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This Is Why Rand Paul Is Hillary Clinton's Worst Nightmare
Submitted by Mike Krieger via Liberty Blitzkrieg blog,
As Hillary Clinton starts to ponder the curtains she wants to hang in the Oval Office, there is only one person who can realistically stand in her way: Rand Paul.
Readers of this site will be well aware that I spend very little time focusing on Presidential politics. There are many reasons for this, but more than anything else, I believe there are two key components to genuine cultural change, and none of them have to do with electing a savior. These are:
1) Knowledge - Ignorance is not bliss. Particularly when it comes to the advance or decline of a civilization. Thomas Jefferson said it best:
Enlighten the people generally, and tyranny and oppressions of body and mind will vanish like evil spirits at the dawn of day.
I am trying to do my own little part in that regard here at Liberty Blitzkrieg.
2) Internal Change – It is much easier to complain about others and the world at large than it is to improve oneself. I’m as guilty of this as anyone, but I am cognizant that you can’t change the outside world unless you have changed what’s inside. Gandhi said it best:
We but mirror the world. All the tendencies present in the outer world are to be found in the world of our body. If we could change ourselves, the tendencies in the world would also change. As a man changes his own nature, so does the attitude of the world change towards him. This is the divine mystery supreme. A wonderful thing it is and the source of our happiness. We need not wait to see what others do.
We can elect all the saviors we want to positions of power, but unless we are able to master the above, nothing will permanently evolve in the right direction, and we will be cursed into repeating the same painful cycle over and over again. Crash and burn.
All that said, I don’t think Presidential politics, or politics in general, have to be as horribly corrupt as they are today. I do think it is possible to elect courageous statesmen as opposed to power hungry, money grubbing frontmen and women.
As a consequence of my spending so much time reading about the world around me, I think I have a reasonable grasp of the potential contenders for the 2016 Presidential election from both of the tired and corrupt main parties. For all the chatter about Elizabeth Warren, I think Hillary Clinton is an absolute lock for the Democratic nomination. In fact, just yesterday the Huffington Post published an article detailing how the Democrat establishment had already made its move to cleverly neuter Warren by giving her more power within the Senate. For example:
Throughout Senate history, individual members have often steered away from leadership positions, worried that the horse-trading and consensus-gathering that leadership involves would neuter their power. But the Senate has been evolving in recent years into a much more leadership-driven institution, in which individual senators and even chairmen have less power than they once did compared to caucus leadership. Today, decisions that would have been made in side negotiations, in committee or on the floor are instead made by leadership.
It’s those meetings that Warren will now be a part of. At the same time, she will diminish her ability to maintain that inside position if she criticizes the party from the outside. That dilemma, however, has been with her every step of her career, as she has moved closer to the center of power.
We’ll see how this turns out, but it looks to me that the Democrats are giving her a sense of importance so she “plays ball.” Particularly when it comes to 2016.
On the Republican side, there isn’t a single candidate I would even consider supporting other than Rand Paul. Besides him, everyone else is either a neo-con establishment crony (Jeb Bush, Mitt Romney), or an intellectually challenged up and comer pandering basely to the lowest common denominator.
I am not considering Rand because I think he will “save America” or because his father is Ron Paul. I am considering Rand because I agree with him on enough positions that are important to me. Don’t take it from me though. Read the following article from H. A. Goodman, titled: I’m a Liberal Democrat. I’m Voting for Rand Paul in 2016. Here Is Why. Here are some excerpts:
Rand Paul is my candidate in 2016, even though the Tea Party would consider me Joseph Stalin’s love child. I’m for immigration reform and believe that illegal immigrants benefit this country. I’ve written many articles criticizing Tea Party paranoia. I’m against demagoguery from people like Paul Ryan who unfairly target inner city citizens and I’m for the federal legalization of gay marriage and marijuana. I think Ted Cruz is a buffoon and that we should listen to Stephen Hawking over Senator “Green Eggs and Ham” on climate change. Finally, I’ve also written two novels about the evils of religious fundamentalism and political demagoguery.
On all these possible points of contention with Rand Paul, the reality is that he isn’t Ted Cruz or Lou Dobbs on these matters. Sen. Paul is a self-described “moderate” on immigration, much to the dismay of Tea Party Republicans. Paul’s recent Bill Maher interview shows he’s open to cleaner energy alternatives. Most importantly, Paul doesn’t abide by the right-wing rhetoric blaming poor people for their predicament, or claiming God wants people to do this or that. Congress at the end of the day has the power of the purse, so if President Rand Paul scares you on economic matters, simply remember that only Congress can repeal or alter government programs and decide on budgets.
I’ve never voted for a Republican in my life, but in 2016, Kentucky Senator Rand Paul will be my choice for president. On issues that affect the long-term survival of this country; grandiose concerns like perpetual war that could send generations of Americans fighting and dying in the Middle East, domestic spying that could eventually lead to a police state, and numerous other topics, Rand Paul has shown that he bucks both the Republican and Democratic penchant for succumbing to public opinion, an overreaction to the terror threat, and a gross indifference to an egregious assault on our rights as citizens.
Yes, I’ll have to concede some of my beliefs and roll the dice as to whether or not he’ll flip-flop on issues, but Hillary Clinton and President Obama have changed their views on everything from gay marriage to marijuana legalization and Iraq, so I’m taking an educated gamble with Sen. Paul. Hillary Clinton alone has gone back and forth on enough issues to make the former Secretary of State a human version of Pong, so I’m not too worried about voting for Paul. Below are ten reasons this Democrat is voting for Rand Paul in 2016 and if my liberal membership card is revoked, I’ll live with that; I’m not an ideologue like Sean Hannity, I’m an American.
