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Michael Brown's Parents (And Al Sharpton) Address Media: Investigation Was 'Broken' - Live Feed

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Having shifted from a call for calm ("we want peace"), to understandably emotionally proclaiming "burn this bitch down," right after the decision last night (noting "profound disappointment"), Michael Brown's parents are preparing to make a statement (along with Al Sharpton)... claiming that the investigation was 'broken' but once again calling for peace.

 

  • *ATTORNEY: 'A FIRST YR LAW STUDENT' WOULD CROSS-EXAMINE BETTER
  • *ATTORNEY SAYS: WE OBJECTED TO THIS PROSECUTOR & THIS PROCESS
  • *ATTORNEY SAYS: 'WE COULD FORESEE WHAT THE OUTCOME WOULD BE'
  • *ATTORNEY SAYS: 'THIS PROCESS IS BROKEN'
  • *ATTORNEY: WANTS LAW REQUIRING POLICE TO WEAR BODY CAMERAS
  • *GRAY: DECISION `A REFLECTION OF THOSE WHO PRESENTED' THE CASE

 

Live Feed...

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On Sunday November 23rd the following statement was released by Mike
Brown’s Mom, Lesley McSpadden, and her husband, Louis Head:

Louis Head

However, after the announcement of a non-indictment there was a considerable change in sentiment: 

“You motherf**kers think this is a joke” – “Burn this b*tch down”!

 

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Tue, 11/25/2014 - 13:46 | 5486712 Fedaykinx
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i'm not a big fan of the police but this case was cut and dried.

the black community's inability to process facts is not doing them any favors.

i feel sorry for the business owners that got burned out last night.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 13:51 | 5486736 junction
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One big inconsistency: AG McCullough said last night that officer Wilson knew about the convenience store robbery. Ferguson police chief Jackson previously said that Wilson did not know of the robbery. McCullough compressed the timeline and accepted Wilson's statement that he was listening to his radio whle attending at a call to an apartment for a sick child.  Did AG McCullough have his staff interview the parent of the sick child to determine if Wilson's radio was on and could be clearly heard while Wilson was in the apartment?  Probably not, why learn that the radio was off, that would interfere with fixing this case.

Previous timeline (from FOX News)    

12:00 p.m. — Officer Wilson leaves the scene of the call about a sick child.

12:01 p.m. — Officer Wilson encounters Michael Brown walking on a street and the shooting follows.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 13:53 | 5486753 kaiserhoff
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It was a good shoot.

Anyone at all interested in the TRUTH anymore???

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 13:55 | 5486772 Bollixed
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All this parental concern over their dead son... where were they when he was taking on the mantle of being a thug?

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 13:58 | 5486799 TheAnalOG
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We son was a thug and a scholar!

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 14:42 | 5487102 johnQpublic
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We rioted some folks

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 15:13 | 5487316 MiguelitoRaton
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Free Trayvon!

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 15:16 | 5487329 yrad
Tue, 11/25/2014 - 15:34 | 5487342 hedgeless_horseman
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67% of black residence of Ferguson are on EBT...

Know justice, know peas.
No justice, no peas?

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 16:10 | 5487557 Headbanger
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WTF!!

HOW ABOUT THE STORE KEEPER BROWN STRONG ARMED FOR CIGARS!!



Tue, 11/25/2014 - 13:59 | 5486812 knukles
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And a headstone on his grave.
Nah.... too much to ask

Time is better spent rabble rousing with a Direct Emissary of His Boiking, stirring up trouble to improve race relations even further.

All hail the future,

Forward into the Void

Sharpton disgusts me, subjugating his own for political gain.
Talk about Racism!

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 14:06 | 5486865 Hippocratic Oaf
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To all liberals and other low information idiots:

How's that white guilt tasting now?

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 14:15 | 5486928 PartysOver
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Body found.  How much you want to bet that it is the body of a witness that spoke the truth.

http://stlouis.cbslocal.com/2014/11/25/report-body-of-black-male-found-s...

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 14:21 | 5486962 Buckaroo Banzai
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Nice catch.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 14:38 | 5487066 bob_stl
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Dirty Darren: "Do you feel lucky..., Punk?"

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 16:17 | 5487587 Steaming_Wookie_Doo
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Hey Knukles, for your consideration:

http://anolen.com/2014/11/06/the-cia-and-race-riots/

The American race riots of the 1960s have a lot in common with riots that are happening across the Western world today–  the sequence of events is strikingly similar: a cop shoots a youth under strained circumstances; rioting ‘spontaneously’ starts and destroys the local economy; the neighborhood ends up being on lock-down for the next 40, 50, 60 years. It’s a great way of spreading the police state and inciting distrust between races. This distrust is politically useful for demagogues and FBI informants like Rev. Al Sharpton.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 14:07 | 5486877 Pig Circus
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No indictment means no pay day for the mother of the Gentle Giant. Just EBT, LIHEAP, Section 8 ect.

Back to the Liberal Plantation for you girl.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 14:17 | 5486940 Buckaroo Banzai
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Not so fast. The DOJ has yet to weigh in on bullshit federal charges. And don't forget the inevitable civil suits.

