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Guest Post: Fanning The Flames In Ferguson
Submitted by James H. Kunstler via Kunstler.com,
The climactic uproar in Ferguson, Mo., a week ago took a zany turn when the “we want peace” message of Michael Brown’s family rotated 180 degrees to the imperative command, “burn this bitch down,” hollered repeatedly by stepfather Louis Head outside the grand jury headquarters as the decision was announced. The assembled crowd dutifully obliged and burned down many of the businesses that the local population depends on for routine commerce.
The scripted quality of these events seemed as formally predictable as an 1856 minstrel show, and the parallel is worth reflecting on because the nation appears determined to explode again in some kind of a civil war — bearing in mind Karl Marx’s advisory that “history repeats, first as tragedy, then farce.” As is the case with many show-biz extravaganza’s of our time the script had many authors.
First were the cable TV news venues, led by the race hustlers at CNN, whose limitless pandering to the intemperance of black viewers played a large part in cultivating the mood of injustice that failed to square with the objective reality of Michael Brown’s shooting at the hands of policeman Darren Wilson. Every conceivable delusion generated by the event was nurtured to the max in order to amp up the melodrama at the expense of clarifying what had happened. In the end, CNN celebrities Don Lemon and Anderson Cooper got the explosion of violence that their producers had worked so hard to fuel.
Next were the professional black race hustlers such as the Reverend Al Sharpton, now an MSNBC anchor! It seems generally forgotten that Sharpton fomented the 1988 Tawana Brawley rape farce that occupied the nation’s attention for a good year before all the allegations unwound into a limp skein of falsehoods, and Sharpton along with his race hustler lawyer sidekicks, Alton H. Maddox and Vernon Mason, were found liable for making defamatory claims against a Dutchess County (New York) Assistant District Attorney (alleged to be among several Brawley rapists). Now, 25 years later, a new crop of race hustlers has come along such as Brown family lawyer Benjamin Crump, who previously worked for Trayvon Martin’s family in the 2012 Florida case. In Act 3 of the Ferguson soap opera, you can be sure Crump will be trolling the “deep pockets” of Missouri for a “settlement.”
Next are the two idiots on The New York Times op-ed page: Nicholas Kristoff and Charles M. Blow. Kristoff, in his latest installment of racial self-mystification — When Whites Just Don’t Get It, Part 5 — proposes a “national commission” to study America’s race troubles. Wow, what an original idea! Commissions are so darn effective, don’t you think? Mr. Blow repeatedly makes the point that Americans are not willing to have an honest debate about racial issues. That is true largely because public figures such as Mr. Blow will instantly label as “racist” any idea or opinion that contradicts their own pleadings. Is disproportionate black crime a problem? “Racist!” Don’t go there.
A week after the grand jury decision and the riot that followed, the Michael Brown incident is already disappearing down the national memory hole. Why? Mainly because anyway you cut it Michael Brown was a poor candidate for martyrdom. The generous view of his fate is that he made a series of very poor choices one summer’s day. So now CNN is shopping for a replacement. As of Sunday night, they seemed to have settled on 12-year-old Tamir Rice, who was shot while brandishing a BB gun in Cleveland, Ohio. The media insist on calling it “a toy gun,” though photos depict a BB gun obviously designed to look like a regular automatic pistol. Poor Tamir Rice was foolishly acting out a childish mime show, pretending to shoot at passers-by. Someone in the neighborhood might have advised him that this was a good way to get himself shot. But no one did. Now, why was that?
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When the balloon goes up, everyone's your enemy, until proven otherwise.
Nothing worse than getting beaten to death while complaining you aren't the real enemy.
pods
The real enemy is the lack of accountablity being held to the leadership of this nation for not staying within the bounds of the constitution. Make no mistake that responsiblity is the publics and it is the public that is derilic in thier duty.
Apparently Mr. Head assumed indictment for sure and was quite surprised.................................
You can't make this stuff up.
USA!
The "race" industry needs government money, along with the subsequent corruption and graft, to prosper and thrive. Every now and then, it needs a "Michael Brown" or a "Trayvon Martin" to feed off and whip up the "Useful Idiots" into action. When do these dupes ever figure out they are nothing but race muppets for asshats like Sharpton, Jackson, Holder, and of course Emperor Goebbels?
www.traderzoo.mobi
"Teens" beat a white guy to death on Sunday.
http://blogs.riverfronttimes.com/dailyrft/2014/12/homicide_136_after_tee...
