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Close Encounter Between NATO F-16 And Russian MiG-31 Caught On Tape

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Once upon a time, the only place where a western fighter jet could come within meters of a Russian MiG was on Top Gun.

 

However, according to a video released earlier today by the Norwegian Armed Forces, that is no longer the case.

In the clip, a Russian MiG-31 "suddenly cut in front of one of two Norwegian aircraft sent up by NATO to intercept Russian aircraft in international airspace north off Norway. “What the hell,” says the Norwegian F-16 pilot in the video, as he dodges the MiG-31 passing him at a distance estimated to be closer than 20 meters (65 feet)."

According to the WSJ, the release of the video on Sunday follows a series of publications by Norwegian defense authorities regarding encounters with Russian aircraft this year, and it marks another sign of escalating concern among North Atlantic Treaty Organization allies over Moscow’s increased military activity.

The Norwegians are angry:

Norwegian Armed Forces spokesman Brynjar Stordal declined to say when the incident occurred, but said close calls such as this are rare. “We could have had a collision between the aircraft,” he said. “The pilot has a spontaneous reaction in the video, and both his comment and the evasive maneuver indicate that this is unwanted … We don’t know if this was a mistake by the Russian pilot, or a sign of a more aggressive behavior by the Russians.”

Or perhaps it was just aggressive behavior by Norway? After all, the Norwegiansdecided to intercept the Russian aircraft in international airspace on behalf of NATO.

It is now a provocation to fly in "international airspace"? Actually, it isn't. "“I don’t think there’s a special need for worry, but we are of course monitoring the activity,” Minister of Defense Ine Eriksen Søreide said in an emailed statement. Ms. Søreide said it was legitimate for the Russian military to exercise, also in international airspace, but that “Russia, like everyone else, must abide with international aviation laws and regulations. It is unacceptable that Russian planes create dangerous situations in European airspace….”

Wait a minute, according to that clip, it was the Norwegian behind the Russian not the other way around. And last we checked with any insurance company, it would have been the Norwegian's fault if a "dangerous situation" was created. Sadly, it increasingly appears that NATO's only motivation these days is to create as many "dangerous situations" involving Russia, as possible, with hope that one of them finally escalates into more than just jawboning. After all, one can't stimulate plunging "Keynesian" GDP with mere harsh words or John Kerry-esque "diplomacy."

 

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Tue, 12/02/2014 - 14:46 | 5509468 So Close
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Putin:   I would like to take Ukraine back.....

US: Negative ghost rider the pattern is full.

Putin: Watch this!

US: Commence operation, "Tank Oil."  We can take it one day longer than you can.

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 14:51 | 5509482 Latina Lover
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I doubt that Putin wants the Ukraine, an essentially useless, bankrupt country controlled by crazies.  Without Crimea and the Donbass, the remainder of the Ukraine is a huge liability to Russia, a tar baby best to the EU. 

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 14:54 | 5509506 Pinto Currency
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Ram the nose of the F-16 up the Mig's tail pipes and blame the Russians for tapping the brakes.

Call it the Gulf of Nonsense incident.

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 14:56 | 5509540 angel_of_joy
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The Norwegian pilot must be some sort of hot shot idiot who didn't know that half the structure of a Mig-31 is made out of steel (welded). Too bad he didn't get a bit closer, it would have looked like a Prius raming into a F-150 from behind...

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 15:04 | 5509599 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Njorwegian pilot had a pantload of lutefisk to clean out after landing.

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 15:16 | 5509651 Keyser
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So NATO whines to the MSM that their feelings got hurt... Grow a pair or STFU... 

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 15:17 | 5509671 pods
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And that boys and girls is why you NEVER, EVER, leave your wingman.

pods

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 15:24 | 5509699 zerozulu
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interesting thing is even they shoot down each others plane, there will be no war between them.

US fights with defenseless countries.

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 15:34 | 5509752 0b1knob
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THis type of Top Gun dick measuring could easily result in a jumbo jet being accidently shot down.

Oh wait....

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 16:08 | 5509922 SWRichmond
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Norway = Arctic = message.

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 16:30 | 5510029 Day_Of_The_Tentacle
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Video evidence of anything, where the sound is cut and the film is clipped in the middle, should be taken with a grain of salt. He did say the equivalent of "what the hell" before the sound was cut, though.

So Nato lapdog vassals - if you want to get populist sympathy from your own peeps on your patriotic intercept activity - start by releasing unedited clips please. And while you are at it - do release the pictures you have from your secret bird the day MH17 was shot down - unedited - highres - with release of your documented analysis of the event - pronto.

