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GruberGate: "Senator" Obama Vs "President" Obama
What a difference a few years makes...
Here is "President" Obama this week at the G-20 Summit distancing himself as far as possible from Jon Gruber...
2014: President Obama on Jon Gruber
"some adviser who never worked on our staff expressed an opinion that I completely disagree with"
And here is Senator Obama speaking at a 2006 Brookings Institution meeting, cozying up to Gruber and other academics...
2006: Senator Obama On Jon Gruber
"the brightest minds from academia and policy circles, many of them I have stolen ideas from liberally, people ranging from Robert Gordon to Jon Gruber"
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Once again, Obama is The King of Denial
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I have linked several times on ZH that video from another source, to prove that Obama was brought to power from bank lobby.
Check the background:
Bob Rubin
Where is the meeting?
Hamilton Project at Brookings
Who is the founder of Hamilton Project?
Bob Rubin
Who did Obama bail out?
Citigroup, Bob Rubin, Warren Buffett
What did Quantitative Easing do?
Continue bail out of warren buffett, primary dealers.
Who hasn't been elected by the Bank Lobby? Ford & Johnson. Did I miss somebody?
No. Bank lobby took power after soviet union collapse when Military Complex thought that they won and yielded power to bank lobby.
They have regretted it
thank you, ekm1. i'm so glad you a) returned, b) continue to hang around. your insights invariably provide much to consider.
Obama is a fraud, liar, and dope head. You can tell when he talks that he doesn't even know what his words mean.
http://youtu.be/ZAHDGmupr4E?t=2m35s
is anyone is actually surprised that he lied again?
If he were my son, he would have gotten a smack in the head everytime he lied.
Obama would lie even if telling the truth served a better purpose. It's what he does. It's who he is.
If the military wants to sit back at the head of the table of power, as EKM says, I wish the military good luck with that pplan. They're the only major chunk of the government budget that has seen ACTUAL CUTS. They've also bleeding headcount (on purpose) and the military leadership at high levels has been replaced with administration puppets, starting with Chuck Hagel.
The FSA (entitlements) are winning. Their budgets run on auto-pilot with both COLAs and demographics automatically taking a larger percentage of the pie every year. Checkmate, FSA.
That's about the way I see it and there isn't a good way out. A big crisis, especially in the markets will cause the house of cards to start a tumble with many knock on effect coming online. The 'smart' people think it can't happen but history has proven them wrong far too often for any wise person to bet any other way.
Obamacare will be nothing compared to the other coming "programs".
You've been Grubered
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41lTZaHMTCw
Obama: "We can do this, quick hand me that bucket filled with bum sperm!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKKaZhNXJe0
We corrupted some folks...
Yet 40% still think he walks on water.
This post courtesy of zerohedge spam.
We have to pass it to see whats in it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QV7dDSgbaQ0
I don't think so, Nodebt.
Military spending 1962–2015 (inflation-adjusted 2011 dollars)
Yeah, that's an inconvenient fact. If they've been "sitting back," it's because they've been busy collecting the money--and doing it in their own bizarrely unauditable ways:
http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/3614:department-of-defenses-unending-...
The only government department that has been unable to pass a simple audit . . . for over twenty years. Yet none of the blowhard "fiscal hawks" in Congress have uttered a single peep about it.
It's not hard to see where the most privileged parasites live in the .gov apparatus. Snuggling warmly between Congress' precious ass cheeks.
Vested interests and dishonesty are a fair point NoDebt.
Another point is the absolute disconnect of these "policy making" folks from the real world. If you spend your entire life with your nose in legal, or economic textbooks, you get people working around theoretical models. I can go around economists that I know and pick the guys who have spent (even just two years of) time in the private sector. Krugman is a classic example of a theoretical economist. He is a smart guy, he honestly is, but living in an utter dream world*.
It is the equivalent of putting a 17 year old teenager in a racecar because they have watched a lot of NASCAR, or Formula 1, on TV. Chances are that kid is going to end up in a fireball on the side of the track.
Used to be, or so I am told, that people had to work through some tough times and there was a wider overlap between public sector and private sector experience. Being a politician should not be a full time career path for academics from ivory towers. Nor should it be the most lucrative, and best paid position around. It is a (fairly) secure income, barring catastrophic events which might happen to a well-managed country once every two to three generations, and your average individual in the private sector faces significantly more risk in their job. It should be a pursuit of public interest for, hopefully, well-meaning citizens who come from a range of backgrounds.
