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The Only Way To Stop The Empire

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Submitted by Dmitry Orlov via Club Orlov blog,

The final days of US empire are fast approaching. Perhaps its end will pass slowly and gradually, or perhaps the event will unfold rapidly and catastrophically. Maybe chaos will break loose, or maybe its demise will be organized well and proceed smoothly. This nobody knows, but the end of empire is coming as surely as day follows night and sun follows rain. Overexpansion, overreach and over-indebtedness will take their toll—as all past empires have discovered. Empires are like bacteria in a Petrie dish; unthinking, unseeing, unfeeling, they expand until they run out of food or contaminate their environment with their waste, and then they die. They are automatons, and they just can’t help it: they are programmed to expand or die, expand or die, and, in the end, expand and die.

What does the empire feed on? It feeds on money and fear; your money and your fear, both obtained with your cooperation. It is bigger now than when it faced an actual adversary in the Soviet Union. Russia is no adversary; all it wants is to be a normal country, at peace with the world. But the empire won’t let it, will it? It must create enemies. Who are our enemies? According to the authors of endless war they are North Korea, Iran, Syria, and Islamic terrorists. Are any of them actually capable of threatening the US? Well, yes, but they are all quite easy to deter. But the plan of the authors of endless war is not to deter them; it is to back them into a corner with political instability and sanctions, while whipping up the population on both sides into fear-filled frenzy.

We all know that the US military-industrial complex has become a self-perpetuating and uncontrollable organism, just like Dwight D. Eisenhower warned us in 1961. Everyone knows the phrase and Eisenhower's warning—it is part of our collective memory. At a trillion dollars a year and growing, with over 1000 bases ringing the planet, it has expanded far beyond what Eisenhower could have imagined in his worst nightmare. We can’t say we didn’t know: he warned us. After the National-Socialist episode in Germany, many good Germans voiced regrets at not speaking up, claiming that they didn’t know what was being done in their name. But we do not have that excuse: we all knew all along.

Nor was it the first time we were warned. General Smedley Butler told us before, in 1933, and his words are still with us, posted online. Why is it that everyone, generals included, suddenly gain wisdom immediately upon reaching retirement? Butler offered an explanation: his “mind was in suspended animation while serving as a soldier and following orders.” In 1933 Butler told us that he “was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism.” He said:

“I helped make Mexico, especially Tampico, safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefits of Wall Street. The record of racketeering is long. I helped purify Nicaragua for the international banking house of Brown Brothers in 1909-1912…I brought light to the Dominican Republic for American sugar interests in 1916. In China I helped to see to it that Standard Oil went its way unmolested.”

This empire is nothing new, and we knew what it is and what it does all along. We can’t say we didn’t know. We have watched throughout our lives as the US put down every popular uprising against local autocrats and oligarchs, placed countries under US control, then helped organize and train the death squads that killed off the opposition. Think of Indonesia, Argentina, or Honduras. We watched as the empire crushed every democratic government that threatened US business interests under the false pretext of “anti-communism,” starting with Iran in 1953, Guatemala in 1954, and proceeding to Congo, Haiti (numerous times), and most notably and infamously Chile in 1973 (assassinating president Salvador Allende on September 11, 1973), Nicaragua in the 1980’s, and many, many others. (For details see William Blum’s Killing Hope.) And of course, many of us lived through the epic lies and genocide of millions in Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia during the so-called “Vietnam War.” We knew, we watched, and we paid taxes that paid for the bullets and the bombs.

More recently we’ve seen the barefaced lies of empire laid out for all to see in Iraq, Libya, Syria, Afghanistan, Somalia, Georgia, Pakistan, Yemen, Ukraine... they never end! But the trouble we stir up in other places never seems to come home and ring our doorbell, does it? Maybe that’s why it keeps on going. We think that we can just ignore it and go on with our lives—that it won’t affect us. Or does it?

Let’s leave aside the destruction of democracy that always accompanies a militarized, fascist police state that the US has gradually turned into. And let’s ignore the violence that pervades US society, or the vast gulag of incarceration that disposes of our useless eaters. Consider that the only military attack on US soil that actually scored a palpable hit since Pearl Harbor was 9/11. Pearl Harbor was on the periphery, way out in the Pacific, “A Day that will live in Infamy,” the more so since FDR knew it was coming and did all he could to provoke it by cutting Japan off from oil supplies, directly provoking it into launching the attack. But Hawaii is the periphery while 9/11 struck at the heart of the empire, the financial center in New York that drives the imperial wealth pump, and the Pentagon, which is charged with the mission of US world domination.

Whether you believe that 19 Arabs armed with box cutters who couldn’t fly propeller planes took down 3 World Trade buildings that plummeted straight down at the speed of freefall in what looked like controlled demolition (yes there were 3, look up “Building 7”), and destroyed a section of the Pentagon, or whether you believe it was an inside job, doesn’t matter. The point is, in that act of destruction, the wars of the empire finally came home.

What was the result? Did these events cause us to reconsider what we are doing? Of course not! Instead, we went all-in for war. Remember, the empire is an automaton, a self-perpetuating organism, living on money and fear. What better way to whip up fear than to stage, or to allow, or to simply fail to prevent, an attack on the “homeland”—which is, by the way, a Nazi propaganda term. The purpose of war is simply to cause more war, since it is so profitable for the badly misnamed “defense industry.” Butler told us in 1933 that “war is a racket,” and documented massive war profiteering during WWI. Do you know how much money Lockheed, Northrop-Grumman, Boeing, General Dynamics, Raytheon et al. are making from the “War on Terror”? The sums are astronomical.

As you read these words, the empire is busy doing its work in Ukraine. Here is how that works. First, it overthrows the elected government in a US-backed coup. Next, it directs its local puppet regime to unleash a military attack and organize death squads to deal with the population in the east that won't go along with the US-backed coup, in this case using actual Nazi-branded death squads, complete with Nazi SS Insignias. (Anyone can verify these facts with the most cursory internet search.) And for the final, consummate imperialist touch, it votes in the UN (together with Canada) against a resolution condemning the Ukrainian Nazis and other racist murderers, while the Europeans shamefacedly abstain. This sort of plan used to work really well, and so the empire keeps repeating it over and over again, even though the results are worse every time.

Vast numbers of Americans support the empire’s wars of conquest because they help maintain their lavish lifestyles. They bother some of us more than others. Many of us are adamantly against them, but only a few find it emotionally unbearable to countenance the destruction of millions of lives in our names and with our money. What makes them different? Who knows, you would have to ask a psychologist.

The question for those who oppose endless war is, What have we done about it? A mass movement in the 1960’s that added up to an uprising by a vast segment of society perhaps had something to do with ending the conflict in Vietnam. In spite of these protests, the empire was able to extend the war by an extra five years all the way to 1973, when it agreed to end it on the same terms that had been offered in 1968 to Nobel “peace laureate” Henry Kissinger. There has been no significant anti-war protest since then, and certainly none that succeeded in preventing or ending war. Why?

First, the draft was ended. This put an end to the involvement of average US families in the wars of empire, and therefore ending the requirement for consent of the governed. The strategists realized that the draft was a disaster for the empire. The new, much better and cheaper way to procure cannon fodder for the endless war is to enlist the children of the underclass, by using economic oppression in order to deprive them of any other means of advancement except military service.

 

Second, the military has been outsourced and privatized, requiring even less involvement by US families in the military, and less need for their consent. “You’re all volunteers, so shut up” is the attitude.

 

Third, the vastly increased scope of domestic spying by the NSA and other government agencies has helped keep everyone under control and stifle dissent.

 

Fourth is the tight government/corporate control of the US media, which has become consummately successful in brainwashing and propagandizing the population.

 

Finally, there is the war on whistleblowers and journalists who expose the truth, from Tom Drake to William Binney, Sibel Simons, Jesselyn Radack, Bradley Manning and Julian Assange. If necessary, the police, who are vastly more militarized than in the past, together with national guard troops, can squash any dissent like a bug. All these measures ensure that efforts at reform pursued through legal, nonviolent means such as voting, protest, civil disobedience, civil resistance, etc. will have absolutely no effect. The only action that can possibly stop the empire in its tracks is cutting off its food supply—the tax money on which it lives. We have to starve the beast through divestment, capital expatriation, tax resistance, tax refusal and tax revolt. Former Secretary of State Alexander Haig told us this flat out in the 1980’s when, being confronted with huge protests over US Central American policy, he said: “Let them protest all they want as long as they pay their taxes.” Truer words were never uttered by a US official. Is there any evidence to contradict his statement? Has any other measure had any impact on the war machine? The honest answer is no. Millions of people around the world protested before the 2003 invasion of Iraq. These protests were ignored. No amount of protest or other efforts can stop it, because it doesn’t cut off the empire’s food supply of money and fear. Only by cutting off its funds by not paying taxes can we stop the empire.

