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Putin Kills "South Stream" Pipeline, Will Build New Massive Pipeline To Turkey Instead
In retrospect, it should have been obvious in August.
Back then we wrote that the EU's poorest member nation, Bulgaria, had been an enthusiastic supporter of the Russian-backed South Stream gas pipeline project, whose construction has stoked tensions between the West and Moscow as it enabled gas supply to bypass troubled Ukraine (thus squeezing the desparate economy back into Russia's hands). In early June, Bulgaria's Prime Minister Plamen Oresharski ordered an initial halt (after Europe offered the nation's suddenly collapsing banking system a lifeline). Subsequently, Energy Minister Vasil Shtonov has ordered Bulgaria’s Energy Holding to halt any actions in regards of the project as it does not meet the requirements of the European Commission.
And then, just to send Putin a very clear message where the allegiances of this former Soviet satellite nation lie, NATO deployed 12 F-15s and 180 troops to Bulgaria's Graf Ignatievo Air Base.
A dozen F-15s and approximately 180 personnel from the 493rd, based at RAF Lakenheath, England, have deployed to Graf Ignatievo Air Base to participate in a two-week bilateral training exercise with the Bulgarian air force, Pentagon spokesmen Col. Steve Warren told reporters Monday.
The exercise began Monday and will continue through Sept. 1.
The purpose of the deployment is to “conduct training and focus on maintain joint readiness while building interoperability,” Warren said.
The move comes at a time when America’s Eastern European partners and allies are concerned about Russian military intervention in Ukraine. There are fears that Moscow might try to destabilize other countries in the region.
“This is a reflection of our steadfast commitment to enhancing regional security,” Warren said about the exercise.
We concluded as follows: "How will Putin react one wonders?"
We now have the answer: earlier today, in a stunning announcement, Putin revealed that the South Stream project is now finished. As the WSJ reports, "Putin said Moscow will stop pursuing Gazprom’s South Stream pipeline project that would supply natural gas to Europe with an underwater link to Bulgaria, blaming the European Union for scuttling the project."
“We couldn’t get necessary permissions from Bulgaria, so we cannot continue with the project. We can’t make all the investment just to be stopped at the Bulgarian border,” Mr. Putin said. “Of course, this is the choice of our friends in Europe.”
“We think that the European Commission’s position was not constructive,” Mr. Putin said. “If Europe does not want to implement it, it will not be implemented.”
Putin is right: Europe - Austria excluded - had seen rising resistance to the South Stream in recent months as the crisis in Ukraine has intensified. The EU is concerned that the project would cement Russia’s position as Europe’s dominant supplier of natural gas. Russia already meets around 30% of Europe’s annual needs.
So what does Putin do? He signs a strategic alliance with NATO member Turkey, the only country in Europe that is anything but European (over the endless veto of Germany preventing its entrance into the EU over fears of cheap, migrant labor) and which lately has been increasingly anti-Western, to build a new mega-pipeline to Turkey instead. As RT reports, Gazprom CEO Aleksey Miller said the energy giant will build a massive gas pipeline that will travel from Russia, transit through Turkey, and stop at the Greek border – giving Russia access to the Southern European market. In effect, Russia will still have access to the Southern Stream endmarkets
The pipeline will have an annual capacity of 63 billion cubic meters. A total of 14 bcm will be delivered to Turkey, which is Gazprom’s second biggest customer in the region after Germany.
Russia’s energy minister Aleksandr Novak said that the new project will include a specially-constructed hub on the Turkish-Greek border for customers in southern Europe.
In a joint press conference between Putin and Turkish leader Erdogan, the Russian said that the supply of Russian gas to Turkey will be raised by 3 billion cubic meters via the already operating Blue Stream pipeline, Last year, 13.7 bcm of gas was supplied to Turkeyvia Blue Stream, according to Reuters.
And another fringe benefit of becoming a preferred Russian ally: Moscow will reduce the gas price for Turkish customers by 6 percent from January 1, 2015, Putin said. Later, Novak said the discount could reach 15 percent, subject to negotiations. Sorry Ukraine.
And sorry Bulgaria, which despite being wholly reliant on Russian gas for its commercial, industrial and residential needs, has decided to side with the sinking European Union, making it merely the latest insolvent vassal state of the sinking Eurozone, something Putin made abundantly clear during today's conference:
- PUTIN: BULGARIA UNABLE TO ACT AS SOVEREIGN STATE OVER GAS LINK
- PUTIN: RUSSIA TO REORIENT ENERGY RESOURCES TO OTHER MKTS: IFX
Bulgaria should now expect its gas costs to boldly go where Ukrainian energy prices have so boldly gone before.