Until you do that - you can go and play on the tracks of a busy railroad. You have zero credibility left among people in the west, who have respect for integrity and honesty. At the moment you amount to nothing more than asswipes in ties and stars. Shame on you! 

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 15:37 | 5509764 taraxias
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This was a mistake by the Russian pilot my ass. The Russians are getting tired of NATO bullshit and they are sending a signal. I hope the US and NATO leadership finally clues in that this isn't going to be "shock and awe" dropping bombs on the heads of muslims living in the third world countries. The Russians are tough motherfuckers when it comes to defending motherland, just ask the Nazis. 

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 15:44 | 5509803 DutchR
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Radar (strike that) www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpWmlRNfLck  (Edwin Starr)

 

And they are all flying blind

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 16:15 | 5509954 Lore
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It's almost as if the Nazis are back, trying again.

Oh wait...

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 02:38 | 5511625 Freddie
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Who knew the Vice President and his coke head son Hunter were friends with real live Nazis.  I thought I read somewhere that Joe Biden had a pretty close connection to a murder of some guy in Delaware.   This happened many years ago.

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 16:17 | 5509959 silvermail
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Russian army began to receive the latest Russian MANPADS "Willow", which are superior to any existing MANPADS in the world, including the outdated US Stinger MANPADS.
http://www.rg.ru/2014/11/28/kompleks-site.html

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 16:27 | 5510007 Volkodav
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Russians are Masters of Propulsion

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 21:35 | 5511016 Freddie
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Russia's Kornet and Metis anti-tank missiles were used to great effect when Israel made the mistake of going into Lebanon in 2006.

The Kornets popped open the Merkava's like beer cans. The IDF left Lebanon very quickly after that. Israel told Putin that he cannot sell them after the war.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzVEduKGUws

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 21:40 | 5511035 Freddie
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Here is the Willow in English.  It 'ain't" pretty like some Russian stuff but it is really effective.

http://www.armamentresearch.com/9k333-verba-manpads-now-in-service-with-...

I do love the look of many Russian naval ships and their newest fighters are really great looking and deadly.

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 16:27 | 5510003 Volkodav
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Russians can be very clever..

and not scared of much

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 18:15 | 5510477 Pickleton
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US fights with defenseless countries.

 

Of course you meant, aside from basically every war from the Revolution to Vietnam...

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 15:46 | 5509813 DetectiveStern
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The Russians will know exactly what reaction they will get, they know what fighters will be sent, they know how many fighters will scamble etc

 

If the West is seriously taken by suprise by these Russian training missions then I'm not looking forward to the War.

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 15:46 | 5509808 Grinder74
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How do you say "What the hell" in Norwegian?

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 16:23 | 5509988 Lore
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Recording is fuzzy, but it might be "jÊvela Helvete" (fucking hell)

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 17:39 | 5510314 _ConanTheLibert...
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Definitely helvete haha.

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 17:55 | 5510360 noben
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Although I'm not familiar with MIGs, it is plain as day that the Russian plane was not a fighter plane, but a transport plane.

Note also that the Russian plane was at about 1:00 relative to the Norwegian fighter that was tailing it, and outside the HFOV (Horizontal Field of View) of the fighter's HUD.  Only when the transport plane turned slightly left towards the Norwegian, did the latter roll his plane.  But note that the Norwegian rolled toward the Russian plane (not away from it, as safety would demand).  When a car veers into your lane, you veer away and not toward the vehicle in front.  Note that only when he rolled the plane, does the FOV of the HUD increase enough to see the Russian plane in the HUD (and its camera).

Based on the "Preponderance of Evidence", I have to conclude:

i. The Norwegian fighter was tailing the transport and then at a provocative and unsafe distance -- given that both are in International air space, not Norwegian or "European" space.

ii. Small craft (be it planes or ships) have to yield to large craft.  That's international law in shipping and aviation.

iii. The Norwegian was pretexting (faking the alarm), given that the correct response for him would have been to roll away from the Russian (counter-clockwise roll), not roll toward him (clockwise roll).  Had the Norwegian fighter rolled away, the Russian plane would not have come into the FOV of the Norwegian's HUD and its camera, i.e. there would not have been this staged "provocative footage".

Given the flaky and one-sided analysis, this is pure Norwegian and WSJ propaganda.  FOX News would be proud, if they had the footage.  Even so, they will air it, if that's what Mr. Murderoch wants.

