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Least Transparent Ever: Obama Fighting to Prevent Release Of CIA Torture Report
Submitted by Mike Krieger via Liberty Blitzkrieg blog,
If you’re already reading this site, you don’t need me to tell you how much of a fraud Barack Obama is. His love affair with cronyism and devotion to lack of transparency has been documented in countless venues for many years now. Nevertheless, his actions continue to do irreparable harm to this nation, and as much as it has become a tedious affair at times, highlighting his hatred for justice remains an important job.
His latest intervention on behalf of the forces of opacity, revolves around the release of a report on CI.A. torture put together by The Senate Intelligence Committee, which is 6,000 pages long and has been five years in the making. Naturally, the Obama Administration is taking painstaking efforts to block its release.
The New York Times reports that:
WASHINGTON — In a tense confrontation with President Obama’s closest adviser on Thursday, a group of Senate Democrats accused the White House of trying to censor significant details in a voluminous report on the use of torture by the Central Intelligence Agency.
During a closed-door meeting on Capitol Hill with Denis R. McDonough, the White House chief of staff, the senators said that the White House was siding with the C.I.A. and trying to thwart negotiations over the report’s release. The negotiations have dragged on for months because of a dispute over the C.I.A.’s demand that pseudonyms of agency officers be deleted from the report.
The C.I.A., supported by the White House, has argued that even without using the real names of the officers, their identities could still be revealed.
Perhaps I missed something, but we are preventing the public from seeing the torture report to protect officers who may be guilty of war crimes? Absolute madness.
According to several people in attendance, the meeting was civil, but neither side gave ground, and it ended without resolution. The Senate Intelligence Committee spent five years working on the 6,000-page report, which is said to provide grim details about the torture of detainees in C.I.A. prisons during the Bush administration, and describe a persistent effort by C.I.A. officials to mislead the White House and Congress about the efficacy of its interrogation techniques. The committee voted this year to declassify the report’s executive summary, numbering several hundred pages, but the fight over redactions has delayed the release.
The confrontation on Thursday was a sign that Senate Democrats are worried that whatever leverage they have in having the report declassified on their terms is dwindling. Republicans will take control of the Senate in January, and the Intelligence Committee’s new leadership could choose to drag out the report’s release even longer. Most Republican members of the committee have long been opposed to the investigation — which they have said is a partisan attempt to discredit the Bush administration — although several committee Republicans voted in favor of declassifying the report’s executive summary.
Yep, rather than making things better, Republicans will make things worse. Big shocker.
With their time in power running out, some Democrats have suggested that they might take the extreme step of bypassing the executive branch and declassifying the report themselves. One option would be to use an arcane Senate procedure to release the report, and another would be to use the Constitution’s “speech or debate clause” to read it into the record from the Senate floor — an echo of 1971, when Senator Mike Gravel of Alaska read parts of the Pentagon Papers aloud in a Senate committee hearing.
Senator Mark Udall of Colorado, a Democratic member of the Intelligence Committee who recently lost a bid for re-election, suggested recently he might resort to this tactic.
Please, Mr. Udall, do it.
When the Senate began its investigation in 2009, the C.I.A. came up with the pseudonyms as a way to protect the true identities of undercover officers involved in the detention and interrogation program.
Some Senate Democrats argue that it is absurd for the C.I.A. to now try to keep those pseudonyms hidden from public view, saying that blacking out the names distorts the report’s narrative and hides the fact that some of the abuses were carried out by the same people who continued to be promoted within the C.I.A.
Protecting their own? Priority number 1. Protecting the citizenry and the rule of law? Irrelevant.
The protracted battle over the detention and interrogation report led to a separate dispute between the Intelligence Committee and the C.I.A. after senators accused the agency of spying on committee staff members working on the investigation. An inquiry by the C.I.A. inspector general found that several agency employees penetrated a computer network used by the Intelligence Committee and read the emails of the Senate investigators.
Protecting the criminals as usual. Just another day in Neo-Feudal America.
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If you like your torture, you may keep your torture.
We silenced some folks.
What's a little torture as long as no one gets hurt? Oh wait.
these guys better stay away from late model mercedes cars, avoid tall buildings, and watch out for nail guns...
Wait a second. In "Zero Dark Thirty" torture worked just great. What's the problem?
It's Bush's Fault.
And We sure as shit Don't want Our Culpability Known!
