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Ferguson In Flames, Shots Fired, Police Car Destroyed, Tear-Gas Deployed, Looting; NYC Brooklyn & Triborough Bridge & LA Freeways Blocked

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Protests have gone nationwide

 

New York Live Feed:

 

 

And in LA... blocked I-10

Oakland protest gettng violent... and have blocked I-580


Broadcast live streaming video on Ustream

 

And Ferguson is in flames...

 

 

And a CNN reporter just got hit in the head with a rock live on air

UPDATE:

  • *U.S. DEPT. OF JUSTICE PROBE OF BROWN SHOOTING CONTINUES: HOLDER
  • *FEDERAL INQUIRY IS INDEPENDENT OF LOCAL FERGUSON PROBE: HOLDER
  • *ATTORNEY GENERAL ERIC HOLDER CALLS FOR END OF VIOLENCE

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UPDATE: Live Reaction Feed in Ferguson:

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Tiananmen Square?

 

 

 

 

 

Response in NYC

Officer Wilson's response...

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The Grand Jury result will be announced at 9ET...

  • *WILSON WON'T BE CHARGED, MICHAEL BROWN'S FAMILY SAY: USATODAY
  • *FERGUSON POLICE OFFICER AVOIDS INDICTMENT FOR TEEN'S KILLING
  • *GRAND JURY RETURNS NO TRUE BILL ON ALL 5 POSS. CHARGES
  • *OFFICER DARREN WILSON SHOT UNARMED BLACK TEENAGER IN MISSOURI

 

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AG McCullough appeared to blame social media...

For those wondering why release the decision so late

Live Feed (via NBC)

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Crowds are gathering

 

 

 

Just in case...

UPDATE: The Ferguson School District has been closed for tomorrow.

 

And protests are spreading

And citywide Tactical alert...

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Having quietly got married this weekend, the 28-year-old Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson - who fatally shot unarmed black teen Michael Brown in August - will discover shortly after 5pmET today if he will stand trial for Brown's death after the grand jury verdict is released by the St.Louis prosecutors office. As Brown's lawyer previously noted "ninety-nine percent of the time the police officer is not held accountable for killing a young black boy," Crump said. "The police officer gets all the consideration." Dragging the decision out over the weekend has some fearing it has merely stoked tensions, and protests have already been arranged for later this evening. Police, as we previously noted, are prepared; and the White House has reiterated their call for calm. After-school activities in Ferguson have been cancelled (somewhat suggesting the outcome is not what Ferguson residents are hoping for).

We shall see shortly...

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Some background color from ABC


More ABC US news | ABC World News

The Grand Jury

 

 

Locals are preparing

 

The White House has reiterated its calls for peaceful protest...

Perhaps something to consider...

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Could be a long night...

 

Maybe the preparation was worth it...

 

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Media is in Ferguson en masse

 

Not everyone agrees with the decision...

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A timeline of key events following the fatal police shooting of 18-year-old Michael Brown in the St. Louis suburb of Ferguson. (via FOX)

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AUG. 9 — Brown and a companion, both black, are confronted by an officer as they walk back to Brown's home from a convenience store. Brown and the officer, who is white, are involved in a scuffle, followed by gunshots. Brown dies at the scene, and his body remains in the street for four hours in the summer heat. Neighbors later lash out at authorities, saying they mistreated the body.

AUG. 10 — After a candlelight vigil, people protesting Brown's death smash car windows and carry away armloads of looted goods from stores. In the first of several nights of violence, looters are seen making off with bags of food, toilet paper and alcohol. Some protesters stand atop police cars and taunt officers.

AUG. 11 — The FBI opens an investigation into Brown's death, and two men who said they saw the shooting tell reporters that Brown had his hands raised when the officer approached with his weapon and fired repeatedly. That night, police in riot gear fire tear gas and rubber bullets to try to disperse a crowd.

AUG. 12 — Ferguson Police Chief Thomas Jackson cancels plans to release the name of the officer who shot Brown, citing death threats against the police department and City Hall.

AUG. 14 — The Missouri Highway Patrol takes control of security in Ferguson, relieving St. Louis County and local police of their law-enforcement authority following four days of violence. The shift in command comes after images from the protests show many officers equipped with military style gear, including armored vehicles, body armor and assault rifles. In scores of photographs that circulate online, officers are seen pointing their weapons at demonstrators.

AUG. 15 — Police identify the officer who shot Brown as Darren Wilson, 28. They also release a video purporting to show Brown robbing a convenience store of almost $50 worth of cigars shortly before he was killed, a move that further inflames protesters.

AUG. 16 — Missouri Gov. Jay Nixon declares a state of emergency and imposes a curfew in Ferguson.

AUG. 17 — Attorney General Eric Holder orders a federal medical examiner to perform another autopsy on Brown.

AUG. 18 — Nixon calls the National Guard to Ferguson to help restore order and lifts the curfew.

AUG. 19 — Nixon says he will not seek the removal of St. Louis County prosecutor Bob McCulloch from the investigation into Brown's death. Some black leaders questioned whether the prosecutor's deep family connections to police would affect his ability to be impartial. McCulloch's father was a police officer who was killed in the line of duty when McCulloch was a child, and he has many relatives who work in law enforcement.

AUG. 20 — Holder visits Ferguson to offer assurances about the investigation into Brown's death and to meet with investigators and Brown's family. In nearby Clayton, a grand jury begins hearing evidence to determine whether Wilson should be charged.

AUG. 21 — Nixon orders the National Guard to begin withdrawing from Ferguson.

SEPT. 25 — Holder announces his resignation but says he plans to remain in office until his successor is confirmed.

SEPT. 25 — Ferguson Chief Tom Jackson releases a videotaped apology to Brown's family and attempts to march in solidarity with protesters, a move that backfires when Ferguson officers scuffle with demonstrators and arrest one person moments after Jackson joins the group.

OCT. 10 — Protesters from across the country descend on the St. Louis region for "Ferguson October," four days of coordinated and spontaneous protests. A weekend march and rally in downtown St. Louis draws several thousand participants.

OCT. 13 — Amid a downpour, an interfaith group of clergy cross a police barricade on the final day of Ferguson October as part of an event dubbed "Moral Monday." The protests extend beyond Ferguson to sites such as the nearby headquarters of Fortune 500 company Emerson Electric and the Edward Jones Dome in downtown St. Louis, site of a Monday Night Football game between the St. Louis Rams and the San Francisco 49ers.

OCT. 21 — Nixon pledges to create an independent Ferguson Commission to examine race relations, failing schools and other broader social and economic issues in the aftermath of Brown's death.

NOV. 17 — The Democratic governor declares a state of emergency and activates the National Guard again ahead of a decision from a grand jury. He places the St. Louis County Police Department in charge of security in Ferguson, with orders to work as a unified command with St. Louis city police and the Missouri Highway Patrol.

NOV. 18 — Nixon names 16 people to the Ferguson Commission, selecting a diverse group that includes the owner of construction-supply company, two pastors, two attorneys, a university professor, a 20-year-old community activist and a police detective. Nine of its members are black. Seven are white.

NOV. 24 - Grand Jury finds...

 

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Mon, 11/24/2014 - 17:59 | 5483228 LFMayor
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And now it's TIMES

for dem MonkahSHINES!

Mon, 11/24/2014 - 18:04 | 5483244 TheAnalOG
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Looking at that dope Michael Brown in a grad cap reminds us that a diploma or a degree is the new "barbarous relic".

Mon, 11/24/2014 - 18:06 | 5483263 kaiserhoff
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Looters are NOT protestors.  Cut off dey checks.

That will take all the fun out of showing dey asses.

Mon, 11/24/2014 - 18:08 | 5483269 TheAnalOG
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Cheques or muh EBT?

Mon, 11/24/2014 - 18:13 | 5483288 StackShinyStuff
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No seriously let's just wait until it's really dark outside so it will be easier for police to protect, no wait...

Mon, 11/24/2014 - 18:18 | 5483313 Deathrips
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Wheres the list of 85 cities that enact martial law tonight..no matter the outcome?

 

RIPS

Mon, 11/24/2014 - 18:27 | 5483353 Pool Shark
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Repost from last Ferguson thread:

If I were black, I would be afraid of other blacks. They're the ones that are 90.4% likely to kill me. Whites; not so much (8.0%)

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2010/crime-in-the-u.s.-2010/tables/10shrtbl06.xls

Given that blacks account for only 13.2% of the American popuation, blacks are 48 times more likely to be murderers of other blacks than are whites.

