accurately, because of it – they continue with these policies.
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There is zero reason for US officials to want an end to the war on terror, and numerous and significant reasons why they would want it to continue. It’s always been the case that the power of political officials is at its greatest, its most unrestrained, in a state of war. Cicero, two thousand years ago, warned that “In times of war, the law falls silent” (Inter arma enim silent leges).
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If you were a US leader, or an official of the National Security State, or a beneficiary of the private military and surveillance industries, why would you possibly want the war on terror to end? That would be the worst thing that could happen. It’s that war that generates limitless power, impenetrable secrecy, an unquestioning citizenry, and massive profit.
Just this week, a federal judge ruled that the Obama administration need not respond to the New York Times and the ACLU’s mere request to disclose the government’s legal rationale for why the President believes he can target US citizens for assassination without due process. Even while recognizing how perverse her own ruling was – “The Alice-in-Wonderland nature of this pronouncement is not lost on me” and it imposes “a veritable Catch-22″ – the federal judge nonetheless explained that federal courts have constructed such a protective shield around the US government in the name of terrorism that it amounts to an unfettered license to violate even the most basic rights: “I can find no way around the thicket of laws and precedents that effectively allow the executive branch of our government to proclaim as perfectly lawful certain actions that seem on their face incompatible with our Constitution and laws while keeping the reasons for their conclusion a secret” (emphasis added).
Why would anyone in the US government or its owners have any interest in putting an end to this sham bonanza of power and profit called “the war on terror”? Johnson is right that there must be an end to this war imminently, and Maddow is right that the failure to do so will render all the due-process-free and lawless killing and imprisoning and invading and bombing morally indefensible and historically unforgivable.
But the notion that the US government is even entertaining putting an end to any of this is a pipe dream, and the belief that they even want to is fantasy. They’re preparing for more endless war; their actions are fueling that war; and they continue to reap untold benefits from its continuation. Only outside compulsion, from citizens, can make an end to all of this possible.
Indeed, the American government has directly been supporting Al Qaeda and other terrorist groups for the last decade. See this, this, this, this and this.
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And the American government lies – and even kills its own – to justify new wars.
Top American economists say that endless war has ruined our economy. It benefits a handful of elites, while levying a tax on the vast majority of Americans.
Congress members – part of the super-elite which has made money hand over fist during this economic downturn – are heavily invested in the war industry, and routinely trade on inside information … perhaps even including planned military actions.
No wonder the American government is making the state of war permanent, and planning to unleash new, widespread wars in the near future.
Postscript: Under Bush, it was the “war on terror”. Obama has re-branded the perpetual fighting as “humanitarian war”.
But - underneath the ever-changing marketing and branding campaign – it’s really just the good ‘ole military-industrial-and-banking complex consolidating their power and making money hand over fist.
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Saddam's mistake was trying to sell oil for Euros. Unfortunately, he discovered the petrodollar was backed by bombs and bullets.
I rarely post links to videos, but this was quite interesting and pertinent to the article. (I think it was Imaanalsphincter who posted the link earlier in another article)
All Wars Are Banker's Wars
Where does Crime end and War begin?
We are not necessarily at war unless you view the crimes committed so far as "war", which for the most part is intellectually disingenuous.
Even 9/11 was a horrendous crime, but not a war.
Congress has not declared it so, thus, we can not be at war.
“I can find no way around the thicket of laws and precedents that effectively allow the executive branch of our government to proclaim as perfectly lawful certain actions that seem on their face incompatible with our Constitution and laws while keeping the reasons for their conclusion a secret"
Here's a way around this "thicket" she speaks of... STRIKE THE LAWS DOWN IF THEY'RE UNCONSTITUTIONAL YOU STUPID CUNT! YOU'RE A JUDGE! DO YOUR FUCKING JOB!
http://ericmargolis.com/2014/11/none-dare-call-it-a-defeat/
NONE DARE CALL IT A DEFEAT
November 1, 2014
“Lord of our far-flung battle-line,
Beneath whose awful Hand we hold
Dominion over palm and pine—
Lord God of Hosts, be with us yet,
Lest we forget—lest we forget!
Far-called, our navies melt away;
On dune and headland sinks the fire:
Lo, all our pomp of yesterday
Is one with Nineveh and Tyre!
Judge of the Nations, spare us yet,
Lest we forget—lest we forget!”
Rudyard Kipling “Recessional”
The last British soldiers were airlifted out of Afghanistan last week, marking the sorry end of Britain’s fourth failed invasion of Afghanistan. With them went the last detachment of US Marines in Helmand.
Well has Afghanistan earned its title, “Graveyard of Empires.”
To be more precise, this honor belongs to Afghanistan’s Pashtun (or Pathan) mountain tribes, who bend their knees for no man and take pride in war.
In my book, “War at the Top of the World,” I called Pashtun “the bravest men on earth.” Later, I would add the fierce Chechen to that illustrious fraternity.
The old imperialists are gone, but the occupation of Afghanistan continues. The new regime in Kabul just installed by Washington to replace uncooperative former ally Hamid Karzai, rushed to sign an “agreement” allowing the United States to keep some 10,000 soldiers in Afghanistan for years. This garrison will be exempt from all Afghan laws.