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 19:32 | 5510719 SnobGobbler
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very accurate! i may also add the nor-wedge-ian appears to have simply flown into the jetwash of the offending russian transport; that tells me they are pussies and this is shitty propaganda.

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 00:39 | 5511493 Volkodav
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Can you provide link to video?

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 02:44 | 5511631 Freddie
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My guess is the Russians were escorting a Russian cargo plane.  Or the cargo plane was flying and the F-16s were getting to close.  The MiG-31 was dispatched, showed up and decided to make sure the F-16s were not bullying the cargo plane.

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 04:30 | 5511688 Lore
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@ Volkodav: Click on the no. 2 image at the top of this page to start video playback. Rgds

I'm not wholly convinced that it isn't a fighter. More importantly, it's a really lousy video, insufficient basis for finger-pointing of any kind.  If WSJ wasn't marked for a crap outfit, it is now.

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 14:57 | 5509541 Againstthelie
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sent up by NATO to intercept Russian aircraft in international airspace north off Norway.

 

What the hell is the neighbour doing in his living room, when I am there to inspect it?!

Chutzpah!

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 15:01 | 5509581 DogSlime
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From everything I have read and played on sim games, the Norwegian pilot should be more worried if the MiG-31 was behind him.  Having the MiG in front of him (and all his forward-facing weaponry) doesn't seem particularly threatening.

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 15:06 | 5509605 Againstthelie
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And how could NATO release a video then?

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 15:07 | 5509620 DogSlime
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GoPro on a selfie-stick?

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 15:49 | 5509838 Captain Willard
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Did you notice the Air Speed indicator on the left side of the Nor. pilot's HUD?

It appears to read 275 knots. Not exactly Top Gun stuff, although I never get closer than editing training plans for US NavAir. 

This hardly seems like a particularly dangerous move by the MiG. We all need to avoid the incessant stream of propaganda from the MSM trying to create trouble between NATO and the Russians.

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 16:24 | 5509989 Volkodav
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Slow Norwegie was practicing his Cessna moves..

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 15:59 | 5509882 robertsgt40
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"The Norwegians are angry"--Tuff shit! You never should've hooked your wagon to US foreign policy(intervention).   

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 02:48 | 5511638 Freddie
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Norwegians angry?  F them.  The Swedes and Norwegians are all getting angry and are acting like total arseholes along with the Finns over Putin hatin.  You never here shit from these people.

Maybe they should worry about the leftist NWO ZATO politicians in their countries flooding muslims and Africans into Scandinavia thanks to Soros, ZWO and ZATO.   Anders Brevik said at his trial that Oslo is now an emerging islamic hell hole of crime.

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 14:57 | 5509551 Creepy A. Cracker
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Russia is a huge liability to Russia.

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 15:01 | 5509570 Againstthelie
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And Israel is the USA's blessing!

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 15:07 | 5509616 Againstthelie
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Sorry for my anti-Judaism. Ofcourse it must read:

And Israel is the world's blessing!

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 18:28 | 5510483 noben
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Yes, we must count our Blessings, as shown in this YT clip: "Thanks, Jews!

Although, in the interest of academic accuracy and objectivity, one must differentiate between Jews and Zionists (as we would between Americans and Neocons), as flagged by these anti-Zionist Jews:  Jews Against Zionism And Rothschilds.

That being said, I take it that the authors of "Thanks, Jews" refer to Zionist Jews that we owe soooo much.

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 15:22 | 5509696 August
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Exactly. 

Thanks to the tight relationship between Israel and The Creator, all Americans will go to heaven.   It's a real blessing.

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 15:42 | 5509786 reTARD
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JewSA! JewSA! JewSA! ;-)

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 17:14 | 5510220 GoldSilverBitcoinBug
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Let's the Chosen people guide us to the light.

Amen.

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 15:08 | 5509619 Volkodav
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Stupid post of the day.

 

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 15:08 | 5509628 Creepy A. Cracker
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Of course all those who disagree are welcome to move to the paradise known as Russia.  Why stay in the partially socialized U.S. when full blown socialism/communism is available to you?  Free health care!!!

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 15:26 | 5509709 angel_of_joy
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I seriously doubt that Russia is more socialist than America nowadays... Among other things, the Russians have a flat income tax of 13%. Americans could only dream at that.

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 15:53 | 5509858 Volkodav
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The Heritage Foundation

Russia's Flat Tax Miracle

http://www.heritage.org/research/commentary/2003/03/russias-flat-tax-miracle

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 18:15 | 5510478 BlindMonkey
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Plus, they are going the other way on gun rights by allowing carry for self defense.

