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Grand Jury Decision Unlikely This Weekend As Private Security Move "Guns & Gold" Out Of Ferguson

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Sporadic confrontations and violence between protesters and police continued to occur overnight in Ferguson as multiple news agencies report grand jury considering whether to indict the Ferguson police officer who shot and killed teenager Michael Brown is unlikely to meet and render a decision this weekend. The fear, as we have previously noted, is a major uprising as one sign protested, "if the killer cop walks, AmeriKKKa Halts," and as Fox reports, Brown family attorney is managing expectations, "99% of the time the police officer is not held accountable for killing a young black boy," Crump said. "The police officer gets all the consideration." There is, however, another potential reason for delaying the decision's reporting, as VICE reports, business owners in the St. Louis, Missouri area have hired private military contractors to transport guns and gold, fearing their shops will be targeted by looters if a grand jury does not indict.

 

As Fox reports, a grand jury decision this weekend is unlikely,

The grand jury considering whether to indict the Ferguson police officer who shot and killed teenager Michael Brown is unlikely to meet and render a decision this weekend, sources told Fox News on Saturday.

 

Those same sources say it is likely the grand jury will wait until Monday to reconvene.

 

The 12-member grand jury has been considering whether charges are warranted against Officer Darren Wilson, who shot and killed the 18-year-old Brown on Aug. 9 during a confrontation on a street in Ferguson. Wilson is white and Brown, who was unarmed, is black.

 

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On Saturday, the authorities set up barricades around the Buzz Westfall Justice Center in Clayton, which is where the grand jury has been meeting.

 

Barricades also went up in the shopping center parking lot on West Florissant Avenue in Ferguson, which was where police set up a makeshift command center in the immediate aftermath of Brown's death.

 

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"I just hope it stays peaceful," Freeman said of protests that will follow the grand jury decision. "We all have human emotions, bit there's a way to do things, and violence, you can't get peace from violence."

 

Crump, the Brown family attorney, seemed doubtful that Wilson would be charged, saying the grand jury process is weighted against those shot by police officers.

 

"Ninety-nine percent of the time the police officer is not held accountable for killing a young black boy," Crump said. "The police officer gets all the consideration."

And as VICE reports, business owners are growing increasingly anxious of the consequences...

Business owners in the St. Louis, Missouri area have hired private military contractors to transport guns and gold, fearing their shops will be targeted by looters if a grand jury does not indict Darren Wilson, the police officer who shot and killed Michael Brown in the St. Louis County suburb of Ferguson.

 

"There's a lot of people that brought in a lot of money to have people secure their assets," said Stephen King, owner of Metro Shooting Supplies gun shop, a 15-minute drive from Ferguson. "Some of those people spent $10 an hour on security guards and some people have $1,000 a day private contractors."

 

King confirmed that gun shops in the area are hiring private military contractors to escort the transport of their guns to secure locations. A private military contractor who spoke to VICE News on condition of anonymity said that more than 300 private military contractors, or PMCs, have been contracted for work in direct response to Ferguson security concerns.

 

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"We've got our hands in a bunch things" related to security in the Ferguson area, said Ogden, a former Navy SEAL who was featured on the National Geographic reality program, Survival Alaska.

 

"If you are a business owner and you are in the business of selling firearms and you're in an area where shops have been looted, burned down, property stolen, you now have the responsibility to society to ensure to do everything possible to make sure that those firearms do not get into the hands of the wrong people."

 

"We got everything out last week, we put it back on Monday," said Duke, who had heard the grand jury decision would be announced on a Sunday. "This weekend it's going out again. A lot of it has already been moved." Moving his product back and forth comes at quite a cost, though exactly how much he wouldn't say.

 

He noted that the dollar value of the product being moved to secure offsite locations is in the millions.

 

"I'm not like a pawn shop, I don't buy TVs," he said. "I have precious metals. We have a law here that whatever you buy you have to hold for five days. So all those stores had those five days worth of business there. I'm a very large buyer so that's a large amount of money."

 

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"We're going to have to do whatever we have to do legally to defend ourselves against some type of violent threat. It wouldn't be a brain surgeon that's going to be coming to our store to attack us," he said. "We know what we're going to do but they don't know, and that's the way we want to keep it."

Some recent background (via VICE):

 

Some images from overnight clashes:

 

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Sun, 11/23/2014 - 10:16 | 5478673 Jahbulon
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Bunch of vigilantes.  They don't care about real justice.  The kids was a thug.  It was bound to happen sooner or later. 

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 10:21 | 5478685 Intelligence_In...
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The videos released clearly show his thuggish ruggish behavior.   What kind of morons try to start social movement using this delinquent as a springboard?

Furguson protesters keep talking an L.

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 10:30 | 5478693 Latina Lover
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The cop will be released, the idiots will riot, their heads will get cracked, and then events will return to their usual level of mediocrity.

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 10:33 | 5478697 Ignatius
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"Colored peoples got them a hard road, Ignatius, you'll see."  -- Mrs. Reilly

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 11:09 | 5478795 Pool Shark
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The grand jury should just sit on its hands for a few weeks and let the protestors slowly freeze in the ice and snow...

 

 

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 11:23 | 5478815 J S Bach
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"Ninety-nine percent of the time the police officer is not held accountable for killing a young black boy," Crump said. "The police officer gets all the consideration." 

