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Despite 2 Months Of 'Coalition' Airstrikes, ISIS "Is Not Weaker"
Despite all efforts by the US-led coalition, the Islamic state is still going strong. That is the awkward message US propagandists face from no lessor boots on the ground witness than Syrian Foreign Minister Walid al-Moualem. "All the indications say that (Islamic State) today, after two months of coalition air strikes, is not weaker," Walid al-Moualem emphasized, contrasting the US 'coalition' military efforts with a Russian call for restarting the political process between Damascus and 'the constructive Syrian opposition'. Now that certainly is not a message the west wants the world to hear...
Although the US-led coalition has conducted about 300 air strikes in Syria since September, it has evidently failed to weaken the Islamic State, stated Syrian Foreign Minister Walid al-Moualem.
"All the indications say that (Islamic State) today, after two months of coalition air strikes, is not weaker," Walid al-Moualem emphasized in an interview with the Beirut-based Al Mayadeen TV broadcast, as quoted by Reuters.
The Syrian Foreign Minister stressed that the terrorists will not be totally destroyed unless Turkey maintained close control over its borders with Syria.
"If the Security Council and Washington do not force Turkey to control its borders then all of this action will not eliminate (Islamic State)," Moualem said, pointing to the fact that foreign jihadists are entering the country across the Syrian-Turkish border, which stretches over 560 miles. Turkey, however, "has strongly denied accusations it has supported militant Islamists, inadvertently or otherwise, in its enthusiasm to help Syrian rebels topple Assad," the Guardian notes.
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In his interview with RT TV channel, Moualem stated that as long as the external interference continues, which is represented by the actions of the international coalition and in the flow of terrorists crossing Syrian borders, it would not be possible to establish an internal dialogue between the conflicting sides in Syria.
The minister added that the major problem for Syria now is the conspiracy of the neighboring countries against it, including Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Jordan and others. He stated that external and regional interference in Syrian affairs hindered the de-escalation of the crisis.
Syrian minister explained that this is the reason why Syria’s Russian friends think that internal dialogue in Syria would be more useful than the dialogue held in Geneva before.
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More proxy wars... and more sanctions will fix this!
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The pot calling the kettle black - the Nobel Prize Winner has bombed seven Muslim countries:
Washington denounces Syrian air strikes on ISIS
By Peter Symonds28 November 2014
The US has seized on Syrian air force strikes on the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) stronghold of Raqqa to denounce Syrian President Bashar al-Assad and push for his government’s removal. For the past three years, the Obama administration has backed anti-Assad militias in Syria. The main aim of its new Middle Eastern war remains regime-change in Damascus.
US State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki on Wednesday said the US was “horrified” by reports that Syrian air strikes the previous day killed scores of civilians. She condemned the Syrian regime’s “continued slaughter of Syria civilians” and “callous disregard for human life,” declaring that “Assad long ago lost all legitimacy to govern.”
According to the British-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, at least 95 people were killed in the air strikes on Tuesday, including 52 civilians. A Raqqa activist with the Syrian opposition network—the Local Co-ordination Committees—told the BBC that further deaths were likely because only one hospital was operating normally in the city and “a lot of people [are] dying from their wounds.” Both organisations are aligned with the pro-Western opposition in Syria that is hostile to both Assad and ISIS.
Psaki’s comments are utterly cynical from every standpoint. The Pentagon routinely dismisses evidence of civilian casualties from air strikes by US and allied war planes in Syria and Iraq, as well as Afghanistan and Pakistan, even in the face of eyewitness statements. It wages its bogus “war on terror” with complete indifference for civilian life.
http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2014/11/28/syri-n28.html
ISIS: The jihadist movement stamped “Made in America”The fact remains, however, that the US, the major European powers, and their regional allies all previously lent financial, military and political support to ISIS and similar groups, which have “Made in the USA” stamped all over them. They have, until now, played a significant part in Washington’s efforts to overthrow the regime of President Bashar al-Assad in Syria, as part of a broader effort to gain control of the region’s vast energy resources and transit routes.
http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2014/07/30/isis-j30.html
Nuland,Clinton,Psaki.Three evil witches stirring the devils brew.