They are on the ascendancy of personal liberties.

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 18:16 | 5510479 BlindMonkey
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Plus, they are going the other way on gun rights by allowing carry for self defense.

They are on the ascendancy of personal liberties.

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 16:13 | 5509944 SilverDOG
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Creepy A. Cracker

 

 

Stop giving yourself the green arrow.

That is so Russian !    sarc/

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 17:18 | 5510233 GoldSilverBitcoinBug
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Russia have no tax on inheritance, 13% flat tax, 20 % corporation, 9 % on dividend (in some condition can go down to 0).

Not so bad for a communist country...

Meanwhile in the "free" US and Europe...

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 17:41 | 5510329 Sandmann
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Russia isn't Communist; China is

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 17:51 | 5510366 123dobryden
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plus russia has oil income which in her case is a tax as well

 

meanwhile we come to conlusion that both fuckers are kinda similar in their share

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 23:22 | 5511334 Freddie
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Russia has been a Christian country for over 1,000 years.  Communism and evil was imported into Russia by dual citizens from New York City and Europe and they were not Christian.  The same people now run America.

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 00:32 | 5511483 Volkodav
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In the Shadow of Hermes   Juri Lina    English Subtitles

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIuW-vNQsQI

 

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 16:07 | 5509912 SWRichmond
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I doubt that Putin wants the Ukraine, an essentially useless, bankrupt country controlled by crazies.  Without Crimea and the Donbass, the remainder of the Ukraine is a huge liability to Russia, a tar baby best to the EU.

+1.  Most of the wealth of Ukraine is in the East and North.

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 16:38 | 5510049 DogOfSinope
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And, according to their central bank report from mere few days ago re. their gold reserves - in the USA. :-)
"It's safe here. Keep up the good work! Move along! Oh, and don't get killed by Russians. We'd hate to have no one left to return this gold to. Hehe..."

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 16:20 | 5509982 Volkodav
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President Putin basically told that many times.

Russia want neighbor of brother country. Normal

not ugly deviant eurofags and Red Oligarchs owning Ukrainians as slaves

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 16:46 | 5510096 therearetoomany...
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deviant eurofags....LMFAO, we must attack twitter now, make it trend!  

 

#devianteurofags

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 18:06 | 5510435 Volkodav
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description fits.....see Eurovision contest winner for example..

if you don't know what I refer to,you have to search it yourself... I won't go there....

 

vs Russia:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fN5mlTmaCws

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 23:32 | 5511358 Freddie
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Were all living in (Obola's) Amerika. 

Coca Cola, Wunderbar.

Were all living in Amerika

Coca Cola, sometimes war

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fw9F0lhC09E

These wacky East Germans look more like what Americans used to look like.   Their songs are loaded with profound satire. Ich Will is about how the news media and TV glorifies violence and murderers.

And  another thing about Russia.  The Russian could have been real pricks about the fall of the wall and Eastern Europe and they pretty much quietly left.  They never got credit for being very decent about it.  Bush Sr gave his word about NATO not encroaching on Russia and they lied.  America's word is worthless.

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 05:40 | 5511730 therearetoomany...
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what's up with the chick with the beard....

Youtube, the russian chicks are very hot (your lin)

 

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 16:52 | 5510122 alangreedspank
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He only wants the 12 months deep sea port part of it, I agree.

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 14:51 | 5509497 quintago
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F-16 surprised by a magically appearing MiG 200 feet away. So much for cutting edge radar. That's not a good sign.

 

I think I saw the Russian clip somewhere to. The pilot was quoted as saying: "On your six, bitch"

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 14:52 | 5509518 HowdyDoody
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From day one, Putin clearly stated that Russia would be happy with a united, federalized, neutral Ukraine. Thanks to the US-supported Nazis, the first option is out of the question until the Nazis are dealt with.

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 14:55 | 5509535 Hamm Jamm
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communist death cult on one side ... and nazis on the other

Fuck them both !!!

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 15:03 | 5509583 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Communist death cult and nazis on one side, Russians on the other.

Fixed it for you free of charge. Keep your potato.

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 15:33 | 5509708 fooshorter
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AWW SHIT, LOOKS LIKE THE RUSSIAN CIRCLE JERK IS BACK ON ZH! 

oOOOO PUTIN is STRONG, 

HAHAH Norway fighters are inept

hAhahah were not NAZI ZIONST NWO.

