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The Iran Nuclear Talks (In 1 Lonely Photo)
With President Obama proclaiming this morning "it's too early to tell" if a nuclear-deal with Iran is still possible; and apparent confirmation this afternoon that differences are "still significant," the US is said to be discussing extending the nuclear-deal deadline. Yet again no consequences (for a newfound 'ally') and yet again John Kerry finds himself purposeless... and now we hear Vladimir Putin will be calling Iran's Rouhani tomorrow (one can only imagine the topic of conversation).
h/t @Shahr2ad
As Reuters reports, talks between Iran and six powers, which include China and Russia as well as the United States and three big EU countries, are expected to fail to reach a deal to lift U.S. and EU sanctions by a deadline on Monday.
While the deadline, already extended in July, could be extended again, Iranian officials have said they are working on an alternative if the talks collapse altogether, which would see them look east and north for diplomatic and economic support.
"Of course we have a plan B," a senior Iranian official told Reuters. "I cannot reveal more details but we have always had good relations with Russia and China. Naturally, if the nuclear talks fail, we will increase our cooperation with our friends and will provide them more opportunities in Iran's high-potential market."
He added: "We share common views (with Russia and China) on many issues, including Syria and Iraq."
China is the biggest buyer of Iranian oil and one of the few countries to continue absorbing large volumes of Iranian exports without any big decrease since U.S. and EU sanctions were tightened in the past three years. Russia has sold Iran weapons, built a nuclear power station and could provide technology.
Both countries can provide diplomatic cover at the U.N. Security Council, where they wield vetoes that can help prevent sanctions from be widened.
But...
If the nuclear talks collapse completely - an outcome none of the parties wants - neither China nor Russia can stop the United States and European Union from taking unilateral steps outside the United Nations to expand the painful energy and financial sanctions that hobbled the Iranian economy since 2011.
However, it seems 'another' nation may be about to align towards the Russia-China axis... (via Sputnink News)
Russian President Vladimir Putin is planning to have a phone conversation on Monday with his Iranian counterpart Hassan Rouhani, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said on Sunday during his meeting with Iran's Foreign Minister Javad Zarif.
“Tomorrow, he [Putin] plans to talk to Rouhani, the administrations are in touch,” Lavrov said.
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The more the west pushes, the greater the impetus for ending the unipolar reign of the Petrodollar.
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Give every nation nuclear weapons so they can protect themselves against the NWO.
Beginning with Palestine.
Take a tin cup and wander around Brooklyn pleading "Nukes for Palestine"...
Then report back.
That sounds like a bit of a laugh actually.
This won't end well, is that table pressure treated?
Too bad for ordinary Iranians living in their home country, simply because the Israeli/Arab military alliance will launch a massive air assault against Iran's nuclear and strategic infrastructure, bringing the Islamic Republic back to the stone age effectively. This unholy alliance will indeed employ non-conventional ordnance based on depleted uranium ammunition in order to destroy underground (and fortified) facilities. As a result of this military action, the Islamic Republic of Iran will have uninhabitable areas for thousands of years and the current regime will face a never seen chaotic collapse.
I don't think that's what will happen. S300
Comte, I believe you've explained scenario for the major US cities.
The BS is bold with this one...
Now Comte....
You know there will be response to a nuclear attack by Israel and her purported Arab Allies. It will probably hit downtown Tel Aviv. The monster's head.
The Iron Dome is just a progandical name for retired US patriot missiles.
You've been dipping your schnoz in absinthe, haven't you?
Naughty naughty.
"...This unholy alliance will indeed employ non-conventional ordnance based on depleted uranium ammunition in order to destroy underground (and fortified) facilities..."
The current Hard, Deeply-Buried Target weapon is a 15-ton conventional GBU-57B Massive Ordinance Penetrator. It does not use depleted uranium and detonates deeply enough that little venting of nuclear material would occur when they bomb underground Iranian nuclear facilities. It can only be delivered by a B-2 or F-111, neither of which Israel possesses.
Israel's problem is - as always - the US taxpayer's problem. We shelled out a hundred mil or so a few years back for development of something then called the Next Generation Penetrator. No idea what form that will take, but the idea is to build something equivalent to a GBU-57B but far lighter. Light enough to carry on an F-15. I'm sure that one will be a low-yield nuke designed to detonate a few hundred feet down in solid rock. Nothing has been announced.