I realize this is not politically-correct, but it is the truth...

Mon, 11/24/2014 - 18:32 | 5483384 XqWretch
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Whatever, fuck this cop and all cops. Hang all those fucking nazis. I dont care if its a race issue or not, cops are parasites and fucking pirates that plunder and molest all citizens in this country.

Mon, 11/24/2014 - 18:42 | 5483424 American Dissident
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You are special!

Mon, 11/24/2014 - 18:44 | 5483431 gmrpeabody
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Another Darwin Award candidate...

Mon, 11/24/2014 - 19:03 | 5483490 AssFire
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Announcing this to 70,000 Detroiters (with free tickets) just as they arrive at the NFL game - that's the work of a community agitator uh, organizer!!!

Mon, 11/24/2014 - 19:06 | 5483521 MeMadMax
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These people are terrorists...

 

We don't think of them that way because they are not beheading people and wearing towels over their heads...

 

But what is the terrorists' #1 goal? 

 

To spread fear...

 

Just what these people are doing...

Mon, 11/24/2014 - 19:17 | 5483537 AssFire
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Fuck, I forgot this...(my hemorrhoid awareness month ribbon)

today's tip: If you asshole itches after taking a dump, make sure to wash it well with a little cool water on a washcloth; pat it softly, don't rub it.

Mon, 11/24/2014 - 19:19 | 5483569 rfaze
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The rules of Project Mayhem are 
1. You do not ask questions about Project Mayhem. 
2. You do not ask questions about Project Mayhem! 
3. No Excuses 
4. No Lies 
5. You have to trust Tyler Durden.

Mon, 11/24/2014 - 19:34 | 5483634 Whoa Dammit
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Now I know why all the local hoodies were swarming back to their Section 8 housing in mass earlier this evening. They all have to get ready for the verdict. 

Mon, 11/24/2014 - 19:59 | 5483744 MagicHandPuppet
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Whitey will PAY!

 

 

Mon, 11/24/2014 - 20:07 | 5483776 0b1knob
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Hoodie are frightening.  You never know what may be hidden underneath.

http://hothag.com/gifs/boobs/hoodie-flasher-1737.html

 

Mon, 11/24/2014 - 20:20 | 5483809 outamyeffinway
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LFMayor, you're a fuckhead.

 

But look what you've accomplished! You provoked the HERD into one racially biased comment after another. Who the fuck are Zhedgers anyway? It seems a bunch of cockwads. Obviously not reading Denningers analysis of the situation. This cop appears to be a murderer. But hey, no one has a right to be angry about that.

Zhedgers can't wait for communism. Dumb fuckers.

Mon, 11/24/2014 - 20:33 | 5483879 gmrpeabody
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Guess that public education just didn't work out too good for you, eh?

Mon, 11/24/2014 - 20:59 | 5483948 Jack Napier
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ZH exists within the same reality as all the ignorant racists. There's bound to be some crossover. Put any person behind a keyboard with no consequences for saying whatever they like, and you're bound to get some garbage that would normally lead to a swift ass kicking. There's simply no avoiding human nature. Even though some of us may manage to subdue it temporarily, there are always those moments of weakness, or those people who couldn't care less about having moral fiber. The people who think they have the solution are definitely part of the problem, because they don't understand that you have to be the change you want to see in the world. Anyone projecting negativity is part of the problem. Anyone feeding the frenzy is part of the problem. I am part of the problem, but I've taken the first step toward recovery by understanding that.

Mon, 11/24/2014 - 21:13 | 5484010 Bangalore Equit...
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Listen.
You can't touch this [x5]

My, my, my music hits me so hard
Makes me say "Oh my Lord"
Thank you for blessing me
With a mind to rhyme and two hype feet
It feels good, when you know you're down
A super dope homeboy from the Oaktown
And I'm known as such
And this is a beat, uh, you can't touch

I told you homeboy (You can't touch this)
Yeah, that's how we living and you know (You can't touch this)
Look at my eyes, man (You can't touch this)
Yo, let me bust the funky lyrics (You can't touch this)

Fresh new kicks, advance
You gotta like that, now you know you wanna dance
So move, outta your seat
And get a fly girl and catch this beat
While it's rolling, hold on
Pump a little bit and let 'em know it's going on
Like that, like that
Cold on a mission so fall them back
Let 'em know, that you're too much
And this is a beat, uh, you can't touch

Yo, I told you (You can't touch this)
Why you standing there, man? (You can't touch this)
Yo, sound the bell, school is in, sucka (You can't touch this)

Give me a song, or rhythm
Make 'em sweat, that's what I'm giving 'em
Now, they know
You talking about the Hammer you talking about a show
That's hype, and tight
Singers are sweating so pass them a wipe
Or a tape, to learn
What's it gonna take in the 90's to burn
The charts? Legit
Either work hard or you might as well quit

That's word because you know...

You can't touch this [x3]

Break it down! (Music breaks down) Stop, Hammer time!

Go with the funk, it is said
That if you can't groove to this then you probably are dead
So wave your hands in the air
Bust a few moves, fun your fingers through your hair
This is it, for a winner
Dance to this and you're gonna get thinner
Move, slide your rump
Just for a minute let's all do the bump, bump, bump

Yeah... (You can't touch this)
Look, man (You can't touch this)
You better get hype, boy, because you know (You can't touch this)
Ring the bell, school's back in (You can't touch this)

Break it down! (Crazy bridge) Stop, Hammer time!

You can't touch this [x4]

Break it down! (Nice pants, Hammer) Stop, Hammer time!

Every time you see me
The Hammer's just so hype
I'm dope on the floor and I'm magic on the mic
Now why would I ever stop doing this?
With others making records that just don't hit
I've toured around the world, from London to the Bay
It's "Hammer, go Hammer, MC Hammer, yo Hammer"
And the rest can go and play

You can't touch this [x8]

Mon, 11/24/2014 - 22:30 | 5484270 TeamDepends
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School's out for riots
(Bunah!!!!)
School's out for lootin'

Mon, 11/24/2014 - 22:47 | 5484339 Gaius Frakkin' ...
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Everyone feels the noose of Uncle Satan tightening. Let the Negroes in Missouri fight their way. Let the Cowboys in Nevada fight their way. So on and so forth. I have my own way. To each his own.

Mon, 11/24/2014 - 22:57 | 5484394 Divine Wind
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LIVE like a thug,

DIE like a thug.

 

Officer Wilson deserves a medal for national service

Mon, 11/24/2014 - 23:00 | 5484409 Savyindallas
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asshole  -he shot him 12 times. He wanted to make very sure he was dead. 

Mon, 11/24/2014 - 23:03 | 5484426 Oldwood
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As would I

Mon, 11/24/2014 - 23:39 | 5484609 disabledvet
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I did see the Army just upgraded to the Smith and Wesson as "9 shots aint enough with ye olde 9 mil."

Don't know of any 12 shot pistols but apparently that dude was serious about his cigarellos.

That would be the dude who stole the cigarellos.  I'm assuming the officer after "unfriending" Mr Brown didn't take the cigarellos and light one up...then "proceed through the neighborhood terminator style."

No I didnt get an invite to the wedding either.

Not that I was expecting one.

Mon, 11/24/2014 - 23:52 | 5484672 Tom Servo
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I lived there (St Louis and St. Charles county) for 35 years.  And the demographics of the GJ match the demographics of the St. Louis County area.  Just because one jurisdiction (Ferguson) is 67% black, doesn't mean that represents the whiole of St. Louis County.  The GJ was convened in May and hears all sorts of cases, so it's not like it was "stacked" as certain agenda having fools say....

 

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 00:13 | 5484776 BaBaBouy
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Just Imagine If Furgusson Was 100% Black...

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 01:55 | 5485034 James_Cole
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Y'all may think your white skin protects you and you can crow all you like about des evil black folkz, but from what I can tell the gap in the eyes of the law between poor white people and poor black people is getting narrower by the day.

If your annual income has less than 6 numbers before the decimal point, rest assured they'll be coming for you soon. Got guns? Ok, cool. But they got drones bitchez. 

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 03:06 | 5485122 sylviasays
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Please libtard, ya'll need to stroll through Ferguson and let des evil black folkz play the knock out game to knock some sense into ya'll. 

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 04:41 | 5485197 Supernova Born
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9PM release of grand jury info?