As for Turkey, the country that bridges Europe with Asia is merely the latest expansion of Putin's anti-dollar alliance:
- TURKEY, RUSSIA AGREE TO USE LOCAL CURRENCIES IN TRADE: TRT
Or, as Obama would put it, Russia just got even more "isolated."
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This Putin fellow must be stopped before his free market capitalism spreads to the West !!!
To save NATO, the US must be kicked out.
so Turkey was just bribed earlier today to allow the U.S./NATO to use their bases to establish a no-fly zone over part of Syria. Now this with Russia?
could Turkey be up for bribes from the highest bidder/biggest threat or what?
pssssst...hey, Turkey...it's kinda obvious you're a slut.
Of course, why do you think they allied themselves with the West in the first place? USA didn't get to station nuclear missiles on Turkish soil for no kickbacks.
Turkey has always been it's own regional power, they were just temporarily weakened by Ottoman excesses. With Russia moving closer and closer to regional power Germany, too, it looks like the oligarchs of the west are done.
China will make it all possible.
If Turkey didn't control the only way in and out of the Black Sea, they would mirror Lebanon in strategic value and stability.
As a staunch liberal, I'm really lost here.
Didn't President Obama just pardon Turkey?
Why would Turkey do this?
Is Turkey racist?
Wasn't the whole Cuban Missle Crisis really caused by the refusal of the West to remove outmoded nuke missles from Turkey, leading to Krushev to move nuke missles to Cuba? And the crisis was only "solved" be actually removing the Turkish Nukes AND the Cuban Nukes. Now it's gas wars instead of nuke wars, but Turkey is still the central player. History ryhmes again.
A dozen F-15s and approximately 180 personnel from the 493rd, based at RAF Lakenheath,
Watch out Vlad. A whopping 12 jets and one hundred-eighty personnel. Try not to be too scared.
Since everyone in the poliburo is too stupid to notice, this move right here, will go down in global history, and ring clear for the next century if it truly goes thru.
Brrrr.
NOW, global warming is desperately needed to keep Europe from turning from a turd, into a frozen turd that won't flush! LOL!!!
You're so lost there is no NATO.
There are no more nations man come out of your WWII coma
http://newworldorderg20.wordpress.com/2014/11/14/1945-british-national-archives-document-reveals-prime-minister-clement-attlee-desire-for-new-world-order-with-russia-u-k-and-u-s/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuBe93FMiJc
http://newworldorderg20.wordpress.com/2014/10/27/russian-bank-hires-two-former-u-s-senators/
http://newworldorderg20.wordpress.com/2014/11/19/u-s-using-russian-rocket-engines-to-launch-spy-satelites/
much more.......http://newworldorderg20.wordpress.com
No offense, but FUCK THAT.
!!! That;s pretty funny. I liked the part about the pipeline in Bulgaria not meeting European Commission standards. Nothing meets European Commission standards unless it's pre-approved from Washington; or else somebodies private phone calls and e-mails are going to appear in the newspaper; or at least that's the way it seems to me.
Even better NATO should be disbanded as there is no copmmunist threat any more.
Not in east europe...
they moved west
Fuk da gummint. Fuk da elected ruling political elite. Fukem.
If we dont give him what he wants he'll get something bettet.
That's the same logic as this one:
So reducing the supply possibilities and be dependent on USrael vassal and bancrupt gas-blackmailer Ukraine improves Europe's position?! LOL.
Typical City of London and New York propaganda BS that prooves how extremely the EU is controlled by alien interests and not continental European interests.
I'm pretty sure you missed my point...
Russia is acting as a nation state.
A Marxist would call it a national capitalistic monopoly.
I would call it the 7th circle of hell.
Violence.
Europe is acting as a market state vassal of general externalized financial capital
The 9th circle.
Treason.
Sounds like the Netherlands just won big.
I'm not so sure about the human race though.
Still...this doesn't make any sense either. Why does Putin need a pipeline to anywhere again?
Just attack already. Don't tell me "it's weather related" when it comes to Putin too...
Can you remind me where in this article was there a reference to Netherlands?
