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Canada's PM To Putin: "I Guess I'll Shake Your Hand..." Putin's Response "Was Not Positive"

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Following last week's (humiliating for the US) APEC meeting in Beijing, in which the BRIC nations clearly distanced themselves from the "developed world" and the topic of the "Russian invasion of Ukraine" was largely missing as it is clearly not in the interest of the Pacific nations to warmonger when the two key nations, Russia and China are obviously not complying with the western media 'straight to populism' narrative, it was time for another major world summit, this time in the quite "western" Brisbane, Australia.

It was here that the G-7 part of the G-20 nations seized the opportunity to quickly pivot against Moscow and remind Europe that the reason why Europe is in a triple-dip recession (if one removes the GDP "boost" from hookers and blow) is because of Russia's "take over" of east Ukraine, ignoring the reality that it was the US State Department's Victoria Nuland that incited the Kiev coup and the west that imposed the "costly" sanctions on Russia which have hurt Germany and Europe just as badly. This was all largely lost on the local, as outside the summit, Ukrainian Australians staged an anti-Putin protest, wearing headbands reading "Putin, Killer".

It was a full court press from the start: as the NYT reports, "at a speech at a university in Brisbane, Mr. Obama called Russia’s aggression against Ukraine a “threat to the world, as we saw in the appalling shootdown of MH-17, a tragedy that took so many innocent lives, among them your fellow citizens,” a reference to the Australian citizens and residents who were killed when Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 went down in eastern Ukraine.

“As your ally and friend, America shares the grief of these Australian families, and we share the determination of your nation for justice and accountability,” Mr. Obama said."

This charade was set to continue Sunday, when leaders from the European Union planned to meet with Mr. Obama to discuss Ukraine, among other issues, said Herman Van Rompuy, the president of the European Council. He said the European Union was committed to finding a political solution to the crisis.

“We will continue to use all the diplomatic tools, including sanctions, at our disposal,” he said.

Indeed, as Reuters adds "Western leaders warned Vladimir Putin at a G20 summit on Saturday that he risked more economic sanctions if he failed to end Russian backing for separatist rebels in Ukraine."

But perhaps the best confirmation that all the G-20 meeting was nothing but a giant populist photo-op comes from Bloomberg which reports that "Russian President Vladimir Putin got a blunt message when he approached Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper for a handshake at today’s Group of 20 summit in Brisbane, Australia.

“I guess I’ll shake your hand but I have only one thing to say to you: you need to get out of Ukraine,” Harper told Putin, the prime minister’s spokesman Jason MacDonald said in an e-mail.

Putin’s response to the comment wasn’t positive, MacDonald said, without elaborating. Putin and Harper talked briefly, according to Putin’s spokesman Dmitry Peskov.

“Indeed Harper told Putin that Russia should leave Ukraine,” Peskov said by phone today in Brisbane. “Putin told him that this is impossible because they are not there.”

Asked about the tone of the meeting between the two leaders, Peskov said “it was within the bounds of decency.”

Say no more.

Russian President Vladimir Putin, right, walks past Canadian Prime Minister
Stephen Harper, left, during a welcoming ceremony at the G-20 summit in Brisbane.

Yet at the end of the day, captioned photo-op or not, one wonders how much of all the front-page drama is even remotely real when every single time the west goes on the "offensive" against Putin with "costs" just to have a convenient scapegoat for Europe's ongoing depression, one hears in the back of one head the following exchange:

Obama: "This is my last election. After my election I have more flexibility."

Medvedev: "I understand. I will transmit this information to Vladimir"

 

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Sat, 11/15/2014 - 15:59 | 5452130 J S Bach
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Harper is such a groveling lickspittle to TPTB.  Too bad Putin didn't execute some of his martial arts prowess on the obsequious SOB.

Sat, 11/15/2014 - 16:01 | 5452142 jal
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http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/stephen-harper-at-g20-tells-vladimir-putin-to-get-out-of-ukraine-1.2836382

2892 Comments

(I’ll keep my comments to myself and reserve them for a serious situation)


Sat, 11/15/2014 - 16:13 | 5452170 saints51
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Obama's facial expression in the background of the picture with Putin walking by is pricelsss. I wonder what he was thinking? Maybe he liked his shoes and was jelly.

Sat, 11/15/2014 - 16:24 | 5452189 AlaricBalth
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As part of his "diplomatic" retort, Putin stated to Harper, "You need to get the f**k out of Lithuania".

The Canadian Air Task Force (ATF) is participating in the NATO Baltic Air Policing (BAP) mission from September to December 2014 and is based in Siauliai, Lithuania.

http://forces.gc.ca/en/operations-abroad/nato-ee.page

Sat, 11/15/2014 - 16:28 | 5452207 ZerOhead
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Obama: "This is my last election. After my election I have more flexibility."

 

Too bad Obama used that increased flexibility to shove his head even further up his ass.

Sat, 11/15/2014 - 16:40 | 5452225 strannick
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"Stick to penning hockey books idiot and leave politics to the grown ups. I won't throw you to the matt. This time"

-Putin to Harper

Sat, 11/15/2014 - 17:11 | 5452297 Divided States ...
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Never liked that Israeli loving cocksucker But i say harper and Putin can settle this in the ring

Sat, 11/15/2014 - 17:24 | 5452325 TahoeBilly2012
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What's really fucking scary is how mass controlled "our" leaders are in the West, not one standing up and question the aggression from the West. 

Sat, 11/15/2014 - 17:41 | 5452376 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Putin to Harper: You get out of Ukraine.

https://pp.vk.me/c619321/v619321108/12356/PKTJR89f3aw.jpg

Sat, 11/15/2014 - 18:01 | 5452437 COSMOS
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Supplies for the artillery guys shelling civilians.  Nice job canada. I am sure the ammo came from there also.