Female psycopaths are supposed to be rare, obviously not inside the beltway.
Female psycopaths are supposed to be rare
1 in 100, or more.
Except in Washington. Nuland,Clinton,Psaki, Powers,Jarret, the ugly old whore from California (Pelosi), etc are plague on the body politic.
(John Wayne voice)
Well, if ya' can't bomb em back into the stone age then just leave 'em there, pilgrim
Note that I did not mention Michelle/Michael/Wookie Obama in my above list of female psychopaths infesting washington since its gender is indeterminate.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvuulZPbfBg
PS don't watch if you have a weak stomach. There are close up shots of Obama's Beard (aka M/M/W)
How about more crazy like a fox.
No doubt, Michelle is a man without question.
Re Winston, if Putin had planted Nuland,Clinton,Psaki. as secret agents in the US, it would be deemed an act of war.
Jarrett has done huge damage to the Republic. These other three mostly fuck up the rest of the world and our position in it, which is of course bad for the Republic too. Valerie on the other hand has been all about the Fundamental Transformation itself.
Bad things come in threes?
http://www.barenakedislam.com/2014/11/16/peter-kassig-another-american-a...
Fuck that ,Im not going out like that!
I will not wrap my wife and daughter in a towel!
I will NOT bow!!
Bring it !
Religion of peace MY ASS!!!
What a cluster fuck we made/financed in that part of the world...
We will ALWAYS be at war with East Asia... I mean terror.
It's amazing that the US can plunder and kill and claim itself a saint.
Islam has been at it for 13 centuries. As Churchill observed it is a powerful retrograde force.
I do not support what the U.S is doing in the world.
But how can anyone support fucking cutting off someones head????
I mean we have truely turned into a nation of Fucking sheep!!!!
http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-Texas/2014/11/29/Student-Robbed-at-Gu...
WTF?
I don't care whose head they cut off as long as it's over there. if wild eyed do-gooders go over there and get their heads offed. Tuff titty. You knew what was possible.
Should the ISIS assholes come to MT...well that's another matter entirely :)
Nice to know that it's how someone dies that offends you, not the fact that they were killed.
Besides, it's probably faked.
Exactly! If anything, beheading is more humane because it is instant death.
And that is precisely how you have been conditioned to think......
So if we don't react emotionally then it means that we are sheep? Sounds kind of backwards to me.
Fanatical jihadis have been chopping off the heads of foreign interlopers as a propaganda technique and provocation/invitation for 100s of years.
It certainly fired up the British who then went on to get humiliated in the first Afgan War. Thousands went to fight and only one made made it out to tell the tale: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Anglo-Afghan_War
You know we support Saudi Arabia, right? by "we" i mean the west, and by "support" i mean have a formal alliance. And you know Saudi Arabia chops off LOTS of heads, right? 19 of them in 2 weeks last August, including some poor sods who were convicted of sorcery (protip: magic isnt actually real)
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/saudi-arabia-execute...
So, good question, who could support dudes who chop peoples heads off? Answer: Saudi Arabia! And since we support them, and they funding ISIS, so we're all on the same side, WE DO!
Get a grip, Pooper. If they want to see heads rolling in the dust, let them. It's their culture and land. Personally, there are a few I'd like to see guillotined here.
Look at what we do, right here in the US: Waco, and Ruby Ridge come to mind. Burning all those people to death and machinegunning the ones who try to escape? This in the Land of the Free? What happens here is as bad as anything done in any land.
My point is, that the USG is moar evil than any government that has ever been, and your outrage is misplaced.
The POTUS calling the kettle black is more like it...
"... the Nobel Prize Winner has bombed seven Muslim countries:"
WRONG.
