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NATO Jets Surrounding Russia: Before And After
Based on the following "before" and "after" the Ukraine crisis pictures of NATO warplanes located just off the Russian border...
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After:
... one can almost understand why Victoria Nuland was so eager to tell the EU to "fuck off" in her successful attemp to foment Ukraine unrest leading to the overthrow of ex-president Yanukovich, and destabilize the region, giving NATO a pretext for a major arms build up on the other side of the Russian border.
Per CNN, "There used to be only four jets ready to intercept Russian planes that crossed into European airspace. Now there are 18." And rising.
As for what the US response would be if Russia were to park a few squadrons of Mig-35s in Cuba, Canada and Mexico, we leave that to the reader's imagination.
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The air wing of the armed wing of the Fed
Are you ready for the third world war?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZAx1BBw9hI
Two squadrons of aircraft ain't much to start a war with.....
Wait until Putin shines a little EMP light on those fireflies.
What goes up, must come down.
18 jets?
WTF
18 jets is nothing, that's barely enough to serve a tripwire interceptor role. Calling that a "build-up" is hysterical. It's like going from practically nothing to practically nothing. Given Russia's aggressive flights on the edge of or just in NATO country airspace recently, it's only appropriate to beef up patrols.
The Russian flights are meant to signal to NATO that Russia is done letting them encroach their sphere of influence, and the NATO patrols are meant to signal to Russia that it will defend all NATO members, including the Baltic states.
mergers and acquisitions in defense contractorizing
http://i.imgur.com/pnHfKum.png
But the MSMedia said the west is a victim of Russian aggression?
We are.
The problem is the MSM is covering up the fact that Obama just loves having Putin shove his cock down Obama's throat with the intent of tickling his uvula.
Surrounded....by the 18 plane air armada of the Cannucks, Portagese, Germans, and Dutch. I'm sure the Russians are shitting bricks.
NAPOLEON tried it...
HITLER tried it....
Hey, THIS TIME IS DIFFERENT!
YOU HIT THE NAIL!
You make all the sense. It is all about grabing natural resources. The west never stops to blame others for many false flags.
http://www.veteransnewsnow.com/2014/11/21/511858-all-out-war-in-ukraine-...
good article and the guy has written a bunch of good books, which you can see links for at the bottom
WWIII Kickstarter Update
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuDuu662jlI
Russia has hundreds of jets of equal or superior technology all along the border. As well as third generation Crusie missiles, far superior to antiquated US missiles and tactical nukes.. So I don't think Putin is shaking in his Cossack boots...
While I don't care for US interventionism all over the globe, I don't care for Russian interventionism either. He's no better than American fascists. Fuck him too.
Putin is the new "hitler" and I mean that in a positive manner (do your research not the wests propaganda shit either) you will see where good old Vlad is getting his "playbook" from this is nothing new same game different players (roosevelt / hitler = obola / putin) and maybe this time it will be fucking different because if its not this is the final curtain ...no fucking encore this time !! can you say endgame ? 35 years of researching the last 100 years of wars tells me I'm right.
heres a good way to get ya started in the right direction if ya really care
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vnu5uW9No8g or http://thegreateststorynevertold.tv/
The entire Portuguese air force, aka FAP, deployed to the front so that the americans can pay for the maintenance and upgrade the hardware.
Smart move!
Memo to House N@gger from Fed Reserve re failing ponzi usd scheme:
Obama, we. need. moar.war.
If Putin were to read this article about 18 NATO jets "surrounding" Russia, he would probably die from laughter.
This is slightly off topic, but computers are now weapons of war.
https://recode.net/2014/11/23/symantec-uncovers-sophisticated-stealthy-c...
He might not be laughing about this.
AWESOME!
We've deployed aircraft of the same technological equivalent of what Europe gave Poland in early 1939!
Hey, I've got a great idea! Let's ship over some artillery shells from WWII and Korea also!
Hmmmmm. What do you suppose Supreme Commander Rothschild has planned?
This:
but:
I hope I live long enough to see the Red Shield chaps get a punch in th mouth.
No shit - Rockefeller actually said that. Unfortunately, less than 1% of 1% of 1% of people understand how fd up that is.
What is weird is what happened about 2 months ago - David Rockfeller son died in a plane crash. He flew his turboprop down from Maine to have dinner with his father.
The son was a doctor. My guess is this may have been one of his favorite kids cause the rest probably do not want to have dinner with him. The plane crashed on takeoff in drizzly weather. I assume his son as a doctor was pretty bright. He probably checked out his plane and was a competent pilot.
What better way to kill the old man then kill his, probably, favorite son. The old man will be miserable in his few final days until he is judged and all that money is not getting him to heaven, if it exists.
So who did it? Red Shield? There is a war between oil and the banksters. Rockfellers are banksters too but more oil.
The war pigs have been flying their war jets over my area in Japan starting two weeks ago. Never heard them before. Don't know if it's US or Japanese Air Force. Maybe they are readying the population. Fucking people who think they need to control other people. I hate them all. Maybe I should move to New Zaeland.