TPTB WANTED this shit.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 05:48 | 5485248 Supernova Born
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If you were planning a party and you WANTED it to get totally out of hand, what time would you choose for it to start?

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 10:35 | 5485768 bob_stl
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If it wasn't for all of these liberal racists who think blacks can't stand on their own two feet and do something for themselves, they woulnd't be kept in perpetual poverty unless by their own choice. It's still their own choice I suppose, but the liberal racists incentivize apathy and perpetuate the myth of white oppression.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 08:30 | 5485411 OceanX
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And tanks, and jets and banks and germs...

Mon, 11/24/2014 - 23:59 | 5484710 mjcOH1
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"As would I"

Ditto. When in doubt, empty the magazine.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 01:42 | 5485016 The9thDoctor
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75% White Jury in a town that is 67% black?

It is like the Just Us system is wanting race riots to occur.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 02:51 | 5485108 The_Prisoner
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bingo!

The riots are a desired outcome. Allow for further destruction of middle class wealth and erosion of rights.

I'll change my opinion when pigs' houses start getting torched instead of QTs.

Wed, 11/26/2014 - 19:14 | 5485217 Supernova Born
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The9thDoctor fucked up his post because didn't begin with a block quote to deter downvotes (as is his proclivity).

The9thDoctor HATES a second opinion.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 03:13 | 5485129 sylviasays
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"75% White Jury in a town that is 67% black?"

The grand jury could determine only whether probable cause exists to indict Wilson, not whether he is guilty. If the jury had returned an indictment, a separate trial jury would have been seated to decide whether to convict or acquit him.

The grand jury was composed of 12 people "selected at random from a fair cross-section of the citizens," according to Missouri law. 

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/answers-questions-ferguson-grand-jury...

 

So juries have to be of the same race, ethnicity and gender of the suspect to investigate an incident? Not! 

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 10:37 | 5485776 bob_stl
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St. Louis county is 75% white. Ferguson is part of St. Louis county. There is no such thing as a Ferguson municipal grand jury.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 01:43 | 5485018 disabledvet
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Ever been to Jackson, Mississippi?

 

I have.

 

How about Port Au Prince? Yep, there too.

 

Truth works better than paranoia in my view.  Don't know at what point we "cross over" here..but that will happen at some point.  Anarchy is not "normative."

Mon, 11/24/2014 - 23:00 | 5484404 mjcOH1
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"Listen.
You can't touch this [x5]"

Like a turd that just won't flush...

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 08:38 | 5485429 OceanX
Mon, 11/24/2014 - 22:31 | 5484278 InjectTheVenom
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your mother must be so proud of you ...

Mon, 11/24/2014 - 22:53 | 5484372 Oliver Klozoff
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Now that the verdict is in, the Brown family owes an apology for their son's outrageous behavior.

Society demands it.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 12:23 | 5486220 photonsoflight
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At least the cops won't send them a bill for the bullets like in china.

Mon, 11/24/2014 - 23:47 | 5484645 nuke ISIS now
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Listen You clearly are a racist shit dick cockhead dick sucker......Listen place your head back in your ass where it belongs...you piece of shit mother fucking immigrant putz

Listen, Let me guess...you sit in some third world shit hole, and attempt to case aspersions at the US what a joke, you fucking cunt

Listen, Listen, Listen..Bang the dick...you fuckhead fuck you fuck you

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 03:15 | 5485131 The_Prisoner
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now, now...
The US is number one in getting into everyone's shit. So at the very least you can man-up and take a few aspersions. regardless from which shit hole it comes from. Because if you take a look at the world, there is not a shit hole that the US has not made shit-holier. (see what I did there?)

Or is the cognitive dissonance getting a bit too painful for you, princess?

Mon, 11/24/2014 - 21:19 | 5484032 Oldwood
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Be they communists, fascist, anarchist, or racists, it matters not as they all use the same means to make their point, division and violence. But, if we had a group of white men with some justifiable grievance, burning an pillaging, they would be shot dead in the street with no blowback whatsoever. The Tea Party has been portrayed as a threat to America yet no violence, no destruction, not even recorded "hate speach", but for a black, and increasingly so for Hispanics, violence is an acceptable social response as they are "justified". Society will have a chance when blacks can legitimately referred to as racists by the MSM.

Mon, 11/24/2014 - 23:55 | 5484684 sylviasays
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"Tiananmen Square?"

Please, more like Thug Square. 

 

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 01:55 | 5485022 AmericanFUPAcabra
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If you think the Tea Party is the knight in shining armor you are in for a real treat. They have already been co-opted, side-tracked and bought out by corporate interests. They will be nothing more than the fodder that is picked off in the primary elections that leave you (us) with Bush Vs. Clinton. They will be the Newt Gingrich and Herman Cain of 2016. This should give you a years+ headstart to prep some more whiney pandering bullshit you can post all over these forums about how your party didn't get elected. Your party will either kneel and gobble the military-industrial/pharma/communist cock or it won't get elected. Plain and simple. Your next president will be Jeb Bush because our populous has that short of an attention span. Enjoy the shitty televised 'debates' and theatrics along the way. 

The only "threat to America" as you put it, is a populace that can agree on the fact that we are being ass fucked every day by uncle sam. So long as they can be divided by race, socioeconomic 'boundaries', religious and political beliefs, social media etc. then we are doomed. The fact that you bring up a "group of white men with some justifiable greivance" shows that you are still playing in to racial divisions and they are winning. Get it? See? You then go on to say how if blacks could be referred to as racists on MSM then everyhing would be somehow different? Then everything would be fixed? Really? You have all the pieces to the puzzle right in front of you but it appears to me that you are colorblind and will keep banging you head on the wall until Glen Beck's dick steers you in to the direction most desired by his "sponsors".

Edit: Bush and Clinton family are cousins. Enjoy that red white and blue dick jammed up your ass (sic. george carlin rip)

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 09:08 | 5485517 Oldwood
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Of course we are being divided by race. This was my point about Tea party perspectives. They are deliberately pointing minorities at those who populate the tea party and they are implementing policies that give cause for derision against the poor and blacks. Why do you think it took three months for a grand jury? They wanted time for this to ferment, time for groups to organize.

Until the media is willing to attribute actions to their perpetrators nothing will change. They are busy covering and obfuscating everything to protect the administration's agenda. The media is what "decides" what is up or down. Not saying we don't have a choice in what we believe, but you cannot ignore the constant propaganda.

The main thing is to point out you hate filled rant at what is glaringly obvious to anyone other than a person who is religiously opposed to ANYTHING with a conservative theme. YOU are the one with the cock in your mouth. Close it and spit and maybe your eyes will clear.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 12:19 | 5486206 AmericanFUPAcabra
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For the record, I'm more conservative than the Tea Party claims to be.

Wed, 11/26/2014 - 09:59 | 5490500 DukeDog
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Is Jack the one he's been waiting for?

Mon, 11/24/2014 - 21:04 | 5483979 11b40
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Thank you. I fear the site has become a Creten magnet.

Mon, 11/24/2014 - 21:16 | 5484025 Bangalore Equit...
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Listen.

Don McLean wrote the song "American Pie" in 1971. What do the Lyrics mean?

Listen let's go into this.

Verse 1

A long, long time ago...
American Pie was written in 1971 and the time McLean is going to talk about is the 1950's. This seems
like a long time ago 'cause of all the turmoil that occurred in the 60's.

I can still remember how that music used to make me smile.
McLean's favorite music was that of the 50's.

And I knew if I had my chance, that I could make those people dance, and maybe they'd be happy for a while.
In the 50's, the major purpose of music was for dancing (sock hops). He wanted to play rock & roll so people could have a good time.

But February made me shiver
Buddy Holly died on February 3, 1959 in a plane crash in Iowa. He was McLean's hero.

With every paper I'd deliver
Donny boy's only other job besides songwriting was a paper boy.

Bad news on the doorstep, I couldn't take one more step
This story was obviously on the frickn' front page and made McLean freeze in his tracks.

I can't remember if I cried
He can't remember if he cried.

When I read about his widowed bride
Holly's wife was pregnant when the accident occurred and soon after had a miscarriage.

But something touched me deep inside
I don't even wanna know!

The day the music died.
The crash took the lives of three current rock legends: Holly, Richie Valens and the Big Bopper, so now Feb. 3, 1959 is called "The day the music died." The music that died is considered the standard rock & roll songs. The crash was the final blow («--keyword) to this music 'cause these three were that only major artists left. Elvis was drafted, Little Richard (or "Little Dick") turned gospel, and Chuck Berry was arrested for screwin' a prostitute.