1. Rand Paul will be more cautious with waging war than Hillary Clinton or Jeb Bush. Sen. Paul has called Obama’s ISIS war illegal and isn’t against defending American interests through military intervention, but stresses the importance of Congress making these decisions. Hillary Clinton, in contrast, thinks we should have armed the Syrian rebel groups several years ago. Try naming even one of the Syrian rebel groups and explaining their differences with ISIS. Furthermore,The Week states that “Clinton’s instincts appear to be far more hawkish than Barack Obama’s.” Imagine a more hawkish Obama and you’ll get the next President Clinton. Also, famed neocon Robert Kagan is one of Clinton’s advisers and states in The New York Times, “I feel comfortable with her on foreign policy.” That should tell you how liberal Clinton will be on matters of perpetual war in the Middle East.
2. The Los Angeles Times has referred to Paul as “one of the foremost critics of the government’s domestic spying program.” In early 2014, Sen. Paul filed a lawsuit against the NSA over domestic spying. Neither Hillary Clinton, Jeb Bush, nor any other candidate in 2016 has made this a top priority in their campaign. Sen. Paul has also voted against PATRIOT Act Extension bills, voted for an amendment that prohibits detention of U.S. citizens without trial (which of course didn’t pass the Senate), and his voting record protects American citizens from politicians paranoid over terrorism. Sen. Paul was vehemently against the NDAA Indefinite Detention Bill that passed in 2013, because, “This bill takes away that right and says that if someone thinks you’re dangerous, we will hold you without a trial. It’s an abomination.”
3. Rand Paul has teamed up with liberal Democratic Sen. Cory Booker to reform the criminal justice system. Their bill would improve the lives of hundreds of thousands of Americans who’ve been adversely affected by non-violent criminal sentences. Hillary Clinton and Jeb Bush don’t care about reforming the criminal justice system, and if they do, it’s on the bottom of their to do lists, far behind cozying up to Wall Street and increasing America’s military presence in the Middle East.
4. POLITICO states Hillary Clinton is “Wall Street Republicans’ dark secret” in 2016. I don’t see Clinton as being any more liberal than Paul on Wall Street or banking, although perhaps she’d be more willing to save failed corporations than the Kentucky Senator. Also, Paul is one of the few Republicans who’s addressed the GOP’s love affair with corporations, stating that, “We cannot be the party of fat cats, rich people, and Wall Street…corporate welfare should once and for all be ended.”
5. Sen. Paul thinks Edward Snowden was treated unfairly as a whistleblower and should have only spent “a few years” in prison. No other candidate in 2016 would dare take that position. The Wall Street Journal criticizedPaul’s position on the Snowden matter, and their criticism actually makes me like Rand Paul in 2016 even more. Hillary Clinton, on the other hand, is “puzzled” why Snowden would want to leave the U.S. and feels he might have helped terrorists with his disclosures.
6. Rand Paul publicized the issue of a possible government drone strike, on American soil, against American citizens. No, I’m not making this up. I don’t want to get blown up eating a burrito at Chipotle because I visited Egypt to see the pyramids and happened to sit in a café frequented by a terrorist. In 2013, Rand Paul asked Eric Holder whether or not American citizens could be targeted by drones on American soil. Jon Stewart has a great segment about this. Eric Holder actually answered that theoretically, yes, drone strikes to kill Americans on U.S. soil could be viewed as legal, depending on the circumstance. If this doesn’t frighten you, then vote for Hillary Clinton or Jeb Bush, since neither one cares about this matter. Issues like drone strikes on American soil, against Americans, is why I don’t believe in conspiracy theories. This sort of thing is being discussed today in plain sight, yet only Rand Paul and a few others have shown outrage over the potential of our government to possibly target its own citizens. If it’s not an ISIL beheading video, nobody seems to care nowadays.
7. Rand Paul could bring back an era in American politics when conservatives and liberals socialized with one another. This alone would solve some of the gridlock in Washington. Paul has worked with 7 leading Democratson a number of issues; working on everything from judicial reform, NSA surveillance, the limits of presidential authority to launch strikes in Iraq, and other issues. Imagine Ted Cruz reaching out to Nancy Pelosi, or Mitch McConnell having lunch with Hillary Clinton. Rand Paul, on the other hand, has worked to emulate this picture.
8. Rand Paul will not gut the economic safety nets of this country in the manner espoused by Paul Ryan and others. He doesn’t want to dismantleSocial Security. I do disagree with his view of the SNAP Program and certain other issues. However, Paul has stated, “I’m for a social safety net, but it should be minimized to helping those who can’t help themselves.” I don’t ever recall Ted Cruz or Paul Ryan making that type of statement and mainstream Republicans do everything in their power to promote the view that safety nets equate to communism or socialism.
9. Neoconservatives hate Rand Paul. They like Hillary Clinton and Jeb Bush a lot more, and The Weekly Standard, National Review, and others have voiced their reservations about a Rand Paul presidency. If neocons disagree with you, then you must be doing something right.
10. Rand Paul could be the answer to our philosophical conundrum as a nation. We’re stuck with a GOP who thinks the globe is one giant Stratego board game with God helping roll the dice, a Democratic Party more focused on defending Obamacare than stopping endless wars or protecting civil liberties, and a populace that cares more about beheading videos than the erosion of rights or the welfare of our warriors. Is Paul the answer? I’m not certain. But compared to Hillary and Jeb Bush, I’ll take the man who stated, “I do blame the Iraq War on the chaos that is in the Middle East.”
What is so interesting to me about the above list, is that although I would strongly disagree with Mr. Goodman on many issues, I concur with his assessment of the importance of the above. NSA spying, aggressive and unconstitutional foreign policy, reforming the criminal justice system and drone strikes. These aren’t side issues to me. They are core issues. He didn’t even mention Audit the Fed, which Rand sponsored in the Senate and would almost surely continue to push for.
