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NATO Jets Surrounding Russia: Before And After
Based on the following "before" and "after" the Ukraine crisis pictures of NATO warplanes located just off the Russian border...
Before:
After:
... one can almost understand why Victoria Nuland was so eager to tell the EU to "fuck off" in her successful attemp to foment Ukraine unrest leading to the overthrow of ex-president Yanukovich, and destabilize the region, giving NATO a pretext for a major arms build up on the other side of the Russian border.
Per CNN, "There used to be only four jets ready to intercept Russian planes that crossed into European airspace. Now there are 18." And rising.
As for what the US response would be if Russia were to park a few squadrons of Mig-35s in Cuba, Canada and Mexico, we leave that to the reader's imagination.
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You ask if I've been under a rock and you can't think of a reason the US would invade Syria?
You've just made an ass of yourself in front of ZH"ers.
Congratulations. I guess you'll be reemerging with a new handle.
Hmm, sounds vaguely familiar to the thrd Reich's statemtns by the shit heel Shickle..
Fucking lunatic
How to win wars and change history...
Standard Disclaimer:
Hey, we genocided some folks.
Who needs an enemy if you have the FED to destroy the Western world?
Ok, 18 is not a lot....
but like he said, 18 Russian fighter jets in Cuba, Mexico, and/or Canada would have us on edge
We'd throw a complete shit-fit.
Just keep poking them in the eye until they turn off the lights in US and Canada.
We'd turn off the lights in Mos COW but, you neandethal's have yet to progress past the fire stage
The loosers will be the ones thar waste the most money/assets
Little the Nato knows about Russian warfare!
You ain't dealing with silly arabs in the sand!
(Start English speaking Russian accent) Zi eats 18 fiter jeets for brakfeest, hahaha (End English speaking Russian accent)
Warmongers gonna warmonger.
Haters gonna hate
Federal Reserve aint Federal and got no reserves.
Wake me when thay actually shoot something down. Until then, it's all just posturing and a waste of jet fuel...
Does Malaysia have any flights over that area?
Wow they went from 4 fighters to 16, got Putin shaken in his boots by now.
What frightened the USS Donald Cook so much in the Black Sea?
http://www.voltairenet.org/article185860.html
Propaganda???
Nothing. That is a bullshit story written and propagated by libtards and idiots who have no understanding of
electronic warfare or the capabilities of the U.S. military. The Cook is one hell of a formidable warship which
could have easily blotted those aircraft out of the sky. It is one of the ship's specialties.
The Russian pilots are alive only because of the training and professionalism of the U.S. armed services.
Ah yes, US is superplusgood and Russia is terribad. Got it, thanks.
So the US Military will drone strike a wedding party but not a shoot a Mig doing repeated torpedo runs?.....great training and professionalism.
Hey what's the difference when you animals continuously suicide bomb and commit genocide against your own people?
We're going to deport every last one of you from the West, then we won't have to deal with your suicide bombings.
This is my one and only life, so I won't be wasting it upon some perverted panreligious agenda of greed, hate and empty promises.
Take that idea to your POTUS. He seems to sing a different song about that deportation thingy...
Errrrr this story has been verified, go troll faux news.
Would you enlighten us? Provide links or something.
Dig it up yourself.
Or enlist.....
LOL! The only thing US defense contractors are good at is controlling Congress and spending money plus getting rid of JFK. How is that super sophisticated and full spectrum F-35 working out? Biggest piece of shit ever.
Professionalism and "US Trained" may be the definition of oxymoron - from one who HAS had the misfortune of having to work with your "Professionals".
If your "Professionals" had taken pot-shots at that MiG, your boat (and occupants) would have been checking out the seabed toute suite. You know this, the World knows this, so why post a blatant lie.
US / West / NATO ARE threatening Russia (check out all those NATO bases . . .); US / West / NATO HAVE deliberately destabilised Ukraine, The US have certainly pillaged Russian assets and resources, in the very recent (just pre-Putin) past. Everyone (and I DO mean EVERYONE) in Russia is very aware of the Western / US ploy, and they are not going to be the fall guy this time.
The US and "Allies" (read - the self-interested Western "Political Elite" such as Cameron and our delightful "Mr" Abbot) will just keep on pushing, 'cause "nothing's happened yet, so we know the Russians won't retaliate" - until they do, and when this happens it's game over for the West, and the pro-Western hanger-on Nations, irrespective of whether the conflict is nuclear, or conventional.