Verse 2

Did you write the book of love?
"The Book of Love" was a hit in 1968 by the Monotones.

And do you have faith in God above, if the Bible tells you so?
In 1955, Don Cornell wrote "The Bible Tells Me So" and there is a Sunday School song "Jesus Loves Me," with the line "For the Bible tells me so."

Now do you believe in rock & roll?
This is from the great song "Do You Believe in Magic?" by the Lovin' Spoonful, written by John Sebastin in 1965. One of the lines is like trying to teach a stranger 'bout rock & roll," and another is "the magic's in the music and the music's in me." The "magic" this Johnny was talking about is the ability of a song to stick in your head. Often times songs bring back memories of the past, this is what the magic is. This magic is especially in rock & roll, 'cause you experience it without thinking about it or trying to analyze the bloody lyrics (like some asshole is right now). Another lyric is "so just blow your mind." (Don't think about it).

Can music save your mortal soul?
Given all that, can music help you get though life? I'm sorry I can't answer that. All of these questions ask about life and if God exists.

And, can you teach me how to dance real slow?
Dancing in the 50's wasn't like it is today. If you danced with someone, you then were committed to them.

Now I know that you're in love with him, 'cause I saw you dancing in the gym.
Like I said, dancing was serious shit. McLean caught his love cheating on him.

You both kicked off your shoes
Reference to a "sock hop."

Man, I dig those rhythm and blues
He's depressed, and you listen to that kinda of music. There's a style of music for every feeling.

I was a lonely teenage broncin' buck
ummmm.....yeah, so was I......

With a pink carnation and a pickup truck
A pickup truck was a symbol of sexual freedom (and it rhymes with "buck" and "luck"), and Marty Robbins had a hit with "A White sport Coat (And a Pink Carnation) in 1957.

But I knew I was out of luck, the day the music died.
These old crazy things that worked in the fifty's no longer work, 'cause the 60's brought a new social revolution. Peace Out!

Verse 3

Now for ten years we've been on our own

The music died 1959, McLean more than likely started writing this song around 1969.

And moss grows fat on a rolling stone
The great Bob Dylan wrote "Like a Rolling Stone" in 1965. This was his first MAJOR change from folk music. In late 1966, Dylan was involved in a motorcycle accident, and hid in his house in Woodstock, NY for a good year, hence the "fat," and the moss shows the time change. Dylan didn't really get his muse back till 1975.

but that's not how it used to be.
McLean liked Dylan as a folk singer in the early sixties more than his folk-rock style in the mid sixties. (I wonder what he thinks of Dylan's religious phase!)

When the jester sang for the king and queen
Ok, the jester's Bob Dylan. The king is Peter Seger and the queen is Joan Baez. These were the two big names in folk at the time early '60's). During the Newport Folk Festival in 1963, Dylan was honored to play his own set and then combine with these two legends to sing his song "Blowin' in the Wind."

In a coat he borrowed from James Dean
In the Dean movie "Rebel Without A Cause," he wears a red windbreaker. On the cover of the Dylan's "Freewheelin'," he is seen also in a red windbreaker. This cover also resembles a famous picture of Dean. This ties in with the previous line 'cause this album is were Dylan really took off, with such songs as "Blowin' in the Wind" and "A Hard Rain's A-Gonna Fall."

And a voice that came from you and me.
This means two things. 1. Dylan was the spokesman for the 60's (and he was) and 2. He didn't have the best singing voice in the world, and even you and me could sing like him (but you could write like him if Shakespeare «he's in the alley» himself told you what to say!)

Oh, and while the king was looking down
This could mean two things; Pete Seger remained a traditional folk singer, while Dylan was constantly reinvented himself and therefore became unbelievably popular. This could also be a reference to Elvis (the King of rock and roll), because he joined the U.S. Army and reportedly dropped his soap everyday in the shower.

The jester stole his thorny crown
While Elvis was in the army, Dylan took his spotlight and changed the whole music business. The thorny crown is the price of fame, and is referenced with Jesus's thorny crown before he was murdered.

The courtroom was adjourned, no verdict was returned
This deals with the Kennedy assassination. Lee Harvey Oswald was never convicted because he was murdered.

And while Lennon read a book of Marx
This is about the Beatles music becoming political. Songs like "Revolution" (1968) (which actually mentions Chairman Mao) were much different then "Love Me Do" (1963). Many American adults thought the Beatles were bad for the American youth, especially after Lennon's remark in 1966 about Christianity. He said "Christianity will go. It will vanish and shrink. I needn't argue with that; I'm right and I will be proved right. We're more popular than Jesus now; I don't know which will go first: rock 'n' roll or Christianity." This started anti-Beatles burnings and such.

The quartet practiced in the park
The quartet was the Beatles (there were four, not including if Paul McCartney is really dead!) and the park thing is Candlestick Park, the place of their last concert. It was practicing 'cause their music would grow after they stopped touring (their first project after this was "Sgt. Pepper" which is considered the best album of all time).

And we sang dirges in the dark, the day the music died.
A dirge is a funeral song. These songs were for the Kennedy's (John and Robert) and Martin Luther King, all who died in the mid 60's. And remember- "Dark" rhythms with "Park"

Verse 4

Helter Skelter in a summer swelter
Charles Manson is one of the most dangerous cereal killers ever (his favorite was coco-puffs). In the summer of 1968, he massacred an entire family 'cause of the Beatles song "Helter Skelter," which appeared on the white album. He thought that the Beatles were warning America about the racial conflict and it was "coming down fast." He thought the Beatles were the four angels mentioned in the Book of Revelation in the Bible. Manson wrote the title of the song on the wall in blood after committing the murders. Also, he thought in "Revolution 9" that Lennon was saying "rise" instead of "right," thought the line "They need a damn good wacking" from "Piggies" was telling him to kill people and the "Hollywood Song" in "Honey Pie" was about him 'cause he lived near Hollywood. He was dropping too much acid and thought the Beatles were talking directly to him and told him to kill those people.

The Byrd flew off with to a fallout shelter
The Byrd's were a popular folk-rock group, with the huge cover of Dylan's "Mr. Tambourine Man," in 1965. One of the members was arrested for possession of marijuana and a fallout shelter was another name for a rehab program. A strange note is that Dylan's "Mr. Tambourine Man" appeared on his "Bringing It All Back Home" record, and on the lower left corner of the cover is a fallout shelter sign.

Eight miles high and falling fast.
"Eight Miles High" was the first ever psychedelic song (it was written while high on speed, and the sound of the guitar was supposed to sound like a saxophone). The falling fast part is probably about the fact that the Byrd's abandoned folk-rock for country music with the album "Sweetheart of the Rodeo," in 1967

Then landed in the foul grass
Foul grass meaning marijuana.

The players tried for a forward pass
Here the football metaphor starts. The players are the protesters in the 60's. The forward pass was their movement to change the situation they were in, full of government corruption.

With the jester, on the sidelines in a cast.
emember jester=Dylan. In late 1966, while riding near his house in Woodstock, NY, he briefly glanced into the sun and lost control of his bike. When he went to brake, they locked up on him and sent him flying off the motorcycle. It took him about 9 months to recover (or was he just pregnant and trying to hide it from the world????), in which time he very rarely left the house, hence the cast.

Now the half time air was sweet perfume
Flower Power, groovy baby! Drugs, man, drugs.

While sergeants played a marching tune
Sgt. Pepper, Beatles, 1967, recently named the most influencal album of all time. First ever concept album. First to have lyrics printed on the back. First to have a design on the protector of the record. Included an elaborate cover design and cut-outs. As far as the music goes, it had drug references in Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds, sitars, animal sounds and studio trickery. In the song "Being for the Benefit of Mr. Kite!" at one point in the sound the engineer was instructed to cut the tape into small pieces, scatter them around, then tape them back together. In "A Day in the Life" (which was banned from the radio 'cause of the drug reference line "I'd Love to Turn You On"), after the piano cords die out, there is a minute of silence, followed by a high pitched sound (by the request of John Lennon, especially to annoy the family dog), then a loop of Beatles gibberish to make the owners of the LP think that the needle had stuck! What was I talking about again?

We all got up to dance, but we never got the chance
Oh yeah, American Pie!! That's a good song...anyway, the Beatles helped to start a new kind of music that was meant to be listened and not danced to (how do you dance to "Within You and Without You"?).