Ever hear of Nuclear Winter?
Yeah. It is a great show.
It is coming to a theater near you. I will open in New Zealand also. It will just take a little more time as to the lower Southern Latitudes.
But perhaps, for your entertainment, you need to see the prequel movie, "On the Beach".
Here is a link for your viewing pleasure.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjt8jAh_OBo
It is 3 Hours if you have the attention span.
the same thing he (they) had planned at the onset of WWI and WWII the complete destruction of a soviergn country who doesn't wanna be in-debted and controlled with fiat debt based bullshit ...gee theres a fuckin surprise huh?
keep plugging away cause every buck ya take/make puts ya 2 bucks in debt ....round and round we go straight to the bottom and some still believe ya can fix this shit... keep dreaming ...clowns
One other note Ukraine is Putins Poland if ya don't know what that infers go find out
Meanwhile, the Russians have developed an entirely new echelon of tactical nuckear weapons, while we have decommissioned tons of our ageing materiel, in accordance with the treaties we both signed. Additionally, our SAC infrastrcture has been allowed to go to hell in a handbasket, with three bases sharing one wrench, no possibility of promotion, rampant cheating on exams, blast doors that don't function properly, etc.--which has led to the sacking of numerous SAC high and low command. Morale has sunk to epically low depths. It apparently has finally reached Hagel's pearly ears, and he has pledged to fund a 10% increase in the SAC budget to address these issues, as if that's going to do anything. The Navy, as usual, remains the fair haired child, and its sub teams still funcction at optimal levels, primarily because the subs themselves are nuclear. Yet the Russians recently owned one of our battleships in the Black Sea--totally disabled it electronically, and sent it packing, once they allowed it to recover. Note that last phrase carefully. It is of utmost importance. That incident has very dire implications.
The incident was reported on worldwide coverage very briefly, with zero analysis, as usual.
Both Suvorov and Golitsyn insisted that a) the "collapse", while temporarily necessary, was being used as a ruse, to misdirect the West, and that b), the Russians always had long term plans for a first strike. They were essentially ignored, and even discredited, by the same intelligence agencies that had vetted them as genuine defectors. One has to wonder why, particularly now.
I would suggest that rattling sabers while sabers is all one has to offer to Darth Vader is a losing proposition.
And how do you know the story about the ship is true ?
It's a true story. All the Russian newspapers carried it, and every Russian military official we could find told us the exact same story! Pravda! Da!
PTI,
http://www.infowars.com/russians-disable-u-s-guided-missile-destroyer/
It was a destroyer or really a missile frigate not a battleship. I am not sure where you get your stuff.
I do believe the Russians used some for of EMP on the ship or some weird way of hacking the computers on the ship to shutdown everything like a stuxnet wrom.
As far as the US Military? All they care about is budgets. Until they start to defend The Constitution and their oath to protect America from foreign AND domestic enemies then who cares. We see what did get blown up and maimed in the banksters wars. They give em a service dog and a pat on the back.
Any parent who let's their kid enlist or go to college and take on insane debt is guilty of child abuse.
"In October 2006, the last battleships, (USS Iowa and USS Wisconsin), were stricken from the Naval Registry." wiki
u.s. navy has no battleships.
fdr was sacrificing them in '41; the aircraft carriers were at sea "on maneuvers".
America used Battleships in World War II, the Korean War, the Vietnam War, and both Gulf War I and II.
Two classes of Battleships were in heavy production during World War II. The Iowa Class was the Heavy Battleship. (USS Missouri ws an Iowa Class Battleship). Then we already had some, and were building more, of the smaller Battleships of the South Dakota Class at the time of Pearl Harbor.
We were being "compliant" to the Washington Naval Treaty of 1922, modified by the London Naval Treaty of 1930 and the Second London Naval Treaty of 1936.
(Actually we cheated with the construction of the Aircraft Carriers, Lexington and Saratoga. Nothing is new under the sun. They were both built upon Heavy Cruiser Hulls and bothe were still armed with Four Turrets with 8 inch Cannon and were both overweight...but...we lied as to their displacement.)
As for the relics sunk in Pearl Harbor most were refloated and engaged the Japanese Forces in the Battle of Leyte Gulf.
The Battleships sunk at Pearl Harbor were already obsolete and were all built for World War I operations. That is why they were "sacrificed" though most were refloated and fought again.
As the Southern Force approached the Surigao Strait, it ran into a deadly trap set by the 7th Fleet Support Force. Rear Admiral Jesse Oldendorf had a substantial force. There were six battleships: West Virginia, Maryland, Mississippi, Tennessee, California, and Pennsylvania; all but Mississippi had been sunk or damaged in the attack on Pearl Harbor and since repaired, Tennessee, California, and West Virginia having been rebuilt since then.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Leyte_Gulf#The_Battle_of_Surigao_Strait_.2825_October.29
All Warships are "battleships" colloquially speaking. That CRITICISM WAS UNFAIR. Most have no clue about Naval Ship Technical Classifications. Not one in a hundred can differentiate between a Guided Missile Cruiser, a Guided Missile Destroyer and a Guided Missile Frigate...which are current classifications.