Many have said that the US doesn’t need tax money as it survives on endless debt. Yes, the empire lives on debt, but the ability to sell debt is based on the bond rating of US treasury bonds. Most recently in June, 2014 S&P gave the US a AA+ rating with “stable outlook.”

If there is any doubt about the US credit rating, the ability to sell debt to continue financing the empire comes into question. The ability to collect taxes is what maintains the US bond rating. Any reduction of the US bond rating, and interest rates have to go up in order to continue attracting more investment. Then the interest on the debt balloons out of control and becomes unrepayable—never mind the principal, which they have no intention of ever paying back. By the way, the Tea Party’s efforts to shut down government by refusing to raise the debt ceiling was helping this effort for a time, although for different reasons. They thought that the welfare system is bankrupting the country. This is a laughable claim, because welfare spending looks negligible when compared to military spending. Still, they did manage to lower the bond rating for a time. Shutting down the federal government is a step in the right direction, and since in recent years only the Tea Party has managed to do it, lets give them some credit

If the US became unable to reliably collect taxes, then its ability to finance the empire with debt would be diminished, and the US would have to turn to increasing taxes—another politically unpalatable choice, especially in the age of the Tea Party, when the empire’s main constituency is dead-set against more taxes. So it is absolutely clear that the only thing that could stop the empire is a tax revolt. It wouldn’t even have to be that big; the slightest question about the ability of the federal government to collect taxes could reduce the bond rating. Even a minor reduction could raise interest rates enough to make the US debt unrepayable.

Let's get down to brass tacks: How do you avoid paying taxes, when the IRS withholds our salaries, and the tables are rigged to withhold about 15% more than necessary on average, so 80% of people get a refund? Did you think that this is a coincidence? No, this is a one-year interest-free loan to the empire from taxpayers. But it’s actually quite simple not to pay taxes. Get a W-4 form, write EXEMPT in the space provided, and turn it in to your friendly HR office. Your employer is not allowed to change it unless directed by the IRS. Normally they have no reason to question it.

Here’s what happened last time it was tried on a big scale. In 2007, Code Pink joined the War Resisters League to organize a national project for war tax refusal, to “Stop Bush’s Wars.” This was not a true tax revolt, just more or less a referendum on how many people would potentially support withholding a portion of their taxes owed, even a token amount. The online petition asked people if they would be willing to commit to withhold some of their taxes, even $1, if 100,000 other people would agree to do the same. Out of the US population of 316 million, how many people do you think signed it? About 2,000. So you see, there is not much evidence that people will do the only thing that could stop the empire: a true Tea Party tax revolt.

What this implies is that the empire will continue to churn along, and debt will continue to build up, because any other approach to paying for it is not feasible, and therefore collapse is inevitable. The aftermath of collapse is unpredictable; maybe there will be a soft landing, maybe not. But unless you are willing to engage in some form of tax revolt, collapse is inevitable. You will get to live with the results: stage a tax revolt now, or face collapse later.

Are you sure you want to take your chances on collapse? The results of a personal tax revolt are predictable: retribution with penalties and interest from the IRS; living in fear of having your salary, your property, even your house seized, or worse, your door broken down by federal agents (although these extreme measures don’t happen too often, they happen often enough to instill fear). Perhaps there would be loss of income, or even your job. Losing one’s job often leads to depression, divorce, drug or alcohol abuse, etc. So you may prefer collapse after all: loss of your savings, no heat, electricity or trash removal, shops looted or closed, armed gangs roaming the streets... Your choice!

On the other hand, collapse might go well! Hope springs eternal in the optimistic American heart. We are (or used to be) the “can-do” people. Maybe we can-do collapse better than anyone else? Doubtful though if you read Dmitry Orlov’s Collapse Gap presentation.

The results of collapse later are likely to be worse then the effects of tax revolt now. Especially, since the IRS takes years to catch up to exempt W-4 forms, and it would be even harder to crack down if it were being was done en masse. But it’s perfectly understandable if you opt to do nothing now and suffer no consequences, while engaging in ineffective protest to assuage your conscience. You probably have a family to support, an expensive hobby, or some other excuse. So you decide to take your chances with collapse later. After all, collapse might turn out OK for you! This psychology is quite understandable. I truly hope that collapse will be as painless as you wish it will be, but somehow I doubt it. Good luck though! Whatever happens, you will have to live with your decision for the rest of your life—be it long or short.

 

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Fri, 11/28/2014 - 21:57 | 5498164 logicalman
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Most want to reap the rewards of their own efforts.

Some want to reap the efforts of others.

Welcome to the human race.

 

Fri, 11/28/2014 - 22:10 | 5498182 drendebe10
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....fuk da gummint.... fuk all gummints

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 01:29 | 5498492 Doña K
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The IRS will make examples of a few people and the show will be over. We are at a point that the empire may self destruct. 

Either way, there will be a lot of pain, famine and crime when she blows.

The reset to a better world may take as long as a generation. Many do not have the time, many do not have the guts to bring it forward and very many are totally unaware of this.

It appears to me that the world can never be a better place overnight, but for now alliances in the east are countering the west's dominance and provide an equilibrium and minimize the raping.

Going long nail guns, physical PM's and taking your money out of the big banks slowly may be a better way of fighting back.

Meanwhile, hug your kids and tell them that you love them and make love to your spouse.

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 11:56 | 5498973 Idaho potato head
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+100

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 14:10 | 5499263 0b1knob
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I suppose its just part of the American libtard self hatred to celebrate the fall of Pax Americana but do you have any idea what will follow it?

A few years under the old school Chinese colonialism and the world will be nostalgic for the soft neocolonialism of the Americans.  

Be careful what you wish for.

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 15:02 | 5499359 actionjacksonbrownie
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I'm pretty sure most people in the middle east would gladly take their chances with the wealthy chinese.

 

The imperialist americans haven't exactly brought peace and prosperity to their lands (but they have relieved them of their burdensome gold holdings)

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 20:53 | 5500168 hot sauce technician
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Peace and prosperity are relative terms when it comes to the middle east. Saddam, Qaddafi and Assad didn't just appear out of nowhere and their people weren't necessarily better off under them than they are now.

The region has a long history of tribalism, holy war and human misery, with or without a 2003 US invasion. </stating the obvious>

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 03:02 | 5498567 August
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New York - London - Tel Aviv

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 10:56 | 5498836 Tall Tom
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There is another way which is still legal that the author did not address. IT DOES DEAL WITH THE ABILITY OF GOVERNMENT TO COLLECT REVENUE. However it means that YOU will have to SACRIFICE.

 

Withdraw from the Economy as much as you can. (I already have.)

 

Government can only tax monetary flow. They cannot tax pools of wealth. If the currency is not spent then they cannot tax it. So in order to create REVENUE they must borrow, or print, if they cannot collect taxes.

  • #1. Buy only that which is necessary for rudimentary survival. This limits corporate revenues, thus corporate profits, thus Government revenues upon those Corporate profits. Terminate your Cable Bill. Cut off your Cell Phone. Use WiFi to communicate on the Internet. Stop using large Banks. Cut your Credit Cards up.. Your participation is that which enables the Government to continue on the path to self destruction. Your level of participation is up to YOU. Compliance and complicity have the same Latin root. When you choose to comply then you choose to be complicit. You cannot honestly claim that you are against it when you are Financially supporting it. Financial support is SUPPORT. STOP IT. As I wrote THIS WILL BE A SACRIFICE. It will not be comfortable. (Of course the discomfort, pain, and misery of the oncoming Financial Collapse will be much more pronounced.)

 

  • #2. Buy local. Avoid Corporations like the plague. (...which they are just as infectious as the plague.) This means...Food and hard items. Now I realize that it will be difficult. Do this to the extent which it is possible..

 

  • #3. Buy hard goods Second Hand. Stop buying Chinese crap. Functional second hand goods generally are quality as they have withstood the test of time. Support your local Thrift Shops. Support your neighbor's by shopping their Garage Sales. (Even Gold can be garnered from those.)

 

  • #4. Divest out of the US Dollar. This will ultimately protect you from the ever eroding purchasing power of the US Currency. Precious Metals, Food, Toilet Paper, and other commodities will be more expensive later. You are all aware that the inflation rate for food is much, much higher than that which is reported as the Official Inflation Rate. Buy canned chicken, canned meats, fish, etc.

 

  • #5. Speculate. Through buying antibiotics you will be creating wealth which will be worth more than its weight in Gold in a post collapse environment. Antibiotic Ointments, salves, OTC Medicines, etc. are good purchases.

 

  • #6. Acquire Guns, Ammo, Fuels, Optics, and Chemicals. If your defense perimeter has been violated to the point where you need to use a handgun then most likely you are fucked. Rifles are for intermediate ranges. But you will need early warning systems. Think explosively. Chemicals will be extremely difficult to obtain in a post collapse environment. Chemicals are necessary for water purification.