 

I wonder if the kosher Mr. Crump would tell us the percentage of time the police officer is not held accountable for killing young WHITE boys.  It does happen ya know... and I'm sure it's the same %.  Of course, that information wouldn't fit the paradigm and plan for kindling the fire to come.

 

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 11:39 | 5478857 Bangalore Equit...
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Listen.

Where I come from when the law say stop, you "STOP". Don't be a douche America!

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 12:17 | 5478954 ShrNfr
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And if you struggle with the cop in his cop car and try and get his firearm away from you, expect him to think that he intends to kill you. Ya know, if I had just performed a strong armed robbery or anything else like that I would be doing the least possible things to attract attention to myself. I would not be walking down the middle of a street. I would be crossing at the crosswalks with the walk sign and all the rest. You can't fix stupid, although this officer did remove some of it from the world.

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 12:40 | 5478997 RaceToTheBottom
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Outlaw sandwiches!!!!

It can be all traced back to that.

Also start treating people who give false information in testimony to police or to press with crimes.

 

this is not a race issue until people make it one.

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 12:50 | 5479024 RaceToTheBottom
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"Now let me tell you about the black man".....

 

Oh and how much gold is really in Ferguson?  Really?

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 13:15 | 5479080 Citxmech
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The only stores I can think of that have both gold and guns are pawn shops.

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 13:23 | 5479099 TheAnalOG
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Citizens of Ferguson owning Bitcoin can safely relocate knowing that their Bitcoins will be safely waiting in the Blockchain.  Those luddites holding physical cash and gold could find themselves in compromising situations "your money or your life".

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 13:46 | 5479138 economics9698
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When dealing with 85 IQ people nothing rational matters.  If they want to riot they will riot.

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 22:05 | 5480269 Paveway IV
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CITIZEN WARNS THAT 12-YR-OLD CHILD’S TOY GUN ON PLAYGROUND IS FAKE, COPS SHOOT AND KILL CHILD ANYWAY

The person who called 911 on the boy CLEARLY WARNED the dispatcher that the child’s toy gun was “fake.” Despite this warning, police shot and killed the boy.  Listen to the audio below.

CLEVELAND — A rookie police officer has just shot a 12-yr-old child to death on a playground.

The child was playing with a toy BB gun.

Police claim that the toy looked real and that they were “forced” to shoot the child.

However, the community and the boy’s family say that the cops were trigger-happy.

Darren Wilson was a dickhead a long time before he shot Brown. There's a YouTube video of him last year showing up at some guy's house to tag a junker without plates the guy was working on. The guy took a video with his cellphone, Wilson got pissed and arrested the guy. Cuffed him and dragged him downtown for defying his orders to stop filming.

Brown was no angel, but Wilson is a fucking Nazi - ready to put a bullet into anyone's head that he deems is in 'contempt of cop'. He'll be walking around in some other city with a diffrent badge (same steroids), ready to take out the next one of you punks that doesn't obey him. And he'll have plenty of official backing if he blows his lid again. He's a much bigger threat to the public than Michel Brown, the evil Swisher Sweets Cigar bandit, ever was. 

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 14:35 | 5479266 Citxmech
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Seriously?  What's the differnece between holding PMs or BC if some douchebag threatens to kill you or your family for your stash?   At that point you're already completely fucked anyway. 

BC's main utility at this point is for transactions, not for holding.  

Gold's main utility is that it is the most stable form of money in extreme circumstances.  Resiliance and simplicity is a virtue.

 

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 14:55 | 5479330 espirit
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Cut off a finger or two, then ask for the PIN, access sequence, or code.

 

No Rules, Just Right.

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 16:26 | 5479541 Keyser
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The Trayvon Martin case didn't succeed in starting a race war in the US, so they moved on to the Michael Brown case... What, you thought this was all by chance? Just because TPTB didn't get their way the first time, it's try and try again... 

 

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 18:54 | 5479909 Trucker Glock
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Check the protesters' teeth.

edit:  responding to the Ferguson gold question

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 14:19 | 5479217 Abaco
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Con't mistake COPS for the LAW.

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 14:29 | 5479240 Consuelo
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Where You come from, people drink from the same river they Shit in too...

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 11:41 | 5478867 Bay of Pigs
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People aren't interested in the facts when it comes to murder and gun violence in these shitholes we call cities in America.

The sad truth is that young black males are killing each other with reckless abandon and it gets zero MSM coverage.

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 11:50 | 5478884 LasVegasDave
Sun, 11/23/2014 - 12:02 | 5478923 gtb
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Nothing sad about it...

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 13:07 | 5479056 SeattleBruce
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Right. If the pursuit is truth, we'd hear about black on black violence, and the protests against lack of honest and good economic opportunity would be ongoing. That kind of observation/protest these days needn't be black or white as all Americans have been massively stolen from by TPTB. But making this a racial issue instead of an ongoing .01 economic opportunity protest means that they'll never have majority, mass support for their very real plight.

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 13:39 | 5479127 Bay of Pigs
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I agree with you Bruce.

 

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 14:23 | 5479190 Pool Shark
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If I were black, I would be afraid of other blacks. They're the ones that are 90.4% likely to kill me. Whites; not so much (8.0%)

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2010/crime-in-the-u.s.-2010/tables/10shrtbl06.xls

Given that blacks account for only 13.2% of the American popuation, blacks are 48 times more likely to be murderers of other blacks than are whites.

I realize this is not politically-correct, but it is the truth...

