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Canada's PM To Putin: "I Guess I'll Shake Your Hand..." Putin's Response "Was Not Positive"
Following last week's (humiliating for the US) APEC meeting in Beijing, in which the BRIC nations clearly distanced themselves from the "developed world" and the topic of the "Russian invasion of Ukraine" was largely missing as it is clearly not in the interest of the Pacific nations to warmonger when the two key nations, Russia and China are obviously not complying with the western media 'straight to populism' narrative, it was time for another major world summit, this time in the quite "western" Brisbane, Australia.
It was here that the G-7 part of the G-20 nations seized the opportunity to quickly pivot against Moscow and remind Europe that the reason why Europe is in a triple-dip recession (if one removes the GDP "boost" from hookers and blow) is because of Russia's "take over" of east Ukraine, ignoring the reality that it was the US State Department's Victoria Nuland that incited the Kiev coup and the west that imposed the "costly" sanctions on Russia which have hurt Germany and Europe just as badly. This was all largely lost on the local, as outside the summit, Ukrainian Australians staged an anti-Putin protest, wearing headbands reading "Putin, Killer".
It was a full court press from the start: as the NYT reports, "at a speech at a university in Brisbane, Mr. Obama called Russia’s aggression against Ukraine a “threat to the world, as we saw in the appalling shootdown of MH-17, a tragedy that took so many innocent lives, among them your fellow citizens,” a reference to the Australian citizens and residents who were killed when Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 went down in eastern Ukraine.
“As your ally and friend, America shares the grief of these Australian families, and we share the determination of your nation for justice and accountability,” Mr. Obama said."
This charade was set to continue Sunday, when leaders from the European Union planned to meet with Mr. Obama to discuss Ukraine, among other issues, said Herman Van Rompuy, the president of the European Council. He said the European Union was committed to finding a political solution to the crisis.
“We will continue to use all the diplomatic tools, including sanctions, at our disposal,” he said.
Indeed, as Reuters adds "Western leaders warned Vladimir Putin at a G20 summit on Saturday that he risked more economic sanctions if he failed to end Russian backing for separatist rebels in Ukraine."
But perhaps the best confirmation that all the G-20 meeting was nothing but a giant populist photo-op comes from Bloomberg which reports that "Russian President Vladimir Putin got a blunt message when he approached Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper for a handshake at today’s Group of 20 summit in Brisbane, Australia.
“I guess I’ll shake your hand but I have only one thing to say to you: you need to get out of Ukraine,” Harper told Putin, the prime minister’s spokesman Jason MacDonald said in an e-mail.
Putin’s response to the comment wasn’t positive, MacDonald said, without elaborating. Putin and Harper talked briefly, according to Putin’s spokesman Dmitry Peskov.
“Indeed Harper told Putin that Russia should leave Ukraine,” Peskov said by phone today in Brisbane. “Putin told him that this is impossible because they are not there.”
Asked about the tone of the meeting between the two leaders, Peskov said “it was within the bounds of decency.”
Say no more.
Russian President Vladimir Putin, right, walks past Canadian Prime Minister
Stephen Harper, left, during a welcoming ceremony at the G-20 summit in Brisbane.
Yet at the end of the day, captioned photo-op or not, one wonders how much of all the front-page drama is even remotely real when every single time the west goes on the "offensive" against Putin with "costs" just to have a convenient scapegoat for Europe's ongoing depression, one hears in the back of one head the following exchange:
Obama: "This is my last election. After my election I have more flexibility."
Medvedev: "I understand. I will transmit this information to Vladimir"
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Yea I saw that video and I been following ITCCS.org on facebook. There's a gay murderer who sent body parts to Canadian PM Harper whose trial was in September. Must have something to do with Harper being involved in satanic rituals of the Ninth Circle cult. In fact, Bush Jr also got away clean in the Brownsville satanic murders of 17 people in 1984. Our leaders are a bunch of satanic worshippers.
Ha, I called this up thread. Harper's got that shit-eating grin of somebody who has done some awful stuff. Now he's just a zombie nwo tool. Like the Gimp in the box in Pulp Fiction, they pull him out when they need him.
Kevin Annett is a kook and a fraud. You need to vet your sources a little better.
Ok I'll ask the pedophile pope. Wait, he's apparently at a party because "Heaven's a Party!" That or he's schizophrenic. http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2014/11/14/Heaven-Will-Be-a-Party-Say...
>>>Canada PM Harper Cabinet Minister Denis Lebel in Ninth Circle child sacrifice in Rome
Now that's low, even for the Canadian Cabinet.
Canadian Cabinet Help Wanted: Muslim terrorist shooters/actors. Must know where national landmarks are. Experience a plus (the CIA or the British Crown). Urgent!
Truth be told, they are not that selective.
All they need to do is visit the local homeless shelter and find a drug-addict who needs a fix. The poor "actor" wakes up as the star on everybody's reality television set.
The Western fascists truly think the people are morons and believe they have forgotten about the coup, Nazi support in Ukraine, stole central bank gold as well as its reserves. I guess Putin will put up with you considering you have an election coming up (better you in office than those crazy Nazi neo-cons).
hear hear !!
Yob tvoyu mat, Harper. Go pound sand.
Wow, Canada, kickin names and takin' ass.
More like Harper sidekick, John Baird, is giving ass!
...when gunshots rang out in Ottawa at the Parliament Buildings our brave leader , Harper, was found hiding in the 'closet'....but hey, he apparently
didn't Shit Himself...Bravo!!
Putin running a marathon, patiently.
Obama "mastering" putt putt golf.
Obama and Putin are clearly working together. It looks like the fat Frau is also on their team. I am not sure if any of the rest are in the inner circle of betrayal.
They appear to be intentionally destroying the west.
>>>Putin running a marathon, patiently.
Indeed.
A major reason (and perhaps the most important one) that Putin hasn't squashed Kiev militarily is that, far down the road, he and Russia genuinely want Ukraine as a friendly neighbor, or at least a neutral one.
It's the US oligarchy and MIC that want war in Europe, and want it badly. I just hope the US elite is happy with a new Cold War, and doesn't start WW3.