"Early Sunday morning, police found Zemir unconscious with injuries to his head, abdomen, face and mouth in the 4200 block of Itaska Street, just a mile south of his home. St. Louis police said a group of teens first attacked his car and then turned their hammers on him when he got out."
For Trayvon.
Ooops, I mean For Big Mike.
As long as none of the "teens" got hurt. They're only childredn.
You don't want to piss off the Bosnians.
Remember, chimps only attack when they have a surplus of numbers.
1 round in one such chimp would send the rest hooping back to the trees.
The New York Times published officer Wilson's home address....putting his family at risk.
No matter what one thinks of the situation, or policing, or race relations.....it is not good form to publish the family address. ...(yes I know it may be available on some Internet tracking site or even in the Yellow Pages....but I strongly dislike it when stupid newspapers pull this crap)....
If these New York Times reporters consider it OK to put Darren Wilson’s address out there, then they surely don't mind their own addresses being published.
Julie Bosman
5620 N. Wayne Ave, Apt 2
Chicago, IL 60660-4204
Julie Bosman's phone numbers:
Work: 312-552-7204
Mobile: 646-753-2052
Campbell Robertson
1113 N. Dupre Street
New Orleans, LA 70119-3203
Like they say; "What’s good for the goose, is good for the dirtbag."
the jew new york time times was only doing its bit to keep the goyim in line
"the message box is full and cannot accept any messages at this time..."
http://gotnews.com/breaking-cops-nyt-reporter-published-darrenwilson-add...
She is trying to get police protection, per this article. Ha! What a fricking hipocrit.
Liberalism is a mental disease. A symptom is a lack of common sense in the brain.
Funny how liberals turn into conservatives only after they are attacked by black thugs like Michael Brown.
+1000
When the liberalist ideals fail they always return to conservatism.
They only return to the talking points and trappings of conservatism for repackaging their program of disinforming, warping and confounding the public. Sigmund Freud, Franz Boas, Karl Marx, Gloria Steinem: All intellectual frauds with genocidal intent. Guess what they all have in common.
What they had in common : they were not black.
Which makes them civilized by your rules. Unless you feel like Gas-pumping them.
Which makes u ...a goosestepper.
Foie gras type.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/12/farrakhan-threatens-to-tear-this...
My best guess is that if I were to go on, say Facebook, and have this rant I would be getting arrested before days end..........
True Brown was not a model citizen. But a trained officer could have shot him in the leg, or just about any other place other than his head, in order to immobilize him. The guy was unarmed.
So we'll just add racism to the list of qualities this site panders too, along with Class 1 paranoia..
That kind of thinking ONLY happens in the movies. Not going to cut the cop any slack, but you are aiming center mass on an oncoming attacker. Period. Ain't no one shot and done either. You fire until the threat is stopped. Maybe one more due to adrenalin. None of this "shoot him in the knee as that will immobilize him." Fuck, cops have a hard enough time hitting someone as it is, nevermind have them aim at a specific body part.
As to your second point, at least we are crazy so we don't know no better.
What about you compadre?
pods
Its a fair point, in theory, but in practice, there were 12 shots fired, none from close anough range to evidence powder burns, where the initial altercation was 'inside' the cruiser but the body was found yards away, with 6 shots to it, including one to the top of the head.
This guy isn't a cop we would tend to wonder about excessive force.
Like many here, I did a stint in the military, although I was never a cop.
I could hit someone in the leg/thigh to stop them.
Easily.
But okay - that's not procedure, you err on the side of protecting the cop's life. I understand that - really.
But the guys a cop and that consideration goes outside the window and its all "fire til the threat is stpped."
You're asking me to believe that Brown wrestled for the gun, went away from the car some # of yards, then "charged at" the cop with 3 or 4 bullets in him, because of course, he was an animal, and was not wounded and chargng at someone shooting at you is normal?
Huh?
Sorry - not buying it. As much as I have no problem with the first few shots, I think the last couple, certainly should give you pause. Barely a scratch on the cop from a punch by this 'monster' - and the kid is supposed have been running into a hail of bullets?
Bullshit.
Just my opinion, of course, and I appreciate your take.
To be honest I have not looked much into the details. I know the two stories. Figured let the grang jury sort them out. No sense being on jury duty when I don't have to.