 

These means are still currently legal. You do not have to look over your shoulder for the IRS Agent to steal all that you have and put you in a cage.

 

If just Three Million people were to do this it might knock a full percentage point off of GDP and stop growth. And that may be enough to cause a Currency Crisis.

 

Now I am ready for the litany of your excuses about why you cannot do it.

 

Well if you choose not to act then it will be far worse and may even cost you your life and your children's lives..

 

YOUR CHOICE.

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 14:36 | 5499299 Thought Processor
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Good food for thought.

 

Strange game indeed.  The only way to win is to not play.

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 18:31 | 5499852 Ass Burger
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I wonder what would happen if A LOT of people took your advice, but bought everything on credit cards, and then no one paid their debts. 

 

 

Sun, 11/30/2014 - 16:45 | 5502201 tonyw
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#1. Buy only that which is necessary for rudimentary survival

didn't black friday just show that is unlikely to happen?

Fri, 11/28/2014 - 22:17 | 5498190 ebworthen
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Yup, and the current problem being that those who want to reap the rewards of their own efforts are not hanging those who want to reap the efforts of others.

Fri, 11/28/2014 - 22:44 | 5498219 kchrisc
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"Most want to reap the rewards of their own efforts. Some want to reap the efforts of others. Welcome to the human race."

Most would resist, and, if given a chance, even harm a mugger.

Why then tolerate muggers in suits and ties? And tolerate their goons in the streets?

An American, not US subject.

Fri, 11/28/2014 - 23:24 | 5498288 jimmytorpedo
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I don't pay taxes AND am ready for a collapse.

Bring it on motherfuckers.

Please don't make me wait another 3 years,....

(I said please, so please disregard the cursing)

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 11:40 | 5498924 Salah
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Every longterm operational paradigm starts as a solution to some intractable problem; no different here.  How to create post WWII growth?  Simple, you get your (Europe, Asia) gold back by earning it through economic growth, and by the way, your 'reserves' will be physical US currency, and the most precious substance in the world (oil) will only be denominated in dollars.

Sounds like a plot from a Frank Herbert novel, huh? 

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 14:45 | 5499313 Jumbotron
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The American Empire begins to roll over around 2020.....give or take a couple of years.  (think 2018-2022) 

The wheels finally begin to come clean off....one by one.....after 2025.  That's when the combined weight of taxes, total government and consumer debt, the Baby Boomer retiree wave, technology (think automation, robots, Sky-Net, algorithms, etc.), idioacracy, both governmental, and financial corruption, and the Great Unwind of the Greatest Ponzi Ever.....all converge for an unstoppable head wind that will tilt things over finally.

Oh...right....Peak Cheap  Energy is now a complete, universally, recognized event.....as the American Shale play gets played out.....and the rest of the world's fracking plays begin to peak and go into terminal decline by 2030.  Saudi Arabia by 2025 must admit most of its regular oil fields are too cut with water to pick up the slack.

And there won't be thorium reactors, or solar tech breakthroughs or wind  power breakthroughs to pick up the slack.

The Long Emergency as outlined by James Kuntsler will be in full swing by 2025 and beyond.  We are already seeing the signs of this.....and what  I mentioned above.  The iceburg hit the Global Titanic in 2007.....the ship begins to founder and sink by 2025 and beyond.

 

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 15:53 | 5499483 bid the soldier...
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The real Titanic sank in less than 3 hours.

It will take the Jumbotron Titanic 18 years to sink.

Hello?   Can't you find a better metaphor?

Sun, 11/30/2014 - 00:46 | 5500723 Jumbotron
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AHEM......2025 is 10 years away.

 

Plus...the Titanic was FAR less complex than Ponzi Scheme America.  So many players with a stake in keeping it afloat, with SO many ways to extend and pretend.  But like the Titanic....physics will win in the end.

 

Fri, 11/28/2014 - 22:00 | 5498166 Seasmoke
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EXEMPT. ITS VOLUNTARY. I CHOOSE NOT TO VOLUNTEER. 

Fri, 11/28/2014 - 22:02 | 5498172 samsara
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ANother great post by Dmitri. Thanks Tylers

Fri, 11/28/2014 - 23:15 | 5498268 YHC-FTSE
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Here here! That was damned fine writing. Anyone can pontificate perhaps even as eloquently as this, but very few can provide actionable data for real change like Dmitri did here.

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 04:14 | 5498611 August
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FWIW the piece is from Orlov's blog, but author is named Gary Flomenhoft, "expat and tax refuser".

Expatriation, for the young at least, is a great choice.  You may still be paying taxes, but they'll be going somewhere other than to the Imperial Treasury, and the US welfare-warfare state.

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 07:58 | 5498713 Alberich
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The Collapse Gap article linked at the end was a very good read, I recommend.

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 08:01 | 5498716 overmedicatedun...
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1 trillion in new debt in 8 weeks:

"The Daily Treasury Statement that was released Wednesday afternoon as Americans were preparing to celebrate Thanksgiving revealed that the U.S. Treasury has been forced to issue $1,040,965,000,000 in new debt since fiscal 2015 started just eight weeks ago in order to raise the money to pay off Treasury securities that were maturing and to cover new deficit spending by the government.

During those eight weeks, Treasury took in $341,591,000,000 in revenues. That was a record for the period between Oct. 1 and Nov. 25. But that record $341,591,000,000 in revenues was not enough to finance ongoing government spending let alone pay off old debt that matured."

Fri, 11/28/2014 - 22:06 | 5498176 arrowrod
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You are forgetting what it is like to be a young man.  They look forward to shootin' and fuckin'.  Self preservation and wealth have nothing to do with it.

Fri, 11/28/2014 - 22:08 | 5498179 Solio
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The People were sold down the river by congress in 1913. Nothing was fixed since then so the time and energy of The People has been stolen. The endemic financial fraud is part of the system of the way government works and justice squandered. The corporatist system is the easiest to corrupt with the payment of fiat, money from nothing, to the "representatives." The owners of the corporations get the representation, not the invisible People!

Fri, 11/28/2014 - 22:12 | 5498185 saveUSsavers
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This USA is the most corrupt in history, any country who doesn't see it is BRAINWASHED by MEDIA propaganda! Why the fuck are you buying our debt? Why the fuck are you stupid fuckers allowing our military on you soil? YOU ARE FUCKING IDIOTS!

Fri, 11/28/2014 - 22:39 | 5498214 kchrisc
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I wouldn't put it the way you did, but:

Dear Germans (and others),

Aren't you tired of the DC US occupation of your country?

Aren't you tired of the DC US using your country to commit the very crimes they accused the Nazis of?

Aren't you tired of being the perennial base for war and war crimes?

Aren't you concerned that the DC US may drag your country again into a devastating war?

Aren't you tired of being spied on by the DC US?

Don't you want your gold back?

An American, not US subject.

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 00:19 | 5498397 Anusocracy
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Not until going along with the US screws them over royally.

Same as ending bad habits after perceived benefits are confronted with loss of your life.

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 03:12 | 5498572 August
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>>>This USA is the most corrupt in history...

Maybe yes, but what pisses me off is the Yankee self-righteousness.  Many Americans seem to actually believe that they and their government still constitute a shining city on a hill (arguably true - in 1820).

America is what happens when you put Puritans in charge of a mid-latitude continent: mind-blowing hypocrisy.

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 06:22 | 5498678 lincis
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They allow that because, either they are scared or greedy. Thats very simple. Banking and finance Cabal is running the military, political and all the rest of the corporate USA. I hope this will change soon.

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 15:58 | 5499495 bid the soldier...
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Imperial Rome demanded tribute from its satrapies

We sell our satrapies bonds with the full faith and credit clause printed on every one.

Fri, 11/28/2014 - 22:13 | 5498187 ebworthen
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Mr. Orlov - you are spot on.  Extra points for bringing up Butler and Eisenhower, and the lack of a draft.

When men who spent their lives in the military warn you about the Military Industrial Complex (M.I.C.) - people should listen.

The truth so often falls on deaf ears, because sugar-coated lies are so much easier when you want to believe.

Fri, 11/28/2014 - 23:10 | 5498256 disabledvet
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You have to define "war" first.

Communication theory is in fact not a theory.  Even plants communicate even though they have no known neurology or "neurons."

We allegedly have "feremones" or "animal attractions" but no one really has "distilled" them in a lab.  Not for lack of trying I imagine.

Without any doubt however "war" is defined before it is in fact a war and unfortunately "truth is the most important casualty."

Perhaps if We the People were told the truth about "social media...