I read yesterday that it was Cameron who snubbed Putin. Was it both British lackeys or was it just one?
The dumbasses keep poking the bear; and I'm sure they're asking themselves "what could possibly go wrong?"
Harper is apparently a Wanker
Or maybe he is just not allowed to have the information that the adults have
harper is a wanker and he is not allowed to have info etc.
cameron, harper, abbott can't say much for the people that elected this bunch of losers
Harper is a wanker whose best achievement is to bring fascism to Canada and subverting Canadian interests to please his masters in Washington.
Well done doggie. Now go and lick Obama.
The definition of contemporary fascism places and explains what is called The Conservative Party of Canada. Caught in continuing election fraud and irregularity, the Conservative government refuses to bring in changes put forward by Elections Canada. The Conservative Party clearly intends, we may assume, to win another election by fraud. That is wholly consistent with a fascist organization. Though it seems to be a contradiction, a fascist state will use ‘popular election’ as long as it can – however much it tampers with it and makes it fraudulent.
Then the rulers can posture and prate about “free societies” and “democratic countries”. It can pretend it is acting by “the will of the people” – as this Conservative government regularly insists it is doing.
What Canadians see more and more is a parade of fraud and deception, of disinformation and lies, of government secrecy and of growing repression. All those things are undertaken to mask the corporate looting of Canada, the unregulated violation of the Canadian environment, and governmental sacrifice of the vulnerable – whether the working people, the aged, the unemployed, or even the wounded and crippled military veterans being tossed aside by a brutal Conservative administration.
All of those things are related. Only the naïve or the bribed continue to believe they are not all connected … and intended.
The name given to the overall program may stick in the throats of many Canadians who want neither to face the truth nor to take up the battle that has to be fought. But the program is, like it or not, a fascist program tailored to the contemporary world as it exists in Canada.
http://powellriverpersuader.blogspot.com/2013/07/fascism-and-contemporar...
Ha in Canada we have a democracy three parties that i wont vote for
Canada is run my unelected "advisors". Just like the US. Or Iran.
Want your mind blown Watch this video FULL LENGTH The Vatican rules the world
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Philip Dick, the sci-fi author, had the epiphany that the Roman Empire never died. We're going to find out exactly the scope of the out-of-this-world Pyramid scheme.
Canadian sovereignty over the years has been reduced to it being an American protectorate. Since the election of Brian Mulroney, the NAFTA agreement, then the years following the merger of the Reform Party and the Progressive Conservative Party, now known as the Conservative Party, Canadian sovereignty has been eroded. The interim few weak Liberal governments are a blip in the historical perspective and really did nothing but tow the line. Canada is nothing more then an American protectorate, the Northern No Fly Zone, a Northern propaganda beacon and the history of Canadian peace keeping and the Blues Berets are forgotten and never enter the current narrative in Canadian politics. Canada, the 51st state and proud of it. You just have to look at the actions of their leaders and the truth of Canada's submissive position to America froths from the mouths of every Conservative in Canada!
This U.S. lackey, Harper better wake up about Canada's North and the coming confrontation with Russia over the oil and gas reserves in the High Arctic. He should be giving Putin the respect he deserves. This ignorant little toady only pay attention to what the U.S and Israel tell him to. Gone are the days when Canada was respected on the world stage in its own right. What a national disgrace Harper is.
I was about to say, is Canada just a vassal state of the US?
Putin holds some powerful cards and could bankrupt the Ukraine if he wanted to.
http://rt.com/politics/official-word/205887-putin-interview-sanctions-uk...
Putin:
By the way, you have mentioned Ukraine, which is a striking example of the current situation in this sphere. Russian banks have currently extended a $25 billion loan to the Ukrainian economy. If our European and American partners want to help Ukraine, how can they undermine the financial base limiting our financial institutions’ access to world capital markets? Do they want to bankrupt our banks? In that case they will bankrupt Ukraine. Have they thought about what they are doing at all or not? Or has politics blinded them? As we know eyes constitute a peripheral part of brain. Was something switched off in their brains?
The bank that I mentioned is Gazprombank, which only this year, this calendar year, has extended a loan of $1.4 plus $1.8 billion to the Ukrainian energy sector. How much is that in total? $3.2 billion. This is the sum it has allocated. In one case, it issued a loan to Ukrainian Naftogaz, which is a public company; in the other case, it allocated $1.4 billion to a private company in order to support Ukraine’s chemical industry. In both cases, today this bank has the right to demand early repayment because the Ukrainian partners have violated their loan agreement. As for Naftogaz…
Hubert Seipel: The question is if they are paying or not?
Vladimir Putin: (In German) They are paying at the moment. (Continues in Russian) They are servicing the loan. Naftogaz is servicing one of the loans. However, there are some conditions that are being violated. Therefore, the bank has the formal right to demand early repayment.
In the second case they are doing nothing to repay the $1.4 billion. The government is holding the gas in an underground storage facility and does not give it to its industry. It is their own business that they are crippling their chemical industry. It is also not good to leave people without jobs, but it is their business. However, as the gas does not reach the consumer, as it is not paid for, our bank does not get the money back. It has the right to demand an early repayment. But if we do it, the whole Ukrainian financial system will collapse. And if we don’t do it, our bank may collapse. What should we do?
Below the surface of the theater of the absurd in our Parliamentary democracy we have a shadow government in terms of the neocons
and the Conservative Party of CANADA. If people examine the record
they will find that Harper came to power through a conspiracy to take over the Progressive Conservative Party of CANADA via a fraud on the election
that was forced upon the Progressive Conservative Party membership.
The vote was rigged and the election was rigged with no oversight from Elections CANADA whatsoever. David Orchard attempted to halt the takeover, but controlled Courts and administration made sure it went nowhere. This coup manifested just before George Bush came to power and instigated war and terrorism as global agendas. I have always viewed Harper as a functionary of the energy sector in CANADA. ENBRIDGE is essentially the corporation that has bought and paid for Harper to be installed at the helm in CANADA. Harper lists his assets at $5 million since he entered politics. He will be leaving office in 2015 and will likely go directly into a higher paying gig.
