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The Real Reason Why Germany Halted Its Gold Repatriation From The NY Fed
Following the stunning announcement in January 2013 that the Bundesbank would repatriate 674 tons of gold from the NY Fed and the French Central Bank, a year later the Bundesbank followed up with a just as stunning revelation that of the 84 tons the bank was supposed to bring back home, it had managed to obtain just a paltry 37 tons, with only 5 tons originating from the NY Fed.
The reason given for this disappointing amount was as follows:
The Bundesbank explained [the low amount of US gold] by saying that the transports from Paris are simpler and therefore were able to start quickly." Additionally, the Bundesbank had the "support" of the BIS "which has organized more gold shifts already for other central banks and has appropriate experience - only after months of preparation and safety could transports start with truck and plane." That would be the same BIS that in 2011 lent out a record 632 tons of gold...
Going back to the main explanation, we wonder: how exactly is a gold transport "simpler" because it originates in Paris and not in New York? Or does the NY Fed gold travel by car along the bottom of the Atlantic, and is French gold transported by a Vespa scooter out of the country?
Supposedly, there was another reason: "The bullion stored in Paris already has the elongated shape with beveled edges of the "London Good Delivery" standard. The bars in the basement of the Fed on the other hand have a previously common form. They will need to be remelted [to LGD standard]. And the capacity of smelters are just limited."
Or, simply said, generic pretexts for a failure to follow through with the Bundesbank's original intention of redomiciling physical gold, especially after Zero Hedge posted in November 2012 proof of collusion between the 1968 Bank of England and the Fed seeking to defraud Deutsche Bank: 'Bank Of England To The Fed: "No Indication Should, Of Course, Be Given To The Bundesbank..."
The charade ended with a thud in June of this year, when instead of continuing the farce, Germany simply gave up, providing an even more laughable reason why it can no longer even pretend to collect its physical gold located at New York's 9 Liberty Street.
Germany has decided its gold is safe in American hands. “The Americans are taking good care of our gold,” Norbert Barthle, the budget spokesman for Merkel’s Christian Democratic bloc in parliament, said in an interview. “Objectively, there’s absolutely no reason for mistrust.”
And that was it: not a single word more from Germany on the topic of its failed gold repatriation initiative. Until this week, when Deutsche Bank - the bank which is Germany's equivalent to America' Goldman Sachs in terms of policy decision-making - once again revealed just what the true reason behind the failure of Germany's attempt to bring its gold back. From Robin Winkler's special report:
... the gold community paid great attention to the decision of the German Bundesbank to “bring German gold home”. At the beginning of 2013, the Bundesbank announced it would repatriate 300 tonnes of gold stored in the US by 2020. It is well behind schedule, citing logistical difficulties. Yet diplomatic difficulties are more likely to be the chief cause of the delay, especially seeing as the Bundesbank has proven its capacity to organise large-scale gold transports. In the early 2000s, the Bundesbank incrementally repatriated 930 tonnes of German gold held by the Bank of England.
Because if anyone knows what really happened behind the scenes in Germany, and inside closed doors at the Bundesbank, it is Deutsche Bank.
And there you have it: it wasn't transportation, or "good delivery standards" concerns, or anything remotely related to Germany "decididng its gold is safe in American hands", but just the opposite: Germany was pressured to keep its gold in the US after a "diplomatic" line of communication was opened, most likely the result of the Fed making it all too clear clear to the Bundesbank not only who runs the show, but what the assured failure to repatriate Germany's gold would mean for "price stability."
Which has, for now at least, ended Germany's gold repatriation demands.
Now the question is, just how will the US pressure the Swiss "diplomatically" to make sure its own gold repatriation referendum does not succeed. Because if Germany failed miserably to obtain 674 tons of gold in 2013, it is assured that Switzerland will find absolutely nothing in its quest to obtain more than double, or 1,500 tons, of gold as a successful November 30 referendum outcome would require.
Then again, considering it was Obama's action that destroyed the Swiss banking sector after the US crushed the centuries-long tradition of "Swiss banking anonymity", this could be just the right action with which "neutral" Switzerland could finally take its revenge on the regime that cost it what was for centuries the primary source of capital inflow into the small and so very prosperous (until then) central-European nation.
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Yanks/NSA must have overheard some really juicy stuff on Angela's phone to bring diplomatic pressure to bear.
>> The fucking Canadians stole it?
>> It's Not THERE?
Fed doesn't have it - and if Germany keeps pushing the subject, it will blow up the system, and the blame will fall squarly on the Fed.
Seems to me that both parties need to shift blame to someone else -- perhaps Beppe Grillo can oblige?
The Swiss are acting very "terroristy" and they had better be careful or the US will be invading Switzerland soon. I hope our 10th Mountain Division is up for some ski/shooting. In fact, let's send in Paul Wolfowitz on some X cpountry skis with a 70 pound pack on, get things started right.
What a farce... The Germans and Swiss are most likely planning their exit from western hegemony over this theft and who could blame them...