I see these jackasses gutting the economy, threatening war, and pushing us dangerously close to a very serious outcome, and all the while adding on more and more layers of legal jargon, excessive spending, and bureaucracy. This is a very real and serious issue.
*Edit: and one final point- I do not detract from academic work. It has its place. Krugman is a workhorse, which is something I can respect, even if his opinions and solutions are often highly impractical in the real world. I just literally got out of a discussion about the labor force, where an economist (a real Krugman type) suggested that the government should "seek to set the minimum wage at the market equilibrium." I cannot tell you how flawed this idea is. Even if the equilbrium between labor supply and demand WERE static, which it isn't, the mathematical probability of anyone picking a number out of thin air and hitting the exact figure they need to on a continuous probability distribution is zero. Yes. His suggestion was mathematically impossible.
This is the sort of thinking we need to be wary of. He is a very booksmart guy. He knows it, and he overreaches with theoretical models. Attempting to apply them to the real world.
Yeah, I have always thought he is just reading what's given to him. Reward: more dope.
THAT’S NOT FAIR —
Electronic recording devices and internet storage are a bitch.
This may be one of the best smoking guns in my lifetime. It is right up there with Wild Bill Clinton and the "I did not have sex with that woman." followed by the blue stained dress.
Yeah!
gruber is a grifter... Also, a comic book hero... according to himself: http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2014/11/jonathan-gruber-obamacare-stupid-voters-couldnt-happen-nicer-shill.html
yes, but ekm1 is imho often a bit too sure of himself. A lot of interesting conjecture, not many sources to back it up.
He seems to have a strong intuition, but intuition alone is not enough.
Not being an arse or anything. Just that these are the same people. Bankers finance & run the Military. Very profitable business.
Goes centuries back, but the Federal Reserve Act was implemented for one reason: Finance WWI, which hasn't really stopped.
No. Military does not need any financing. It can simply go and get it by force.
It is the bankers who need military, not vice versa
I find it hard to square this view with Smedley Butler's points of war being a racket for corporations and banks.
Militaries who cross the borders of their national states 'hire' others to allocate the "booty" they seize.
If those whom they hire do not do proper allocation or backstab them, they simply get told first and then eliminated if resistance occurs.
That is human history. That is the concept how roman army or british army operated under, distribution of seized booty
Praetorian guards killed many, many emperors for simply failing to pay expected wages in gold/silver
Bank lobby has wasted the booty. They will be out soon. Other oligarchs are ready to be hired in exchange for loyalty
Interesting. Your puppet comes to life and betrays you. Pinocchio?
I dont know about this crap Missy. ZH seems captivated by ekm1 and his "predictions". How he figures the Bank Lobby is "dead" is beyond me. Look at the facts.....record profits and bonuses. Same old bullshit.
Look at the facts.
Business is being taken away, theft is being published.
Harm by attrition.
ekm1 you posted like 18 hours ago, but tend to agree you don't see all the groups or explain them well, you don't explain much very well at all, and clearly you see a black or white situation most often... which seems a cognitive error.
For instance CIA is known to create or find banking, funding, enterprises, maybe gold or wealth to help with their own activities. I just don't see that in the $1 Trillion Dollar MIC.
Where is the Power:
- New York, London, EU Banks, they can create money for any asset investment, or loan, or to re-sell something
- MIC, including the DoD, Engineering Firms, Energy Firms, Infrastructure Firms, Oil Firms, Logistics Firms, Outsourcing Firms
- Big Pharma
- Big Agriculture & Chemicals
- Oil & Gas, Mining, & Chemicals
- Lobbying, Wealthy, Elites, International Organizations like WB, IMF, BIS, OECD, UN, WTO, UNESCO, WHO, ASEAN, G8, G20, BRICS
I'll have to repost this where you post again this week.
" i just voted for him coz he's got big nose "
And the Banksters can get it by farce...
today one is confused reading comments like: obuma is a repub, we knew it all along he was an R...a neocon.
well he got caught in another lie, and some of our progressive types can't come to grips with it so they must justify his actions as not one of a true progressive like ahh gruber oh shit.
"Military does not need any financing".