Putin: "You are the Prime Minister of a small nation that is a toupee to the U.S.A., and your citizens can't decide if they are loyal to the British monarchy or the French language.
You approach me and tell me to leave a country in my back yard that I am not in, but you cannot tell the imperialist nation you are attached to that it should stop droning children and spying on it's own citizens?
You are fortunate I am polite enough to shake your hand and act as though you matter."
Too bad Putin didn't open hand slap that SOB.
aka 'Bitch Slap'!!
It took all of Putin's patience to not rip Harpers arm off and stuff it up Barry's ass.
Putin should have refused to shake hands with Harper after Harper's insult.
@ebworthen
I would love to think that is what Putin said!
K@
"I will break you."
Sounds like Harper gets his marching orders from the war mongering kabal at the US Stete Dept.
Harpre is a Joke! another US puppet!
Maybe Harpre shold ask the Canadians how they feel about being so entwined with the biggest terr oist in the world!
Oh ya but you would need true democracy to do that.
So in todays day and age, nothing is true. Who do you believe? Who has a bigger incentive to lie about the Ukraine. heck we cannot even find out what really happened to the MH17. Within hours of the crash the entire western media was stating that Russia did it!
So truth does not matter any more.We have Lying Gov's in bed and controlled by corporations that use the MSM who easily con the sheeple. How do we really get the truth?
We have to look at who would benifit the most by the situation, the US is always involved and of course they are the ones who would benifit the most, so I feel that they are the liers.
But how do we really know for sure?
I encourage all to read the book "Confessions of an economic hitman" by John Perkins
There are some very interesting events about the US and there tactics abroad, ripping off other countries for their resources, killing presidents and installing presidents who are puppets.
I am so happy to see a country as big as Russia standing up to the west's lies!
I am Canadian
If we voted in the staunchest of anti Americans, NOTHING would change, Just look at France
When is the last time France had an anti-American president? Chirac opposed the Iraq war (but then so did Germany and not because they were anti-American but because they understood we would pay a terrbie price in destabiizing the place -- and so we have) but was not notably ani-American otherwise.
Only de Gaulle was a major thorn in our side -- but even he considered the US an ally when push came to shove, and indeed his backed the US completely in the Cuban missile crisis.
Question: "How do you act toward a 900 lb. gorilla to whom you're joined at the hip?"
Answer: "Politely."
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These fools should learn to stop hectoring their betters. Has nobody ever told them how irritating it is to see a 13 year-old know-all lecturing a 40 year-old University scholar?
Vlad, you now have the green light to impale Harper.
Harper is not really our Prime Minister if one factors in that he engaged in fraud to take over the Federal Progressive Conservative Party. I reported the fraud to the Major Crimes Unit of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, but they found a lawyer in the Federal Government to state that the vote for the party merger was 'an internal party matter' and therefor the RCMP would not open a criminal file and investigate. CANADA has been leaderless
since the HarperCONS [read neocons] gained entry and destroyed the place. Harper is nothing without his crooked cronies in the USA and Israel.
Putin's reply
Our Prime Minister Harper has his tongue so far up 'Benjamin- the-Nutty-Yahoos' ass that, when he opens his mouth, you see 2 tongues (and not just one 'forked' one)
..but hey, its a three-some!!
Unfortunately, and I say this as a Canadian, Canada has seldom, if ever, in its history been an independent sovereign. It has been beholden to either the British or the Americans. We are used by TPTB to provide natural resources (and hockey players), but that's about it. The corporate and financial oligarchs of the West run and have been running this country since its inception. Harper is just another in a long line of puppets for those puppet masters...
As George Carlin so insightfully said, "It's all bullshit and it's bad for ya!"
http://olduvai.ca
The US has Obama, we have Harper. We are in the same boat. Once it is understood that, in the eyes of their puppet states, the US controls their world and in complying with US directives, they will be compensated in any number of ways. Failure to comply will result in the opposite. Therefore Abe, Abbott, Cameron, Harper, Merkel, Von Rompouy et al dutifully echo US foreign policy. There is no chivalry in western politics. It comes down to power and money. The problem is Russia and China won't play along and it is driving the neocons crazy enough to go to war. Yes, they are losing control and they are that crazy.
"Meanwhile, in the Black Sea, Russia sent a Su-24 jet which then simulated a missile attack against the USS Donald Cook. It carried a new device that rendered the ship literally deaf, dumb, and blind. The Russian aircraft repeated the same maneuver 12 times before flying away."
http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/11/14/time-to-hide-under-the-covers/
that was pretty cool if the story is accurate. the modern navy is obsolete, sitting ducks in a tub of water against a real military.
All 27 crew members submitted letters of resignation.
http://indian.ruvr.ru/2014_04_21/Russian-Su-24-scores-off-against-the-Am...
The "letters of resignation" story sounds like a Russian embellishment on a basically correct story, though I suppose having a Sukhoi make twelve close attack runs on your own defenseless ship could have that effect.
PUTIN'S RESPONSE: yea, but you are the prime minister of canada.
Knock Harper all day, but I'd take him as a POSident over that pile of dogshit polluting the white house right now.
By far, though, Putin could, would and should kick both of their sorry asses.
I would highly recommend doc movie called Ungrip. It has some of those unfortunate visual effects but the message and the subject matter is expressed fairly well.
It also has some passages in regards to the so called Canadian “independence”.
off topic
http://rt.com/news/205339-mh17-air-plane-malaysian/
How about the newly released sat photo that shows a Euk fighter jet shooting the MH17 down?
http://x22report.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/HD_Satellite_Image_MH17_...
Bingo! I hadn't seen that one yet.
Because it was exposed as Putin media lie propoganda material:
http://youtu.be/OP-ILBNwO6A
Too much failers there.