This isn't over by a long shot.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 14:30 | 5487016 PartysOver
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Unfortunately this is true.  Perhaps Mr Wilson should check into Ex-Pat options.   As should most of us.  Better to get the info before you need it than to scramble.  Between the banksters, politicians and race baiters my confidence in this country is dwindling.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 17:54 | 5488134 August
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FWIW there are 12,000 New Zealanders who were born in the USA.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 14:36 | 5487054 lakecity55
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The DOJ has determined Mr Brown's Rights were violated as he did not have a handgun to defend himself with against the police after the strong-arm robbery, which would have been easier had he been armed.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 14:49 | 5487162 Uncle Remus
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Schrödinger's handgun

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 15:16 | 5487331 disabledvet
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Still time for another 18 holes.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 17:05 | 5487874 ChanceIs
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Still watin fur dah federal charges in da Trayzon case.  Fool.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 17:20 | 5487942 MachoMan
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And don't forget the inevitable civil suits.

That end in dismissal before discovery begins...  Qualified immunity and sovereign immunity ought to be sufficient...

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 13:56 | 5486776 TeamDepends
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Hey Al, don't you owe some back taxes?

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 14:00 | 5486815 A Lunatic
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Good point. I have it on good authority that some people will occasionally be surrounded by Feds, tanks, drones, and helicopters in order that they may be shot, gassed or burned to death over a simple tax matter of $200. Hmmm....

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 14:09 | 5486883 XqWretch
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Black taxes

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 14:25 | 5486978 YHC-FTSE
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@kaiserhof

I beg to differ. I don't think it was and I think there was certainly a case for a jury trial to judge the merits of the case for itself.

No doubt young Mr.Brown was a thug and a petty thief, but that's not a good reason to blow his brains all over the pavement. The eyewitness reports I read did not conflict on two important points: He was already injured and had his hands raised (NOT at his waistband - which seems to be the universal verbatim police rhetoric for every shooting) when he was shot multiple times that ended his life.

As for the photographs of Mr.Wilson showing the injuries he allegedly sustained during the scuffle in the car, I looked and looked very carefully but could not see a single definitive proof of an injury. A zit here and there but nothing that would indicate being punched by a 400lb man, unless the 400lb man suddenly turned into a fairy and slapped him with the force of an anaemic gnat at the moment of the struggle. Mr.Wilson's "injuries" does not corroborate his accounts of the incident.

Not that it matters, because I am going to get a shitload of down votes, I did not down vote you. :). Besides, I'm not a whore for mediocrity and this is my honest opinion.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 14:31 | 5487028 Fedaykinx
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you were probably looking at the wide angle pics NBC put up, go find the closeup shots you can clearly see tissue trauma, particularly on his right cheek and left ear.  anybody who's ever wrestled or boxed knows what it looks like

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 14:47 | 5487151 YHC-FTSE
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Well I really tried to make sense of the stories so I looked very carefully. No broken skin, no deep marks. Wilson and I share a similar complexion so it would have been very apparent if he had been injured.

I won't go into the whole silly race baiting thing, I'm looking at this from a strictly legal point of rules set by precedents in previous police shootings (Tennessee-v-Garner and Graham-v-Connor), besides the important issues regarding the militarization of the police. If an officer shoots an unarmed injured man with his hands raised, then there really ought to be consequences for that lapse in judgement. Common sense to me, but apparently not to others.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 15:20 | 5487345 disabledvet
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I just followed CBS and traded accordingly.

 

KEEP THOSE F-150'S MOVING!

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 15:20 | 5487346 disabledvet
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I just followed CBS and traded accordingly.

 

KEEP THOSE F-150'S MOVING!

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 15:42 | 5487419 moneybots
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"Well I really tried to make sense of the stories so I looked very carefully. No broken skin, no deep marks. Wilson and I share a similar complexion so it would have been very apparent if he had been injured."

 

The close-up photos showed he was injured.  His left ear looked very odd, for one.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 16:35 | 5487662 FuzzyDunlop21
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You keep mentioning "hands raised". Just because your hands are raised does not mean you are not threatening and does not mean you can do whatever you want. This is even assuming you can distinguish between "hands raised" and "hands in the air", which I doubt you can from the statements released. Even so, M. Brown just reached inside the car, trying to grab the officers gun. The little shit steps away, "raises his hands", and now starts charging towards the officer( with " hands raised") and with a shit eating smirk on his face like hes invincible. What would you do? Are you really going to let a 300lb man who just tried to grab your gun approach you, running full speed, just because his "hands are raised". No, and the law you keep talking about doesnt say thats A-okay either

There is a legitimate discussion that maybe the officer shot a few too many times. But I just dont think the evidence is there that says he shouldnt have shot at all.

 

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 14:46 | 5487144 johnQpublic
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Forensics of the bullet hits to his arm indicated they were down around waist level

 

Guess you neither listened to the press conference nor read anything about this. May I presume you will be voting clinton in 2016?

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 14:51 | 5487172 YHC-FTSE
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"Voting Clinton"..... I think that remark deserves a big FUCK OFF. Not that I'll be voting anyway - I'm in the UK.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 15:44 | 5487221 angel_of_joy
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Oh look, a comment from "the most advanced progressive country in the world". Well, if there is a worse country to live in than the US (in the entire anglo-saxon world), that would be the UK... Thanks, but no thanks !