Sat, 11/15/2014 - 18:40 | 5452444 Latina Lover
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Harper is playing to the Dumb Ukie vote in Canada hence his childish actions. Nevertheless, this is a low for Canadian diplomacy, acting like a petulant child when Russia's is being threatened by western actions on her very doorstep. Whatever miniscule influence Canada had over Russia is now gone.

Sat, 11/15/2014 - 18:56 | 5452593 Publicus
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Putin prabably told him to mind his own business.

Sat, 11/15/2014 - 19:36 | 5452714 PT
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"You first."

Sat, 11/15/2014 - 21:14 | 5452909 Pinto Currency
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G7 are facing currency collapse caused by their own central banks.

War (in this case with Russia) is the historical tool for politicians in trouble.

Sat, 11/15/2014 - 21:23 | 5452947 Anusocracy
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Nothing worse than a self-righteous psychopath who is Canadian.

Sat, 11/15/2014 - 22:16 | 5453077 Lore
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Canada has some very dangerous people, including Agenda 21 zealots.

Something happened to PM Harper about two years ago. He used to be a sensitive, competent, truth-seeking, respected diplomat and statesman. Now he just seems like a foolish, ill-advised boob - a national embarrassment.  

I still struggle to wrap my mind around this:  PM Harper serenades Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu with Beatles hit "Hey Jude" (Jan 2014)

Sat, 11/15/2014 - 22:56 | 5453189 Latina Lover
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Harper was likely compromised by the NSA, caught with his hand up some little boys pants.

Sat, 11/15/2014 - 23:00 | 5453202 espirit
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Obama's pants?

Sat, 11/15/2014 - 23:12 | 5453226 espirit
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Putin will have wished he'd brought his industrial strength hand sanitizer.

Sat, 11/15/2014 - 23:26 | 5453227 Lore
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Canadians need to consider the apparent lack of viable candidates for Mr. Harper's eventual replacement. We don't see evidence of solid, competent thinkers waiting in the background. The present opposition leaders seem shallow, controlled and stupid, wholly incapable of cutting through bullshit and thinking at a deep, critical level and leading the nation intelligently, morally and responsibly through real trouble. I suppose the bright ones see what's coming and want no part of it. We appear to face a grave leadership vacuum, at the worst possible time!

Sun, 11/16/2014 - 09:51 | 5453994 debtandtaxes
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Justin Trueau. You may not like his politics but I find it difficult to say he is not a "solid, competent thinker."

Wed, 11/19/2014 - 16:46 | 5466834 Lore
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You're kidding, right?  We need someone with grit, not a narcissistic child-who-never-grew-up.

Sun, 11/16/2014 - 12:08 | 5454225 janus
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oh canada, you are in no wise alone in your woe.  Lore, one could replace the first pronoun in your paragraph with any peoples or nation in the western hemisphere, and it would be just as true for them as for you.  but i suppose it stands to reason.  when nations are ruled by forces and faces unseen, it makes sense that those who stand before the public as stooges be wantonly incompetent.  wire-pullers need puppets; and their greatest fear is that one of their automatons come to life and start snipping the lines that bind them.

it was the best of times/

it was the worst of times,

janus

Wed, 11/19/2014 - 16:54 | 5466860 Lore
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It is the same everywhere, but there is hope. Whenever our controlled media paints someone with a brain as "evil," compared to "Hitler," someone who commits "acts of aggression," or conversely "weak" and "overdue to step down," you know you're looking at someone with the potential for standing up to the psychopaths, although even that should be taken with a grain of salt, because straw men abound.  Psychopaths are natural manipulators and spreaders of dis- and mis-information, so we have to decide for ourselves what's true and what isn't, regardless of and most likely against the grain of popular consensus.

Looking back at this post, I'm struck by how paranoiac it sounds. Fascinating, how TPTB are protected by natural mechanisms for self-doubt.

Sat, 11/15/2014 - 23:36 | 5453275 Rakshas
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not sure if it related but the lyrics to his inaugural theme song.....

 

Beastiality's best boys, bestiality's best.

Fuck a Polar Bear!

Blow your rocks in an ox boys, blow your rocks in an ox.

Blow your rocks in an ox boys, blow your rocks in an ox.

Fuck a Polar Bear!

Shoot some spunk of a skunk boys, shoot some spunk of a skunk.

Shoot some spunk of a skunk boys, shoot some spunk of a skunk

Fuck a Porcupine!

Dump some juice in a Moose Boys Dump some juice in a Moose Boys .

Dump some juice in a Moose Boys Dump some juice in a Moose Boys  

Fuck a Polar Bear!

Sun, 11/16/2014 - 01:57 | 5453590 Kirk2NCC1701
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They only let those climb up who are compromised, or can be: bullied, bribed, blackmailed.

That way they have total control over them.

Sun, 11/16/2014 - 10:30 | 5454050 matrix2012
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"...Something happened to PM Harper about two years ago. ..."

Is it possible that those puppet leaders such as Harper is having a reprogramming under the MKULTRA etc as controlled by TAVISTOCK?

Or some life-threatening pressure? just see there are many suicided bankers, these victims may also serve as the good examples about their seriousness among the Tribe circle.

Sun, 11/16/2014 - 10:37 | 5454062 matrix2012
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Most Americans have probably never heard the name PAUL DESMARAIS. However, DESMARAIS is the CANADIAN TYCOON who is said to front for THE ROTHSCHILD FAMILY in running the wealthy and influential POWER CORPORATION OF CANADA. Desmarais has also reportedly been the power-behind-the-throne for at least five Canadian Prime Ministers: Pierre Trudeau, Brian Mulroney, Jean Chretien (whose daughter is married to Desmarais's son Andre), Paul Martin, and ZIOCON Stephen Harper....

 

Desmarais is also a close friend and supporter of French President Nicolas MOSSAD Sarkozy, who scrapped the Gaullist policy of supporting sovereignty for FRENCH-SPEAKING QUEBEC, abandoned the policy. Desmarais is vehemently opposed to independence for Quebec. Desmarais has used his influence and wealth to ensure the loyalty of at least two pro-federal Quebec Premiers, former Premier Daniel Johnson and current Premier Jean Charest.