MFW when Russians kill each other in droves through dictatorship and are proud to live as 2nd world nation beating its chest.

I look forward to your downvotes...

 

EDIT:  Putin is a brilliant leader who has managed to stay in power by crushing any challenges on the russian political landscape. russia can barely fight over ukraine and gerogia while the NWO war machine can invade and occupy an entire region! You don't think Putin is playing his cards well!? The real war is happening in the markets. Its all an economic war until one side gets fed up and the real fireworks begin!!

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 15:35 | 5509761 Volkodav
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useless talkings

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 15:40 | 5509785 fooshorter
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 thanks for playing... next

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 16:18 | 5509963 Volkodav
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da

we expect you won't leave yet.....

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 17:27 | 5510269 fooshorter
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My point's been made, youve played my game. Have a nice day wolf crusher.

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 16:17 | 5509964 SilverDOG
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The conflict is far beyond, what you are fixated upon.

Not all conflicts are chest beating and gun swingin' fooshorter.

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 15:13 | 5509646 Freddie
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LOL!  With Obola Town, Ferguson and Trayvonville on the USSA side.  

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 14:52 | 5509523 insanelysane
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Exactly!  I call fucking bullshit to the story.  How can the MIG sneak up on you to 65 feet with radar systems that pick up planes miles away?  Did the pilots goggles fog up or did his red baron scarf get in his face?

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 15:04 | 5509606 Volkodav
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See about USS Cook in Black Sea a few weeks back.

 

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 15:44 | 5509800 reTARD
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You mean the USS Donald "Duck" which then promptly went to port in Bulgaria and a number of sailors quit the Navy.

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 16:09 | 5509927 DogOfSinope
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In a real confrontation it would quickly become the USS Colender.

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 18:17 | 5510488 Sages wife
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Must have been the same radar operator that was tracking MH 370.

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 18:54 | 5510607 Maxter
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The incident is half a rumor and half true it seems, but for what it is worth, here is a link about what might have happened:

http://immortaltoday.com/khibini-m-jammer-blinded-aegis-destroyer/

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 03:30 | 5511656 bid the soldier...
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Everybody knows that the wholesale jamming of radar and satellite communications is the penultimate weapon in the quivers of adversarial nations.

Why is the report of the incident on the Black Sea half rumor/half true?  It could be all rumor or all true.

Nobody here was there.  Only the Russian pilots and the American sailors.

And now some wishful thinking on both sides.

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 15:26 | 5509710 zerozulu
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Mock fight!

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 15:54 | 5509860 FinalEvent
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Maybe you just don't turn on mililtary radar when you are in close prosimity with another (big) aircraft?

I mean, radar radiation could be dangerous.

Also, it could be that radar was distorted by the plane which was followed?

But on the other hand, awacs should know...

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 16:45 | 5510053 Lore
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Re: "Radar radiation could be dangerous."

Yeah, it would be ridiculous to actually install a radar system ONBOARD the aircraft.  /DERP

More likely scenario is that the Russian pilot - in int'l airspace - was well aware of his pursuer and demonstrated great restraint, showing that he didn't give a damn. 

Third scenario, less likely: Russian saw the Norwegian pilot coming, cut his speed and deliberately plotted an intercept course that brought him directly in front of the Norwegian plane. Either way, it's just a silly video and an embarrassment to the Norwegian for allowing the situation to unfold as it did.  If the Norwegian doesn't have trouble with his eyesight, he at least demonstrated poor judgement worthy of a reprimand.  Release of the video just seems like a very stupid move by that government.

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 03:17 | 5511652 bid the soldier...
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Norway didn't want to release the video.

Nuland told them they had to.

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 14:56 | 5509546 aleph0
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Sounded like the F16 pilot was half asleep.

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 15:38 | 5509769 Frank N. Beans
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you can just about hear him snoring

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 16:05 | 5509907 Dapper Dan
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No, I think he spilled his Lutefisk on his lap.

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 14:58 | 5509557 Againstthelie
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If you believe that jet videos are public domain and not released for certain intentions...

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 15:26 | 5509706 Freddie
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US defense contractors are so corrupt especially LBJ, Obama and McCain's AIPAC pals at General Dynamics.

Thank goodness at least the Norwegians were in F-16s, still a decent fighter.   It was co-design by Pierre Sprey, Col. Boyd (legend) and Col. Riccioni. 

If they were in F-35s then they might have caught on fire.