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 14:48 | 5487145 Buckaroo Banzai
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Your failure to understand the facts of this case is disappointing. The first time the cop and the perpetrator scuffled, the cop was in the car and the perpetrator was trying to get his gun. He wasn't trying to punch him, HE WAS TRYING TO GET THE COP'S GUN. The fact that being in the car made that extremely difficult was the only thing that saved the cop.

When the giant black man came after the cop a second time, what would YOU think he was going to do, based on what he did the first time? The cop wasn't protected by the car this time either.

Think it through, and stop staying stupid shit.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 15:06 | 5487258 YHC-FTSE
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Your failure to understand the law regarding the use of deadly force in police shootings is disappointing to me. The facts are exactly as you describe, but the convoluted precedents set in this area of the law clearly indicate that you cannot shoot someone, regardless of circumstances, if that person attempts to surrender. And unless the witnesses to the shooting were all lying through their teeth, Brown was apparently surrendering just before he was shot multiple times.

Either the law needs to be changed so that it is lawful for officers to shoot unarmed civilians who are surrendering, if they had been previously assaulted by the civilian. Or the case needs to be decided in a court of law under the current set of rules. I really can't make it any clearer than that. It is only important to me because there are bigger issues of police brutality and abuse of power at stake here.

I've said this for years now. Idiots never understand the dangers of elevating policemen to hero status and making them exceptional to the rule of law until it is too late to whine about living in a police state.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 15:38 | 5487402 Bay of Pigs
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Surrendering? What evidence is there of that?

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 15:48 | 5487452 Buckaroo Banzai
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I am quite well-informed on the deadly force laws-- in the USA, at least. Where do you live?

No one "surrendered".  Forensic evidence proved that. Stop being a buffoon. Clowntime is over. Move along.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 15:50 | 5487459 moneybots
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"Your failure to understand the law regarding the use of deadly force in police shootings is disappointing to me. The facts are exactly as you describe, but the convoluted precedents set in this area of the law clearly indicate that you cannot shoot someone, regardless of circumstances, if that person attempts to surrender. And unless the witnesses to the shooting were all lying through their teeth, Brown was apparently surrendering just before he was shot multiple times."

 

It seems as if you did not listen to the reading of the evidence last night, when the Grand Jury decision was given.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 16:13 | 5487554 YHC-FTSE
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You're correct. I don't watch the idiot box unless I really have no choice. The witness statements I read were posted on a site called VOX. ( Another page from VOX, 11 things you should know about the Michael Brown Killing). I cannot vouch for that site's accuracy since I don't know anything about its owners or agenda (if any) but it was among many that I settled on reading.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 16:39 | 5487710 JailBank
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Calling the tele an idiot box, and then stating you read Vox is hilarious.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 17:04 | 5487863 YHC-FTSE
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Fucking cheap skates are out in force today. You could replace VOX with Reuters, RT and AP. They and other msm posted similar statements on their site.

I just recognized some of the posters here. Some of you fucks who are enjoying your moment of fleeting popularity with your "black this and black that" crap to divert the issue away from law enforcement accountability, I recognize you as zionist cunts who usually go apeshit at the mere mention of Israel or "Jew". You fucks really enjoy stirring things up don't you? Enjoy it while it lasts.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 17:33 | 5488018 Zerozen
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Sore loser.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 22:48 | 5489462 sylviasays
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I recognize you as zionist cunts who usually go apeshit at the mere mention of Israel or "Jew". 

 

We recognize that all of you brainwashed muzzie cunts from Londonstan go all apeshit at the mere mention of the fact that Mohammad was a raghead who molested young boys. 

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 16:00 | 5487512 Blano
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Nearly direct quote from witness about the thug:

"Dang he ran right at that cop like a football player."

Case closed.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 15:03 | 5487248 jaxville
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I gotta wonder ....  How many folks watching this spectacle are going to come to the conclusion that blacks just aren't decent people?  That leads me to wonder if this is all some media orchestration to elecit a desired result?  After all,  social disorder makes arseholes like DHS somewhat legitimate.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 13:54 | 5486759 Fedaykinx
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none of that changes the fact that some big dum dum was walking down the middle of a busy street, and escalaed the encounter by refusing a simple command to move it out of the road

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 13:58 | 5486800 XqWretch
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Remember kids, when the black shirts tell you to jump, you say how high, or you get shot to death. You guys have been trained well. Keep paying taxes slaves!

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 14:10 | 5486893 Tek Kinkreet
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So true, I'm just shaking my head at all of these racist comments. I just read the officer's account of the story, it is completely unbelievable. This kid punched him at the same time he had loads of cigars in his hands. Really? This is not even a black/white issue, cops are out of hand and treating everyone like enemy insurgents. People are being shot for jaywalking and arrested for feeding the poor. When are people going to leave behind their petty racist issues and open their eyes to the reality of a police state?