However, there’s much more to this arrangement. The US combat troops, tactfully labeled “trainers” or “counter-terrorist forces,” are too few in number to dominate all Afghanistan. Their task is to defend Kabul’s sock puppet government from its own people and to defend the all-important US Bagram airbase.
Washington clearly plans to continue ruling Afghanistan and Iraq the same way that the British Empire did. Small numbers of British troops garrisoned the capital; white officers led the native mercenary army. But Britain’s real power was exercised by RAF units based in Iraq and Northwest Frontier Province.
Any native “disturbance” would be bombed and strafed by the RAF. In the 1920’s, Winston Churchill authorized RAF to use poison gas bombs against restive Pashtun and Kurdish tribesmen. Ironically, seven decades later I discovered British scientists who had been sent by HM government to Iraq to build germ weapons for Saddam Hussein to use against Iran.
Similarly, the “Pax Americana” will be enforced by US airpower based at Bagram. US warplanes flying from Bagram, Qatar, and aircraft carriers on 24 hour call have been the only force keeping the Pashtun movement Taliban at bay. Without intense employment of US air power, western occupation forces, like the Imperial British armies before them, would have been driven
from Afghanistan.
Without US air power, garrison troops and large numbers of “civilian contractors” and old-fashioned mercenaries the Kabul puppet regime would soon be swept away. Afghanistan’s government army is likely to collapse as quickly as Iraq’s did before ISIS. Most of southern Afghanistan would declare for Taliban which, however harsh, is the nation’s only authentic political movement apart from the Tajik and Uzbek Communists in the north.
The US garrison in Kabul will continue to make Afghanistan safe for opium, which is the base for heroin. Americans have simply turned a blind eye to their ownership if the world’s top producer of heroin.
As Washington orates about the so-called War on Drugs, Afghan opium production rose in 2013 from $2 billion to $3 billion. The UN says over 500,000 acres of land in Afghanistan are now devoted to the opium poppy – right under the eyes of the US garrison.
While US-installed rulers in Kabul pay lip service to opium eradication, the rural warlords who support them, and receive stipends from CIA, continue to grow rich on the opium trade. Trying to blame Taliban for the scourge of opium is dishonest: when Taliban was in power it eradicated almost all of the nation’s opium production, reported he UN Drug Agency, except in the region controlled by the Communist Northern Alliance – which today shares power in Kabul.
When the full history of the Afghan war is finally written, CIA’s involvement in that nation’s drug trade will become a notorious episode. French intelligence became deeply involved in the Laotian opium trade to pay its Lao mercenaries. The US was up to its ears with its Contra allies in the Central American cocaine trade.
Now, US intelligence has besmirched its name once again aiding and abetting Afghan drug lords so as to supposedly wage war on “terrorists.” In dirt-poor Afghanistan, there are only two sources of income: money from Washington, and from narcotics. The collusion of senior members of government, military and police is necessary to export tons of opium to either Pakistan, Central Asia or Russia – where morphine addiction is now a major epidemic.
Adding to this shameful record, the US Congressional auditor for Special Reconstruction of Afghanistan just reported that much of the $104 billion appropriated for Afghan “reconstruction” has to no surprise been wasted or stolen. Some of it has been used to irrigate opium poppy fields. Spare parts are unavailable for Russian helicopters bought by the US for use in battling Taliban and supposed opium fighting. Why? Because the US-imposed trade sanctions on Russia bars the US from buying the spare part. Catch-22.
By now, the longest war in US history has cost some $1 trillion, maybe more. No one can properly account for the billions and billions of US dollars flown into Afghanistan and Iraq and dished out to the natives – or the numbers of Afghans killed.
For Washington’s allies, like Canada and Britain, the war has been a total waste of lives and treasure. For Canada, 158 dead for nothing; for Britain 453. Forget all the phony claims about “mission” and “nation building.” This has been yet another dirty little colonial war that is better forgotten – and never repeated.
So this war will simmer on, at least until Washington finds some face-saving way out of the mess in the Hindu Kush.
If the US was wise, it would simply quit Afghanistan. But power, like opium, is highly addictive. So America’s longest war will drag on and on.
copyright Eric S. Margolis 2014
The Council on Foreign Relations, United Nations, IMF, World Bank, et cetera, did indeed plan for a never ending war, but their calculus was off
and they did not accurately forcast the flaws in their plans. Groupthink
loaned much to their collective failure on March 10th 2008 @ 11:00am Bear Stearns time, and when Lehman Bros. dithered its way into chapter 11 six months later, the plans of the CFR, UN, IMF, World Bank, were rendered useless. Presently, the old school oligarchs are slowly beginning to understand that they painted themselves into a corner with no possible exit from their collective conspiracy to oppress the entire world with ongoing wars. What is most fortunate is that they cannot succeed no matter how much time and money they are willing to invest. They are unable to understand the basic mathematics behind their failures, and in this respect, they have no possible chance of leading this world into more wars without bringing absolute ruin to their own lives and families. The USA is going down for the count along with all the USA bureaucrats that engineered the 'war on terror', 'war on drugs', and the 'war on the people' en masse. There is no possible way out of this end game calculus for the United States of America or their politicians. The USA will be destroyed by the very same plans they used to destroy other countries and what is good for the goose is good for the gander, USA.