Robert Skidelsky ( Emeritus Professor of Political Economy at the University of Warwick, England ) on Nial Ferguson's book The Ascent of Money :
'An often enlightening and enjoyable tour through the underside of great events, a lesson in how the most successful great powers have always been underpinned by smart money' ( Italics are mine )
Your thinking is really too compartimentalized. You do not seem to see the links, complementarities and mutual dependencies of various players. And you seem obsessed by a almost life-or-death power struggle between different groups of the American power elite, which I doubt is taking place.
If you are, maybe unconsciously, hinting at the risk of an escalation of ethnic conflict in USA ( like we have seen in Europe ), then I agree there needs to be continued concern and attention to prevent that.
Just another PHONY scandal , right , Barry ?
I think George Washington made it own his own.
You mean before he married the rich widow or after? By the way if you have never seen Washington's wartime expense account you are in for a shock.
That was a popular paperback in the 1970s.
Andrew Jackson
Love 'ole Hickory. However, wasn't he put in by the Whigs? They were our version of the main Republican Party. The Tea Party of the time, the Patriots, were the non-Banker Conservatives. The Whigs were largely Bankers.
Could be wrong. I think he was a early version of Bush Boys.
You're wrong, Jackson was a Democrat. In fact, he founded the Democratic party, which had been called, in the truthful spirit if the age, the Repiblican-Democrat party. (Look it up) Today, we have come full circle and again have the same party, only now we don't have any Whigs to counter it. As the first Democrat, Jackson advocated for western states, opening up trade routes, killing Indians, and destroying Central Banking power. Kind of a mixed bag, but I am pretty sure if he saw Obama he would have run the mulatto down in the street, flogged him with his cane, and then pistol whipped him and sent him back to the plantation.
Once a fudge packer, always a fudge packer.
"Who hasn't been elected by the Bank Lobby? Ford & Johnson."
The mafia had a hand with putting Johnson into office?
http://www.amazon.com/Betrayal-Dallas-Street-President-Kennedy/dp/162636...
http://dailycaller.com/2014/03/14/why-jack-ruby-was-probably-part-of-the...
Ford wasn't elected.
He was APPOINTED (by, of course, the Ziocon banker lobby).
Part of his reward for taking part in the Warren Commission report.
WHIP INFLATION NOW! Roll over, Liberty...
Obamacare Ratings dip to new low... ....
http://hedgeaccordingly.com/2014/11/obamacare-popularity-dips-to-new-low...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-5Y74FrDCc
Here's the full speech, from the source I used to post this several times on ZH in the past
thnx for above link.
The election budget directly influences the # of votes. So Wall St candidate wins, [as everyone else has to pay with real money and therefor cannot compete], and the newly elected puppet starts QE & Zirp for Wall St, dwarfing the origional 'investment' they made by a huge margin.
1$-in-18$ ratio of QE $ reaching Main st.
Did I miss anything out ? ...<rhetorical Q>
The pre-teleprompter Obola reading annoyingly from his prepared notes.
Will SNL do a new Mcgruber skit?
It is a fact, he is a creation of Bob Rubin. The perfect candidate, groomed and tamed, incapable of going against them. They have him by the balls.
Bob Rubin should be Prohibited from Law, Banking, Politics, Treasury, FED, SEC, FINRA, FDIC, IMF, WB, BIS, OECD, Harvard and DoD.
Rubin oversaw the loosening of financial industry underwriting guidelines which had been intact since the 1930s.[1](He must know the Ebola Czar then!!) His most prominent post-government role was as director and senior counselor of Citigroup, where he performed ongoing advisory and representational roles for the firm.[2] From November to December 2007, he served temporarily as chairman of Citigroup[3][4] and resigned from the company on January 9, 2009. He received more than $126 million in cash and stock during his tenure at Citigroup,[5] up through and including Citigroup's bailout by the U.S. Treasury.
- He is co-chairman of the Council on Foreign Relations and sits on the board of the Harvard Corporation, Harvard University's executive board. Rubin is chairman of the board of the Local Initiatives Support Corporation, the nation's leading community development support organization, ...
- From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
(Redirected from The Hamilton Project) The Brookings Institution
Fuckin' A. This shit is sick.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DI7pPVJTeSY
Rev Wright got the same treatment.
So did the Debt Ceiling...
"Increasing America's debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that "the buck stops here". Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren.
America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. America deserves better.