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 14:22 | 5486973 angel_of_joy
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Yeah, you live in a racist country ! Get a life, or get moving... This race baiting crap has lasted long enough. And, if you think the blacks had it tough because of the whitey, just wait until the Hispanics will make the law in America, as they get more numerous...

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 14:39 | 5487080 JailBank
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Let's not pretend he went out and stole some food to feed his family or anything here.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 14:53 | 5487179 angel_of_joy
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His family looks just fine to me, a bit on the overweight side though...

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 14:31 | 5487019 JailBank
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I see you have been out reading your Vox propaganda today.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 14:51 | 5487167 Tek Kinkreet
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guess again: http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/11/25/us/evidence-released-in-mi...

But then you are not interested in real facts, only in being a racist ass. When you give people institutionalized racism, they tend to eventually fight back. They will not fight back with intelligence, they will strike out confused and with rage. Riots are the result. People like you will keep blaming the victim though and we will have no hope of obtaining a type one society until your kind die out.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 15:18 | 5487332 Zerozen
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Oh, GTFO.

The facts are there for anyone to see, and it looks clear that the shooting was justified. The prosecution has no evidence, and no case. It's settled. Blacks don't care about objectivity though, they just care that one of their own was killed and because it was a white cop who pulled the trigger, the cop needs to pay. If they don't get their way, they riot. They're not victims, they are losers, and they oppress the rest of us with their moral rot, violence (they commit almost 70% of the violent crime in America), poverty and general inability to make anything good out of themselves.

There is not a single "type one" society on this planet that has a significant black minority.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 15:43 | 5487422 Stoploss
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You can take the monkey out of the jungle, but you cannot take the jungle out of the monkey...

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 15:47 | 5487442 Tek Kinkreet
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A type one society does not exist at all and will never with racism.

Those stats are misleading. For instance, blacks and whites both smoke the same amount of pot, yet more blacks have been arrested for the offense, this when they are a minority. That is institutionalized racism. It is not that black people smoke more, they are targeted for arrest more often. Why would anyone keep putting up with that and why would anyone take up for a system that perpetuates it? You are either ill informed or a racist, probably both. If you were harassed every time you left your house for nothing, you would react the same way this kid did to some jerk with control issues telling you where to walk in a free country. I guess you are alright with cops busting into innocent people's houses for drug offenses their neighbors commit as well? Newsflash, cops are not your God and the troops may join to fight for their country, but all they are really doing is lining banker's pockets. GO MERIKA!

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 16:29 | 5487657 Zerozen
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I said violent crime, dummy, I didn't say minor drug offenses.

Violent crime = rape, murder, assault, armed burglary, etc.

Off the top of my head: did you know that in 2007 about 14,000 incidencts of black on white rape were reported, whereas zero (literally zero) cases of white on black rape were reported. Stick that in your pipe and smoke it.

Blacks are 12-13% of the population and commit 70% of those crimes. It has nothing to do with "institutionalized racism".

But yes, I am "ill informed".

Christ, you're a chump.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 17:32 | 5487995 Tek Kinkreet
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Institutionalized racism pushes people to the bottom and they will eventually fight back any way possible. That is what you are seeing, people with their backs against the wall acting out. But you are the kind that won't do anything until it's your family. You have the same mindset as the oligarchs, me me me and mine, fuck other people. Until you and those like you are ready to treat people equally, we will always have rampant crime and poverty. I hope you like the current system because you are serving the oligarchs in helping them perpetuate it.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 17:51 | 5488121 Zerozen
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You misquote me, post a dumb example of "institutionalized racism", I take you to town, and instead of responding to my response you're ranting again about "institutionalized racism" and what an asshole I am because I serve the oligarchs and I don't treat people equally, etc. etc.

For what it's worth, we don't have rampant crime and poverty in America. It's actually a pretty peaceful and pretty prosperous place, outside of the parts where a particular racial minority lives. If you have even basic critical reasoning capabilities, that should tell you something.

Hey buddy, listen: you know what institutional racism looks like?

When 97 to 98% of African Americans vote for a black president, twice. Call me crazy, but it's almost like they don't care about his views on foreign policy, the economy, the environment, etc. and they only voted for him because he's one of their own!

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 18:48 | 5488373 Tek Kinkreet
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Yeah my bad, I just figured if you didn't know what a word meant, you'd use a dictionary. Dummies vote for Obama because they are unwilling or unable to face the truth. Hey, you are both delusional, but at least you have finally found some common ground with some black people and even some Demorats.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 18:11 | 5488219 Buckaroo Banzai
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Anybody uttering the phrase "institutionalized racism" disqualifies themselves on the grounds of being a fucking idiot whose brain has been filled up with mush by Cultural Marxists in the media and indoctrination (aka "educational") industries.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 18:51 | 5488418 Tek Kinkreet
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You keep standing in the corner bent over pretending life is great, maybe they will pass you some lube later.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 16:05 | 5487525 Blano
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New York Times....hahahahahahahahahaha!!!