NOTE: George Bush, Dick Cheney, Paul Wolfowitz, Donald Rumsfeld, Alan Greenspan, Robert Rubin, and Larry Summers, will be waterboarded, chained like dogs, and treated like prisoners in GITMO.
It's just a matter of time before they are photographed naked in a pyramid IMHO. What goes around comes around, America.
http://ericmargolis.com/2014/11/no-good-war-no-bad-peace/
"If the US Army, trained for colonial warfare against lightly armed enemies, ever has to fight China or Russia, it will encounter the same nasty problem."
The brilliance of our leaders can be surmised by thinking of all the oil we could have purchased at these prices for $3 trillion; instead, we got....? What exactly did we get for $3 trillion? Alas, making sense is not the way the MIC game is played...
The long war will be followed by the long decline!
Team America, Fuck yeah!
And there is more to come:
"... the neocon banking-corporate puppets in the US are in panic and seek desperately a pretext to come to war with Russia and put an end to this threat for their plans. This explains their agony to drag Russia into a warm conflict."
http://failedevolution.blogspot.gr/2014/08/the-dominant-elite-ready-to-b...
There will be no one to save us from the top. The one and only way out is going to come from the bottom- meaning the general population. We need to form civic organizations that meet weekly to discuss ways in which to rein in our so called leaders. Those of us with the means and the time need to reach out to the unawakened. Stand outside Walmart and pass out information regarding the planned unending war. Break the divisions bewtween right and left and create the division between the ruling elite and us. Create a plan of action at your weekly civic meetings. Prioritize- my suggestion is targeting the Supreme Court Ruling that allows corporations to contribute to campaigns. Political campaign contributions are not a freedom of speech issue. Campaign contributions are a financial instrument not speech.
The only other thing I can think of to get the ruling elite's attention is to call for a day without purchases. A coordinated effort in which one day no one spends a dime anywhere. If we could even get a large majority of people to refuse to participate in supporting anyone with their dollars perhaps they would get the sense we are ready to take their power away- that we will organize to do so. One day we stop money velocity. They don't listen, we try again and hopefully more people join. They don't listen, we try again. We keep doing this until it becomes a cool thing to do. It goes viral on Youtube. We have the power we just need to apply it. We have to realize there are more of us than them. Power is ours if we choose to join together and demand to be represented not repressed.
The wars are irrelevant compared to this disease.
Which wars have you participated in?
Only my own. You have to be an olympic class dumb ass to fight wars for the politicians who are raping you daily.
Well, then you don't know what you are talking about. Find some other things to make comparissons with until you have spent some personal time in a war zone.
War is the epitome of socialism.
It seems typical for people who use the word "socialism" on Zero Hedge to do so in ways which appear to have nothing to do with the dictionary definition of that word.
There is only one reality, and that is the reality of organized crime, repeating itself fractally on different scales. Some of those organized criminials invent various "isms" which are bullshit to conceal what they are really doing, with language that supports professional liars and immaculate hypocrites to be able to indulge in misrepresenting what they are doing. There are no good labels or commonly understood language to describe real political processes, due to the degree to which the best organized gangs of criminals dominated society, so that their bullshit social stories became dominant.
In any case, presuming there was some sense to the two statements above that I replied to, the money made out of nothing to pay for warfare is orders of magnitude greater than the money made out of nothing to pay for welfare.
There are always factions wanting war , for pleasure or profit .
But someone seems to gotten inside the US decision loop and is forcing
asymmeric war .
Who benefits ?
The Military Contracters have means , motive and opportunity .
See http://andreswhy.blogspot.com/2014/09/failed-state-usa.html
See http://andreswhy.blogspot.com/2014/08/the-mercenary-patriot.html
This has happened before on numerous occasions . The mercenaries try to take over .
See http://andreswhy.blogspot.com/2013/04/social-collapse-to-below-family-le...
on Mamelukes and Janisseries .
Somebody who knows what they are doing is deliberately igniting North-africa and Middle-east
Expect a raid on Mecca and Jerusalem .
ISIS , CIA , Mossad , KGB , SIS , Constellis etc ?
Major religious trouble brewing in Ethiopia-MiddleEast .
Think "stealing the Ka'aaba"
All currencies affected .
Raiders of the-not-so-lost Ark . This happened 14 Nov 2014 , two days ago .
http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/ethiopia-ark-of-covenant-reported-stolen...
Somebody is stirring it in a major way .
This theft is going to infuriate Christians , Jews , Islam , North Africa , Saudi's , etc
The fall-out is only just starting .
See
http://andreswhy.blogspot.com/2014/01/fall-of-aksum.html
The war in Iraq was more in line with Israel and the neocon agenda than for the oil. The oil was under control and flowing under the 'not-enough-food for oil' program. Israel wants local hegemony and is employing the tried and true method of Balkanizing its neighbors. Why waist your own military when the US military-industrial-security complex is happy to get some practice? The US agenda is to feed its war economy and dominate the world for corporations.