That would be acting very "anti semetic" of them. Clearly it would be that they had had enough of Zionist Banking and god forbid, Brad Pitt movies....
Nooooooooooooo............not the Brad Pitt movies.
Oh boo hoo, where's my crying towel.
No mention of Ukraine's gold bullion which was taken by Bundesbank and chalked up as a repatriation from America.
Isn't it funny that the new ISIS dinars are made only from gold and silver. The caliphate is the only entity the world that uses real money instead of fiat. For that alone, they must be destroyed!
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-11-11/isis-going-back-gold-standard
Well, the good news for the Nazis is that the pussy Swiss will not be allowed to be counted properly to cement their swiss frankfurter to real value.
And.. the west still dominates the Kiev right butt fisted sector.
What did Kennedy call the Berliners?
..it has something to do with a confection.
THE GERMAN TEXAS TWO-STEP??
Yeah, the Germans may say they want to keep their gold at the NY FED in public, but someone is receiving gold from the FED this year. According to the Board of Governors at the Federal Reserve, 77 METRIC TONS OF GOLD have left the FED this year (Q1-Q3).
So, who's receiving this gold if it isn't the Germans?
This may also be of interest:
The Reverse Of Central Bank Gold Flows Spells The Death Of The Dollar
THE GOLD IS GONE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Prove It Otherwise...
It Is Probably ReHypothicated 100, 300, maybe 1000 Times...?
So HOW Do You Buy It Back ???
Impossible. They Have To Find VIRGIN GOLD In The 1000's Of Tonnes...
UNT GOOD Fecking LUCK...
Just don't know who to believe anymore
(cynicism ... deep unabiding critical cynicism)
Note to self: Author personal letter to Tom Freidman at NYT for his exceptional insights upon the matter
(cynicism2)
Double note to self: Ask Tom to ask the Krugster what gold really is and means. We'll get to the fucking bottom of this real quick, I say. Paul! Paul? Where are you Paul?
(cynicism3)
in this era of time those I beleivez is the russian 55t on q3 2014.
for sure.
seeing amount of shitstorm coming over russia, no need to check the numbers
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Germany didn't halt its gold repatriation from the NY Fed. If you don't believe me give Susanne Kreutzer from BuBa a call: +49-69-9566-4231
(source: http://www.bundesbank.de/Navigation/DE/Presse/Pressekontakt/pressekontak... )
And just in case the SNB is going to buy around 1500 tons of gold during the next 5 years... that would be 300 tons a year or 25 tons a month. That doesn't have to move the gold price significantly.
However... the world is drowing in debt.
The Swiss are currently brainwashed daily by the mainstream media to vote against gold repatriation. As general economic knowledge in Switzerland is about as bad as elsewhere, I bet media manipulation will prevail. Come on little sheep, follow the butcher.
Listen Manthong.
We all know one thing is for sure. When they say it's quicker from "FRANCE". It means it's quicker from Israel.
Oh, the US has piles of bullion in Syria. Yea right, it's all in Israel "FOLKS".
kosher or halal.. you decide :-D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBzJGckMYO4
..but y’know.. I just don’t think that the over-confident FOLKS in the promised land covet the precious as much as the Indians, Chinese and Russians….. the chosen ones think that all power rests in a the hands of the money changers and banks.
Gee.. India, China, Russia.. half the land mass and population of the f’n planet.. I believe that is where you will find most things that shine.
I found it (un)interesting that they are already saying it won't work because people would hoard the coins and that they would be easy to counterfit. Unbeleivable!
I found it (un)interesting that they are already saying it won't work because people would hoard the coins and that they would be easy to counterfit. Unbeleivable!
head over to Jim Willie's golden jackass website. Diff take.....
Germany went tit-fo-tat with USA after NATO military planners laid out the military campaign to destablize Ukraine. Germany has had enough war on its turf and asked for its gold in return. Germany knows that commerce and biz with Russia is MOST important!
I think we'll need a blubbing towel...
+1 for having had enough of Brad Pitt movies.
And add Angelina, George Clooney and Julia Roberts to that list.
Movies stopped being any good after Lord of the Rings.
Are you sure Gandalf? Or are you playing tricks on us?
$12 eternal war state-propandaga flick tricks? That be the dark lord's doing
Morgoth -> Sauron -> Central Banks
And now we don't even know what the ring looks like, or where Mount Doom is. No eagle can help us now.
LOR was 2001..
V for Vendetta was 2005
IMHO, that was Peak Cinema..
The comic for V was much earlier, and IMHO much much better than the movie. The writer is excellent, and is often cited as one of the driving forces behind making comic books more than just things for kids. You should give it a shot.
If i'm not mistaken, V: For Vandetta and The Watchmen were two of the first mainstream comics that introduced the term of graphic novel. I wouldnt consider either of them comic books, most notably is the fact that they have an ending, comics are always open ended or re imagined in some way.