These issues cut cross meaningless labels of “liberal,” “conservative,” “progressive” and “libertarian.” These are human issues. Issues of civil liberties and decency (read:#StandwithRand: The Filibuster that United Libertarian and Progressive Activists). They are issues on which Rand Paul is on the right side of history and Hilary Clinton clearly on the wrong. That’s precisely why I think the GOP establishment will do everything in its power to prevent him from getting the nomination. Why you ask?
The reason is the establishment GOP is part of the status quo, and the status quo likes things as they are. Hilary Clinton would be merely a more militant version of Barack Obama with even deeper Wall Street ties (read: Glenn Greenwald on Hilary Clinton: “Soulless, Principle-Free, Power Hungry…”).
. A less hillbilly version of George W. Bush. I strongly believe that the GOP establishment would rather have Hilary Clinton in power than Rand Paul. I dare them to prove me wrong.
Rand recently appeared on Bill Maher’s show. At the end, Bill said:
I think it’s only a good thing for America, when I’m not sure who I’m gonna vote for next time.
Think about that for a minute. Unless he makes some spectacular flip-flops, Rand Paul would get all the libertarian votes, all the GOP votes (they’d vote for Satan to keep Hillary out of office), and a lot more genuine liberal/progressive votes than you might think.
He is the only candidate who can beat Hilary. That’s why Rand Paul is Hillary Clinton’s worst nightmare.
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Exactly.
Neither is neo con or you have a bad definition.
The main thing Rand Paul has going for him is that he is genuine - he will say the same things to a crowd of Tea Party members, and then again to a CNN interview, and then again around the dinner table at his house. Nearly every other politican (including Hillary) will change their message based on polls, or on big congributions, or to their specific audience at the time they are speaking.
This is the same guy who voted to block anti-spying legislation because he's against spying?
Seems legit...
Nope - must be a different guy. Rand voted against the bill because it was too weak and did NOT weaken the NSA. Read the bill!
Actions > Words
Cop-out.
Because we all know you can't write moar legislation later. Give me a fucking break.
"curtains she wants to hang"
i, uhh, guess the taxpayer need not worry about the china ...
1. he was on record as would have voted against the iraq war (hillary voted for it)
2. he is a hard-$, anti-fed guy (hillary supported bernanke, supports yellen)
3. obamacare is hillarycare (rand voted against)
4. rand is ALOT closer to occupy wall street than hillary - elizabeth warren i believe is hillary's only competition but im not sure she throws her hat in because she KNOWS she would have to go ALL-IN and that would bloody hillary up for the actual prez race - she may tho because 1st senate banking committee meeting she was all lovey-dovey with yellen; grilled her like a tomato at the second - cud be setting herself up to be the anti-anything-$$$ candidate and that would not be good for hillary IMO
before i started posting on this site, i considered myself a "fiscal hawk, social dove" - politically, i can't stand either party; i live in jersey, voted for christie and i feel as tho ive been duped. he is NOT a conservative yet he quotes reagan at nausium. we have been downgraded by all 3 credit rating agencies as a result of our fiscal deficits/debt being WORSE than when he came in after corzine. in addition, he just took out a $500 million+ loan to try to buy the teachers off in-front of his anticipated presidential run. christie said he'd cut property taxes (turned out to be a lie, now, we can't even write them off on our taxes) - he hired a democratic clown to be in-charge of some "infrastructure" crap and we're being told today that "revenue increases for instructure/road spending must push on."
after what ive dealt with the last few years under just the governor here alone (then you throw in the massive expansion at the federal level under bush + obama), its pretty safe to say that ive gravitated towards the libertarian camp. i still have a little tea party in me because i have friends/family in the military (i was for afghanistan since i lost my cuz on 9-11 and wanted usama found, but against iraq because i didn't care that saddam had gas - we sold it to him & watched him use it on the kurds & iranians - i always asked the question "what happens when he's gone? they need a brutal dictator in-charge because the only thing they fear is fear).
all that being said, id be proud to vote for rand because with a republican senate & house, i truely believe he'd be able to stay out of as many military involvments as possible, yet knowing we do have to defend ourselves because there are people who want us dead. focus on them and not just shoot first, ask questions later (JMO, i know that may piss people here off). more importantly, i think rand may be 1 of the only people i trust to stave-off financial armedgeddon that i believe we are well on our way towards. scott walker is 1 of the only others (since i like the fact he took over a $2 billion hole and got them $500 million in the black inside 2-3 years - only other guy i respect the production on). end of the day, rand is my #1 (although i realize he's not his father) - think he'd make a fantastic prez.
"i think rand may be 1 of the only people i trust to stave-off financial armedgeddon"
It's coming no matter what it's just who will be in control when it happens.
@JOEGO - u very well may be right man. id always like to believe we have a better path that can be paved. while at the end of the day i still think they all suck & all have an agenda, i do think rand is the best of all choices that will be available. i still respect people who don't vote; actually more so than myself because many on this site who i see don't vote, i truely understand why - just check the last 6 years V 8 years; whats changed between the prez's who couldn't be more different? absolutely nothing. end of the day, i wake up every day & work my ass off and just concern myself with whats under my control. i always view the president of the U.S. as the CEO of the U.S. and rand (like the guy who owns my firm) is very hands-off and just trusts the people under him to get the job done. we perform, everyones happy. maybe i live in fantasy world, who knows. id just like to see our kids & grandkids have a better landscape than what i see taking shape.
Warren is a big fan of the Ex-Im Bank. She's all for crony deals for large corporations, just those that aren't as visible since her whole act is steal from the rich, they didn't build that, balogna.
Would love to see a Paul-Warren ticket, just to watch all the heads explode.
Warren (aka Fakahontas) on the ticket? Why? Is it time for a sorta Indian?
http://dailycaller.com/2014/04/16/elizabeth-warren-whines-about-coverage...
She could settle all this by showing us the size of her patch. Indians have very little body hair.