The Obomba has bombed seven Middle Eastern countries with secular governments, that happen to have predominantly Muslim populations.
Since we started doing business with the Saudis back in the early 70s, destroying secular governments (either actively, or passively a la Iran in 1979) and replacing them with Muslim extremists has been the cornerstone of US middle eastern policy.
Its so fucking obvious, and yet goes so unnoticed, that I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.
Buck - excellent point.
I dont think the us is particularly supportive of secular groups.
Its more that they are supportive of any group that will agree to the us priorities.
We keep getting played by these dirtbags we are the ignorant dirtbags.
Its what happens when you allow a bureauracracy fight a war a gestalt of incompetence._
The evidence does not support your assertion. I pretty sure exactly none of these Muslim extremist regimes support US priorities.
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But they do support Obama's personal interests, if you buy the Dinesh D'Souza read of Obama's underlying drive, which is based in anti-colonialist fervor against the U.S. and the west in general. Whatever undermines the USA and builds up authentic native regimes around the world is good. Obama views Arab nationalism and Islamic government as authentic expressions of those people in those places. US friendly or secular regimes along western lines not at all.
The Oded Yinon plan is a helluva drug - for Likudnik Zionists....
They need to be stopped.
Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Bakr_al-Baghdadi
That guy was released from the USA from prison to create ISIS. Spent dozens of millions if not more for it, you can guess who might put capital into this. If you google for pictures of Mccain in Syria, you will find his face on some of them.
Here is an important video with Nabeel Naim, one of the main guys from Alqaida group, who confirms that ISIS is a kid of USA and Israel.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEuJ5v3AbJg
Despite all efforts by the US-led coalition, the Islamic state is still going strong. Wrong!
Batman: Then why do you want to kill me?
The Joker: [giggling] I don't, I don't want to kill you! What would I do without you? Go back to ripping off mob dealers? No, no, NO! No. You... you... complete me.
The purpose of the airstrikes is to overthrow Assad. Only the name of the game has changed, not the plan.
the purpose is to continue the wars. it is the only purpose that ever was.
Unless someone is willing to go in there in force and carry out a war of extermination, ISIS will survive. Air strikes are support the real war is on the ground. A point deliberately lost on CNN and MSNBC.
Excluding Hiroshima and Nagasaki that is...
Oh... and Dresden... let's not forget Dresden.
As for ground action...
Perhaps we should just build a giant wooden camel with a 100Mt nuke in it and roll it up to the gates of wherever this Abu Bakr character and his friends are hanging out after McCain leaves out and see what happens.
You never know... after all it's worked before...
Hows about trebuchets flinging Ebola corpses over the walls?
but Flounder says we're running out.
Bwa,hahahahahahahahaha...
Yes, you are right, there were no serious ground operations going on when Dresden or Hiroshima were bombed. Silly me. WWII was about city bombing (*sigh*).
If i remember rightly avoiding a ground invasion of Japan was the pretense, oops i mean REASON, for nuking Hiroshima and friends. And lets all please try to ignore the fact that Japan had begun surrender negotiations, albeit through the Russians (dumb move)
Fire-bombing Dresden by the allies didnt really make a lot of sense it terms of supporting the allied ground invasion about 1000 k's away. And didnt really much sense in terms of supporting Stalin's boys since the city was just full of refugees and elderly.
But both were damned effective at terrifying the enemy. who says terrorism doesnt win wars.
Before McCain leaves would work better....
Iraq in ruins, Libya with two governments, the US begging Iran for help, most of the Middle East in flames, Israel frustrated by their puppet....,
and the price of oil in free fall.
Go figure.
At least I can blame acid flashbacks, whats your excuse ?
My greatest fear, Winston, is that we're all living in Ground Hog Day.
They will find just enough band aids, duct tape, elmer's glue and chewing gum to keep this bitch wheezing along...,
foreveh!