Perhaps he means it as nether-regions which were referenced (7th and 9th circles of hell) in the post he was replying to.
he probably meant the potential for it to become an LNG hub
No one seems aware how expensive LNG will be.
Need to remind of that in real.
Just cos more middlemen
But that and control is the plan
nonsense, Hulk. frakking unbelievable you got 140 + for such an inexact comment. must have been the spirit of it
you wrote:"This Putin fellow must be stopped before his free market capitalism spreads to the West !!!"
Putin is not a champion of "free market capitalism". the correct term for what he is championing is state capitalism
evidence: Gazprom. 445'000 employees, making it the biggest employer of Russia after the Russian military. 50% of the stocks are in the hands of the state
when Gazprom sneezes, Russia catches a cold. meanwhile, Gazprom's pipelines and interests are Russian national interests
it is still a form capitalism, but this one agent can't be permitted to fail, a form of TBTF. and don't get me started on prices and market neutrality
man, it was 2nd degree humor, the concept is to tell exact opposite of the reality as a sarcasm.
you should go out and take a breath
That damned Putin. Washington would be so much better off if he was gone.
today - Barack Obama and Donald Tusk did not exclude further deepening sanctions against Russia
I hope Poland embraces it's Slavic heritage one day and allies with it's big cousin to the east.
With Germany becoming Russia's ally, not just economically, but politically as well they may have no reasonable choice.
But don't let reason sideline the Poles from hoisting our own petards, we are some stubborn bastards.
russia can "allie" itself with Poland's JASSM missiles...very soon. No other country is arming itself like Poland....leopard 2A5s,F-16,F-35, apache, blackhawks, $40B wisla anti-air system, lech walesa's interest in Polish nukes..
JASSM procurement is no joke...a russian af base in belarus had to be moved further east.
add in the lng port on the german border, NATO article 5...& you putin pussies can eat shit
I shall have to go back and read James Michner's "Poland." I don't recall them being too closely related to those living east of them. (The Tatars always used to overrun the place and that always ends up with relations.) What I recall for sure is that Poland is very flat and basically has no natural defenses - mountain ranges, rivers etc. It just gets overrun. I feel for them.
As I recall, the last time Germany, Russia and Poland were together in a deal, it was Hitler and Stalin deciding how much each would get of Poland. Poland's hope is anti-symmetric warfare. Kind of like what Russia attempts with the US - a $2 million sunburst (?) missile taking out a $300 million US warship. Poland needs to be buying all of the A-10 Warthogs which the Air Force wants to get rid of so that Lockheed-Martin can build a new fleet of more expensove and less efficient aircraft to further improve Russia's leverage in the asymmetric warfare scenario. Congress at least sees the sense in keeping the A10. I read that we just sent a lot of them to fight ISIS.
Any ideas on how long before ISIS is using those A 10's and what the supply chain will be?
Joe Trader Poland as a major power, standing up to Russia.... I just shit myself laughing.
Poland is nothing more than a whore to America, giving the USSA endless blowjobs for the right to be blown, Russian style.
Poland is always on the wrong side of everything
And thats why Poland has tendency to disappear from time to time from the map of Europe, no kidding.
"What I recall for sure is that Poland is very flat and basically has no natural defenses - mountain ranges, rivers etc."
Now that's not entirely true - there are mountains in the south of Poland. It could easily defend itself from attack by Slovakia.
not so fast my friend
Slovakia did attack poland in retalation to Poland's attack
during WW2
right now though Slovakia cannot attack jack shit
since there are like 3-4 old russian jets available in operational conditions
and who does it defend itself against when a faked flight allegedly containing already murdered polish govt patriots takes out the whole core of the independent minded polish govt? a non existant cloud of volcano dust causes a nice distraction, ect ect. what independent minded polish govt can anyone talk about ?
Wow NATO and the US of Obala must really hate the Poles. The F-35 is an incredibly expensive piece of shit.
The USA is now Ferguson and Trayvonville, open borders third world state. Keep watching TV and Hollywood to support the destruction of the USA.
Pierre Sprey talking about how bad the F-35 is. He helped design the f-16 and A-10 with Colonel Boyd. I doubt you know who Col. Boyd is or was. RIP.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxDSiwqM2nw
Freddie: You just made my night. I'm forwarding that vid to a local militroid who insists stubbornly that the F-35 is God's ticket for American air supremacy.