Thanks I didnt need my lunch.
very funny
With every passing day Rand moves himself closer to the establishment neocons. If he continues his increasing rate of flip-flops from the current pace, by the time 2016 comes around he'll be known as the Republican John Kerry.
The only hope is that he's doing this because he has to and would revert once he got to the Oval Office. But I'm not holdingmy breath.
He'll have more flexibility once he's elected.
I agree I'm voting for Rand Paul and I may even campain for him. The others will end life on this planet as we know it.
Now don't get overexcited and carried away here.
Krieger might want to view his bra size.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ehFftLUKuY
A little more detail in this one.
http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=798
Spoken like a true authoritarian Progressive, Krieger. Spoken like a true authoritarian Progressive:
On the Republican side, there isn’t a single candidate I would even consider supporting other than Rand Paul. Besides him, everyone else is either a neo-con establishment crony (Jeb Bush, Mitt Romney), or an intellectually challenged up and comer pandering basely to the lowest common denominator.
Krieger fucking absolutely loathes conservatism. There's a name for people like that: Authoritarian Progressives.
Krieger; Grubering long before Grubering became fashionable.
Please don't forget that it was Jeb Bush who started all this No Child Left Behind-type national school testing, which stops teachers from teaching and makes them simply make their students memorize whatever TPTB say they need to memorize. I think that's the epitome of big-government. Jeb Bush attended a prestigious private high-school, not a public high school.
If either of these two become Prez of the USSA, you will be paying taxes like Canada or Sweden, have guaranteed income like Switzerland is contemplating, and essentially be slaves to the 1% who will choose to live elsewhere where they can enjoy less restrictions and taxes than they have decided the general populace of USSA should be shackled with.
Rand Paul is scum
Hillary Clinton is scum
Which is scummier, Hillary or Paul? Is it worth the visit to the voting line to hopefully slow the decline a little by denying Shitlery a seat in the office. Paul probably is controlled opposition but at least there is a probably in there, with Shitlery there is no doubt you will get something even worse than Obola, if thats possible. There is enough evil probability spread between the two to maybe consider voting.
They are both agents of a foreign power. They both took the deal and thats all there is to it. So did "Bill Maher". Scum is scum.
“We must keep the people busy with political antagonisms. We’ll therefore speed up the question of reform (of tariffs within) the Democratic Party; and we’ll put the spotlight on the question of protection for the Republican Party. By dividing the electorate this way, we’ll be able to have them spend their energies at struggling amongst themselves of questions that, for us, have no importance whatsoever.” United States Bankers magazine, 1892 as quoted in the Michael Journal, Jan-Feb 2003).
So, the answer would be: forget the political tag and vote for the best candidate for the US people and the world peace.
Monica Lewensky''s ex-boyfriend's wife is running for President?
Incorrect.
GOP donors pledge to 'take down' Rand Paul if he comes close to winning nomination Is Sheldon Adelson Turning Even Rand Paul Anti-Isolationist?Rand Paul had his obligatory photo op at the ruins of a Roman fort in Jerusalem with the beanie on, but he isn't sufficiently in thrall to Likud and Shas for the Adelsons and Sabans and AIPACs and the rest of the Israeli 5th column.
Hillary is already bought and paid for by AIPAC and CFR and will let Jerusalem determine where to send America's blood and treasure.
The right wing Jewish/Zionist lobby {which by no means means all or even most Jewish folks, which should be obvious, and as to votes per se is mainly "Christian" Zionists who don't read the New Testament and worship Ersatz Israel instead of Christ} is the biggest threat to the United States.
Israel is far, far more dangerous to US interests than Russia or Iran, which are in fact natural allies. Israel is a costly parasite, bent on further expansion and warmongering. Period.
Israel's influence on US politics, via widly disproportionate Jewish and Zionist influence, is literally the biggest danger we face.
The nuke issue is a ruse, Israel paints itself as sacred victim and bombing children in "defense" of itself, but Iran is not about nukes but about their support for Hezbollah and Iraq and their potential economic rivalry - such as gas to Europe via a Iran-Iraq-Syria pipeline.
It's all about the Oded Yinon plan - PNAC was simply recycling an old Zionist plan going back decades.
Netanyahu “Iraq crisis made in Israel” as part of Israel's ...
Netanyahu's 'clean break' document, update of oded yinon ...I always have a junker.
Seldom do they come out and present anything like a coherent argument. They just piss and moan that not everyone thinks Israel or its 5th column is good for the United States.
They are Israel Firsters.
Fuck you.
Really.
You got junked because many people believe Israel is beyond criticism. With that mindset reasons are deemed superfluous.
True.
It's why the Scoffield Bible was backed by Jewish investors.
And its why they named Rothschildistan "Israel" instead of "Judea" - which would at least have been less inaccurate.
Nobody, or relative few, don't like Israel because they're "Jewish" - its how the government behaves and the racism and colonialism and violence that is forever justified by claims about sacred/unique Jewish suffering giving the a license to commit genocide.
Israel is actually wiping a nation off the map, has hundreds of nukes, gets more US foreign aid than all of sub-saharan africa, and billions in new weapons for free - it can spy on the US, lie us into wars with sayanim embedded in the CIA and Pentagon - and still, Israel Firsters can never free their mind enough to even approach rational thought.
It is black magick.
And it is fading....
Rothschildistan?
Now you've done it.
H. A. Goodman is a fucking idiot. False assertion and dichotomy, each one a bigger lie than the next.
We but mirror the world. All the tendencies present in the outer world are to be found in the world of our body.
“Gandhi wrote to Kallenbach about ‘how completely you have taken possession of my body. This is slavery with a vengeance.’”http://tabletmag.com/scroll/63017/gandhi’s-jewish-lover
So, are you suggesting that one act of indiscretion is sufficient to completely dismiss a person's opinions no matter how correct? What was the point of your post?