"...Senator Mark Udall of Colorado, a Democratic member of the Intelligence Committee who recently lost a bid for re-election, suggested recently he might resort to this tactic..."
If this guy is going all scorched earth, then you know he's really trying to out some higer-up Republican intelligence and defense lackeys. Those same lackeys are probably in the private sector by now, milking the government for millions.
Too bad the anti-christ Hillary is headed for the White House. If the democrats didn't have that going for them, they could have gone full retard and start ratting everyone out. Now THAT would be entertainment. I would subscribe to Pay Per View just to keep up on the treachery, back-stabbing, self-immolation and (best of all) nail-gun body count.
Historically, red/blue wars in America are EPIC!
Some folks got waterboarded or suicided, but the great American dream of peace and prosperity gives hope new arriving Americans can believe in.
My obligatory twist on Executive Orders and dictators.
When I'm elected President I will suspend all investigations regarding illegal weapons (because there is no such thing as an illegal weapon) and I'll lower everyones taxes by dictat.
Simply because I can.
Thanks Obama.
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When I'm elected President, the Dept of Education will be tasked with setting up public-private funding for incubating charter schools to become self-supported & funded within four years and new rules & regulations will be written for firing underperforming teachers & principals in all existing public schools.
When I'm elected President, the EPA will redefine CO2 back to the non-threatening gas it is, a property owner should never have to think a rotting tree on his or her property is a danger to the planet or subject to a fine.
Also when I'm elected President, I'm appointing someone as our UN ambassador befitting such an august, deliberative body, which will be Ron White and his dog Sluggo, who will amuse himself on the French ambassadors leg for hours on end.
Again, simply because I can.
Thanks Obama ;-)
nmewn, the difference is I would have reasonable cause to believe that you would follow through on your statements. Choomboy is as transparent as they come. If his mouth is open, he is lying.
Obama is the most fraudulent president since Nixon and LBJ. He has seriously (and perhaps permanently) damaged the USA's credibility. This is important, because it strips the USA of it's "soft power" and leaves only military, police and hard economic options. That loss of credibility extends to both the foreign and domestic spheres.
"We alienated some folks."
There may be an attempt to say that this was all Obama's fault and that the American "system" is not to blame. How to make that point effectively? The "system" must eject Obama in the same manner in which it ejected Nixon and LBJ. Resignation.
Looking at the last 14 years we have a system that produced Bush II then Obama without any "contrition." If Obama skates and Hillary or Jeb is elected. The "American brand" may be completely and permanently destroyed.
The real irony is this is a report of the CIA during the Bush years where Bush would be at fault, yet, Mister I Blame Bush for Everything is siding with Bush and the CIA. ???
What does the CIA have on O that he won't pile on Bush???
Honor among rats? It's self-protection among rats. Obama protects Bush, in anticipation that the next President will protect Obama. The same self-serving malfeasance occurs when judges protect judges, and/or cops protect cops.
The delusion of the sheeple is that honor exists within their chosen shepherds.
"What does the CIA have on O that he won't pile on Bush???"
LOL. What don't they have!! LOL.
time for another Nobel Peace Prize
You'll be able to rape, maim, kill, and burn at will in a few days but only in Ferguson. Take your frustrations out then, and only then so that the media can film the race baiter in chief's pet project and put the appropriate spin on it.
Obama is also fighting hard to not end up last in his foursome with Jeter and the other two dicks.
A-Rod!
A-Rod!
A-Roid
more to come in 2015 .. http://hedgeaccordingly.com/2014/11/obama-expands-u-s-afghanistan-role-r...
Jesus - the U.S. lost the Afghanistan war. Why doesn't Obama and the CIA just give up?
The government is beyond corrupt and on the verge of collapse (I mean Afghani, but that applies to the U.S. more and more). The U.S. just found the most competent least incompetent corrupt psychopathic oligarchs to run the fake U.S. puppet regime, but they don't have a strong enough gang or the willingness to control the whole country. The Taliban will control any territory they want in a few months.
The vets coming back from Afghanistan all say the same thing: the only way for the U.S. to control Afghanistan is to permanently occupy it. Any place there is no American or British presence, the Taliban move right back in.
The people there just want to be left the hell alone - they're tired of being saved.
Total global domination. This is the sadness that effects power. Most rational people dont try to ditctate the lives of others (mothers being the exeption).