Desmarais, who has been less-than-candid about his religious affiliation, is a strong influence on the Harper government's strong support for the right-wing government of Israel. In fact, the "Marais" in "Desmarais" is the historically Jewish neighborhood of Paris. And PAUL DESMARAIS is known to associate with the Jewish upper crust in Palm Beach, Florida, where he maintains one of his homes. Another close associate of Desmarais is MAURICE STRONG, who once served as President of Power Corporation before he became a UN senior bureaucrat who became the LEADING PROPONENT of GREENHOUSE GAS CARBON CREDITS under the KYOTO CLIMATE CHANGE CONTROL PROTOCOLS.  More here: http://bit.ly/IhZzYi
Sun, 11/16/2014 - 00:04 | 5453376 mickeyman
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Hopefully he washed his hand afterwards

Sun, 11/16/2014 - 02:03 | 5453605 Kirk2NCC1701
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That's probably wiser than you realize: wouldn't put it past Harper's CIA handlers to have his hand coated with a malicious substance, for which his own hand has been treated with a barrier.

Sun, 11/16/2014 - 07:35 | 5453836 PT
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Barrier?  Why bother?  Puppets are cheap and plentiful ...

Sat, 11/15/2014 - 18:59 | 5452600 JamesBond
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How long before, "It's Putin's Fault, falls into the american lexicon

 

 

 

Sat, 11/15/2014 - 19:04 | 5452621 TungstenBars
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Pretty much already has. Haven't you heard, the triple dip in Europe is Putin's fault.

Sat, 11/15/2014 - 19:10 | 5452652 Bindar Dundat
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This blog isn'y anti-Canadian, antisemetic , and  anti-everything-- like a fight club brawl?

 

Listen you rat fucker assholes -- we know what you don't stand for but what is it you do stand for?

Sat, 11/15/2014 - 19:14 | 5452661 Pinto Currency
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Wait until Russia overthrows the government of Mexico with a coup and sends advisors to help attack Mexicans on the US border who are resisting.

Harper will then tell the US to stop supporting the Mexicans who are resisting so that the coup leaders can have the whole country.

Sat, 11/15/2014 - 19:19 | 5452675 Latina Lover
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The America stooge main stream media has already blamed Ebola on Russia.  Putin is also responsible for global warming.

Sun, 11/16/2014 - 10:50 | 5454072 nmewn
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I knew it!!!

Sat, 11/15/2014 - 19:18 | 5452672 knukles
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This "blog" stands for good spelling, grammar and punctuation.

Sat, 11/15/2014 - 21:26 | 5452957 Angus McHugepenis
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Knukles: You must be thinqing of anether webstite. Eveyting is good hear.

Their for the Greece of Dog go aye.

Sun, 11/16/2014 - 10:47 | 5454068 nmewn
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Especially when confirming Kinadiens are xsheptunal ;-)

Sun, 11/16/2014 - 10:50 | 5454073 matrix2012
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This "blog" stands for steady inquiring mind, readers with critical alertness and sound reasons, not saying that Tylers are flawless, but this blog may not suit very well those koolaid drinkers or parrotlike personalities.

Sun, 11/16/2014 - 06:51 | 5453812 Tall Tom
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Listen you rat fucker assholes -- we know what you don't stand for but what is it you do stand for?

 

 

 

 

Liberty and Freedom.

 

Freedom of expression is just one of those freedoms, Bindar Dundat.

 

Even the freedom of publishing your shallow thoughts is allowed here.

Sat, 11/15/2014 - 18:28 | 5452439 Latina Lover
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When Harper speaks, just assume that the USSA state department has their hand up his ass.  When it comes to real politik, Canada no longer matters.

Sat, 11/15/2014 - 20:43 | 5452866 McCormick No. 9
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When it comes to realpolitik, did Canada EVER matter?

Sat, 11/15/2014 - 22:58 | 5453195 Latina Lover
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I stand corrected, Canada has  been a political non entity on the international front after Trudeau.

Sat, 11/15/2014 - 23:39 | 5453297 Lore
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To this day, any mention of THAT name still evokes dark memories of sad times in many Canadian homes. 

Sun, 11/16/2014 - 08:36 | 5453880 Latina Lover
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Note that I did not say Trudeau was a positive force for canada.

Mon, 11/17/2014 - 22:10 | 5459777 Lore
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Roger that. Let's focus on something positive, like your avatar.

Sat, 11/15/2014 - 17:27 | 5452334 mjcOH1
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"Obama's facial expression in the background of the picture with Putin walking by is pricelsss. I wonder what he was thinking?"

O: "Will anyone notice that my panties are inconveniently wet."

Sat, 11/15/2014 - 18:32 | 5452523 BurningFuld
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We should have sent Justin Bieber instead.

Sat, 11/15/2014 - 21:40 | 5452988 tvdog
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Justin Bieber would make a better Canadian PM than Steven Harper.

Sun, 11/16/2014 - 11:43 | 5454170 moonshadow
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@divided states:

yet another example of anti-semites at zh

Sun, 11/16/2014 - 07:58 | 5453856 MaldelBot
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This is my last election. After my election I have more flexibility.....to work on my March Madness brackets."

Sun, 11/16/2014 - 11:02 | 5454092 drendebe10
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Another episode of empty vacuous gum flapping by the spineless incompetent corrupt arrogant narcissistic illegal indonesian kenyan alien muslim sociopathic pathological liar in chief fudgepacker. 

How gr8 it would be to see the fudgepacker & Putin a MMA ring together...

Sat, 11/15/2014 - 16:30 | 5452211 Escrava Isaura
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Canadian Prime Ministers have cojones, we have to admit.

 

“The big [U.S. and England] powers were largely immune to being named and shamed” — Paul Martin, Prime Minister of Canada. 