Canada's PM Harper risks looking like a boob for approving procurement of this LEMON despite all evidence that we are being F'd.
F’d: How the U.S. and Its Allies Got Stuck with the World’s Worst New Warplane (Medium.com, 13-Aug-2013)
Pentagon briefing suggests Canada about to buy at least four F-35 jets (G&M, 7-Nov-2014)
Per Pierre Spray the F35 would be perfect for Poland....
The U.S. is a de facto Israeli protectorate. Hence the open borders. Too bad it can't last.
Because sanctions are a lie especially amongst friends like the U.S. and Russia
http://newworldorderg20.wordpress.com/category/sanctions-on-russia-meaningless/
Europe would be better off if the US was gone.
..Then quit buying our shit, selling us your shit- simple.
technically it is you who design the shit but you assembly em in east china, get stuff back to usa and sell thru ebay... when i understood that, i started buying directly from aliexpress.
a 2000$ scope rifle bought for 60€ with same spec.
should i have to tell more about my thinking of your economy?
I thought gun rights were all but non-existent in Europe/Canada/Australia. Do Tell.
Putin is the best buddy of the U.S. always was always will be......always need a fake enemy for fake war
http://newworldorderg20.wordpress.com/2014/10/27/the-u-s-gives-russia-free-military-equipment/
http://newworldorderg20.wordpress.com/2014/11/13/joint-team-from-stanford-university-and-saudi-arabia-launch-satellite-from-russias-dombarovsky-air-base-jun-2014/
http://newworldorderg20.wordpress.com/2014/11/27/russia-and-the-u-s-sell-to-both-sides-of-india-pakistan-tension/
http://newworldorderg20.wordpress.com/2014/11/21/u-s-chevron-enter-joint-project-with-russias-lukoil-in-nigeria/
so much more.....http://newworldorderg20.wordpress.com
With everyon one of your posts I feel ZH gots the herp.
Putin pulls the chess move. Europe will need to find a nice shale deposit somehere.....
It's heating up.
I'm sure Ketchup Kerry will save the day...
I can't see how this is a good chess move.
The US and EU got what they wanted. Putin didn't get what he wanted, so he went with his second choice - his only choice.
How can anyone possibly imply that is a win for Putin????
We pipe'd some folks.....
and we prepare to nato some millions russian folks.
Fresh smart moves by Putin in the geopolitical field
What do they mean
http://failedevolution.blogspot.gr/2014/12/fresh-smart-moves-by-putin-in...
Too late. Nobody trusts Putin now.
Trans Adriatic Pipeline from Azerbaijan to Turkey, to Greece to Albania is under way.
Azeris are the new trusted source
http://www.tap-ag.com/
Not about trust, it's about isolation.
Official map
http://www.tap-ag.com/the-pipeline/route-map
TAP is the king of south now, defended by NATO. Putin lost the south of Europe
I still don't understand why you are so negative. Putin had 3 hours meeting 1 on 1, signed 10 contracts, including nuclear plants and gas pipeline - Pretty good for isolation... Turkey can have other projects - it's their right, we are not the west which demand - don't do that or this.
Nice pieces of paper that will never materialize
South Stream was already signed on paper when it started
Lets wait, but you don't have any proof, so i can say your pipeline will never materialize too.
it is already under way
You think Putin will blow it up?
Let him dare
plz, don't be such a joke - Reminder:... was already signed on also. But, you know, just cancelled.
Turkey, Greece, Albania, Italy, all NATO
Azerbaijan is in the pocket of NATO.
I can't see Putin snatching Ilham Alyev from NATO control. He is too much entangled now. Made serveral visits to US congress thus far. Quite happy with the business
i can't see why are you contradict oneself, only if you have some agenda.
One time you say - contract is contract and next message - contract is paper
Come back to reality.
A contract is just a paper and nothing else, until all is over
Reality is that Eastern Europe will fall into abject poverty that will make their USSR years seem like the golden age.
The Golem does not share power.
Hmmm. No. Russia would fall into deeper poverty also
Not quite so fast. Contrary to Estern Europe, Russia has resources and no IMF-style austerity dictat.
It has no technology to convert resources to finished products
It has to export them, then import finished products made with its energy
You seem like you are positive about this.
Just to let you know, Russia has plenty of manufacturing. It really isn't hard to look it up. They make: Agriculture equipment, construction equipment, semiconductors (processors, MRAM, DSP cores, PCB's), Household and business products (Refridgerations as example, TV's, furniture), Automobiles of various kinds, aeroplanes, agricultural, etc.