Our problems cannot be solved politically, they are spiritual and moral. We have abandoned our base, this started in the 1920s.
Repent and reconcile our relationship with God or face tyranny.
3 Psalm 146:3
Do not put your trust in princes,
in human beings, who cannot save.
4 When their spirit departs, they return to the ground;
on that very day their plans come to nothing.
sschu
It's always a threat with these people. Can't a single day go by without some self righteous god-fondler telling me how I'm going to burn, or die, or die on fire or something because their invisible friend loves us all? Did I accidentally fall through a wormhole into some Judean desert shithole (aka 'the promised land') circa 200BC?
You can choose whatever.
But,the communists, the most Godless people on earth in recent history, enslaved billions (and do so as we write). If you think that your freedom can be assured by mankind, history has a a poor track record on this issue.
Make your choice my friend, but choose wisely.
sschu
So it's ok if you limit yourself to dropping nukes and only enslaving blacks? He really does work in mysterious ways!
a book, written by ignorant assholes, full of violence and hate and myth.
And that's your go to?
Fathead.
Pantsuit Grandma Hillary(!) is everyone else's worst nightmare. Does that make it even?
I'm not as optimisic as you about Rand's chances. You have a contradiction within this article in which you first say, "Neocons would rather have Hillary as President than Paul," but then you say GOP would elect Satan to keep Hillary out of office. If the latter is correct, then Rand will lose a large part of his base. Libertarians aren't all that excited about him, in general, so they won't make up for it. His only hope will be to win independents and hope that he sways a lot of liberals. Otherwise, it'd take a 2014 style lack of showing by Democrats to allow him to win in 2016.
Gruber was right about American voters being stupid. Hillary's popularity despite her terrible background and lack of achievements is evidence of that. A lot of people are going to show up so they can say they voted for the first woman President. Most people are awake much beyond that point.
Zionist bought-and-paid-for-shill Hitlery Clinton meet Zionist bought-and-paid-for-shill Rand Paul
To the American eloctorate stupid enough to vote for either of them?...
"Mazel Tov"!
"To the American eloctorate stupid enough to vote for either of them?..."
Well, they were stupid enough to elect a radical hard core Marxist who grew up as a Muslim.
Allah Akbar!
Muslims in Indonesia aren't quite the same thing as Muslims in Saudi Arabia, for one thing, for another, like all reasonably intelligent people, Obama is an atheist or agnostic.
Last I checked, he has appointed about 20 Jews for every Muslim he's appointed, incuding to the Fed, Treasury [where Jews are the secretary, deputy, and all 3 under secs], Commerce, national Economic council, and more than a couple to diplomatic posts.
So your analysis is shit.
Good catch on his Jewish symp/obligations.
C'mon, who appointed whom.
"Well, they were stupid enough to elect a radical hard core Marxist who grew up as a Muslim."...
An American politician who took the Zionist blood oath by swearing behind closed doors that he would do the opposite of everything he promised in his first campaign by systematically annihilating Muslims and "Christians" in Afghanistan Iraq, Libya and Syria (and other places) on behalf of his benefactors in order to secure the Democratic nomination for President of the United States!
We are God's chosen people!
Fixed it!!!
I think the NWO wants Susan Rice for President.
Bengazhi proved she will say anything she is told to say, even if it absolutely makes no sense.
re:rice
Politics aside, at least she is easy on the eyes
John Young of Cryptome had a nice picture spread on Nov.13th called Rice Bodice Eyeball
Rand was on Fox News last night and when confronted with what he planned to do about Obola's Executive Action he waffled and said history will not be kind looking back on Obola's actions. In summary, Rand is another pussy who will be doing nada to stop it except claim he's upset. So, he can f himself.
"What do I plan to do? Why I'm going to lead a mob up to the White House, jump over the fence, storm the Oval Office and knee Obama in the groin.
That's what I'm going to do."
Are you happy now, BiteMeBO?
If Rand Paul and Hitlary Cliton are the answers, you be asking the wrong questions.
Eh?
Rand Paul is an answer to some of the problems we are having like endless wars on everything and the police state. What sort of questions are you asking your politicians over across the pond Eh? What ever you are asking it looks like they are not listening to well.
Voting has never worked, and the deep hole we're in now is its result, but ya know what? By golly, we'll get 'em next time. Next time we're sure to elect the RIGHT big boss man daddy.
Sheeeeeeeeiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiitt:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czKKdiZEfCY
No Goy will be allowed to that post if he doesn't toe the Wolfowitz line.
Isn't that the same Rand Paul that didn't endorse his father for president, but endorsed the other corporate whore Romney last election cycle?
This theater is boring and downright stupid. People who still believe there are two parties aren't even worth engaging in debate anymore.
Welcome to where I was 7 years ago.
+1
There really ARE two "parties". You just don't know their names.
As a matter of fact they don't have names that are recognized by the masses.
But people who think about "social economy" would recognize them as "tribalist forager warriors" and "farmer/herder/trader capitalists".
Amen.
Round up the Usual Suspects for the American Dream.
Fingers crossed the USSA will be at Civil War before these tried and tested loser Politicians are voted in.
For those bashing Rand, who would you have instead? Let me guess........I'm not voting for anyone. OK - then you would rather be ruled by a military dictator and have even fewer rights than you do now. Not voting IS NOT AN OPTION unless you want to sit at home in your drawers posting on ZH and complaining about those in charge.
Truth is no one agrees with someone on 100% of the issues. Too many here point out one or two things they don't like about Rand which in their mind eliminates him from consideration. Ok tough guys - who would you vote for?
The one issue is liberty, and guess what? It's not up for vote. All other 'issues' are alarmist grabs for power. There is no emergency that trumps unalienable rights. Until you know that in your bones, continue to be a tool.
+100 Best post onthe board!
"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."