 

Sat, 11/15/2014 - 17:25 | 5452331 IronForge
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AKA, The Five-Eyed Commonwealth, Anglo-American Empire, Five Eyes Surveillance Alliance, or the Five Eyed Fraudsters.

We're getting sick and tired of their BS.

Why is CAN bombing ISIL?  Is it afraid ISIL's "Bootleg Crude"Sales will ruin their Oil Sands Revenues?

Sat, 11/15/2014 - 18:03 | 5452449 COSMOS
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Add Israel in there and you have the Ring that rules them All and the six points of the Star of David

Sat, 11/15/2014 - 19:15 | 5452666 Eirik Magnus Larssen
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Racism never seems to be very far behind your various conspiracy theories.

Sat, 11/15/2014 - 19:46 | 5452739 conscious being
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Racism is never far away from your canned responses. In your world certain people are beyond critisism. Rothschilds adopted the Star of David as their symbol. The symbol of the Jews up til that time was the Menhora.

Sat, 11/15/2014 - 21:17 | 5452941 gladih8r
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The Jews are not a race.  Why don't you get some fresh Ctrl-C and Ctrl-V diarrhea from the guys who pay you to post it. 

Sun, 11/16/2014 - 07:01 | 5453815 Tall Tom
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The Jews are a race. They were God's chosen to manifest the Christ through selective breeding.

 

There are genetic markers, even within the Ashkenazi, which demonstrate this EMPIRICALLY.

 

Even David Duke, Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan, will admit to this empirical fact. DNA does not lie.

 

You can choose to deny empiricism if you desire. But that does not change the Truth whatsoever.

Sun, 11/16/2014 - 09:49 | 5453981 Escrava Isaura
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Tom, this should complement your post

 

(real) Knowledge (science) is liberating, isn't it?

 

We analyzed a total of 1,371 males from 29 populations. These populations were categorized into five major divisions based on a combination of geographic, religious, linguistic, and ethnohistorical criteria: Jews, Middle Eastern non-Jews, Europeans, North Africans, and sub-Saharan Africans

 

In summary, the combined results suggest that a major portion of NRY biallelic diversity present in most of the contemporary Jewish communities surveyed here traces to a common Middle Eastern source population several thousand years ago. The implication is that this source population included a large number of distinct paternal and maternal lineages, reflecting genetic variation established in the Middle East at that time. In turn, this source diversity has been maintained within Jewish communities, despite numerous migrations during the Diaspora and long-term residence as isolated subpopulations in numerous geographic locations outside of the Middle East.

 

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC18733/

 

 

Mon, 11/17/2014 - 02:05 | 5456305 conscious being
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Out of Africa. Look it up. Look at a map. How do you get out of Africa? Let's assume you are walking.

Sun, 11/16/2014 - 09:47 | 5453991 jimmytorpedo
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So if I convert to Judaism I will be changing my race?

Cool.

How do I convert to Asian?

Maybe I will convert into an albino, I hear they have genetic markers as well.

Sun, 11/16/2014 - 11:02 | 5454090 matrix2012
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Syriac Manuscript Shows Jesus Was Married to Mary Magdalene (NOV 12, 2014)

 

A new book claims that Jesus Christ and Mary Magdalene were married with children.

The authors of The Lost Gospel claim that an ancient Syriac manuscript called 'Joseph and Aseneth', which found its way to the British Library in London back in 1847 from a monastery in Egypt, is the lost gospel that shows Jesus as a human being who courted and then married his wife, had children and even survived an attempt on his life.

"The manuscript helps fill the 30-year gap in Jesus' resume," co-author Professor Barrie A Wilson said at a press conference here today.

"What the Vatican feared – and Dan Brown only suspected – has come true. There is now written evidence that Jesus was married to Mary the Magdalene and that they had children together," Authors Wilson and Simcha Jacobovici write in the Preface of the book.

The authors claim that the manuscript is already known to experts in the field of early Christianity, but only in the later Latin and Greek translations.

They claim to be the first to work with a Syriac version, which they have translated and "decoded" to reach their conclusions.

The authors claim the manuscript is dated to roughly the 3rd century.

Its content was a direct threat to the authority of the Christian establishment and canonical literature, which by then had succeeded in sanitising Jesus, denying him a family life, and portraying Mary the Magdalene, who was actually his wife, as a prostitute.

 

Source

Sun, 11/16/2014 - 20:46 | 5455585 StychoKiller
Sat, 11/15/2014 - 22:54 | 5453186 European American
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Tel Aviv is using Scandinavian names now to hide behind? How low will they go.

Mon, 11/17/2014 - 02:09 | 5456311 conscious being
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Lower than most people can imagine.

Sat, 11/15/2014 - 22:56 | 5453193 Rakshas
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Eirik, brother you hit that right on man,  when it comes to Israel the race card comes out time and again without fail........ as evidenced by: 

 ‘Israel should have taken advantage of the suppression of the demonstrations in China [Tiananmen Square], when the world’s attention was focussed on what was happening in that country, to carry out mass expulsions among the Arabs of the Territories. However, to my regret, they did not support that policy that I proposed, and which I still propose should be implemented.’........ Nuts-fucking-yahoo

 

yep I ain't never had seen such genocidal racism afore in my whole life..........

 

 

Sun, 11/16/2014 - 04:56 | 5453753 Jonathan Equine...
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Israel is a race, now, too?

That's some shoddy Thought Policing, Susan.

Sun, 11/16/2014 - 07:18 | 5453820 Tall Tom
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You can seek out the Empirical EVIDENCE that demonstrates that Israel (Jacob) is the offspring of Jacob.

 

(Actually Leah as it is Maternal DNA from my recollection. But since Leah was Jacob's wife whom bore the Twelve sons, which later became tribes...)

 

There is this science called GENETICS. Now you may have read about it somewhere in your experience.

 

DNA retains a HISTORY where you can determine the geographical locale where someone originates and whether or not they have a common ancestor.