I therefore intend to oppose the effort to increase America's debt limit."
-Barack Hussein Obama
March 16 2006
"Now, this debt ceiling -- I just want to remind people in case you haven't been keeping up -- raising the debt ceiling, which has been done over a hundred times, does not increase our debt;
it does not somehow promote profligacy. All it does is it says you got
to pay the bills that you've already racked up, Congress. It's a basic
function of making sure that the full faith and credit of the United
States is preserved."
It's just another case of say anything and do anything to get what you want. Talking out of both sides of your mouth increases the chances someone will like what you say, and vote for you. This is especially true of democrats. They hated Bush 43's guts, yet Obama is Bush cubed in more ways than one. And there is nothing but silence from them.
If Bush was running around doing what Obama has done the last 6 years, the D's would be screaming bloody murder. But since it's Obama, they are eerily silent.
What you say is painfully evident. The R party has condemned themselves in many other ways - especially the establishments within both parties. The political process in the US is excruciatingly captured/broken.
nice one HH, Classic Doublespeak from 1984
.... suprised there isnt a gov 'dept of truth' yet....
Finally an instance where .gov follows the Constitution and farms work outside it's Constitutional scope to private enterprise. This work being the Ministry of Truth which, in this case, is an unrecognized as well as unconstitutional agency. Only problem is the deals were only granted to Rupert Murdoch, Les Moonves, Summer Redstone, Michael Eisner, and Jeff Bewkes. And none of these deals have yet been acknowledged, let alone disclosed. I can hardly call this due diligence on the part of anyone elected to congress. Or 'President'.
Bob "kill Glass/Steagall" Rubin.
Hate to brake it to you, but the official Front Men were 3 Republicans and 1 Democrat, who conjured the Repeal of the Glass-Steagall Act in Dec. 1999 (when Cliton had only weeks left in his Term).
Oh, and the leading plotician (spelled correctly) was a GOB from Texas: Sen. Phil Gramm. Who ended up on the Board at UBS. Those darn inconvenient truths. So let's stop the false paradigm of Rep vs Dems blame game crap, when "They are like the Left and Right leg of the same DC scumbag: Left, Right, Left, Right..."
"If I say enough words maybe the folks won't pay attention to every one of them"
"to everyone of them"
Are you speaking in Ebonics? Sounds like this to me:
Use the word "income" in a sentence:
"I be in bed wid da Hoe, and INCOME my wife!!"
LOL, I see you edited.
folks
We Grubered some folks.
"If I say enough words maybe the folks won't pay attention to every one of them"
Unfortunately, most folks don't pay attention to ANY of them...that's exactly what he/they bank on...although he's finally losing his grip. But what's the difference? He was just a spectacular distraction for the bankers and the MIC. Oh how they made hay, with so little accountability.
now what's more retard than that?
Related: Gruber: Obama personally asked me to help disguise unhelpful Obamacare facts
Let's see, wasn't Robert Reich in the room as well?
As soon as these bulligerents are caught, their selective memories are brought to the fore by their past capturings on YT and other places of reposit.
The most frustrating part is the sheeple who blindly sashay along the well beaten path of denial.
DaddyO
You don't hack off 3 inches of dick so you can pull up your zipper!
Has Obama told the truth about ANYTHING since he showed up on the scene?
Fracked if I know!
I believe this one will leave a mark, people may not understand the how they are being fucked but they know pain when they feel it. The middle class is seeing the old meme "tax the rich" as it really is, "tax me"
G20 while President versus Brookings Institute as a Senator = perfectly reasonable reason to lie out your ass (mouth). *cough*
Gruber was a presenter amongst the eight people, including Obama, speaking at the conference!!!
Pelosi denied knowing who he was, but in 2009 mentioned Gruber's research at a press conference!
"You LIE!"
I doubt if even the Negros believe Obama at this point. And 87% of them voted for Obama in 2012.
The House of Cards is in full meltdown. Won't be long now.
The House of Cards is in full meltdown. Won't be long now.
Obama is a sociopath.
E-mail this to every "journalist" you can find.
I think there are about 5 left.
FCC official warns Obama backed net neutrality plan will bring backdoor tax on internet:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/11/17/fcc-official-warns-obama-back...