After you take a step back and look at all of this, you see only fear. Not money, not property, not even humanity. Just Fear.
Then you see these people are rightly scared, for they and there children shall be punished for these and there fathers sins.
Hunger Games here we come. Nice to talk with you folks before our districts are cut off and isolated.
Opium trade is worth billions. CIA would never give it up, afterall drug trafficing pays all their black operations.
"If you've got a business [torturing people to death]—you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen [the CIA cattle prodders and water boarders]." Correct, gauleiter Obummer.
Torture: The only bi-partisan topic in Washington. How shameful my country is.....
We tortured some "folks". That's all we need to know according to Obama.
In the end, even Udall will toe the Chalky line here and pass away from view like a nice, utterly uselss Senator that he is. Does Emperor Goebbels have dirt on every Dem?
www.traderzoo.mobi
Who's number one?
NSA NSA NSA
"We tortured some folks."
Obama's first job out of college was working for a CIA front company - Business International Corporation. And he conveniently forgot to mention that company in his 456 page autobiography "Dreams from My Father."
Obama has Prosecuted More Whistleblowers than All Other Presidents COMBINEDhttp://www.washingtonsblog.com/2012/04/obama-has-prosecuted-more-whistle...
Less transparent than mud but keep up the audacity of hope.
Well, I know who the IRS is going to audit this year...
Barry's Epitaph ; He Came, He FUCKED UP BAD , He Went.
@WTFUD
Thats nice, you think he'll go in 2016.
Tyranny's call is that Obama will still be in office after the inauguration in January 2017. We'll be able to test his prediction in just 14 more months.
I will take the other side of his bet and venture that Obama will no longer be in office after the next presidential inauguration. Not a very extreme position, I know, so I'll give Tyranny five to one odds: 5 silver eagles to him if he's right, 1 silver eagle to me if I'm right.
"Our" Presidents will continue to get worse right up until there are no more Presidents.
i think he is the last one
I live in Georgia, but I'd move in a heartbeat:
http://www.cnbc.com/id/102021344
Bring. It. On.
is that because you think that they wouldn't try to cover up torture in the Republic of Texas?
It's because I think secession is the only way forward, the American Imperium collapsing as we speak and doomed to follow its Soviet predecessor into the dustbin of history.
I know he thinks he's the last one for sure.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_office/TransparencyandOpenGovernment
Nothing is covered up that will not be revealed, or hidden that will not be known. Luke 12:2
I find it a fact that whatever I do that is sin, slips out of my mouth or I am caught unawares and someone figures the matter out, thus it is exposed; as to what happens as a result, that is of course no concern to me. The point is you can't keep your shit secret. You may complain about justice isn't served, but that is a matter of your own personal judgment.. and we are directed not to judge, nor condemn.
Deathbed confessions? I find that everyone has one.
The question is who's authority matters with regard to forgivness.. sure makes it easier on the conscience to confess your faults to one another (a verse in James says that) but even that takes a certain amount of faith. Can anyone confess every sin? Are they not too many to number?
With regard to politicians, and corporations, likewise everything they intend to do or legislate into law "IS" also exposed, thus it is possible for a person to "see" into the intent of the matter. As to whether or not a certain "conspiracy" will manifest is an accusation that is rarely justified, because the future hasn't happened yet, and there is always a chance that we just say no, i'm not stealing my neighbors guns from him, and it doesn't take much to stop half a town from murdering the other half of the town.. (on the other hand, apparently it doesn't take much to make such an event happen either, we are all very shitty individuals at heart).
To characterize all individuals as 'very shitty at heart' one would first need to know the entire lives of all individuals that one is attempting to characterize as 'shitty'. You could not possibly get enough information to engage in that kind of generalization based on anecdotal evidence.