But since you posted the nonsense that you did then maybe you ought to read up on the Battle for Surigao Strait, an operation in the Battle of Leyte Gulf...and realize how full of shit that you are when you wrote that the Battleships at Pearl were "sacrificed" by FDR.
So BULL...FUCKING...SHIT. Our War Department did not even begin to realize the utility of Aircraft Carriers until after hostilities began in World War II. We learned about this in the School of Hard Knocks....after we had "lost" the Battleships of the Pacific Fleet.
BTW...The Enterprise and Hornet were delivering aircraft to Wake Island and to the Phillipines. Saratoga was off the Pacific Coast near San Diego, California when the Pearl Harbor attack happened.
THOSE TASK FORCES WERE OUI COMPLETING A TASK AND NOT ON MANUEVERS. AGAIN THAT IS ANOTHER LINE OF BULLSHIT.
The Enterprise, with her support screen. went to Wake Island. The Hornet, with her support screen, went to Manila in the Phillipine Islands...TO DELIVER FIGHTERS. They were two separate Task Forces.
Enterprise was scheduled to be in port on Saturday December 6th, but a storm had delayed her arrival.
Two of her scout aircraft were shot down on the night of December 7th, 1941, and the pilots were killed. The USS Enterprise arrived December 8th to a ghastly scene.
Bill Halsey ordered her to take on supplies and out back to sea.
Is there anything else that you'd like to know about US Naval History...Don't be coy. I will be more than happy to write.
Toss in a couple of plane loads of K-rations from the same era. Whowee-woo that ought to scare the knickers off them. Milestones
Good one this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ux3oiWELIQ
I said this before and I’ll say it again:
The Emperor (US) has no clothes. Its Satellite States (Great Britain, Germany, Israel, and Japan) should be renamed Zimbabwe 1, 2, 3, and 4.
The King next door (Russia), that NO one ever seems to conquer, now possesses its Mithridates (Putin). So, watch out!
US big loss was Syria. Ukraine involvement was desperation; and it failed, as well.
I will be really worried at the next mistake (next US loss). I think it will be a market crash (2016), followed by the dollar collapse as the Reserve Currency.
So, a war in Europe, and inland, these will be good news for the US, the dollar, and China; because Russia will become even more dependent on China.
But, if the US loses ships; and China takes Russia's side… I would strongly recommend that you moved out of US cities.
Anyway, for whatever its worth:
The next 2008/2009 (market crash) I have it for 2016/2017
The next 1973 (oil crisis) I have it for 2019. But, this time, we won’t be able to recover.
The next 1963 (civil rights movement for equality) I have it for 2018. But it won’t matter, because it will happen on the big cities; and, it’ll be too late to make a difference.
“United States is becoming a failed state, and thus a danger to its own people and the world.” – Noam Chomsky, 2006
The RoW will not wait that long.
Why face a competent puppet when you make your move ?
Obozo is too good an opportunity to miss, either he is totally incompetent, or deliberately
sabotaging his masters wishes.Either way, its now ,ready or not,or WWIII later.
Two things:
I don’t agree that Obama is incompetent, but I’ll say this: It’s not incompetency that’s going to trigger a war in Europe thus WW-3 (2022/2025). Anyway, war is a given, later on.
What will trigger an earlier WW-3 will be an US miscalculation. Russia will never start WW-3. They have NO reason to.
I disagree. Russia has every reason to engage in war.
While their lands are vast and they have Mineralogical and Energy resources it is the expense of extraction which makes that prohibitive.
When the USA continues upon her advances in strengthening her empire she continues to consume limited Natural Resources inexpensively due to lower technology requirements because of the temperate climates where these resources are extracted... (The bulk of Russia's Mineral Resoutces are in the Permafrost tundra of Siberia.)
Russia also needs these same "Low Fruit" resources in order for sustinence. (The Lowest Fruit is picked first as it requires the least effort and energy.) Russia also needs to be able to economically extract resources or they will be non competitive and starve.
But the American Empire is competitive and does not allow for that. He whom grabs the fastest grabs the most. It is not that I necessarily support that attitude. But it is the reality which needs be dealt with.
This gives Russia every incentive to engage in Hot War. A Hot war is a strategy which quenches the insatiable needs of the United States, concurrently, with also quenching the ability of the United States to realize those needs fulfilled,
The only way that Russia will be able to stop the Americans is to engage them in a Hot War.
Unfortunately for all involved that will become an eventuality.
Who pushes that button first, in retaliation, or, preemptively, is really immaterial.
Russia has every incentive to engage in a Hot War.
ALL WARS ARE ECONOMIC EVENTS. I rarely use that word, "ALL".
Wrong! Russia has all the resources needed to sustain itself. Putin knows, just like many of us here, that the "game" is collapsing on itself. Putin and Russia will just sit back and watch. Having an understanding of history is vital to making predictions. I don't think you have it.