'Cause the players tried to take the field
Players=Protesters. In 1968, at the Chicago Democratic convention, protesters rioted, and some were beaten by the police. It is now known as the days of rage. Also in 1970, at Kent State University, four students were killed by the National Guard in response to their anti-Vietnam protests, which inspired the song "Ohio" by CSN & Neil Young.

The marching band refused to yield
The Beatles had some anti-violence songs that made protesters think twice about the way they were acting. "All You Need is Love" (1967) says there is a better way then violence, and in "Revolution" (1968) one of the lines is "But when you talk about destruction, don't you know that you can count me out." The beatles were in no way pro-government (as seen in 1968's "Piggies," which is about Congressmen), but they were against violence.

Do you recall what was revealed, the day the music died.
So what was revealed? ...well look at today, the president gets more ass then a toilet seat. As Dr. Evil says in Austin Powers, "Face it, freedom failed" or more accurately, the protests failed. The government is more corrupt now then ever before. McLean wasn't a big 60's fan and here is putting down the efforts of the failed generation.

Verse 5

And then we were all in one place
Woodstock Performing Arts Festival took place in August in 1969. 400,000 of McLean's generation were there. It took place at Woodstock (actually Bethel) because that's were Dylan was hiding, and they were hoping he would come out and play. Unfortunately he turned it down for the "Isle of Wright" concert.

A generation lost in space
The moon landing was of course in 1969, David Bowie's "Space Oddity" was released (which was about 'major Tom' who got lost in space), there was a TV show called "Lost in Space" and this is a drug reference, the 60's are generalized by saying everyone in the entire world was on acid.

With no time left to start again
It took them a whole decade to get to this point, the generation's time was quickly fading. McLean thinks they wasted most of there time on drugs.

So come on Jack be nimble, Jack be quick, Jack flash sat on a candlestick
"Jumpin' Jack Flash" was a hit for the Rolling Stones. In this song, McJagger compares himself with Jesus. This line comes from the nursery rhyme that has the line "Jack be nimble, Jack be quick, Jack jumps over a candlestick."

'cause fire is the devil's only friend.
The Stones sold out to the devil. Their only comeback to the Beatles "Sgt. Pepper" was their album "Their Satanic Majesties Request." Seeing that you've probably never heard of this, you can imagine that it pretty much sucks. Also, their song "Sympathy for the Devil," proves that they were desperate to sell their records (the Beatles were SOOOOO much better!). Was it really worth celebrating the devil?

Oh, and as I watched him on the stage
No, it wasn't. In December of 1969, the Stones attempted another Woodstock, this time at Altamont Speedway. This time it was a free concert, with the Hell's Angel's handling the security. The biggest mistake was paying them in advance, but instead of money, with beer and handfuls of acid. While the stones were singing "Sympathy for the Devil," a black man was beaten and stabbed to death by the Hell's Angels. They soon began beating everyone, include a member of the Jefferson Airplane.

My hands were clenched in fists of rage
He was pissed.

No angel born in hell could brake that Satan's spell
"angels born in hell" a.k.a. the "Hell's Angels!" When you have sympathy for the devil, you're asking for trouble.

As the flames climbed high into the night, to light the sacrificial rite
The stones were helicoptered out of there it became so crazy, hence the "climbed high." It's like the Stones started the living hell, and left in the middle of it...what's up with that? The sacrifice to the devil was the man's life.

I saw Satan laughing with delight, the day the music died.
This was the definitive ending of the sixties. The generation that was lost in space was now lost on earth. Before the only violence was between the hippies and the police, now it was amongst themselves. Satan had won, in one final blow.

Verse 6

I met a girl who sang the blues and I asked her for some happy news, but she just smiled and turned away.
Janis Joplin is most the girl who sang the blues. Her big hits were "Piece of My Heart" and "Me and Bobby McGee." She died of an accidental heroin overdose on October 4, 1970. McLean is still trying to find happiness like in the beginning of the song "Maybe they'd be happy for a while," "That music used to make me smile." (Note the tone of the song is very similar in these to verses) But this time the smile isn't for happiness but regret.

I went down to the sacred store
Here he's talking about record stores that sold 50's albums.

Where I heard the music years before, but the man said the music wouldn't play
By the 70's, the 50's music was almost ignored by everyone. Hundreds of great albums were released in the 60's, and it seems that everyone has forgot about the 50's.

And in the streets the children screamed

The youth of America were beaten in the streets especially at the end of the decade. (Like I said earlier, the Kent State murders and the Chicago Democratic Convention)

The lovers cried and the poets dreamed
In Dylan's "A Hard Rain's A-Gonna Fall," he says: "I met one man he was wounded in love, I met another man he was wounded in hatred," showing that love hurts sometimes as much as hate.

But not a word was spoken. The church bells all were broken.
Again in "A Hard Rain...," the line is "I saw ten thousand talkers whose tongues were all broken." Simon and Garfunkel had a hit with "Sound of Silence." The church bells all were broken shows that people have forgotten God. All things are are so sacred are gone, love, faith, happiness, peace. In Dylan's "It's Alright Ma (I'm Only Bleeding)," one verse goes: Disillusioned words like bullets bark . As human gods aim for their mark . Made everything from toy guns that spark . To flesh-colored Christs that glow in the dark . It's easy to see without looking too far. That not much Is really sacred. McLean isn't the only one that feels this way. He was obviously a religious man, and is very disappointed that they have abandoned God.

And the three men I admire most, the Father, Son and Holy Ghost
The trinity of God, McLean was Catholic.

They caught the last train for the coast.
God has left. Time magazine even featured a cover story "Is God Dead?" The generation has failed, and "with no time left to start again." It was now up to the next generation to put things right (and they did a terrible job might I add).

The day the music died. And we were singing....
This last verse is the hardest to explain...Remember, McLean never would talk about what what the lyrics definitely mean, so it's not perfectly clear. Some people believe there were more references to the Kennedy's (him being the king and his wife the queen), but I feel his presence is felt though the songs from the 60's better. Ps, this took me forever.

Refrain

So bye, bye Miss American Pie
Pimp Daddy McLean was dating one of the Miss America contestants during one of the pageants. Also the "American Pie" part is a symbol of the American Dream (at least of the 50's), it was also the name of the plane that crashed and killed Holly (or so goes the rumor).

Drove my Chevy to the levee but the levee was dry
The American automobile was the Chevy. The levee business shows that America wasn't fertile anymore (at least in the sense of music). "Chevy" rhymes with "levee."

And them good old boys were drinking whiskey and rye singing "This will be the day that I die, this will be the day
that I die."
The traditional Americans are depressed with the current lifestyle (60's). The song comes from Buddy Holly's "That'll be the day," that eventually says "that I die."

Another interesting note brought to my attention by Scott Tilles, is that the Levee was a bar in Purchase, NY near McLean's hometown. There is also a Levee, NY which is about 15 minutes from the school he attended.

Mon, 11/24/2014 - 21:38 | 5484101 Rusty Shorts
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..yeah, and then there's Laurel Canyon, California

Mon, 11/24/2014 - 21:43 | 5484118 Bangalore Equit...
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Listen.

Life on the edge of The Hedge. It's a long way down Rusty.

Mon, 11/24/2014 - 22:36 | 5484302 erg
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I scroll past all of your shit. I feel sullied by the interaction. Building a mighty index finger though.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 00:28 | 5484829 TuPhat
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Can't delete it, can scroll through it.  Not worth reading.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 00:21 | 5484801 The Merovingian
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Listen.

You are a herpetic weasel.  Do us all a favor and self-select yourself off this rock.  Personally, I vote for self-immolation.  

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 01:37 | 5485008 Ralph Spoilsport
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+1 for herpetic weasel.

Mon, 11/24/2014 - 22:49 | 5484357 juangrande
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Well I hear that Laurel Canyon

Is full of famous stars

But I hate them worse than lepers

And I'll kill them in their cars

 

Neil Young - Revolution Blues

 

Neil knew Charles Manson well and wrote this song after the fact.

Mon, 11/24/2014 - 21:41 | 5484107 Paveway IV
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Tue, 11/25/2014 - 00:01 | 5484717 Oliver Klozoff
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Lol.

What is with all the song lyrics?

Mon, 11/24/2014 - 22:44 | 5484332 juangrande
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"Sympathy for the Devil" is as profound as anything the Beatles wrote! 