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 12:12 | 5499010 Tall Tom
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You are right. nobody has ever "distilled" a "feremone" in a lab. LMAO

 

But we have synthesized pheremones for decades. (Synthesis, as a Chemistry term and biology term, means to PRODUCE)

 

Try this search and learn to fucking spell the term...

 

https://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=AwrSbnvl7nlUdLcAFdxXNyoA;_ylc=X1MDMjc2NjY3OQRfcgMyBGZyA3lmcC10LTkwMS1zBGdwcmlkA1MucUhZempUVFYuWHdKTXdHTDM3aUEEbl9yc2x0AzAEbl9zdWdnAzMEb3JpZ2luA3NlYXJjaC55YWhvby5jb20EcG9zAzAEcHFzdHIDBHBxc3RybAMEcXN0cmwDMTkEcXVlcnkDcGhlcm9tb25lIHN5bnRoZXNpcwR0X3N0bXADMTQxNzI3NzIwNQ--?p=pheromone+synthesis&fr2=sb-top-search&fr=yfp-t-901-s&fp=1

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 09:54 | 5498795 gswifty
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Ebworthen.  It's not that those ears are deaf, they're ignorant. Most people are unaware of Butler or Eisenhower's quotes or the accompanying history. Most don't read much or if they do it's not zh or articles like this. More people are receptive to learning/knowing the truth they just don't know where to look.

Fri, 11/28/2014 - 22:15 | 5498189 petkovplamen
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Problem is a wounded animal is the most dangerous. The USA empire won't go quietly into the night and give up its position. If you think it will you've got another thing coming. I predict a WWIII with RUssia within 5 years period. And this time it will be nuclear. US doesnt need solders. it thinks it can win via superior technology.

Fri, 11/28/2014 - 23:14 | 5498264 Karaio
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Petkov:

You are very optimistic!

I believe that between six and eight months later than twelve months for all we turn radioactive barbecue.

: - /

Fri, 11/28/2014 - 23:50 | 5498348 OceanX
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Well, everything else is a fake and fraud in the U.S.  ...do you really think we have the nukes we bought and paid for? 

Fri, 11/28/2014 - 23:26 | 5498290 ramacers
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Good view . WWLast will be soon, and US simply will not emerge as Empire again. it will be unimaginably devastating.

Fri, 11/28/2014 - 23:28 | 5498294 jimmytorpedo
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Wounded animal?

I prefer Doug Casey's analogy of a dying dinosaur thrashing around,...

Hopefully cooler heads will prevail when it comes to pressing the "Button"

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 16:02 | 5499505 bid the soldier...
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ABSOLUTEMENTE.

Don't forget there is still the worst worse case scenario, which I'm not at liberty to reveal yet.

Fri, 11/28/2014 - 22:17 | 5498191 Reaper
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They want to believe in Superman and Captain America. Americans, like the Israelites under the prophet Samuel, crave a king or all-powerful government. Nothing in the nature of man has changed in three thousand years. They trust. They hope. They are disappointed. They lose.

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 03:21 | 5498575 beaglebog
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God wanted to punish man ... so He made him obedient.

Fri, 11/28/2014 - 22:25 | 5498201 A Lunatic
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"The rumors of my impending demise are greatly exaggerated, bitchez....."  -Uncle Sam-

Fri, 11/28/2014 - 22:35 | 5498205 kchrisc
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The fastest and least violent way to bring this shit show to an end is to pull the plug.

They have everyone of us yoked to the plow of debt and their dictates. Unlike a draft animal, we can just turn around and disconnect that yoke and walk away and tell them to get bent.

They have literally built a ponzi skyscraper on our backs. "Pull it!" and let it free fall down upon them.

 

The most powerful weapon the American people have is Rejection.

The system of fraud and theft that has been built up upon the backs of the American people is dependent upon our backs. Withdraw our backs, and the whole scheme collapses. This is our greatest weapon.

Stop Paying--Put it into food, and precious metals, etc. They stole whatever "debt money" they loaned you in the first place (fractional reserve banking) and soon you won't be able to pay them anyways, so Stop Paying.

Stop Obeying--If they are in violation of the Constitution then they are not legitimate anyways, so Stop Obeying their unlawful dictates.

Stop Playing--Stop being a tool for them to use, mock, and call "stupid." Stop Playing.

The Four Rs
Rejection: Stop Paying, Stop Obeying, Stop Playing.
Revolution: It is inevitable, so prepare, as they are.
Retribution: The guilty must answer for their crimes against the American people and the Constitution.
Restoration: Restore the American people, country and Constitutional republic.

An American, not US subject.

Fri, 11/28/2014 - 22:36 | 5498206 RaceToTheBottom
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If I was FSA, including the corporate branches, I would be afraid....

What you mean, bra, no monies?

Fri, 11/28/2014 - 22:38 | 5498211 bitterwolf
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Your article comes off like some soveriegn citizen movement- with this you dont have to pay taxes mantra shrouded in some do gooder BS about how you are actually helping yourself and US society...lol...Uncle sam gonna fuck you good  hard and long over some tard shit your pushing, lol...if you want any credibility at all with your fellow citizens- you need a solid group of true believers with combat skills and rifles..a la  BUNDY RANCH militia...dont ever remember when USG backed all the way the fuck off as when that event went down.

Stay Bitter

Fri, 11/28/2014 - 22:46 | 5498223 Bogdog
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Unfortunately, these facts are simply not recognized as such by most of the U.S. popluation. We think too highly of ourselves, don't realize the addictions of our acquisitive nature and yes, even our greed. We have not evolved sufficiently as organisms to deal with the consequences of our abilities in the fashioning of weaponry of vast destructive capability, nor our ability to create endless amounts of worthless fiat, wall-papering over our inability to create real value.

The only real answer to the rinse-and-repeat nature of societal collapse and recovery is for man to evolve, to transcend his base nature. And good luck with that.

"Into the cold night I spoke aloud, and the voice was, no voice I knew."   - a zen master.

Move beyond the human animal. Evolve. Transcend. Enlighten.

 

Fri, 11/28/2014 - 23:10 | 5498260 RichardP
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Move beyond the human animal. Evolve. Transcend.

Become a bird, maybe?

Blackbird singing in the dead of night
Take these broken wings and learn to fly
All your life
You were only waiting for this moment to arise.

Blackbird singing in the dead of night
Take these sunken eyes and learn to see
All your life
You were only waiting for this moment to be free.

Blackbird fly Blackbird fly
Into the light of the dark black night.

Lennon/ McCartney

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 03:24 | 5498577 Overfed
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....and then McCartney took the blue pill, went back into the Matrix, and became a full-tilt statist shill.

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 03:50 | 5498597 RichardP
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Seems that the pay has been good.

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 09:21 | 5498737 Lea
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"....and then McCartney took the blue pill, went back into the Matrix, and became a full-tilt statist shill."

McCartney has always been a sanctimonious fool, but he's certainly no statist. Do you even know what you're talking about?

Let's try and get definitions right:

The State as a megaphone for lobbies and private corporations = the very opposite of statism.

The State as a megaphone for the will of the people, with key sectors of the economy (the MIC, energy, water, central banks and money printing, etc) belonging to the State and not private corporations or banks = statism.

OK?

 

 

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 11:02 | 5498853 Tall Tom
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Statism means support for the state.

 

The state is evil and has no value whatsoever. 

 

The state acts as a parasite upon the productive.

 

And you, Law Enforcement Agent (lea), are a statist.

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 14:49 | 5499327 Jumbotron
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"....and then McCartney took the blue pill, went back into the Matrix, and became a full-tilt statist shill."

McCartney has always been a sanctimonious fool, but he's certainly no statist. Do you even know what you're talking about?

 

AHEM !!!!!

He did accept the Knighthood from Queen Elizabeth.  He is now a Knight.  He is called SIR Paul McCartney.

Seems pretty statist to me.

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 18:38 | 5499872 Ass Burger
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Yup. But you see what Lennon's Revolution got him. ) ;

 

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 13:15 | 5499176 tarabel
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I think George said it better...

Let me tell you how it will be

There's one for you, nineteen for me

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 18:38 | 5499876 Ass Burger
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You say you want a revolution...

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 07:34 | 5498699 SunRise
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That's about the dumbest bloviation ever written on this blog.  "The only real answer is to evolve - Good luck with that.",  followed by the hopeless advice to "Move beyond the human animal. Evolve. Transcend. Enlighten."  This far east, far out mystic stuff leaves me myth-tified and miffed every time.

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 14:36 | 5499311 Boubou
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Good - putting this almighty fuckup of a species in the wider context.

You have to blame God at the end of the day. He created a species with the capability and the determination to destroy all other species and then himself .This political discussion is only but  one symptom of that central fuckup. If not God, you have to blame the cycle of evolution which is working toward the big reset and reboot.

Right now US is the full spectrum threat and out guns all others combined. But it is not enough for them.