As to the dropping oil price, Obama didn't want that result. That came from fracking on private land by private companies inside the USA. And from collapsed demand due to weak economies domestically and around the world. I would venture Obama did want that. More crisis means more opportunity to roll back rule of law. Higher energy prices was one way to get there, and fracking has slowed him down.
Empire is dying. Long Live Amerikan Pussies
Incredible how the greatest military machine on the planet, who can fly missles and bombs through windows from miles away can't even put a dent in isis..
Why, it's almost like we're missing on purpose.
Or something.
Bingo
Its kinda difficult for the west to make a dent in ISIS when they are arming them and training them at the same time...The west created ISIS as a new and improved alCIAda. I dont think too many realize just how evil, psychopathic, murdering, pedophiles these people are that control the west. They armed and trained ISIS to disrupt Syria which was the target all along. Iraq was not being the puppet the west expected so they bombed them too, pretending they were bombing ISIS..The west is not bomding ISIS, the west is bombing Syria to take out Assad. The same reason for all wars, because they want the gold, natural resources and have a central bank in place so they can control the world throu monetary robbery and slavery...Wake up people!
Probably nothing we can do about it, but at least be informed so that you dont fall for it.
/sarc
p.s. to my last comment. It also keeps the military industrial complex and their contractors well paid via the U.S. taxpayer....Scare the people and they will pay more taxes...boooo!! ISIS is gonna get ya!!!! They are hiding under your bed!! We need to put cameras in your house!! We are here to protect you!!!
WB7 uses that U shaped gun barrel. It is so tragic/comic,
and it nails me every time.
And some people from the Western countries try and join them! Like their governments won't know who they are.
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Also worth adding to this very nice summary: the natural gas in Qatar/UAE that someone wants to pipeline up to Europe through Syria. We also can't forget about Israel and their quiet support/training/logistics of the mess.
Tax dollars hard at work....
According to the British-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, at least 95 people were killed in the air strikes on Tuesday, including 52 civilians.
This so called organization appears to be one elderly former Syria who works out of his home using the internet to track Assad's crimes. He is also known to be paid by MI6 and teh CIA. Thus he delievers what he is told. Photos showing dead children were easily proved false by the slighest attention to detail, he released these phtotos on the internet supposedly showing dozens of dead children, though in the photo no damage at all to the kids was apparent, not even a hair out of place.
Oh ye of little faith...
and much experience;)
of course, it is all fake
everyone knows how kind islamic jihadists are
isis is ready to help their struggling brothers in Fergusen
shoot, they will probably help your kid with their school work
the jews and cia are the one behind this
kgb had nothing to do with it according to RT
not saying cia is innocent
they are taking advantage of the hate just like kgb
surely their is a plan b
on a serious note.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/turkey/11262748/Kobane-...
http://www.japantoday.com/category/world/view/islamic-state-group-attack...
the two articles above are from msm stating that islamic fighters(is) are coming in from turkey.wtf
if the us is serious about this fight.they closely have to have a look who their friends are.
A war fought in secrecy is ruinous. For “them” and for “us”. There is no longer a light to shine on any of this. Lies are told when the story does surface, and people are full of hate because they can’t just live a life without having the shit blown out of them. I don’t know if I can identify evil anymore except to know that if they call themselves the “government”, it is they.
Shale drillers are happy with this news.
They're currently praying ISIS can get into Saudi Arabia and go hogwild.
The House of Saud is living on borrowed time anyway.
Might as well speed up the process.
If anyone thinks isis is suppose to be impaired because of military intervention they should really do a reality check.
Impairment is obviously a political position, not a military strategy.
Time to drop the bacon flavored Korans on em.
That'll make em happy.