Wrong. While Russia has MANY of the Natural Resources needed to sustain herself it is a matter of cost to obtain that which she lacks.
In fact Russia LACKS in one resource. ARABLE LAND. She cannot produce the crops to feed herself. She must import them. Now the Ukraine was once a part of the Soviet Union. It used to produce the CROPS for the USSR. Yet, even then, the former USSR had periods of GREAT FAMINE.
Do you know your history? It is not just a matter of History. Do you know anything about GEOGRAPHY?
So Russia, because of her LATITUDE must IMPORT FOOD. To do that she must produce goods and services in order to TRADE for food. (Other than that she can steal it through warfare.)
Just what does Russia currently produce? I have not seen ANY "Made in Russia" tags in any store where I have shopped. In fact CHINA is the producer of many finished goods here in the USSA. It is likewise in Russia.
So Russia must trade Oil and other Natural Resources for food. In the long run that is what happens.
So how much does it COST to obtain those Mineralogical and Petrochemical Deposits underneath the Siberian Tundra and in the Ural Mountain Range? In other words...What is the EROEI?
Energy Returned over Energy Invested. (EROEI) Have you ever heard of that term?
Do you know the reason that the US Dollar has any value whatsoever? Just what is the US Dollar backed by? Saudi Oil.
Without OPEC backing the US Dollar would have died 35 to 40 years ago. The US Dollar is Energy backed and currently the World's Reserve Currency. The reason that we can export US Dollars is because there is a Demand for them. The reason why there is a demand for them is that they are Oil Backed.
Saudi is part of the American Empire. Hell most of the Middle East is.
So you tell me how easy is it to drill in -40o weather? (Centigrade is equal to Farenheit at that point so I will not differentiate.) It is one hell of a lot easier to drill in the 40oC Desert Sands of the Arabian Peninsula than it is to drill in the -40oC Permafrost of the Siberian Tundra.
It takes ENERGY to keep that equipment heated. It takes ENERGY to keep those workers living. It takes even more ENERGY to HEAT THAT OIL underground as at Permafrost Temperatures the Oil just does not flow too easily. It is sludge. It takes even more ENERGY to run those pumps to pump that sludge. It is not viscous.
There is a much greater cost incurred to pump out Oil from the Arctic Siberian Tundra.
ANY wise businessman will know that to realize greater profits one must optimize the costs of production.
So what is the EROEI for Siberian Oil? Is it much more expensive to produce a Barrel of Oil out of the Siberian Tundra versus that same barrel from underneath the sands of Arabia?
Putin cannot compete with a flood of Saudi Oil. The expenses are too high. That is the reason that the flood of Saudi Oil onto World Markets in 1986 helped to collapse the Soviet Empire. That is also why the Saudi flooding of Oil onto the World Market TODAY will bring the Russian Federation to her knees.
I do not believe that Putin will sit back and watch the destruction of the Economy of his Nation.
He must choose Hot War.
So enjoy your destruction.
Let me correct a statement for you. You wrote, "I don't think you have it."
You just needed to write, "I do not think." That is actually more accurate and truthful.
You are blinded by your condescending arrogance.
Tall Tom, congratulations, great job. I've rarely seen such a flawed analysis. Virtually each point you make rests on a fallacy or a misunderstanding.
I'm not even going to give you any advice, like "read" or "learn history", or even "get your information straight so you don't pass for a fool", for instance about your wild assertion according to which Russia has "no arable land and must import its food, and that Ukraine was, blah blah blah".
Quote,
"Russia has the potential to double its grain harvest. The country has 115m hectares of agricultural land, of which 25m hectares are idle. I think we can reap between 150-170m tonnes of grain, compared with 85-90m tonnes in recent seasons, by putting it into use, introducing new production methods and better management systems. By 2012, Russia had become the world’s fifth largest wheat exporter and our land availability means there is further room for growth."
http://www.fwi.co.uk/arable/the-future-of-farming-in-russia.htm
I'm going instead to say, please stay as you are. We need people like you (though not too many) for our daily good laughs.
Agree...that is ignorant talkings
There is much easy to find on internet that disputes such wrong ideas...
Though I suppose Bloomberg, NYT, and other anti Russia lies otherwise
There is huge amount idle land. More goes into production.
I was offered as much as 50.000 Hectare a few years back, basically freepay up to 50 year.
At that time, President Putin had been to fields visit wth Farmers. He showed real knowledge of subject.
Infrastructure was bad still, but already outsiders were taking opportunity. I remember one was English based
opening land in Perm area.
Since there has been much taken up and new John Deere dealerships, etc.
I still have the connections for that opportunity.