Cops are known for emptying mags at perps. Just be thankful it wasn't NYC. They tend to grab a spare mag or two and hit more bystanders than suspects.
pods
While I agree that some posters on this site tend towards what I might consider "racist" overtones....your charge that ZH "panders" to that attitude goes too far in the opposite direction. As the ACLU noted....true defense of freedom sometimes means allowing free speech that you personally may consider completely wrong or worse.
As for the "trained officer" comment....if you check, nearly all police departements have fairly tight policies covering when a weapon may be drawn and fired.....and the typical breakover point is in defense of life. ...(the same is true for defensive Concealed Carry).... If you are in fear of your life, you don't 'shoot them in the leg".
....(NOTE: I am not defending Officer Wilson, nor Ferguson, nor the police....just saying that the idea of "shooting to wound" will only land you in court)
Nobody is sacred on ZH, so we will make fun of Crackas, Niggaz, Chinks, Wops, Hebes, Gooks, Krauts, Frogs, Towel-Heads, Spics, Eskihos, etc., etc., etc. It is content of character that matters.
Listen.
You forgot dot-head injuns.
Teamdepend: Nobody is sacred on ZH, so we will make fun of Crackas, Niggaz, Chinks, Wops, Hebes, Gooks, Krauts, Frogs, Towel-Heads, Spics, Eskihos, etc., etc., etc. It is content of character that matters.
I feel a bit left out here, you forgot drunken Mc's. :(
Wilson was trained and carried out his training perfectly. Brown was wounded from multiple gun shots prior to the head shot, and yet continued to approach the police officier. The transcripts of the GJ are clear that multiple witnesses testified that Brown continued to approach the officier after being told to halt and even after being shot.
Regarding this being a racist site; if discussing items in open and objective manner is considered racist, so be it. You need to go back to watching MSNBC - they'll satisfy your non-objective, non-free thinking appetite just fine.
Brown was wounded from multiple gun shots prior to the head shot, and yet continued to approach the police officier.
I think this is a key point. If you credit that testimony, it essentially determines the legality of every shot fired, even, ostensibly, the shot to the top of the head.
I don't credit that testimony, or rather, I have a very hard time believing someone who had ben shot 3 times would "keep appoaching" a cop firing at him.
Listen, witnesses get coached all the time - particularly when a cop is involved. How many of those witnesses have rap sheets, or pending matters? Any chance there might have been some quid pro quo?
12 shots, most clearly from some distance, at an unarmed guy, clearly bothers me more than most people here.
Are you really this stupid that you can't understand that he got the headshot by having his head down and charging the officer as per the eyewitness testimony?
Liberals...
What's the point?
They'll lie about anything to make the facts fit the agenda.
oh my god you fucking idiot - I have doubts about a cops story and I'm a "liberal"?
you fucking right wing neocon moron. Eat a dick.
No - I dont think someone already shot multiple times was "charging" at an officer from 50 yards away.
You don't think witnesses lie, you fucking idiot?
A lying witness is far more likely than someone running into gunfire, after having been hit several times.
Might the part about charging into gunfire be a lie?
Well - you'll say, no, definitely not, your years of experience in criminal law assisting you: it's true because that's what the cop said and what a witness said. Yes - he was running at the guy shooting at him from 50+ yards away.
No questions about that?
That's because you're a cop-worshiping, racist cunt.
Brown's body was 190 feet away from the cop car. If he was charging, it was from very far away. And by no means a threat to Wilson from that distance.
For some reason, Wilson continued shooting at Brown as Brown was running away, hitting him twice in the back. After being shot as he was trying to flee, Brown might have figured that he might as well try to take out the officer who was shooting from behind.
It is likely that Wilson's fear for his own life prompted him to keep shooting. But why? when Brown was running away? Wilson is also a lousy shooter, although that could be explained away by the physical fear that consumed him.
Why was Wilson so afraid? He was armed, not only with a pistol, but with a police baton, mace and pepper spray. He could have dealt a diabling blow with the baton, or even with a shot at close range, had he been cool enough under pressure. Wilson was not psychologically and physically prepared to deal with the confrontation. Is that good enough reason to exonerate him from the charge of excessive use of force, from manslaughter, or even murder in the third degree? I don't think so.
Negative... GJ testimony, is that Brown's body was 153' 9" from the SUV front tire, not 190'. ~20% closer to the SUV than you indicated. But, hey, it sounds a lot better to say 190' doesn't it?
I agree with others. If a person or officer's life is in jeopardy, then you don't shoot for the legs or arm, or gun, you shoot at the body, and you shoot until the threat is stopped.