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 20:44 | 5500135 August
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God's gotta face facts:  this monkey thing is just not working out.

Fri, 11/28/2014 - 22:54 | 5498232 Steroid
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It must be true! 

The last acts of an empire are always to sack the treasury.

Fri, 11/28/2014 - 22:56 | 5498233 gwar5
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I'm all for letting it burn and reconstitute the best parts. But there are those who want it to burn on purpose so that self-goverment and self-determination can be replaced.

Fri, 11/28/2014 - 23:01 | 5498240 Seize Mars
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I think that Dmitry Orlov knows what the fuck he's talking about, and this article is right as rain. However, there is an issue here of how to get people to stage a tax revolt. Most people do not act as a unit, they only tend to do so when it's directly beneficial. (By the way, I think this is why Mr. Bauer changed his named to Rothschild and surrounded himself with a group that is all about acting as a unit.)

I just don't see it happening, ever. I do see, however, a very big, messy and destructive collapse coming.

At least there is a nice list of people to thank, kept here: http://www.policestateusa.com/

 

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 11:33 | 5498905 pazmaker
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Sounds accurate about this empire USA. But to say that Russia just wants to be a normal country and just wants to exist is quite silly, naive, or just dishonest. I would through China in there with Russia and USA also.

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 18:48 | 5499895 Ass Burger
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Exactly. It would be so easy through collective action. But at the moment when solidarity mattered most, someone would sell us all down the river for their own benefit. 

Fri, 11/28/2014 - 23:02 | 5498243 honestann
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GET OUTTA DODGE.

THEN LET IT COLLAPSE.

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 00:08 | 5498372 Karaio
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honestann:

You travel by plane I travel by motorcycle.

Sincerity between fellow travelers, their impressions are the ones I have.

I'll put a link motorcyclists in Brazil, most are old like me, many retirees with large bikes, people who when you go out walking not less than 1,000 Kilômetros a day, people going from Chile to Alaska:

http://www.fazedoresdechuva.com/forums/forum.php

Many interesting photos on that page.

:-)

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 02:23 | 5498538 honestann
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Ah, what a wonderful time browsing through those pix.  I'll finish browsing later.

I'm not sure whether I ever mentioned it, but I too used to ride motorcycles years ago.  But tiny ones compared to you guys; Hondas in and around the 550cc range.  I figure I drove about 100,000km without an accident, including three 1~3 month camp-out-every-night journeys of 5,000 to 10,000km.

Unfortunately I never traveled in south america then (or alaska).  Boo hoo!  I did travel around parts of south america in the past 10 years, but only in cars.  And more recently in my tiny little airplane.  So fun to wander around the empty atacama and andes this way, and a bike must be just about as wonderful... better in some ways, maybe not quite as fabulous in others.  But... it is so great being out there in the environment on a bike.  Just can't beat that.  All the reality just feels so real that way, eh?

Thanks for the link and pix.  Exhilarating.

Fri, 11/28/2014 - 23:04 | 5498246 Karaio
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The thing will be for good through economic exchanges or worse, in the ass, as happened when the barbarians invaded Rome or when Mao Zedong kicked the US and her ass Chian Kai-shek vassal after the second world war.

Before that China had the Revolution Boxsers and Russia in 1917.

Violent riots, insane things happened.

Babylon, Egypt, Greece, Italy, Portugal, Spain and the United Kingdom never recovered for different reasons but the bottom has the same origin: miscegenation.

Make no mistake, the Middle East things are going the same way, do not be surprised if, when the fall of the current Empire (USA), simultaneously in what is now Israel will be another diaspora.

Israel is nothing more than a catchall worse than Brazil with regard to miscegenation, the only thing that unites these people is the last name, the yarmulke, circumcision and the bellicose nature.

Ancient cultures genetically consolidades not accept invaders, are as white blood cells, fight and expel foreign bodies.

When I say that Japan will return to eat rice and fish in the near future, is not apocalyptic prediction or why not like Japanese, history shows us that Japan is only what it is because it was necessary after the second world war as a factory electronic components to the US.

The Meiji era created a cultured society in the manufacturing arts.

This importance is gone, the priorities are elsewhere, and today Japan fuck!

South Korea and Taiwan follow the same path.

This North americada culture for-profit in the short term without regard to the traditions and bonds of trust in the long run scare any historian.

The Chinese were smart, they saw it happen, prepared and now are they who say that Fuck the USA.

The secret of these matriarchal cultures is that the grandparents teach their grandchildren about the past, something that Hollywood has always tried to break with his liberal films where anything goes from drug homosexuality, since putarias insane rock bottom that is to deceive or lie to their advantage.

Is not how it works national unity.

It is in this way that old and homogeneous cultures survive.

Sorry for the long and truncated text in the "googleana" translation.

:-)

Fri, 11/28/2014 - 23:08 | 5498251 Fuku Ben
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Potentially the worst part of a collapse of the US would be the loss of the founding principles of the country. They could certainly serve as a great starting point for a real global government based on freedom

Based on what we hear coming from the androgynous scumbag mouthpieces for the globalists now like Obama, Cameron and Abbott to name a few, even something as simple as freedom of speech will no longer exist for anyone in any context around the globe

Cameron's speech at the UN is a good example

Fri, 11/28/2014 - 23:57 | 5498361 Karaio
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Moral principles of the founders?

Are you kidding!

How many territories the US bought?

Invaded Mexico, Cuba, kidnapped a princess in Hawaii, killed a lot of Indians etc. .

Intruded in the first world war that could have ended two years earlier.

Fled and left the Russian Army facing the worst part of the German Army (the Russians lost 23 million people between civilian and military).

Shamelessly fucked several countries in Latin America, trained torturers, my father was arrested, was a nationalist.

Many of his friends were tortured by people trained by the CIA.

The father of my wife was tortured in 1967.

Who gets who takes a slap in the face never forget!

At the time agents of religious undercover CIA Mormons acted with impunity.

Descendants beliefs as a Jehovah's Testemunas pay for it today not only here but also in Russia!

Speaking of preaching, or US citizens much less Jews have power of attorney signed by God much less Jesus Christ.

Nowadays any guy with a loud voice, articulate and with good memory who has read the Bible can be evangelical pastor or Catholic priest.

It's all the same bitching.

Money, money, status.

When I see Putin to retire to a monastery to talk and reflect on their future actions feel safe.

When I watch Obama address a golf course with his bat in hand I'm terrified, I know that comes shit.

hehe.

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 02:15 | 5498532 Leraconteur
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You know that you posted events from 1850-2014, right?
You know that the founders moved to NA 1612-1812, right?

You need to work on your argument.

Seems to me the founders had sold values and that a few hundred years later those values became corrupted. 

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 13:14 | 5499173 Tall Tom
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Fled and left the Russian Army facing the worst part of the German Army (the Russians lost 23 million people between civilian and military).

 

First we have never committed such an act.

 

If you are writing about World War I then the USA declared War on 6 April, 1917. The war ended on 11 November 1918. The US involvement was not even two years. One yaer and seven months we were at war with Germany. Our involvement was mininal.

 

I am assuming that you are writing about World War II...which I am assuming that you are because you reference 23 Million Soviet deaths...

 

The United States declared a state of War against Germany on 11 December 1941. This was a retaliation for Hitler's declaration of War against the United States made a few hours earlier. The USA declared a state of War against the Empire of Japan on 8 December, 1941, after the attack by Japanese Naval Forces against the USA at Pearl Harbor.

 

However, in May, 1941, a GOOD SEVEN MONTHS BEFORE THE UNITED STATES WAS DIRECTLY INVOLVED IN WORLD WAR II, Hitler broke the RUSSIAN GERMAN PEACE TREATY and attacked Russian forces in Poland, driving deep into Russia by December, 1941.

 

Now just how in the hell did we "flee" our Russian friends, those allied with Germany, until the Germans decided to invade them?

 

TO THE CONTRARY WE SENT THEM WEAPONS AFTER HITLER'S INVASION. We flooded them with aircraft and tanks. We gave them as much support as we could before we entered the war seven months later as we did not want the Russians to fail. If Russia had succumbed to the Nazi onslaught the World would be a very much different place.

 

I am sorry that the British and the French got their asses kicked and that they retreated after the defeat at Dunquerke. But Russia, AT THAT TIME, was ALLIED with Hitler.

 

Nobody fled and left the Russians to die.

 

The Russians fatal mistake was making the alliance with Hitler in the first place. That ended up costing 23 Million lives.

 

You are so CONFUSED.

 

Primeiro nós nunca ter cometido tal ato.

Se você está escrevendo sobre a I Guerra Mundial, em seguida, os EUA declararam guerra em 6 de abril de 1917. A guerra terminou em 11 de novembro de 1918. O envolvimento dos EUA tinha nem dois anos. Um yaer e sete meses estávamos em guerra com a Alemanha. Nosso envolvimento foi mininal.