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 15:51 | 5479464 reset71
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I find your post to be the most humerous. There is utter irony in the way facts like these are known but completely ignored by the media and society.

The whites may be a dying race. Political correctness is a disease that will eliminate white culture. The blacks are doing a fine job of killing themselves off. So in the end I guess the Mexicans will win.

No biggy, I love tacos!

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 11:47 | 5478873 nmewn
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Well, I don't know how kosher he is (looks like a bacon eater to me...lol) but I would think calling a black man a "boy" would send Sharpton & Jackson into a frothing at the mouth epileptic fit of rage ;-)

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 12:04 | 5478922 Harbanger
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These rioters are fully controlled and by the Democrat elite of this country.  Sure they could have waited for a better cause, but couldn't because this is a distraction from Obama's Amnesty.  Hence the recent visits by Sharpton, Holder and Obama to Ferguson to ensure peace, right out of the weather underground rule book,

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 12:25 | 5478967 Government need...
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Oh great, Holder the Attorney General, seeing that 'Just-Us' is done.  The justice system is SOOOO corrupt.

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 12:10 | 5478941 Emergency Ward
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Killer cops do not go to jail.  As a rule.  The peckerwood, the Hispanic and the black mo-fo were all reaching into their waistbands for a 9mm.  Every time.  I don't know how the gun changed into a cell phone or a Snickers bar after I shot the perp in the back, captain.  Don't worry, you're a good cop, we'll cover for you.

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 12:26 | 5478972 Government need...
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This is how I see it as well.  How many NYPD fucktards went to prison for spraying 30+ rounds down at the Empire State Building, injuring 9 bystanders?

Fuck 'em.  I wouldn't piss on one if he were on fire.

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 13:21 | 5479092 Bananamerican
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"Well, they had to shoot the citizens to protect the citizens"
It sez it rite there on thair skwod kar

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 13:52 | 5479156 PrecipiceWatching
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Completely irrelevant to the FACTS of this particular case.

 

 

 

 

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 13:13 | 5479073 buyingsterling
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Blacks and whites will NEVER get along in this country because blacks will always blame failures on slavery. They will resent whites 10,000 years from now. And all because their corrupt ancestors preferred to deal with slavers than to drive them off.

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 13:56 | 5479171 PrecipiceWatching
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It is also because weak, self-hating white liberals, as well as the entire  power-hungry Left, continue to tell ignorant blacks that they are mistreated.

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 14:00 | 5479173 PrecipiceWatching
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Duplicate.

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 14:34 | 5479260 Mike in GA
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It bears repeating.

 

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 15:59 | 5479482 reset71
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http://violenceagainstwhites.wordpress.com/white-slaves/

 

Isn't it strange that Spaniards killed off millions of the locals ins South America, then imported tens of millions of slaves. They bread with the local peoples and turned into new ethnicities. Now we are supposed to think Mexicans are the oppressed even though their European ancestors were arguable worse than North American European ancestors. 

White people need to start standing up for their right to live without being labeled as oppressors. White people, who are alive, do not and have never owned slaves! Slave owners made up less than 2% of the population in colonial North America! People of every color used to have slaves!

White privelage is a myth!

Hard work, education, and manners pays off! 

Mon, 11/24/2014 - 07:47 | 5480965 Monty Burns
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"White people need to start standing up for their right to live without being labeled as oppressors. "

RACIST!!!
HATER!!! 

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 14:29 | 5479243 underman
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Where's the protests against blacks killing blacks?  Damn shame.

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 16:02 | 5479492 reset71
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Democrat/Socialists can't promise free stuff to blacks for killing themselves. 

Obama said we would each get like $2,400 per family if we elected him and supported Obamacare.

This is code for, "Black people and any uneducated people in general. Vote for me and I promist to be Robin in da Hood and take the rich people's ill gotten bling and give it to you- because your life is hard and you are a victim and perhaps your great great great great great cousin had to pick cotton."

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 11:23 | 5478820 AssFire
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“Oh, Fortuna, you capricious sprite!”---Ignatius

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 11:44 | 5478821 AssFire
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Just moar distraction and fear mongering...("Oh we must get fondled and take off our shoes or the terrorists in caves will behead us- Thank God for our gubberment keeping us safe") In actuality, the gubbermint will stand by and not interfere while they loot, just as they do for the bankers.

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 11:27 | 5478829 doc333
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Don't we all...........

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 10:33 | 5478699 synergize
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Kid was probably a thug, but I definitely am not going to back the corrupt police either.  This is about people being mad at the system - and they have every damn right to be pissed at it.

We need some real change here and it isnt going to come from Democrats or Republicans...

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 11:04 | 5478783 ejmoosa
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But they do not have a right to take a cop who has not been proven to be corrupt, and sacrifice him for their cause.

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 11:09 | 5478796 Pool Shark
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This is where the rioters lost all credibility; they have chosen a thug as their martyr...

 

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 11:31 | 5478839 snodgrass
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This is what tribalism is all about. OJ Simpson got away with killing two people because of tribalism. Blacks commit most of the crime in this country but whites are made to feel guilty when blacks are convicted of a crime. A white woman in Kansas was recently raped and set on fire by a black male. She has now died. Will whites turn her into a martyr? No. Why? Because if whites try the tribalism thingy - they are called racists, Nazis, haters. blah blah blah.

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 11:54 | 5478901 AssFire
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Exactly, Bach had a great comment about this a couple days ago. Without a homogeneous society, we have nothing to bind us as a nation. The gubbermint wants us fractured and divided- that is why they keep injecting other random people here.