Pierre Sprey lambasting the F-35.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxDSiwqM2nw

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 15:48 | 5509819 Grinder74
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Is this where some dumbass celebrity holds up a little pin and says "We've got your Six"?

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 14:58 | 5509550 Payne
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Really looks like the Norwegian Pilot wasn't paying attention.  Russian MIG was not climbing, descending or turning.  The Norwegian probably had to report the incident as a near mid air and the cover story is Russian agression.

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 15:05 | 5509608 Gringo Viejo
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..."we don't know if it was a mistake by the Russian pilot"........

 

Stop it! You're killin' me!

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 15:14 | 5509650 Quinvarius
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If Russian troops were in the Ukraine, you'd know about it by now.  The one time some accidently crossed the border, unarmed, they were sent back to Russia.  What does that tell you?

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 23:52 | 5511406 Freddie
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The Russians would be in Kiev by dinner time and could be in Brussels in a few days.  I would hope the Ukies would wave at the Russians as the Russians would arrest the oligarch dual citizen murdering oligarchs in Kiev.  

Then they could go to Brussels and arrest the other scum at the EU HQ.  Europeans would probably cheer the Russians on.

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 00:31 | 5511473 Volkodav
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In the Shadow of Hermes   Juri Lina  Englsh subtitles

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIuW-vNQsQI

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 02:28 | 5511618 Freddie
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+1 million.  This is exactly what I thought.  I will watch tomorrow. I hope that all Russians know who inflicted the evil USSR on them.   It was not Christian Russians. 

Alexander Solzhenitsyn was an amazing man. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIpcW4xzdIw

http://www.boston.com/news/world/articles/2008/08/05/toward_end_solzheni...

MOSCOW - In the last years of his long and stubbornly contrarian life, Alexander Solzhenitsyn finally found a political system he could embrace: Vladimir Putin's Russia.

"Putin inherited a ransacked and bewildered country, with a poor and demoralized people," Solzhenitsyn told the German magazine Der Spiegel in a 2007 interview, when Putin was still president. "And he started to do what was possible, a slow and gradual restoration. These efforts were not noticed, nor appreciated, immediately. In any case, one is hard-pressed to find examples in history when steps by one country to restore its strength were met favorably by other governments."

For the former dissident, who returned in 1994 after 20 years in exile to a country whose raw capitalism and marauding tycoons horrified him, Putin became the country's savior.

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 00:31 | 5511474 Volkodav
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In the Shadow of Hermes   Juri Lina  Englsh subtitles

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIuW-vNQsQI

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 00:38 | 5511490 Freddie
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The Russians would be in Kiev by dinner time and could be in Brussels in a few days.  I would hope the Ukies would wave at the Russians as the Russians would arrest the oligarch dual citizen murdering oligarchs in Kiev.  

Then they could go to Brussels and arrest the other scum at the EU HQ.  Europeans would probably cheer the Russians on.

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 14:46 | 5509469 Latina Lover
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Yep, the NWO wants WW3

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 15:05 | 5509596 angel_of_joy
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They'll have it. And then, they'll lose it...

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 15:36 | 5509758 SmallerGovNow2
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Hey LL, i think i can speak for the majority of posters here and say that we would most definately like to get a closer look at your avatar....  :-D

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 15:48 | 5509822 Latina Lover
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You can find me working in Acapulco, Guerrero Gentlements Club.  Password is>  Benjamin Franklin loves Chupa.

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 17:59 | 5510403 raybies
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War is good for business, but like everything good for business, it's bad for the Earth.

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 20:53 | 5510905 angel_of_joy
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War is also very bad for your health...

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 14:46 | 5509470 dow jones 20000
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smile for the birdie!

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 14:51 | 5509488 HowdyDoody
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So the Norwegian was flying close behind the MiG (flying wings level), trying to get into its blind spot, and it is the fault of the MiG pilot?

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 14:49 | 5509490 Racking Horse
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Putin: "Tell Obola to sit on it and rotate it".

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 14:50 | 5509495 will ling
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saw this somewhere earlier. looks like it could just as easily be a video game.

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 14:49 | 5509498 alphamentalist
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europe: the cradle of culture, yogurt, cheese, VD, and world war

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 14:51 | 5509499 Ness.
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All Time Highs Bitchez!!!

