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It rhymes.
Third time's the charm. World War 3 will be last war of the modern era.
"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones." - Albert Einstein
“We will learn an enormous amount in the very short term, quite a bit in the medium term and absolutely nothing in the long term.” – Michael Rivero
"History is a gallery of pictures in which there are few originals and many copies.” - Tocqueville.
“People can foresee the future only when it coincides with their own wishes, and the most grossly obvious facts can be ignored when they are unwelcome.” - George Orwell
"Prompt global strike." Nukes have been irrelevant for a long time now.
Nice all seeing eye portrait though
Sorry...was that all the lessons we didn't learn from history before or after all the infant conditioning and narco-hypnosis?
http://www.cryptogon.com/?p=27939
BECAUSE IT'S ALWAYS DIFFERENT THIS TIME!
THAT'S WHY!
And just try talking history to even a 40 something these days and you'll get this look like you're a kook saying the world began before Jan 1, 1970 at 00:00 !
They don't want to fucking know what went on before last week cause that's "ancient history" that's all behind us now.
see the primal mechanism
run Spot, run
If nothing happened before Jan 1, 1970 at 00:00 then the world is going to end January 19, 2038 03:14:07 GMT
Typical US militaristic boondoggle. Still haven't won a war since 1945, which in any case was more of a Soviet win, and still strutting around chest puffed up. Having their asses handed to them by tribal farmers in Afghanistan with small arms, and still they think they can come up with a tech panacea. And here we have disablet vet still sucking up the kool aid. How more insane can you get than that?
The question I ask is why have nukes been irrelevant. Here is some food for thought.
Robert Hastings, UFO's and Nukes. A video of his presentation at the National Press Club is embedded.
http://www.ufohastings.com/
Here is an interview by John B Wells with his Caravan to Midnight internet production. I would strongly recommend subscribing to his service for $5/mo. which provides thought provoking material.
This ties in with John B's recent interview with Sean Gautreaux
http://caravantomidnight.com/show-archives/C2M-179-2-Gautreaux_Root-11-25-14.mp3
http://caravantomidnight.com/show-archives/C2M-179-3-Gautreaux_Root-11-25-14.mp3
. . . if species could improve by learning, there'd be no need for evolution.
Humans are still EXACTLY THE SAME as the people who exploited the Fertile Crescent or painted the caves at Lascaux — I doubt that Nebuchadnezzar or Charlemagne or Lincoln would be any better at running the EU or regulating Nuclear Power.
I'm just having a little smile knowing who uses that picture as their avatar and why it's such a perfect fit for his posts.
yea, he is fucking a "great" contributor; wry muthaf'r, ha...
It would seem that every 80 years america has had a major catastrophe.... starting with the american revolution ( about 1780 )... then the civil war ( about 1860 ) then wwii ( about 1940 )... and now... we are here again....
every time worse... everytime much worse.... never fought a war on our own soil.( against another country ).. are you sure it won't happen this time? We fought terrible wars on other soils.... burnt stinking bodies were the only thing my uncle would admit to when asked about WWII.... He just about refused to talk about the war... my father did refuse... and never talked about it to his own son... my uncle only did on his death bed.... does anyone know or realize that 40 year old men were being drafted into WWII?
That's how serious that war was.... care to think about the next one?
What is in store for us next???
WW3 will see biological warfare on American soil. Airborne Ebola perhaps.
I'm a 50yr old man....
My father and uncle had seen more than most could endure..... my uncle was there at the philippines when they took it back afer the japs killed almost 200 thousand of the population before they left the place... ( yes... I called them japs )... sorry if I hurt your feelings ( not yours publicus ).... they're the same ones that had raping contests on the chinese folks or dropped plaigue'd flees on the chinese ( comfort women ).... as they called them.
My uncle was in port once and was on a bench on his ship and heard, "BUMP"... "BUMP".... get got up and looked over the edge and saw a jap torpedo.. bouncing off the ship..... too weak to explode.
what will happen to us now?
Every 80yrs the US burns... either externally or internally or both... how will it be now?
Read the Fourth Turning.
It will help you get your bearings tword.
Good call on the 80 yrs, and a very good story we need to hear, thanks.
Since our gen x will be on the spot influence wise, I am going with a liberty (Revolutionary) turning.
The rest of the choices suck.
It will still be very hard and may involve some moar woar.
Turnings Overview:
http://www.lifecourse.com/about/method/timelines/turnings.html
Archetypes in History by Generational Role:
http://www.lifecourse.com/about/method/generational-archetypes.html
http://fourthturning.com/
The torpedo probaly bounced off because of the angle.Just saying.
