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Grubergate For Idiots (Such As American Voters): All You Need To Know In 2 Minutes

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Confused at just what Jonathan Gruber, friend (or not friend) of President Obama and Nancy Pelosi, said (and didn't say)? Here is the two-minute idiot's guide to the Obamacare architect (or not Obamacare architect)'s controversial comments (and just who did and did not know him)...

 

 

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Tue, 11/18/2014 - 19:17 | 5462907 Squid Viscous
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exactamundo! - H. Winkler

Tue, 11/18/2014 - 19:07 | 5462874 worbsid
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Gruber is not too smart because a really smart person would have kept his mouth shut and just smiled when asked a question.

Tue, 11/18/2014 - 19:12 | 5462886 Big Brother
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He may have an inferiority complex, wanting everyone to know how he helped pull one over on the american voters and was paid 1.6 mil to do so.  (Just an observation- I'd probably do the same thing).

Tue, 11/18/2014 - 19:36 | 5462964 Hey Assholes
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When I see him, I envision a dick in his mouth.

Is it just me?

Tue, 11/18/2014 - 19:54 | 5463015 LetsGetPhysical
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Obama or Gruber?

Tue, 11/18/2014 - 20:27 | 5463102 Hey Assholes
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69

Tue, 11/18/2014 - 19:10 | 5462880 sosoome
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Making people think they are getting something for free, or making them think they are getting away with something, are among the oldest con tricks in the book.

Tue, 11/18/2014 - 19:10 | 5462883 Big Brother
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Mr. Gruber is a pretty good strategist- he estimated the general voting population's intelligence well, and learn of the CBO rating parameters in order to get them to score ObamaCare favorably.  Not that I agree with ObamaCare, but clearly this fellow attained the desired outcome and was subsequently paid well for it. 

As I watch the pigs fly, I would like to see the administration admit and concede that THAT was their plan.  It's the lying, obfuscation, red herrings and all that that gives cause for my distaste of the current administration.

Tue, 11/18/2014 - 21:08 | 5463213 YHC-FTSE
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The correct honorific for a guy like Gruber is Cunt. He may be providing entertainment by embarrassing the administration, but his entire crowing attitude towards defrauding the public and apparently thinking he'll get away with it makes him a dangerous criminal of the worst kind. The kind with two passports and a sense of entitlement etched on his brain.

Wed, 11/19/2014 - 12:25 | 5465544 Abaco
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I think the correct honorific is target.

Tue, 11/18/2014 - 19:17 | 5462906 insanelysane
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I think the first step the Repubs need to do this January is to have the CBO re-score the ACA based on what is known today.  Then they can have a revote on ACA and see if the Dems will still support it with the new numbers.

Tue, 11/18/2014 - 19:18 | 5462914 VWAndy
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Is just me or did that seem like treason?

Tue, 11/18/2014 - 19:43 | 5462981 Atomizer
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You write up a business plan on a napkin. Once the ROI went viral in exorbitant costs, it became a domino effect to recover planned inflow monetary recovery based on timeline projections. The free ACA medical business model has turned into a flaming bag of dogshit in a paper bag.

Tue, 11/18/2014 - 19:20 | 5462923 himaroid
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Traitors rule.

Tue, 11/18/2014 - 19:20 | 5462925 NaiLib
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This exposé is absolutely fantastic. First the scam, then the exposure. Magnificent. . Thanks!

Tue, 11/18/2014 - 19:21 | 5462930 Atomizer
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Thanks Tyler. Keep American's alert. This all ties in with EO on Amnesty. Let the Kenyan in Chief get handed his ass. His community ball licking façade is quite transparent for most.

Tue, 11/18/2014 - 19:22 | 5462936 sandhillexit
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He couldn't help himself. He needed to gloat.

Tue, 11/18/2014 - 19:31 | 5462958 RabbitOne
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we get it...and Obama is Schicklgruber...

Tue, 11/18/2014 - 19:33 | 5462962 q99x2
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Eben the Q99X2 understood that Gruber. Haven't seen Eben since.

Tue, 11/18/2014 - 19:40 | 5462969 Dingleberry
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You can thank public teachers, their unions, and their statist liberal agenda for raising a bunch of fucking idiot retards.

I simply cannot fathom how an educated populace can fall for a plan that calls for free shit for the irresponsible, illegals, etc. while at the same time decreasing costs to the paying individual.  