Mon, 11/24/2014 - 23:46 | 5484647 acetinker
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I disagree, Sympathy For The Devil is an order of magnitude more profound than the whole Beatles library.  Don't get me wrong, Across The Universe/She's So Heavy is good, trippy shit-

Sympathy cuts right to the chase.  Got right past the censors, too.  Stupid fucks didn't realize what Michael Phillip had written.

Sun, 11/30/2014 - 01:28 | 5500781 acetinker
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Cereal killer, lol.  Quick!  Somebody go hide the Cocoa Puffs!

Mon, 11/24/2014 - 23:12 | 5484462 GOSPLAN HERO
Mon, 11/24/2014 - 23:33 | 5484585 Rusty Shorts
Mon, 11/24/2014 - 19:23 | 5483594 TahoeBilly2012
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Another lose lose situation in Merica'. 

Mon, 11/24/2014 - 19:33 | 5483616 Handful of Dust
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Al Sharpton's teleprompter is warmng up ....

Mon, 11/24/2014 - 20:04 | 5483760 Bollixed
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Obola's dick is so hard right now it's almost as big as Michelle's.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 07:21 | 5485332 Urban Roman
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Krugman is out of clean underwear.

Mon, 11/24/2014 - 22:53 | 5484383 williambanzai7
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Sharpton has had all of his lines memorized for the past 30 years.

Mon, 11/24/2014 - 19:31 | 5483620 knukles
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What?
Assfire's hemorrhoid treatment?

Nuffin' a little lemon juice, alcohol and salt can't work on.  Gets yer attention. 

Kinda like lye on a kiss on the back of yer hand.

Mon, 11/24/2014 - 19:42 | 5483671 A Lunatic
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I mix up a spoonfull of minced garlic with a spoonful of Vics Vapor rub and added a spoonful of coconut oil. I apply a glob of this to my roids before going to bed everynight.

Mon, 11/24/2014 - 20:00 | 5483741 MsCreant
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If you do this everynight, they are not getting better. Vapor rub sounds painful...

Mon, 11/24/2014 - 20:38 | 5483901 Miffed Microbio...
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Funny what people will do to avoid eating fresh veggies. Of course one person's pleasure is another's torture.

Miffed

Mon, 11/24/2014 - 22:45 | 5484334 WonderDawg
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Oops, wrong spot...

Mon, 11/24/2014 - 22:56 | 5484385 A Lunatic
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Sadly I was drawn into a conversation about an issue I know nothing about in an apparently vain attempt to empathize with and relate to my fellow man on a most basic and primal level. After all what kind of society are we when we cannot be honest and open about the nature and condition of our anal orifice with strangers on an internet forum...??

 

Oops wrong spot for me too, lol. Stand still when I'm talking to you dammit!!

Mon, 11/24/2014 - 23:38 | 5484604 Clashfan
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Never expected a ZH thread to be so amateurish about something this important. Tea tree oil.

Period. The best.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 00:48 | 5484894 25or6to4
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Mscrean
"Vapor rub sounds painful..." I'm just guessing but I think that's the whole point of applying it to his arse.

Mon, 11/24/2014 - 22:46 | 5484340 WonderDawg
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If I was a betting man, I'd bet you're sleeping alone.

Mon, 11/24/2014 - 20:29 | 5483869 NotApplicable
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Bidness as usual.

Mon, 11/24/2014 - 23:28 | 5484563 acetinker
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You ain't really got 'roids until you need to squeeze 'em out good to avoid bleeding in your underpants.  TMI?  Fukit!

BTW, where is the real info in this article?  The headline says it's a done deal, but the body of it is clearly speculation.

Whatever happened to the cop's dislocated eye socket?  If that shit ain't true, NONE OF IT IS TRUE!

I ain't black, but judging by the way the cops have treated me, I gotta come down on Michael's side... but he's dead now.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 05:25 | 5485234 Tall Tom
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I believe in Personal Responsibility.
I am not responsible for shooting an unarmed teenager.
I am not responsible for looting.
So if your Government decides to hold me responsible by imprisoning me to my home by a declaration of Martial Law then I will have no choice other than take an appropriate response to that violation of my Civil Liberties. THERE IS NO EXCUSE!!!

Violence begets violence. This event exposes that we have many worshippers of the state on ZH...fucking pretenders. They are only Liberty loving when it does not involve a black man. They opt for enslavement of the black man while only guaranteeing their own. I am not black either. But that should not even be a noteworthy quality. Yet it is and that is the reality.
Mon, 11/24/2014 - 23:56 | 5484692 fnord
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are you talking about cops?

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 05:00 | 5485214 Socratic Dog
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These people are terrorists?

Shit, for a moment there I thought you meant the protestors.  You meant the cops.  Agreed.  Terrorists in uniform.

Mon, 11/24/2014 - 23:20 | 5484515 Paveway IV
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It's about a half-hour after the announcement, and the Ferguson cops are already on the bullhorns yelling at people to get off the street or they will be arrested. 

Absolutely fucking genius!

Like the most important thing on earth right now in Ferguson is to maintain a clear path for traffic at all times on the streets for public safety.

The cops will provoke the crowd with tear gas and clubs in the next hour or so. Guaranteed.

If the fucking Stazi would have taken the night off, the people of Ferguson could have protected their own damn city without the cops.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 09:27 | 5485575 Oldwood
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You mean protect like the way they "protect" their young black men who spend a lot of time killing each other, far in excess of ANYTHING cops are doing. If people want others to respect their lives, I would suggest that they demonstrate some respect for their own lives. Instead as is a recurring theme around the world, they find it perfectly acceptable to sacrifice their own to benefit their "cause", which may be nothing more than personal advancement in minority rights pimping. Now they are demonstrating how much they care through destruction of property of people who NOTHING to do with their problems. If they had any balls, they would attack the actual entity that they think is their enemy...the government, but instead they placate their "rage" through theft and destruction. I'm so tired of people excusing this stupidity. People who cannot learn or even worse still, refuse to learn, deserve every shit storm they enter. So many here constantly harp, and rightly so, about charts and "fundamentals" of our economy, yet fall into an emotional heap of hateful zealotry choosing to ignore absolutely every statistic relative to these circumstances. Blacks have become a wholly self destructive group and until THEY decide to do something different, their circumstances will never change. Meanwhile we will continue to fund police to interject themselves into these circumstances and be attacked for it, or choose to stand clear and let them self destruct and be attacked for that as well.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 15:14 | 5487321 Paveway IV
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You are obviously more of an expert on 'those blacks' then I could ever hope to be. I made the naive assumption that they were rational human beings just like me.

I'll defer to your expert knowledge.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 17:41 | 5488070 DarkLordofSadNews
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the stats clearly show the violence as a % between same race murders are same. sure blacks are economically disadvantaged ,

doesn't always make them dangerous 

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 03:40 | 5485157 fringus
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Like the special Olympics.

Mon, 11/24/2014 - 18:46 | 5483437 spinone
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There are good cops and bad cops.

Mon, 11/24/2014 - 18:50 | 5483458 Pool Shark
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There are good posters and bad posters...

 

Mon, 11/24/2014 - 21:00 | 5483965 Son of Captain Nemo
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Too bad Darrell ain't that handsome!

If you have to die with a bullet in your brain for doing nothing that violates the law you want "Ponch" to be the one to pop a cap in your head!

Mon, 11/24/2014 - 22:55 | 5484389 Freddie
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No too bad Darrell ain't that Hispanic.   What til the hispanics are in charge.  The blacks voted for it.  Blacks are not treated well by hispanics in S Calif.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 01:49 | 5485023 sylviasays
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That be ray-cist! 

Mon, 11/24/2014 - 19:08 | 5483531 Tek Kinkreet
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If good cops do nothing about the bad cops in their department, they are not good cops.

Mon, 11/24/2014 - 19:25 | 5483595 benb
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Heart of the issue.

Mon, 11/24/2014 - 19:32 | 5483624 DaddyO
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Have we all forgotten why cops carry guns?

Is it to serve and protect the sheeple?

I teach my sheeple that the cop carries to protect himself, period, end of story.

DaddyO

Mon, 11/24/2014 - 20:54 | 5483944 TheAnalOG
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Hey this is "fight club".... so go and flag my account now and whine to the mods you little biatch!

Mon, 11/24/2014 - 21:01 | 5483966 new game
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carry permit=same as post directly above. to protect my life when all else doesn't work first.

imo this officer didn't have an all else doesnt work situation.  exception (of course) bankers.

in fact an open season just like deer hunting would be acceptable to me. banker bucks...

