"Some Folks Lied" - How The Administration Fabricated Obamacare Enrollment Numbers

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Two months ago, to much fanfare by the progressive community, HHS, if not Dr. Jonathan Gruber, were delighted to report that as of August 15, Obamacare enrolment had hit 7.3 million sign ups, well above the 7.0 million goal.

Then a week ago we learned that "projection mistakes were made" after the "Obama administration revised its estimate for Obamacare enrollment, now saying - with the bruising midterms safely in the rearview mirror - that it expects some 9.9 million people to have coverage through the Affordable Care Act’s insurance exchanges in 2015, millions fewer than outside experts predicted."

The administration said Monday that around 7.1 million people across the country who picked plans during the current year’s open-enrollment period were still paid up for their coverage. That’s down from the eight million who the administration said had picked plans as of this spring.

Fast forward to today when moments ago Bloomberg reported, that "the Obama administration included as many as 400,000 dental plans in a number it reported for enrollments under the Affordable Care Act, an unpublicized detail that helped surpass a goal for 7 million sign-ups."

In other words, "some folks lied" because without the dental plans, the government would have had 6.97 million people with medical insurance under Obamacare, investigators for the House Oversight and Government Reform committee calculated, using data they obtained from the U.S. Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services.

Blending dental and medical plans let the administration assert that enrollment remained greater than 7 million, the original projection of the Congressional Budget Office. The move also partly obscured the attrition of more than 1 million in the number of people enrolled in medical insurance.

The stunned administration, shocked at being caught in one after another lie, is scrambling to make up a credible story: "Kevin Griffis, a spokesman for the U.S. Health and Human Services Department, said he didn’t have a comment yet, hours after being asked for one."

Maybe they should just let Dr. Gruber explain it all to the dumb American public: after all the voters are so dumb, the difference between 6.9 million and 9.9 million is beyond confusing.

For some, it was clear the administration was about to rig the data:

The administration had supplied information about dental plans separately in earlier disclosures. In May, the government reported that 8 million were signed up for health plans and 1.1 million were in dental coverage.


Then in September, the numbers became less transparent. The Medicare agency’s administrator, Marilyn Tavenner, released a new enrollment figure, obtained from insurance companies participating in the exchanges: 7.3 million people were “enrolled in the health insurance marketplace coverage,” she said at a hearing by the Republican-led Oversight committee.


Tavenner didn’t elaborate or break out dental plans. Reporters asked a spokesman for her agency, Aaron Albright, for more detail about the number after the hearing: He said he had no additional information about it.

And now, some folks are "appalled"

“After touting 8 million initial sign-ups for medical plans, four months later they engaged in a concerted effort to obscure a heavy drop-out rate of perhaps a million or more enrollees by quietly adding in dental plan sign-ups to exchange numbers,” Republican Darrell Issa of California, chairman of the Oversight committee, said in an e-mail from a spokeswoman.


Charles Gaba, a Bloomfield Hills, Michigan-based blogger who backs the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act and has accurately forecast enrollment, was among those who found Tavenner’s announcement encouraging. He had predicted enrollment would suffer attrition of about 3 percent per month; Tavenner’s figure suggested the rate was lower, only about 2 percent.


This is FANTASTIC news,” he wrote at the time.


He said yesterday that he is “appalled” to find out dental plans were included in the figure.

And the absolute punchline via Bloomberg: "The 7 million threshold appears to be important for the administration, said Douglas Holtz-Eakin, president of the American Action Forum, a Washington advocacy group aligned with Republicans that has opposed the health law. “It’s a little weird,” Holtz-Eakin, a former CBO director, said. “Usually, the goal is for the forecast to hit the reality, but here the reality is being massaged to hit the forecast.

Yes, just a little weird. "Instead of offering the public an accurate accounting, the
administration engaged in an effort to obscure and downplay the number
of dropouts,” Darrell Issa said. And consider this is the same administration whose media lackeys went apeshit on Jack Welch who, correctly, blasted the White House for fabricating employment data ahead of the 2012 presidential elections.

Because what we have yet again, is outright and very premeditated data manipulation and fabrication coming from the very top power echelons of the republic.

At least today Philly Fed "10 sigma" beat is the god's honest truth...

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PartysOver's picture

Say it ain't so.  They lied?

American peeps too stupid to realize it.

knukles's picture

Some folks say thay's lyin' 'bout the number people infected (for real) with Ebola, too

General Decline's picture

Nice photo of Obama paying homage to the dark lord.

knukles's picture

Some folks say thay's lyin' 'bout the number people employed for real, too

macholatte's picture



Is President Obama A Pathological Liar?