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 13:28 | 5479110 Bananamerican
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"....and send the little insects ahead to take the fight out of them" - the Wicked Witch of the West

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 13:28 | 5479108 TheReplacement
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If tribalism is something to be disdained then isn't it right for whites to do so?  This question doesn't really speak to how things in real life are being handled, just in theory.

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 14:11 | 5479205 DaveyJones
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OJ Simpson was not a story about a black man in the court system

OJ Simpson was a story about a rich man in the system

 

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 14:21 | 5479225 PrecipiceWatching
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Bullshit.

 

The beheading feral savage would't have walked without the race card being continually played to a bigoted, corrupt jury.

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 14:40 | 5479268 DaveyJones
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yes I'm sure his numerous high powered, high profiled attorneys, and massive media coverage were not a factor.

You're teling us his wealth and public status was less of a factor than his skin?

poor black (and brown) boys play the race card every day with different results.

I also forgot to give due credit to some shitty prosecution

Mon, 11/24/2014 - 07:42 | 5480958 Monty Burns
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Bullshit, bollocks...and well you know it.  

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 11:26 | 5478830 cnmcdee
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You are right - if only we can get the elite banking interests and the US government to stop sacrificing *all* of it's citizens into poverty to support a parastitic system, then we would be getting somewhere...

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 11:28 | 5478837 p00k1e
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Wah, Jews nailed a god and you are worried about a cop. ‘Pray for him”.  LOL

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 11:35 | 5478847 LordEffingtonTh...
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Just what exactly do you not understand about beating a cops face in "not being good for longevity" ?

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 11:40 | 5478859 TurdOnTheRun
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Listen. I believe everything the cops say. They volunteer to protect and serve and if cops were corrupt and/or violent there would be videos all over the internet and thousands of court cases with convictions.

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 11:45 | 5478870 Bangalore Equit...
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Listen.

Also, any of the American cops that I met while I was stationed at Research Triangle Park were very easy to talk to. They were professionals. All the shite you hear on The Hedge makes them out to be doubled headed snakes, vipers at that!

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 12:02 | 5478919 Emergency Ward
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bangy -- have you ever heard of Aesop's fable of The Blind Men and the Elephant?

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 12:14 | 5478945 Bangalore Equit...
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Listen.

Why yes I have it is Hindu lore afterall.

Nice kitty, no scratching now, ok?

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 13:33 | 5479106 Bananamerican
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Just out of curiosity, what's your gig Bangalore? And does that have anything to do with your mega compliant nature w. regard to authority? Or is that just a 3rd cultural inclination of yours?

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 12:46 | 5479016 MrButtoMcFarty
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They thought you were the new shoeshine boy....that's all.

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 15:22 | 5479402 espirit
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I miss the 'old' francis_sawyer.

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 22:42 | 5480455 NuckingFuts
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His name was Francis_Sawyer...

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 10:33 | 5478701 WTFMOFO
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Little Lebowski Urban Acheivers are getting giddy.

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 12:22 | 5478960 Midas
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And proud we are of all of them.

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 11:53 | 5478892 Renewable Life
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Someone is nervous about something here a little bigger then what is being reported, because last minute plan changes by the Obligarchy are rare, and must be triggered by "intelligence" gathering that has been going on in the area/region!!

It looks like the one party corporatist, globalist, Kenyesian lunatics, will get there first big "test" they've been working for, so hard!!

It looks like from the big change in tone on ZH, it's working perfectly to plan, split em by race, then split by religion, then by class, then there's no one left to resist!!

Your about to experience what we've been doing around the world to others for 60 years, yourselves, the ultimate "blowback" I assume!! It was bound to happen and its here!!! Happy Thanksgiving and Merry Christmas to all, (or Happy Holidays for you PC fools)
Love your .Gov

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 13:34 | 5479116 TheReplacement
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Rationally we know that most of the proteters are protesting more than Brown's death.  They are locals who have been living in the situation all their lives.  You can tell by the military hardware the cops broke out right away just how the police view the residents.

We also know that the rioters are mostly not from the area.  I think these are the people being discussed, despite inprecise language to that effect, here on ZH.

Of course there are the monkeys who do what is bid of them and willingly promulgate race/tribal/religious divisions.  This simpleton mindset goes back to the Nazis in recent history and the Romans in ancient history.  When someone with money wants others to create hatred there are always those willing to shill for them.

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 11:59 | 5478914 Freddie
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Businesses have private military contractors and the former SEAL guys says he has his hands in a lot of things? 

What a F'ed up country. Military contractors?  What is this like hiring private Roman legions?  Gold is being moved out?  What disaster and a joke like Obala.

The media and the left pushing the poor child meme.  Yeah the cops are out of control but the kid was a thug and the parents are responsible.  Now mom and dad play Ozie and Harriet like Mr. and Mrs. Trayvon.

Hope and Change.  Libs voted for this.

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 13:42 | 5479131 Golden Rule
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I live in St. Louis and am friends with a few cops and in fact 15 security contractors that were hired to help move a lot of the guns and gold. They are moving these items not just in Ferguson but in the surrounding areas. Just the group I know helped move 7 tracker trailers full on Friday and Saturday.
Locally I am hearing these outside groups are coming in and organizing much more then the national media is telling. They are arming, training and providing logistical support. Including training in war land warfare, small unit tactics, and escape and evasion. They are providing safe houses and coordinating transports. There is a lot of talk of trying to quickly move the riots to several of the surrounding suburbs and through out the city. There is also talk if trying to set it off in several other large cities. It's ridiculous! Without the outside agitators this wouldn't be an issue.
Every Alphabet soup agency is in town now. A few days ago a local employee of a hotel snapped and posted a photo of around 70 homeland security SUVs in the hotel parking garage and was quickly fired.