In Brown's case the overwhelming number of witnesses all say that Brown was not charging the officer with testimony of him staggering, or lurching or falling or staying still with hands up, somewhat up, in a plea, or up in disbelief. Only 2 offered contradictory eye witness accounts, one was a diary written by a person out of the area who just happened to be there, who just happened to see it at just the right time, but was told by the 'man in the green shirt' to get out of there right away. The other was an out of area worker who was 100 yards away, no 50, well maybe 75.
So if an assailant is attacking anyone with deadly force, absolutely, fire away at the body until the threat is stopped.
But if they are standing there, not attacking, that seems like murder to me.
Do a little research on Disparity of Force. Get some proper handgun training as well.....
A Lunitic: Do a little research on Disparity of Force. Get some proper handgun training as well.....
I've done more than "a little research"
Look up "escalation fof orce too :)
......don't know who you're responding too but I actually have more firearm training than what is required to be a LEO in this State, as well as one week (40 hrs) of the legal application of deadly force. I don't even carry any more simply because I live in a little po-dunk town, but one of the interesting things our instructor made us do was to stand thirty feet away from an attacker and draw your firearm (this case a rubber mock up of a Colt 45) from your holster. The "attacker" also had a rubber knife. To a person, everyone thought it would be "no contest" don't bring a knife to a gunfight bla, bla, bla..
When the instructor said "go" the attacker ran towards me...the average person can cover 30 ft PRETTY DAMNED QUICK!!!! Let me tell you, there were more than a few true believer made that evening 20+ years ago. It's a fucking eye-opener for sure.
I realize this is not the same scenario as the wilson / Brown incident... but to anyone second guessing....give it a try.
I've personally never had any problems with Police. I've beed stopped "DWW" Driving while white many, many times because my shop was located in a colorful part of town for 15 years...
Having said all this...."they" picked the wrong guy to defend his actions (brown).... I was blown away by the black guy who got fucking CHOKED OUT....choked to DEATH in NY recently...for selling blunts. He never lifted a hand towards the cops and was trying to walk away. In my book, that is 1000000000000000000 times more worthy of protests than the Wilson / Brown case.
I was responding to the idiot that wanted the police to perform leg shots. I also wanted him/her to do a little research into the law concerning the authorized (and not just for cops) use of deadly force. just because an assailant is unarmed does not mean they cannot fucking kill you. Who here thinks a 115 lb woman can physically defend herself against a 425 lb rapist?? Who here thinks she would be guilty of murder if she blew the SOB away in the defense of her life? Maybe she should just roll over and take one for the team and hope she lives to tell her fucking story on Oprah. And yes, inside 21 (or so) feet, a man armed with a knife, club, fists, will immobilize the man with a gun almost EVERY time.......
"True Brown was not a model citizen. But a trained officer could have shot him in the leg"
Bullshit. A trained officer would never shoot to wound, that is one of the most idiotic things I've read re: this case in the last two months.
Take a BB gun and get one of your less astute friends, have him stand thirty feet from you and then tell him to run at you. Then you attempt to shoot him in the leg.
Oh, you can do this? OK John Wayne.
LOL! Well come on man... Danny Glover did it when he was a cop. "I try to just shoot them in the leg".
Great article. Just look at the NON role models.
Mike Brown’s seven steps to six feet under.
1) Smoked dope.
2) Stole property
3) Assaulted a shopkeeper
4) Obstructed traffic
5) Failed to obey a lawful command from an officer of the law
6) Assaulted that officer
7) Attempted to kill that officer by trying to take the officer’s gun
The Truth: Michael Brown’s Family Of Gangsta’s, The Rest Of The Story (Video)
http://beforeitsnews.com/obama/2014/12/the-truth-michael-browns-family-of-gangstas-the-rest-of-the-story-video-2468794.html
IMO, the correct phrasing for #6 should be "Attacked a cop".
People...GJ testimony is clear in this regard. Read it - don't just listen to the media or the race baiters. Stop being 'useful idiots' and start thinking for yourselves.
He had to turn to thuggery 'cause YT would not give him enuff monies an' stuffs fo to make up fo slavery!
These instances of "excessive use of force" by police should not be defended or excused away. Whether it is a low-life bully or a 12-year old boy, a man holding a bee-bee gun being offered for sale at a Walmart, a pedestrian being "accidentally" shot to death, and many...many more, police have been given permission to kill whenever and wherever they think the circumstances warrant.