Mon, 11/24/2014 - 19:54 | 5483716 trulz4lulz
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If there are bad cops, that repeatedly get away with murder, assaualt, extortion, theft and multitudes of other crimes, with little to no punishment, then logically this concludes there are no good cops.

Mon, 11/24/2014 - 22:38 | 5484307 dexter_morgan
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What aboiut bad parents that don't do a good job of raising their childeren - if not turned in to authorities by 'good' parents that makes all parents bad?

Mon, 11/24/2014 - 23:42 | 5484627 trulz4lulz
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Thats a false argument and a strawman. Parents have no authority to murder in the streets. Parents cant throw people in prison for looking at them funny. Find a better argument that isnt a strawman, sorry, try again.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 07:52 | 5485364 Dingleberry
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Parents murdered their own kid.

Look how they raised (or didn't) the apsiring rapper, dope head, pre-adult criminal record having, and strong-arm robber who lacks even the self-control to refrain from beating up a cop.

Teach a kid the thug life.....you get the thug life and all of its wonderful attendant consequences.

Fixed it so you can even understand.

Mon, 11/24/2014 - 22:21 | 5484238 spinone
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If good citizens do nothing about the bad citizens in their society, they are not good citizens.

There, fixed it for you.

Mon, 11/24/2014 - 20:12 | 5483791 Aeternus
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All of this seems so..... orchestrated.....

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVpyx2gSYIc

Mon, 11/24/2014 - 23:40 | 5484623 Clashfan
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Really? If there are good cops, why aren't they turning in the bad ones? Hmm...

You folks on here have some Libertarian sympathies, eh? Some problems w/some unions? Ever taken consideration of the pigz' union?

Mon, 11/24/2014 - 18:51 | 5483460 disabledvet
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I did have the opportunity to get some "health care" from some of Missouri's finest and let's just say the authorities "threatening to kill everyone in Missouri" is not a surprise to me. Not that Indiana was any different I might add.

I think it was a mistake to have Ghadaffi's body dragged through the street myself. "Gives the world the wrong idea" as they say. Right up there with "isolating Russia."

I'm sure Governor Nixon has everything under control of course. "Nothing a B-2 Bomber can't solve" I imagine.

Mon, 11/24/2014 - 19:47 | 5483696 MrButtoMcFarty
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LOL...Someone lost a girlfriend to a cop....

 

Mon, 11/24/2014 - 19:56 | 5483730 trulz4lulz
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In most cases its only because he shot her in the head. Thats what you meant by lost, init?

Mon, 11/24/2014 - 20:05 | 5483765 MsCreant
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Cops do have a higher than average rate of domestic violence. 10% for the regular population, depending on the study 20-40% of cop families. Furthermore, they often don't report it through formal channels. Only 1% of cops keep their jobs after a positive drug test. 24% of cops with a DV conviction keep theirs. The only crime they get to commit and keep their job with more frequency is DUI (26%). 

Mon, 11/24/2014 - 20:54 | 5483940 chunga
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Here's a link to Missouri state cops live audio.

http://www.broadcastify.com/listen/feed/17925/web

Mon, 11/24/2014 - 21:46 | 5484127 trulz4lulz
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Hers is a great example of americas finest, doing what they do best, intimidate with fear and like some cases, which is becoming more frequent, murder.

http://www.tokeofthetown.com/2014/11/former_cop_accused_of_killing_wife_...

Mon, 11/24/2014 - 22:40 | 5484325 Quantum Nucleonics
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Let's do an experiement.  Remove all the police from whatever county YOU live in.  Observe results.

Mon, 11/24/2014 - 23:01 | 5484407 tony bonn
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the cops are communists and this rigged grand jury proceding legitimizes the killing of anyone anywhere by any cop - "ooops my bad." the racists on this site think that they will be exempt. in time they will be proven wrong. when a police officer can kill with impunity an unarmed person, terrorism has been inaugurated. this case was holder's crowning achievment for implementing the new world order. but we saw it with the murder of jfk and it has come home to roost.

Mon, 11/24/2014 - 19:26 | 5483605 drendebe10
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Unlike the divisive, disrespectful, down right nasty inflammatory rhetoric by the liar in chief fudge packer and all its progressive liberal democraps, Dr. Ben Carson is a reasonable, calm, level headed voice in this matter.

Dr. Ben Carson for President 2016
www.rubnbenrun.org

Mon, 11/24/2014 - 19:34 | 5483641 Creepy A. Cracker
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rub'n Ben run? ("rubnbenrun.org")  Sounds more like an insult to Dr. Carson than a draft Ben Carson site.

Mon, 11/24/2014 - 19:37 | 5483653 Larry Dallas
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Dr. Ben Carson I think is the reason why Bill Cosby was taken out so fast. I think most politicians were afraid of what Cosby would say after these riots and perhaps endorse Dr. Carson. There's more to that story there that doesn't make sense.

Mon, 11/24/2014 - 20:09 | 5483779 espirit
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Being paid after the fact makes them HOOKERS.

<... or is it before?>

Mon, 11/24/2014 - 22:58 | 5484398 IndyPat
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Carson is anti 2nd Amendment. Fuck em. Don't take the bait.

Mon, 11/24/2014 - 22:50 | 5484358 RaceToTheBottom
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How many of those blacks killed were carrying sandwiches that were mistaken for guns???

 

Mon, 11/24/2014 - 23:02 | 5484417 IndyPat
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Dunno.

I know of one black fat fuck that got dead with a pocket full of blunts he just stole 10 minutes prior.

It was a pubic service. Watch the fucking video. This asshole had a date with a bullet sooner than later. Sooner it was. Fucking thug.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 00:06 | 5484741 tvdog
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Michael Brown committed a robbery for which he should have been arrested, tried, and if convicted, punished under the law. The penalty for unarmed robbery is not death.

Instead of arresting Brown, Darren Wilson killed him, making himself judge, jury, and executioner. That is not the function of police.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 00:25 | 5484821 Esculent 69
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tvdog -Michael Brown committed a robbery for which he should have been arrested, tried, and if convicted, punished under the law. The penalty for unarmed robbery is not death.


Instead of arresting Brown, Darren Wilson killed him, making himself judge, jury, and executioner. That is not the function of police.

 

You are aware that this  "kid" attacked the cop inside his car before he even stepped out of the vehicle.  Is the police officer just to suppossed to let the guy run away because its not worth the young kids life, even though he may have committed other crimes as to assault a police officer who saw that the "kid" matched the description of a robbery suspect?  

Then when asked to stop, the "kid" turns and rushes the police officer, who then is forced to defend himself because im sure the gentle giant was just rushin back to help the officer he just assaulted and tried to take his gun.

Is that your arguement?  Just want to clarify that this is your postion. 


Thank you for declaring for one and all that you are a complete moron and that anything that you say isn't worth the time these protesters are wasting on a lie told to them by black men.

A graduate of Common Core no doubt. 

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 01:25 | 5484990 tvdog
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Wilson shot Brown six times, including five times after the danger to himself had passed. The first shot was not fatal. The remaining five shots were unjustified. The allegation that Brown attacked Wilson a second time is not supported by eyewitnesses, who report that he stopped and raised his hands in the air. Once Brown surrendered, he should have been taken into custody. He should not have been killed.

Nobody said Michael Brown was a model citizen. He still had rights. Wilson should be indicted by the Justice Department for civil rights violations.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 06:14 | 5485270 Tall Tom
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If you pull the gun then you empty it. I do not care if you are a cop or a private citizen.

 

In close range engagement a wounded assailant can take the gun away from you and shoot you.

 

The issue is was the shooting justified. I do not believe that it was. Regardless of that I am not one of the Grand Jury.

 

I will also let you know that I am not looting. I am not a thief.

 

If your Government holds me responsible for anther's actions, by declaring Martial Law, then I will respond appropriately. That is an unreasonable stance.

 

As I do not expect any justice from any court...

 

It is VIOLENCE to violate my Civil Rights. I retain all rights of self defense. The best defense is a good offense.

 

Do not tread on me.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 07:45 | 5485357 nmewn
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"Wilson shot Brown six times, including five times after the danger to himself had passed. The first shot was not fatal." Correct, the first shot hit Brown in the arm, AS BROWNS ARM HAD SOMEHOW GOTTEN INSIDE THE SQUAD CAR AND ALONG WITH HIS HAND WAS TRYING TO TAKE THE COPS GUN. "The remaining five shots were unjustified." And you know that how, from eyewitness & media reports?