I got out of reading pulp before that, but I would not want to diminish it when the concepts are so relevant.
..and I am dragging out the DVD right now.. I need a little shot of righteousness. :-)
oopps, cool.. just found it as an .iso on the basement box.
Watch Bogart's Casablanca -
Real plot, real acting, great dialog, marvelous actors.
Peak Cinema ? Perhaps in the '40s.
One has to wade through more and more dirt for that one diamond.
Or any of the (many) film noir classics from the same period. There's one from the 40's starring Robert Mitchum and Kirk Douglas, buggered if I can remember its name, maybe the best film I ever saw.
Edit: "Out of the Past".
Actually the Dwarfs were supposed to be Jews, hence their predeliction of jewels and artifacts, and their cave-dwelling. I would say if you are looking for a truly revolutionary fantastic tale, read Baum's original Oz series, which does in delightfully simple short stories (that you can read to children, in fact) what it took Rand hundreds of pages of ponderously dense narrative replete with fathomless monologues to want to declare...that the wise lay low until the time is ripe for revolution, then go all in.
methinks Morlocks are a more suitable analogy.
Having put book reading on the backburner over the last few years, I will definitely take your suggestion on the Oz series friend.
And for you, I have to share a masterpiece by Blind Guardian. Nightfall in Middle Earth is an aural telling of The Silmarillion. The lyrics are brilliant - only ever referencing character names when absolutely relevant to context. Gotta love a good interpretation.
Nevermind the fabulous guitar work and vocal harmonies. That band really did something incredible on the album. Too bad they went full Queen later with night at the opera... Was good but they really out did themselves with nightfall in middle earth.
great comment all the way round, PAF....you know, i think you may be right about the dwarfs...i knew tolkien was representing certain peoples in all the various denizens of middle earth; and all along i figured they were like the portregese or something..but i reckon you're right after thinking it through.
i watched sector 9 with the boys last night...lots of representing in that story, too.
oh, and, no more laying low...vive la revolution!
janus
The fuck is that about? Thye completely DESTROYED the Lord of the Ring movies. For fucks sake, you cant just change the ending of an epic fucking novel! Not to mention completely changing the story line of Merry and Pippen! You can be serious!? Did you forget the /s or have you just never read the books?
Read them all, starting with the Silmarillion. You try condensing a Tolkien book into a movie; It's the best you're gonna get - take it or leave it kind of deal. I'd watch a 100-hour reproduction of the novels exactly as they are. Hell, the Silmarillion's creation tale would be a lengthy flick in itself.
Blah blah blah. That is no excuse to change the entire last half of a novel! I mean seriously....they left The Shire completly untouched! Totally taking away the idea tht even if they had abandoned their quest, that they would have had nothing to go home to. Then there is the tree Ents and the Ent Wash debacle! They drank the Ent Wash but never grew to the size of men? Fuck that! It was a massive disappointment for me. The Shire was never freed from the Orcs and thus the entire scene and story beind the heroism of Merry and Pippen were lost! Dumb fuck Peter Jackson, for gods sake all he had to do was NOT FUCK UP THE ENDING!
I know your disappointment and cannot in the least bit disagree with you. However, the end result, as it always materializes, is "take it or leave it". I'll take it, alright. They fucked it up, but it's better than nothing at all, and a continuous horseshit deployment of Afghanistan and Iraq war 'hero' stories, or a staging of the killing of the nine-elevs bad guy.
Ever read Michael Crichton books? Ever seen the movies? Exactly. (I'll still take those crappy movies, despite the fuckery)
Sigh...I know...I was just so disappointed in the ending. It was the first movie where I booed the screen after it was over. My pops is a Crichton fan and he says the same thing. He sticks to the books. Im just not a huge movie/teebee watcher, so I just expected the ending to be correct. First World Problems, ya' know?
the spectacle of LOR on screen was immense.. but when I read it all as a kid it did just a good as a job for a book reader.
I kind of wonder at what point do we deprive the imagination and supplant it with imagery that overcomes initiation, intuition and phenomenology..... heh heh.. go research that concept..
I'd like to see quality animation applied the the 13 x 1 hour episodes of the radio play of the Lord of the Rings done by the BBC. That would be both accurate to the books and epic in scope as well as satisfying to hardened fans of LOTR.
I sort of grew up in Middle Earth, and of course I noticed that they took certain liberties with the novels. The Tom Bombadil episode was completely omitted as well as the scourging of the Shire, and they increased the role of Arwyn, probably to give the actress a more important role, but things like that are only to be expected when turning a great and very long work of fiction into film. I thought they did a more than creditable job and am grateful that I lived to see it. I hadn't expected anything so grand in scope. The earlier attempts were cartoons, you know.
At least they left Beorn in The Hobbit...and showed some love to Radagast...I guess if Tom Bombadil had been around at the Battle of Five Armies, tearing Orcs to shreds, he would have gotten attention from the attention-addled film-makers.
Fight Club meet Book Club.
: -D
You gotta’ love it.