"The Cook is one hell of a formidable warship which could have easily blotted those aircraft out of the sky." --Divine Wind
Your brain has apparently been reduced to a corporate media echo chamber, which is no doubt very comforting for you. But for some of us, the assumed invulnerability of American weapon systems is worth questioning. Just look at the F-35 boondoggle; the Serbians proved 15 years ago that American "stealth" technology is easily defeated simply by returning to WWII-era longwave radar technology, and what did Forbes report just days ago? That the F-35 aced its sea trials, and all is well!
All the major nations under the dominion of the private Western central banking axis are committing their future taxpaying generations to a KNOWN TURKEY, while the mainstream media looks the other way. Sheeple like you are complicit in this infamy.
Breaking Wind "libtards and idiots who have no understanding of electronic warfare or the capabilities of the U.S. military" Yeah, right Muppet, just like when the Iranians jammed and captured the ever so high tech POS USA RQ-170 drone. A lot of electronics for the US military is being procured out of China, this is really smart, and maybe they will give the Russian's the back door hacks to down these planes without firing a shot. LOL
Chinese Counterfeit Electronics 'Flood' U.S. Military Aircrafthttp://www.defensenews.com/article/20120521/DEFREG02/305210016/Chinese-C...
I'm trying to remember if I am under any ITAR agreements before typing any more on this subject.
Practice stupid in private.
+1000... US has shown repeatedly it is nothing more than a paper tiger.
Yeah who believes this bullshit,if it was true then it would be top secret and no one would be talking. And I thought you dumb fucks were smarter than that.
Really? 18 jets and russia is crying? I can understand the insult of only 18 jets getting under your skin but to complain about it?
Winston -- Who said they were complaining about it?
No worries - JFK will return to diffuse the situation just like in 1961!
No HE will not come back into politics...he is running a bar in Dallas right now called JFK's. I love his motto "First shot is on the house".
Well, there will never be a Russian MIG based in Canada given their foreign policy is scripted by the US State Department.
Dolla dolla bill for the MIC yo.
BUY BUY BUY! THE ESCALATION IS JUST STARTING! GET IN EARLY!
Samir Amiens observations of the current crisis - a Marxist economist never afraid to bring military dynamics into the equation ' is looking spot on
What are the Portuguese and Canadians doing in Lithuania? I'm sure the U.S. would not be too happy about having Chinese and North Korean jets based in Mexico or Canada!
You fail to account for the fact that the Mexicans and Canadians probably don't want the Korean and Chinese air forces on their soil. And I wouldn't be surprised to learn the Russians were unwelcome also.
Not quite comparing apples to apples.
You're not dealing with intelligent human beings here at ZH - russian propaganda lovers.
"You're not dealing with intelligent human beings here at ZH." --Joe Trader
Return to your status quo slumber, Joe Trader. Let Comcast/DirectTV/ClearChannel/Verizon/AT&T sedate your soul with the flickering filtration of Zionist enchantment. ZH isn't for the somnolescent, so keep to your corporate media hibernation chamber, by all means.
Absolutely! ZH is not for the somnolescent (sic); it’s for the lost sheeplekovs, happy to fall prey to every spurious assertion they can find here or on the laughably “independent” RT. It is for the willfully blind (and, of course, the Putiporn Man-Midget Love Society). Consider just these few to see how gullible and easily led this flock is:
---the article on “stored automobile overproduction”, which used photos from shipment staging sites
---the OMFIF report, which was erroneously and spuriously described as a recent action involving only Central Banks
---the now ancient article on UST Bearer Bonds and Japanese couriers, who in point of fact were just ‘baka’s, who fell prey to a Manila-sourced scam that has been floating around Asia since 1980
---all of the “PM Manipulation proofs”, which are primarily just about the (admittedly illegal) juicing of the close, trying to make the market close specifically on either the bid side or the ask side, so a prop trader can paint his P&L...at ZH, however, the gang thinks one schlock trader at Barclays (?), who probably had a VaR about the size of the chit at one of Mario Batelli's restaurants, is behind the 40-70% crash in Au and Ag since 2011
---last weeks “fracking” article, which even stated (ignored by the crowd here) that water sources were first adulterated in 1985, long before fracking and the result instead of traditional drilling, and an article whose conclusions were crushed by poster and oil/gas expert wrs1
---this weekend's “proof” of Fed purchasing of ES minis, a claim that was solely sourced to a single individual who just had a “gut feel”, completely ignoring the fact that all that QE creates plenty enough incentive in fund managers without the need for any additional prompting
For the most vocal membership here, anger and outrage come first, logical analysis not at all. For ZHers, it is not about being right, it is about being bitter. There is no time for getting past the confirmation bias and getting to the reality. Without that bitterness, their lives have no meaning. Also, by chasing apparitions, attention is diverted from the actual issues.