Your hatred towards Japs is pathetic.
The problem is the human race, i think that includes both of us dipshit.
ok it,s the japs fault.
It may, Sir..... who knows... our border is not exactly secure at the moment.... the man who followed Frank Marshall Davis as a mentor... the man who had not one but two communist parents and lives ( when he isn't in DC ) down the street from Bill Ayres and went to chuch in Wright's church is our supreme leader.... he has been elected twice.... he's shredded the constitution... and, instead of backing off after the election... he's doubling down...
THIS IS NOT A THREAT ON THE PRESIDENT: I wish somebody would put an umbrealla up his ass and open it..... fuck this communist organizer who's never ran anything... the only thing that scares me more than him is someone that isn't as inept has he has been...
I've heard he like that sort of thing...
haha... got a downvote on this post.... who are you? Please let me speak with you...
Maybe I could convince you when I show you an umbrella!?!?
It wasn't me, but I suspect the downvote might be because you're accusing a hapless halfwit with no real power who simply reads a teleprompter, as if it really matters what gets inserted into which of his orifices. This is exactly the response that the actual PTB want to see.
You're right but, you have to give me a break on that one.... there was beer involved last night and, I was just letting off steam.
my father in law was a colonel.... he had responsibility over a base that was doing bio warfare in the 80s.
He'll tell you how much he hates monkeys.... My wife and her father had had some fallouts...
Here is the deal from a man that was doing the testing... He said this: The British killed entire villages to destroy the virus in the 80s.... commandos with suits just went in and killed the whole village.
Hell, I don't care if you belive me.. I believe Henry... He was a full bird colonel..... and he's about 80 now. He also told my wife that it was airborne... maybe not airborn in the clinical way but, it travels through the air.... person to person... not dallas to washington.
I hope Lynn and her dad work things out because I want to ask him a lot of things.
ask your uncle , dad and father in law about a good shrink.
oh i forgot about "the man"
red arrows , fuck you , you are brain dead.
"The British killed entire villages to destroy the virus in the 80s.... commandos with suits just went in and killed the whole village"
You serious? Got proof? Am not calling you a liar am asking if you could substantiate your claims by pointing me &others to verified documents (e.g. mentions names, places, dates etc) because if what you post is true then it's history re-writing stuff. On an interesting side note there was an article out on the London Guardian of Winston Churchill ordering the hiring of Greek Nazi collaborators after the 2nd WW ended.
dood he is full of shit, not one sentence goes by without a lie.
@Wirling Tword, Google: "Saeculum"
I've read on this some and agree.... life isn't quite linear.... it seems to revolve around 80 year cycles... the theory seems true when you look at our history.
quote:....never fought a war on our own soil
1812, and we lost.
well, I think 1812 was something.... it's true...about a 2 1/2 year war on our own soil.... it's true.... I would also argue it ended the revolutionary war.
regarding my argument before... it's sort of a fart in the tide of american history.... just sort of made a smell but, nobody knew what or who did it so, it doesn't count.
I would consider 1812 a pretty good defeat. Loosing teritory to Canada. Having New York and Boston burnt to the ground. Surendering in Detroit without even fighting.
btw, all Canadians know who won the war of 1812
I don't disagree with you on the points.... and yet Canada didn't invade the southern US... it was almost a wash... and it really only mattered to the ( lots of people ) that it affected then... but, not as much a national referendum... I'm not aruging the merit of your argument but, this doesn't have much to do with my origonal argument, which I still contend is correct.
I don't disagree with you on the points.... and yet Canada didn't invade the southern US... it was almost a wash... and it really only mattered to the ( lots of people ) that it affected then... but, not as much a national referendum... I'm not aruging the merit of your argument but, this doesn't have much to do with my origonal argument, which I still contend is correct.
I never thought I'd say so but, Candada is kicking our ass in almost everthing now.... their money used to be a joke.... not so much now... their freedom used to be a joke.. not as much now... but, you can never be taken seriously unless you relax gun laws.....
I like Canada... and, I wish you guys the best... I just hope your one shot shotguns and bolt action deer rifles will protect you.
( I don't know what your laws are but, I do know that they suck compared to ours )
In Texas, for example... you can use deadly force for anyone on your property at nignt for stealing... vandalizing or being a dick when you don't like it..... others in your stead can also defend your property for you in that respect.