The first time we'll know about them is when Israel uses them against Iran. Which will piss off Iran enough to start WWIII, which will mean tens-of-thousands of dead American soldiers paying for Israel's psychopathy once again. Nettanyahu will be laughing all the way to the bank.
- "is that table pressure treated?"
Joke of the Day!
One sandwich short of a picnic.
Sorry, duplicate post
As intended.
It is a laugh they are all in a hand granades range. lol
#IRANviennaTalks http://hedgeaccordingly.com/2014/11/twitter-reacts-to-irantalksvienna-su...
Russian nuclear forces both tactical and strategic have acted as a "suicide" guarantee of soverign Russian territory. Granted to use it is suicide but ,having the possibility that they might use it, forces the US and EU to tread carefully in their take over of the Russian Federation. Once happy to allow Russia to become a nuclear armed backwater, and economic corpse for US corporations and banks to pick the bones of, things have shifted in the last decade. The threat of a recovering independent Russia is just too much for Washington DC to bear. Just like a large, independent and economically viable Iranian state can not be tolerated by Israel. It's not a matter of proteccting the US and Israel, it is a matter of maintaing a power monoploy in Israeli and US hands.
Basically the Washington crowd is befuddled by independent states like Russia, Iran and China + Brazil and a few others. Their economies and banks are not subject to dictates coming from Washington and Tel Aviv. This doesn't sit well. Yet the growing threats by the US to tame these nations has driven them more and more together. In effect forcing them into alliance of mutual defense against the only nations left who declare an absolute right to determine the world order. That being the USA and Israel.
israel =ussa
ussa =israel
one in the same the us gov is the israeli gov just using another name and flag
stop all the conspiracy theories no one is a puppet in .gov they are all in it together all hail israel get used to it or change it schlep on america right to your ignorant flag waiving graves
First nuke Israel.
In thier entire history these israeli zionist scum have created nothing but destruction everywhere they go and in everything they "create" and still with thousands of years of history proving without a shadow of a doubt, people refuse to publicly admit it. jooze are a parasite( akin to a tapeworm you don't need to have a million of them to starve/weaken you to the point of demise) that have convinced you otherwise. With all this BS about actions speak louder than words floating around here and still no one Calls them out for what they are. Read thier policies, read thier state news, listen to thier speeches ...Do you still want to defend these degenerates? Holocaust of the jews..in reallity it's an ongoing holocaust run against every race on earth especially the caucasians.
enjoy life with your head up your own ass oh yeah use your own advice follow the "money"
Listen.
Amen. I've said this before but one antidote to these "PEOPLE" is simply start shitting on your sidewalks.
Especially in NYC, Shitcago, Hollywood, and S. Florida.
Do it America!
So that explains India. You guys definitely are a smart bunch.
It is the faux Hebrew Babylonian Joos that are the problem......Those descendants of the 95% of Hebrews that did not return to Jerusalem when Cyrus freed them from 483 years of Babylonian captivity to go home and rebuild their city and their temple.
The Synagogue system and the horrid Babylonian Talmud emanated from those Satan-tainted reprobate minds of the phony Joos that were pushed out of Khazaria/Persia into Russia and Europe when Islam expanded into the region of Khazaria/Persia in the 6th and 7th centuries A.D.
They brought the evil concept of fractional reserve banking and acceptable usury to mitigate and obfuscate the inevitable economic degeneracy and confiscation of real assets inherent in that system out of that evil place into the Western World. Duping kings and emperors, and modern-day self-serving politicians and businessmen, into debt and destruction for several centuries now.
It won't end well, but it will inevitably end.
Wouldn't need to nuke anyone else, at that point.
The Iranians are going to make Kerry the part Jewish all horse-face Sec of State look like a fool. He has ZERO chance of achieving anything positive for the West, simply because he was setup by the Iranians and Russians. Fool showed up at a gunfight with a jar of Vaseline and his ass hanging out of his chaps, instead of a tactical vest and a SIG. It really is too sad to be funny. If there is anything positive, he is less incompetent and possibly smarter than Hillary.