That describes ALL media.
I see these silly bumper stickers from time to time that say "If you're not angry, you're not paying attention"
For me, that is backwards, it should be that if you're angry, you aren't paying attention.
The whole point of media is to get the audience riled up and disoriented.
I have people come up to me, aren't you pissed about illegal immigration, this religious group, what this democrat said, what this republican did, on and on and on. No, I'm not pissed. When one is spiritually centered, all of these hot-button issues end up becoming eyerolls. Bad stuff has been going on long before I was born, and will continue long after. All I can do is my little part.
useless talkings
Russia isn't sitting on its hands.
Rocket Surprise Putin
http://z5h64q92x9.net/tr-url/ru-en.en/www.segodnia.ru/content/148485 (Yandex translation)
Very good. Proactive thinking will prevent disasters created by the Western military industrial complex.
Russia and Ukraine crisis, the Eurasian project in conflict with triad imperialist policies.
Samir amin 24/03/14
"Everybody has a Eurasian Project until they get punched in the mouth."
- Kaiser Wilhelm II, Marshall Pilsudski, Napoleon I etc. etc.
So there is 18 jets around Russia? This is bullshit for the 9 o'clock news, it is not a material threat. Just trying to convince the natives that we have the upper hand in the situation.
Again...the English are war gaming with Poland. "Best way to control the air is to control the land.". That is a lot of land of course.....
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/nov/21/joe-biden-retreats-from-...
Vice President Joseph R. Biden retreated from an angry crowd in Kiev Friday when his Secret Service agents decided the situation was not safe.
Mr. Biden was to meet with Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko at a site in central Kiev where demonstrators were killed earlier this year during the country’s revolution. But his motorcade encountered a large and “unruly” crowd, many of whom were shouting “shame” at Mr. Poroshenko for failing to prosecute those responsible for the killings
Maybe someone should let those old codgers know that Joe Bobs son Hunter is in the country, you know, fracking the beautiful Ukrainian wheat fields. Im sure that is totally unconected though.
Ukraine media is hardline tight control. Kyiv Post for example is terrible.
People have to find truth from other contacts.
Let me know when jets can hold ground, until then putins got obama in a double lip lock and damn if them lips ain't made made to suck and them ears make good hand grips too.
The fact that those planes are there says that is friendly territory and the ground has been held. Held by what is an interesting question...
4 escorted Russian Bears can take care of all of that, in one afternoon.
And how in the fuck do you know ? Just another dumb fuck.
Black Friday, 60% markdown on all Quantitative Easing weapons of mass destruction.
Turkey baster and antifreeze are free upon store rewards card enrollment.
/LOL
Let's not kid ourselves. The real damage will be done by sleeper agents on both sides that ill seek to do untold damage to infrastructure related to electricity and water so as to bring society unglued.
Perhaps we will see an esclation of rhetoric and a flurry of military "movements" that will heighten tensions to such a degree that in the end it will bring the parties to the table.
Failing that, the degree of panic will push a fragile, manipulated market in a direction that the elite would not like to see.
>>>both sides ... will seek to do untold damage to infrastructure related to electricity and water so as to bring society unglued.
A very important point IMHO. I admittedly don't know Russia well, but my strong impression is that the average Russian can survive on next-to-nothing, while the current crop of 'Muricans is at least two generations removed from that mind-set.
When the going turns hostile-to-human-life, the Russians turn pro.
Things you can see : 18 NATO fighter jets sitting on the tarmac.
Things you can NOT see : number of Russian subs within 200 miles of any given territory of the US.
Now, where did those 4 US F15c fighter jets that were relieved by NATO partners fly off to?
Also
number of US and NATO subs sitting off the coasts of Russia, China.
What's your point, Throxx?
Prolly to Syria to fight the phony war against ISIS
I wonder if Putin knows how much Americans hate their govt and the emperor.
The American military and the Pentagon taking on the Russians in Europe? They cannot even defend The Constitution from an usurper or defend the border.
Yes but look how big the NATO jets are, they can only fit four in Estonia ffs!
They are star destroyers!
Nothing the new Russian Lepage gun couldn't handle. "It glues a whole formation of planes together in mid-air."
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Catch-22#Chapter_12
Yossarian lives!
18 jets.LOL. The tribe has really gone mad due to incest, peadophilia and bestiality. It's all in their holy book called Talmud.