I'm not at all sure that Ferguson protests will work out well in Texas for those that are willing to defend property from looters..... the looters just die and end up being target practice.... there is no grand jury... it's the law here.
If you don't like this... make damned sure and stay out of my yard... it's not safe for you, Bro.
vat ? no rapist in Canada?
Vhy me not surprised you a big fat f stupid Texan.
Please give me your thoughts on 9/11 and give me a good laugh.
all Canadians know who won the war of 1812
Yeah, the English Crown won because Canada didn't exist yet and won't ever really exist until it is an independent Constitutional Republic.
WWII, the Aleutians. Minor battles, but on US soil.
"40 years" is a very significant number in history. Oppressing regimes change to people powers and people friendly rulers are overthrown by dictators.
Already over. We won and the Empire of Evil did not.
If you want to talk about WWIV, then okay, I get you.
But we'll keep the streak going.
Cannot yet realistically speak of Empire of Evil having lost, since it is still in its death throes on the bank of the Potomac River. Best to wait until it stops kicking and screaming.
Bleah, he's just a moron with an attitude problem, about 3 months old on ZH. Your typical sucker (as in unpaid) troll...
Define evil empire:
-- Nearly 60 million abortions.
-- Attack on Christianty, the family and virtue.
-- Run away government spending, and insane monetary policy.
-- The exponential expansion of the nanny and welfare states
-- Criminal behavior of the congress, president his cabinet the DOJ
-- Deprivation without due process of private property by government to the benefit of business
-- The active destruction of other countries duly elected governments through covert force, manipulation, lies and murder.
-- Creating, training , and funding extremist groups in the ME, Africa, and the Ukraine.
The evil empire lost? Hardly sir, I'd say that they are doing just capital.
amen zion is his name
and evil is his game
christian, jew, moslem, all the same god.
last period. of everything. so foolish to think of the coming exchange as "measured" . people, everywhere, simply can't get their heads around this. alas, it is rightfully so.
Every 4th generation just gets to discover the same thing again.
Learning is experiential.
History is hard to properly understand.
It does not profit any vested interest group for the people to understand history.
Quite the contrary.
Yep, that's why there are 4th Turnings.
Plus, you can't learn anything from "history". You know what they teach kids in school now? That 9-11 was perpetrated by Iraqis, and that's why the US invaded Iraq. I'm not even kidding...my son, aged 14 at the time, came home from school one day last year and told me this.
At least now, we have the internet, so we can see different versions of "history" if we care to research. But now I know that it's entirely likely that everything I've learned about history from before I was born is probably a complete fabrication.
For anyone in power its not really in your interest for people to understand how they are being systemically screwed over. In hindsight that seems pretty obvious.
"Sales, both in stores and online, from Thanksgiving through the weekend were estimated to have dropped 11 percent, to $50.9 billion, from $57.4 billion last year, according to preliminary survey results released Sunday by the National Retail Federation. Sales fell despite many stores’ opening earlier than ever on Thanksgiving Day."
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/01/business/thanksgiving-weekend-sales-at...
The experts are "puzzled".. Seems we need some new experts.....
The 'experts' have already been putting lipstick on that pig: sales were down because the economy is STRONG, therefore shoppers weren't desperate enough to get to the sales to save a few measly bucks...
It's not just that we don't learn from history, but even when history is being recorded, it's being skewed in realtime. Today's reportage of trading action over the last two weeks makes for a good example:
"Post Swiss Gold Referendum And Bear Raid, Here Comes The Business Press Manufacturing Reality – Eric Dubin"
http://thenewsdoctors.com/?p=250412
C'mon Kondratieff Winter!
Storm the Bastille!
Propellor Heads with Sirley Bassey, "History Repeating":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzLT6_TQmq8
I believe Global warming has done away with the Kondratieff Winter !!!
Cause people are fucking idiots. Too busy with their artificial life to really look at things in the world. If you point out what's wrong with the world to fix things, they call you a pessimist and go back to their programming.
It's not so much a cycle of history as it is a cycle of human nature....
Armstrong hasn't been to a Walmart in a long time.
What? That the world can't see the bourgeoisie's problems? That some people can't get out of the system? Is the world seeking inefficiency as an answer to elementary problems?
Triumph of hope over experience
Triumph?
Humans have "won" along with rats, cockroaches, starlings, stink bugs and drug-resistant MRSA.
Natural selection only requires the organism reproduce successfully (a very low bar indeed).
People believe what their favorite media tells them to believe.
And there is a slightly different flavor of media for everyone....including the alternative media.
What?
information manipulation and opinion shaping by government media military industrial complex I'm shocked sir, shocked I say.