So Gruber never worked for the White House and Obama disagrees with the Gruber comments that are causing the kerfuffle. This is then contrasted with a speech given in 2006 where Obama mentions Gruber as an academic with a bright mind and from whom Obama has taken policy ideas. These are supposed to be contradictory? A little feedback from editors or colleagues never hurt anybody IMO.
Obama made secret deals with the pharma companies and hospitals prior to pushing obamacare through. It was all known at the time. Obamacare was a corporate gift. No prices declined, nothing changed, and a marginal amount of people were provided insurance. This is how everything works.
Some things have indeed changed. For example: cost to insure a family of 4 with catastrophic plan ($10k deductible) = $380 per month. Cost to insure same family in 2014: $880 per month with bronze plan.
Open enrollment time!! Oh boy! Just got word that my insurance went up $150 per month. I am healthy and never even went to the doctor in the last year.
Just how is a middle class family supposed to afford a health insurance payment that costs more than their mortgage, and doesn't pay shit?
A collossal waste of money. And in the end, if you get reallty sick, you're bankrupted whether you have insurance or not.
So, why even bother with it? I've reached that point.
Compliance is how this clusterfuck continues. Once compliances stops, en masse, it will be over full stop.
Just when you thought it couldn't get worse, it does.
They're so ate up with the dumbshits they haven't even taken down their touting of Grubers "work" from their own website...
http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2009/11/29/mit-economist-confirms-senate-health-reform-bill-reduces-costs-and-improves-coverage
But of course, by then Nancy-Ann DeParle's own office (the White House Office of Health Reform) had already commisioned Gruber (with our money) to write the report that she was now touting on the WH website...lol...gawd what a scam.
Improper? Perish the thought!
Criminal? Whats your name fella?
Propaganda? Un-American! Seize him!!! ;-)
Oh, and btw, I wish to thank the citizens of the great state of Florida, why, in fact, all of the citizens of all of the states of the great country for the unintentional but really really nice gift of like $400MM/year for these past years since our Sainted Senator has passed on. Yep, Ol' Teddy did in fact put one ovah on all y'all!
Come to think of it, Gruberz' compensation was close to what the Commonwealth has acquired. Go Figure????
Teddy continues fo have his intended effects even after all of these years.
- Ned
{Then again, poor Teddy has been on the wagon for the last 5 years or so, poor bastard}
lol...what always makes me laugh is when these crony-socialists recoil in absolute horror when someone of prominence refuses to be bribed with a federal subsidy.
They say: "Why, you're not being pragmatic! In fact you're hurting the people of your state by not accepting this brib...errr, subsidy."
Just for once I'd like to see the target say: "You're attempting to bribe me and my state with my fellow citizens own money that .gov stole from them."
To which the crony-statist always says: "But you'd be returning it to them."
Which should be met with: "You're asking me to be an accomplice to a crime?"
Which should be met with: "You're asking me to be an accomplice to a crime?"
Which should be met with, "Why not just stop stealing it to begin with."
Gruber didn't know what was in it till it past the congress nmewn.
And Obama had neve rheard of Gruber till today along with the rest of us.
And stuff...
It's outrageous that neither the IRS scandal nor this is having any traction with the media outside of FOXNews.
If this were a Republican, this would be on the news every single day.
Yea, it's amazing, isn't it, khakuda. The MSM's bias is blatant and pervasive.
I remember how the media treated Reagan. It was fucking thermonuclear war 24/7.
The old media has committed hari kari with their ridiculous leg tingling adoration of Obombya.
They don't care. They were finally able to get one of their own marxist assholes in the oval office so they don't even pretend anymore.
Obama is a Marxist con man and it's time to impeach his ugly presidency now.
These lies make Nixon's Watergate look like child's play. The health care of every individual citizen in the US has been put at risk because of the lies in order to pass this disasterous law. Nixon's criminal activity didn't even come close to affecting individual lives.
Inasmuch as Nixon's criminality involved re-election (of course he was forced from office), imagine all that O's political machine did that was illegal, or borderline illegal - starting with his take down machine when he ran for Senator. Yes, he was well looked after, and all he really had to do was read those speeches...and his love affair with the teleprompter was born. Yeah, his campaigns raised massive cash from illegal sources, by not checking on the overseas addresses. Do you think anyone (was able) to pursue that illegality? Yeah, I know that the other party doesn't represent dime's worth of difference really, and that Obama was the bank's coronated grand distraction. I mean look how long it's taken the diehard Ds to finally begin to question their wunderboy.