Estou assumindo que você está escrevendo sobre a Segunda Guerra Mundial ... o que eu estou supondo que você é porque você faz referência a 23 milhões de mortes soviéticas ...

Os Estados Unidos declararam um estado de guerra contra a Alemanha, em 11 de dezembro de 1941. Esta foi uma retaliação à declaração de Hitler de guerra contra os Estados Unidos fizeram algumas horas antes. Os EUA declararam estado de guerra contra o Império do Japão em 8 de dezembro de 1941, após o ataque por forças navais japonesas contra os EUA em Pearl Harbor.

No entanto, em maio de 1941, uma boa sete meses antes da ESTADOS UNIDOS estava diretamente envolvido na Segunda Guerra Mundial, Hitler quebrou o tratado de paz Alemão Russo e atacaram as forças russas na Polônia, dirigindo profundamente Rússia até dezembro de 1941.

Agora apenas como diabos nós fizemos "fugir" os nossos amigos russos, aqueles aliado da Alemanha, até que os alemães decidiram invadir-los?

AO CONTRÁRIO Enviamos-lhes armas após a invasão Hitler. Nós inundada-los com aviões e tanques. Demos-lhes apoio, tanto quanto poderíamos, antes de entrar na guerra, sete meses depois, já que não queria que os russos a falhar. Se a Rússia tinha sucumbido ao ataque nazista, o mundo seria um lugar muito diferente.

Lamento que os britânicos e os franceses tem umas porradas e que eles se retiraram após a derrota em Dunquerke. Mas a Rússia, na época, era aliado de Hitler.

Ninguém fugiu e deixou os russos para morrer.

Os russos erro fatal estava fazendo a aliança com Hitler, em primeiro lugar. Isso acabou por custar 23 milhões de vidas.

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 18:51 | 5499909 Ass Burger
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" founding principles of the country"

 

Don't worry, I'm sure slavery and aristocracy will survive. 

Fri, 11/28/2014 - 23:09 | 5498257 VWAndy
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There are several ways to bring down an empire. A tax revolt,pfft. Not a chance. Ask the CIA they have a list of ways to do it.  

Fri, 11/28/2014 - 23:14 | 5498265 disabledvet
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What stands out to me relative to Ukraine is how large a physical space it is. Not nearly as big as Russia...but certainly vast.

Since the speed of light is both an absolute and as far as we know a constant...

Fri, 11/28/2014 - 23:48 | 5498343 Uchtdorf
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Forget about rebuilding America. She's done for. We might be able to save parts of our heritage through divine help, but within 2-3 years we'll have UN/Chinese/Russian troops all over the fruited plain.

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 11:37 | 5498918 grekko
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Well, I hope that the Ruskiis and Chi-coms are better at running civilization than the a-holes we presently have.  On the other hand, the Chicoms are loaded with corruption and book-cooking.  We'll have to do something about them.  As for the Ruskiis, I think that they just want to do a little business, in which case, welcome to Bartertown.

Fri, 11/28/2014 - 23:57 | 5498357 red1chief
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Not gonna work, too many flaws to mention. Why does everyone need to pretend an end to the empire is viable any time soon? The reality is it will take several generations of economic and social decay to have an effect.

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 00:02 | 5498364 q99x2
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Who are our enemies? 

Number 0: the elite banking families.

Number 1: Loyd Blankfein

Number 2: Jamie Dimon

Number 3 - a couple a hundred politicians that the bankers bribe and blackmail.

Number 4: - the mercenaries that they pay to do their dirty work.

If the US was not a nation-state and had its own military something might be able to be done. As it is the captured populations are about to go up in flames along with the NWO. There is a slight chance that the singularity will be reached beforehand but we'll have to wait and see.

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 00:01 | 5498365 flyonmywall
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I give it two years, maybe 3 at the outside.

Time enough for Obama to fuck things up royally, so that people will elect the other party, thinking (I'm being generous here), that the candidate from the other party will be different.

Then it will take a little bit of time for them to realize that the candidate from the other party is the same bought-and-paid-for piece of crap that they just voted against.

By then the Russians will be able and willing to just say "fuck it", we'll take our chances with the big red button and a gold currency.

Chuck Hagel didn't resign for nothing. He probably got fed up with the bullshit and the total cluelessness and said "fuck it", I'm out of here.

Word to the wise. Stock up, and get 8 inches of concrete over your head, and an air purifying system. You need to be independend for 90 days (10 half lives of iodine-131 plus a bunch of other crap).

Peace (don't count on it).

 

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 00:47 | 5498434 amadeus39
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Why do you advise others about survival techniques? Why do you want others to survive?

 

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 03:41 | 5498591 Overfed
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I appreciate such advice as I am rather addicted to sucking air.

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 12:41 | 5499080 Tall Tom
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There are some whom want to survive. Others may not.

 

Why are you so critical about his desire?

 

Am I to understand that you want no survivors? Do you hate people that much?

 

There are other alternatives for you...

 

For instance you can change your attitude.

Sun, 11/30/2014 - 12:30 | 5501551 SofaPapa
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"I give it two years, maybe 3 at the outside."

I've been hearing variations on this timescale for the past seven years.  I have made some similar predictions myself.  Having been on ZH for as long as I have, I am now much more resigned to a long, drawn-out collapse than able to predict any "moment" in which it will happen.  Steady, calm, continuous action to protect and prepare ourselves and our families/friends as we move into the morass is the best we can do on this continuing ride.

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 00:04 | 5498367 livefreediefree
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Thank God. More specifically, thank you Tyler. It's been so long since you posted such a shitty, fucked article. You may not be aware, Tyler, that I came here, and have stayed here, solely because you fairly frequently post shitty, fucked articles such as this one. When you do, it renews my lack of faith in the human animal, and replaces whatever transient hope I may be experiencing with the realization that actual human beings are capable of writing such shitty, fucked articles.

Confucius say, "Man who loses faith in everything can still recognize shitty, fucked articles".

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 00:45 | 5498429 amadeus39
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Luckily, there is Zerohedge to electronically absorb and dissipate all pent up anger and frustration so that we can continue to do nothing that changes the situation. Full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.

 

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 03:34 | 5498586 livefreediefree
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ZH is also a good place for puncturing balloons, egos, and, like this article, giant distended bags of complete shit.

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 05:01 | 5498634 Bach's_bitch
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Aww look...someone having a wittle twoll tantwum. Don't worry little one, we all think you're really witty.

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 15:01 | 5499357 livefreediefree
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we all think you're really witty.

Oh, you do! You do! Oh, you don't know how much that means to me!

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 12:34 | 5499054 Tall Tom
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Your very first mistake was placing your faith in other humans in the first place.

 

So your expectations have been disappointed? Awwwwwwwww... Pobre cito.

 

LMAO at you. At least you do add some value as you provide some comic relief. In that way you are appreciated.

 

You support your statism where there is no freedom. You place your faith in failure and failed institutions. You deserve exactly what you will reap from the sowing of your own seed of destruction.

 

Personally I have ABSOLUTELY NO FAITH OR CONFIDENCE IN THE GOVERNMENT, THE PEOPLE WHOM OCCUPY THE GOVERNMENT, AND THE CURRENCY OF THE GOVERNMENT.

 

And my expectations for the failure of the previously cited will not be spoiled.

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 15:10 | 5499378 livefreediefree
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Tall Tom, Tall Tom, you have an out. While lucid writing requires clear, critical thinking, non-lucid writing does not necessarily imply an inability to be able to think clearly or critically.

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 04:58 | 5498631 bid the soldier...
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You could commit suicide  

Then you could play the harp in heaven. We'd all miss you and be sad for a while. 

But you probably love to wallow in shit whether it's shitty, fucked articles or the genuine warm, stinky stuff. 

 

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 13:11 | 5499165 tarabel
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To you, playing the harp in heaven means joining the Moscow Radio Symphony Orchestra. I'm sure he has his sights set a little higher than that.

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 15:29 | 5499416 bid the soldier...
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Owooooo.  

Knocking Russian musicianship.

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 15:06 | 5499367 livefreediefree
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You could commit suicide

What? And never read commenters like those on this article again?

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 00:30 | 5498410 nah
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when the government re-instates the draft for phase 1 of WWIII that will be the first challenge

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oil is getting cheaper, we will all probably be dead before that happens

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 00:31 | 5498411 the grateful un...
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my only thought is what it must have felt like to be part of the German blitzkreig. in 1939 the German military took whatever they wanted, with almost no resistance. in some areas just the prescence of Gestapo (who were there to arrest the terrorists in Czechoslovokia) was enough to pacify the invaded nation. wasn't the German NWO offering something? the global depression had blighted the entire planet. join us, do you suppose the German liberators were entirely hated? Vichy supporters in France were there to meet them. the rise and fall of the 4th European empire, Germany, was simultaneous, and the 5th European empire, the US, took control as a global superpower after the biggest double cross in history. but then Europe is one large internecine war. which all began in Rome. oiu vey. the end of this empire, not by a long shot, there is a lot more decay corruption and ruin to visit, you aint seen nothing yet, the emperor Obama is bad, but not Caligula. it will extend beyond our lifetimes, so quite worrying, you have no real choice in the matter. find some mountain top where you can live alone, without technology (sure), or get yourself a nice government job, some slaves, and the royal orgy a couple times a week.  