Stacked up, his whoppers would make even Bill Clinton blush. Here's a sampling:

Lie No. 1: Obama has repeatedly claimed his white grandfather, Stanley Dunham, "fought in Patton's army," when he was a clerk with no combat in WWII.

Lie No. 2: Obama claimed Dunham, a communist sympathizer, signed up for duty "the day after Pearl Harbor," when in fact he waited six months.

Lie No. 3: Obama claimed his father "fought when he got back to Kenya against tribalism and nepotism, but ultimately was blackballed from the government," when in fact he fought against capitalism and lost his job when he advocated communism.

Lie No. 4: Obama has claimed his late mother's health insurer refused "to pay for her treatment" for cancer while citing a "pre-existing condition," when Cigna paid all her hospital bills and never denied payment.


there's more.....

Surly Bear's picture

Since we're talking dental plans, how many were PDPs?

pods's picture

Was anyone expecting accurate and truthful reporting?


Ying-Yang's picture

"Obamacare enrolment had hit 7.3 million sign ups"

What they meant to say, the Obamacare website had 7.3 million hits.

greyghost's picture

they miss count 400,000 on 7 million....who fucking cares.......? what a waste of time

aVileRat's picture

Reuters laying off 30% of their editorial staff, to focus on outsourced content is clearly going to improve investigative reporting standards & keep goverment accountable.

Anyone who believes the jolt, jobs or any white elephant for DNC fundraisers has either no market experience or 2.) is on the take.


Save_America1st's picture

meanwhile, haven't around 20 Million people LOST their coverage all together due to obamacare? 


And hasn't everyone else who still has a plan through their companies had massive rate hike increases due to obamacare???


CoastalCowboy's picture

I can't afford health insurance now thanks to Obamacare. I have the audacity to make just enough money to not qualify for any subsidies while not actually making enough to actually be able to purchase the health insurance. I'd suck car exhaust until death before I ever took a government subsidy for anything.

I could have easily afforded health insurance prior to Obamacare. If you hold a gun to someone's head to force them to purchase something which direction do you think the price will go? I would venture up, up and away.

How many millions are in my situation? Plus, having the extra insult of having to pay a penalty on something I literally cannot afford.

Plus, it's a fucking fascist rip off.

philipat's picture

And there is stil no data on enrollment by age group, numbers with a pre-existing condition and numbers who previously did not have insurance. My guess is that the younger age groups are low (They will just pay the "Fine"), pre-existing conditions and older age groups are high and very few had no prior coverage (Which was the whole point of Obamacare). If I am correct, expect to see premiums for 2015 go through the roof.

InjectTheVenom's picture


nmewn's picture

It does eem somewhat less than the 40-50 million Haaahvahhhd & Keiser "healthcare anal-cysts" said were clamoring for health insurance coverage doesn't it?

The other 33 million or so must have died on the sidewalks before it could be shoved down their throats to save them ;-)

Government needs you to pay taxes's picture

That's just Preezy's junior varsity lying. 

Philo Beddoe's picture

The Obama Redemption. 

Voter: You feel you've been rehabilitated?
Obama: Oh, yes sir. Absolutely, sir. Yeah, I've learned my lesson. I can honestly say that I'm a changed man. I'm no longer a danger to society. That's the God's honest truth.

847328_3527's picture

Well, at least, “If you want to keep your health insurance, you can keep your health insurance.”


That much we know for sure.

NoDebt's picture

And the average family will save about $2,500 off the cost of that health insurance.  Yep, heard that one before, too.

(Note:  If you are one of the MILLIIONS who became newly eligible for Medicaid because of Obamacare, this statement is actually true.  For the rest of us, not so much.)

Beam Me Up Scotty's picture

Its all so laughable.  Deductibles are getting so high, that unless you have a major medical problem, you pay for everything out of pocket anyway.

lordylord's picture

Basically premiums and deductables are so high, the insurance isn't worth it.  You might as well just save that money and use to to pay for ACTUAL health care.  The problem with that is the fine/tax (whatever you want to call it) you are hit with.  So basically, in order to increase tax revenue, the governemtn came up with a disaster of a health insurance program that noone in their right mind would want to participate in and than taxed you for not participiating. 

847328_3527's picture

Pelosi taken apart by David Gregory on false Obamacare promises



ncdirtdigger's picture

And your doctor, you gets to keep him/her too! Wooot. Wooot!

NoDebt's picture

Who the hell's left that would believe ANYTHING this administration says?