That is what voting R or D is: insanity.
I'm voting for Jesus Christ. He's coming back soon to straighten out this whole world. And He's the only one who can do it right: "Now you have every grace and blessing; every spiritual gift and power for doing His will are yours during this time of waiting for the return of our Lord Jesus Christ. And He guarantees right up to the end that you will be counted free from all sin and guilt on that day when He returns." - 1 Corinthians 1:7-8
"Not voting IS NOT AN OPTION".
Yes, it fucking well is. Do you take personal responsibility for the thousands of innocents killed every year by the instruments of state? Or do you go to bed and sleep soundly at night blissfully ignorant of the murder commited by people you refer to as 'my representative'?
I have every right to complain about the people in charge - it's not my doing, none of it.
If you are looking for the perfect solution there isn't one coming. The current giant cauldron of squid manure took 200 years to create and anyone thrown into that political cesspool has some of it on them, there are no clean candidates on the horizon. So the question is; "Given the current presidential choices who do you want running the police state when it all caves in?"
Well, I think you have figured it out. What "populist nihilists" want is to sit in their parent's basements and not be blamed for any bad idea . . . or good idea.
From a Rush Limbaugh broadcast about a week ago:
"We have to be really careful folks, because now we have Ron Paul types infiltrating the Tea Party..."
HA HA HA HA HA :-)
Limpbaugh : "We have to be really careful folks, because now we have Ron Paul types infiltrating the Tea Party..."
That just puts Rand Paul one step closer to getting my vote.
Here is a book for you and Rush;
http://www.amazon.com/Ron-Paul-Father-Tea-Party/dp/B00AKQC1PQ
El Rushbo needs to remember who the godfather of the Tea Party is.
Specifically the 2007-2008 version of the Tea Party.
Puzzling.
Why does Rush have a gripe with either?
Rush is certainly no friend of the RINO-crony-capitalist-Rockefeller Republican establishment.
Both conservative and mainstream Republicans hate libertarians' guts due to their stands on things like drug legalization and foreign military adventures. Rand can cast himself as libertarian lite all he wants, but he's got no prayer.
My guess is, that it'll be Romney/McCain (that's right, McCain) versus Clinton/Warren, and that Clinton will win. Then, after an ebola pandemic breaks out during the winter of 2017, Clinton will declare martial law and Homeland Security will begin herding tens of thousands of the infected into quarantine at hundreds of Healthcare Villages (a.k.a. FEMA camps) across the country. Then, the beginning of a nationwide insurrection will be marked by the assasination of the president by an EID while on her way to a photo op at a model camp.
Tis true. Ron Paul's non-interventionist military, i.e. constitutional, was a deal breaker for many many friends and acquaintances that would have otherwise voted for him. Not that it would have mattered since 80% of them went for Romney, so it would have just taken votes away from him.
But, Rand seems a little more.......zionist so I dunno, could pull in a lot votes.
Fauxcohantas as VP.........nah, she's only in it to win it if she runs. She is an annoying fuck though. So is she making the case against Obam's latest Wall Street owned AG?
Romney is OOOOOOO-VER!
Obamacare is going to be pitched over the side, and Romney and Romney-care are going over the side with it.
McCain is OOOOOOO-VER!
Been there. Done that. He lost. There is NO new-improved-reinvented McCain. He barely got re-elected in Arizona. He's just a cranky old white guy.
Hillary is S-O-O-O-O-O OOOOOOO-VER.
George Soros dumped her in 2008 for the black guy form Harvard who could read teleprompters and didn't scare white liberals.
Back in the day, Hillary tried to drum up support for Hillary-care with a bus caravan from Washington state to D.C. There were protests at every stop. The buses eventually had to sneak into town to avoid protesters. The caravan disappeeared somewhere west of the Mississippi. Too late to get the band back together.
Elizabeth Pocahontas Warren? Well, maybe.
The moonbats LOVE her! Obamba loves her! The Hillary femi-nazis will probably support her when Hillary's political mummy is stuffed and put on display in the Smithsonian.
But, I don't think we yet know the extent of Democrat ego-driven ambition! When Hillary starts sinking in the quicksand, there will be a rush among the Democrat political class -- not to save her -- but to get the hell away and save their own political skins.
Hillary will probabaly have some tragic, career ending soap-opera disease -- Parkinsons, leprosy, mulltiple dystrophy -- to dramatically exit the political stage and pass the Democrat political baton to a huge, out of control, pack of vicious Democrat hyenas. Keep your hands and fingers away from the cage bars, boys and girls!
Democratic Party self destruction:
Woodrow Wilson signing the Federal Reserve Act, creating the Fed, and beginning the destruction of the middle class.
Lyndon Johnson creating Medicaid and many other welfare programs.
Jimmy Carter creating the USA Department of Education.
Bill Clinton signing off on the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act, repealing the 1933 Banking Act (Glass-Steagall Act), and hastening the destruction of the middle class.
Gun control.
Obamacare.
Immigration reform.
Did I leave anything out? (probably, lots)
Rand Paul always looks like he's recovering from a hangover. Hillary is a hangover.
someone will shoot her first?
I wasn't aware Stephen Hawking is also in the camp of "Climate Change" shills.
It might be helpful if Mike Krieger would omit that part of H. A. Goodman's opinion.
"Enlighten the people generally, and tyranny and oppressions of body and mind will vanish like evil spirits at the dawn of day."
Germany was one of the most literate, cultured, and sophisticated societies in the world in 1933. That didn't stop Der Fuhrer.
"Enlighten the people generally, and tyranny and oppressions of body and mind will vanish like evil spirits at the dawn of day."
Germany was one of the most literate, cultured, and sophisticated societies in the world in 1933. That didn't stop Der Fuhrer.