If there is anything positive, he is less incompetent and possibly smarter than Hillary.
Great line.
I'm gonna guess you think this is not deliberate.
There is an old saying:
You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it think.
You can lead a brain to knowledge, but you can't make it think.
"Give every nation nuclear weapons so they can protect themselves against the NWO."
That would not be a very "wise" move since the world is full of wack jobs that will use them. The more countries that have them, the higher the risks of a global nuclear war. All it would take is a Nuke false flag or rogue launch to kick off a full global nuke war. I fear we are already on the road to WW3 already, but I would prefer that we don't put the petal to the metal.
Listen.
You stupid Americans. Any idea how much radiation surrounds you from your own incompetence, and yes Fukushima is Americas fault(GE brought bad things to life).
http://enenews.com/fukushima-radiation-actually-high-california-coast-re...
Eat your California farm food America. Eat it real good.
What gives you the right to arb nukes?! FUCK YOU! At least your Cancer wards will be full soon.
No worries. If we get sneak-nuked, Ovomit will threaten to spank the perpetrators.....with his bare hands. That'll make 'em wish they hadn't messed with the USSA.
the guy on the right has a bag of oats under his coat.
that was Mighty Good!
these guys always carry snacks. there preppers.
Where, preppers?
the guy in the back has the bug out bags.
I think you missed something.
link?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQQtgx4iG8E
Which one has the saddle?
This could be another reason why the SCO expansion was delayed, to see how the nuclear talks with the west played out.
no. this all theatre. when kerry has a phone to his head, there is no one on the other end.
Since the Mullas will never give up trying to develope nukes, it's a 15 minute meeting. Kerry: "Dismantle your nuclear program or we will stand back while the Israelis bomb the fuck out of your ass" Netanyahu would prefer we do his dirty work but has repeatedly made it clear, either the US takes out Iran's nuke program or the Israelis will do it
You may well be right. But if that happens, Israel itself will pay a heavy price methinks.
And who would you rather pay the price for someone else's problem?
For me, Israel should reap what it sows.
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Yeah, sure, and unemployment is down, and Kiev isn't run by the CIA, and the US is approaching energy independence, and German gold is being repatriated from the NY Fed, and Russia has invaded Ukraine on a weekly basis, and the US government is only supporting moderate1 Syrian2 freedom-fighting3 rebels4, and every vote matters.
1 - extremist
2 - mostly non-Syrian
3 - oppressive
4 - invaders
Kerry: "Dismantle your nuclear program, even though it is constantly monitored by the IAEA and is in full compliance with your NNPT obligations, or the Israelis will carry out their blackmail threats against US politicians." - Fixed it for you.
The Israelis can't do it, not unless they employ the nuclear weapons which they neither confirm nor deny they possess. The resulting political, economic, and environmental consequences would spell the end for the Israel project.
"Russia has invaded Ukraine on a weekly basis"
ARGH! That's why nobody in MSM, Westminster, Brussels and Washington can say on what day Russia invaded Ukraine. Yes folks, it's because they're invading Ukraine EVERY WEEK.
Why didn't I spot that ;-)
There must be a tonnage of footage around ... ;-)
yep. they been saying this for 30 years.
double fucking post.
the only things owebombsaway has done right have to do with the times he didn't bomb someone. sad in a fascist sort of way really.
Kerry is a caricature!
Beats me how 2 of the 3 biggest nuclear threats get to choose who joins the party. IN SPECIFIC ORDER, USSA, ISRAEL & NORTH KOREA.
When i look at the above picture of Kerry the first thing that comes into my head is WASTE.
Waste of space and resources.
Waste of skin?
Wasted jaw bone.
I.B. - Where are you?
Israel will not wait for "talks" forever.........
They'll wait as long as they have to...attacking Iran is not like attacking Syria or Lebanon....the Iranians can and will fight back...and against Hezbollah the Israeli army has proven itself highly vulnerable.
Is that Kerry's stable in the background?
dog kennel (!)
Odd-looking feedbag used by the Secretariat of State.
Props to the stable hands - there's not a single road apple in sight.
Holy teeth(!) At this rate the West is gonna be "isolated".