Russia isn't really what you think it is. Nor do you have much info of it if you truly believe this.
Sdelanounas
I'm sure you are about to move to Moscow
Well, that really doesn't prove anything wrong in what I said. Like I said, go through the link. You will be pleasantly surprised what they do produce.
Here is the manufacturing section: http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/?id=106
Edit: But if you want to know, I am quite interested into moving to Russia. I already have a friend in Irkutsk who runs a small IT company (HPC's, game servers, datacenter rental equipment) and I could obtain a job from him. I would make a decent living over their, and with the sale of my home here in Canada, I could live quite well. Problem is, my wife is not from either Canada or Russia, and wouldn't be able to communicate with anyone, as well as now most of my family is here (after leaving Ukraine).
Yeah. They are really backward. They send astronauts to the stupid Space Station waste of money. They make the only reliable heavy lift rocket engines. Their missiles are the best in the world by far. They have some of the best computer programmers in the world.
Russia is advancing while Europe is turning into Greece/Pakistan and the USA is turning into Trayvonville with simmering racial hatred and open borders. Russia is getting better while the USA and Europe are sinking.
Idiots.
nop i'm agree, all famous hackers are russians. look closer.
best chess player, russians... military stuff, russian.
do not underestimate russia because in the past your country was against it.
be adult enough to overpass this idiotic feeling of protecting what you living in and spit on all day long. be lil more smart and wise on your attitude...
Best Physicists.
Russians are highest world umiversity graduates 54% of Rus hold degrees
Look TopCoder rankings Russians 20 to 30 of top 50 normally.
Petr M. still #1
Chines in ranking more lately.
Even more Poles than Americans.
But you said different things here, you are such a troll
What is the weather like in Moscow?
Here in Toronto it sucks by the way
it's not about weather or nationality, it's about you and your lie - one post contract will materialized and another post contract will not materialized. You don't have any proof for your claims, so it's mean you are simply lying. You can't admit it that i caught you in this lie, and it's make you even more stupid right know.
read my bio
I am stupid
ok=)
Yes, you are. Here, we both agree...
ekm1 "I am stupid" Giving yourself way too much credit. More like a complete and total disingenuous Eastern Asshole and Douche Bag.
i dont see why you respond to him, speakign to a fool never made him more smart... a monkey, remain a monkey, just like a stone remain a stone, whatever you are sculpting it any form you want.
period.
Weather sucks in T-Town Eh? This time of year? Really? Nahhh.
These pipelines offer more than just economic incentive.
Lately, they are a reason for instigation of and a magnet for conflict.
Lastly:
Linear Infrastructure such as Pipelines, Transmission Lines, Rail Lines...
Basically any type of LoC (Line of Communication) are notoriously easy to attack.
This is due to the fact that they are extremely expensive to protect. Infeasably so.
Once serious conflict begins, pipelines will make very easy targets for any type of guided munition due to their static nature.
They will also almost certainly be subject to acts of sabotage as well, potentially by either side depending on circumstance.
But that is my fiction.
Speaking of weather, isn't there a frozen conflict in Azerbaijan?
That's because you live in Scarberia.
EKM isn't a troll. He just is anti-Putin. That's his right. He posts great stuff too.
Now Azerbaijan will be free to buy those two Minstrals a win win
S/
You don't even recognize a Jew, if you shake someone's hand, do you?
Christian Orthodox. Church goer, actually.
Easily distracted, eh?
"Azerbaijan is in the pocket of NATO."
Russia just signed an agreement with Azerbaijan (among others) on the deployment of military forces on the Caspian Sea.
The Shanghai Cooperation Organisation or SCO or Shanghai Pact is a Eurasian political, economic and military organisation which was founded in 2001 in Shanghai by the leaders of China,Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Russia, Tajikistan, and Uzbekistan.
India curently an observer State in SCO, has applied and has been granted full membership. India will join in 2015.
The funniest thing that all of them trust Putin, just Putin don't trust west and they hate him
I'm not seeing many outside the West who claim not to trust him. Even those in the West must grudgingly admit he does what he says he's going to do, even if they don't like what he does.
Reminder: South Stream was already signed on also. But, you know, just cancelled.
Lots of signatures means nothing
Putin didn't change that arrangement, the EU did.