Moreover, if you actually read the entire Bible you will understand how Christians are indoctrinated into faith through the methodology of scripture and the words of the Bible. Faith is conditioned through reading the message of the Bible and the 'word of God' through Christ's
spoken words in the Bible. Faith is a process of discovery that takes a number of months of serious study of the Bible IMO. Faith requires an understanding of epistemology before one can ascertain if faith is legitimate from a perspective of the scientific method or empirical logic. It helps to have a good grasp of the brain, personality, psychopathology, and especially epistemology. Metaphysics is good background before reading the Bible as well. Faith is perhaps the most difficult concept in the whole Bible, but that is how one is to interpret the Christain religion and Christianity proper. Lastly, one can test the notions of faith and the concept of faith whilst immersed in study of religion and the Bible itself. God tests human beings on questions of faith and so too can we test God's reaction on that sort of subject matter. As a hard core empiricist I determined that God does indeed exist, but I am unable to prove that empirically and you will just have to take my word for it if you don't want to read the entire Bible to see for yourself. Frankly, the Bible is a well read book that is worth reading front to back so one understands what people of faith are on about when they disclose their belief in such an entity. The Bible is read and studied all over the world and every university in the world has a department of Religion that conducts more indepth study beyond mere historiography. Man lives via belief
and not bread alone.
Bible has that covered man, Jeremaiah 17:9.
As to the confessing of sins requiring faith, absolutely does. I don't believe confessing faults to one another heals the person because James says so, i find that it works, therefore i believe. (the concept probably has a few old T witnesses as well.)
referance for context of prior comment http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jedwabne_pogrom
WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE?
“What I think is absolutely true is it’s not sufficient for citizens to just take my word for it that we’re doing the right thing,”
Barack Obama, February 13, 2013
Some folks got tortured
Some folks got Ebola
Some folks got their life savings stolen
Some folks got killed by Mexicans using our guns
Some folks can't afford health insurance
Some folks got droned
Some folks lied, but not me
Some folks ain't gonna be prosecuted to nothing
Some folks would be like my son if I had a son
Some folks won't be bothered because they golfing.
Some folks voted for Choomboy twice.
Some folks are getting exactly what they deserve.
Voting is the mistake, not who is voted for.
I don't know who downvoted you so hard Logic. +1 to even up the balance and for speaking the truth. Seems we have a new breed washing up on these shores of late, it's beyond me why they can't see the futility of participating in a broken criminal system in the hope that it can be fixed on its own terms. The last Rep government presided over this concentration camp, now the Dems do the same. Do these voters not realise that they are personally responsible for ongoing human rights violations?
and some folks didn't read the article closely enough to see that this goes beyond the right-left divide.
crony capitalism and satanic republic with dictator - new normal
Hey,I`m all for releasing the names of some 25 year old agency type for pouring Pepsi up some rag head`s nose,but don`t you dare go after Jamie Dimon for massive corruption and running his con game in DC. and wall street.Never go after your campaign donors when it is just so much more fun to fuck with the agency and pontificate from your lofty hypocritical positions.God,I hate these people!
Both of the things you mention are criminal acts.
The problem the world has is that the law is not applied symmetrically.
If I print paper that is identical to the paper printed by the government/banks, they'll put me behind bars.
Not because my paper is worth less than theirs, but because they hate competition.
If I demand money with a threat, it's called robbery or extortion. If the government do it it's called tax.
We don't have a system of law, we have a legal system. BIG difference.
Barry wasn't working hard enough to stop the release of information
So they sent a guy over the fence all the way into the Whitehouse past the non-existent security to send him a message to stop it or the next time they would JFK or RFK him
Y'all be nice. He's just trying not to get MLK'd.
Obomba is the cowardly lion
Don't criticize the puppet. Criticize the puppeteer.
Well at least we know "Lady Macbeth" is consistent!
She's been washing her hands so much these last 6 years pruney doesn't begin to describe them.
She's also been big on teaching AG Holder her technique for the rest of the DOJ on how to "out the damn spots"...
The pre-programmed Manchurian, or should I say Indonesian Candidate, where both Geithner's father and Obama's mother both worked for a CIA front organization. Barry, the perfect Fascist, while maintaining the Marxist credentials and illusion for the deluded Far Left. If the uber liberals ever discovered how much they've been had, they would all commit suicide.
Those who serve in the highest levels of government are only ideologues as far as it takes them to greater power. The CIA is no different that the State department or the department of education, they all seek to use ideology to enhance and enable their powers. If Obama is a Marxist, it is only because Marxism provides the surest path to power. True ideologues are simply the useful idiots that provide the lever to a greater concentration of power.
apberusdisvet,
Did you read the article carefully enough to see that Obama's admin. is covering up torture perpetrated during Bush's admin? This is not about Obama or a right-left divide. Both the Dems and the Repubs seem to become authoritarians in the White House.