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 14:32 | 5479244 PrecipiceWatching
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I'm in St. Louis as well.

 

I was thinking Florissant, Hazelwood and other areas in the vicinity where productive, law-abiding white PEOPLE still predominate.

 

Too the savages and their out of town Communist enablers, did specifically indicate wealthy Clayton as a target as  well.  Snicker.... lots of smug liberals in Clayton

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 15:32 | 5479425 espirit
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This issue has the capability to enable hostilities in other parts of the USSA, particularly warmer Southern states.

Beware.

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 23:04 | 5480514 NuckingFuts
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Run to schnucks for some milk and bread, ask the cashier where they went to high school then get on highway "Farty" home....... Sorry, couldn't resist.

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 16:35 | 5479521 underman
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"I live in St. Louis".  Why, may I ask you?  It's such a dishonest place to call home.  The racial inequality/divide is so unapologetically swept under the rug.  A constant, pervasive lie among it's citizens.

Ever drive through the north side of St. Louis?  The plight is astounding.  And it stretches for miles.  One third world block after another.  Checkered with boarded up windows, heaps of garbage and vacant lots, liquor stores, fried-chicken shacks, and check-cashers.  For miles in every direction.  And the people who were born into it.  It's mind-boggling that the rest of the city turns a blind eye to the vast hopelessness and poverty affecting half of the city's population.  But oh boy, whitey sure as hell's proud of his toasted ravs, ted drewes and cardinal baseball!  No concern about the 150-200 unsolved murders every year?  Add it up over the last 20 years = thousands of murderers running free around St. Louis streets.  1000's of blacks killing blacks.  And still the civic pride that St. Louisans have for their city is off the charts!  3 cheers for Imo's Pizza!  3 cheers for Forest Park!  3 cheers for Casino Queen!  Same goes for other cities, particularly the cities that fell hard to the crack trade of the 80/90's.  There's no fixing it.  No one cares.  It's broken completely and absolutely.  How these people stand for it, for years on end, for their entire miserable lives is beyond me.  Almost hope that shit hits the fan in a big, big way - just to get an inflection point going in a better direction.  Forget the argument of Brown being a worthy martyr.  He's just a piece of flint, nothing else.  The entire situation needs to be addressed.  Wants to be addressed.  But without leadership, you see the emotions break out with violence and looting.  And no good outcome comes with opposing it with militarized forces.  Violence meets violence.  It's squashed to a whimper, swept back under the rug.  Whitey goes back to his St Louie stupor, his Shafly-induced haze!  They're ALL miserable in this town, the Gateway to misery.  The center of their own mad, miserable universe.  Ground zero for social ineptitude in America. 

I escaped 22 years ago.

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 22:55 | 5480486 NuckingFuts
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For the first time ever I am responding before even finishing your post. I also left. But some folks don't have those options..... And what fucking utopia do you live in. I am not a STL native or even MO for that matter but don't judge a guy for not leaving... Folks have history there, it is there home... A dysfunctional one, but home non the less.

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 22:48 | 5480469 NuckingFuts
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I lived in stl county myself for a decade. My inlaws are in west STL county.... My father in law just bought his first handgun ... A glock 40 last week, he's in his 70's. A lot of folks well outside the north county area are starting to cover their ass. It's on.

Mon, 11/24/2014 - 03:42 | 5480843 underman
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I know St. Louis as well as anyone.  The suburbs you speak of - west county - are worlds away from the violence and dangers of the city.  And there's a very clear line you don't cross in St. Louis - Del Mar Avenue to the north, where it's 94% black and where 90% of the city's homicides occur.  I've seen tragedies over the years of my youth there.  I worked in a restaurant in the city as a teenager.  An Italian restaurant in an all-white neighborhood.  The kitchen help - dishwashers and cooks - were mostly hard-working and good black folk.  One was shot and killed.  The girlfriend of another was shot and killed.  The father of another was shot and killed.  Another was thrown down a flight of steps and suffered a miscarriage.  This was over a 3 year period.  Violence and tradegy runs through the city's veins.  Seems everyone comes close to it.  My brother had a gun pointed to his head, mugged right in front of his home as he parked his car in his white neighborhood.  I've also lived in Chicago for a decade.  And near Oakland for 3 years - where people seem to think it's a right of passage to get mugged (at least the phony liberals do.) 

St. Louis is now nothing like what it was before white flight.  It was a good place to raise a family - two generations ago!!  But that's history man.  People have a choice!  To think you're stuck there, because your parents never left, is lame.  And believe me - I still have most of my family and friends still living there.  And each has his/her reason.  All bullshit reasons.  No balls!  There's always a choice to leave the god-forsaken shit-hole that it's become.  Just put one foot in front of the other!  Fill the gas tank and go.  Buy a bus ticket.  Problem with many people who live there too long - is that they don't develop or evolve enough to hack living in a better city.  Their shit becomes so painfully obvious when you take them out of their center-of-the-universe comfort zone - so affectionately called "The Lou."  But when you escape early, as I did, you eventually learn what a crock of shit St. Louis really is.  It's the parents and grandparents keeping their children at arm's length, discouraging world adventures or any kind of real living/learning.  And it's an absolute lack of balls and absence of will to improve oneself in a meaningful way that keeps people rationalizing their residence in St. Louis.  Once you get past the superficial crap that makes up most people's lives there, and remove "job" and "parents" from the equation - most of the people I know want to live elsewhere.  But it fades.  And the years roll by.  And they bury themselves under all the poor excuses and residual crap - essentially trapping them in a certain miserable existence. 