It is now illegal to take pictures of police exercising the use of force. And where it isn't, the police confiscate the device or destroy it, and harass and often arrest the persons seeking to record what they believe is excess.
The most pathetic excuse for police brutality is "fear for his personal safety". Okay! some guy looks scary, let's kill him. is not okay. Too many of our police must be cowards and wimps at their core. They can't handle the job of "law enforcement". The training they receive is intended to protect the government from the people, to suppress the expression of grievances, to violate the right of free assembly.
Kunstler can rant all he wants about the low-life mob of miscreants that torched Ferguson and other places like it. That is a smoke screen. It is beside the point that there is a "race industry" exploiting the mass of coloreds in this country. A blatant excessive use of force was used by officer Wilson, and by many other police in countless instances across this country. They are being excused when, in a significant number of those cases, they should be put on trial.
You raise a good point about police forces crossing the line between "protect & serve" ... to occupying military. The recent crackdowns on citizens trying to video their police force in action is a HUGE overstep and and infringment on the personal freedoms of nearly every American.
The problem...(at least from my perspective).....is that the wrong situations get all the media coverage. The Ferguson episode is not a good 'test case' to launch a useful discussion about police force. The criminal past of the assailant and the circumstances, ensure that the discussion moves away from general police procedure. More importantly, having folks like Sharpton show up and start chanting "racial discrimination"...also moves the discussion off into other territory.
Office Wilson may or may not have used excessive force. Having actually been to Ferguson, I can say that the frequent number of crimes in the area and the pervasive presence of bad folks on the streets, would make even the most reasonable person feel threatened. I wasn't there, so I can't argue one way or the other.
The point I come back to is.....to launch a reform of police departments, we need to use one of the many other incidents....not Ferguson.
Here,,,somebody make a T-shirt.
Black, White, Yellow, Brown, & Red.
COLORS UNITED !
It's the Bankers, Wall St., &
Crooked Politicians that SUCK!
"Kunstler can rant all he wants about the low-life mob of miscreants that torched Ferguson and other places like it."
Well, he does hate suburbs, so there's that.
Mainly because anyway you cut it Michael Brown was a poor candidate for martyrdom.
This is what bothered me....the cameras in the Convienence store showed what a thug this guy was...but they kept calling him a gentle giant...right...as this thread shows..many people have not read or do not want to know the facts in the case....that is what will bring this country to a civil war...emotions and not facts....same with the 12 year old with the plastic gun...the video of him shows him pulling it out and pointing it at people....wrong in so many ways..and those bb guns look just like the real thing....and the Cop would never know until after the death by cop suicide by that kid...that is what it was....no tears here...Darwin award winner
Poor Dindu Nuffin
Honor student
About to turn his life around
Aspiring rapper
Etc
Etc
Etc.
"He were in de kwoir an' was turnin' his life aroun'"
This calls for some haiku. Here is my submission.
Stolen Swisher Sweets
If it's Brown, he must go down
Adiós stup-nig
Dude, i'm cryin! That's lovely, it should be on Hallmark cards. The Kwanzaa ones.
I'd imagine that the Hallmark stores in East St Louis have ample room to expand the Kwanzaa section due to consistently lackluster Father's Day Card sales.
"Honor student" ......an award strictly confined to the top 99% of "graduates".
I'm just surprised they did not use a innocent photo of the thug at 12 or 13.
Same with the 'white hispanic,' they used another thug and a mixed-race shooter.
All our antcestors wuz slaves. We gots de right to free stuff 'an all, and we deservers moar o-bama phonz an' cheetos an' big TV sets. Yassir, we is trapped in de hood 'an caint do nuffin fo ourselfs 'cause one time long ago we wuz SLAVES!
It's obvious Ayers, Bath House and Hold 'em are trying to use their contacts in the CPUSA to create friction.
But the most damning example of all the hypocrisy is they do NOTHING about B on B crime in the urban areas.
So ZH supports blue privilege, eh?
Or is it only when the perp/vic is a nigger?
Seems to me like the less statist, cop dick-sucking approach is to support the idea that when a cop shoots his weapon 12 fucking times at an unarmed decedent, a trial is generally the way to go.
I can't imagine a circumstance where a civilian, in similar circumstances, would not have to face trial.
Here - I'd expect the cop to be found not guilty. Lots of reasonable doubt, and I think he just panicked, and apparently did not violate procedure as to "stopping the target". Fine. But not having the trial is kinda fucked up.
Not going to address your first rant, but I did think the GJ would indict him on something. Always saw grand juries as slam dunk.