Yes, the same Fuhrer who ended the recession bringing about an economic miracle in the process. War was declared on Germany for invading Poland to recover traditional German lands. Almost immediately Poland was invaded by the USSR as well but, hey presto, they became allies of the Allies. Amazing, isn't t?
Even some elementary research will reveal that the Hitler and WW 2 Narrative that we've been brainwashed with all our lives is a travesty.
Americns as a whole are probably not as smart as those Germans. That's why the US fell for Leisure Suit Barry, a cheap imitation.
Jefferson was mistaken. He let his optimism blind his reason.
The people cannot be enlightened.
See: all history ever.
It would be a mistake for libertarians to think we can win by educating the masses. There are people out there who can be educated, but they do not come anywhere close to a majority of the electorate. We need voters to support our positions without understanding them. If you think that's an impossible task, think again: our enemies do it every election.
tl;dr the name of the game is marketing, not education.
Incidentally, the classical liberals' failure to grasp this is the reason that they were eclipsed by the socialists as the franchise expanded. The socialists made slogans designed for mass consumption, the liberals made intellectual arguments designed to persuade members of a class that was no longer in power.
FYI. Jefferson made his remarks back when U.S. Senators were appointed by state legislatures and, thus, represented state governments.
The Seventeenth Amendment in 1913 changed the system to direct popular election of Senators in the states.
The Seventeenth Amendment made the U.S. much more of a "direct democracy".
Definition of "democracy": two foxes and a sheep voting on what's for lunch.
Who ever gets elected to the Presidency will get shown the Zapruder film on his or her first day in the Whitehouse and then will get asked, "Any Questions.....?"
No, they are shown the NEW, glossy pix of the last guy.
See, if we get pissed, the guards stand down. anyone can just run inside and chop off your head!
("Urk")
Yeah, so be smart. Just think about George and the "cherry tree."
The best thing about having Rand Paul in the White House, is that Ron Paul will get to sleep in the Lincoln Bedroom!
Nobody but ZHers will vote for a plagiarizer named after Ayn Rand.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8m8cQI4DgM
you are a dumb fuck...,.
Says the guy voting for TPTB candidate Rand Paul.
Just keep watching what Rand does, not what he says. Whoever Cruz's articulation coach is needs to back it off a notch or 2, that sheet aint workin for me.
If Rand Paul is allowed to be president (notice I didn't say wins the election) then it's because he's compromised everything and TPTB have gotten to him. Give up, dudes. One candidate, two faces. This country has been toast since 9/11 and ain't coming back until we get the crash, if ever.
I guess you are part of the problem.
His opinion is just as valid as any other of us aholios here.
Good news, devo!
You won't be blamed for anything. Give yourself a hug for being so smart, and never falling for a bad idea . . . or a good idea for that matter.
What we have is choices. That is, free men get to make choices. Slaves do not get to make choices. There is always the lesser of two evils. Free men get to choose, and do choose, what they think is the lesser of two evils. One way they choose is voting. I ALWAYS vote. It costs me nothing, and I know that certain groups always vote religiously. I bet a lot of people in Ferguson don't bother to vote, and that is why they have a police force that seems to hold them in contempt. Contempt is what a man has for an undisciplined and feeble opponent.
Free men are free to mind their own business, and be left alone.
Starving rats in cages are given choices between food with electric shock, and water with blunt trauma.
Yes, we're not free men, not by a long shot.
The question is, what are you going to do about it?
Saying the world is unjust does not make it any less so.
So, you choose evil. Got it.
Rand does well in Iowa, he won't survive New Hampshire. Assasinated.
...by a Vince Foster Zombie.
I seriously doubt that the RINOs will allow Sen. Paul the nominatin. He would be a great candidate and would get my vote. The others can go to hell.
Think back to Italy. Post WW2.
The communists had a lot of support after the fascist defeat- and I can see how the Italians would feel.
But, with Gladio, the Tide was turned, and commie govt was denied.
Look at the US today.
GLADIO is at work.
RP has to know the sophistication of what he is up against.
This calls for a finesse game...
Well, this is what the Republican primaries will sort out.
I think it will be crony-capitalist-RINO-establishment-Rockefeller Republicans versus free-market-capitalist-libertarian-Tea-Party-Goldwater-Reagan Republicans.
No politician can take stands stronger than his support base allows him to. If a politician's supporters work very hard, he can take strong stands. If his supporters sit on their big lazy butts (speaking of myself, not of anybody else) and don't get out and work, then the politician is forced to turn to the established rich people who can pay for the nasty attack ads. Also, this happens, issue by issue. If, for example, a politician wants to vote against Immigration "Reform", he CAN do so if his supporters work hard and loudly against it. If they stay silent, then, with the MSM droning endlessly for "Reform", he pretty much HAS TO go with the flow, or the same MSM will call him a "hater" in his next election, instead of a "protector of American workers". And, of course, the waiting list of "massive legislative-enabled thefts of the day" is never-ending, with the lobbyists writing new theft laws every day and wining-and-dining the staff members of every legislator and administrative staffer at "tonight's REALLY BIG D.C. party" every night.
Turned out the oligarchs were less than happy with their choice of Putin...the worm can turn
My thoughts also on RaP.
"Read the following article from H. A. Goodman"
This type of mind-game is definitively explained here:
The KEY to understanding the otherwise inexplicable
and here:
Preface to the First Paperback Edition
Thanks to a half-Chinese libertarian Virginia re-elected to the US Senate, an open-borders Demonrat who is also anti-2nd Amendment and all for Affirmative Action and all that good stuff.
Rand...
Rand Paul — Another Jack Kemp Zombie?
Rand Paul — Another Jack Kemp Zombie?
Rand Paul Fakes Left, Jukes Right in Guatemala
Rand Paul’s Pandering On Ferguson Foolish—And Unlibertarian
Just a bunch of propaganda from the Neocon republicans fearful that Rand could bump them off in the primary.
Gibberish, and citing some lunatic.