One very large and looming reason to leave St. Louis now?  The city is fucking ground zero for America's race war!  The line is drawn.  The guns are pointed.  Get your KIDS out of fucking dodge!  And I'm not referring to the fucking burbs - west county, south county, whatever - that's where you go to die a different death!  Take them to a place they can live and learn.  And be spared this front-row seat to violence and madness!   

 

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 14:03 | 5486835 Golden Rule
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I don't necessarily disagree with you about the segregation and white flight but I've lived in 2 other cities as well and honestly saw the same conditions to varying degrees.  To paint everyone with the same brush is a mistake. 

Most people I know aren't prejudice, are smart enough to see what you outlined, do what they can and at bare minimum educate others.  The problem is the very people that have the responsibility to the community and the ability to bring about change don't.  The same people are voted for year in and year out and when the SHTF like now they point the finger at someone else.   Lacy Clay comes to mind as a perfect example. Inequality starts with the policies and pogroms at the top and infects its way all the way to the bottom.  The Fed and both red and blue team.

Btw, I'm not going to go into why but like many for various reasons, I can't leave.  I don't fit into the "bullshit reasons" or "no balls" category. 

 

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 13:56 | 5479172 Larry Dallas
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C'mon!
Hurry up with the riots already.

Rather watch that than football on Thanksgiving...

Give a whole new meaning to Black Friday... Ha!

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 15:08 | 5479372 underman
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Keep those free turkeys coming!  Fatten 'em up, make them thankful, take the fight right out of 'em! 

Pass the popcorn.

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 15:37 | 5479431 August
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>>>their usual level of mediocrity.

One would hope.  Ferguson, though, is the anti-Lake Wobegon: all the kids are below average.

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 10:47 | 5478736 greatbeard
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>> What kind of morons try to start social movement using this delinquent as a springboard?

Yeah, why couldn't they find someone like Cliven Bundy to use as s springboard?

 

 

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 11:21 | 5478819 STP
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Different crowd, different agenda.  I was there and you were among honest citizens, and the vast majority of them were some of the most considerate people I've ever been around.

Contrast this crowd ...

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 11:48 | 5478881 Bangalore Equit...
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Listen.

IMO, this crowd is just looking for the opportunity to get some free blunt wraps and a new pair of Jordans when the looting starts.

Stupid Americans.

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 15:22 | 5479394 PrecipiceWatching
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Not Americans.

Savages.

Huge difference.

 

Try to curb your incessant, spittle-flecked, broad brush hatred of everything American.  I know that is cool and fashionable here among some of the dim bulbs infesting this site, but it makes you look puerile and vastly uninformed.

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 13:36 | 5479120 Bananamerican
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STP, the Bundy crowd was demonized in the MSM 6 way to Sunday

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 11:35 | 5478849 LordEffingtonTh...
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Clive Bundy did not kill anyone.  That truly was about the militarization of every department of government.

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 11:54 | 5478899 greatbeard
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>> Clive Bundy did not kill anyone.

Oh, and Michael Brown killed someone now?

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 16:07 | 5479215 PrecipiceWatching
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Should Officer Wilson have let the low IQ, violent savage kill him FIRST?

 

What do you think the POS Brown was trying to do?

 

I'd love to see some of you perenially cynical, know it all punks, boots on the ground with these less than zero, inner city baboons.

 

 

 

 

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 23:01 | 5480504 NuckingFuts
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GB- I might not always agree with you, but are one of the better BS callers on ZH, keep it up.

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 11:43 | 5478862 Bangin7GramRocks
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I don't like cops killing any citizens.

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 11:54 | 5478895 Bangalore Equit...
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Listen.

American cops from the state level down deserve respect. They are hard working well trained respectful men. It's Americans disrespect for the law that gets them killed. And rightfully so.

Now. The Federal level lawmen are a completely different story. FBI are a bunch of dishonest scumbags. Tapping phones and computers of law respecting individuals. Creating honeypot websites to try and "TRICK" people. Scumbags, head to toe.

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 11:57 | 5478911 Emergency Ward
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bangy -- If you ever visit the USSA make sure you don't bring any live animals with you.

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 13:37 | 5479125 Bananamerican
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But continue to bring your knee pads ....(Amerika LOVES its docile 3rd worlders)

Mon, 11/24/2014 - 17:35 | 5483128 detached.amusement
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hahahaha, let us know when you actually visit the USA for any length of time longer than a weekend getaway

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 11:03 | 5478781 ejmoosa
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Whatever it takes....

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 12:54 | 5479031 El Vaquero
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The videos released clearly show his thuggish ruggish behavior.   What kind of morons try to start social movement using this delinquent as a springboard?

Furguson protesters keep talking an L.