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 04:45 | 5498626 August
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>>>just the prescence of Gestapo ... was enough to pacify the invaded nation. wasn't the German NWO offering something?

Indeed.  Many Americans bought the fantasy that Germany met great resistance in Occupied Europe, and some Europeans are still happy to sell this myth, as it permits them a bit more national self-respect.  While there were heroic agents of resistance throughout Europe, the vast majority of Europeans were perfectly content to go about their daily activities as best they could, and the chattering classes were perfectly happy to explain the many virtues of the New Europe to their intellectual inferiors.

Since the USA will not be subect to a "foreign" occupation, I personally expect 97% docile acceptance, once representative government is officially suspended. Marco Rubio will be tough, but fair, so where's the problem?

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 11:24 | 5498888 Boubou
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For ordinary people, it doesn't make much difference whose boot is on their neck. That is why some decided that it was better to be alive and with a livable country, than dead and in a disaster zone.

The displaced regime, however, loses everything.

That is why you must fight to the death-  to preserve the privileges of the elite.

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 00:54 | 5498442 Karaio
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When I left the Army in 1981 was arranging the papers to work on cargo ship in the Port of Santos-SP - Brazil.

My dream was to see the world.

The thing did not work out and turned Professor of Geography but that's another story.

In the interviews I had with people onboard, a lieutenant engineer of Polish machines told interesting things when I asked him about cultures, people in other countries.

Nicola said out loud:

Never, NEVER touch with Russian and New Zealand, they are crazy!

The guy continued the explanation:

French are weak, the only thing it provides are women and the guys in the French Legion, the English are sons of bitches, most fagot, the Germans are very narrow-minded, if not a boss they die without initiative, better to have an Italian on his side than an Italian, Italian women are more reliable.

The guy kept talking horrors of Poland, said the only good thing that the Poles did during World War II was serving coal in Aushivitz of concentration camps and others that he mentioned.

I asked him about the Americans, he stopped for a few minutes until you get another beer and said:

- Look, these guys have a lot of people are disciplined, has an insane logistics but are racist, it fucks with everything.

We stayed for a whole night getting drunk beer and vodka Stolishnaya a whorehouse in Santos on the edge of the harbor at that time was called "Love Story".

I vaguely remember that Nicola spoke about racism in South Africa, said a few things about Asian and Arab, told some things about the operation of ships, beliefs and fears at sea.

Sailors are superstitious, believe!

In 1981 there was no network in Brazil, I have the address of saved Nicola, never the saw.

He was old at the time, must have died.

It was the memory.

:-)

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 01:06 | 5498452 q99x2
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State Duma speaker Sergey Naryshkin suggested that NATO members should expel the United States from the bloc, asserting such a move should return the security situation in Europe to normal levels

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 13:09 | 5499156 tarabel
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Well, yeah, that sounds like a real good idea to me-- if I'm a stooge of the Russian fascist dictatorship.

We want you kick huge mean big brother out of organization so we can steal your lunch money.

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 01:20 | 5498480 AgeOfJefferson
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The future is already written.

Demise of the West: The Dystopian Prophecies

http://www.peakprosperity.com/forum/89110/demise-west-dystopian-propheci...

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 01:28 | 5498491 Karaio
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The problem in Europe and the US is;

UNEMPLOYMENT.

A lot of idle people, lack of work.

From ancient Rome through the first and second world war, a percentage above 20 and you have a war in Europe.

Have already passed the historical level.

Now is wait a few months until the next black goose.

No racist connotations, Obola is not black, it is mulatto.

hehe.

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 01:29 | 5498494 zerohedgejjxxzz12
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After I read the article I wondered who wrote it, I was surprised to find that it was Dmitry.

 I watched his video on a collapsing Amerka years ago, once again whoever I tell his story to they say " no way that will never happen".

 

 

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 01:34 | 5498500 lasvegaspersona
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It looks to me like things are falling apart.

We have the dollar rising (deflation) while it is obviously overprinted (hyperinflation). We have a stock market that cannot be allowed to drop 1%. Oil, the main ingredient of everything is priced too low to produce. To top it off fiat currencies need growth of which there is none. Oh, gold is getting scarce while the price falls.

Maybe it has just been a weird couple of weeks but it looks to me like the center is not holding.

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 03:12 | 5498571 viedoklis_lv
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2009 - ZH: USD going to crash, Putin regime & ruble strong

2010 - ZH: USD going to crash, Putin regime & ruble strong

2011 - ZH: USD going to crash, Putin regime & ruble strong

2012 - ZH: USD going to crash, Putin regime & ruble strong

2013 - ZH: USD going to crash, Putin regime & ruble strong

2014 - ZH: Ruble is little bit crashing as never before but anyway soon USD going to crash

 

Ruble Crashes Past Historic 50 to U.S. Dollar as OPEC Lets Oil Price Fall

http://www.themoscowtimes.com/business/article/ruble-sinks-to-record-low...

 

Check: https://twitter.com/StopPutinRegime

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 03:46 | 5498596 livefreediefree
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Poor Russkies. Maybe this will brighten them up.

What's the difference between a hippopotamus and a Russian mother-in-law? Less than 50 pounds.

Q: What is the exchange rate between a ruble, a dollar, and a pound?
A: One pound of rubles equals one dollar.

Waiter! I don't want to eat this Russian junk. ring me the cook.
Don't waste your time, Sir. He won't eat it either.

Someone asks a guide in hell: “Why does Hitler stand up to his neck in shit, while Stalin is only up to his waist?” He answers, “Because Stalin is standing on Lenin's shoulders.”

What was the nationality of Adam & Eve?
Russian of course. Why else would they think they're in Paradise when they were homeless, naked, & just had one apple for both of them?

Brezhnev rebukes his speechwriter: "I asked you for a 15 min speech, but you made it 1 hour." "No, sir, it was written exactly for 15 min - you just read all four copies".

A Russian army private is walking along the street, wearing different colored shoes - one black & the other brown. A major stops him & says: "private! Go back to the barracks & change your shoes." "It would do no good, major", says private, "the ones I've got in barracks are just the same."

Why does a Russian carry a piece of shit in his wallet? For identification

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 09:24 | 5498775 Graph
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Jokes related to old CCCP are not even funny today.

Also:

1. Mother-in-law joke - Wallmart people.

2. Pound of rubbles... - demise of dollar.

3. Junk food - Junk food (Mc...)

4. Presidents from hell - Presidents from hell

5. Adam and Eve - EBT card holders not far away.

6. Brezhnev - George Shrub

7. Army private joke- Counterpart N/A (at the price though, $700-800 bil a year, low estimate)

8. Wallet joke - huh ?

 

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 15:21 | 5499399 livefreediefree
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Jokes related to old CCCP are not even funny today.

Maybe not, but let's hope the genius Russians have for black humor hasn't gone the way of the CCCP.

A Soviet newspaper reports: "Last night the Chernobyl Nuclear Powerstation fulfilled the Five Year Plan of heat energy generation in 4 microseconds."

"Is it true, that you may eat meat from Chernobyl?" - "Yes, you may. But your feces would need to be buried in concrete 5 ft deep in the earth."

Cultural self-deprecation indicates strength of character.

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 05:08 | 5498640 bid the soldier...
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Latvi guy.

What all Latvian say in Riga?

Good potato harder find than good wife

what got you? potato or wife?  

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 13:05 | 5499148 tarabel
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I wonder how many Western girls are advertising online for Russian husbands. 

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 15:23 | 5499403 bid the soldier...
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Also wonder many Latvian girl have potato?

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 05:11 | 5498644 Bach's_bitch
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I'm pretty sure you could come up with a similar chronology of people in the early 20th century who said WWI and WWII were coming.

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 06:56 | 5498689 smacker
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Based upon freely available facts it looks very much like the centre of economic power is moving eastwards towards China et al. BRICS are in there too which includes Russia.

That will reduce the influence that the USD has in the global economy and there are already plenty of examples of currency swaps being agreed between countries.

The question that nobody knows the answer to is "when" the USD will finally cease to be the global reserve currency. When the tipping point will be. Some people think it will happen very suddenly, others that it will be a slow, progressive process. Others think it'll be a combination of these two extremes with a slow process to start, followed by sudden death etc.