The Big Bang Never Happened Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUwytm8K0jI (10:54)
The Big Bang Never Happened Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZ-7HIxFZjQ (10:57)
The Big Bang Never Happened Part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhjP5Mt9Wac (10:58)
The Big Bang Never Happened Part 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86mM6106ypM (9:09)
The Big Bang Never Happened Part 5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXOtBAECkx0 (8:57)
The Big Bang Never Happened Part 6
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMzWlqEILSU (10:30)
The Big Bang Never Happened Part 7
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3v5-YoMc6A8 (10:53)
The Big Bang Never Happened Part 8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtUWiGmybII (7:03)
The Big Bang Never Happened Part 9
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXOy49snsKw (7:49)
Why did you stop taking your medicine?
Goldie, - while listening to part 1, I'd like to suggest https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7EAlTcZFwY
down 15. ZH definately is gone to shit. +1 Goldie
<---- blow me cock sucker
"Harper told Putin that Russia should leave Ukraine [...] Putin told him that this is impossible because they are not there"
Priceless.
Stick to your guns Vlad!!...Tell the puppets, to eat sh** and die.
As a Canadian, we're collectively sorry our PM sucks dick.
"“Putin told him that this is impossible because they are not there.”"
But in same time somehow magically in east Ukraine appears tanks that are only available in Russian army:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_d7m_Ua4wFo&feature=youtu.be&t=1m40s
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=332_1415576950
Also more and more soldiers, tanks armor, etc. appears - from where ? Nowhere? Some other dimmension? Or Russia - look at map: http://liveuamap.com/
And in same time Putin said that he will not allow Kyiv to destroy the militants of Donbass
http://www.gazeta.ru/politics/news/2014/11/15/n_6653621.shtml
So he admits he is organizing "seperatists"
If those tanks were not welcome I would agree with you.
Remember those history documentary movies where was shown Nazi & comunist propoganda movies where people where "welcoming their libirators"? Yeah... that's how their welcomed.
Clearly you know nothing of the demographics of Ukraine, or are a paid/brainwashed troll. Novorussia citizens support Russia through and through, and have always hated western ukrainian banderas. The country was destined to be broken in (at least) two, if you had paid attention to history.
I watched both of your propaganda videos. Y...A...W...N.
So, please tell me what evidence is there that any of those tanks were in the Ukraine? And under the command of Russian forces?
You are a dedicated propaganda artist from Latvia spreading the West's dirty lies to fill up the TV screens of propaganda "News" Channels.
Even if (repeat EVEN IF) Russia is supporting the separatists in East Ukraine, I agree with him since many of them speak Russian as their first language and obviously feel more at home with Russia than the failed nation under the fascist chocolate man "Poroshenko".
Self-determination is a fundamental right of all people in the world wherever they live. Only despots and dictators deny that.
Sorry, you lose.
"So, please tell me what evidence is there that any of those tanks were in the Ukraine? And under the command of Russian forces?"
So where do you think that video with tank that is only in Russian army and with "seperatist" flag on it and driving in city streets with Ukranian registration car numbers - could be taken?
Of course - hollywood - right?
"Even if (repeat EVEN IF) Russia is supporting the separatists in East Ukraine, I agree with him since many of them speak Russian as their first language and obviously feel more at home with Russia than the failed nation under the fascist chocolate man "Poroshenko"."
Just because they speak russian doesn't mean they support Putin regime and or want to be part of Russia, support seperatism, etc. Many of Ukranian soldiers who speak Russian admit they are now lookin up to Russia as enemy. Even Russians come to Ukraine in order to fight against Putin goons:
http://youtu.be/Opc4cSQC7Dw
"Sorry, you lose." :D Ha ha ha that was pathetic and you know that :)
"So where do you think that video with tank that is only in Russian army and with "seperatist" flag on it and driving in city streets with Ukranian registration car numbers - could be taken?"
In Uranus. Or perhaps in another galaxy of LED light bulbs.
That didn't even qualify nor as answer nor as argument. Only trolling from your side
There is no trolling from ZHers. You need to understand that ZH is full of good, right-thinking people who are seeing their countries and economies and the rest of the world - including the Ukraine - being systematically destroyed by criminal political slimeballs, banksters and 13th tribesters.
People see in Putin a proud national leader who is having the guts to stand up to our own criminals and who has over 80% support from his own population. That is enough to admire the guy, whatever else he might be.
Ask yourself, what would the USG do if Putin tried to set up shop in Cuba?
agree
Putin uses same tactics as US oligarch regime - only is more open in doing so - look "Putin Clings to Victory as Russia's Voter Turnout Exceeds 146%"
http://gawker.com/5864945/putin-clings-to-victory-as-russias-voter-turno...
But in Russia there is no oppositon, because everyone loves Putin regime, children with their uncles sing about Putin glory:
http://youtu.be/JwERsu7MQWo
If some political opposition appears than he get's arrested and jailed:
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/24/russian-opposition-leader-j...
If some russians starts to speak against regime then get's arrested:
http://youtu.be/Yc7TCxZh9eU
You must be mad not to love dear leader Kim jong... I mean... Putin, all media loves him becuase all media... well is owned by Putin regime:
All three TV channels are controlled by the state: the majority share of Channel One belongs to Rosimuschestvo (the Federal Agency for State Property Management). Other shareholders include National Media Group (controlled by the structures of Yuri Kovalchuk, Chairman of the Board of Rossiya Bank, one of the largest banks in Russia, and Vladimir Putin’s personal friend; and Roman Abramovich, owner of Chelsea football club and Putin’s ally). Rossiya 2 is a part of VGTRK (All-Russia State Television and Radio Broadcasting Company) which is owned by Rosimushchestvo. NTV is also controlled by the state through Gazprom Media. TNT and Pyatiy Kanal that come respectively fourth and fifth in the top TV channels by audience reach, are also controlled by the state. TNT belongs to Gazprom Media, while Channel 5 is controlled by National Media Group.
http://www.indexoncensorship.org/2013/12/brief-history-russian-media/
And if anyone tries to sneak in with truth using internet .. well than Putin regime iron fist is also there:
http://globalvoicesonline.org/2014/07/05/russia-internet-censorship-laws...
That is why in Russia there is allways at power "dear leader" Putin.