Let's start with Ataturk or the Kemalist Movement that led Tukey out of backwardation and into the modern world, never looking back again[?]. Ataturk died unexpectantly at 57 years old, Nov/1938 just before WWII got into full gear. His claim to fame and glory was the 'Gallipoi Campaign' in which he beat the British Navy and Marines. He started out as a 'Young Turk', but quickly disengaged from the movement because of their radical Islam beliefs. Eventually he rid the 'Young Turks Movement' to ancient history-- with no political radical obstacles lto overcome, pursuing a clear path for Turkey's Democracy.
His ambitions were for the Turkish people to realize freedom as that of the Western cultures in which he admired. In a way he was an isolationist and a free spirit, far from an idealist or naivete, but pragmatic and political savvy!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mustafa_Kemal_Atat%C3%BCrk http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Young_Turks http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gallipoli_Campaign
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_Minister_of_Turkey#Timeline
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Presidents_of_Turkey#Timeline
(fyi * wikipedia is a quick reference start *)
Names of concern: Fathullah Gulen is living in the USSA and is destroying the Kemalism Doctrine piece by piece, fighting behind the scenes to undermine Erdogan and create an Islamic State under Sharia Law with a pure Theocracy tearing the country apart. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fethullah_G%C3%BClen
Adnan Menderes was an orthodox Muslim also that believed Turkey was on the wrong path. He was a coy and manipulative operator, and rose to power rather mysteriously? He brought about Turkey's first military coup in 1960 led by the 'National [T`NSC] Security Council' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Security_Council_(Turkey) ([Generals/ Army that basically held the country together following Ataturk's philosophy/ ideology, established/founded in 1960]), to keep the country from civil war or worse. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adnan_Menderes
What follows is a [latent!?!] self-mutilation devious plot called the 'Welfare Party' and its short lived, 'Virtue Party' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtue_Party another [?] brainchild of Necmettin Erbakan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Necmettin_Erbakan and others which brought about Turkey's second coup in 1971. In the USSA it's a wedge issue between religion and state via secularism-nonsecularism and [the freedom of?] a constitution preserving ones rights [***afterall America was founded upon freedom of religion and separation from state-- laugh if you must?]. Eventually the Welfare Party http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welfare_Party was tearing the Turkish state apart which the people were decidedly going back to a Sunni/Islam State because of the immigrants flowing in from Muslim states. The people[?] chose the Sunni Party as opposed to the Alevi traditional party http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alevism that Ataturk favored as did the Army [T`NSC]. This brought about the third coup, Sept/1987 [***note the date Iraq/ Iran war coming to an end] and Turkey was very close to Iran's Ayatollah Khoumeni until it crept into Turkish politic's and foreign policy. (Note: Turkey had been a member of NATO for approx. 40 years so any coup's were a no-no.)
This was the beginning for the Mayor of Constantinople... a Mr. Erdogan who spent four months in jail as a conspirator regarding the total dismantling of the Kemalist movement. The T`NSC sent Erbakan scrambling but he was a relentless antagonist and caused problems that still hold much amibiguity today sending Turkey back into the dark ages where the Pasha seems to be making a bloody comeback. [Note2: Assad is an Alawite?!? and Syria never held any animousity regarding Kemal/ Ataturk, in fact Assad's father hated the [MB] Muslim Brotherhood and faught a long war to rid the country of their ilk, as did Nasser whom thought of them as fanatical religious terrorist.] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_Brotherhood_of_Syria
This is however 'JMO'.... where the 'rubber-hits-the-road' with ISIS taking the Caliphate back into the 21st Century, minus 1500 years of belated history? Having basically been acting like teenage siblings in the anal/anus of the 'Cradle of Civilization', where tyme is frozen.
How much longer can the USSA sponsor an opposing view of democracy before the world throws-up on it ???
again JMO
The goal of airstrikes is not to weaken ISIS. The goal of the airstrikes are too *look like it is weakening ISIS*. Remember, EVERYTHING .GOV says is the opposite of the Truth.
True-airstrikes and total air superioroty sure helped make mincemeat of Iraq and Libya - if we truly wanted to weaken ISIS with airstrikes, we could do so. I suspect our airstrikes are more concerned with destroying Syrian infrastructure than destroying ISIS.