So much suffering and so unnecesssary.
For sure, Ignatius, here is a 20 minute statement from August, 2014, that summarizes the nature of the problem:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LM2Fi1rhYqc
WHISTLEBLOWERS!: 'The Greater Israel Project' Explained by Ken O'KeefeAny Web site, like Zero Hedge, that primarily focuses on financial affairs must also pay attention to the degree to which there are actually combined money/murder systems. There ARE, and MUST BE, natural selection pressures. After the existence of life, there comes as a package deal chronic political problems that necessarily make the death controls which direct the evolutionary development of that life. The GREAT PARADOXES that I perceive are the ways that natural selection pressures shaped the human artificial selection systems to become dominated by the ways that success in warfare was based on deceits and spies.
The situations that we are looking at are constantly more and greater deceits dominating the actual human death control systems. In my opinion one of the greatest problems in the background is that the historical successes of social control through backing up deceits with destruction also controlled the opposition, so that the publicly significant opposition groups continue to stay within the same basic frame of reference of deceitful attitudes towards death controls. That takes the form of irrational political "debates" based on false fundamental dichotomies, and their related impossible ideals.
The existence of "corporations" are themselves LEGALIZED LIES, which are euphemistically referred to as "legal fictions" even with their own intellectual systems. We have ACTUAL death controls operated through the maximum possible deceits, backing up ACTUAL debt controls based on the maximum possible frauds.
My view is that human realities MUST be organized lies operating robberies. What is POSSIBLE is to develop better dynamic equilibria between those systems of organized lies operating robberies, which have developed to become the currently dominant systems of corporations that exist as legalized lies, backed by legalized violence, operating frauds and robberies.
However, almost all of the publicly significant controlled opposition groups tend to promote the impossible ideals that there should be NO death controls. That is basically the same as demanding that the natural selection pressures should NOT exist. Demanding no violence in society is the same as demanding there be no force in physics. Promoting such impossible ideals always backfires badly, and makes the opposite happen in the real world. The opposition groups tend to always provide a relatively good analysis of what is really wrong with the established systems, but then almost never provide genuine solutions which would be based upon better death control systems. Rather, the controlled opposition usually spends ~90% of their time correctly pointing out what is wrong, BUT, then collapse to the last ~10% of their time promoting impossible ideals be realized as the bogus "solutions" to what they correctly described as being what was wrong.
The double whammy dilemmas we face are that the established social systems have been successfully enforced frauds, so much, for so long, that there is barely any significant opposition which does not also operate within the same bullshit frame of reference. Therefore, as in the video that I linked above, one can see the same patterns being repeated, that there is relatively good analysis of the real political problems, followed by bogus "solutions," which are axiomatically NOT possible to ever achieve, and therefore, working towards such impossible goals is guaranteed to NOT work, but rather really cause the opposite to those ideal goals to continue to happen. Your comment, Ignatius, appears to me to repeat that pattern, by concluding that "so much suffering" IS "so unnecessary."
My view is that life comes as a package deal. There must necessarily be some human death control systems. There must have been a history through which those human artificial selection systems were driven by natural selection pressures to be most successfully operated through the maximum possible deceits, and then those sorts of deceits became the foundation for everything else that civilization built on top of that foundation.
The degree to which our civilization is almost totally dominated by deceitful death controls means that there are practically no ways to develop better systems of death controls. It would not be too much of an exaggeration to assert that the impossible ideals promoted by almost everybody, both inside the established systems, as well as inside the controlled opposition groups, is that there should be no death controls, or at least none that human beings are consciously aware of. However, the goals should be greater use of information, enabling higher consciousness, in order to operate better death controls, which would operationally be better dynamic equilibria between the different human system of organized lies operating robberies.
I think that the BIGGEST PROBLEM is the growing contradiction between basic sciences like physics and biology, while nothing like that has happened in political science. The reasons for that are that the established systems' successes were based on the maximum possible deceits about themselves, which included that the significant controlled opposition groups continued to operate within the same basic frame of reference of utterly bullshit, backward views of death controls, which continues to promote bogus "solutions," based on false fundamental dichotomies, and their related impossible ideals, which can never be realized, but rather, must cause the opposite to happen in the real world.
There MUST be some sort of continuous warfare, in the sense of some continuous operation of death controls, due to the inherent nature of life itself. However, the problems for human beings are that our established systems were selected to become the most socially successful by operating through the maximum possible deceits. That in itself was always internally consistent with the nature of the murder systems, and their ideology of militarism.
What is happening in the USA is the runaway triumph of the best organized gangs of criminals being able to almost totally dominate how its social pyramid systems work. (That the events on 9/11/2001 were an inside job, false flag attack, is the most spectacular symbol of that situation, so far.) That history had previously developed the facts that the USA was the single greatest component in the globalized systems of legalized lies, backed by legalized violence, dominating the world. Of course, it fits within that situation that the controlled opposition groups in the USA stay within the same basically deceitful and backwards perspectives upon the issues of death controls.