I do agree all information these days is largely disinformation everyone has an agenda and that agenda shapes "their" information.
Yes, even ZH. Ostensibly, the most important thing for those in control is to control and they seem perfectly happy controlling opposing and incompatible views of the world.
If there is one thing that years of reading alternative media (and mainstream media) has taught me is that "reacting" based on what one source says wastes a whole lot of energy for no real purpose and makes one look stupid in the process.
However, I still believe (still hope) that somewhere within the compilation of everything is something useful, whether truth or untruth. Hopefully time and a library of the lies told over the years makes one better at discerning B/S.
Yes, CogDis.
I have reached the same conclusion, and ZH is included. We on here are being entertained and distracted just like our brethren. I still prefer this to the MSM, because I prefer to think that being warned to prepare for the worst has some slight potential to be useful rather than being told how awesome everything is, when clearly it is not. That said, however, all this back and forth is not gathering people physically together. And that will be what tips the scale, not jawboning, but congregating. Nowhere near that happening yet.
There are several shocks involved in the waking process.
1) That the MSM media lies to us and always has if for no other reason than to serve an agenda(s). And that the vast majority of MSM has been thoroughly co-opted, if only to serve its own best interest (aka an agenda) and always has been.
2) That the alternative media tends to do the same if for no other reason than to serve an agenda. And that the vast majority of alternative media has been thoroughly co-opted, if only to serve its own best interest (aka an agenda) and always has been.
This does not mean there are not small patches of media on both sides of the fence mostly free of these influences. Then again, those who fit this bill seem to be mostly ignored because they do not serve an agenda. What fun is there is reading, watching or listening to media that doesn't tell you what you want to hear?
The ultimate insane positive feedback loop. I know what I want to believe mostly because I have been told what to believe. The media I listen to tells me what I want to hear so I listen even closer to the media that tells me what I want to hear. That media, strengthened by those who support it, continue to tell its supporters what they want to hear. I in turn seek out additional media that tells me what I want to hear. Wash, rinse and repeat endlessly.
Nirvana!
Spot on Cog!
All media has its own agenda. They key is to read differnet media sites even if you disagree with them. The problem these days is most tend to go to the same ole places as the USA is so divided these days. Many sites will flat out ban you if you type a rational arguement about their blog. Many sites talk about freedom to exchange ideas as long as you do not rock their boat. The main reason I come here daily is because many here post conflicting comments. I usually just skim over the race baiting unless it makes since.
Yes, but what exactly are they distracting us from?
... or is it their version of creating purpose for our otherwise purposeless lives.
All 7 billion of us are told to believe in a God and creator who cares for each individual separately. It is not the number of units that I find daunting, but the question why?
... and maybe that is what we are being distracted from, the question and its answer.
Correct SofaPapa, I've noticed this as well. There are multiple propaganda channels for each level of society & each view point, from the unemployed to the CEO. Modern Information Operations provides is a personalised propaganda menu - we self select our meme of choice and click away. COINTELPRO controlled opposition on a global scale.
As long as your rage extends no further than a mouse click, the status quo remains intact, just the way they want it. Huxley would have been impressed at the modern non-pharmacological version of soma.
Jeez, seems that would make it pretty easy for Big Brother to Identify, Locate and Segregate certain folks at the right time for them. They know what we think by where we go, and what we say.
We have seen through recent experiments that science is rediscovering that our brains put out signals that can be used to interpret what we are thinking and also what we are communicating.
The total amount of power available to our bodies, including our brain is much, much larger than that of any cell phone of laptop computer.
How far fetched is I to believe that we are constantly transmitting telepathically, but we have lost or have forgotten the ability to receive. This could be the basis for prayer ... we transmit and others, not us, receive.
This would make the current type of spying by alphabet agencies and their masters crude by comparison. They infer and compile, instead of going to the source.
It is said that we had to be re-engineered and scattered after the Tower of Babel incident. Apparently some, just can't let it go.
It is about 20-200mv DC, just hold the leads of a voltmeter.
Its much easier to fool a man, than it is to convince a man that he has been fooled.
~Mark Twain
Indeed - that is what Putin regime propoganda is doing right now.
Neocons and the Ukraine Coupand yet still anti-Russian fanaticism is a major theme of neocon propaganda.
People don't learn from history because they don't learn history. Most people's historical perspective is roughly how long they have existed , combined with a general disdain for their elders advice.
-- Long modern Afro-lesbian studies degrees!