Consultant to Russian Govt, Grain Agent, Local connections and other in Volga Regions
So what your saying is to defeat America all Russia has to do is destroy the saudis oil fields? Considering the threats the Saudis have made against Russia that may be a clear explanation of why the king of the north will invade the ME and destroy the daughter of Babylon (i.e. Saudi Arabia). Would not the kings of the Earth and all its merchant wail and howl at the rising pillar of smoke ? Hmmm I wonder if the kings of the east (i.e. China and company) would march across asia to reach the ME to grab their part? Hmmmm. We sure do live in interesting times. Hedge accordingly. Really all Russia would have to do to stop US interference is to EMP us. They have already proven they can knock out our ships systems, wonder what else they can do?
Wrong.
Russia has huge amount idle land.
Now being opened.
ignorant post
I can see that as a reasonably accurate interpretation - pretty messed up shit
I hope your right I need to get some things done in 2015 ... stack jack
the image is from
http://www.dtic.mil/ndia/2004munitions/Chao.pdf
The Health of the U.S. Defense Industry “In the Eye of a Perfect Storm” Pierre A. Chao Senior Fellow and Director Defense-Industrial Initiatives 202-775-3128 pchao@csis.org National Defense Industrial Association 2004 Munitions Executive Summit Tampa, FL February 19, 2004 February 19, 2004
russia's sphere of influence...what if russia's neighbors used this bullshit concept? you're really an idiot if you believe in that shit.
soon more countries will have JASSM missiles and their own missile defence shields. bit by bit russia will get mitigated.
And then the Utopia envisioned for us by the FEDs handlers will have more freedom to emerge in all its splendor
How do you mitigate a nuclear power with Boomers sitting 30 miles offshore?
Like America's sphere of influence? We threatened a nuclear war when they put missiles in Cuba because that was our sphere of influence. We bitch about Russian warships in the Gulf of Mexico while we send our warships into the Black Sea.
the u.s. sphere of influence goes from venus to mars.
nearly as big as a politician's ego.
You're really an idiot if you believe in that shit.
Soon more countries will have non-dollar denominated trade and their own alternative to SWIFT. Bit by bit the USSA will be marginalized.
Listen Dermas.
"appropriate to beef up patrols."
Let's rewrite that to be more sensitive to all readers.
"it's only appropriate to increase patrols".
Better.
fuck sensitivity
Fuck you and your "listen" bullshit. Go back to the slum.
Fucking slumdog.
"Given Russia's aggressive flights on the edge of or just in NATO country airspace recently, it's only appropriate to beef up patrols."
Yes, sure. One wonders what's with Russia, that it should cheekily build its country so close to Nato bases.
"and the NATO patrols are meant to signal to Russia that it will defend all NATO members,"
Great.
Defend against who?
Non-NATO Ukraine. The crowds have gone wood-chipper:
Anti-Government Protest Forces Biden to Skip a Kiev Stop
Only matter of time before helicopters will be evacuating US embassy staff from the rooftops in Kiev.
That would be a positive development for Ukrainians.
It took Vietnam a decade or two to recover AFTER we bailed out of there, our CIA puppet government was overthrown and the South Vietnamese oligarchs took their loot and ran. No reason to believe it would happen any faster in Ukraine even if some kind of miracle happened there.
Since the Ukrainians are brainwashed into thinking their vote actually matters, they will keep trying to vote their way out of slavery even though their vote is irrelevant. They won't get any help from the law - it's not meant to protect them or their rights. Jewish-Ukrainian oligarchs own the law and will continue to make sure the laws and judges serve THEIR interests - just like they have since the post-Soviet rape of Ukraine.
Every popular uprising will only signal a shift in which set of crony oligarchs control things. The ORIGINAL Maidan focused on getting rid of corrupt public officials. That was hijacked by the U.S. to get rid of Russian-friendly Yanukovych's corrupt public officials and replace them with one of the ZATO-approved oligarchs and their corrupt public officials. Nothing really changed except the U.S. managed to revive the Ukrainian Nazi party and enable them to get in the mix, too. Oddly enough, the fascists are on the Jewish oligarch's payroll once again. That didn't turn out so well the last two times that happened - ask Russia and Germany
Something would have to happen in Ukraine today to drive out the U.S., the oligarchs and their Nazi thugs. Putin certainly has no interest - he just doesn't want psycho neighbors. I can't imagine a Chinese Communist-backed North Vietnamese Army has any interest in defeating the U.S. again - they're still tired from last time.
That pretty much leaves ISIS as the only political and military force capable of making the U.S., Jewish-Ukrainian oligarchs and their political lackeys flee in terror. Kind of hate to pin the hope of an entire nation on the head-choppers, and most of them are on the U.S. payroll anyways. Plus, the Kurds are giving ISIS a thorough ass-kicking in Kobane, so there may not be many head-choppers left. Peshmerga are out. The Southern Peshmerga are already on the payroll of Kurdish-Israeli oligarchs. Western Kurds and Peshmerga are only interested in defending their farms and villages - they're not for hire at any price.
Sorry, Ukraine. Looks like you're on your own again.
But in the chart the jets are big and red and cover whole countries. So it's a lot!
NATO 18 jets.
Russia has over 500 Mig 27s and Mig 29s alone.