 

It is remarkable that Jews all have certain identifying tags within their DNA of a common ancestor. Furthermore it is also remarkable that the Ashkenazi Jews also have the same Genetic Information in their DNA.

 

Now you can deny the EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE if you desire.

 

I was going to actually WASTE MY TIME and give you the links to the well known research on the matter.

 

But since I am bored I think that I will let you do some work on the Internet for a change...if you are really interested. Other than that you can remain in ignorance. At this point I really cannot care less.

 

I will just enjoy some good laughter at your expense.

Mon, 11/17/2014 - 02:45 | 5456338 conscious being
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Easy to demonstrate you are full of baloney. You claim all Jews have common genetic markers. Of course they do not. What about converts? Converts sudddenly get these Magic Markers of yours? No they don't. So how significant is conversion to the make up of the Jews? Khazaria converted en-mass. Cyrene led a Jewishrevolt against the Romans. Read some Prof. Shlomo Sand.

http://www.haaretz.com/general/shattering-a-national-mythology-1.242015

Sat, 11/15/2014 - 17:45 | 5452386 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Canadian Prime Ministers have cojones, we have to admit.

Yes, the cojones of the US President, resting on their chin.

Sat, 11/15/2014 - 18:35 | 5452529 Latina Lover
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+10,000!!

Sat, 11/15/2014 - 20:49 | 5452707 dicksburnt
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what Putin said to Harper was:  "you really need a breath mint because your breath smells just like american ass"

Sat, 11/15/2014 - 18:06 | 5452453 OLD YELLER
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Some do, but this one is goose stepping in lock sync with Amereeka. It makes the propaganda more effective than if, say Ohbummer! uttered it. So.. Steve gets to play the "Mouth of Sauron" and will be compensated for it in due time.                                                          

Sat, 11/15/2014 - 18:36 | 5452528 Latina Lover
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Quoting Escrava:  Canadian Prime Ministers (sic) have cojones, we have to admit.

 

You are kidding, Right?  Do you actually think that Putin will give up on millions of russians in the Ukraine  because Harper wouldn't shake his hand?  This is not cojones, just Harper being stupid, the actions of a USSA controlled stooge.   Harper will never be in the room when the real deals are cut to resolve the so called Ukrainian question,  Don't be suprised if the Ukie oligarchs are sitting on the same side of the table as Putin this time next year.

Sat, 11/15/2014 - 19:41 | 5452728 Bangalore Equit...
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Listen.

"Canadian Prime Ministers have cojones, we have to admit."

Jesus "FUCK YOU" already! It's taken me a while to sour against you but this is it.

FUCK CANADA and FUCK YOU!

Sat, 11/15/2014 - 20:59 | 5452903 Escrava Isaura
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Gee whizz!!! No one with a sense of humor here, today.

 

Ouch.

 

“… Cut the humans some slack. 100 thousand years ago we used to live in caves. Actually, some still do” -- Lawrence Maxwell Krauss 

 

Sat, 11/15/2014 - 22:52 | 5453177 armageddon addahere
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When we believed the human race was the pinnacle of God's creation, we had something to live up to. Now that we are a bunch of souped up monkeys, nobody seems to care what they do.

Sat, 11/15/2014 - 23:07 | 5453217 espirit
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Touchy feely subjects require the /s tag on drunk nights.

Sat, 11/15/2014 - 23:51 | 5453346 Escrava Isaura
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armageddon addahere

… human race was the pinnacle of God's creation

 

Glad that you woke up from the indoctrination.

 

Knowledge is liberating, isn't it?

 

Sat, 11/15/2014 - 20:56 | 5452897 BraveSirRobin
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Alaric - you dictator loving SOB... Lithuania is an independent nation that has been invaded and occupied by Russians many time over the centuries, and is now part of NATO because they fear another Russian invasion and occupation. Lithuania INVITED, ney, begged, for NATO forces to be deployed in THEIR country. Ukraine did NOT ask for Russian forces to be in Ukraine. If you cannot see the stark difference here, you are a moron. If you can, you just love dictatoriships and expansionist empires.

Sun, 11/16/2014 - 01:37 | 5453560 Shipwrecked
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BottomSirRubbing, Lithuania switched overlords, willingly inviting NATO. Good luck getting out. All dissenters will be declared terrrsst and treated accordingly. Staying nutral was not an option? Paranoid much?

On the other hand, Crimean and South Eastern populations did not want to live under illegal post-coup neo-Nazi goverment, conducted referendums and INVITED, literally begged Russia to protect them and to become part of Russia. As you cannot see the stark difference here, you prove yourself to be a moron.

Expansionist empire? You at least got that right. Count the number of US and NATO bases arount the world. Then count Russian bases outside their territory and compare. Even moron like you should see the difference. 

Sat, 11/15/2014 - 16:48 | 5452246 A Lunatic
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That is a cock gazing look if there ever was one.........

Sat, 11/15/2014 - 17:36 | 5452369 dogbreath
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If sombody has a CBC comment account would they please link Zerohedge.  3500 comments at CBC on this and we need new blood.  I feel like a hutterite wondering why my kids are dumb.

Sun, 11/16/2014 - 11:22 | 5454131 matrix2012
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'

"If sombody has a CBC comment account would they please link Zerohedge. ..."

 

I have and I wish to do so, unfortunately after " 6513 Comments, 

Commenting is now closed for this story."

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/stephen-harper-at-g20-tells-vladimir-putin-...

Sat, 11/15/2014 - 17:55 | 5452420 crazzziecanuck
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Putin’s response to the comment wasn’t positive, MacDonald said, without elaborating. Putin and Harper talked briefly, according to Putin’s spokesman Dmitry Peskov.

 

Any length is too long.

I despise my PM but Canadians too stupid to vote him out of office.

Sat, 11/15/2014 - 19:36 | 5452712 palmereldritch
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Harper is a Royalist tool...but to vote him out of office to be replaced by gun-grabbing carbon taxing Liberals?