People become lazy and apathetic when times are good... Humans have a fairly short life cycle, and even shorter memories.
I regularly get frustrated with friends and family that think it's different this time.
It is never different.
As Above, So Below.
As it was in the beginning, so it is now and ever shall be. World without end ...
... or maybe not.
C'mon this has to be the first time in history, a super power nation has been fooled by a black man.
Twice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice , shame on me.
One thing Barry has done is make it obvious that he is not in power. By doing so, he has helped people look for where the actual power lies.
And still, most people do not look "deep" enough.
"For it is the doom of men that they forget."
Yep, 2008/2009 didn't happen.
Some folks don't learn.
...
“We’re so self-important. Everybody’s going to save something now. “Save the trees, save the bees, save the whales, save those snails.” And the greatest arrogance of all: save the planet. Save the planet, we don’t even know how to take care of ourselves yet. I’m tired of this shit. I’m tired of f-ing Earth Day. I’m tired of these self-righteous environmentalists, these white, bourgeois liberals who think the only thing wrong with this country is that there aren’t enough bicycle paths. People trying to make the world safe for Volvos. Besides, environmentalists don’t give a shit about the planet. Not in the abstract they don’t. You know what they’re interested in? A clean place to live. Their own habitat. They’re worried that some day in the future they might be personally inconvenienced. Narrow, unenlightened self-interest doesn’t impress me.The planet has been through a lot worse than us. Been through earthquakes, volcanoes, plate tectonics, continental drift, solar flares, sun spots, magnetic storms, the magnetic reversal of the poles … hundreds of thousands of years of bombardment by comets and asteroids and meteors, worldwide floods, tidal waves, worldwide fires, erosion, cosmic rays, recurring ice ages … And we think some plastic bags and some aluminum cans are going to make a difference? The planet isn’t going anywhere. WE are!
We’re going away. Pack your shit, folks. We’re going away. And we won’t leave much of a trace, either. Maybe a little Styrofoam … The planet’ll be here and we’ll be long gone. Just another failed mutation. Just another closed-end biological mistake. An evolutionary cul-de-sac. The planet’ll shake us off like a bad case of fleas.
The planet will be here for a long, long, LONG time after we’re gone, and it will heal itself, it will cleanse itself, ’cause that’s what it does. It’s a self-correcting system. The air and the water will recover, the earth will be renewed. And if it’s true that plastic is not degradable, well, the planet will simply incorporate plastic into a new paradigm: the earth plus plastic. The earth doesn’t share our prejudice toward plastic. Plastic came out of the earth. The earth probably sees plastic as just another one of its children. Could be the only reason the earth allowed us to be spawned from it in the first place. It wanted plastic for itself. Didn’t know how to make it. Needed us. Could be the answer to our age-old egocentric philosophical question, “Why are we here?”
Plastic… asshole.”
- George Carlin
want to hear how stupid i can be...
I just figured out that he cuts and pastes his post and that is WHY he writes in smaller caps..
Took me three years to figure it out. Seriously .
I have ADHD than overruns my high Iq.
I liked the post by the way.
As the line goes:
-- 'History is written by those who have hanged heroes"
Iraq and Afghanistan are really good examples of ignoring history. Ignoring the dictates of religion and culture on top of ignoring history is the height of stupidity but American leaders do it every day.
Because human nature stays the same.
Can you stop digging up the past as in the grand scheme of things yesterday is ancient history. The Overlords are content that folks are born stupid, live worthless lives and die without a pot to piss in; and folks are only too willing to oblige.
YES WE HAVE NO BANANAS
+1
"Brave New World" is okay in the beginning and then just totally falls apart. The depiction of Amerindians by self-styled expert Huxley is so bad as to beggar belief. That the persecuted young boy is a proxy for Huxley is so obvious as to be embarrassing. But it's okay, if you figure out how awful the novel is, there is an island you can go to where the pain of actually having read it will be ameliorated. In the novel, that is. In the real world, the suffering has to be endured,
I've learned a lot from history, but it means nothing if the national leadership hasn't learned anything from it.
Being quite versed in history, I can assure all that are reading this that history does NOT repeat. Nope.
Only the crimes of government do, and the obedience of those that have not learned about the crimes of government from history.
Saying that history repeats seems to be a bit of a cop-out; victimology.
Notice that even Huxley used the active word, "learn," not the more passive, "discover."
Know that only the crimes of government repeat, and refuse to behave as others in the past have. Refuse to emulate their obedience, and you, your country, the world, and history will have a better outcome.
An American, not US subject.