The real death controls back up the real debt controls, and those combined murder/money systems operate through the maximum possible deceits and frauds ... Meanwhile, around and around we go, because all of the significant opposition groups are controlled to stay within that basic deceitful and fraudulent frame of reference, so that there are never any realistic solutions proposed. Instead, there is practically nothing but the best organized gangs of criminals controlling the government, who are able to fool enough of the people enough to the time, while the controlled opposition groups are actually fooling smaller groups of people. The thing that they have in common is that they based everything upon profoundly wrong ways of thinking about the nature of all death controls.
The history of successful warfare based upon deceits and spies has tangled up human history to the point of runaway criminal insanities. That includes the ways that those who focus upon the psychological problems with the apparent sociopathic and psychopathic people rising to the top of the social pyramids, tend to continue to regard that as being solely psychological problems, within those pyramidion people. There is usually never any regard given to the human ecology which evolved to give those kinds of personalities the social roles that they have. That is, the evolutionary ecology of human civilizations selected for those kinds of psychopaths to become the pyramidion people, because there necessarily had to be some sort of predator/parasite roles within the real human ecology.
By and large, the controlled opposition stays totally within the way of thinking that suits the productive/prey people, and therefore, proposes bogus bullshit solutions based upon the ideals that everyone should behave like the good productive/prey people behave. Both in the immediate short-term, and over bigger long-term, that kind of attitude recapitulates the patterns between those groups of people, which is the rut that we are stuck in now, going around and around, as that rut gets deeper and deeper ...
It is theoretically possible to perceive the issues of the death controls, done through the human murder systems, with their ideology of militarism differently, which could enable there to be more effective and efficient systems of human death controls. However, it is NOT possible for there to stop being any death controls whatsoever. Meanwhile, our political processes are stuck in their spirals of the best organized gangs of criminals dominating governments, opposed by those who refuse to accept that there must necessarily be some systems of death controls, which human beings must somewhat be conscious about.
We are digging ourselves deeper and deeper into the ruts of the actual death controls being operated through the maximum possible deceits, which makes operating any better death controls practically impossible. The basic human ecology system can be metaphorically described as Vicious Wolves, controlling more Domesticated Dogs, herding the masses of Zombie Sheeple, while that is superficially opposed by those who are Black Sheeple.
The existing society is more and more becoming electronic monkey money, backed by apes with atomic bombs. Science and technology is primarily being employed to enable the Vicious Wolves and their Domesticated Dogs to become better at being dishonest and violent, in order to herd the masses of Zombie Sheeple, while the controlled opposition continues to be mostly Black Sheeple promoting the ideals that the "solutions" are for everyone to become better Sheeple.
My view is that the better solutions are necessarily for everyone to become better Wolves. However, the vast majority of the population are mainstream morons, who are supposed to be awakened and led by the reactionary revolutionaries, whose bogus "solutions" are to go backwards to their preferred sorts of impossible ideals, manifested through the ways that their favourite sorts of religions and ideologies operate through promoting false fundamental dichotomies.
The basic problem is the degree of success that the Wolves have taught the Sheeple to bleat their morality, and be proud of the ways that morality is based on deliberate ignorance towards the deeper issues of death controls. A facet of the basic problem is the degree to which all of the publicly significant controlled opposition only points out some superficial levels of more radical truths about what the Vicious Wolves and their more Domesticated Dogs are doing to the herds of Zombie Sheeple, but then, do not go further towards the more radical truths about how and why natural selections pressures made and maintained those human ecology systems, to have evolved to operate like that.
America has entered a prolonged period of continuous war, that people are NOTICING. However, there was always perpetual war, as a facet of the chronic political problems inherent in the nature of life. Those features of chronic warfare were what made the powers of states, and what enabled the best organized gangs of criminals to capture control over the governments of states, which had emerged as the biggest forms of organized crime. In my view, the deeper problem is that we mostly continue to think in terms of false fundamental dichotomies, and their related impossible ideals, especially when we turn from the analysis of the social facts, to idealized solutions, which tend to become divorced from those facts.
While the established social pyramid systems were debt slavery backed by wars based on deceits, whose inherent structure has driven the generations of numbers which are debt insanities, headed towards provoking death insanities, and more and more people are NOTICING and becoming AWARE of those social facts, however, there continues to almost nothing that results from that but the same old-fashioned reactionary revolutionaries try to lead the masses of mainstream morons backwards, in response to becoming more aware of the radical truths about the ruling classes, but NOT in ways which transcend the frame of reference in which that apparent awakening was only so far occurring.
In my view, we should be perceiving that the social pyramid systems are actually toroidal vortices, and thereby connecting their top and bottom better, through perceiving that better. All human beings operate as entropic pumps of energy. All human beings are systems of organized lies, operating robberies. Governments assembled and channeled that power to rob, and power to kill to back up that robbery. The best organized gangs of criminals captured control over those governments, so that the collective powers of "We the People" ended up being more and more privatized, through the banksters and their corporations.