If that's your source for fair reporting, you're even more fucked than you sound.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 17:40 | 5488059 Tek Kinkreet
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Those are the actual court documents you imbecile. They do not change according to who publishes them. LMAO How stupid can you get? I bet your nickname is Bubba and your sister is also your Mom.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 16:41 | 5487724 JailBank
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Well that shows how stupid you truly are. Going straight to the you're racist comment, becuase you are an ass. That shit only works with sad sacks of shit out on the coast that beleive they have something to apologize for because they were born. Go and fuck yourself asshead.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 17:45 | 5488073 Tek Kinkreet
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And you keep fucking your Mom, I hear she likes it but her black boyfriend is better at it.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 15:15 | 5487318 SethDealer
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blacks dont pay taxes bro

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 16:07 | 5487535 Tek Kinkreet
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In order for that to be true, they would have to not consume at all, which is not possible.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 14:32 | 5487031 lakecity55
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Ize bad, bad, bad mike brown
i walks in de middle o de streets downtown
cause ize bad an cool an a fan o rap
ain't taking no lip or no crap
whut you say, YT cop?
I bust de doe on you den bust yo top
gimme dat gat YT pig
i show you ize a big bad nig
damn ize bleedin like tupac
maybe i should gib dem seegars back.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 13:59 | 5486762 y3maxx
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Ferguson and Gaza/Middle East comparison.

TPTB/NWO want all these poor American and Arab folk to kill each other.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 14:00 | 5486826 knukles
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Re-institute the draft... er maybe not....

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 13:53 | 5486763 Tenshin Headache
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Why do you feel that McCullough "probably [did] not" interview the parent of the sick child? Seems like a sensible thing to do, and if he didn't, the grand jury probably asked for it.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 14:25 | 5486989 Stoploss
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As long as the great African American imprisoners, Al Sharpton, and Jesse (i abandoned my son in prison) Jackson, and any other so called "rights activist", will always ensure the continued government enslavement of the black man will not stop. Ever...

With each of these Sharpton/Jackson events, the black community is set back on average right around fifty years at a shot.

So, back to 1965, black man...  Just make sure you keep Al and Jesse in your "corner", the government appreciates your complete and total support.

Without Al, Jesse, and the government telling the blacks they are victims of racism, there would be no racism.

 

But, we live in a world run by psychotic, drug addled, narcissistic immature idiots... And STUPID VOTERS..........

 

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 14:30 | 5487020 A Nanny Moose
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radio could have been in an earpiece.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 14:32 | 5487025 JailBank
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Even if he didn't know Brown stole and assaulted somebody earlier that day, Brown knew what he did, and that matters as well. He knows he just fled the scene of his crime, and would not want to encounter the police.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 14:38 | 5487075 ClassicalLib17
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You're a fucking idiot, junction.   Their radios are always on.  Why don't you find a nice rental in one of these more diverse communities?  Better yet,  take your sorry liberal ass for a walk through one of these neighborhoods;  then tell us how progressive minded you are.  Dumb ass

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 13:55 | 5486770 XqWretch
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One of the dumbest posts ever. The case was cut and dry? Right. Apparently shooting an unarmed person 6 times when you have several other non lethal ways to put someone down, and the training to do so, is cut and dry not even manslaughter. It is the black community's responsibility to process evidence to indict someone? Uhhh no, it is the DA's  job to do that, and they obviously failed. What a retarded post.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 13:57 | 5486796 Fedaykinx
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your post displays a stunning lack of understanding about how the grand jury system works.

 

dipshit.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 13:59 | 5486820 XqWretch
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Ok genius. What happens in a grand jury? 12 people are selcted from the community. The state presents its case against someone. The grand jury decides if the state has enough evidence to proceed with a jury trial. How am I wrong? And how is it "the black community's" responsibility to provide evidence to indict someone? 

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 14:04 | 5486845 Fedaykinx
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no i mean i get it, the prosecutor is a klansmember that didn't do his jerb correctly, according to you and the rev al.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 14:10 | 5486887 XqWretch
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LOL ok im done with you, youre clearly just trolling

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 14:15 | 5486912 Fedaykinx
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its cool i understand your passion on the subject, we really only disagree about this case in particular, from what i can tell by your other posts.

if onlee mr. brown had given up walking down the middle of the street as easily, we wouldn't be having this scintillating dialogue

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 14:06 | 5486868 LetsGetPhysical
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The black community did supply all the evidence. It was the statements of the BLACK witnesses that got the cop off.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 14:17 | 5486933 XqWretch
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The state CHOOSES what evidence to use in a grand jury. The whole point of the state PROSECUTOR is to PROSECUTE the alleged perpetrator and get an indictment. NOT to get him off. Why the hell would the DA present evidence to a grand jury that would weaken its case against someone? Wow, the intelligence flows strong around here lately.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 14:22 | 5486970 LetsGetPhysical
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Because... HE HAD NO CASE! They should of labeled it "suicide by cop"
Where I come from you fucking know what the consequences of doing what Mike Brown did. He died over a couple of blunts.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 14:38 | 5487069 XqWretch
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Wrong again. The DA's job is to get as many people indicted as possible. If you think otherwise you are simply being gullible. There is no defense in a grandy jury trial, only the state, and the grand jury. The state obviously had enough evidence to at least attempt for a charge of manslaughter. The fact that they failed to do even that is telling. Look, who knows what would have happened at a jury trial, but again, the fact that the state couldnt even provide enough evidence to convince 12 dumb people to go along with a manslaughter trial is pretty hilarious.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 14:27 | 5486997 lakecity55
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Correct. The Prosecutor is charged with finding Fact to Prosecute. He must examine all evidence.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 14:35 | 5487039 A Nanny Moose
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Evidence aside, you expect one member of The State to administer justice upon another member of The State? Good luck with that.