Folks are stupid.
History repeats because above all other traits, stupidity and greed is hereditary.
The psychopaths carry the greed gene and the rest of the population carry the stupidity gene which convinces them that the psychopaths know best.
Because the game is rigged on a corrupt money system which a few wealthy families of banking cartel pass it on to thier children over and over again......very simple really
http://newworldorderg20.wordpress.com/2014/11/14/1945-british-national-archives-document-reveals-prime-minister-clement-attlee-desire-for-new-world-order-with-russia-u-k-and-u-s/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuBe93FMiJc
http://newworldorderg20.wordpress.com/the-g20-are-collaberators-in-the-new-world-order/
http://newworldorderg20.wordpress.com/2014/11/10/good-cop-bad-cop-how-putin-and-the-west-are-playing-the-classic-scam/
History repeats because those who guide human events have no imagination or creativity. They cannot build. They only tear down.
Yes, history repeat it self. That is why Putin regime must be stopped.
We see how Putin propoganda brainwashes people minds about "Russian world" and "Pure Russians", "Chosen nation", etc. Putin regime has attacked and killed civilians in Chechnya when nation struggled for independence, than attacked Georgia (who where their brothers!) and occupied teritories there - now in progress to annex those teritories, than Putin regime occupied and annexed part of Ukraine - Crimea, now occupied part of east Ukraine and desperatly trying to annex it. He is acting like nazi Hitler. He has full control over Russian media and people there are brainwashed with lies just like in Nazi Germany. And now Putin regime works abroad with such propoganda channels like Russia Today and so called alternative media like ZeroHedge. There are huge buildings full with "computer administrators" which are payed to troll Putin regime propoganda at articles, forums, blogs, tweets, Facebook, ZeroHedge, Russia Today site, Youtube, etc. This propoganda machine has huge budget billions of USD to brainwash people.
Yes, indeed - history repeat it self. This mad Putin regime must be stopped - before it goes full open nazi regime.
Ukraine's Neo-Nazis Demand Respect | Global ResearchHow did you manage to graduate troll school?
So at Putin regime propoganda asset ZH, Putin regime payed troll posts other Putin regime propoganda asset / site as reference to some other Putin regime propoganda lies.
So why should I invest my time in it?
Soorry we don't all think the way you want us to...lots of other sites out there, so all is not lost. Maybe this would work for you? http://www.thedailybeast.com/ or http://www.jbs.org/
Nazi regime ? You mean like this one?
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_Sector.
It spirals, I think.
But, if you spend time studying history, it's hard to have time to run in politics.
Unfortunately, due to a bad educational system, the politicians have not spent enough time studying history!
So, we are screwed unless we can reintroduce regular school skills + teaching thought (philosophy) and a secular, moral base.
Humans perceive repeating patterns at different places and times.
The Earth has never been at the same place more than once in its path.
Lot of bag heads on Sundays.
I would call the war of 1812 a lesser war, as to the winner it is claimed by both sides. I would say that the advantage and the win goes to Britain with the caveat that it was the indirect intervention of Napolean that spared the US from total defeat to the need for more men and war materials to fight the emperor of France's campaign of European domination.
Consequently it was also to the US advantage when Napolean was nearly bankrupted that allowed for vast expansion of the US westward.
The point is that decisions have unforeseen significant and lasting consequences and second and third order effects.
I generally agree with your premise and its a perspective that I had not considered.
You spelled Napoleon wrong and nobody noticed .
I could argue with some of your French history also but nobody gives a shit.
lol fu ignorant apes.
Ok. Thanks I'm writing hurriedly on an iPad (no excuse but a reason).
What was incorrect with the history piece?
Napoleon was engaged in wars across Europe with Prussia, Russia and Great Britain, the war started circa 1798 are you rejecting this?
Also The UK was stretched supporting two wars one on the other side of the world in the US.
The war in the US also had tied up many of Britains most experienced soldiers.
Please reply I would like to here your response. Thank you again.
History repeats itself because the tribal bankers and their henchmen use the same techniques over and over again for starting the wars which repeatedly afflict mankind.
History repeats because our Frontal Cortex is a a very new innovation and the other parts of the brain are far older. Hormones and ancient instincts take over, superceding what is prudent, rational, and makes sense. Only a small percentage of people ever are outlayers and can step outside the current situation and see it for what it is.
Be thankful that you are one of the few who can see clearly.
can you jump twice in the same river, same water? even if you run downstream to catch the "same" water? even taking a timemachine?
evolution bitchez.
retarded