16 Years KGB agent
1999 to 2000 - PM
2000 to 2008 - President
2008 to 2012 - PM
2012 to 2018 (2024) - president / czar
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Putin
The bottom line is, we know you post "SHIT" by the volume. SHORT AND SWEET.
You do realize that the Ukrainian army of 2013 had the same tanks as Russia, and then gave those tanks to Novorussia when much of the old Ukrainian army deserted/ran to russia/ joined novorussia?
Go look at the videos of boys and grandpas that the Nudelmans had to conscript in Kiev to still have a standing army.
You do realize that the Russian army doesn't sell all it's tanks and some of them are exclusivly only in Russian army and you won't see Ukranian army parade with those Russian tanks?
Except...for facts vs your petty imagination
shut up and listen.
Those are not T72B3.
They are not even all the same model/configuration.
Damn sure not late model nor smooth. Each has different sounds and different response to control.
Captured or turned over by Ukr changed sides, and/or patched up, added parts and protection whatever best can be found.
Even after wounded and repairs.
Repeat...those are not T72B3 Late Model fresh armor, and not Russian Military..
Recognized military experts say otherwise. So you are no expert - you are simply saying nOOO NOOOO just like this character: http://youtu.be/3yX_1gJ_51M
Joseph Dempsey, an IISS analyst, has studied video footage reportedly taken on 26 August in Sverdlovsk, Luhansk, in eastern Ukraine. The video shows a convoy of military vehicles.
Whilst date and location are unconfirmed, he says the operator of the convoy is apparent: flags associated with the separatist movement are clearly displayed and some vehicles feature bright green areas, a common feature of separatist armour.
The mixed convoy includes at least three T-72B1 Main Battle Tanks (MBTs) but it is the appearance of a lone, more modern T-72 variant (shown below) that is of particular significance.
Usual viedirsa drivel.
http://www.armyrecognition.com/images/stories/east_europe/ukraine/main_b...
Some Brit thinktank insignificant put up as evidence by British media of no credibility.
Yet he mentioned other variants only.
Nothing there.
Better find someone knows the Russian machine in real.
If it was ranks of T90s you might have a point. Until that happens, I pretty much accept that Russia is supplying arms and "advisers" to the eastern independent forces. This is completely normal. The west does exactly the same thing. What are you complaining about?
You seem to be under the impression that the west is a "democratic" wonderland. Don't be ridiculous, voting is just entertainment for the plebs.
+1000
The Book " Confessions of an Economic Hitman"
The Author John Perkins confirms the above as he was an Economic Hitman for 30 years for the US.
He did this to Panama, Columbia, Indonesia, Iran, Ecuador, Sudia Arabia...and confesses if the Leaders do not accept the bribe in comes what he calls the "Jackel" the C I A Hitmen.
A very interersting read!
da, when see column of fresh T90 then is likely Russians
until then is Ukraine nationals fight for home, family, normal life
i have been reading your comments in the last few months and it seems to me that you have a problem with the russians.you are trying to spread anti russian propaganda with pathetic articles.we here have our own opinion about what is happening over their and i dont need your false articles to prove to me what is right or what is wrong.go to cnn you might have some more people agreeing with you.
ps i might agree with you when i stop seeing artillery shells killing innocent people.porkyshenko totally fucked up this war.at the start of the war their were a lot of neutral people or on ukraine side but once the war started and the ukrainian soldiers started to kill innocent people with their indisciplined actions i now believe that donetsk and lugansk are now lost from ukraine.
Guy only appeared after the conglict started, he's a paid troll. There's really no doubt about it. The faggot spews twisted lies and thinks he can spread russophobia on here. Maybe he's just angry with ZH for talking real sense and can't stand it so he tries to troll.
Guy was from 2011 :) and no one needs to pay me for bringing truth.
https://www.google.lv/search?q=viedoklis_lv+site%3Azerohedge.com&client=...
http://www.zerohedge.com/users/viedoklislv
2012 actually.
You got your facts wrong, again. Your troll community is well organised, plans ahead.
Ha ha ha :D conflict didn't started 2012 so you failed.
I tried to find my first comments here - it was supporting ZH because I thought it was spreading truth. Unfortunatly it was not the case. I now understand how this site works:
I will repeat this post because in my opinion it’s important to open eyes those who have good intention in their heart but have been misled by elite / regimes of different sides. How I see things is I look at what government is doing – looking at its work, methods and results. And from there it’s basically two sides: those who work in good of common people and protect their individual rights & freedoms, and those who manipulate their people take their rights away and work for elite benefits. Now you look from that perspective and you are going around in so called “alternative media” as this (which actually is not alternative at all – but about that little later) than I’m sure you are aware about US oligarch regime crimes and that they are not working for the people. What you are lacking in information at some sites is about other elites / regimes / oligarchs and how they treat their people. So because of this lack of information you can be easily manipulated to think that there is only one evil elite that rules west and others can be looked at as opposition to this evil – so automatically they are the good guys VS evil west. Well it’s not so at all. If you go back to what I started and those criteria how I divide governments – than you will realize that for example Putin oligarch regime, China elite regime – is not working for their people and is not protecting their individual rights and freedoms. They use the same tactics, the same crimes, the same manipulation in order to gain their elite more power more wealth and hides it under different banners. I’ post links about Putin regime in the end – check them out.
This manipulation with your mind is possible using different kind of channels that you think is alternative media – when actually it’s Putin regime asset for brainwashing you. Also US oligarch regime has their alternative media to brainwash you. So it’s really hard to stay focus and not to get lost in this war over your mind. But those criteria I posted can help you.
What Putin regime assets as RT, Zerohedge (because obviously it is Putin regime asset as you will not be able to find any criticism towards from this site towards actions Putin regime do to their people by limiting their freedoms, by internet censorship and of course will stay in line with Putin regime lies that they are not invading Ukraine - when there is evidence
about Putin regime tanks in Ukraine that are not in any country army but only in Russian) does is they are mixing truth with lies. You know – you have to add some sugar for bitter poison. They are well aware about US oligarch crimes and they are well aware that MSM is hiding them from people in west and they are well aware that people in west is seeking the truth that exposes these crimes – so what they do is this – they expose US oligarch regime crimes for what you are so interested in and in this way they are taking your attention and confidence to this source so that you trust them and thank them for bringing truth. And what they do then is they add their Putin regime lies that you automatically accept as truth because they were saying truth about US oligarch regime crimes (not always though). So this is the way they mix truth with lies in order to make you think from their perspective. If they add more paid trolls than mostly this scheme will work and people will live under Putin regime brainwashing machine. So now you know. Now it’s a choice for you to think this trough and start looking at information more with critical thinking. Yes, world is not so simple as we think.