In response,the Russians have now decided to once again spend money in Cuba and upgrade their former military facilities there.If Americans and Europeans think that their fighter jets are superior then they should watch this:
https://www.google.ca/search?q=russian+fighter+jets&espv=2&biw=1870&bih=...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OSzx9n_Eus
Russia also has approx. 700 mobile tacticle battlefield nuclear weapons and has also stated that if they are threatened,they're not afraid to use them in advance to defend their borders.
Another stupid fuck,how do you know the true capabilities of both Russian and US planes ? You don't do you stupid fuck.
The F-35 is junk and it cannot be fixed. The F-22 is not much better.
F-35
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPqbN7OooRg
F-22
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAq6oMG7DoE
You can also search John Boyd F-15. Colonel Boyd, Pierre Sprey and Colonel Riccioni. They helped design the F-16 and A-10. John Boyd passed away but Colonel Everest Riccioni is also a critic of the F-22.
Robert Gates who ran the CIA and was Sec of Defense wanted the F-22 cancelled.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oC6bF4f2iiU
http://pogoblog.typepad.com/pogo/2005/03/riccioni_respon.html
There are two ways to look at this naturally. Supposedly Russia is flying missions over EU airspace and other places. I'm not seeing any reports of provocation on our side with our assets flying over Russia. Nobody said Putin had to go into Crimea or stir things up as he has been doing. Whatever the basis for the orignaal fighting in Ukriane, it was not incumbent on Putin that he needed to send in troops in stealth mode. ZH has been depicting all along that Putin and Russia are the innocent parties in all this. I grew up learning to disbelieve the USSR and now Russia, so it is easy for me to accept that Russia still does not have good intentions. Putin continues to lie to this day about the extent of Russian fighters inside east Ukraine, and not honor internationally recognized borders.
Just because people speak Russian does not mean that they must fall into the Russian orbit if people do not want to fall back into the Russian sphere of influence. That was a large part of his pretext to move into east Ukraine, and how he has been rattling about other potential moves in east Europe. I am really alittle surprised by now the Russian oligarchs have not come out more against Putin, how he is damaging Russia from sanctions and increasing their isolation, save China, Iran and a few others. There was no reason it had to get to this point if one steps back and thinks about it, this constant male measuring that goes on about who is macho and what they are willing to do. It's bullshit if it wasn't so deadly serious.
I'm not saying the US's shit doesn't stink on this either, but Russia needs to get off a bit on their power trip about returning to USSR days and learn to coexist with other nations.
. . . but Russia needs to get off a bit on their power trip about returning to USSR days and learn to coexist with other nations.
Man you must be living in an alternative reality or something. If you've bothered to check the facts on what's going on in Russia's backyard for the last 10 years or so it has been NATO that has been expanding, the US and its allies fomenting "color revolutions" in Warsaw Pact countries and Russia being blamed for all the problems that have been going on in Ukraine when the evidence is clear that is the US and the EU that have been at the core of the problems there. I guess your deluded comments are a good indicator of the effectiveness of western propaganda though . . . . either that or you are simply a troll.
You'll appreciate this, really.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LexhW8SCM2c&feature=player_embedded
AP guy..Matt? What is his last name.
I always impressed how he go after these dunces, with real questions.
Hard to believe he fits into AP, from what I see of their articles...
He upholds the illusion of Freedom (of speech etc.).
Dont even bother bringing logic into this. Never bring logic to a propaganda fight. Especially when you are fighting software. Some of these posters are just that, software. Nobody is actually as dumb as these trolls, they lack logic, common sense, and most importantly lack the ability to coceed points when thier beliefs are exposed to be based on falsehoods.
Supposedly Russia is flying missions over EU airspace and other places
Russia is flying in international space, like everyone is.
Nobody said Putin had to go into Crimea or stir things up as he has been doing.
Nobody said the US had to organize a coup and overthrow a democratically elected government and install a bunch of nazi's. Russia took Crimea because it is strategically essential to the defense of Russia as it has the only naval base with access to the Black Sea and it could not let it fall in NATO's hands as was about to happen. The people of Crimea voted overwhelmingly to join Russia. The Crimean parliament asked Russia for annexation. The democratically elected President of Ukraine sanctioned the annexation. Putin has not been stirring anything up.
Whatever the basis for the orignaal fighting in Ukriane, it was not incumbent on Putin that he needed to send in troops in stealth mode.
The basis was NATO meddling in Ukrainian affairs and murdering ethnic Russians. Yes it was.