Airstrikes won't do much unless somehow you can gather all the ISIS people into a single building and drop a few bombs killing all of them. US military seems to think that air power alone is a solution to everything to avoid the political fallout domestically short of a invading army. Air power is best at precision bombing of hard assets like telecommunications, actual military vehicles, supplies, and actual enemy you can see out in the open. It works poorly trying to destroy ISIS that can hide among the population. Short of actual genocide, the US can't win, which is politically unpopular, and inhumane. There is no way the US can beat ISIS short of invasion of a large ground force, or complete genocide with cities turned into complete rubble pile by bombers..
US foreign policy has got itself in a pickle with no easy way to achieve it's goals, and more likely won't achieve it's goals. It's pure unadulterated foreign policy foley.
http://www.darkmoon.me/2014/kevin-barrett-isil-israeli-mercenary-army/
So. What's the point?
ISIS might be the same, but defense stocks have kicked ass and we got to test out our new hardware.
Mission accomlished.
ISIS appears out of nowhere, flush with American weapons, the Iraqi army, a far superior conventional force 'melts away' as ISIS engages in abject atrocities sure to invite the scorn of the public as well as invite the "humanitarian" intervention of Western states - and essentially no MSM journalists have any questions about the story coming from the US government?
The Covert Origins of ISISNot long before a rocket or two is fired out of the blue "by Hezbollah" justifying massive bombardment of Lebanon... and once the US is done pretending to be serious about negotiations with Iran regarding Iran's rights to have rights under the NPT, a nice false flag to lie us into a major war effort there, if not necessarily a ground invasion.
Of course, activity in and around Ukraine may heat up quite a bit before too long, too - but it seems that Uncle Scam needs to focus either on Russia and China or remaking the middle east for Ersatz Israel.
This madness seems to have no opposition of any strength at all in the US government - that is truly shocking.
If ISIS is one of the CIA's godchildren and it's starting to look like the boots on the ground action is on it's way back, does that mean Uncle Sam will be fighting himself?
Well we will continue to generate these follies as long as the American public can be hoodwinked by the MIC and the State Dept. and CIA are run by Ivy League frat boys with no employable skills...
what can you expect when assclown OBAMA is micromanaging the strikes.... he is not serious in attacking his muslim brothers.... HE IS ONE OF THEM.... That is why he was so anxious to give foreign and military aid to the Muslim Brotherhood in egypt... and by the ay his brother is a member.. Plus remember he aided and abetted the isis effort by providing them with 650 tons of weapons shipped from Benghazi via eastern europe and turkey to isis... Oh byt heway, isn aid and abetting the enemy during wartime an act of TREASON.,.. OBAMA = BENEDICT ARNOLD = TREASON
"ISIS isn't any weaker"
And they aren't any big deal either. Just more ragheads who don't have anything else to do in the sand.
The Arab uprisings and the present conflict are all tied in to natural resources....same old story through out history even if we just go back to the last century....The Japanese expansion in the Pacific....The Germans looking for better sea ports and dominance....The OLD BRITTISH EMPIRES expansion via their once powerful and migfhty navy....it'll never end....oil so cheap is a real game changer for everyone...BEWARE CHEAP OIL....it's CHEAP for a reason....the global economy is in the shitter....
omfg! are we really that stupid? the usa military can crush any conventiomal army without breaking a sweat but as soon as the enemy starts dressing in pajamas and blankets the usa military is impotent.
Isn't it odd that air strikes worked so well against Muammar Qaddafi but are utterly infective against ISIS? Could it be that the reason is... they are not supposed to be effective?
I expand on the idea in this article...
http://incapp.org/blog/?p=2390
nuland, opec forgien policy achieved.
syria being destroyed, nuland's, and opec's isis unharmed, and ready for next assignment, just as planned.