There are two dynamics going on here.  Everything that I have seen shows that there are thugs on both sides of the "law" in Ferguson.  The cops are abusive towards everybody and then there's the convenience store robbing, mug your ass crowd.  Normal people who just want to live are getting caught in the middle of that shit, and they're pissed, not rational.  There's no excuse for the beatings and robberies, but then again, there's no excuse for a cop glassing the group of protesters that was peaceful with the optics on his fucking AR.  Completely inexcusable in an aggravated assault with a deadly weapon sort of way.  There is too much tension for shit to break in a reasonable way.  Either it keeps on building, or it releases in a way that's not pretty.  In short, this is what happens when stupid collides. 

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 16:46 | 5479600 DetectiveStern
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If it helps bring an end to the Fed who gives a fuck who starts it and why.

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 20:31 | 5480139 DiogenesTheCynic
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Actually, quite a few social movements use the idiotic, stultified, dumbed-down cannon foddor of youth in an attempt to achieve "certain" objectives.

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 10:33 | 5478706 Duke of Earl
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Seems they do care about real justice.  In that mythical system witnessless on-the-spot executions aren't carried out.

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 10:52 | 5478747 Gamma735
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Finch: No, it was a feeling. But I can guess. With so much chaos, someone will do something stupid. And when they do, things will turn nasty. And then Sutler will be forced to do the only thing he knows how to do. At which point, all V needs to do is keep his word. And then...

[Dominoes collapse with TV footages showing conflicts between rioting citizens and the anti-riot police]

 

From V for Vandetta, 2005

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 11:45 | 5478877 tradingdaze
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Not sure being shot dead is the correct punishment for stealling some cigars.

If this was a white male, shot dead with his hands up in broad daylight, the cop would have been in jail by now.

Let's not pretend it's justice for all. The divide is there for all to see.

 

 

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 14:27 | 5479235 Abaco
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I think stealing the cigars was secondary to punching the cop and trying to take his gun as the reason for the thug getting put down.

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 14:34 | 5479269 PrecipiceWatching
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You know absolutely NOTHING about the relevant facts of this case, now do you?

 

Just another idiot accepting the lies and propaganda from the LeftMedia

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 12:03 | 5478921 Payne
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So shoplifting is now a crime punishable by death !  Forget the trial.  Wow, I would not have survived growing up with those rules.

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 15:10 | 5479376 jerry_theking_lawler
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No, but if the facts show that the brown guy was punching the cop (who carries a gun for a living) in the face then this is actually a defensible offense where the officer (or any average citizen who feared for their lives) could protect themselves. So, you argument is off. The shoplifting wasn't the reason for the 'death'....it could possibly be his beating the officer. Just stay tuned and listen for the facts. I think this is what this crowd is best known for...fact finding and applying logic to form their decisions.

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 16:48 | 5479602 DetectiveStern
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Still not an offence punishable by death.

Fire one in the leg if you want someone to stop hitting you.

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 12:51 | 5479029 ZombieHuntclub
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Fergidishu will burn. No great loss.

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 13:50 | 5479147 Ass Burger
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Sun, 11/23/2014 - 14:28 | 5479241 killieboy
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NRA - NSA - NWA - USSA = FUBAR.

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 14:31 | 5479246 killieboy
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NRA + NSA + NWA + USSA = FUBAR.

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 10:19 | 5478676 apberusdisvet
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The decision will be announced on Wednesday, prior to the 4 day Thanksgiving weekend.  All the kiddies will be home, the markets will be closed.  This is the most logical scenario.

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 10:21 | 5478682 Pheonyte
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Doubt it, that would throw a monkey wrench into Black Friday sales. Give it another week.

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 10:52 | 5478748 NoPension
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Set up some hoops, and flood the area with free basketballs. That should do it.

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 11:28 | 5478835 cnmcdee
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Back up a couple Kentucky Fried Chicken trucks and a couple wagon loads of watermelon - for sure your plan would be a raving success.

Add in some gangster rap bands and the place would turn into a concert..

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 12:34 | 5478982 Government need...
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Dont forget the Colt-45.  Malt liquor, that is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlR-I57nmr4

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 10:33 | 5478705 ebworthen
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Thanksgiving at High Noon when the NFL games are about to start and the Women folk are cooking and preparing their outfits to go out and grab Black Friday deals.  It's the "football/tryptophan/mama needs the car" strategy.

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 12:15 | 5478951 pupdog1
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...and the Women folk are cooking and preparing their outfits to go out and grab Black Friday deals.

Bricks in hand.

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 10:20 | 5478678 Disenchanted
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Ft Knox

NYFed

 

"Gold and guns being transported to secure location"

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 10:27 | 5478689 bania
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I believe the Fed Reserve has their own security force to assist with moving gold.

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 10:34 | 5478704 NoDebt
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Those shop owners aren't letting the Feds anywhere near their stuff.  They know if they do, they're not getting it back.

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 10:20 | 5478679 drstrangelove73
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Pants up.
Don't loot!

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 11:57 | 5478905 Bangalore Equit...
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Listen.

Pants on. Stop breeding!

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 23:19 | 5480551 StychoKiller
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1Billion+ Hindoos don't agree with that statement!

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 11:02 | 5478681 The Big Ching-aso
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I'm concerned things are about to go Full-Fergtard.*

*Post note:

1). I dare anyone to rapidly say Full-Fergtard 3 times in a row without sounding heavily intoxicated.

2). Meanwhile waiting for the verdict, the world anxiously awaits for the next heavily banged Cosby accuser to reveal herself on tabloid TV for 'X' $$$$$. Not that this is a coordinated convenient mass media distraction.