I grew up learning to disbelieve the USSR and now Russia, so it is easy for me to accept that Russia still does not have good intentions
Yes, propaganda internalized at a young age is hard to eject from your system, too bad you chose to identify with your conditioning.
Putin continues to lie to this day about the extent of Russian fighters inside east Ukraine, and not honor internationally recognized borders.
Proof?
Just because people speak Russian does not mean that they must fall into the Russian orbit if people do not want to fall back into the Russian sphere of influence.
Newsflash: They dont want to be under nazi rule. Hence all the fighting.
That was a large part of his pretext to move into east Ukraine, and how he has been rattling about other potential moves in east Europe
No, and he has not been rattling about other potential moves either.
I am really alittle surprised by now the Russian oligarchs have not come out more against Putin, how he is damaging Russia from sanctions and increasing their isolation, save China, Iran and a few others.
Considering your total lack of insight, knowledge or intelligence, I am not surprised you are a little surprised.
I'm not saying the US's shit doesn't stink on this either, but Russia needs to get off a bit on their power trip about returning to USSR days and learn to coexist with other nations.
Nobody wants to return to USSR days, Russia is more than willing to coexist with other nations. The US unfortunately is not.
Wow, your ingroup morality really has you by the balls.
Guess that shoots your ability to think all to hell.
My favorite quote from April 2008
Vladimir Putin: “You understand, George [Bush], Ukraine is not a state. What is Ukraine? One part is eastern Europe. The other part, and a significant one, was donated by us”. According to the Russian newspaper Kommersant, Putin then “very transparently hinted that if Ukraine was accepted into NATO, it would cease to exist.
The US military, intelligence and foreign policy establishments and knew full well that Putin would react militarily to NATO destabilization of Ukraine. Sometime around New Year's 2009 Nudelman, Kagan, Soros and McCain probably cracked a bottle of champagne and joked, "Look at that dumb ass nigger from Chicago who thinks he knows everything... Looks like we get a reset and do-over in Ukraine after Hitlery delivers that red nuclear launch button to Lavrov."
Just because you missed the news article six years ago doesn't mean the thousands of desk jockeys and anal-cysts that US government pays specifically not to miss the headline and write a summary for their superiors also missed it.
"I'm not seeing any reports of provocation on our side." --bk1037
Holy s#!t, I nominate this for Most Ignorant Post of the Year. Yeah, I'm not seeing any reports from the Democracy Inc. corporate media, either! Strange!
...Unfortunately for us good-guy democracy-spreading Americans, it seems Putin has interpreted the total encirclement of his sovereign territory as a "provocation" of sorts. How dare he!
useless talkings
Crimeans did what they want
Crimea is still celebrating
A good book for you= "Confessions of an Economic Hitman"
There isn't too many big words that you will not underestand.
Not too many pages either!
Read it, then we will talk.
Crimea? Let's see. The people have a choice to go with Russia or the criminal junta in Kiev of all criminal oligarch "businessmen" who are dual-citizens and who use their own artillerry their own people and on their own troops when they try to surrender. These same f**ks do not pay their bills, redirect natural gas to steal it and are beholden to another country or two.
This is my choice? Hmmm...I vote to go with Russia and that is what the Crimea did. Get over it AH.
The USSR is gone. The people who created the USSR and ran it now run the Ukraine and America. They have dual citizenships.
I'm pretty sure those military aircraft in this article aren't the only US/NATO ones near Russia's border.
http://socioecohistory.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/russia_wants_war_look...
The snowman are waging California water wars under union negations. You can’t make this shit up.
Global Warming Snowman leaching water to charge overflow fee by LEED environmental requirements.
It’s really a fucked up system of jackasses who can’t manage a Global System. Shoot, ask questions later. :)
Nothing more than pesky mosquitoes.
The idea I like most for an air force is one that is comprised of 100 million mass produced mini-drones that deliver free pizza and beer to the enemy. While the enemy forces are getting drunk and fat the opposing force, the one that delivered the drone's payload then sneaks in and abducts all the oligarchs, queens with cloven hooves and the like and takes them to a dungeon for rendition.
Oh my GAWD, 18 whole jets!
Fuck Putin and fuck Russia's sphere of influence.
We are in Putin's backyard because we beat the Soviet Union's global expansion of communism. If Putin placed military units around the United States it would be an act of agression.
I don't think the United States is perfect and I know our monetary system is fucked up, but that doesn't make Russia a model country that is perfect. I am so sick of Tylers on here sucking Putin's cock.
"You" are there because "you" broke your promise not to go there. Yes if Putin did that it would be an act of aggression, so why isnt it the same when the US does it?