 

 

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 14:50 | 5509500 JustObserving
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America has been demonizing Putin setting a stage for war with Russia.   Russia has been blamed for downing of MH17 and now the evidence does not backup that accusation, they are covering up the investigation:

Netherlands covers up secret pact controlling investigation of MH17 crash

 

By Alex Lantier 
22 November 2014

 

On Wednesday, the Dutch government invoked the state secrets privilege to stonewall queries by leading Dutch news magazine Elsevier on a secret pact controlling the investigation into the July 17 shooting down of Malaysian Airlines flight MH17 over war-torn east Ukraine.

What is known about the secret pact exposes the investigation into the destruction of MH17 and the killing of the 298 people aboard as a sham. In four months, despite receiving extensive data about the crash from pro-Russian separatist forces at the crash site, investigators have been unable to establish who and what precisely destroyed MH17. The investigation is not a probe to impartially establish how MH17 was destroyed, but a cover-up controlled by the far-right regime in Kiev and its backers in Washington, Berlin and other NATO states.

On August 29, the Dutch press revealed that a secret pact had been signed on August 7 by the countries in the official MH17 Joint Investigation Team (JIT): the Netherlands, Australia, Belgium, and the Ukrainian regime installed by February’s CIA-backed putsch in Kiev. According to Dutch state radio NOS, “Part of the agreement is that signatories retain control of the information they contribute. So they can veto disclosure of their own data.”

http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2014/11/22/mh17-n22.html

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 15:03 | 5509569 kchrisc
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"The magic missile" theory.

A missile launched from the ground at that time, and in that weather, would have left a very photogenic smoke/vapor trail that many thousands could, would, have seen and photographed.

Also, round entry and exit holes in the wreckage, not related to a close proximity detonation of a missile.

"If the pics don't fit, you must acquit."

An American, not US subject.

 

"The same wolves that blew down WTC7 and then huffed-and-puffed about Muslims, blew MH-17 from the air, and are huffing-and-puffing about Russia."

 

 

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 15:17 | 5509670 Rock On Roger
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I would say jackals rather than wolves.

 

ziojackals

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 15:05 | 5509600 kchrisc
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An international "Warren Commission."

LOL

An American, not US subject.

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 15:32 | 5509625 JustObserving
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Just like the 9/11 Commission - only lies.  Truth is treason in a fascist, police state.

The 9/11 Commission Report: A 571-Page Lie

In discussing my second 9/11 book, The 9/11 Commission Report: Omissions and Distortions, I have often said, only half in jest, that a better title might have been “a 571-page lie.” (Actually, I was saying “a 567-page lie,” because I was forgetting to count the four pages of the Preface.) In making this statement, one of my points has been that the entireReport is constructed in support of one big lie: that the official story about 9/11 is true. 

http://www.septembereleventh.org/newsarchive/2005-05-22-571pglie.php

Person who threw fake blood on NYC Commissioner is facing 225 years in prison.  If you like your police state, you can keep it.  If you don't, we will keep it for you.

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 16:50 | 5510114 kchrisc
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"Truth is treason in a fascist, police state."

Sort of funny when one realizes that the Constitution defines treason as "levying war against them," the people and/or states. While from the DC US' own pubs, they have defined "terrorism," their version of treason, as those that posses and/or demand the truth.

So those that know  or demand the truth about their treason, are "terrorists." I would expect nothing different from criminals.

An American "terrorist," not US subject.

 

I always inform people that all governmnet actions are about "money and power." This from the Patriot Act:

Seizure of assets - Sec. 806:  Section 806 of the Act could result in the civil seizure of their assets without a prior hearing, and without them ever being convicted of a crime.

See, it is NOT about "Terrorists," it is about taking our wealth for themselves.

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 14:51 | 5509503 Mike Masr
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WW3 would turn nuclear very quickly!!!

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 14:52 | 5509510 kchrisc
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The only real question is why are all of the "close encounters" not happening over or near Israel?

Answer: Greater Israel is willing to sacrifice as many Goy as necessary for their Lebensraum, pipeline, and water rights in Syria.

An American, not US subject.

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 14:51 | 5509511 Son of Captain Nemo
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Go Get'em Mav!

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 14:56 | 5509516 Bell's 2 hearted
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Close Encounters Of The Red Kind

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 14:52 | 5509520 Hamm Jamm
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another russian DUI !!

 

the answer is not at the bottom of the bottle ...  russians are a little slow to learn that

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 15:01 | 5509572 angel_of_joy
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Hamm Jamm

Member for 12 weeks 4 days

You do know that when you hit somebody from behind you are 100% at fault, don't you ? Oh well, just another trolling idiot...
Tue, 12/02/2014 - 16:43 | 5510084 Hamm Jamm
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and your just another Butthole for Putin ...  Up yours

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 20:57 | 5510910 angel_of_joy
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In your wet dreams, maybe... You're not only embarassingly stupid, but also lack manners.