Trying to portray Russia as the victim in this is a little bit of a stretch isn't it?
This website likes to pump bullshit articles. You wont hear these idiots mention the nukes russia stationed by st petersberg. fuck putin & fuck the cowards who use the "tyler" nickname.
A polite person would exit at this point.
You,ld wonder why he,d bother being here in the first place when it seems CNBC has everything he could desire.
Except for homo erotic poetry readings.
strannick likewise - why are you here when you could access pravda's russian propaganda newspaper online?This website's a joke - doesn't help traders one bit
Joe surely there are other sites to troll, people here are much more educated then on sites you usualy troll on. There are so many articles here on many subjects and a plethora on trading yet 90% of ones you have posted on have Russia or Putin in tittle, and you always post more or less same garbage
You can shove your trolling shit up your ass
I guess you should head back to your local NSA lair for some fresh trolling instructions.
Damn, some years ago this institution provided much better value for money. With all psychopaths employed by Wall Street and Silicon Valey firms, poor bastards have no choice but to hire incoherent imbeciles...
Think Joe Trader is just trying to pick a fight............or might be that time of month.....
If you were a real trader, I would be VERY worried about the money you're supposedly handling...
Remember he gets paid for how much he can degrade and disrupt the commentary so respond accordingly.
Remember shills don't get paid much either way. They sell out humanity along with their dignity for few bucks, can you think of a lower type of lifeform? Whores provide a service at least, animals can be slaughtered for food, viruses train your immunological system. Lowest effing low.
This website's a joke - doesn't help traders one bit
Dont let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.
go away then...
he is a trader
sounds almost like it. different spelling though.
Luckily for you your stupidity and ignorance outshine your manners
Even funnier how your first post contradicts your second. "soon more countries will have JASSM missiles and their own missile defence shields. bit by bit russia will get mitigated." who is potraying russia as a victim now?
Hey, Joe Trader, fuck off, you propagandizing shill. Putin had the balls to throw out the Oligarchs, 12 of the 16 happened to be Jewish. For this, our Jewish owned media and government have relentlessly pushed for a confrontation between the US and Russia, all to appease our Jewish handlers here in the US. It came to a boil when Khodorkovsky, then owner of Yukos, was imprisoned for tax evasion. I suspect you know this and I suspect you are Jewish. So, fuck off, asshole. You fucking idiots are going to lead us into another world war.
No, & fuck you.
Fuck you, back ! How do you like it, moron ?
You're not a very good Hasbara troll
Go wash your foreskin.
foreskins are rare as hen's teeth in the wealthy countries. all those jewish doctors . . . ?
"For this, our Jewish owned media and government have relentlessly pushed for a confrontation between the US and Russia,"
Psst, istt... Putin is pro-jew. There are plenty of Jews in Russia, and Russia's relations with Israel are quite good. He put oligarchs in jail because they were thieves, not because they were Jewish.
I suspect you're going to start hating Putin.
Putin isn't pro-Jew, he is pro-Russia. And he is fed up with the US' failure to uphold its obligations made between Reagan and Gorbachev. Our government, as it pertains to foreign policy, is dictated by Jews. I'm not going to sugar coat it by saying they are "some Jews" or "Zionists" or "Neocons." The problem we have in this country today is Jewish influence in our military and government that is driving us toward war.
There isn't a news story pertaining to Russia that goes by without some derogatory remark made toward Putin. You see it everywhere. The coverage of the Olympics, the overthrow of the government in Ukraine, 60 Minutes, you name it, Putin is demonized. This is done for one purpose and that is to remind the American people that Putin is evil and cannot be trusted. He must be removed. The only reason our MSM states this ad infinitum is because Putin took Russia's natural resources from Jews who stole it after the collapse of the Soviet Union. Everyone knows this. But the Jews are furious because huge sums of money that would have flowed to Israel in one way or another was taken away from them.
"zionists" is better because it is more accurate and includes the non jews like the last nine or ten u.s. presidents (and include that weasel truman) and the odd vp, etc. like cheney who actually had influence.
also some jews are against zionism and critique israel well like glenn greenwald and naomi klein.
St Petersberg is in Russia, you dumbfuck. We store nukes in North Dakota. Why aren't idiots like you mention that?
Perhaps he meant Konigsb.......er......Kalliningrad.
That's also part of Russia. Nobody is complaining where the US puts its military or weapons on US soil. We even have nukes all over Europe
Are you joe the plumber's kissing cousin?
Counting jets accomplishes very little in terms of portraying victim status. Instead, lets count the dead ethnic Russians in eastern Ukraine in what can only be described as NATO-backed genocide. Honestly, I'm getting a little disappointed and saddened that Putin hasn't done more to defend them.
Maybe not giving NATO the pretext it desperately desires to engulf UKRAINE in a proxy war is how Putin defends them.
That's a big proxy. And of course the definition is of "in lieau of war" and not being the cause of it.
Clearly there is a plan being followed here...that's why I would ignore the numbers as "insignificant." Also no mention of the Polish\English armored exercises underway either.