Here are some links to look at and think of if you are cheering for Putin regime:
http://globalvoicesonline.org/2014/07/05/russia-internet-censorship-laws-crackdown/
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/russias-putin-signs-law-extending-kremlins-grip-over-media/2014/10/15/6d9e8b2c-546b-11e4-809b-8cc0a295c773_story.html
http://www.rferl.org/content/russia-ad-ban-hurts-television/25449900.html
http://www.hrw.org/news/2013/04/24/russia-worst-human-rights-climate-post-soviet-era
http://www.forbes.com/sites/paulroderickgregory/2014/04/12/russian-tv-caught-red-handed-same-guy-same-demonstration-but-three-different-people-spy-bystander-heroic-surgeon/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkaVIIOE9ys
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/6a2b93aac55c40c9a1b0b0bcc11a07d9/russia-gives-approval-sanctions-compensation
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/russias-rosneft-asks-48-billion-state-wealth-fund-sanctions-bite-1471332
Most all Ukrainian nationals speak Russian.
big majority as main
@viedoklis_lv get real bro if russia had invaded Ukraine there whould be no Ukraine by now .Stop dreaming this shit up .
I always reference to facts. Of course those who cheer anything that opposes US oligarch regime - doesn't want to see facts that reveals Putin oligarch regime.
@viedoklis_lv"I always reference to facts" LMFAO ,are you for real your joking right ?
The fact is Latvia is so poor they now try to promote sex tourism but the women look so ugly they are good only for local consumption.
Well, just how low can ruskie troll go :)
Anyway, I see you are jealous that we have most beautiful women on world :)
http://randomstory.org/top-10-countries-with-most-beautiful-women/
You're from Latvia? LOL
Well that explains your unfounded russophobia.
You shouldn't even be a country...and won't
Latvian Looser Lad,
Russian armour in Donbas is less than nothing, if the recently released Western satellite image of a Ukrainian jet firing a missile is genuine.
I don't suppose Riga's famous image montebanks with their $29.95 jewelers loupes have had an opportunity to see the original photos. So Riga is prolly saying whatever Rasmussen tells them to say.
The image of a Ukrainian jet firing missile at passenger looking-like aeroplane is seeming genuine to me.
But Latvian lazy boy, if it took all this time (4 months) for this image to be released, just in time to be seen by all the leaders gathered at the G20 meeting in Brisbane where it can be discussed face to face, can you imagine what other images Putin has up his sleeve to release at the right time?
For example, the missile hitting the plane ? Oy veh.
So somebody go tell Aunt Obama, not only is the old grey goose dead, but that "Great Birnam Wood to high Brisbane Hill has come and is about to sit on his mulatto face.
Ah, what rapture it will be to see Porky Poroshenko hanging by his enlarged testicles upside down on meathooks from the roof of a gas station in Milan Kiev.
It's a shame that plane had it's sign on different part of the plane actually, or that whole picture used in it was taken in 2012 - or just simply that one cloud is always there. You have to examine this material how that Putin lie propoganda material was debunked:
http://youtu.be/OP-ILBNwO6A
But that is what Putin regime do - make more lie propoganda materials:
Russian TV Propagandists Caught Red-Handed: Same Guy, Three Different People (Spy, Bystander, Heroic Surgeon)http://www.forbes.com/sites/paulroderickgregory/2014/04/12/russian-tv-ca...
Forbes is terrible.
You talk against system, then jump straight to their cheap always against Russia talkings.
RT & Zerohedge is the best - right? :D
You would not find any more reliable source than those and also all those Putin regime state controlled media - they also are super cool - right? :D
I check facts not channels.
RT is elegant
and your fantasy that ZH controlled by Kremlin shows your mental state
>>>>and your fantasy that ZH controlled by Kremlin shows your mental state
The "Kremlin-controlled blogger" meme is certainly out there.
My take is that whenever a western "mainstream" media outlet publishes an article critical of Russia's policies re Ukraine, and allows open commentary, there are a hell of a lot of thoughtful, well-written pro-Russia responses posted. So, either Russia has numerous well-funded, well-informed Anglophone stooges on its payroll, or there are a hell of a lot of Western citizens who think that the anti-Russia storyline is a pile of shit. Personally, I think the pile-of-shit theory is correct.
+1
That is a good observation.
Russia has been put thru the wringer.
Knows who was responsible.
Has choose and taken the higher ground.
Putin Administration has earned it.
Read Chris Hutchins book "Putin" for understand what shaped...
His Mother lived seige and young brother died there.
You won't learn that from shit pile.
Latvian of worthless links
The original film or computer images will prove whether these images are genuine or not.
PUTIN IS INTELLIGENT ENOUGH NOT TO USE PHONY CRAP LIKE THE WEST DOES.
You were foolish enough to believe Obama when he said he couldn't release evidence of Syrian sarin attack because It was secret and classified.
Please don't be a moron, Latvian lead head, everyone here wants to be your friend and not give you more down votes than anybody else.
Those are not T72B3.
They are not even the same model/configuration.
Look cobbled together with various pieces and parts from captured, "Donbass rigged"
salvaged, whatever can get hands on...
No two are same. No two sound the same, nor respond to control exactly same.
They are worn, aged equipment, not late model.
Those are not Russian units.
They look typical local guys with various gear, arms and colors.
There is no "Russian Invasion"http://russia-insider.com/en/politics_ukraine/2014/11/14/01-18-00pm/how_...
Get real!