I’m going back to my C.S. Lewis.
Unfortunately the ommission of Bombadil's character in the original trilogy also meant that the viewer of the film never sees the completion of dream-reality bridge. Just that one detail is ever so important, like the many others purists will gripe over. Alas, "take it or leave it".
I saw the first 'Hobbit' movie - appreciated some love to Radagast as well. Haven't seen the second. With this trilogy, I think I might choose the "leave it" option after seeing all three in time.
Tom was hiding a dark secret:
http://flyingmoose.org/tolksarc/theories/bombadil.htm
I loved the movies, and that is having read every book dozens of times. There were differences to be sure, but if they made THAT movie it would have been a lot more films. At one a year I'd bet we'd probably STILL be in Lothlorian. The only two parts that drove me nuts was that Aragorn was portrayed as a crying wuss, and the elves showed up at helms deep for no reason whatsoever.
Yeah, the second Hobbit movie went completely unhinged regarding the barrel ride out of Mirkwood and the dragon in the mountain fight (that never happened in the book) was way out there. It was shear CGI eye candy to stretch the movie out.
wes anderson movies are still innocent, funny, and propaganda free.
Thanks to poor Peter Jackson, we now understand that George Lucas Syndome can strike the talented.
12 monkeys
WWZ
Inglourious Basterds
Nuff said.
Always talking about Zionist when you know full well there are plenty of complicit religions / races /sexes / orientations involved. It makes you look like a cracked pot.
Effie,
I would suggest you watch this. Religion has nothing to do with it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNIcAcrvi2M
Crazy David Icke explains the whole thing, with no racism, no anti-semiticism.
Brilliant video! All of that is true. And makes a pile of shit out of the complaints of Sir Effie.
Spoken as a true Aryan female.
That's not a compliment, by the way.
we're true blood.
Self Loathing cunt, that's you...
+1
Bullshit. Without Zionism there is no Judaism. And by Zionism I mean living in Israel, exclusively, irrespective of your political orientation. You see, you can't be a Zionist and live in 'murika, Russia or China. Only in the land formerly known as Canaan. And ftw ask any Williamsburg dwelling 'antizionist' hasidic Jew if he doesn't say three times a day:
"And to Jerusalem your city may you return....Blessed are you, builder of Jerusalem." "May our eyes behold your return to Zion...Blessed are you, who restores his presence to Zion."
i dunno, lordeffington...the echos of versailles ring with a certain resonance in this whole charade. cracked pot? or cracked liberty bell?
germans have been paying through the nose for being born as such since before bismark...funny thing about germans -- as intrinsically evil as they've been portrayed (and if cinema and our media are to be our guides, then germans are wickedness personified), they have this peculiar feature to their character: they don't appreciate lies and theft. i know, it's a flaw unique to the deutch (must have something to do with their inalterable wickedness), and they contiune to suffer for it. but, well, the world is changing fast...das boot on herr's neck may someday annoy the german. wicked, wicked germans! how dare they speak out against das boot!
and, well, again, i dunno, there seems to be a high concentration of 'certain' last names clustered in banking; and all the moreso in the central sector thereof. probably just a coincidence. i mean, being a 'cracked pot' and all, it's difficult for me to put things together cogently. there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever to suggest that 'certain' people fear and detest and envy the german; and will contine to for all of time.
as to time and its passing, it's over time become clear to me that 'certain' people do indeed envy the german profoundly...and that perhaps it's time 'certain' people forge their own, fully-integrated society, containing within in it everything from bricklayers all the way down to bankers and other such bottom-feeding scum. you know, a 'real' people; not just some co-ordinated 'tribe' scattered abroad to profitably siphon-off the wealth and efforts and property of other 'real' peoples and nations. a people that both sows and reaps; callosed hands & stiff necks; a noble and proud peoples. sure, any tick will grow fat and engorged; but you'd never call it noble.
and i suppose that's why these 'certain' people born & raised in a 'certain' experimental nation are the most well-adjusted and self-assured among any of those 'certain' people i've ever met. you see, they're not raised and conditioned on this notion of paranoia; they aren't taught to see the world as 'us' and 'them'; they have their own nation and communities and customs and aren't therefore impelled by this paranoid envy to corrupt and prey on their neighbors (we 'others').
maybe it's time to cement things for good; maybe it's time 'certain' people no longer fracture their host nations into segregated splinters of religion, race, sex and what-have-you and make their own...it's a dream called the 'virtuous society'; i used to find it an appaling affront to these self-same people, but now i think i see the merits in it.
so, moshe, follow that flag you've pasted beneath your name...follow it 'home' and teach your children to love thy neighbor instead of hatred and fear and envy.
janus
as i understand it, the jews were pushed into banking through european laws prohibiting chrisitians from lending money, and also prohibiting jews from land ownership.
so, you can thank the christians for the fact that jews are historically in finance.
also, what you say about germans is questionable. they are not any more evil than anyone else. and they do tolerate lies and theft just like anyone else, as events have revealed.