Putin has attacked as well. How anyone can say "no one is allowed to attack back" is a retard.
That comment was meant to imply "you don't just invade Russia." You know... "Kinda big" and all that shit.
I would add Poopie Pants might have a 90% approval rating but that only shows "you can't fix stupid.". He knows about as much of economics as this site knows about equities, liquidity the dollar and markets.
And of course as my loyal followers know I do not in any way support Plan Isolation either. Making the Russians pay because there leader is a dope is well...certainly very American right now...but just as certainly very wrong.
What if Russia collapses just like say...the price of gold, silver or oil? We're running trillion dollar deficits and spending just as much like its really no biggie.
Indeed the value of the dollar has soared.
In the meantime in Russia....
This suggests the 4 American F-15c's were pulled out, which is odd, since they are by far a stronger deterent to a Russian incursion given their history, capability and pilot training than the 18 NATO jets put in place. Either this piece overlooked them in the current assessment, or something rather interesting seems to be going on.
F-15's are air dominance...stand off weapons. These are front line attack planes...both air to air and air to ground. Biden just said howdy to Turkey's President as well. Rumors out of Crimea of maltreatment are pretty bad.
Doubling down on a "land bridge" through Ukraine only says as much.
"...Rumors out of Crimea of maltreatment are pretty bad..."
The Tartars are just pissed off that the CIA is sending TOW-2As to the al Nusra head-choppers but won't send them any. It's not really maltreatment - they just have to get in the back of the U.S. supported terrorist line. Every terrorist cries about maltreatment when they're not at the front of the illegal U.S. weapons rat-lines.
Unless you figure the tiny little Prosecutor Nyash Myash is beating up on the Tartars - she's only like five feet tall, FFS.
... which is why there's such a thing as a Strike Eagle... oh wait
I doubt you know anything much about Crimea maltreatment...
Crimeans saved themselves from Ukrop gangs maltreatment in real..
Tell us about Tatar slave traders preyed on Crimea and Borderlands
especially took the women for sale from Krim and south of what is now Ukraine
finally stopped by Russians.
Tatars of Russia such as Volga Regions civlized sooner and contribute as good citizens
Head of Russian Central Bank Elvira Nabiullina is Tatar Heritage
Crimean Tatars civilized later..
Some radicals...
You support these? And Joe and Turks?
Ukraine is an obvious trap. If Russia were to jump in on that shit, I have no idea what we'd do, but I can guaran-ass-tee you that it would be dumber than fuck and quite unethical. Our policy wonks are still trying to figure out if the red checkers taste any different than the black checkers, and regardless of what you think of Putin's motivations or goals, he's manuvering for a checkmate.
Even the older S-300's will make short work of those jets.
Not when theyre fifty feet off the ground.
Nobody flies at 50 ft off the ground unless he wants to end up in a tree, or a HVAC pole. You are clueless.
The US and Russia each have at least 1000 strategic nuclear warheads at launch-ready status, which can hit the opposing nation in 30 minutes for land-based ICBMs and 15 minutes or less for sea-based SLBMs.
Once these go, we are all HISTORY, along with the rest of the human race, and most complex life forms.
Clearly, it is worth it to blow up the world in order to defend the Nazis in Kiev, right?
This.
this war is already so stupid. Why can't we just leave Ukraine alone!
"NATO 18 jets."
Come on, have a heart. Nato is broke and still does what it can to look like it's something. As the UE has been subjected to America's Extra Super Slimming Neoliberal Crash diet, what do you expect from its armed forces?
Victim is something that an entity becomes AFTER an event
But just for fun, regarding 18 jets.
18 nukes can do a lot of damage.
These are only the jets deployed by NATO nations for combat air patrols and to show the flag.
There are HUNDREDS more available within 2-4 hours flight time and even more further out,
This does not include bombers, surveillance aircraft, tankers, etc..
It would be fooish to pour more into the border regions and have them bunched up at airfields. Far too vulnerable.
You keep them well away from trouble areas and spread out.
2-4 hours away?
Thats like the cops telling me the 13 new patrolmen will make me safer, except they are 20 minutes away. They should issue them mops, not guns.
Same with NATO.
If hundreds of more planes are brought in. it means that shortly thereafter both sides will be all in.
At that point, those planes don't mean shit.
NEDER-OVER-HEMBEEK, Belgium -- Chief Cpl. Rudy Christians, an impeccably coiffed military hairdresser, has been cutting soldiers' hair for 24 years, and he loves his work.
It's a full-time job, guaranteed until retirement, and until then, the 47-year-old has enough free time to pursue an amateur singing career featuring Elvis and Tom Jones numbers. When the military does send him on an occasional field exercise, he is amazed by the fellow soldiers lumbering around him. "All the people are so old," he says.
Recruits like this help explain why Europe's military muscle has grown soft, and why the U.S. can't count on substantial military help from many of its European allies.
Yeah 14 additional jets. Big woop!