Nobody is claiming Russia is perfect.
We are sick of people like you too.
It is different when the US does it because we won the Cold War. We earned our place in Europe through our strength. We freed millions of people from Communism.
I am not defending the Federal Reserve and debt disaster the US has created, but I am saying the US has done some good in the world.
I guess I just hope the superpower with the most merit wins the battle over natural resources in the Middle East and surrounding regions. Right now I am still rooting for USA.
And who's are you sucking?
Typical self-righteous neocon faggotry. The only global expansion going on is the debt-driven spread of inbred oligarchy.
Russian nuclear subs ARE all around the US "homeland", so they don't really need aircraft, and of course we are tracking all those subs so no worries.
Of course there was that sub-launched missile off of LA a year or so ago that did catch the USN by surprise, but hey, everybody has a bad hair day once in a while.
America has more bad hair days than they will admit to...
Look reset, most people on here just want the world to continue for another 1000 years or so while the ZWO seems hellbent on creating a nuclear war with Russia. Period. If you don't see that, then there is no hope for you.
At this time, you have ten up votes and one down vote.
I can infer then that there is a ten to one ratio of Jew Haters to rational people voting on here. Makes me not feel so bad when I get down voted.
No you did not. Once Trotsky went there was no global expansion of communism simply opportunism riding on the back of Third World nationalism
Soviet Union is defunct
Russians have their country back
Please learn not to conflate Soviet with Russian Federation
Soviet was never a Russian construct
Mig 35s in Canada?
That would be a great idea, they would cost about 1/100th of the cost of the F35s our Conservative government has been trying to buy and they'll actually work. We could buy 10x the planes for our Air Force that we were goingto buy and have some money left over to balance the budget. Maybe they'd throw in some S-300 missile systems too and we'd be in much better shape as a country as we are now.
And you can land a MIG on a tractor road and repair it with Bailing wire
The Red Army would bleed us white..... Just ask an old Nazi.
We should be trading goods with Russia,,, not trading war whoops.
This is ridiculous. When are amerikans gonna realize they are b r o k e and start taking care of business at home.
After about 250 million of them are vaporized.
It's a long process:
- Shut off the teevee.
- Flush out the fluoride from your system.
- Learn some real history.
"Learn some real history." --Infinite QE
--Annddd which history would that be? The status quo White-Elites-As-Saviors history? Howard Zinn's Victims-R-Us history? Or one of the thousands of versions in between, each of which contradicts the others and insists it is the correct one? There is no single known history. We have but narrative scraps, from which one selects and arranges the excerpts that best tell the preferred tale.
But there are certainly singular phoney historical narratives. We can start by unraveling those. Start with religion, then the events of the 20th century. That should be enough for a starter.
Agreed. And to your previous statment about fluoride, is it normal to feel more? I can feel anger well up inside of me. I feel less of a zombie, Im more sharp in the mind and I anger more easily when exposed to fuckery.
As for religion. Once I discovered Gnosticism, about 7 years ago, I have become more cynical towards all other religions, save for a couple I wont mention. To hell with the Lion headed false god Yaldaboath and all who worship his image.
Carry on, I enjoy most of your writings!
"I anger more easily when exposed to fuckery"
Congratulations. You're alive. Would you walk up to a lion and bitch slap it? No, because natural response is to do whoop ass on something which harms you. Fluoride was marketed to parents a long time ago to help them control the little ones.
"Gnosticism": once you go down the rabbit hole of the archons, you see it surfaces in Tel Aviv.
" Learn some real history "
You make it sound like the masses are capable of learning.
HINT: nope
I am a hopeless optimist.
100+ That is the fucking answer. But it's not enough for the greedy pricks and bankers at the top who want to own it all.
Putin is Chuck Norris, he can't be destroyed.
18 jets in Eastern Europe?
Just something that some mid-level State Department hacks learned playing board games in diplomacy school.
Nothing to do with reality anymore.
The U.S. military is hollowed out.
Obama's teleprompter tells him that ISIS is really dangerous and doing bad things, and Obama looks stern and says "someone ought to do something", but WE are not putting any boots on the ground. "Someone else save us!"
Obamba is releasing really dangerous bad guys from Guantanamo, and letting suicide "bombers" with Ebola bombs shove Ebola infected "Dreamer" children across the U.S. southern border and "relocate" them into "foster care" in big cities.
Chicom hackers are spreading computer viruses and malware which, at any moment, could disable most of the PC's used by businesses in the world.
The combat aircrews on Putin's doorstep in eastern Europe are probably safer there than their counterparts in the U.S.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/all-out-war-in-ukraine-natos-final-offensiv...