Bascically this is the evidence we have, and do you think this warrants a trial. Shit, when DAs chicken out on charges they usually use a GJ to do it for them.
pods
Not understanding the purpose oof a grand jury is just as fucked up. Has nothing to do with being a "statist" or "cop -dick-sucking" and more to do with asking if there is enough evidence that the cop veered from procedure.
take your own first sentence as advice. A gj is not an admin hearing. it's not admin law.
It's to determine if there's probable cause to charge someone for a felony.
A civilian would, in the real world, virtually certainly have been indicted.
"more to do with asking if there is enough evidence..."
Guess that depends on what's presented and who's asking.
No omissions, right? The GJ had ALL the facts?
If there had been any evidence that the Police officer had acted outside the law they would have sent him to trial and they would have been looking very hard for that evidence as that would have kept the brain dead residents of Ferguson quiet, there wasn't so they had to let him go, the cop did his job and the world is a better place without Brown.
Caught on Camera, Black Ops in Action in Ferguson:
http://winteractionables.com/?p=16888
The usual shyster subtle hype technique to talk about everything and anything EXCEPT about the naked facts.
The truth is that Ferguson is a written testimony, in blood of youth, of Elitist white America's resistance to change and to leveling the national economic playing field for all its citizens. Cause and effect of a neo-segregationist socio-economic ghettos construct policy now comes home to roost, not only in the US but also in Europe as economic turmoil adds to hidden socio-economic fault lines.
50 years after the "I have a dream" iconic claim to righting 200 years of slavery cum segregationist social divide and blatant wrongdoing; not only to a defavoured minority class, but more importantly, to Immigrant America's founding father's dream and value systems; a stab in the back to one's own most precious heritage; the events and consequent political cover-up--dressed in misapplied legalese evident to all, the world over--- is a lasting stigma on Majority America's MINDSET.
Its a stain as evident as a black swan in pain, doused in vagrant Oil from a spill in the ocean that everbody concerned fingerpoints to the other. Typical Oligarchy and power elite sleight of hand.
Just as the Warren Commission conclusions were a damning legacy to the death of true democracy and its lawful process in the USA, heralding in its ominous aftermath the emergence of a MIC cum Oil Oligarchy run elitist political construct, whose globalistic mayhem, consequence of its rampant take over of country and economy, we see on all continents of the world. That was a big step with big consequences.
But the devil is also in the detail. Big or small the transgression, the consequences can be awesome when the symbol is trans-societal, like a prairie fire.
A small step by a wayward, gun-toting policeman in Ferguson on an unarmed man, a giant step in the world of racial violence and dystopia.
Fanning the flames of Nam in false flag Gulf of Tonkin type hype would be a more appropriate epitaph to this poster's smoke n mirrors knee-jerk!
Oligarchy run--as socially beneficial-- Wisteria Lane USa and surrogate Vietnam type black suburbia, the divide is there and most probably growing, as the Oligarchy has no solutions for the down-under; just like in the 1930s.
Commies, bogey men, black looters, terrorists; you name it; but the room at the top is a place where anything goes when it comes to smacking a label on a targeted minority that 'we have to burn as an example to save democracy and civilization.'
"Its them or its US fellas, and WE don't intend to lose all, whatever the cost!" Amen.
America was not built for "loosers". The world better understand that. And it will.
Just like the barbarians understood Rome's mindset, and the dutch peasants understood Habsburg's universal empire, and the French peasant the royal disdain of the Bourbons.
Plenty of whites have been killed by blacks in the recent past, and hundreds of blacks have shot and killed other blacks since Brown died.
Can you produce a scintilla of evidence that you have given a single fuck re any of these deaths?
... kind of a silly rant there....why don't you go rob a store tomorrow morning and then punch a cop out and wrestle for his gun? Get back to us tomorrow evening, ok?
The only naked fact is that Blacks are violent and stupid, and they don't belong in a civilized nation. Thanks for polluting our discourse with your senseless discharge, shit for brains. You diaper heads are the most violent, unpredictable, irrational and asinine set of murderers and hypocrites on the planet. Equality doesn't exist and you don't belong here either.
"The only naked fact is that Blacks are violent and stupid, and they don't belong in a civilized nation."
I've had scores and scores of black customers over the years. Never once did any of them act violent or stupid towards me. Never.
So you've had 20 black customers (or perhaps 40, or 60?) that haven't acted violently or stupid towards you and that does what, negates the fact that blacks commit more violent crimes in the United States than another other race? Lose the white guilt bullshit.