Rand is kind of unknown, one day he looks and sounds intelligent, the next day he's a buffoon. I'd much rather have Cruz, and Rand is just about on a par with Rubio, maybe a little above Ryan. The problem is none of them is a champion or warrior, nor genius nor leader. Scott Walker, now, hmm, ...
ps - while many people (idiots) would like Hildabeast to run, I don't think she wants to, and maybe she's just not up to it physically, and might not even win her primaries against opposition - this unknown fool beat her last time, the people don't like her. I give the odds of her being the nominee at about 40%, that's 3:2 against, or 2:1 with some bookie vigorish.
You need to look at the issues, and focus less on who's going to most closely resemble the protagonist in your favorite action films.
For example, neither Rand nor Rubio is against amnesty, in fact they are both for it.
It'd getting real hard to tell when sarcasm is intended....
re As Hillary Clinton starts to ponder the curtains she wants to hang in the Oval Office...
She could always return the Oval Office curtains she purloined - along with everything else in the WH that wasn't nailed down ("We thought they were gifts...") - during her last days as consort to Slick Willy I
Mike Krieger via Liberty Blitzkrieg blog is now on my blocked website list. You need some serious therapy.
Mike Krieger via Liberty Blitzkrieg blog is now on my blocked website list. You need some serious therapy.
ALL politicians are corrupt and paid for......don't vote
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2014/08/27/former-iowa-state-senator-pleads-guilty-in-ron-paul-endorsement-for-pay-scheme/
http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2014/10/06/revenge-rand-paul
> defend yourself even if the odds of success are low
> refuse to participate in the injustice
If a bear attacks you in the woods, you should...
Rand Paul is not Ron Paul. The main difference between Rand Paul and Hillary is that Rand Paul isn't ugly. Even so, I wouldn't vote for either of them.
Rand Paul won't get any closer to the oval office than his dad did. Why? because the money doesn't want him there for the very same reason that it didn't want his dad there.
He'll get closer because of his Christian Zionist stuff. The Lobby owns him and thus he will go as far as they want him to.
Obama didn't have a rats ass chance either and he beat Hitlery.
Rand Paul is no different than Hillary.
You are part of the problem.
Reading the criticisms of Rand, I see that there are many people here just itching to yank Christ off the cross and steal his nails for their own paws. You bunch of whiny useless martyr-poseurs. Yea, I'm sure your armed revolution against the government is going to get started any day now. Yea, I'm sure your strategy of doing nothing and bitching on internet forums will cause the state to crumble by Christmas. You think you're being uncompromising and tough and avant garde by refusing to support someone like Rand, who has had to moderate his position to have a chance, but in reality you're bunch of useless fucking twats with absolutely nothing to offer. Fuck you a thousand times, you deserve what you get.
lol!
"Yea, I'm sure your strategy of doing nothing and bitching on internet forum... "
And your different, how?
There's nothing wrong with bitching on an internet forum.
Never said there was.
The problem is if that's your whole strategy for political change.
The number one reason for voting for Rand Paul is that he is a credible free market capitalist.
"Democrat" reasons 1 through 10, are interesting but not deal makers.
I gather that the majority of commenters on this topic are going to sit home on election day and hug themselves for being clever and original nihilist populists.
What course of action would be appropriate in your view for a person that throws away entire system? I'm not talking about just being fed up with voing evils lesser by small margin, but almost outright secesion.
They have army, police and courts - if you'd revolt you'd be put down. To take away your consent, but avoid getting dragged to jail not voting is a sensible action. Don't vote and minimize your input into the system while maximizing it's losses. (the latter is easier said than done, the same people that want revolution or deep reform would just personally feel bad as welfare queens ... though there's a way to get this done to some degree) For radicals it's not about voting out current fools for a bit better fools, it's about a serious reset or ancap.
When people here are willing to lay their life down to stand up against gov't in justice then we are going somewhere.
But don't worry, that won't happen here... We just go on the internet and rant.
In other news, Joe Biden arrives in Kiev. I expect bucketloads of crap will be poured on high spinning fans soon.
The hildabeast might be pondering the curtains but the whitehouse doctor is dreading the oyster schucking mitts he will have to wear for her pelvic exams.
This article is helpful in confirming Rand is yet another DC stooge.
No -I think he's honest -and politically shrewd. Although it diifers from hios father -to some extent, you must look at his actions -what he does and not what he says. He may even vote on the wrong side for political reasons in totally meanigless votes -like the 448 to 2 votes supporting Israel. He is a politician (hopefully in the good sense) -unlike his father - who was true to his convictions 99% of the time-realizing full well that in the current climate of ignorant sheeple -that was only good for 10% of the total vote. Rand is just as honest and pure -he will play politics in a totally different style than his Father - that is my assessment. I hope I am right.
Rand is a libertarian 1st and foremost.
Libertarians are the first globalists (before the word was coined). They have no problem with off shoring, onshoring and despise borders. To them there is no such thing as being a illegal immigrant.
Look at the list Kreiger presents... you see anything mentioning job producing production returning home? Nope, just a popularity contest.
He was willing to sacrifice his libertarian stance when he thought he had a shot at VP under Romney, so sacrificing americans shouldn't be a problem.
I have no dog in the fight as I don't vote in the scam many call elections but out of 400 million (including illegals) is Hillary, Rand and Jeb the best we can produce?
Is there no one anymore that is concerned about the nation? Say what you want about President Putin of Russia but he always has the interest of Russia among his priorities.
Is there an american Putin that can salvage us like he has Russia? All we get are the global-Corpgov Technocrat Oligarch Scum that screw us in every way imaginable.
ya mebbe Mr. Paul don' undastand d'non-vilent ofendahs in da joint was mostly plea bargoned down fum mo' betta crimeses...
huh?
hillbillary gotsta get by hiawatha foist...