Can I get a unicorn on your next visit from fantasyland? Thanks in advance.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 14:38 | 5487072 XqWretch
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Exactly, and that is why the guy was not indicted.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 14:24 | 5486984 lakecity55
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Grand Jury meets in secret.

You must testify. W/O an attorney. Failure to testify gets you jailed until you change your mind.

The GJ system is designed to get Fact. If it determines the Facts warrant a trial, a True Bill of Indictment is issued by the Prosecutor. Then you go to public trial.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 14:48 | 5487156 Fedaykinx
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he's not looking for facts and rationality, he's looking for emotional arguments to fit this case into his general worldview of law enforcement.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 13:58 | 5486814 oddjob
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6 fucking times, the kid had no gun, what kind of chickenshit takes 5 more shots before gets his rage out?

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 14:01 | 5486824 Fedaykinx
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you've been watching too many 007 movies, son

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 14:05 | 5486840 oddjob
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I would suuggest that someone so easily petrified by an unarmed black youth was probably not the best choice to give a gun and a license to kill.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 14:06 | 5486864 Fedaykinx
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yeah they should reserve that for tough guys who can manhandle 6ft+ 300lb dudes with authority and a distinct lack of fear

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 14:12 | 5486897 XqWretch
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The tazer, the mace, the night stick, all of them clearly werent enough. Oh wait, he didnt even fucking TRY to use any of those. Shoot from the hip baby! We should start giving the cops uzis, fuck it.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 14:17 | 5486938 Fedaykinx
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brown had already physically assaulted a cop and tried to take his sidearm.  i don't think it is reasonable to assume that he should have tried to rely on some pepperspray to put down the threat after that.  i'm trying to be reasonable here, you're just giving in to hyperbole and strawman arguments.  but whatever bro, why can't we all just get along eh??

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 14:31 | 5487024 Zerozen
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You sound like you've never even been in a barfight, let alone know anything about using any of those weapons. Being charged by a 300lbs+ man does not call for a nightstick (seriously, are you fucking kidding me) or even a tazer. A heavy knock from a person that size will easily send you to the ground and crack some bones.

And to the nitwit who called the cop a pussy for using 6 bullets, again, you're just showing your ignorance. All shooters are taught to shoot for center mass at an attacking target and keep shooting until the target STOPS. Contrary to what you might think, bullets are often not as powerful as you think they are unless you hit the neck or head. For example, a .22 bullet even a shorter ranges doesn't pack much more energy than a baseball thrown at 90mph. It's very much survivable and when there is adrenaline involved and a 300lb man running into you with momentum, yes, it's going to take multiple shots from whatever gun it was that he's using to take down the target.

 

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 14:32 | 5487027 Buckaroo Banzai
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You're out of your depth here. Anybody with meaningful self-defense training knows that when the fight gets to arms-length distances, and there is a significant physical size mismatch not in your favor, your options diminish to almost nothing. A Tazer gives you one chance-- one-- and if you blow it you're fucked. A nightstick? You might get one good swing in before he's on top of you. He'd already been attacked once, and he knew that if he left his gun in his holster, it was going to be grabbed and used against him, as THATS WHAT WAS ATTEMPTED THE FIRST TIME.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 14:39 | 5487060 oddjob
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If what you say is true, then the cop should never have got out of his cruiser. Nobody was in grave danger, the cop put himslef there, very poor judgement. What kind of sissy fires his gun 6 times at close range?

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 14:40 | 5487081 Fedaykinx
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you really ought put down the shovel

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 14:54 | 5487174 Buckaroo Banzai
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Whether or not it was advisable for the cop to leave his cruiser is immaterial. Only a certified lunatic fucks with a cop TWICE, and once Brown attacked a second time, he was obviously a menace and had to be put down.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 14:59 | 5487226 oddjob
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But, he could have been President.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 15:28 | 5487369 Zerozen
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Re: firing the gun 6 times, didn't we just explain this to you in our posts above?

And do you really think it's realistic for a cop to hide in his cruiser because he was assaulted by the guy who is trying to run away? He's supposed to get out and arrest the perp.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 16:21 | 5487608 malek
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Especially after he already had called backup, he should absolutely do the arrest alone.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 15:56 | 5487486 zerophilo
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Yeah, I agree. Anyone who fired 6 times close range is fucking coward and is trying to hide something.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 15:30 | 5487376 Payne
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Gee I guess all my training in Judo and Aikido was a waste of time and money or you are just ill informed.  Why do the cops with the guns in the US kill more people than anywhere in the world.?

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 16:00 | 5487510 Zerozen
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LOL

Your judo/aikido training, in a street fight situation where you're looking at going to ground on hard asphalt/cement, is about as useful as having an asshole on your elbow.