At the end of World War II if anyone remembers we had 4,000 bombers ready to make every inch of Germany a crater pit. Now we have 18 jets and it's a build up.
Russian S-400 will make piecework of these things, manned $35 / 70 million dollar jets are every missiler's wet dream to shoot down.
Funny how we rose up to defend our ruling elite in WWII when Hitler threw out Farben the bankers.
Well, they certainly have Latvia SURROUNDED.
Russia, not so much.
Actually they surrounded Russia´s part of Prussia. That´s what many people forget.
And what you forget is that russian energy reserves will one day be allocated to various European nations.
Yep, that´s why the US government started this conflict in the first place. Or, to be more precise: Those who own the US govenment started this conflict. The US empire wants Russia`s resources, that is what all this trouble is about.
Why don't you look up how Napoleon, the Brits, and Hitler fared in trying to take Russian natural resources?
Wherever there is something worth stealing, you will find a theif.
The Bolshevik Jews from New York fared well.
Wait till Putin sees the response to any action related to "EMP light"...
He will be the recipient of a nuke enema, yes that is correct, then we will be "bowel-ing for dollars"
Meanwhile NASA just hitched a ride to ISS with Russia.
I'd be happy if Putin would just pull his Spetznaz operatives out of Ferguson.
Correct KnuckleDragger. Pure theatre, until someone loses an eye...
these planes go 700 miles an hour. i don't think it makes much difference if they move them from holland to polland, etc. even in this day an age, an hour isn't going to make a difference, unless it goes nuclear. please let me stand corrected. i think this is all show for the msm.
Listen.
Putin himself goes mach2.
Putin vs. rinky-dink Bankster airforce.
I'll put my money on Putin. He'll fuck 'em up.
Go Vlad!
Fuel considerations (but still all theatre).
I don't know about that. Sweden almost started a war against a log in the water
just coz of 1 ppl killed, francois ferdinand, in 1914 started the 1st one, so the sentence of type " not much to start with..."
you are welcomed, u must be an american, you have absolutly no culture , history neither.
to downvoter americans, fuck you.
Yeah, but in that war it was a bunch of not quite sane monarchs who were already spoiling for a fight anyway. Ferdinand was just the flash point that got the ball rolling on some straight up imperialism.
...oh, shit!
Hey, if those fighters were to scale this would be a very big deal.
If you want the pro-israel hysterical Pentecostal take on things, Steve Quayle dot com is the site.
if you want the extreme anti-semitic Jesuit take on things, Jeff rense dot com is the site.
If you want the pro-russian completely bizarre but strangely lucid take on things, Sorcha Faal is the site.
If you want the dumbed down and disinfoed and yet still hysterical take on things, go to Alex Jones.
And yet they are powerless against ISIS, all the weapons in the world but no intelligence to use them.
Russia is in Ukraine ready to attack and probably continue on past Ukraine, should an invasion of Syria occur.
Very simple strategy, and explains why NATO is so upset about Russia being there. Attacking Syria will make defending Ukraine, Poland, etc much harder for NATO and they'll have little political leverage to make Russia the bad guy after attacking Syria.
Checkmate, mate
What exactly are you referring to when you say "Russia is in Ukraine"? Crimea? Ethnic Russians who were born and have lived their whole life in Ukraine? Or are you implying that the Russians have been moving tanks across the border?
Don't get your panties in a knit defending Russia, I'm no NATO lover.
Russian "separatists" are fighting for Russia, whether they're soldiers or not, they've taken ground in Ukarine. That's obvious.
Russia can at any time, cross the border unmolested through their proxies, making an invasion much easier.
That's it, they've positioned themselves accordingly, should NATO invade their ally Syria.
Maybe those Russian Seperatists don't wish to be ruled by a cabal of nazis's.
Just because amerika could care less who rules them (so long as EBT keeps coming) doesn't mean everyone else are the same.
The moscow university student worte an article that fabricated that as propaganda. Europe and the US could destroy russia you tool.
Listen Trader.
Be nice to the ZH CIA guy's. They're touchy.
I think that ISIS is more representative of the Future, and organized force that steps into the Chaos created by US policy without all the problems associated with previous failed nation state.
Coming to Mexico soon ? Spain maybe ?
1. Russia "is" not in Ukraine.
2. Russia is not ready "to attack".
3. Continue on past Ukraine? Why whould they?
4. Invasion of Syria? Who is gonna invade Syria? The US? Have you been under a rock for a few years?
5. Something sure is very simple here.
6. It doen's explain why NATO is upset.
7. NATO isnt defending Ukraine, it is destabilizing Ukraine. NATO has no obligation to defend Ukraine since it isnt a NATO member.
You ask if I've been under a rock and you can't think of a reason the US would invade Syria?
You've just made an ass of yourself in front of ZH"ers.
Congratulations. I guess you'll be reemerging with a new handle.
1. Yes you mustve missed the part where there was never any intention to invade, even if Russia had not checkmated Obama.
2. If I have, how is that supposed to make me feel bad?
3. Thanks.