Of course
No, seriously. I'm reading the same article you are. Tell me where it's factually incorrect and maybe I'll see it from a new perspective. Leverage was applied to a small country where that pipoeline was to make landfall and be connected into the European distribution grid. What's he going to do? Build the pipeline up to 6 miles off shore and just leave it there, attached to nothing?
The EU shut it down. He went with "Plan B" which might actually be a better alternative than "Plan A" from a political perspective, if not from an economic one.
HE JUST DROVE A SMALL WEDGE IN BETWEEN NATO AND THE EU, if you think about it. He threaded the needle, worked the seams between zone coverage (feel free to insert your favorite sports defense analogy) but he's getting it done, bypassing Ukraine depite all obstacles thrown in his way.
What is easier?
Controlling Putin who controls the taps or controlling Aliyev who controls the taps?
Aliyev is easier.
What happened to ekm? As in, before ekm1?
Ha-ha-ha. ekm1 still be ukies paid internet troll from Tronto, as he always was. This is the sole reason why he gone so mad. The brilliant deal with Turkey kills ukrainian gas pipeline and Ukraine itself.
Ignore the trolls.
send him free ticket to fergusson, folks will have good use of such present.
your words contradict oneself
Pipes are being laid on the ground. Unless Putin snatches Aliyev from USA's control, it will be over soon
come back to reality
Reality:
South stream cancelled
Trans adriatic pipeline under way
Putin lost this battle
That is reality
ekm,
To be cryptic is cute, but behind the cuteness there has to be substance, otherwise it's boring.
You want substance?
Fine.
Try becoming member of elite. Only there you see the actual real information.
South Stream construction started Dec 7 2012.
http://www.gazpromexport.ru/en/projects/6/
Sometimes sheople's reality is a little bit fucked up, eh?
I don't know about this. From the TAP website timeline:
2015: First construction works scheduled to begin on Albanian roads and bridges to access future pipeline construction sites.
2016: Start pipeline laying.
2015-2019: Final contract award, pipeline construction.
Looks like it's close to starting to be built. But no more actually built than the others we're discussing.
Only Aliyev can kill it, nobody else.
US congress is dealing with all Aliyev's needs very carefully
Nobody except for Xi Junping, Dilma Roussef, Modi, Fernandez, Erdogan and the leaders of Vietnam, Bolivia, Uruguay, Hungary, Serbia, etc.
Oh and the majority of people in Europe. You should hear the average Joe on the street, completely disgusted by the E.U., for which they have only hatred.
I never praised EU. I always praised NATO, but never praised EU
NATO = USrael.
Israel is USA's guinea pig. If hypothetically middle east runs out of oil, Israel will be on its own and will be devoured by the arabs. Nobody would care.
As long as there is oil there, Israel is important.
And that is all about Israel's importance. Nothing else. Nobody cares about anything else but oil
Correct about Israel's existence relying on the presence of oil in the region.
That's why anyone with eyes are seeing the zionist's effort to turn The Ukraine into New Khazaria.
"As long as there is oil there, Israel is important."
Wrong, Israel is important as long as the Zionist have control of the U.S. Congress and the State Department through AIPAC and the Zionist Lobby. Oil is only of peripheral importance to the Israel Firsters. Without that fanatical support and control in the U.S., Israel is finished.
The zionists are working to turn Ukraine/Hungary into the new promised land. Look up New Khazaria.
As the ultimate parasite, they are highly adaptable.
The amount of evidence agains the whole semite argument became overwhelming, so they are coming out of the closet with the "yeah, we jews are not really semite, we are Khazarians, but even though Khazarians were pagan, we're still God's people, so you better keep bowing"
x
Banish them to Madagascar or the Falklands before they start the next series of World Wars.
You said nobody trusts Putin.
Whatever alternative Europe may have, will have to pass from Turkey. That is precisely why Putin and Miller went there and offered a discount to Turkey. Turkey now has all the power to force Europe to accept the new Russian pipeline. Greece which is traditionally strongly pro-Russian will be more than eager to further the project. Putin has just kicked Brussels/Obama/Nato hard in the nuts.
Yea right.
Erdogan has billions of his own made from afghanistan heroine trade which are deposited in european banks. That money could vanish easily
Greece? Remember civil war?
Remember Nagorno-Karabakh?
Oh and TAP also goes through Georgia.
Yes YOU Sir are correct and what's more, The Greeks as a whole, lost that war and the West won it, or Better the Agglo-Americans with their German Collobaratos to be precise.