End the FED. Get funny money out of politics. End the legal and rules advantages to the 2 party system, and start representational 3rd, 4th and 5th parties with power sharing.
I agree with you and I also would point out that unfortunately third, fourth, and fifth party systems in Europe fair no better. Give me very strict term limits and make their jobs all part time and I can more than likely live with the outcomes.
Dr. Michael Hudson pointed out the other day in an inerview, that Obama is a Republican. Period. He's a Repubican, and a neo-con, and a One World Order guy; with a smile and a gift of lying.
Obama a Republican. lol. Did you know if my aunt had nuts she'd be my uncle?
Actually, looking at it with stone cold objectivity, Obama is a repub in all but name in many areas.
Looking at it from strictly a repub view:
Repubs have always wanted illegals for cheap labor. Even if they become legal, the labor pool vastly increases, and more illegals follow. Wash, rinse and repeat. Repub policy.
Repubs like insurance companies. Insurance companies got a put option with obamacare (big time), and curiously they are not bitching about it. They shouldn't. They now have a captive audience and guaranteed profits. Repub policy.
The unions are mad as hell over obamacare. Very severe voter remorse. Gruber told you exactly how Obama fucked them. A repub could have never got away with this shit in their wettest of dreams. Repub policy.
QE, non-prosecution of banksters, wars and shit....no change from prior. De facto Repub/Dem policy.
Except for expanding EBT dramatically, and chiming in from time to time as to how black thugs can be his sons (appeasing that part of his small but vocal base), homos (he only changed his stance once he lost the white voter last election)....he does appear to be more of a repub than he is given credit for.
Just my thoughts.
Look at his entire life's work. His voting record is as extremely liberal as it gets from his time in the Illinois capital through his time as the most progressive Senator in Illinois history. Read his autobiography and his views on a single payer health care system and you don't come away with conservative Republican.
Your ideas on Repub policy differ from mine that's for sure. Listen to R. Limbaugh for a week or so and see if he includes those in conservative Repub policy. I can assure you he doesn't but see for your self.
The only thing Obama could be bothered to vote for in the IL senate was child sacrifice laws(abortion for all you modernists). He voted against a provision where a Dr. would provide medical care to save a baby after a botched abortion. The fact that no one seemed to care about such a sick outlook on life is a damning indictment on the condition of the American electorate.
In the Name of Love, One more Drone in the Name of Love, One more War in the Ukraine, Syria, Iraq, Turkey, Iran In the Name of Love.
Song is about Democide and the Violence of Government in the name of Democracy. Barack Obama is a War Monger, so is Hillery.
Democrats give a shit about cheap labor, they want the underclass votes given the black population has not grown anywhere fast enough to make up for their typical losses (not easy to survive with a job and enjoy liberal policies). Hispanics provide the growth demographic that blacks have failed to deliver.
Republicans like insurance just like they like ALL business. Right or wrong, until recently insurance was still a choice and was still private. We know that will not last long with spiraling costs and those running the insurance companies have seen the righting on the walls. When the shit storm is over insurance will be government run and those who signed on to this crap with their insurance companies will be vacationing in some distant paradise. Their golden parachute was packed three years ago. Look how many of their execs are Obama long time buds.
Unions have contributed more to democrats than any other single bundler especially when looking at boots on the ground. Union employees (unlike their leadership) have been on the losing end of their political heroes policies for years watching their numbers shrink, but they keep voting for democrats anyway.
Bankers are DEMOCRAT you fool as are many in the MIC
You need to reconsider what exactly it means to be a democrat. I think you have been confused for a long time. There are few natural democrats. They must be created, nurtured and developed. They must perceive themselves as weak and in need of protection. They must be dependent and they must be motivated to vote for those who will support their dependency at all costs. Kill the markets, kill the jobs, eliminate all alternatives to self sufficiency and then demand they vote lest they starve. Show me one democrat who wants nothing from the State. No protection, no money, no food, no affirmative actions, no special set asides for their race, their sex or orientation, their nationality, their religion, their occupation? The white male is the only predominant conservative demographic left because he is the last and least apt to ask for anything except to be left the fuck alone.
Very impressive post. + 1000.
I can't even hold a conversation with a Liberal Technocrat hardly anymore. I want to puke on the floor. I'm becoming, less politically correct.