Experts at the International Institute for Strategic Studies (IISS) say they have identified a Russian tank among a separatist column in eastern Ukraine, which they claim "strongly supports" concerns Russia is supplying arms to seperatists.
Joseph Dempsey, an IISS analyst, studied video footage taken in Sverdlovsk, Luhansk, reportedly showing a convoy of military vehicles with flags associated with the separatist movement visible on them in August.
Mr Dempsey told the BBC the convoy includes at least three T-72B1 Main Battle Tanks (MBTs) and more modern T-72 variant.
He said the T-72 variant, which is distinguished by the Kontakt-5 Explosive Reactive Armour (ERA) arrangement, is operated by the Russian army – but is not known to have been “exported or operated” outside of Russia.
The IISS says its alleged presence in Ukraine “strongly supports” claims Russia is supplying arms to separatist forces, an accusation Moscow has strongly denied.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/iiss-experts-say-russian-...
Wow, three supposed Russian tanks so Putin must invading, LOL.
If Russia really invaded the Ukraine, there would be two battles, Kiev in the morning and Lvov in the afternoon. 3 tactical nukes would be enough for the Ukie army to turn tail and run like dogs. Moreover, NATO will do nothing because no europeans and americans are prepared to die for a bunch of stinking ukie fascists.
For Russia, the Ukraine is a dumping ground for 30 year old soviet tanks and trucks, nothing more
Latina: I like the cut of your jib (your statement above, but your avatar has always sidetracked me).
Actually I always imgagined you're avatar getting together with LL's /s ............ oh god i just threw up in my mouth....
.........now LL's present AV with his previous.........
I have had the pleasure of 2 or more latinas entertaining me by entertaining themselves. They just love to get it on, and they particularly love american men, especially ben franklins, LOL>
Independent and BBC have lost all credibility.
I never heard of IISS..or this Dempsey..that Brit rags found for party line...
.I am confident he is not any neutral opinion.
Note he did not claim T72 B3 but generalized. Konkat5 is not exclusive to T72 B3. Trust me.
No revelation there.
Better try be more honest and post against the Kyiv aggressors death and depradations
since you claim to be about truth and honest
.
"Kontakt-5 armour is employed by Russia, Ukraine and Serbia (on M-84AS MBT), among others."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kontakt-5
I was near positive of that.
I planned to ask Officer friend to be sure before posting such.
Also, be wary WIKI for exactness
IISS is the UK's equivalent of PNAC. It exists so that the neoconservatives in the UK can point at some "independent" analysts report and say "we have to go to war".
I never heard of them until now.
Brits lost all credibility with Litvinenko fabrications.
Now they implicated, don't want talk about that anymore
+ 100
The west is livid that Putin has added additional territory without an invasion whereas the US has invaded plenty of places and added only enemies.
This Mexican stand off will only add to the instability of Europe and the further erosion of the US dollar's position and will enhance non US centric relationships.
I wonder how the US might feel about Cuba allowing Russian missiles to be installed on its territory.
"without an invasion" he simply has taken it's army, gave order to take off recognistion signatures, invade Ukraine while Ukraine was politicaly unstable and made illegal "referendum" which was by no definition a referendum and was onlu recognized by Russia which was organizing it in order to annex that teritory. How blind you have to be not to see that?
The west is using Ukraine as a condom to try and fuck Russia. Full stop. The only question is whether the Kiev government realizes this.
LOL.
Yeah, NATO is royally pissed that they lost the most valuable parts of the Ukraine to Russia, and are now left with the shit.
No NATO naval base in Sevastopol to threaten Russia, or american companies to suck out the tens of billions in offshore black sea oil and gas, or the Crimean penninsula to host pipelines from Turkey connecting into Ukie pipelines and thereby screwing Russia.
This is what happens when you match a mulatto, illegal gay kenyan against a PHD KGB Judoka, Master chess player, LOL.
Canadian PM shittalking...kinda like a snarling poodle bouncing off the storm door...LOL
I thought that all the Harper sycophants just followed him on Twitter. Seems there are a few that read ZeroHedge judging by some of the down arrows. That really surprises me. They only wish to hear/read support for the dogma they are comfortable with.
I like Putin because he doesn't give a f*ck about West & international law. He makes everyone look like a fool with their order and everything. Of course everyone knows that Putin is supporting DNR & LNR freedom fighters and that actualy they are mostly from Russia and mostly Russian soldiers. But who can do anything about that? Ukranians? NATO? US? Australia? Ha! Putin is making Russia bigger by taking away what belongs to Russians and Ukraine belongs to Russia! Russia will restore USSR borders and occupy back all teritory! Glory to Putin rule! Glory to Russian red army! Only iron fist can rule upon russians and other nations! Putin is freedom because he is against NWO and for control of nations so that gays doesn't rule us!
Putin and Russia are shaking in their boots now that the realize Harper is pissed off at them. Stop laughing, they really are frightened.
Typical ruskie commie and their supporters here in this Putin regime lies propoganda asset they call "alternative media". Only alternative here is that doesn't reflect reality regarding Russia.
Soon Putin will invade your Latvia and liberate you with his tanks just like in Ukraine! Noone will help you!
Sockpuppetry in action:
Funny as Ray Bolger dancing on the hood of a car in a traffic jam. Putin doesn't want Latvia. Nobody does.
Stooge: Didn't akak move to Latvia and become King? That's just the rumor I heard.
Russian media could very well by lying their asses off. I don't know for sure because, even though I can get by reading and basic converstational Russian, I don't particularly read it.
What I do know, however, is how our "Western" media lies incessantly for corporate power. That I do know. Lest we forget the MSM parroted the "facts" that Saddam had mobile biological weapons labs and that the North Vietnamese attacked the US Navy in the Gulf of Tonkin... and so on.
I ***KNOW*** the Western MSM is lying. It's what they do. Constantly.
Yes! Western oligarch regime MSM is lying! And that is used by Putin oligarch regime.