He's the best of the three...that's what is truly scary

Sun, 11/16/2014 - 05:09 | 5453758 zerohedgejjxxzz12
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I always say at election time " Are these the best Canadates we can find to run the Country"

 Truly a shame.

Sun, 11/16/2014 - 09:10 | 5453926 Rakshas
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Remember this from a couple years ago??  http://rabble.ca/blogs/bloggers/judes/2011/06/senate-page-explains-her-b...

...... all that is required for evil to triumph is that good men do nothing....... 

and one from a bumper sticker a couple decades ago  ....... Elect but never re-elect

Sat, 11/15/2014 - 17:57 | 5452430 Joenobody12
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Very funny how the Canadians view Mr. Harper. And we thought Obola is despised. 

Sat, 11/15/2014 - 20:01 | 5452771 MayIMommaDogFac...
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Blame Canada!  Blame Canada!

lol...cannot believe no one else posted this

Sat, 11/15/2014 - 18:26 | 5452488 August
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There's zero question as to who benefits from conflict in Europe, and who benefits from peace.

Putin indeed is an ex-KGB authoritarian, but he and Russia are the parties who most want peace in Ukraine.  Every dead Ukrainian - man, woman or child - is a tribute to American aggression on Zbig's "grand chessboard".  And to your tax dollars.

Keep rootin' for Putin!  (and minimize your funding of the US juggernaut)

Sat, 11/15/2014 - 19:45 | 5452736 Bangalore Equit...
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Listen.

+1000.

Sat, 11/15/2014 - 21:04 | 5452914 BraveSirRobin
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"Putin indeed is an ex-KGB authoritarian, but he and Russia are the parties who most want peace in Ukraine."

Sarcasm... right?

I woudl have thought the Ukranians were the party that most desired peace in the Ukraine. Call me crazy.

And Zibig-who? He has not bee relevant for a third of a century. And even when he was relevant, he was rather ineffectual.

Russia wants the re-establish its empire. They consider Ukraine to be part of Russia. Russian special forces invaded Crimea. Russian special forces and paratrooper are in Ukraine. 

And don't give me crap that US special forces are in Ukraine. IF they are, they are their by invitation of the government. Again, for the moronic and morally obtuse, there is a HUGE difference.

Stop cheerleading for dictators. If you do not think highly of the current US regime, how can you possibly root for Russia and Putin? Stupidity or hypocracy are the only explanations. 

Sat, 11/15/2014 - 23:06 | 5453220 Latina Lover
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Hmmm, wasn't it the US backed nazi's that overthrew Yanukovich and installed an openly hostile government on russia's doorstep? 

What I find really amusing about the rabid ukie types, is their inability to self analyse. After losing Crimea, Donbass, wasting billions on a military defeat, tens of thousands ukies killed and injured,  and seeing prices   more double as the hyrnia crumbles, one might re consider their actions.  But to me, it seems that the ukies are determined to be the white niggers of europe, a slave underclass to their american and israeli masters.  Enjoy the american empire boot on your neck, I  am sure that it will feel better for not being Russian, LOL.

Sun, 11/16/2014 - 09:36 | 5453969 Rakshas
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...... so two bears are eating a clown when one bear looks at the other and says - does this taste funny to you ??

..... thank you I'm here til thursday....

 

But seriously LL US backed Nazi regime is an old theme - funding for the Rise of the german national socialist party, Bolshevik Revolution, Chairman Mao all sponsored by our friends on Wall Street US of A - though I would now really call them americans without prefixing with  "Traitorous" rather I think it can be reasonably established that Wall street controllers are merely stationed in the continental USA to oversee the mining of all its riches as they now cast their eyes toward the remaining resource rich environments of Eurasia.....   

 

Sun, 11/16/2014 - 03:38 | 5453661 Shipwrecked
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UK PM said large country is harassing small country, comparing Russia to Nazi Germany. Western propaganda now is more developed and pervasive than Goebbels could had ever dreamed of achieving. Brainwashed sheeple swallow any garbage fed to them, no matter how ridiculous and hypocritical that might be.

Large country (US) can waltz in any smaller country (take your pick of rather long list), drone them, bomb them, create and equip groups what can be declared "rebel", "freedom fighters", "terrsts" or all of the above, destabilize and/or remove legitimate governments. Is it not a tad hypocritical for Western politicians to compare Nazi Germany with Russia which lost 20 million people in that war, while Kiev regime is including open neo Nazi groups in government and armed forces? Predominantly Russian speaking regions of Ukraine rejected the coup government which worships Bandera (WWII Nazi collaborator) and voted for independence. Ukraine immediately started punitive operation to bomb South East into submission. What happened to the right to self-determination? Why Western Countries condone shelling with powerful munitions of residential areas, schools, hospitals? Where is the outrage of women and children being slaughtered daily? Ah... It must be Putin doing that.

I am waiting with bated breath for Victoria Nuland showing up in Madrid, followed by massive bombing of Barcelona a few days later. You know, more than 80% of Catalans are terrrrst. Darn, should have visited Barcelona before it is "freed" by NATO forces.

Russia crossed the line by messing up US plans in Syria. Ukraine is a payback. As simple as that. Everything else is fluff. US and EU value Ukraine only as a tool to inflict pain on Russia. Do they want failed state Ukraine to become permanent drain, a beggar member, joining already fragile system stretched to the limit? I doubt they do. Germany and other top tier EU members already have enough toilet cleaners and welfare leeches.

Once Russia surrenders or convinces the West that it will never surrender, Ukraine will be dropped by its current benefactors like used condom. Russian sanctions will go away and Russia will be given a task of rebuilding whatever is left of Ukraine and supporting it for the foreseeable future.

People, don't be so gullible. Do you believe that government would never lie to you? If history is not your strong suit, just look at what kind of people are getting to the top echelons of power. There are no saints in there, not even Putin. But it was not Putin that started this mess in Ukraine. If US did not spent $5 Billion on fomenting unrest in Ukraine, South East would be at peace and Russia would continue paying rent for its base in Crimea as it did for many years before the coup. Europeans are as much losers as Russia in this debacle. I guess they don't mind to hear "Fuck the EU" until they run out of vaseline made out of Russian oil.