If you want to learn something useful, then look into Krav Maga or Systema, or some kind of CQC course.

I can't speak to your claim about U.S. cops, I haven't seen the statistics. However I have a hard time believing that U.S. cops kills more people (per capita, not absolute numbers) than in crime-ridden countries like Brazil or South AFrica.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 17:55 | 5488138 Tek Kinkreet
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Because these assholes unwittingly support the police state that will one day soon come for them, hell that day is now in a lot of areas. All racists need to look at the plight of the black man, because that is your future unless you wake up and do something. If you don't like it, stop supporting a system that unfairly places people in poverty and destitution.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 18:13 | 5488230 Zerozen
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The black man's "plight"?

Homeboy, blacks oppress themselves more than anyone else ever could. Bad leadership, tons of crime, no respect for education and culture, zero moral values.

 

Wed, 11/26/2014 - 01:06 | 5489834 Tek Kinkreet
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How do you expect to be taken seriously when you obviously think morality is determined by the color of someone's skin?

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 14:19 | 5486936 Hippocratic Oaf
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@oddjob & xq

please read the details: Nigga thug robs store, nigga thug smacks around owner, nigga thug smoke duh chronic, nigga thug walk down duh mid-o-screet, nigga thug slams cardoor on po-po when confronted, nigga thug leaps INTO car and tussles wid po-po, po-po lets off a cap to scare nigga thug, nigga thug and po-po get outta car, nigga thug say "You be too much a pussy to shoot me", nigga thug run after cop in 'football tackling position', nigga thug tussle wid cop again and try to get gun, murderous white racist cop takes gun and by using self defense, murders a poor helpless defenseless African American youth.

 

The End.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 14:29 | 5487001 oddjob
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Kid dies for that, a purported crime?, Hank Paulson threatens entire country with martial law and gets $850 billion. Sorry my focus is not on petty criminals, its a conveinent distraction for chum like yourself,  but I suppose if you can kill them all your plan might work.

 

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 14:40 | 5487076 Hippocratic Oaf
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Kid dies for that, a purported crime?

Yes, he fuckin' does. There was going to be a death that day. Thug died, cop lived. May not have been your bleeding-heart choice, but that's the way it happened. And don't spew that innocent bullshit and not having a weapon. Motherfucker was 6'4", 300+lbs. 

What would you say if Brown got the gun and shot the cop? or if brown just beat him to death?

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 14:44 | 5487124 XqWretch
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I bet you if Brown killed the cop he AT LEAST would have been indicted, lol. Cops dont even have to go to a fucking trial when they kill someone

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 15:18 | 5487337 jerry_theking_lawler
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I'm 40+ years old....have had a few minor run-ins with the law (speeding, drinking, etc). Always said yes sir, no sir. Was almost always treated with respect (because I gave respect). Why? Because I know the system and the type of people they are.  Was disrespected once...had witnesses, brought it to the attention of the police chief in a formal complaint. The officer in question was reprimanded (and later terminated for same types of charges). Again, know the system...and no, I didn't bow down to them, just gave them respect like I would anyone working in any hard people facing customer service job.

But, if I ran up to anyone and began beating them with a stick, I would think my changes of getting shot would escalate....tremendously....and rightfully so.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 15:23 | 5487356 oddjob
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Congrats on passing the buck.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 18:11 | 5488213 Tek Kinkreet
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That has not been my experience, you are lucky. More and more that has not been many people's experience. We live in a police state. But I guess your answer is to say, "Yes Sir Master Sir, please tell me how to wipe my ass." Sorry, some of us have more dignity than that.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 18:06 | 5488199 Tek Kinkreet
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My neighbor's kid is over 6 foot, close to 300 lbs and 14 years old! What he looks like has nothing to do with being a criminal. When the founding Fathers revolted, people like you were no doubt cowering in your hovel praying for the redcoats to defeat the rebel thugs. This system has forced people's face into the dirt and instead of working to change the system, you are helping the oligarchs simply because you think they won't press a boot to your skull. Stop being a patsy.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 14:45 | 5487120 nobodysfool
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I think Officer Wilson showed a lot of restraint.  He had a couple more mags on his belt, so he could have reloaded and popped 20+ more rounds into the fine upstanding young black man, to be sure he wasn't posing a threat to society.  Good job Officer Wilson, bravo!  This is the kind of cop we need in Chicago where blacks are killing each other at a rate of 30-50 per week...oh, wait,...that's supposed to be a secret about black on black crime in Chicago. 

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 14:56 | 5487211 XqWretch
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lol

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 18:14 | 5488231 Tek Kinkreet
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Yeah, thank god he was there to protect society from jaywalking.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 14:15 | 5486929 LetsGetPhysical
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The only reason "the kid had no gun" is because he couldn't wrestle it from the cops hand. And BTW... He's not a kid. He was grown ass 300lb man.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 14:55 | 5487206 Hero Protagonist
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How many times have you faced a 6'4" +/- 290 lbs. suspect as a police officer?