Hope, Hope and Change!!!!
Death of the Liberal Class is a book by Chris Hedges. He even proves that the Churches have lost their nerve to be around poor people.
It is True. There is no Left anymore. Liberals are afraid of the Homeless and the Poor. Liberals don't want to be anywhere around the Poor & the Homeless. US Liberals are Frauds. Democrats are Frauds. Republicans are Frauds.
- You have to start with a Conservative Basis to operate Business, Government or Charities. (I don't see this in US Congress anywhere)
- I can't tell the difference between Democrats or Republicans. Both wait for Gifts and Lobbyist to tell them what to do along with international organizations put together by the Elites like Rockefeller.
- If I had a Business I'd want cheap labor or even Black Market Labor... or I'd want to Outsource or Off-Shore. I'd also want to join Chamber of Commerce to lobby for Tax Avoidance.
- Hillery, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, they all are Investors... They could give a shit about the Poor or the Homeless, They want the Status Quo since it is what the Lobbyist want, 20 Million US Jobs in Hotels, Restaurants, House Cleaning, Yard Work, Construction... Democrats benefit from Black Market Labor, they already won as Talk about Amnesty has Drawn more Immigrants across the board, plus it is obvious there is a secret operation going on that brings Illegals from Central America, Probably is CAFTA-DR
dupe
All the Democrats and zero Republicans voted for the Affraudable Care Act.
So much for your 'thoughts.'
Fucking liberals. When their heroes fail they are cast out as republicans. How about simply a lying son of a bitch who will throw anyone under the bus for his own agenda. You should have known. Did you not see how he dumped Rev Wright? That was OK, right? After all, the ends justify the means, right?
You simply chose poorly so don't use it as an excuse to tar and feather republicans. They got enough problems without having to carry Obama.
Liberals can never admit that it is their ideology that is wrong for the country. They will always throw overboard one of their own in order to save the ideology.
To a commie they are all 'Republicans'...what utter horseshit.
These guys lie for a living and for THE CAUSE.
Where's my clown???
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmtaCZmzKWo
“Our ideas are so good that we can’t tell the truth.”
Do a site search of whitehouse.gov with Gruber in quotes. There are multiple articles there going all the way beck before Obamacare was passed. Obama is a stone cold lying basterd.
Its a hindsight propaganda gold mine isn't it?
From our gal Stephanie Cutter:
This afternoon, Jonathan Gruber of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology analyzed the Governor’s arguments and declared:
“The Affordable Care Act will not lead to widespread erosion of employer-sponsored insurance. Rather, it will provide the necessary protection for those who are suffering from the erosion that is already taking place.”
http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2010/10/21/employers-insurance-and-health-care
I suppose it all depends on ones interpretation of "widespread erosion" and over what timeline ;-)
Upvote. I'm experiencing a severe erosion of my disposable income trying to play by the rules.
Fuck the rules.
Coming to a Drudge near you.
I just did a Google News search on "Jonathan Gruber", perusing the first 40 hits, and the results were as expected: His (to-date) 7 videos have gone viral in the conservative media, not so much in the MSM.
The Washington Post has done yeoman duty, but, afaicd, other MSM outlets either defended Obama, or pooh-poohed what Gruber said. iow, business as usual.
CBS and NBC didn't even mention Gruber until after Obama responded to Ed Henry's question during the G20.
Yea, if we need Campaign Finance Reform to get the money out of politics, how do we rid the MSM of the Progressives who constitute 90-95% of its personnel, from executives to journalists?
After all, Progressives preach and crave equality, don't they? Ergo, they should be willing to do reverse Affirmative Action, and immediately hire thousands of conservative journalists to balance its blatant Progressive bias.
Oh, excuse me, I forgot. They're Progressives, authoritarians to the bone.
I can't help but think that the Washington Post and/or the New York Times had access to the Gruber videos long ago and are now grudgingly reporting on them only because not doing so would solidify the perception that they are lapdogs for the administration. Which, of course, they are.
The Times and Post have access to lots more than just the Gruber videos. They are certainly derelict in their duty to hold gov't accountable. That they don't expose what they know seems to go beyond merely bias. Who knows why they keep secrets? A lot of theories as to why they do keep them, but none of the theories besides bias are particularly cogent.