Sun, 11/16/2014 - 11:50 | 5454187 matrix2012
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Shipwrecked

 

EXCELLENT brief yet comprehensive summary!!

+ 100

Sun, 11/16/2014 - 00:25 | 5453419 Amerikan Patriot
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Good for Harper.  Vlad needs to hear the truth, even if it hurts. 

In a perfect world, the irascible Vlad hears the same message from every first world leader, capital continues to flee Russia in 2015 and beyond, the Russian economy goes into a brutal recession, the ruble falls even further into the toilet, Vlad spends the last dime of his currency reserves trying to prop it up, and then sells his gold to inquiring minds - like me! - for a paltry sum.

Perhaps the diminutive Vlad can bolster his self esteem by judo-flipping a few flacid, compliant lads to the mat - or pretend his remade Soviet Union is a great power again by sending bombers and fighters to the edge of Western airspace. 

God Bless America!

Sun, 11/16/2014 - 01:11 | 5453511 Savyindallas
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idiot

Sun, 11/16/2014 - 11:49 | 5454188 matrix2012
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A useful idiot!

Sun, 11/16/2014 - 18:16 | 5455162 Amerikan Patriot
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Bob, I've got logic and reason. 

You've got epithets.

See the difference?

Sun, 11/16/2014 - 20:59 | 5455620 StychoKiller
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Logic is of no avail if yer premises are incorrect.

Sun, 11/16/2014 - 03:18 | 5453636 angel_of_joy
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To AP, with full consideration.

Regards,

GD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1BS7XnEZqc

Sun, 11/16/2014 - 05:18 | 5453765 zerohedgejjxxzz12
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The Broke Amerika you speak of will confiscate any gold you have, if you can even get your hands on any with that counterfit FRN. Im sure Russia and China won't part with any! 

Sun, 11/16/2014 - 14:34 | 5454568 11b40
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Come back and let's talk in the spring after Europe thaws out from the coming winter.

Sat, 11/15/2014 - 17:51 | 5452408 Payne
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Putin destroyed Harper without coming to blows.  The goal of every martial practicioner. 

Sat, 11/15/2014 - 19:21 | 5452682 PeakOil
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Obsequious sums up Harper's personality well.

I trust Putin told Harper to go fuck himself. Pandering POS sycophant we have for a PM.

 

 

Sat, 11/15/2014 - 20:43 | 5452870 emersonreturn
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O Kanada!

Sun, 11/16/2014 - 11:41 | 5454172 darkpool2
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Harper is just a little boy wearing grown up clothing. He has some infantile inner needs to be accepted by the bigger boys around him.

Sat, 11/15/2014 - 15:57 | 5452132 TheAnalOG
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Harper and Baird, always playing tough guy.  Like the lippy little kids mouthing off everyone expecting their bigger friends to jump in....

Sat, 11/15/2014 - 16:16 | 5452178 angel_of_joy
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Canada has a well established tradition of idiotic prime ministers, and the current one is no exception. They all think they can punch above their height & weight, however after all their antics are played and done with, they end up looking invariably silly...

Sat, 11/15/2014 - 16:48 | 5452245 max2205
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Politicians just get us in trouble. ..no value added

Sat, 11/15/2014 - 18:19 | 5452492 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Canada has a well established tradition of idiotic prime ministers, and the current one is no exception.

Idiotic in varying degrees, sure. Their defining characteristic, though, is a complete obedience of and submission to the US of A.

They all think they can punch above their height & weight

I think Harper was shaking like a maple leaf, too afraid even to look Putin in the eye while delivering his rehearsed line. No doubt he put his ultra-absorbent adult diaper to the test. Harper wasn't displaying defiance, he was displaying submission.

Just like in a dog pack, where the male dogs must exhibit their submission to the pack leader, today it was Harper's turn to submit. On hands and knees, he offered his tender ass to alpha male Barack Obama by demonstrating his adhesion to the lie that is the US narrative regarding MH17.

All of the Western 'leaders' must occasionally make such public displays of cowering obedience. Imagine their humiliation in 2017 when the alpha male is Hillary Clinton, and they're forced to submit to her strap-on, a.k.a. Democracy's Dildo.

Sat, 11/15/2014 - 19:57 | 5452761 conscious being
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They invite somebody like Harper out to a campfire, bust out the little kids and roll video. After that, somebody like Harper is owned, lock, stock and barrel, ready to do whatever for his owners. And that's how you get to be PM of Canada.

Sat, 11/15/2014 - 20:16 | 5452797 gadzooks
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Its more elaborate than licking USA ass, its always well chosen puppet-tards

to maintain the colonial economics Status Quo.

Sat, 11/15/2014 - 22:16 | 5453101 thestarl
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Applies to the fuckwit Australian PM to

Sat, 11/15/2014 - 18:05 | 5452452 Carpenter1
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I'm Canadian and can tell you Putin doesn't know what he's messing with. At any time, Harper could call out our beaver and gopher powered war machines from hell and rain down so much maple syrup on Russia they'll regret the day they ever messed with Canada.

He might just wanna give us a few weeks notice though, we need the beavers right now to help build some hockey rinks in Saskatchewan. But after that.......POW!!!!

MAPLE SYRUP BLAST OFF!!!

Muahahahaha!!!

Sat, 11/15/2014 - 17:02 | 5452274 Earl Slaughter-...
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“I guess I’ll shake your hand but I have only one thing to say to you: you need to get out of Ukraine.”

Low-class, arrogant POS lying M.F.-- and I thought our US Prez's Bush and Obama were bad. How low has Canada sunk in but a few years... So much for our possibility to escape to a "much more civilized" neighbor up North. Where is safe from these damn neo-con corporatists? Do we really have to look to Russia as a bastion of Freedom? Really?