But lets hope the Greeks wake the fuck up.
no way, this sodomit country is lost between feta and oliv oil in the ass. what the fuck you want to do with greeks...
greeks are to the EU what the mexican are to the usa, a nice destination for hollydays , spending money in luxury tourists trap , nice beachs, otherwise, fucked up place, nothing to do.
http://en.itar-tass.com/economy/764564
The signed agreement is not only for 63BCM pipeline, as well as a 6% price deduction and other agreements on nuclear.
Turkey wants to also boost trade to $100B by 2020
Ankara proposes free trade with customs union
In the end, Turkey is quite angry regarding about EU's position on Turkey, and this is just a way to counter that. As of recent, Turkey has had a growing concern over Israel and has also grown to have distaste for US since US's position on Israel, add to that, they have denounced Turkey more than once recently.
Regardless, Turkey will of course do what its best interest is. Thing is, Azerbaijan is just one place to get gas from, but not final. China gets a lot of gas from Turkmenistan, but signed and currently getting (with more in the future) gas from Russia. It is just another method of gaining new customers.
Believe it or not, Turkey is one of the larger foreign investors in Russia. Majority of Russian malls and Hotels are run by Turkish companies. Turkey is looking to further boost this trade.
Your tap is fuck all
10 - 20 billion cubic metres per annum at its maximum discharge (wikipedia)
gazprom to build new pipeline instead of south stream.the pipeline will have an annual capacity of 63 billion cubic metres which a total of 14 billion will be delivered to turkey and the rest for southern europe.
http://rt.com/news/210511-russia-turkey-gas-pipeline/
do your homework before writing here
Numbers are essential. TAP could deliver only 10 bn (20 if things are going well) meters while Nord Stream is designed to deliver ~80 bn (60+ for EU and 15+ for Turkey).
Azeris are to be trusted even less than Turks....
Ha! Russia goes around US and EU blockage and peels off a supposed western ally in the process.
Does this man Putin ever sleep? He works harder than the mighty John Henry.
(Compare and contrast with Obama. Talk amongst yourselves.)
Does this man Putin ever sleep? - We doesn't know=)
King Obama has this! Even now he's busily plotting his master stroke against St.Pooty with his new Ebola Czar (for some reason).
The man never tires! ;-)
Putin - Gonna die with his hammer in his hand.
oBummerweasel- Gonna die with his jammer in his hind.
So Obama takes it up the ass. That's a positive-right? Show he's open minded, lacking in homophobic prejudice -a 21st century globalist Renaissance man. -So he likes male organs as much or more than female organs. Does that mean he is necessarily a weak leader? In this day and age, do we still cling to narrow minded prejudices and prejudge men who just so happen to enjoy and find fulfillment from experiencing the pleasures of another man's cock? Is Putin really a better man and stronger leader because he is a he-man, who loves and is loved by women, emanates power and traditional manly virtues, supports old fashioned valkues as traditional family, God and love of his native Russia?
No.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
Good luck getting another cock pregnant! :>D
I seem to recall Obama pleding during the '08 presidential campaign that he would never take a vacation. It was beneath the presidency to do so. I think he also said he would give up sex and wear a hair shirt - like St Thomas Moore. That was before Reggie Love entered the picture.
is their a competition of who can be the Dumbest poltician in europe,you have these bulgarians,the ukrainians and that polish minister who did a youtube clip about polish apples
putin advises the bulgarian leadership to seek 400 million dollars a year for compensation to the european commision that is lost through gas transit.
putin also gives turkey a 6% discount on its gas
http://rt.com/business/210483-putin-russia-gas-turkey/
400 million dollars of free money.just for transit
public finances of bulgaria 2013 = revenue 20.13 billion us dollars ,revenue = 21.63 billion us dollars. so thats a deficit of 1.5 billion us dollars a year (wikipedia)
The silence from the global warming crowd is absolutely deafening ;-)
I think thats cause of the severe Kondratieff winter we are in...
The Agenda 21 cat is out of the bag. The only people still squawking about "global warming" are self-important disciples of certain Charles Manson-esque media personalities.
The Turkey gass pipeline will take years to build. Russia and Europes passing gass problems are today.
Erdogan backing a Syrian strike with US, and now forming currency trade agreement with Russia.
There is no plan, these psychopaths are just trying to stay alive.