Yikes, what then?
Perhaps Putin is there to put his signature on a mutual defense treaty between Russia and Iran.
No ketchup on the table?... oh wait....
Selling yellow cake is a confined niche market. We sold nuclear reactors to North Korea. Ask Donald Rumsfeld. Japan won’t buy new GE reactor technology because it failed warranty clause. Iran has some really good uranium technology development.
The Jews want to steal it via banking insolvency. Daily Jewlander MSM news, IRAN is building a bomb.
If all Americans broke into these Jewish homes it would be criminal. Stealing technology is OK. Bombing the Persians so Israeli’s can claim expansion and wealth. Where have we heard this before? Always 2 steps behind a gas chamber. Winks.
Looks like a secure line to the White House...
"The greatest accomplishment the devil has ever made , was to convince the people he did't exist"
as said above "Nuke israel first" + A fuckin trillion
When you're home/land is infested with rats you don't kill individual rats, you destroy their nests while they're in them
If the nuclear talks collapse completely - an outcome none of the parties wants - neither China nor Russia can stop the United States and European Union from taking unilateral steps outside the United Nations to expand the painful energy and financial sanctions that hobbled the Iranian economy since 2011.
And Yes... Again you heard in from HemrReuters!
Bwah Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha!!!!!!!!!!
More and more this seems like a kabuki theatre.
I do not think Israel will bomb them from airplanes, if they could`ve they already would, as they hit Assad at least twice and Osirak in the eighties.
There must be something, probably S-400/Pantyr/TunguskaM2 combo that makes them hesitate, they are very careful with their pilots.
Also, the Washington-TelAviv axis does not want the whole of southern Irak falling to iranians, as its happening atm.
Probably more blabbering, redlining and clock-dancing.
Oh well, more profits for Putin.
Yeah. I wonder what the IDF would do if they discovered a submarine or two 600 miles west of Tel Aviv. And they didn't know whether they were Russian, Chinese or Iranian.
And the Americans weren't sure.
And Italy reported spotting some others in the Tyrrhenian Sea.
What would Israel do? Play it's nuclear blackmail card?
Think again about the West relationship with Iran folks...
http://newworldorderg20.wordpress.com/2014/11/21/iran-firm-displays-us-made-robinson-helicopters/
http://newworldorderg20.wordpress.com/2014/11/18/u-s-uses-iran-airspace-for-15-flights-daily/
http://newworldorderg20.wordpress.com/2014/11/16/corps-are-gearing-up-for-reduced-u-s-and-e-u-sanctions-on-iran/
http://newworldorderg20.wordpress.com/2014/11/16/iran-to-begin-selling-nat-gas-to-the-e-u-in-2015/
http://newworldorderg20.wordpress.com/2014/11/16/italian-investors-are-ready-to-invest-in-iranian-projects-of-course/
http://newworldorderg20.wordpress.com/2014/11/16/mccain-helps-a-business-partner-of-iran-is-u-s-business-like-boeing-rethinking-iran/
http://newworldorderg20.wordpress.com/2014/11/11/boeing-back-to-business-in-iran/
Banking terrorism is the new branch of lucrative ROI. They're fucking done. They haven’t paid off the last taxpayer loans. Deep in debt dogshit, they play the game again. Hoping to repay old gambling debts using new fears. Good thing, we know where the DHS hollow point ammunition is stored. We also know where you live.
How clever, get this fixed immediately. Or face a silencer. You have fucked up this society, on a global scale!
Who could have guessed that the mullahs are registered commenters at zh?
Do you have something useful to say?
if so, that wasn't it.
Bumbu Sauce
I'm fourth generation Scottish American. Go suck on Soros dick and swallow his protein. You will not maintain the agenda.
Why not? The Western sheeple are registered.
LOL, This is just the public info for the sheeple that have been conditioned to believe anything. I would like to know the real story! I know it will never happen.
If you don't know the real story, then how can you say that this isn't it?
End this farce before Ovomit/Kerry give away the ranch. The mullahs don't intend to stop their quest for nuclear weapons. The only way to stop them is with physical force.
Ovomit doesn't have the stomach for it and all our adversaries know it.
If the bombing option was there, it would have been used by now.