I have no guilt. There's no reason to have guilt, I'm just stating that in my interaction with blacks none of them has ever acted violent or stupid.
And that proves................that there are some non-violent and non-stupid blacks out there. A conclusion that virtually nobody woudl disagree with. Have you heard of things like averages and ratios?
you don't belong here...
Do u run ZH?
are we in a white supremacy congregation?
I thought you were a citizen of the uSA.
It does have a constitution and a History, of which race is not a constituant factor.
I hate value systems that have been proven wrong by past history, I don't spew my hate on the basis of ingrained prejudice.
Why don't you just accuse him of being a RACIST! and leave it at that? It usually suffices whenthere are no facts to back your case.
'cos I'm not u !
Not that I agree with your affirmation, which is contradicted by what HE WRITES : The only naked fact is that Blacks are violent and stupid, and they don't belong in a civilized nation.
Now ain't that cute and purty ?
The policeman or his equivalent in the forces would surely applaud such a resumé of all the population of Ferguson.
"Its like being in Nam or Afghan or Iraq ! All dark and devious !"
Lol.... Now that is poetic. I know they didn't mean it literally, just metaphorically !
Right, so give us your considered opinion on blacks' contribution to building their own societies in Africa and their own neighbourhoods in the West. You really think they belong in advanced techno-industrial societies?
they belong on earth as much as any homosapien species. The first homosapien was Arican. Africa is their continent. They belong in America as imported sons of slaves, and they are outstanding contributors in all domains; those who manage to cut their way up to the top based on merit.
Float like a butterfly, man!
What makes u think they can't operate any industrial complex or hi-tech lab in the world?
The fact is that were blacks to get by purely on their own intelligence and industry they'd be starving outside their mud huts. In advanced countries they'd just about survive at bare subsisence levels. God it really annoys me the crap that's spewed out on this subject.
I have read the GJ testimony
I have NOT read the GJ testimony but feel qualified to comment anyways
http://www.truthorfiction.com/images/Ganstar-Michael-Brown2.JPG
but...but...he was on his way to choir practice!
The contrived conflict would not have worked if he was just a good kid in the wrong place. Everyone could rally around it being wrong to shoot a good kid under any circumstances and the cop would have to be a psychopath to just go out and murder a good kid.
Conflict can only come from making the reasons at cross purposes... in this case "race versus reason". In the bigger picture black people don't like getting the short end of the stick and being taken advantage of. Also, in the big picture self defense is self defense even if cops have been generically tainted as not serving society, but themselves and the government (in that order).
Just remember folks, as we all turn our attention to Ferguson and other staged events and continue to debate it and argue over it, TPTB continue looting this countries wealth unabated, Lets don't fall in to the racism trap they have baited out there and instead focus on TPTB.
If you want to change the problem then you need to address it at its source ... just saying.
No amount of burning building and violence between police and the public is going to fix the problem, which is that those who want to control us want us fighting each other.
If we stop fighting each other and concentrate on fixing the issue with them (preferably nonviolently), then we have a chance.
her name was Miriam Carey
http://www.wnd.com/2014/11/michael-brown-vs-miriam-carey/
where is the outrage...........
Sometimes, when you act stupidly, you die....Let's move on....
Peak Jew: The media and race huxter industry is Kosher certified. If violent thugs are tormenting the middle class in the street it keeps their eyes off the people who are stealing their country by elbowing them out of higher education and quite literally giving eachother the management roles.
"Poor Tamir Rice was foolishly acting out a childish mime show, pretending to shoot at passers-by. Someone in the neighborhood might have advised him that this was a good way to get himself shot. But no one did. Now, why was that?"....
While I agree with just about everything Kunsler has to say on this subject, I think his choice of using Tamir Rice as an example of the MSMs poor track record in their quest to being whores for money that they are that look the other way when revealing "truth" he should have refrained from using this particular one as an example. Much like the Michael Brown story their is still too much that the public doesn't know -but what does it matter when you are losing both your God given freedoms and security every day through random acts of violent excessive force by police to hundreds if not thousands of Americans every day just like it?
I would have simply said that if any American wants to understand what is behind the "Iron Curtain" of the Land of the Free Home of the Brave under the auspices of post-911 DHS just visit the plethora of youtube videos of young and old alike that have been the recipients of the preordained scorched earth policy by To Serve and Protect since the war on terror and NDAA came into being, and finish it by saying -so why aren't "Johnny" and "Suzy Q" taxpayer in Washington by now with those grievances after more than 13 years of it?