Sat, 11/15/2014 - 17:25 | 5452328 barndoor
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This one sentence, uttered off-hand by a sigle individual, somehow entails the end of civilization in Canada? 

Do you think you might be reading a little too much into this?

Sat, 11/15/2014 - 18:48 | 5452570 Latina Lover
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Really? You think that when Harper is officially quoted during a meeting of the supposedly most important nations in the world, that his lines are anything BUT scripted?  Harper did nothing more than prove his irrelevancy to settling the Ukie question.

Harpers actions remind me of the famous quote that it is better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and confirm it.

Sat, 11/15/2014 - 20:01 | 5452769 conscious being
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Harper is knowingly, building on tensions, backed by lies, to antagonize an already, justifiably pissed-off nuclear power. What an ass.

Sun, 11/16/2014 - 00:28 | 5453434 Amerikan Patriot
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Vlad says, "I'm going to huff, and I'm going to puff, and I'm going to....judo-flip some of my more compliant and subservient men to the mat in a display of my diminutive machisimo!"

That'll teach 'em!   :-)

Sat, 11/15/2014 - 17:31 | 5452330 barndoor
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*

Sat, 11/15/2014 - 19:06 | 5452628 stant
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Eastern front here we come

Sun, 11/16/2014 - 09:33 | 5453966 post turtle saver
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another Sunday, another cheap shot from the RTylers on RTHedge... guys, this schtick is getting old, how about some real objective analysis for a change? we used to get that here, now it's just the Pooty Channel 24/7

Sun, 11/16/2014 - 10:04 | 5454012 Aeternus
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Are you ready for the THIRD WORLD WAR?!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPkn656Utco

Sun, 11/16/2014 - 11:05 | 5454102 MEAN BUSINESS
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I thought for sure it would link Canadian Colin James 'Chicks, cars, and The Third World War'

but nice vids from the ISS.

Here's an instru mental for you, it's a little meaner lol, the Main Monkey Business

Sat, 11/15/2014 - 15:42 | 5452090 Nocturnal Goyim
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He's more than happy with the US being involved there though???

Sat, 11/15/2014 - 16:06 | 5452152 Sudden Debt
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Or Canadians who get robbed by the Amrican police when they cross tte border, no problem there also....

Sat, 11/15/2014 - 16:16 | 5452175 Spitzer
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Or the cb of canada devaluing the CAD to give the Seppos a 10 to 15% discount on oil

Sat, 11/15/2014 - 15:44 | 5452091 general ambivalent
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When the nerds become the bullies you know something has really gone wrong.

Sat, 11/15/2014 - 17:12 | 5452298 Defiated
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Who says wearing a 'Toupee' doesn't give you more confidence!!!

Sat, 11/15/2014 - 15:44 | 5452095 RickTome
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Harper is such a spineless worm I almost vomit everytime I see his smug face.

 

Sat, 11/15/2014 - 15:49 | 5452118 Urban Redneck
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I didn't realize they had albino niggers in Canada, much let that the voting debt serfs were dumb enough to entrust them with high office.

How many Canadians need to die before the country puts a mature responsible adult in charge?

Sat, 11/15/2014 - 15:53 | 5452121 umdesch4
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As a Canadian, there are some things that Canada has brought to the world that I'm proud of. When it comes to Harper, I just want to say "we're sorry aboot that, eh?"

Sat, 11/15/2014 - 17:10 | 5452292 Defiated
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Harper has a womens lips.....thats why Benjy, The Nutty-Yahoo, loves him so much!!

Sat, 11/15/2014 - 15:44 | 5452098 vyeung
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Western fascists are pulling all strings, but it bullocks. China/Russia tag team and the unofficial BRICS meet is the more important agenda. This G20 meet is routine show of we haven't disintegrated into WW3 yet. Canada trying to play hardball is simply all show and no substance.

Sat, 11/15/2014 - 16:26 | 5452203 BrosephStiglitz
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Plenty of blame to go around on both sides.  I fear that we are going to see a fissioning of the global trade system.  BRICS and pals on one side and Western Europe, North America and pals on the other.

The politicians, chasing power over common sense, are going to get a lot of people killed.

Sat, 11/15/2014 - 17:03 | 5452278 dracos_ghost
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Right out of Orwell. These guys have no creativity.

Sat, 11/15/2014 - 18:39 | 5452541 BrosephStiglitz
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Sure.  It could be a big elaborate scam.  A need to "unify" the globe.  OR...

It could be genuine animosity between key players.

I've never read Orwell, but I do think that a split down the middle between resource rich and largely (underdeveloped) countries, and developed, resource poor countries seems likely.

Sat, 11/15/2014 - 23:20 | 5453251 espirit
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Take the heat off of the USSA.  Putin will nuke Kanada first after this diss.

Sat, 11/15/2014 - 17:17 | 5452307 vyeung
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sad thing is all the citizens in the West get along just fine with the citizens in the East and the only frigging mofos that are causing the shitty problems are the criminal politicians and their global agenda. As mentioned they are going to flip the dame table so everyone's in the shit hole so they get their way. Sigh........

Sat, 11/15/2014 - 15:45 | 5452099 Rikeska
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In Pic 2 Pooty Puut said to Obama "Jelly or Syrup?".

 

Sat, 11/15/2014 - 16:17 | 5452107 OW My Balls
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After I pull Reggie Love's dick out of my @ss & put away this spliff, my cornhole will have more flexibility.

Sat, 11/15/2014 - 15:48 | 5452108 buzzsaw99
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he doesn't have the ballz to tell the usa to get out of the 57+ countries we occupy though. what a brown noser.

Sat, 11/15/2014 - 15:48 | 5452109 Goldilocks
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Eye witnesses to Pope Francis killing and eating babies in Satanic rituals
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mOQOR8kupk (14:43)

Kevin Annett: Canada PM Harper Cabinet Minister Denis Lebel in Ninth Circle child sacrifice in Rome
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IeOvhYflbk (18:11)

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