Evidently, Gruber knew this about his union lemmings and youngsters that typically vote for liberal idiocy, and knew how to play them. Long, hard and deep.  He could've at least used lube.

A thoroughly complicit media actually stopped blowing Obammy long enough to call anyone who pointed out the obvious economic consequences of this fiasco "haters" "selfish" and shit like that.

Our nation is doomed. Lucky for us it's a big place, and you can move far away from these retarded, naive, stupd-ass fuckwads. 

For awhile at least.

That's what I did.

Tue, 11/18/2014 - 19:40 | 5462972 Vin
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I love the pelosi clips.   LOL!!  Good one.

Tue, 11/18/2014 - 19:57 | 5463019 Atomizer
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Alzheimer's disease, dementia symptoms, and Botox treatments must have had an adverse mechanism over Nancy. Pop one of those Pharmaceutical pills you set up for ObamaCare, Nancy. Perhaps you will overdose.

Tue, 11/18/2014 - 19:47 | 5462994 gwar5
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American voters were not that stupid because millions were storming the townhalls and getting beat up by union thugs to protest and fight against Obamacare.  We knew!

 

It took one party rule of both houses and the WH, and even then they had to cheat the vote past the people for congress to make it happen. That's pretty extreme. The people didn't do this or vote for any of it. It was very bitter process throughout. We knew!

The stupids were the American MSM propagandists who knew better and the 40% Gullibles who were either indifferent or who bought the propaganda. I also recall many Canadian and European cheerleaders from insolvent countries, the Piers Morgan and variety, chiming in with snarky comments implying Americans were backward and uncaring because the USA didn't already have socialized health care.

So who are the ones who really look stupid, uninformed, and backward now?  Hint: Not the people who were fighting tooth and nail against Obamacare!

 

 

Tue, 11/18/2014 - 19:50 | 5462997 Chalan
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I swear I could see Obama's nose growing near the end of the clip.

Tue, 11/18/2014 - 19:51 | 5463013 livefreediefree
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Please forgive me if I fucked up (ie, missed a pertinent post or three), but, after reviewing 100+ posts, none of them mentioned that the MSM is avoiding Gruber like the plague, just as they avoided any investigative journalism when the ACA was enacted.

Perhaps the MSM's dereliction of duty was worse during the IRS scandal; then again, perhaps Gruber is the fucking 1.3-billion-solar-mass black hole that broke the camel's back.

Tue, 11/18/2014 - 20:07 | 5463036 ronron
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ya, well, it's all fun and games till the stupid win an eye.

Tue, 11/18/2014 - 20:20 | 5463079 Sub MOA
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the "stupid " have an eye ....an eye on football porn and walmart baubbles forget it its hopeless ...

Tue, 11/18/2014 - 20:26 | 5463100 ronron
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yep. thanks for the slap.

Tue, 11/18/2014 - 20:11 | 5463055 GOSPLAN HERO
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FUCK'EM ALL!

Tue, 11/18/2014 - 20:16 | 5463067 Sub MOA
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Why is anyone here even analyzing this other than to vent disgust for the brain dead populace we live among ...anything more than that is mental masturbation and I use the term loosely.... there is NO fixing any of this shit No voting...NO backtracing No Nothing get it the only place all this is going is down down down and the only fuckin person I feel any sorrow for is my son who has to wade thru a life of misery thanks to the majority of fucking dolts called US citizens...blame the .gov banks and jooze ad infinitum the real cancer is the assholes who let it happen ...the fuckin bobble headed baubble chasin free shit chicken in every pot believing asshat living next door... lazy greedy fuck wads blah blah I could go on forever ..bottom line the majority of loosers did this to them selves and the rest of us=======> Forward we go into the fucking Void

Tue, 11/18/2014 - 20:15 | 5463070 Dr. Gonzo
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They never wanted single payer. They were just bluffing and that would actually benefit the middle class sick-care high cost burren.  They just wanted to gauge the eyes out of the dying middle class. Did anyone have a doubt?

Tue, 11/18/2014 - 20:32 | 5463116 Shizzmoney
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RE

They never wanted single payer. They were just bluffing and that would actually benefit the middle class sick-care high cost burren.  They just wanted to gauge the eyes out of the dying middle class. Did anyone have a doubt?