"The allegation that Brown attacked Wilson a second time is not supported by eyewitnesses, who report that he stopped and raised his hands in the air." Eyewitnesses like Dorian Johnson, who changed their story from Brown being shot in the back running away after the autopsy and/or others who declined to be put under oath for some reason? "Once Brown surrendered, he should have been taken into custody. He should not have been killed." You seem to under the impression that Brown ever surrendered.

Every wound was to his front, a wounded Brown bum-rushed the cop, thats the only way he could get shot in the top front part of his head, which blew out his right eye.

Autopsies and powder burns don't lie.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 08:00 | 5485370 overmedicatedun...
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nmewn, you think this was a justified shooting, or am I not understanding?

the cop, was attacked in his car, was afraid for his life, but did he need to shoot 6 or 7 times at a kid who was a thug and big.?

having been there and done that, my answer is no he did not need to kill this kid. call for backup, the kid is wounded and is going nowhare- that is the human action he should have done, protect and serve was ignored due to his FEAR. Cops fear us because they know the system they protect is corrupt as do most of us on ZH.

progressive policy is at the root of this.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 08:04 | 5485376 nmewn
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From everything I have read, Brown was punching the cop in the face through the open window of his car and was fighting for the cops gun, thats how the shell casing and Browns blood got inside the cop car and powder burns on Brown.

Then Brown & Johnson ran away splitting up, Brown was never shot in the back as was first presented, Brown then turned around and ran back toward the cop, thats when the cop dropped him.

Yes, I say it was justified, you and I would have done the same thing.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 08:11 | 5485380 overmedicatedun...
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perhaps we would have, sometimes fear does make us do stupid things, this was stupid of the cop, what group of young fit men could shoot a young mother unarmed and stopped standing by her car, instead of just walking up to her and putting her in cuffs..that bothers me and points to training that exaggerates the threat of the American public to LEO's..as I said this shit comes from the top down and injustice and progressive policy is making us a police state.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 19:23 | 5488616 nmewn
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No, none of those are my downs, as you can see ;-)

"perhaps we would have, sometimes fear does make us do stupid things, this was stupid of the cop"

Brown called him a pussy, punched him in the face twice and was going after his gun. Then he charged at him, if anyone is stupid it was Brown. 

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 09:12 | 5485531 general ambivalent
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Individualists love cop collectivists.

Not In My Back Yid.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 09:41 | 5485619 Oldwood
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It has always been "us against them" unless you prefer us against YOU. It is no accident that historically we organize for self protection.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 10:13 | 5485701 Tall Tom
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If a cop just shot you, OR ANYONE ELSE SHOT YOU, FOR THAT MATTER, wouldn't you try to disarm the shooter?

 

You cannot outrun a bullet. The response is that you will go for the gun.

 

The truth will not be known TOU BOTH YOU AND I, as long as we are alive, because...BOTH YOU AND I WERE NOT THERE AT THE SCENE.

 

AS for "forensic evidence" and the other evidence???

 

Kennedy was not shot from the front and there was no second shooter because the physical and forensic evidence does not support that conclusion. Right. Even the Congressinal Investigation in the late Seventies demonstrated that there was a second shooter. But that is just way too disturbing for most.

 

I have got some really bad news for you. Police Officers lie. Governments lie. Absolutely nothing which they speak can be trusted. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. I do know that you already know this.

 

Was there prima facie evidence that indicated that a crime may have been commited? Yes. On the face of all of this madness THERE WAS A HOMICIDE.

 

Was it justifiable? I do not know as I was not there.

 

Could a Defense present REASONABLE DOUBT to a jury? Yes.

 

But you all seem to miss the point.

 

Had it been me, or you, and we had emptied out our weapon into an assailant then we'd be charged and prosecuted. Look at the Trayvon Martin case as an example of that.

 

However since it was a Policeman...It is a Rubber Stamp walk.

 

As long as the Government Officials do that then it is okay. But if a Private Citizen does that then there is a big problem.

 

And the STATISTS , pretending to love LIBERTY, support this system. Look at the moral support for it as I write.

 

Then I just heard the Government Mouthpiece ask for forgiveness as violence begets violence.

 

It is okay for the Government to incite violence. But may God forbid that a private citizen respond.

 

And the statists expose themselves..IN DROVES ON ZH today...it is sad as there is no hope that any of these mouths will ever put any action behind their vaccuuous words.

 

When Obama disappears and another statist is running the show then most of these people will duisappear from ZH as they support the state. They just hate the current asshole and I do not blame them...for that.

 

But all of them are worthy of outright unabashed contempt. ALL OF THEM.

 

They need to be in support as this may spark the overthrow needed.

 

I hope this degenerates into a Totalitarian seizure and that it affects everyone of them extremely adverse. Since they want a Police State then let them see just how bad that it will get.

 

The abysmal cost of lives to overthrow that will make this appear as a picnic in the park.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 14:32 | 5487029 RaceToTheBottom
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Suicide by cop.  

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 19:34 | 5488677 nmewn
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"If a cop just shot you, OR ANYONE ELSE SHOT YOU, FOR THAT MATTER, wouldn't you try to disarm the shooter?" Brown was shot the first time as he was trying to take the cops gun AFTER punching him in the face WHILE the cop was in his car...period.

Its in the grand juries report, all citizens I might add.

"You cannot outrun a bullet. The response is that you will go for the gun."

He did, he charged at the cop after first running away. He could have kept running, he was never shot in the back. He turned around Tom...and came running at the cop.

The eyewitnesses (blacks, not that it matters) said so. And thats what Wilson said happened too when he gave his report THAT DAY.

Yes, I would have shot him and you would have too.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 05:30 | 5485240 Memedada
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A typical mistake made by the uneducated mind. Statistics can easily be morphed to fit any political agenda. The intelligent approach to statistics is not the base numbers but the interconnectedness or dependence between different datasets. Look into other social statistics (I know USA is mostly barren of any meaningful data – apart from some grass-root attempts: shadowstats being one http://www.shadowstats.com/) and see the real connections. It’s a social issue and not a racial issue (even though that fits the PTB’s agenda better).

Keep being a manipulated fool and keep seeing ‘data’ that fits your narrow worldview, but don’t think it’s political ‘incorrect’ – your race-focus fits perfectly in the current political paradigm of divide and conquer.

And another statistic would show, that if your're ‘black, brown, yellow etc.’ and live in a third world country you’re more likely to be killed by the US military (controlled by ‘whities’), than the military of your neighbor countries.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 07:25 | 5485337 DarkLordofSadNews
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pool shark false maths and false logic  ,

looking at the link  (last col in bold is my % accurate to 2 decimals) 

Expanded Homicide Data Table 6                     Murder                      Race and Sex of Victim by Race and Sex of Offender, 2010             [Single victim/single offender]                     Race of victim Total Race of offender Sex of offender     White Black Other Unknown Male Female Unknown    chance of killed by same race  White  3,327 2,777 447 40 63 2,975 289 63                                        83.47 Black  2,720 218 2,459 7 36 2,439 245 36                                        90.40

 

or put in another way , if blacks hurt blacks more than whites , does it give white police offer more right to kill a black person . the real questions is how dangerous it is to interact with other group. black interacts with blacks more than whites so that populations arguemnt is a bit of a red herring.

 

or put it another way ,  the reverse argument , whites are  killed by more whites than  blacks  , does that make a black police 

officer shoot a white person with hands up. never heard of that 

 

You are an idiot sir 

 

 

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 09:49 | 5485640 Oldwood
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Then I suggest you take your family on a multicultural picnic. There is absolutely no greater risk of personal harm in the ghetto...no really...head on out right now. Show us the veracity of your statistics. Why, people are streaming into ghetto areas to build and invest because of the peaceful environment and brotherly love. No really, go now.

Fucking idiot for sure.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 17:53 | 5488128 DarkLordofSadNews
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I wouldn't go to a ghetto black or white.

Anybody reasonable would have asked the underlying issue is , i guess you are too tired and old 

you are confusing correlation with casuation . 

 I am sure SOCIALLY BACKWARD can be educated  but not  you sir 

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 08:33 | 5485421 MaldelBot
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I'm white, and I'm scared of other blacks. Finally something we have in common!

Mon, 11/24/2014 - 20:46 | 5483920 Burnenofknowing
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Hole lots betta affer dark, be seeyun nuffin's but teef an eye's !!!

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