I know, I know.  About 40% of the population.  Damned sad state of affairs.

Well, not to worry, Obama's going to wipe his ass with the Constitution later tonight.  Not on network TV, of course, but on Telemundo.

Do white people ever riot?  I don't think they do.  Well, OK, maybe if they're union members, but as a general rule I don't think white people riot.  Like I said, damned sad state of affairs.

Beam Me Up Scotty's picture

The only reason those 40% dont care, is because they are direct beneficiaries of his lies. 

KnuckleDragger-X's picture

The ends justifies the means as Stalin, Hitler and Mao demonstrated, of course there was that pesky millions of innocents deaths problem.....

Winston Churchill's picture

Coming down the path we are not set on.

The FEMA camp 'showers' are very hot.

TeamDepends's picture

They'll use the guillotines mostly to save energy, being green and all.

Seize Mars's picture

Problem? That's a solution.
...and I quote:
"Death solves problems. No man, no problem."
-Josef Stalin

cnmcdee's picture

If Presidents could be traded like hockey plays we'd not resign Obama and send him to Team Iran. There we could dress him up as the Ayatollah he wants to be.  He has done such a magnificent job of financially destroying America, Iran would be a cake walk for the Thief in Chief..

We would then sign Putin for Team America even if it was expensive. He could clean out the dead wood out of all the levels of government.

If you think America is more free than Russia why are there so many Americans in jail / 1000 versus Russia?




TideFighter's picture

Why do I get the feeling that tonight's 10-minute speech is 9 minutes and 50 seconds longer than what is needed to light this fuse? Coupled with a Ferguson Grand Jury timed release of the cop's acquital and we have a well co-ordinated detonation going off. I would not be surprised to hear a "Closed Gitmo" thrown in there too. In the next 48 hours, we will see the mettle of the Republican party, for if they fail, Choomboy will release the hounds.

doctor10's picture

The entire program was one huge lie to obscure the fact, that at the end of the day, all it is is the biggest tax increase Congress ever passed. That's all it is. the Chief Justice of the US SUpreme Court has stated just that. The individual mandate that you buy insurance by making a monthly "payment" for a"policy" -is of itself a lie.It has been declared a tax-regardless of the ruse required to jam it down American throats.

It is a lie because there is no judiciary or legislative body anywhere in the enire world, much less Washington DC that is about t force a definition of benefits required to be dispensed in return for payment of a tax.  None. Nadda. Your benefits are about to become even more illusory than the numbers created out of whole cloth to sustain this fraud.

Bryan's picture

Tell me if politicians take as gospel truth anything their people tell them is true.  Do we all just throw opinions around as fact now and spew them back as truth to the masses?  Is that how it operates?


"Oh no, my people LIED to me.  At least it's not MY fault."  What a stupid thing to say.  What do you expect when you hire a bunch of toady sycophants to work for you??


Dr. Richard Head's picture

Wives and politicians - they all lie.

Government needs you to pay taxes's picture

Who was the last President more destructive to the American way of life before Obama?

marathonman's picture

George W. Bush?  Am I right?  What did I win?

NotApplicable's picture

"I regret that I have only one upvote to give this comment." -- Me

RabbitOne's picture

Obama sez…”…Why’s everybody always pick’in on me…Ken’ya stop …I’m only a poor Emperor…” 

KnuckleDragger-X's picture

The Sun King is never wrong......

cnmcdee's picture

You mean Ayatollah Obama Supreme Grand Leader?

I find Thief in Chief is shorter and more accurate.

Bell's 2 hearted's picture

numbers, er, statements are not lies ... if revised to reflect truth (or sorta close to it) later ... much later (ie: after market pump or congressional vote / election)

betterlockaway's picture

Ya know...   Imagine if they fudged BLS monthly payroll numbers?  Imagine.  I know they would never do that. Now that would be wierd. 

Quinvarius's picture

Obama can't count.  Numbers mean nothing to him.

A Nanny Moose's picture

+"57 States with one more to go"

Otto Zitte's picture

They expect people to "voluntarily" sign up by the end of the year due to the current threat of massive fines if they don't. ACA = IRS = UN = slavery.
Aim as high as you can.

Abaco's picture

I am going to voluntarily tell them to fuck off.

NOZZLE's picture

They  claimed as late as 2013 there were as many as 48,000,000 uninsured, so less than 25% signed up, behold the affirmative action success.  Diversity is definetly our weakness. 

Bay of Pigs's picture

So how many Americans are still without a healthcare plan? 35-40 million?

Be nice to see an accurate number on that stat.