The problem the MSM faces by not covering the Gruber videos is that when the Supreme Court hands down their ruling citing Gruber and then the Republicans start "tweaking" Obamacare in 2015 citing the Gruber videos, how will they cover it and what will their viewers think?
It appears the MSM can't be shamed. They will report whatever bullshit reasons Obama gives, but little or nothing else.
As if the MSM was relevant. Who listens to that shit? If you look to any 'BIG' oligopoly with a trusting eye, prepare to get fucked.
Say what you want about Gruber.
But the fucker told you the truth, for once in your miserable, dejected, propaganda-filled lives.
If you are one of the O-bamanators that actually believed you were going to get (more) free shit for nothing.....then you should feel like a dumbass.
I said "feel" because if you supported this shit, you obviously are not capable of rational thought.
I would not try to start thinking now at your age.
You may hurt yourself.
Increasingly, the only thing that matters to most people is the free shit. It is becoming dishonorable to labor for cash, why its damned near prostitution.
He's lucky he hasn't had an "accident" yet.
Bumbu Sauce :Obama is a stone cold lying basterd.
That's his job, to lie, cheat, obfuscate, etc. He runs screen for the movers and shakers and in return he is allowed to shit on things domestically.
Everybody's all :Obama is a Marxist con man and it's time to impeach his ugly presidency now...
Allow me to chime in with the punch line to that joke. Joe Biden.
Impeach Biden too.. Consider it a walmart special. 2 Marxist for the price of 1.
+1
We will have no choice though if he violates the constitution with an executive order on amnesty. The impeachment process will at the very least keep him pre-occupied and possibly keep him from damaging the country and the office of the presidency any further.
They should him just so they can run against Biden rather than Hillary. That would be too funny for her to have plotted since junior high school to be president only to be beaten by a real life homer Simpson.
They should him just so they can run against Biden rather than Hillary. That would be too funny for her to have plotted since junior high school to be president only to be beaten by a real life homer Simpson.
the "before" and the "after" for The Crown Negro.
Obama tries to throw Gruber under the bus, fails.
More like, he went to throw him under the bus, and didn't notice that he was handcuffed to him.
It will be interesting to watch the big media ignore the hell out of this one. This will require some major contortions on their part, but they're used to circling the wagons and doing such things.
Expect a major distraction event within the media during next day or so to blow this away from any headlines.
Other than Fox, no network has shown the Gruber tapes. When they can't spin it, they black it out.
CIA-Obama, and any other pol or crat: "The truth is what I need it to be when I need it to be."
And people still think that "voting" works. LOL
An American, not US subject.
"Voting is like being tied up bent over a couch and being able to select the one that gets to do the deed. Except, the doer is usually already selected, and you just think you pick."
So two empty suits walk into a bar...
...Bartender says, "Hey there goys, why the long faces?"
"We've been Grubered in the ass!"
Hmmm, why has Obomber saved tax payers money on his botox and hair dye...?
oh, yeah he can't be bothered to waste all important golf playing time..........
Barak Hussein Obola Obama Soetoro Guber Barry Davis Totus --Nation State: United States of America current Imperial Ruler subject to the Queen. Don't ask what happened to the King.
We have been Gruber.
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Compared to my dislike and distaste for Bushie, is it possible to have even stronger dislike and distaste for the current POTUS?
Heck yeah! This guy makes my sking crawl.
Are you guys sure every POTUS from here on out is worse the one they replace?
How the fuck did he get elected twice? TWICE!!!!!
Election fraud. It's foolish to believe that Obama would exempt election fraud from his fraudulent life.
Thank you for bringing it up. How do we prove the obvious? He's only won in Illinois based on fraud, his opponents were all smeared and buried, then against Romney he had Benghazi and how many districts that voted 101% for him?
Because the alternatives were McCain and Romney?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=tcBjRfZO7QE
Obola is a Marxist
China's gov is his goal
2006: Senator Obama On Jon Gruber
"the brightest minds from academia and policy circles, many of them I have stolen ideas from liberally, people ranging from Robert Gordon to Jon Gruber"
USSA is been Grubered!
The Republicans are cowards.
The Republicans have been bought off for chump change.
Obama such a liar
The man is 10 lbs of shit in a 5 lbs bag
If they begin impeachment proceedings today they might be finished by the weekend ... so as to free Barry up for moar golf.