However, that was necessary, despite how much suffering that caused. We should base our morality upon better understanding of general energy systems, which requires radical truths to be recognized in our basic philosophy of science, because we mostly continue to understand time and space backwards, and therefore, understand the concept of entropy backwards. That bullshit world view was originally promoted by the biggest bullies, which eventually became the banksters and their buddies. However, that bullshit world view is still just as much shared by the controlled opposition groups. Indeed, most of the controlled opposition groups are even more sure of believing in that bullshit, because they have even less contact with the real world, since they have less real power.
In my view, while everything in the article above was correct, and it repeated many great quotes regarding the nature of those kinds of political problems, it basically continues to implicitly presume that the "solutions" could be found in "peace," as an end to the runaway warfare provoked by deceits, in order to amplify the on-going debt slavery systems. However, the only genuine solutions would require there to evolve better dynamic equilibria, so that there was some perpetual warfare, operating death controls, to back up debt controls, which were not so extremely deceitful and fraudulent, so that their degree of runaway psychotic detachment from the real world could be diminished.
More and more, we are facing the paradoxical final failure from too much social success through the means of backing up lies with violence, driving the problem that the violence never makes those lies stop being false. However, at the same time, almost everyone proposing "solutions" stays within the same frame of reference of triumphant deceits, as the background condition which was made and maintained by thousands of years of previous social successes based on those deceits.
The essential situation is that when human beings do good analysis of their situations, they necessarily always discover systems of organized lies operating robberies, under which conditions the best professional liars and immaculate hypocrites have tended to become the most socially successful, and that includes not only those inside the established systems, but also those inside the controlled opposition groups. Given that political predicament, the public spaces are mostly made up of mainstream morons, the masses of muppets, enough of whom are tricked and fooled to believe in the huge lies enough of the time, while the only apparent opposition tends to be reactionary revolutionaries, who superficially provide better analysis of the social facts, but then collapse back to bullshit "solutions" after that, in ways which contradict everything else that they just demonstrated were the real social facts.
Despite the series of excellent articles from George Washington, laying out the sources of information which indicate that the government of the USA has become the biggest form of organized crime, controlled by the best organized gangs of criminals, and the ways that those systems are dominating most of the world, while getting into worse and worse conflicts everywhere, due to that, nothing I have read so far in any of George Washington's articles goes beyond implicitly proposing the same old-fashioned reactionary revolutions as the bogus "solutions" to those runaway political problems.
Similarly, most of the comments do somewhat similar things. While I think that anyone who does enough research will discover the social facts regarding the current pyramidion people, that dominate the globalized Anglo-American (Zionist) Empire, I find that almost none of those then go beyond that ... Therefore, the USA is headed towards severe irreconcilable social polarization, which figures upon a background of even worse irreparable destruction of the natural world. It is practically impossible to imagine how Americans could fix the problems which are symbolized by the events on 9/11/2001 having actually been an inside job, false flag attack, as a deliberate way to advance the agenda of the ruling classes, not only abroad, but also at home, against the American People that they ruled over.
In my view, to resolve that problematic polarization any better takes changing the political paradigms through which we perceive that problem. In my view, that takes regarding the chronic political problems inherent in the nature of life using unitary mechanisms, as much as possible, rather than continuing to use the mentally easier sets of dualities, which are falsely promoted as fundamental dichotomies.
IF human beings survive progress in science and technology, that will only be possible through them developing enough of an advanced political science, which takes profound paradigms shifts in the philosophy of science. Of course, I recognize that, at the present time, the Vicious Wolves and their more Domesticated Dogs almost totally dominate the herds of Zombie Sheeple, while the vast majority of the smaller groups of Black Sheeple also have almost no personal interest in changing the ways that they want to continue to perceive the world. The only things happening in the real world are that the established systems of debt slavery backed by wars based on deceits are automatically getting BIGGER, and therefore, more psychotically insane. Therefore, our civilization appears to be headed to times of manifesting Peak Insanities, as the basic problem of social control through backing up lies with violence drives its own mad self-destruction.
In that context, I have to concede that the kind of perspective upon those political problems that I promote appears to be relatively pointless, since we appear bound and determined to go through the established systems own mad self-destruction, which will be aided and abetted by some of the controlled opposition groups thereupon having some real opportunities for their kinds of bullshit to drive even more crazy collapsing into chaos. In my view, we should be regarding the problems of Neolithic Civilization as having become so serious and severe that those require solutions which would amount to the emergence of a radically different Translithic Civilization, which would be able to operate death controls through greater use of information, and higher consciousness, rather than through deceits backed by destruction, after technologies such as electronics and atomic power amplified those deceits and destruction by many orders of magnitude.
While there is NO DOUBT that America was leading the world into the maximum possible deceits backed by destruction vicious spirals, which were becoming continuous social storms, spinning more and more out of control of the people who originally made and maintained those systems, there is NO way to resolve that situation by going backwards. We can only, perhaps, go forward, through those severe social storms. IF enough of us do, and there is still enough of technologically based civilization surviving through that, THEN we should be aiming towards the development of some Translithic Civilization, in which there were enough intellectual scientific revolutions so that our political science was genuinely improved.