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 15:50 | 5487456 zerophilo
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WHY ARE YOU RACIST FUCKS DOWNVOTING THAT? EVEN IF HE DID ROB A STORE OR DISOBEY A THUG-COP'S ORDERS, THE PUNISHMENT WAS NOT PROPORTIONATE TO THE CRIME!!!!!! WHERE THE FUCK IS THE RATIONAILTY AND LOGIC??? CAN SOMEONE HELP ME UNDERSTAND? PERHAPS I'M MISSING SOMETHING? 6 bullets on an unarmed kid is not justified. End of story.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 16:09 | 5487548 Zerozen
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He attacked the cop once, went for the cop's gun once, then came back again a second time to assault the cop. Cop shot the assailant. Re: why it takes 6 bullets to neutralize a large, determined attacker, see the posts above.

And stop calling him a 'kid', he was a grown-ass man who weighed 300lbs.

EVEN IF HE DID ROB A STORE OR DISOBEY A THUG-COP'S

Brown robbed a store, but you're calling the cop a thug. Do you realize how crazy that sounds? The cognitive dissonance must be mind-blowing.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 16:38 | 5487707 Suisse
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It is when he is attacking a police officer and trying to take his firearm you mouth breathing, Obama voter.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 14:43 | 5487117 Zerozen
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It is the black community's responsibility to process evidence to indict someone?

He didn't say it was their responsibility to process evidence. He said: they are unable to process facts. As in, the facts indicate that your sainted martyr was actually a thug who got into a fight with a cop and ended up dead. Apparently the black community either doesn't comprehend that or doesn't care, or just doesn't give a shit about objectivity and justice - they want their kind of "justice" - the lynch mob kind of justice where they get to play the perpetual victim and white people must pay.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 14:53 | 5487190 Fedaykinx
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i offer this post a a surrogate for upvotes.  fyi don't start a post with italics.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 15:06 | 5487272 XqWretch
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Look, I dont give a shit about the black community or any of this race baiting bullshit. I really dont. What I care about is the FACTS that are shown to me on a regular basis that cops are killing people and getting away with it ALL THE FUCKING TIME. If this situation brings light to that, it makes me a happy camper. You guys trying to disregard that problem, and pose this as some "Oh these darkies just hate whites," shows your ignorance at looking at the bigger picture. The fact that the state couldnt provide enough evidence to at least get a manslaughter trial is a glaring example of how corrupt police and the justice system are. And THAT, my fellow posters, is what we should be focusing on. 

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 15:38 | 5487401 Zerozen
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Sometimes cops shoot people, and it's wrong.

Sometimes cops shoot people, and it's right.

In this case, I think the facts of the incident speak for themselves and it was a good shooting, from a legal/self-defense perspective.

To me, the fact that the state couldn't provide enough evidence to get any kind of trial doesn't make me assume it was corrupt, it makes me assume that the prosecution didn't have a case.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 18:18 | 5488251 Tek Kinkreet
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These racists are staring at their own future and I guess they see it as a good thing. Mind controlled idiots that will be begging their masters for instruction on how to wipe their asses one day.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 15:10 | 5487298 Larry Dallas
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Exactly, Fedaykinx.

Scientific evidence doesn't lie.

I blame this squarely on the Brown parents not raising their son and just defering to the justice system to do the heavy lifting for them.

 

 

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 15:37 | 5487400 zerophilo
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ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?! HE WAS SHOT 6 TIMES WHILE BEING UNARMED. THE FACTS SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 13:47 | 5486713 TungstenBars
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Regardless of race or circumstance, the police will amlost always be allowed to et away with murder. The system is broken. 

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 13:48 | 5486727 SethDealer
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hey Ferguson... GET A JOB

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 13:51 | 5486751 TungstenBars
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Police abuse and crime goes unpunished against all races and walks of life in America, and is gettign worse. Quit pretending only the ghetto gets it. I'm not saying this specific incient was injustice, but in general police corruption and crime is rapidly rising. We are the enemy. 

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 13:56 | 5486779 Fedaykinx
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this is about a specific case being used to rabble rouse, not any problems you or i might have with the state of american law enforcement in general.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 14:01 | 5486832 TungstenBars
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It matters not. Regardless of what happened in Ferguson that night it is ridiculous to think there even was a legitimate investigation into the events.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 13:52 | 5486756 Drummond
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If you can't support others causes then don't expect anyone to support yours when they come for your bullion.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 13:56 | 5486786 TungstenBars
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Exactly, I'm surprised there are many ZH readers that are stupid to believe that once the chips fall civilian killers will treat Jamal from Ferguson and Charles the gold holder any differently. YOU ARE ALL THEIR ENEMY. The fact of the matter is there will come a time when those "feral animals" will be a better ally then the armed enforcers coming for your property. 

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 14:41 | 5487098 XqWretch
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Amen

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 14:58 | 5487209 oddjob
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Yeah, but to realize that a person would have to put 2 and 2 together.

hey look its a black kid stealing a bag of chips, safeties off everybody.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 16:10 | 5487547 zerophilo
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Exactly, get your finger on the trigger for petty theft.

Tue, 11/25/2014 - 18:30 | 5488293 Tek Kinkreet
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And don't forget jaywalking! Also, all kids over 13 weighing over 200 lbs and taller than 6 ft are guilty as hell!

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