"His authoritarian style, characterized by patronage, favouritism, tribalism and/or nepotism drew criticism and dissent, and set a bad example followed by his successors. He had the Constitution radically amended to expand his powers, consolidating executive power"
Jomo Kenyatta or Barack Obama? The Kenyan dreams from his father are strong in this one.
Frank Marshall Davis wasn't from Kenya was he?
There is other things more important that are being withheld
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/12/23/aipac911saudi/Why would AIPAC protect Saudis from 9/11 probe?
Now a new 9/11 mystery has arisen in Washington: Why hasn’t Congress quickly responded to last week’s emergency request by Congressmen Stephen Lynch (D-MA) and Walter Jones (R-NC) for a Congressional resolution demanding that President Obama declassify the full Joint Congressional Report on 9/11?
Lynch and Jones termed the redacted material, which was classified by former President Bush in 2002, as “shocking.” They confirmed what Senator Bob Graham, Chair of the Joint 9/11 Investigation, had already revealed: The report implicates one or more foreign intelligence agencies in the planning and execution of the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon.
In other words, Bush hid the fact that one or more foreign countries attacked the US on 9/11. His pretext: “National security.” But how could concealing the true identities of the 9/11 perpetrators possibly protect national security?!
And Saudi Arabia wouldn't be "shocking"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgzkU4mmEdk'Jewish NeoCons' Responsible For Iraq War MSNBC
Published on Jul 26, 2013
Published on May 4, 2013
On Morning Joe, an honest and courageous Carl Bernstein says that because he's Jewish, he could be permitted to reveal on national television that "Jewish" neo-cons were responsible for persuading President George W. Bush into starting an "insane" war against Iraq.
Well at least we can all still joke about it.........
Unless the Hedge is secretly a honeypot, in which case I'll see you guys at the FEMA camp!
David Addington was responsible for the George Bush torture regime
through a lack of oversight in terms of how legislators are allowed to circumvent the American Constitution through executive privilege in the Oval office. Addington broke every law on the books for the international community when it comes to war and invasion of countries. Wofowitz, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Bush, et cetera, were principle architects, but Addington was the motherfucker that knew what he was doing was inherently unprofessional and would later be revealed as criminal wrongdoing and human rights abuse by peer review throughout the world. Addington is never mentioned by media whores or even alternative media from what I have read. The American people need to focus on exactly what David Addington did to the reputation of Americans throughout the world. "We the people" need to focus on who it was that should have known better when it comes to 'torturing folks' for Capitalist profit margin.
torture= dick cheney
It will reveal Obama pretty much continued Bush's black site rendentions and torture methods. He's lied about everything. Why not this?
O'barecrack is worried that if the report gets released they'll staple a copy of his real birth certificate to it.
And a copy of his college transcripts.
Can't he go back to Kenya and torture them for a while.
Torture is a tortured subject. Lets focus on bigger issues. Exactly how many have been tortured ( and I think we are using that term rather loosely if judged on a historical basis) compared to the hundreds of thousands dead in this "war on terror"?
That said, I would suspect that there is more at stake than simply torture, some reason why this has been set on so hard.
This is the kind of stuff that gets people killed.
Just think: whoever created, enforced, participated, supported, and covered up torture, secret prisons, indefinite detentions, kidnppings and assassinations has not changed their modus operandi. These people, who would do this to force their way upon others, will certainly do the same again to anyone, in order to prevent becoming known and made culpable for the consequences of these misdeeds.
The revelations within the 9/11 report that President Bush suppressed, contain damaging dislosure and eveidence of the involvement of one perhaps two foreign powers. These can only be Israel and/or Saudi Arabia. The involvement of more than one allows each to deny involvement altogether. The exposure of one will lead to the exposure of the other.
People in high places do not want to fall from those high places, Literally and Figuratively. They simply won't let these reports to be made public.
Waterboard the little Kenyan maggot, he'll become transparent.
When you buy a slave, you own it...
wait, wait..
when saddam uses chemical weapons, it's evil
when we use chemical/nuclear (depleted uranium) weapons its to fight evil.
when North Korea imprisons, it's human rights violation.
when we imprison more than China and put 300%+ of design capacity, it's not a problem its for public safety.
when Syria tortures, it's bad.
when we torture, it's good.
when Myanmar / Thailand imposes martial law it's evil.
when we impose martial law (New Orleans / Ferguson / Boston during the bombings) it's righteous.
hmmmm....
only one word to describe this moron - a**hole