The Ruble troubles right now are a direct result of the Washington-centric sanctions against Russia for fallacious reasons cooked up behind closed doors and the Washington conspiracy with Saudi to push down the price of oil.

None of this could have been predicted by ZH or its authors. Get a life dear fellow and be assured that the global model of economics is changing.

A more relevant question is whether these changes can happen without WWIII.

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 11:22 | 5498885 grekko
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I'm sure that the neocon idiots will start WW3 before their financial power runs out. 

 

"do you hear that Mr. Anderson?  That is the sound of inevitability."

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 12:57 | 5499124 tarabel
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Oh, bad Okhrana. You're not supposed to admit that Russia is being hurt by Obama. I suggest you turn yourself in to your supervisor immediately.

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 13:32 | 5499209 smacker
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In your misguided opinion, exactly who is my "supervisor"?

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 20:47 | 5500144 petkovplamen
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I knew about the "center of ecoomic power" and how it always moves and how it has been circling the Earth for the last 2000 years moving in the direction of west/Western direction when I was 10 years old and reading my history books I was able to figure that by myself. It's so simple it's eye pocking. All you have to do is draw all the continents and map the years and the places and the pattern will jump out at you. Of coruse China is the next economic power, it's inevitable. Guess who is the next economic center of powerr. I will give you a clue: starts with an "r". No wonder USA is desperate to start WWIII to stop the center of economic power.

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 20:47 | 5500125 petkovplamen
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Maybe you viedoklis_lv need to visit the USA and talk to soem ordinary Americans to learn a few facts. The USD is crashing, badly. Do you know how high the inflation in USA is? The inflation is at least 12%, maybe more due to the crashing dollar. Food prices are going through the roof. Rent prices are so high most people are rooming to be able to pay rent. people cannot afford medical care.The dollar has lost over 90% of its value. People are floking to the 99 cents stores to buy food. One gallon of milk is more expensive than a gallon of gas. Thats USA for you. 

But you keep on living in your hatred toward Russia. I'm sure it will keep you happy.

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 03:36 | 5498585 viedoklis_lv
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Eurasian Economic Union http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurasian_Economic_Union will be dead before it's even born.

Putin regime bans meat import from Lukasenko regime (Belarus) -  so called trade allies in this union that is dying already.

Lukasenko mad at Putin regime, say will revange:

http://en.itar-tass.com/economy/763974

Also kazakhstan stops selling electricity to Putin regime because of collapsing ruble value.

http://kazakh-tv.kz/en/view/news_kazakhstan/page_84281_kazakhstan-stops-...

http://youtu.be/4HUAleB7rbg

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 04:42 | 5498624 bid the soldier...
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Latvi Man

I have moar latvi joke for jew.

Two Latvian look at clouds.

One see potato. Other see impossible dream.

Is same cloud.

 

 

One day, hear knock on door.

Man ask "Who is?"

"Is potato man, I come around to give free potato"

Man is very excite and opens door.

Is not potato man, is secret police.

 

Hoho no?

I find you moar later

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 12:55 | 5499121 tarabel
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Here's one for you, clumsy Okhrana dude.

How many Russians does it take to screw in a light bulb?

What is light bulb?

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 13:09 | 5499160 bid the soldier...
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Is good.  I laughing.

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 15:31 | 5499422 TheFourthStooge-ing
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.

How many Russians does it take to screw in a light bulb?

None. Everyone know such job is for pollacks.

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 15:53 | 5499485 TheFourthStooge-ing
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You must enjoy spending time with yourself.

Laughing is good.

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 16:44 | 5499609 TeethVillage88s
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This is funny too. Mickey Rourke Fight in Russia... looks like he uses street techniques on other American. Below the belt, punch to butt, punch to leg...

Doesn't look like honest fighting, other guy has no "Fight" in him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyfGGxFXRCk
http://rt.com/news/209223-mickey-rourke-boxing-moscow/
http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/mickey-rourke-shows-dramatic-...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2853452/Mickey-Rourke-s-kin...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/ap/article-2853450/Mickey-Rourke-wins-e...

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 06:41 | 5498687 smacker
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ha-ha. I see you're back with a new sack of propaganda.

Since the Eurasian Union was actually born earlier this year, it can hardly die before it's born. Did your propaganda paymaster forget to tell you that?

tch tch.

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 12:53 | 5499114 tarabel
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Sure it can die before its born. Ever heard of an abortion? The term seems to fit quite well.

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 13:36 | 5499213 smacker
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So, after it's been born you're saying it can still die before it's born?

How does that work?

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 15:28 | 5499417 viedoklis_lv
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Propoganda you say? Can you prove that any of those facts I have pointed out giving references - is not true? Has not Putin regime baned Belarus meat import? Has not Kazakhstan stopped supplying electicity for Putin regime? And isn't those countries in this pathetic allience that is already showing how actualy allied they are? :)

Yes, that's what I thought.

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 15:37 | 5499441 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Fantasy thriving into fantasy. You might be on something, send a script to Hollywood.

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 16:15 | 5499531 smacker
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Yes I can but Google is your friend, friend.

The piece of your propaganda I picked up on was your assertion that the Eurasian Union would die before it was born. As I pointed out, it was actually born earlier this year.

You need to tell your paymaster that he'll have to find better quality garbage 'cos this stuff is getting you into deep doo-doo and making you look like a Latvian troll.

Oh.....wait .......did  I say Latvian troll?...................

Have a nice evening :-)

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 16:38 | 5499591 forputin
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:)

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 16:39 | 5499593 forputin
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:)

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 10:08 | 5498807 cossack55
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Interesting transmogrified (truncated?) swastika for your avatar.

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 12:53 | 5499106 tarabel
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Ah, I see the weekend Okhrana shift is back on the job. I do wish you guys would read the memos, however. Last weekend's Okhrana team used the same swastika line against this guy. Yo0u really should come up with a newcampaign. 

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 15:19 | 5499388 viedoklis_lv
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Not all symbols with sharp lines are swastika and even swastika is more ancient symbol than hitler started to use it.  Use google transator:

http://guman.1s.lv/121-latvijas-rakstu-zimju-nozime/

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 07:51 | 5498706 Fire Angel
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I'm extremely happy that Club Orlov is featured on the pages of ZH. Apart from Stockman, Dmitry is a very clear-headed thinker. This article is outstanding and prescient.

Here's a link to the Collapse Gap lecture he mentioned above: 

http://www.resilience.org/stories/2006-12-04/closing-collapse-gap-ussr-w...

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 10:22 | 5498820 SmallerGovNow2
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It was outstanding EXCEPT for this...

"They thought that the welfare system is bankrupting the country. This is a laughable claim, because welfare spending looks negligible when compared to military spending."

Which is complete and utter horseshit.  800B SS, 800B MC, 80B food stamps or about $1.7T total per year and that is not covering all welfare programs.  The military budget is 800B and too big, could be less than half than, although it is one of the constitutionally legitimate responsibilities of the federal gov.

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 11:11 | 5498864 Tall Tom
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There is NO AUTHORITY for a standing Army written within the US Constitution.

 

That is an outright lie. (It did provide for a Navy.  I will grant you that.)

 

But there is absolutely no authority for a standing army as the Founding Fathers believed that to be a grave threat to Freedom and Liberty.

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 08:43 | 5498746 EemieMeanieMinieMoe
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Endeavor to persevere...... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsL6mKxtOlQ

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 11:16 | 5498870 grekko
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...and then we declared war on the Union.

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 09:56 | 5498796 gswifty
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Excellent dot-connecting! 

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 11:11 | 5498813 fiftybagger
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Orlov: "because welfare spending looks negligible when compared to military spending"

 

Not defending the bloated MIC, but he is wrong here:

MIC:23%

Welfare:11%

Pensions:26%

Health Care:26%

So transfer payments are likely over 50% of the budget:

http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/federal_budget_actual

 

FYI, the hippies were quickly co-opted by the MIC if not birthed by them:

http://www.davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr93.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ag_Noz4WfdM

 

The argument for any empire's MIC is trade and security, both of which are collapsing now.  So wherefore this MIC?

 

Orlov: "After the National-Socialist episode in Germany, many good Germans voiced regrets at not speaking up, claiming that they didn’t know what was being done in their name."

And this was followed by the Nuremberg "show" trials where a few nazis heads were put on spikes while the rest went to NA and SA via the Vatican's project paperclip.  NA+SA = NASA.  Hmmmm.  Which brings us to the real question to be answered as the music keeps playing and more chairs are taken away: which bankster heads get put on spikes, and which get to fake their own deaths and/or go into hiding?

Silver For The People

Sat, 11/29/2014 - 10:27 | 5498823 Solio
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Bubbleism followed by Collapsism with any wealth generated siphoned-off by the banksters with the help of the fine folks in congress. What staging!

Whose dream is this now?

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