Portugal clearly ready to defend its territorial integrity at all costs.
Nazi gold lives...
Wait till subs pop up in the gulf. No problem, international waters, right.
As for what the US response would be if Russia were to park a few squadrons of Mig-35s in Cuba, Canada and Mexico, we leave that to the reader's imagination.
The Zionist pig fucks better hurry with more planes because at the rate market(s) continue their "melt up" Cuba, Canada and Mexico along with the starting line up of NATO wannabes may get cold feet and extend the invitation to Russia so that they can be another "BRICS in the Wall"!
http://sputniknews.com/radio_red_line/20141122/1015010443.html
This site has turned in to the financial section of RT. Enough with the propaganda.
This site has turned in to the financial section of RT. Enough with the propaganda.
That you Vicky?... More your style as the consummate professional diplomat that you are to just say "Fuck Zerohedge"!
"This site has turned in to the financial section of RT. Enough with the propaganda." --Barry McBear
Yeah, guys, let's get away from all this ZH propaganda and just switch back to our favorite corporate media outlets to get the straight dope. NY Times, Fox News, NPR, WSJ, ABC, NBC, CBS... they all benefit from an informed citizenry, now don't they? And they'll all tell you the truth: WAR IS GOOD! Why? Because it makes the world safe for Democracy, Inc.... ahem, I mean democracy.
Sad but true. I do not watch TV or Hollywood's shit and have not for years. The other day I got a letter asking for money for wounded warriors (you know the phony support the troops BS - which really means support endless war).
I did not open it but I felt bad for the American kids killed, blown up, maimed and destroyed for life. Sadly - no one learned from Vietnam or Korea, etc. These poor kids bought the lie and so did their parents.
On you tube, they have a video with Fletcher Prouty who was Mr. X in the JFK movie. His general boos was the one probably running that JFK show. Prouty said after WW2 there was a huge build up of weapons after Japan surrendered. He asked some shipping sargent or officer if the stuff was going back to America. He said no. Some of it was going to Korea and some was going to Indo China aka Vietnam. These wars were planned in advance.
The USA Military cannot field an army to fight Russia and should not anyway. The USA is becoming a bankrupt hellhole filled with feral illiterates. The enemy to Americans is in Washington DC.
Oh wow, 18 jets. Really shocking. That is really gonna stop the Russian air force.
As much as I hate the one sided news coverage in the West, this according to ZH supposed 'threat' to Russia is a joke. Besides, during the Cold War it was estimated that an average NATO pilot would have a 10% chance of surviving his first ten missions. I don't think it will be any better now.
But there is a point. While the US/EU/NATO interference in Ukraine gave Putin the opportunity to take Crimea and interfere in Eastern Ukraine, him doing so gave NATO the opportunity to park its hardware right on Putin's doorstep. While NATO might mourn over the loss of Crimea and hence control over the Black Sea (an unattainable wet dream anyway), NATO got what it wanted for a long time: a motive for putting troops and hardware in Eastern Europe.
The Russians have little to fear from NATo fighter squadrons. Fighter jets can only be 'impressive' against relatively local targets or in dog-fights with other fighter aircraft. They can be shot down relatively easily with multiply supersonic missiles, or even ignored.
The other big-stick are supposed to be ABM batteries sited at/near Russian borgers. The magician's principal trick is always distraction and mis-direction.
By making an 'issue' of NATO/US ABMs, Russia encourages NATO/US to think they (really) matter and change the balance of deterrence - good, that makes them irrelevant. Russia wouldn't deploy ICBMs - they serve the same function as Birmarck and Tirpitz did as 'capital' ships in WW2 - distract and tie-up resources.
Russian nuclear powered and nuclear armed submarines will be immune (more or less) to continental USA-based ABM systems. A ring of ABMs 'pointing out' from US territory will still guarantee massive radiological and explosive nuclear destruction to the US - where are most centres of population/industry/military based? Within 100 miles of the coast.
Did I mention jamming yet? Do you think that aircraft based signals/detection/guidance jamming technology that 'downed USS Donald Cook is restricted to only aircraft? Russian subs do that too.
The encircelment theory is only effective in the minds of hubristic 5-stars and incompetent advisors who take their guidance from Russian 'outrage' at NATO incursions. They're being played.
I promise I won't cum in your mouth,the check is in the mail. Yeah stupid fuck you probably think your farts smell good. Prove the story on the Cook,you can't can you stupid fuck. If it really happened don't you think they would hang the sailors if they said anything,you don't think that it would be top secret stupid fuck ?