virtue is not a property of any nation or religion, and while it tends to occur in greater abundance in some areas than others, this shifts over time, just like empires rise and fall.
stacking,
hold on a minute whilst i wipe away the tears for the poor & gullible hebrews...whew! that didn't take long, not long at all. it may shock you to discover that these people have a reputation for money-changing that extends all the way back to babylon (and before that). sure, i'll confess that the aristocratic 'christian' leadership from among the many nations of europe utilized the jew to do their dirty work -- but the jew sure didn't need much convincing. and, well, they've certainly let the momentum of their enterprise carry them happily along.
with respect to the germans, i thought the sarcasm was evident. no, the germans aren't evil...some of the sweetest natured people on planet earth, in fact. and here's the thing about tolerating lies and theft; people will do it under only two circumstances: 1) when they're unaware of the perfidy. 2) as long as they 'have' to. but once they 'know', a seething pressure starts to build; and then comes retribution. it's part of the human condition.
i agree with you on the fugative aspect of virtue, and that's sorta where janus comes it viz. the hebrew.
for the entirety of my life, everything i am and understand to be right & proper has been assaulted by 'certain' forces in media. it seems 'certain' people think they know what's best for me, and are furthermore obsessed with recasting my person according to their appreciation for my best interests. and i'll always accept correction when it's warrented; but it's of late occurred to janus that this obsession with recasting has to do with the fundamental and profound insecurity that has long infected the souls of 'certain' peoples; inasmuch as they seem to believe that once they've reconfigured society according to their tastes, they will at long last come to accept themselves and all those insecurities will melt into a melange of 'tolerance' or 'internationalism' or 'do-goodery' -- so long as 'certain' among us sit at the tippy-top.
anyway, in order that i may show some gratitude for all their do-goodery and by it demonstrate the reciprocity incumbent of me, i proclaim to now know what's best for them. that's right, i've taken the hebrew's burden upon my broad shoulders and will henceforth instruct them as to their shortcomings, and conduct them in the ways of righteousness...for their own good. and, what is more, i've learned so very much in observing the hebrew; and so they should feel very comfortable and respond accordingly when their methods are used upon them...again, for their own good.
look, it's clear that they know what's best for us...i mean to say, we've gone from a Christian society to one in which you can find the fullness of identity in sodomy rather than faith. it's crazy, really. you can be a lot of things in this world and be proud of it; but white-Christian-middle-class ain't among em.
you have no idea the level of collusion that exists within that people (or maybe you do?); and all such efforts have a purpose. do you really believe that those pulling the strings want western societies to be strong and solid and virtuous? and if so, please identify ANY hebrew (not in the Bible) who advocated for such.
and so, hebrews, either janus knows what's best for he and his or you do; and if you do, then i'll do the same for you.
as always, you're welcome.
xoxo,
janus
while i agree that germans i've met are decent people, the point was that they, like most people, are not aware enough to be vigilant against foul machinations, whether against the rise of hitler, or, the flawed, GS-inspired eurozone project which forces hard working nothern europeans to relinquish national sovereignty and pay the debts of southern europeans.
and i don't know exactly what "hebrews" are, but the jews i've met have all been very decent, upright, intelligent people, some i've been very good friends with - and contrary to popular opinion on zh, none of them have been bankers - mostly programmers, scientists and engineers.
there is no worldwide jewish conspiracy, but there is indeed a globalist conspiracy (the 0.00001% wealthiest of all people - bilderbergs, rothschilds, etc), and the state and global companies are their vehicles of choice. this is why i support anarchy (freedom) and small local companies.
Decent people have ZERO TOLERANCE for THEFT and DISHONESTY.
No the Germans are not decent at all. Neither are the Americans in that matter.
And PRIDE is an antithesis of Christianity.
It will be good to watch it all burn down as the entire framework of this nightmare is built upon the foundation of a Con Game Ponzi Scheme, Fraud, Deceit, Theft, Global Human Suffering and Murder.
Never underestimate the kool-aide gargling of the German sheeple.
German culture is superior to most other cultures in many way, and their hemogony is great when channeled for good thing thins e.g.,;
"Hans, ve need a grevat road zyztem fuer our Wehrmacht!"
Right now, the hemogany is
"We Europeans are one people, walking hand in hand, side by side fighting injustice, and spreading peace and democracy all over the world."
American living in Germany right now and you are 100% in my opinion....
The German's see what is happening and are preparing. Historically they have either been 100% on the right side of history or 100% on the wrong/left side. They do NOTHING half way!
Please elaborate on "preparing"?
Preparing: def. Fucking like there is no tomorrow as there well may not be one.
Hopefully preparing to assasinate the WOP Goldmanite Draghi for hinting at QE and devaluing the Euro.
The Euro went from .85 to 1.45 and German exports went up.
And they still keep going strong @ 1.10........
Lord Effington the Third Earl of Upper Crudney on the Thames.