Bingo

They also want to kill Medicare.  And that's just the Democrats.  GOP wants to kill Medicare and Medicaid.

Tue, 11/18/2014 - 20:26 | 5463097 Lumberjack
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And congress, their families and staff exempted themselves from this idiotic act. Just like they gutted the stock act after enacting Sen. Scott Brown's piece of legislation barring congress from insider trading...

Tue, 11/18/2014 - 20:30 | 5463113 Shizzmoney
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What's missed throughout all of this bullshit is in the end: Gruber is right.

The fact that governments have paid this guy $6 million in "consulting fees" only proves that the American voter (and the govts they voted for) is in fact, a stupid moron.  Including this stupid "healthcare" bill.

The proof is in the pudding.

 

Tue, 11/18/2014 - 20:32 | 5463115 Sub MOA
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Someone told me this is a collective of those whom know we are all fucked so I ask ...WHEN DO WE START MAKING "SOAP"

only reason I ask is that apparently some of this crowd still employs empathy toward the rest of the sheeps ...ya know that save them from them selves kinda misplaced rhetoric... remember folks no man is an island ;)

Tue, 11/18/2014 - 20:35 | 5463125 Infinite QE
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Just know that there are thousands of these ZWO Grubers running amuck in DC, NYC and elsewhere creating chaos to benefit their own.

Tue, 11/18/2014 - 20:41 | 5463141 Fix It Again Timmy
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I got $6 million for dishing out bullshit and I'm laughing all the way to the bank.... Jon Gruber

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8-zjn-cVMI

 

Tue, 11/18/2014 - 21:20 | 5463240 Jstanley011
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Score an academic position then stick your nose up the politicos' asses, it's so easy even a dumbass can do it!

Tue, 11/18/2014 - 20:49 | 5463162 Gringo Viejo
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Fucking Excellent! Next to George Carlin's "The American Dream", this is the best video I've ever seen.

Tue, 11/18/2014 - 20:49 | 5463165 MeBizarro
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And of course no real substance including what the alternative is whether the AEI proposal last summer, the Patient Care Act, or the nonexistent House Bill.

Just focusing on a guy who is an academic and was stupid enough to stay something publicly any political scientist or a host of other people who know Americsn demographics well would privately agree.

Tue, 11/18/2014 - 22:11 | 5463386 Tall Tom
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The issue at hand is not that he insulted anybody's intelligence.

 

The issue is that he created this monstrousity of a Law and made it as complicated as he possibly could so that it could pass into law.

 

He is a FRAUDULENT ASSHOLE.

 

What a fuckin' SOCIALIST. You shun the Truth. Because of that you shall reap death and destruction.

 

You people are going to get your Civil War.

 

Hope you like walking and starving.

Wed, 11/19/2014 - 01:41 | 5464198 MeBizarro
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Yeah Gruber as an advisor was the one who crafted the benefit tiers, defined the benefit packages, established the reinsurance provisions, etc.  

If you really believe that you have no idea how basic legislature is crafted (say even fail basic civics) and you have a ridiculously simplistic understanding of how bills like this are passed including the reconcilation process.  AHIP and AHA had more of an impact than Gruber but keep ranting away.  

Tue, 11/18/2014 - 21:03 | 5463193 sosoome
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It all depends on the meaning of "transparency".

 

Tue, 11/18/2014 - 21:03 | 5463198 Fix It Again Timmy
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The dearly departed Gore Vidal grew up in the lap of luxury. Years ago in an interview, he said that if you heard the way the wealthy talked among themselves about the common man, you would never vote for one of them. Some things never change....

Tue, 11/18/2014 - 21:17 | 5463227 Jstanley011
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Ukk... Gkk... Mkk... Lkk... Akk.. Ukk..

Tue, 11/18/2014 - 21:35 | 5463290 americanspirit
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If somebody wants to earn a first-class guaranteed place in history they will blow this asshole's tiny little balls off and then cut off his dick and stuff it in his mouth.

Tue, 11/18/2014 - 21:43 | 5463316 ultramaroon
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I favor the Karankawa solution: open him up with a gut hook and eat his heart.

Tue, 11/18/2014 - 21:58 | 5463353 petedanels
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I've been waiting and waiting but nobody is stopping these freaks.  I'm not talking about elections either.  However the elections did say we're not alone.