I have figured this out how this works:
I will repeat this post because in my opinion it’s important to open eyes those who have good intention in their heart but have been misled by elite / regimes of different sides. How I see things is I look at what government is doing – looking at its work, methods and results. And from there it’s basically two sides: those who work in good of common people and protect their individual rights & freedoms, and those who manipulate their people take their rights away and work for elite benefits. Now you look from that perspective and you are going around in so called “alternative media” as this (which actually is not alternative at all – but about that little later) than I’m sure you are aware about US oligarch regime crimes and that they are not working for the people. What you are lacking in information at some sites is about other elites / regimes / oligarchs and how they treat their people. So because of this lack of information you can be easily manipulated to think that there is only one evil elite that rules west and others can be looked at as opposition to this evil – so automatically they are the good guys VS evil west. Well it’s not so at all. If you go back to what I started and those criteria how I divide governments – than you will realize that for example Putin oligarch regime, China elite regime – is not working for their people and is not protecting their individual rights and freedoms. They use the same tactics, the same crimes, the same manipulation in order to gain their elite more power more wealth and hides it under different banners. I’ post links about Putin regime in the end – check them out.
This manipulation with your mind is possible using different kind of channels that you think is alternative media – when actually it’s Putin regime asset for brainwashing you. Also US oligarch regime has their alternative media to brainwash you. So it’s really hard to stay focus and not to get lost in this war over your mind. But those criteria I posted can help you.
What Putin regime assets as RT, Zerohedge (because obviously it is Putin regime asset as you will not be able to find any criticism towards from this site towards actions Putin regime do to their people by limiting their freedoms, by internet censorship and of course will stay in line with Putin regime lies that they are not invading Ukraine - when there is evidence
about Putin regime tanks in Ukraine that are not in any country army but only in Russian) does is they are mixing truth with lies. You know – you have to add some sugar for bitter poison. They are well aware about US oligarch crimes and they are well aware that MSM is hiding them from people in west and they are well aware that people in west is seeking the truth that exposes these crimes – so what they do is this – they expose US oligarch regime crimes for what you are so interested in and in this way they are taking your attention and confidence to this source so that you trust them and thank them for bringing truth. And what they do then is they add their Putin regime lies that you automatically accept as truth because they were saying truth about US oligarch regime crimes (not always though). So this is the way they mix truth with lies in order to make you think from their perspective. If they add more paid trolls than mostly this scheme will work and people will live under Putin regime brainwashing machine. So now you know. Now it’s a choice for you to think this trough and start looking at information more with critical thinking. Yes, world is not so simple as we think.
Here are some links to look at and think of if you are cheering for Putin regime:
http://globalvoicesonline.org/2014/07/05/russia-internet-censorship-laws-crackdown/
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/russias-putin-signs-law-extending-kremlins-grip-over-media/2014/10/15/6d9e8b2c-546b-11e4-809b-8cc0a295c773_story.html
http://www.rferl.org/content/russia-ad-ban-hurts-television/25449900.html
http://www.hrw.org/news/2013/04/24/russia-worst-human-rights-climate-post-soviet-era
http://www.forbes.com/sites/paulroderickgregory/2014/04/12/russian-tv-caught-red-handed-same-guy-same-demonstration-but-three-different-people-spy-bystander-heroic-surgeon/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkaVIIOE9ys
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/6a2b93aac55c40c9a1b0b0bcc11a07d9/russia-gives-approval-sanctions-compensation
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/russias-rosneft-asks-48-billion-state-wealth-fund-sanctions-bite-1471332
You tell Western is lying, then quote their sources as evidence for argument against Putin Administation/Russia
Its Putins signed laws - do you think they dont exist? Check facts firdt and than troll later.
troll
Vedoklis is drinking too much bad vodka this evening, produced from car radiators made of lead.
utin not only "gives a fuck", but he's scared shitless.
Otherwise, he would have gone into Ukraine balls deep, took Crimea, seized a land route, and left everything too fucked up to work right for 20 years.
He didn't.
He couldn't.
Now he knows, without any doubt, that Russia's future lies with the west.... and that east Russia's lies with China.
Hey, China, we'll build you a pipeline... until you decide to just take it all. But please, wait a few years until they put my hanged, burned, astroglide-preserved body on display where Lenin was.
He's bleeding the IMF.
Death by a thousand cuts.
You mean ZBIG's following wet dream:
Redrawing the Map of the Russian Federation: Partitioning Russia
http://bit.do/grandchessboard
Looking suspiciously like a Latvian sock puppet, forputin said:
Huh, no, that describes the criminal gang in Vichy DC. They hate Putin because he insists international law be applied without a double standard.
OK, viedokazu_draazejs, your sock puppet is rather obvious by now.
You might be a little too late there, viedorklis, considering the recent announcement by the Latvian foreign minister...
>>>Putin is supporting DNR & LNR freedom fighters and that actualy they are mostly from Russia and mostly Russian soldiers.
Everyone knows that Russia has been supporting the DNR and LNR, and that there are Russian nationals in East Ukraine. HOWEVER, as far as I can tell, the large majority (i.e. 90%+) of the East Ukraine fighters are local guys... and girls.
It would be interesting to know just how many non-Russian foreign fighters are on both sides, as there are continuing reports of Polish and American mercs serving Kiev, and a wide variety of anti-fascist fighters from all over Europe, and beyond, in the the East.
There are taxpayer supported agents and trainers,but others main are Polish mercs. some brits, misc volunteer
Latvian female snipers (one confirmed KIA) Swede snipers, all paid. Some Tatar and Chechen misc and other, even came
from Syria. Similar mix to mercs hired by Georgia 08 08 08.
Afghans, but larger number fight on Seperatist side. (See Afghan Freedom Fighter in Donbass YouTube)
(Moderate Afghans supported Soviets, who gave free education both male and female)
Harper's just another ZWO flunky.
Putin's response: "Go fuck yourself."
Looks like Putin in G20 was called out for explanation on red carpet then let alone to drink his vodka - no company near him:
http://youtu.be/L1SAQ_q4Ivg
I guess he is missing his friend http://www.themoscowtimes.com/business/article/russia-and-north-korea-di...
@viedoklis_lv here's 2.8 billion friends that would disagree with you .
BRICS G5 http://youtu.be/XOHfGflKBK0