Atheist, Anasazi Jew. Conservative / Libertarian who enjoys putting out logical arguments based in fact because it pisses off the irrational. And we all know "liberals" are the most illiberal of them all so they are pissed off the worst.
janus knew he had reason to be suspicious of you...
let me give you a few pieces of advice, mr. 16 weeks and 5 days:
1. if you're going to identify yourself as something, you should at the very least know what that something is. janus was willing to let the misspelling of 'athiest' pass without censure; and then you had to go and fuck up your ethnicity so badly as to make it indiscernible; not just a misspelling, mind you, but to butcher it so badly as to reveal your unfamiliarity with it. just what, pray tell, is a anasazi jew? it's sound's like something i should avoid stepping in.
2. you're not pissing off anyone because you're posing arguments based in fact; you're just pissing people off in a generalized fashion -- and without entertaining us in the process (we can take the annoying trolls; so long as they go about it with wit and/or panache).
3. if you intend to troll as a pseudo jew, you're going to have to step up your game. jews are a lot of things and clever is typically one of them; and your failure to bring the clever was the first thing that kinked my eyebrow.
certainly, i know we've a lot of passionate anti-semites that cruise this site; and i also know this site makes many hebrews very nervous...but, look, the simple fact of the matter is that the jewish issue has befuddled everyone from pharaoh to all of us blessed enough to live among them in the modern age.
i don't hate them; but when my fundamental nature is by them interpreted as a threat in my own nation, well, looks like we've got a very old problem on our hands...again.
i'll tell you this much: if what has befallen me and my family at the hands of new england's hebrews had happened to one of them in dixie...why, kleenex would be selling truckloads of tissues to the weeping and wandering hebrews the world over. and still i have no apology.
i'm waiting, judah.
sincerely,
janus
The concept of "virtue" is forever defined according to the culture/people using it. Virtue to one, may be anathama to another. "Virtue" is one of those slippery words that means exactly what you want it to mean... what you KNOW it means, but that may mean the exact opposite to one from a different culture/nation hearing it used/referred to by you.
Just saying... someone or a people who is/are described as "virtuous" has not been described at all in any meaningful way.
couldn't agree more, nofleur. for example, among the jews, it's a definite and unalloyed virtue to pawn-broke offa the locals (whomsoever they may be). in amongst we gentiles, usury and bloodsucking are 'anathema' (as proscribed by Moses' law).
i do indeed pity these scrawny and pathetic people, but i'm out of patience. in the diaspora/israeli complex, they cannot operate without hatred...and the time for both is at an end. it's either/or, hebrews. it's either israel or the the diapora, jews: you go ahead and choose. but, you cannot have both. you think you deserve everything; and you only survive because people like janus appreciate you. the world is weary of you, judah...and this is true in every single quarter.
and so, if in israel they want to define virtue as sodomy, usury, manipulation, fraud, duplicitiousness, hatred, envy, greed and mendaciousness...then by all means, go ahead and stilt a society upon it. no one will interfere. but in these times, in the age of the interwebs, these people can no longer exist as a cancer...as it's metabolized to such an extent that even we hebrophiles are appalled by it. time for chemotherapy or radiation or whatever extravagant therapy is needed.
so, jews, do you want that sandbox, or do you want to integrate?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaFyGZtvRxM
(beware those who feign as your friend)
choose wisely,
janus
You are nitpicking.
Or perhaps pick knitting and trolling a web of deceit? (Okay...end snark. I do not believe that.)
I guess that the counterculture may consider theft, dishonesty and murder a virtue whereas care, trust and honesty may be looked upon as human frailties, weaknesses, and character flaws.
Ideally you ascribe to a culture which values the virtuous attributes of honesty, trustworthiness, trust, nurture and these simple concepts which many here will proclaim.
So you are correct. I agree.
But what is so remarkably sad is that you felt the need to point that truth out here.
Janus, it's a little known branch of Judyism from way out west, on the border between New Mexico and Colorado.
The Toltecs kicked them out of the pueblo for being trolls and pissing off everybody around the campfire.
now that was clever.
+3
Remember back in 2009 when the CB's were close to failing?? The Fed printed some 17 T of O's and One's to cover the derivative loss on the books of the banks. They took the Fed's money, and now the Fed own the CB's.
An old joke holds that Swiss German Prince Wilhelm Hohenzollern once, while visiting Switzerland, was invited to attend one of the numerous military that citizens of this country are undergoing training.
At one point he asked the commander of the exercise: How many men under arms possesses you? He was told: One million.
The prince, later Kaiser of Germany, then asked: What would you do if my five million soldiers crossed its border tomorrow?
When the Swiss commander replied: Each of my men would give five shots and go home!
hehe.
Switzerland can field an army just about as big as the US. Nobody is going to be invading them any time soon.
The Swiss have geography on their side. Also (until US crap) a private oriented banking system.
If the Swiss people, voting freely, cannot see the sense in voting YES then hope is lost. And mutates to violence when the folly is right in the mirror and undeniable.