Still haven't figured out how playing the race card is an advantage when you've lost your military years ago to too many misadventures through lies and how this will improve morale at home for starting a World conflict this time around against superpowers?...
Maybe this is why the Ebola epidemic is on temporary sabbatical until they can figure out a way to weave it into something bigger and more useful?!!!...
See the Jigga-Rams of the NFL doing the "hands up" bullcrap dance? Someone should let them know that that particular load of horseshit was renounced by the coward 'boon liar darian "Douchebag" johnson, who is thanking his lucky stars that the maggot AG Holder no longer will prosecute ANY black person for ANY crime... even assault with deadly body odor...
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Is disproportionate black crime a problem? “Racist!” Don’t go there.
It is....but so is black unemployment (up since Obama in office) and black incomes (down $3,483 since 2009).
It's all related. As David Cross once said, there is a reason folks deal drugs instead of settling for a min-wage job flipping burgers. It's called, "math".
For those that think this thing should have went to trial, don't you think it would have gone to trial if Eric Holder and his little army found anything in the past 3 months since the shooting? There isn't anything there. The last thing the administration wants to do is to drag this thing to trial which would take a couple of years and then in 2016, the result of the trial would have been not guilty with everyone knowing the actual truth that the administration dragged it to trial. Obama and Holder haven't said a word which is all you need to know about where the facts point.
Mr Kunstler, like his namesake, the radical leftist lawyer of the 1960s-70s, is part of the problem not the solution.
First there was a few days after Ferguson the white kid shot dead in a store parking lot in SLC by a black cop who was wearing one of these uniform cameras btw, nothing in national news about it then this black cop got away with murdering a white teen via Grand Jury in Alabama.
White Teen Killed by Black Cop in Alabama Mirrors Ferguson
By Valerie Richardson, Washington Times, November 27, 2014
I know what you're getting at and you're correct. But Mr. Kunstler's people have always shown a rematkable ability to straddle both sides of a dispute.
Why black people do not get history. Every when asked to spell Justice they come up with hipocrasy.
To many black thugs in America, listening to their gangsta rap, high on drugs or booze or simply with a belief that they can do anything they want to anybody with no repercussions
I am glad Brown is dead, probably saved a number of lives, this thug was only going to get worse as he got older, I think we all know that, its not like he was going to suddenly have an epiphany and decide to become a law abiding citizen.
The US does need a commission on race, to work out how America is going to deal with the millions of low IQ black thugs in its community, Mandatory work comes to mind, busy people working everyday don't have the opportunity to sit around getting stoned or drunk and it might actually give them some respect for themselves and the community, no free lunches, no handouts, you earn what you get.
You guys are idiots for referring to African-Americans as N-word. WTF is wrong with you people.
You won't get your stupid lifeboat communities during deindustrialization. You won't get to choose your neighbors. Straighten up, fly right, and get cool with not getting to choose your bougie, racist life of your heart's desire, with white folks living like the Ammish. Because when you run out of ammo -- and you will -- and your gold has been confiscated by the guy who has a crap-ton more gold and guns than you and your dippy "ooh-shiny" neighbors ever will, and all your "like-minded" neighbors have been co-opted by that warlord, typing anonymized hatred in blogs will be a valueless skill when you're forced to exchange a real service utilizing skills in the realm of Newtonian science that your grandparents could have used. Among neighbors who will probably not speak English as well as you do, and will probably not like Mayonnaise as much as you do.
Get over yourselves. This insular, croniest racism really detracts from the occasional utility left in this blog.
I was waiting at the bus stop, taking a rest with my child today. I sat for a moment and was talking in broken spanish with a columbian woman who had a child with her. I was trying to agree with her that it was a little warmer than the morning. Her daughter explained in spanish that her mom didn't speak english well. I said I understood, and thanks. A moment goes by. And they hand me a banana as a snack for my son. A beautiful, simple offering. My son ate it, just looking at them, taking them in. Totally lovely.
"Next were the professional black race hustlers such as the Reverend Al Sharpton, now an MSNBC anchor! "
Remember, big supporter of Obama, Brian Roberts, leads Comcast, the owner of Al Sharpton's MSNBC.
Always remember and never forget that you have options such as Verizon Fios and the two satellite television providers and do not need to fund Roberts, Comcast, MSNBC and Al Sharpton.