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 00:14 | 5511436 Hamm Jamm
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Keep yappin O toothless one !       shillin shillin shillin for Putin ....    sh sh sh sh shaaaaa  shilllin   

oh yaaaaaah

so how much is pooty paying ya ...    nothing ...   no gag reflex ?  ah doin it for the freebees ..      you such a durdy Red

 

Hahahaha

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 17:04 | 5510164 optimator
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Did the F-16 get a lock-on?

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 17:53 | 5510371 Volkodav
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nyet  don't think so...

but pilot lost composure

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 15:28 | 5509726 Volkodav
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Average Russian is far quicker thinking than your inane posts show you...

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 16:28 | 5510005 Hamm Jamm
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even a russian baglicking shill like you drinks too much .. ...   Up yours Kocknocker

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 15:39 | 5509779 Dame Ednas Possum
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Hamm Jamm - did you earn that name laying on the shower floor like a bitch in prison while the boys ran a Hamm Jamm train on your arse?

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 16:24 | 5509993 Hamm Jamm
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nope...  just from jammin my hamm in your big mouth....    NEXT !

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 14:52 | 5509524 hmmmstrange
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If you intercept me i'm going to brake check you.

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 14:57 | 5509552 Catullus
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Wow. Mach 1 is 1100 ft/sec

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 15:35 | 5509762 Brutlstrudl
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the speed of a 22 long rifle bullet. or a jacked up 9mm

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 16:14 | 5509948 Volkodav
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Makorov

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 14:58 | 5509560 Bastiat
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It's like NATO and the west has been putting the squeeze on Russia or anything recently.  How much did Nuland brag about spending fomenting the overthrow of the constitutional government of Ukraine?  Was it $5bln?  And the cookie thing. 

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 15:38 | 5509775 oddjob
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They should put pressure on Russia to stop sending food to the ISS.

Oh, wait...

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 15:00 | 5509566 Budd aka Sidewinder
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'Hey Sweden!'

'It's Norway, Mack'

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 15:01 | 5509574 Infinite QE
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Russia so outguns the west in the electronic warfare department that most of those F-16's would be flying totally blind if and when TSHTF. Just like they buzzed that helpless Navy warship over and over and over a few months back.

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 15:06 | 5509612 Solarman
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How do you know?

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 15:22 | 5509647 Infinite QE
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Go look it up. Look at what they did to the Donald Cook warship a few months ago. Totally disabled their systems and left the panic stricken crew struggling to reboot the ziocode MSFT malware warfare system AEGIS as the bomber buzzed them over and over and over 12 times. The New Bolsheviks are looking to start a nuke war that will get us all killed.

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 15:58 | 5509868 Freddie
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I would love to know if that really happened.  The silence is deafening.  The part about crew members resigning sounded a bit off.   My guess is the Russians have some sort of localized EMP or they are able to create a worm or virus to shut things down. 

Knowing how corrupt ObolaLand Amerika and the US defense contractor crooks are - the AEGIS is probably a piece of shit like the F-35.   They were having a nightmare with the F-35s software and the Russians are very very good at software coding.

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 16:09 | 5509929 Volkodav
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TopCoder rankings...

http://community.topcoder.com/tc?module=AlgoRank

Petr Mitrichev still #1

http://community.topcoder.com/tc?module=MemberProfile&cr=10574855&tab=alg

Russians normally hold 20-30 of top 50 placings

Even Poles more than US few

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 00:03 | 5511422 Freddie
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The Russians are very good. This Petr guy must be out of this world.

Some eastern Europeans are good as well including Poles and Bulgarians plus Baltic countries, europeans and Scandinavians especially Finns.  Germans have some very good programmers.

The Russians are usually the best and they will tell you that daily.  ;-)

I have know lots of very good (white) American programmers also a good black American guy too. 

The Asians are good but often not creative.   Indians are not that good though the second best chess player in the world is Indian.

Americans need to realize how good Russians are because most weapons systems today rely HEAVILY on good software.

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 15:28 | 5509720 FeralSerf
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What frightened the USS Donald Cook so much in the Black Sea?

http://www.voltairenet.org/article185860.html

Tue, 12/02/2014 - 16:02 | 5509883 daveO
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Aegis jammed. Billions of US taxpayers' dollars flushed. 

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