Of course, at the present time, due to the ways that the established systems are dominated by people who were personally successful by being professional liars and immaculate hypocrites, while the controlled opposition was just as much like that, if not more so, than those operating the established systems of debt slavery backed by wars based on deceits, there are no good reasons to expect anything else that for our collective social madnesses to be amplified as much as possible, before those madnesses finally result in their own self-destruction. Given that most probable prognosis for the degree to which our society has become terminally sick and insane, there is perhaps no practical point to my attempts to promote deeper layers of more radical truths, regarding the ways that we perceive the existing political situations in North American, as well as almost all other NATO countries.
Obviously, proposing that more realistic solutions require better death controls is extremely problematic inside of social situations where the actual death controls are being done through the maximum possible deceits, and the controlled opposition groups are just as emotionally attached to perceiving the world through the language promoted by the biggest bullies, as the biggest bullier are, if not even more so! That becomes even more problematic the more that one fully faces the deeper reasons how and why operating the murder systems developed the ideology of militarism, which has necessarily been able to embrace the crucial roles of deceits and spies in the context of successful death controls in the past.
Obviously, the genuine goals of governments as better organized crime, controlled by better organized gangs of criminals, are extremely paradoxical, but nevertheless those are the only means which are consistent with the realistic analysis of the existing political situations that dominate the world today. I continue to see nothing theoretically wrong with the ideals of a democratic republic, operating through the rule of law. The practical problem is that enough of the people can be fooled enough of the time, especially because of the degree to which they have been brainwashed to believe in bullshit, and conditioned to feel that they do not want to know more of the radical truth. American citizens, like all citizens, are actually members of an organized crime gang, they call their country. However, the degree to which they do not understand that, and do not want to understand that, is also the degree to which they have become incompetent political idiots, or Zombie Sheeple, where there are too many of those kinds of mainstream morons, who can be fooled too much of the time.
Those kinds of muppets are not only manipulated by the professional liars and immaculate hypocrites that operate the established systems, they are also tricked by the reactionary revolutionaries, who do not genuinely wake them up to deeper radical truths, but only to some of the more superficial radical truths. While I agree that educating more people, in order to make the ideal systems of a democratic republic, or a constitutional monarchy, etc., operate through the rule of law is a good idea, while the destruction of the rule of law, and the destruction of the systems that should supervise that rule of law is not a good idea, the deeper problem is that enough citizens would have to appreciate the basics that the only connection between the laws of man and the law of nature is the ability to back up lies with violence.
The established systems of legalized lies, backed by legalized violence, exemplified by corporations such as big banks, and the other corporations that grew up around those banks, can not have their problems fixed by any return to impossible ideals, based on believing in dualities. The only genuinely realistic ideals are those which are consistent with the laws of nature, such as the conservation of energy and momentum and the preservation of information. Indeed, those were always working through the actual history of the development of human civilizations. There necessarily emerged human artificial selection systems, operating their death controls through the maximum possible deceits. To cope with that better requires that we should go through a series of intellectual scientific revolutions, from the philosophy of science into political science.
Do you c/p parts of your comments, or are all your comments original compositions? Otherwise, i appreciate the repitition of your vernacular to penetrate my thick skull. I would think the length of some of your comments dissuade some potential 'readers/counter-commentators', but all you can do is 'put it out there'. As far as any analysis to your comment(s), i have to agree that any part of a 'solution' is in understanding the underlying problem. Your understanding of the paradox between people grasping the difference between natural death 'controls' versus un-natural ones is paramount to over-coming the deceipt of the immaculate hypocrites. I believe, as one of the 'reactionary revolutionaries' who want to go 'backwards', that once we achieve a more sustainable lifestyle based in localized food production, we will again come to 'accept' a more naturally based life/death cycle. So much more to say on this, but i am not nearly as prolific as you. Just an ardent admirer. And as someone who can't say that very often, i am glad to do so. :)
War is part of the nature of man. Some produce or have, while others crave what they have and to rule over others. The choice is how to survive. Mankind has created dogmas to control others, such as honor, or duty, or patriotism, or soldier of god, or forceful conscription. The weakness of men is their craving for a king/leader to think for them. The centers of power are found in large monumental buildings which intimidate a lone man. To trust in their god, their omniscience, their omnipotence, their wars is a temporary opiate. Why die or risk death or injury for the glory of Clinton, Bush, Obama, or Ozymandias?
"I met a traveler from an antique land
Who said: Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. Near them, on the sand,
Half sunk, a shattered visage lies, whose frown,
And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read,
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them, and the heart that fed,
And on the pedestal these words appear:
"My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings:
Look upon my works, ye Mighty, and despair!"
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away." ~Shelley
"War is part of the nature of man."
Maybe ... men do seem to have an innate desire to test themselves. And if that is what war is then I agree.
However, the killing, enslavement and domination over others, which we are led to believe is part of human nature, I am not so sure. If true, it would imply that if we do not do it, it is only because of fear of being defeated.
I will agree however, that there is a survival instinct and when under pressure for survival man will use his animal instincts to survive. Men form in packs (or gangs) and will kill and take from others to survive.
But bulling and murder for sport is something that I believe is learned.