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A CCN report will show ISIS beheadings on Swiss ski slopes, of course.
Dik Chain-y too. Shotgun to the Farce.
That was a friendly hunting expedition. That was an accident that Cheney shot his attorney in the face.
Accidents happen, you know?
I have two front row tickets to the Shit Storms vs the Gold Bugs. Currently cheapest in years.
Where is Germany's Gold? Who knows? It has no doubt been rehypothecated by the US FED, so it could be ANYWHERE.
http://michaelepicray.com/2013/01/20/rehypothecation-a-fun-word-you-migh...
The Bundesbank knew that their gold would be "leased" into the market when they undertook the swap with the Fed back in the nineties. The gold can only be repatriated as fast as the leases are closed out. It is the bullion banks who are unable to close out the leases and return the gold without a serious disruption in the market.
Since most central banks have similar swap arrangements, it is vital that the public at large does not come to understand that such leases are impossible to close out. The gold receivables central banks have on their books are counted the same as bars in the vault as per IMF directives. No one in the public should see the fraud behind fractional reserve gold banking.
Nothing to see here, move along.....
Does that mean the gold has been Grubered?
what a hoot.. "gold and gold receivables" heh heh heh .ha ha ha.....
it's on the ledger.......
Gold at ny fed? she gone
great tune :-)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnVXIUyshng
It's a default, pure and simple, but it will go mostly unreported and unremarked by the MSM.
If they really need someone to blame, I'll oblige. All I ask is 1% of the missing gold.
I'm Canadian and I'm buying.
It's farging cold up here.
Ya Pussy, Just took the dogs to the park it's crisp at best. Beautiful Day. Barely below zero, I was just wearing a Tee Shirt.
It's in my Basement come and take it. :-)
The truth of America's naked, iron-fisted hegemony is becoming embarrassingly apparent.
Want the REAL REASON why the Germans can't get their gold?
Because THE US STOLE IT.
Because THERE IS NO GOLD THERE TO RETURN.
Becuase THE US HAS NO GOLD.
Aaaaaand it's [it was always] gone. It's gone. It's all gone. This line is for people who have money with the bank only, please step aside. Aaaand.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TlPo0yCSa4
never gets old.
I need not even click on that video...Poor Cartman.
I bet the gold is there. The more pertinent quesiton to ask is to whom has is been pledged? I am betting the gold has been pledged to so many deals, swaps, etc. that no one can clearly show who owns what.
I'll take that bet. While zee gold may have been hypothecated, swapped and leased a hundred times, it has also been delivered.
it's been more than pleged - it's been flown to swiss refineries, re-cast into .999 kilo bars, and then sent to its final destination in china, where it probably won't see the light of day again for centuries.
And you really believe that China's Central Banksters will not pull off the same Ponzi Game as America's banksters?
Do you really believe that they are immune from the Human Frailties of Greed and Avarice?
Once they have solidified their power base then they will also lease it out.
I give them FIFTY YEARS...if the World does not descend into Global Thermonuclear War in the mean time.
I will not be alive to see it.
But I know that it will be the same that it ever was.
China is not all that creative as their society is too structured. But they certainly have learned to copy policies of other Nations.
They are definitely not going to be a utopian socirty. They will not imagine anything else new orimproved. Too much structure and too much centralized control which breeds obedience to the state is endemic in that Social Framework.
The Jews (Rothschilds, etc) have it, of course. I thought everyone knew that by now. People can be dense, I know.
Right, millions of Chinese jews... get a life.
Only their own and the stolen one
Ignatius
You Rock!
“All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed.
Second, it is violently opposed.
Third, it is accepted as being self-evident”
Arthur Schopenhauer
:-)
isn' that was is happening through radical islam these days?
First they ignore you,
then they laugh at you,
then they fight you,
then you win
Ghandi
should be Gandhi. Sometimes I think of him as a British construct ( possibly the template for Mandela ).
He left out, "First, it is ignored". Then the rest would follow as you have it.
Yanks/NSA must have overheard some really juicy stuff on Angela's phone to bring diplomatic pressure to bear.
The people who are allowed to run for office and stay alive are all controllable. They all have certain "proclivities", etc which can be used as blackmail. WHY DO YOU THINK THE NSA IS SPYING ON EVERYONE (other than industrial reasons)?
Its a pre-quirement that any person who is handed the reigns of institutional power has a burn file constructed on them.
Many are even shown pieces of their very own burn file, just to let them know it exists and will be used if necessary.
Its not really BM because nothing specific is required at the time.
More to just remind them of their "place" in things.
Some of them will trend towards more extreme behavior because they see the system covering up for them...
Really the system is just collecting more burn data.
Finally you get ones that spin off too hard and create spill-over.
Think: Clinton (blue dress), Various Congressmen in public places soliciting, etc...
Some of the old players (Clinton) are so big that "they are the system" and can "mop-up the spill-over" without getting booted out of the "game".