That reads as though you are scared.
is your zio-world falling apart?
With all the real problems in the world why can't Obama just let go. As time goes by Putin continues to rack up more points in the Ukraine as the conflict drags on. Things appear to have quieted down to many as the eyes of the world have moved to more pressing issues, but the war continues and Putin is playing the long game by grinding away at the resolve of both bankrupt Kiev and the EU. A recently signed deal for gas supplies to Ukraine was a sign of hope to many, but it only highlights the devil of any agreement is in the details.
The Russian Energy Minister Alexander Novak said any resumed supplies could be halted again on Jan. 1 if Ukraine doesn’t pay $3.1 billion in debt prepay for future deliveries. It appears this deal is tenuous and the guarantees of it being fulfilled are weak. Don't hold your breath for Putin to back-off or back-down, he has put down his marker and is now playing both Obama and Kerry for fools in a contest that may cost Russia little. If Putin doesn't get his way next week he will next month or next year at the latest. This conflict won't be over until Putin says its over.
http://brucewilds.blogspot.com/2014/11/putin-scores-more-points-in-ukraine.html
Bang on. On the EU,
The Independent Greeks Party today announced that , GREEK INTERESTS are on the same wavelengths as those of the Russians' Under Putin.
Key words were: same version of Orthodoxy, and Same interests (Naturally against Turkey's Erdogan's Schemes).
It is the FIRST time that they announced such a thing. Putin is indeed gaining ground.
The Conferance burst out in approval.
It makes total sense. They are Orthodox Christians. The EU and IMF are grinding the Greeks into the dirt. Greece will never get better. The EU money went to elites in Greece and now the money is gone.
The sooner Russia softens up the already weak underbelly of the bloated EU then the plebs can mount their attacks on the carcass.
The sooner we can barricade these filthy sell-out politicos into their taxpayer luxury offices and buildings then set them alight the better.
These SCUM could not give a fuck what we think or how we feel and Putin will go down in history as the MAN who stood up to the SHITFACE BULLY THAT IS USSA & THE SHIRT LIFTERS OF THE EU.
do these 18 pilots draw numbers out the, expendable false-flag personell, bin, like lotto-numbers, or does nuland draw for you?
This is starting to look more and more like one of the Sun Tzu Art of War endgame scenarios
Dear Tools of the Zionists,
Unlike Iraq, Hussein, Russia, Putin, HAS WMDs, and proven launch platforms. Specifically ICBMs.
Sincerely,
Your non-Zionist victims
An American,not US subject.
And I don't want any Zionist cookies either.
Their sea based missiles are pretty staggering. The Bulva ICBMs plus all of these newer topredo launched cruise missiles that work on their diesel subs. Plus they can hide platforms on any merchant ships. All off this stuff is within all the treaties.
Russian, Chinese, and USA have stunning weapons. Some fly fast and low and can't be stopped.
We just can't know all the technology, nor can our Expert "Intelligence" people.
To me the graph represents the increasing number of $150M planes that will be shot out of the sky if they try to intrude on Russia's territory.
They burn fuel, right? Wonder where it comes from?
(Remember recently how Iranians zooming around the Gulf in an armed Zodiac could bump the price of oil a couple of bucks.?)
You can have your picture taken next to a Russian fighter and smiling pilot when you emigrate, comrade!
So? And I bet the Soviets err Russians don't have any military air facilities in Kaliningrad or in close striking distance to the Baltic states. Of course none of them have any reason to be suspect of Russian intentions. Its not like they spent decades as occupied territory or anything. Oh wait, nevermind.
I'd be shaking in my boots. That is if I didn't have an air force.
Obama and his puppet masters Soros and Company, are trying really hard to fuck the American people from within. And now it appears, from without as well. The assholes are trying to provoke Putin into defending his country's national interests.
So what, all Russia needs to do is cut of Hormuz and attack Saudi Arabia. and maybe some subs near Greece and Mexico.
But these Nato-madness just has a different target: Us, because we all should be distracted to not look at the situation right next to us.
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Listen Cornelius,
ZH manager: Here's what I want. I want a way to create a "CREDIBLE" ZH identity within minutes.
Meaning, I want a screen where you just enter a username and in the background it makes me at least 4 years old with 10 - 50 comments per day on a 4 to 6 day schedule. Make it fucking random. Inject the comments into the old dialogs meaning, overwrite an old username with mine or add some random comment and give me lots of greenies and 1 or 2 reds.
Con you do it son?
Corny: Yes I can!