The key word is believed. Chimpanzees have wars. http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/09/140917131816.htm Men have always had wars. Dogmas about the utopias of men without war, living under some god or perfected system are oft justifications for "good" wars. The perfect society ruled by philosophers or god are figments of man's imagination, not confirmed in the experimental records of history.
Have you ever noticed that the people never want wars and the so called leaders always seem to want wars.
We are constantly goaded to take sides and create conflict.
Why is that?
Conflict justifies a leader. The sheeple see war might cause them suffering, while leaders expect the suffering to be with the sheeple. War becomes a theater in which the sheeple play a role. Bread and circuses are replaced by commitment, trust, hope and obedience to the leader.
I find it hard to believe that humans are so innately evil that they feel compelled to murder and enslave others for their own benefit. This is not the nature of the human beings that I know. None would do it, even if they thought they could benefit and get a away with it. Yet they (we) do.
And, there is the paradox ... so why?
Is it fear or laziness in the face of some greater malignant power. Is it mind control? Is it that we are not privy to an understanding of the nature of reality that those who commit the evil acts and form evil government are privy to? Is none of it real and only a simulation to teach and test us? Is there some greater good and a misunderstanding of the nature of evil that actually abrogates the negative aspects of their acts? Are they not us?
Why does this question continue to be asked? A certain percentage of the population are insane in a very destructive manner. They are psychopaths and sociopaths. To understand why there is constant war, all you have to do is to study these types. As societies mature, these types come into power and destroy the society. It is their nature.
Stop asking "why?" the answer is easily available. If you don't understand it, it is only because you refuse to look.
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"" This is not the nature of the human beings that I know""
Self-selection bias.
You need to read more. The history of mankind has been non-stop war and slavery. The past 65 years have been an anomaly that allowed soft ideas to flourish, and those with hard ideas will crush the weak.
It has always been so.
Sometimes this resulted in flourishing civilisations, sometimes it did not - but the constant has been this for as long as primates have been around.
Right ... There have always been wars and to some that proves that wars are human nature. However, the answer is too pat for me.
Sure, I have a self-selection bias. It is what I have experienced. But I do not always believe history as it is written or government as it is propagandized. Sure, I can believe that there are human aberrations called sociopaths and psychopaths ... and maybe these aberrations are genetic and they always crush those who are not aberrations.
Maybe we are restricted to this 3 dimensional planet, confined within meat-sacks so that we can be sorted. The psychopaths and sociopaths are not allowed to be set free into the larger world. So, knowing this, they try to make the worst out of this world so as to poison the well. If true, I expect that at some point the detritus will be flushed.
Those aberrations are the norm, in that they end up being the rulers in most societies whilst everyone else, who is not a sociopath and psychopath, follows them.
Look at how the Japanese and Germans teach WW2, what they think of it today, how they conceptualize it today, 70 years later. It was not that bad or some things did not happen, in fact we were victims some claim.
Now take that mindset, stretch it out for 10,000 years and you end up with this:
"Aboriginal peoples were always peaceful hunter gatherers until Europeans arrived..."
The winners write the history, sometimes, and the losers end up playing the victim - when reality is different.
Problem of perpetual war is that if it doesn't pay for itself, doesn't bring in lots of goodies to increase the wealth of the agressor, well eventually they go bankrupt.
Thus America has banrupted itself. Printed trillions, stolen from the present population, made them poor, and stolen from future generations making sure they are poor. And attempted to steal from the people of all other nations, making them poor....but soon the bucket runs dry, but the military machine as hungry for money to feed itself as ever. The Elite begin to steal from higher up the food chain for their survival.
Eventually the leave chaos everywhere, as the US has done and will do. Except in the modern world the potential targets for more war have the power to extinguish you and your country from the planet in a moment.
China testing the waters with Japan and SE Asia, US trying to forment war in Europe on the back its activity in the Ukraine. Desperate for war, and needing them to be on larger and larger scale.
The leaders of the US military war machine banksters, not too concerned if they trash this or that country, or even their own, as they are essential stateless citizens. They live and prosper safely anywhere in the world they choose.
The US installing their own govt in the Ukraine, the Ukraine shooting down MH17 to incite hatred and reason for war with Russia. European Union and the Euro proving to be a failure and ready to fall apart, they all need war to avert the loss of world control and control of their people.
"Problem of perpetual war is that if it doesn't pay for itself, doesn't bring in lots of goodies to increase the wealth of the agressor, well eventually they go bankrupt."
Yes, but increasing the wealth is not the aim, but maintaining and increasing power is. So, it is only after the power has exhausted all of its access to resources, including human resources that it can no longer maintain power. In the US, the government has given itself the power to take anything it wants for its benefits and the parasites who run it. They can take money, industry, land, supplies and even conscript human slaves. They enforce their self-proclaimed rights through many enforcement arms: media, finance, courts and military/police and always use propaganda to try to justify their evil acts. These rights that they have given themselves are corrupt, antisocial and not for the benefit of the people ... only for those who desire to maintain their personal power over others... and that is also why they lie, keep secrets and cannot tell the truth. Good people trust ... at least until they can no more. And there is a very large supply of good and trusting people.