Tue, 11/18/2014 - 22:09 | 5463381 Atomizer
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Transvestite vs. Metrosexual arguing over political partner ownership to a china manufactured slave labor Urn on fireplace mantle? You go girls.

Tue, 11/18/2014 - 22:19 | 5463411 luckylogger
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which asshole?

Kinda thinkin' the dude with the knife will be a busy little boy !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tue, 11/18/2014 - 21:39 | 5463303 Alananda
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Please send this to all your family, friends, and acquaintances beset, or soon to have upsetting news RE "Obamacare".  Let us hasten the revolution.

Tue, 11/18/2014 - 21:58 | 5463349 Tachyon5321
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THE IMPACTS OF THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT:

HOW REASONABLE ARE THE PROJECTIONS?

Jonathan Gruber

Working Paper 17168

http://www.nber.org/papers/w17168

The actual MIT study this clown provided includes an undergraduate paper mislabled as an unpublished manuscript from college student Sarah Miller.... Sarah has NO actual medical field experience, has never worked in the medical industry, but Gruber thinks she is an expert.

The MA State reference actual used is a negative to Obamacare because it shows under MA healthcare no companies under 50 emplyees could afford the coverage.

 

so on and so on...

 

 

Tue, 11/18/2014 - 21:58 | 5463354 dexter_morgan
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Where is the investigative journalism here? No budding Woodward & Bernsteins out there?

Tue, 11/18/2014 - 22:05 | 5463374 petedanels
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WHEN ARE WE GOING TO STOP THESE DESTROYERS OF OUR COUNTRY???

Tue, 11/18/2014 - 22:37 | 5463396 Tall Tom
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Well when someone books a trip to Cambridge, Mass., and visits him at MIT, then it may be a good start.

Wed, 11/19/2014 - 02:46 | 5464289 GoldIsMoney
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Not the next hundred years, but in the case they set the earth in fire. And they seem to keen it to burn it down thoroughly. And they have found enough to follow them. See: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-11-15/paralyzed-iraq-war-veterans-wri...

Tue, 11/18/2014 - 22:11 | 5463387 exartizo
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boy, did Mr. Gruber pull the wool over THEIR eyes.

Tue, 11/18/2014 - 22:15 | 5463401 luckylogger
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Wow- We now know that we were fuked by the political class so they could get money....

Dunno how but somebody will get rich from this.

Kudos to the dude for telling his story.....

Bet by the time the IRS gets done with hime the +6m turns into -2m + a year in the hooch.....

Honesty is bad in the land of the free ....

Especially in the most transparent administration ever.....

FUK EM ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tue, 11/18/2014 - 22:24 | 5463423 sosoome
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Just think. The bureaucracy is slap full of Grubers. They've been doing the same thing for decades, and mocking us behind our backs for being so gullible. Yes, gullible. Americans are not stupid, but they are overly trusting, and the con artists take advantage of it. Gruber is just the tip of the iceberg.

Tue, 11/18/2014 - 22:34 | 5463462 dexter_morgan
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Serious question, how do fucking brain stems like Pelosi keep getting elected time after time? She is the stupidest, ugliest, most annoying hag around. Most politicians at least have something going for them, even if it is just that they are great liars. She isn't even that.

Wed, 11/19/2014 - 09:12 | 5464741 Smilygladhands
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She is in a permanent mental recession

Tue, 11/18/2014 - 22:40 | 5463486 Bastiat
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Sen Baucus:   "Mr Gruber of MIT, He's got Big computer models . . .  "

Fucking electrolytes!  Gruber's got electrolytes.

 

 

Tue, 11/18/2014 - 22:59 | 5463609 dexter_morgan
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I like money

Wed, 11/19/2014 - 03:54 | 5464346 GoldenDonuts
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As long as the only things that matter in elections are stupid things like how much do you attend church?  Or What is your opinion on a woman's right to choose?   Tearing up over the flag.  How do you look riding a tank.   Or what gaff did you make or not.  Then you will keep electing empty suits (or skirts) with out souls, or thoughts, or concience.

Check list for improving the elected class.

1. Get the money out of politics.

2. Get the money out of politics.

3. Get the money out of politics.

4. Get the money out of politics.

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1,000,0000 Get the money out of politics.

Wed, 11/19/2014 - 08:57 | 5464688 Direct Democracy
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There would be no Obumocare if there was a Direct Democracy.  Representative government is a farce.

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