The lessor fuck-sticks get left twisting in the wind with the Ravens and Vultures of the Courts and Media picking at their addled corpse of a carrier.
EOT
It's not just the "controllers" that have burn files. It's becoming clear that to be a "somebody" in this world you need to sign with the devil. From Bill O'reilly rape allegations to NSA connections at Facebook, Bryan Singer child molestation charges, occult practing pop singers, and lest we not forget the king of eugenics- Bill Gates. What a price to pay for fame and fortune!
I think I'm happy being a nobody. At least I sleep soundly.
Most bankers and lawyers still don't bother to encrypt all their email communications, which provides some very specific and very target rich environments for the NSA electrolux.
And they still carry their phones with them, too. Don't need to say a word and you still know all their associates.
Undoubtedly, more than 95% are happy to comply, as long as it enlarges their bank accounts.
Plus the fact that 100% of them sold their conscience to Lucifer a long time ago.
They don't need much prodding to get in line.
Those who sit in power inside the NSA are now perhaps the world's most powerful men. They can destroy neraly anyone with the simple "leak" of the proper information to compliant "Corporate Media" who will do the job of destruction.
You have a very American mindset.
Fuck the Swiss! If you store your gold in a foreign country, you deserve to lose it. The US Fed motherfucked all of you into putting national wealth into the basement of a bank in New York City. EAT IT!
Angela creampied.
Paris has much better logistics.
I thought it was simple, like too little gold, and the Germans would just push up the price of the real stuff.
The world used to make sense.
Now logic seems to be laughable, until it isn't!
Even Armstrong seems to be pulling for the FED. How did they get him converted??
My my.
I think the story is a bunch of BS. Doesn't it seem more likely that Germany changed its mind after watching how Putin has operated since the end of the Winter Olympics?
I fell off my chair when the Scots voted NO to independence - when the Swiss vote NO to bringing their gold home I will remain seated.
I am now beyond surprise.
where is the outrage?
why does everybody only care about "Germany's got Talent", "The Voice" and a really badly photoshopped posterior ??
Because in no way can this good life ever go bad.
Just try to talk about this to people, first of all, they don't care and have a clue about economics and now even in my own family, I'm the coin guy... And they always say that in a not so funny way.
And if you show them a gold and a silver coin, they just drop them on the table after a few seconds because they have no idea what it is.
And when you tell them how much a gold or even a silver coin costs, they say NO WAY!
They only know low value common coins and they think there's more silver in a ring than there is in a ounce.
So if they hear about a billion euro's of gold, they imagine it's as much as a mountain of gold. What do they know?
So, try this:
If you have asked an American in 1910 ‘what money is’ he would have shown you a gold coin. If you had shown him a dollar bill he would tell you, ‘this is not money; dollar is a bank-note. It can become worthless overnight’.
Now, try to explain this concept to an American today as their source of information is misinformation and obscurity… and therein lies the problem of our monetary collapse”-- Keith Weiner, at “Monetary Metals”
Minor correction - a US "Dollar" today is ALSO a "bank note" created by the Federal Reserve Bank. And it's STILL "not money," and can still "become worthless overnight."
Germany has talent?
They stopped asking for it when told it's all gone .
Sounds plausible, but why can't the Fed just print up some money and buy gold like they do with stocks and bonds?
because they could only get their hands on paper gold. Who would trade 100 tonnes of physical gold for fiat toilet paper?
Not. How much gold did Russia purchase last quarter? Between July-August 2014 Russia added ~55 tonnes of gold to their reserves.
I believe that was their own production. Delivery of that is easy. Take these rubles and hand over yer gold (or else).
Why should they?
The real reason. The Fed was buying in the open market. Maybe they'll buy more once their paper derivatives drive the price down far enough.
They'll have to wait until it's driven down far enough.
L. Ron Hubbard was right....
Real truth: we traded it to the space aliens for the rights to go back to the Moon (HA HA HA, got 'ya on that one, huh?)
Riley Martin was right!
gold and cows.....
Why can China get 60 tonnes demand a week while these guys can't get a hold of a fraction of that?
Because of the wedge shaped sides it's very difficult to stack them up on carts and stuff. Gold is a very soft metal so you don't want them to tumble over... best just to leave them sit safely off sure in the USA
"The bars in the basement of the Fed on the other hand have a previously common form. They will need to be remelted [to LGD standard]. And the capacity of smelters are just limited."
Right. They need to be remelted . If that does not scream, "There is no fucking gold at the Fed because your gold was stolen ages ago", then I don't know what will.
At the height of the NSA blanket surveillance of Germany (The NSA is said to have monitored Merkel's phone for 10 yrs), around half a billion communication connections were said to have been monitored a month. I doubt they have that kind of backlog for Switzerland to use for blackmail so we're either in for a large scale ISIS attack in Zurich or a deal to give some honey to the Swiss banks in return for a very public repatriation of gold coloured tungsten to their vaults. It will be interesting either way.