3). I want to go on record that Bill Cosby to me at the time was pretty funny about 43 years ago. I don't know if I should admit this though.

4). Obviously moving forward the best solution to prevent this from ever happening again is to ban cops from ever working in Ferguson.

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 11:04 | 5478779 NoTTD
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3) Recent revelations give a whole new angle on "To Russel MyBrother, Whom I Slept With".

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 11:28 | 5478834 Headbanger
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Full-Fergtard!  Fulferrtrd...  Fulfuurttrddd  !!!

Fuck Ferguson and all the liberal MSM for creating this disaster.

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 10:20 | 5478683 Xibalba
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Somehow, someway, Holder is making money off of this. 

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 10:28 | 5478692 Seize Mars
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Well the fascist Amerikan Krony Police State rolls on. I wonder if they think they can just keep killing Americans without any kind of consequence? Who knows.

 

http://www.policestateusa.com/

 

Thanks, AIPAC!

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 10:29 | 5478695 Ignatius
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"Bet every damn one of them is on welfare because working man would lose his job over this unAmerican sh!t." -- Franci, the twit(terer)

How "unAmerican" is/was it to off-shore our manufacturing, Franci?

 

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 10:33 | 5478700 Meat Hammer
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And if they get an indictment they'll riot celebrating.  They're animals... it's what they do. 

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 10:37 | 5478715 IridiumRebel
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Damned if you do, damned if you don't. This case they have chosen to rally behind is the worst. There are numerous other cases of police brutality and murder that are clear cut and here we are with this leading to more liberty lost because these fools have no true leadership. Dr. King would denounce this vile action. Sathyagraha.

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 10:54 | 5478761 chunga
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Yup, this looks like an MSM "divide and conquer" ploy. The narrative is entirely managed as usual to achieve the desired result. For example, see ebola.

To many, the militarized police are a bigger problem than race. The anger towards the jack boots has been diluted between the two issues.

 

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 10:55 | 5478765 IridiumRebel
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Absolutely correct. 

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 11:07 | 5478790 chunga
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It's all so predictable but it works like a charm.

Last week, Tyler had the story about all the polluted fracking water landing in the California aquifers. After reading that I clicked over to the popular left-wing hangout Democratic Underground. They love global warming and all that environmental shit but not one word about it. Because Obama.

Then I clicked over to popular right-wing hangout Free Republic. Not one word about it over there either. Because "just drill baby". 

The sheeple are easliy controlled.

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 11:21 | 5478814 IridiumRebel
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i am to the point where all political musings are left here on ZH because I believe that most of the rest of the population is stupid and deserves what they get. Problem is that it has implications on me too.

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 11:57 | 5478912 MsCreant
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You would be surprised how many other African Amercians get it. I teach and brought up the topic of militarization of police with my students. I used Ferguson as one of many examples (JROTC in the Chicago school system in poor neighborhoods but not rich [rich get magnet schools instead, the poor get recruited], MRAPs for schools, the arming of police forces [you may remember that interactive map where you can look to see what military surplus equipment went where], I have collected more). I took a chance. I laid it out that racism set a context so that it is possible to potentially fry an innocent cop because no one would believe it was a good shooting, even if it was. I talked a little bit about gun culture and why 6 shots is not as insane as it sounds. I had a lot of African American students in my audience that evening, and I was waiting to need to defend my stance or even be booed out of the place. Every last one of them got it. Lot of heads nodding strong agreement. Some ex-soldiers spoke up (black) and backed me up on the training issue (under threat, you shoot till the threat is erradicated). 

My take is if you validate them on the history of racial profiling and police harassment, they can hear the real verdict and get it. Because trust isn't there, this is what we are dealing with.

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 14:25 | 5479232 DaveyJones
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I'm gonna second that. I have young male clients of all color (probably around the same age) in criminal trouble. Most are middle class. Some have been in the military. Of course I like to talk about big picture stuff with them. Most of them are worried but not about racism. That's very low on the list. They distrust and fear their government and the new world economy. THey think (rightfully so) that they are being handed a pile of shit and that they will never live like their parents. Like you said, they fear and distrust the police but for the very same reason they fear the and distrust the government, because it is a criminal, ever militarized government machine that has little to do with helping them. They know it lies and beats people (of all color) and most important to this subject, enjoys a different set of rules including when it gets in trouble.

good to see you          

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 11:41 | 5478865 MsCreant
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You are so right. Wow. 

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 11:42 | 5478866 MsCreant
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Doubly so. 

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 11:21 | 5478818 JohnG
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Meat, these creatures do not have the level of sophistication of animals.

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 11:32 | 5478840 cnmcdee
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I keep thinking deep fried chicken is the solution - so much so I think I'm gonna go out and get me some right there now...

 

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 12:09 | 5478939 pupdog1
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I like your welding goggles.

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 10:34 | 5478707 NoPension
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Marion Barry died. " Bitch set me up " , " I'm da Mayor, suc ma dik"

Maybe the protesters will go to his funeral, and while their eye is off the ball, release the GJ verdict.

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 10:36 | 5478708 buzzsaw99
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<-- fuck 'em

<-- don't give a toss

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 10:35 | 5478710 Bumbu Sauce
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Rioters will be met with deadly force.

Post it everywhere.  Enforce it.

Sun, 11/23/2014 - 11:18 | 5478812 buzzsaw99
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take off and nuke the site from orbit. it's the only way to be sure.

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