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Grand Jury Fails To Indict White NYPD Cop; Protesters Block Roads, Tunnels In NYC, Multiple Arrests - Live Feed
Summing it all up in one photo...
It would appear NYPD has blacked out all webcams on the Westside Highway...
Literally nothing to see right now on the West Side Highway, please move on. pic.twitter.com/luIaidrWpS
— Barbarian Capital (@BarbarianCap) December 4, 2014
Live NY1 Coverage:
The politicians and 'leaders' have weighed in .@cbrangel on Garner decision: "This not a black problem. This is a problem we have in our great country." pic.twitter.com/d8go1o6cWA — CBSN (@CBSNLive) December 3, 2014 oh boy RT @JimDalrympleII: Sharpton is announcing a national march in Washington DC on Dec. 13. #EricGarner pic.twitter.com/oQDVubbMnx — Robert Caruso (@robertcaruso) December 4, 2014 * * * And so has Eric Garner's widow... Eric Garner's widow on accepting condolences of NYPD officer: "Hell no" http://t.co/kxsACRy9Ys pic.twitter.com/7VyutEjdjz — CBS News (@CBSNews) December 4, 2014 * * * Poilice are preparing at Grand Central (430pm protest planned) Cops gearing up for potential #ericgarner protest at Grand Central. pic.twitter.com/97viu0BKZr — Ivan Pereira (@IvanPer4) December 3, 2014 4:30 protest at Grand Central 5:00 Garner family int Times Sq. 7:00 Rockfeller Christmas tree 7:30 Garners & Sharpon in Harlem #EricGarner — Justin Miller (@justinjm1) December 3, 2014 Die in at Grand Central Station happening right now. #EricGarner pic.twitter.com/fV9NmJeNAY — ANIMALNewYork (@ANIMALNewYork) December 3, 2014 And protests are growing more active Demonstrators gather in Times Sq to protest Grand Jury decision not to indict cop over death of Eric Garner #NewYork pic.twitter.com/vwBVVoeEpX — Jon Williams (@WilliamsJon) December 3, 2014
First wave of protesters have arrived at Rockefeller Center #EricGarner pic.twitter.com/cFGsbJOQO5
— Dan Linden (@DanLinden) December 3, 2014
BREAKING - WEST SIDE HIGHWAY JUST FORCED CLOSED BY 1000 PROTESTERS AT 51 ST. http://t.co/xUsa7dnw8U #EricGarner #MikeBrown #Ferguson
— Breaking911 (@Breaking911) December 4, 2014
West Side highway right now. Via @DanLinden pic.twitter.com/zgi95ZPCzn WATCH LIVE - http://t.co/34Kxumqv3R
— PzFeed Top News (@PzFeed) December 4, 2014
NYPD making Brutal Arrests At 47th and 6th Ave. #EricGarner pic.twitter.com/qqNrjfQQnL
— Lnonblonde (@Lnonblonde) December 4, 2014
Protesters shut down West Side Highway at 49th. @ABC7NY #EricGarner pic.twitter.com/w8aeAD3y8i
— EverythingNYC (@EverythingNYC) December 4, 2014
Protestors on move, "shutem down, Christmas tree" #EricGarner heading for Rockefeller Center? pic.twitter.com/AlXtquDmGo
— Stephen Nessen (@s_nessen) December 3, 2014
The NYPD is cutting off train entrances, apparently in an attempt to prevent organized protests. #EricGarner pic.twitter.com/8TvYEFE6vx
— Terrell J. Starr (@Russian_Starr) December 3, 2014
Protests continue on the streets of New York City over the NYPD chokehold death of Eric Garner http://t.co/F3b7ZhMAXs pic.twitter.com/5uX8gOg4sm
— CBS News (@CBSNews) December 4, 2014
Loving my City @JohnGGalt: BREAKING PHOTO: Lincoln Tunnel shut down #EricGarner pic.twitter.com/MXwB9oSC6n”
— BEYNCEcallmeDVA (@BEYNCEcallmeDVA) December 4, 2014
And arrests made in St.Louis after courthouse barricades torn down...
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Cuomo Statement
JUST IN: Andrew Cuomo statement on #EricGarner pic.twitter.com/8CskjcNncY
— Breaking911 (@Breaking911) December 3, 2014
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A Staten Island grand jury has decided not to indict white NYPD officer Daniel Panateleo, according to NY1, who allegedly used a banned chokehold and killed Eric Garner, a 400lb black man, who was stopped on suspicion of selling loose cigarettes. Eric Garner's son has called for peace and hopes there is no Ferguson-like response...
This is the racial makeup of the #grandjury that declined to indict in the #EricGarner case pic.twitter.com/CAzTWAgoSG
— Anderson Cooper 360° (@AC360) December 4, 2014
Eric Garner:
Daniel Panteleo:
The scene...
The decision...
JUST IN: Cop cleared in Eric Garner chokehold death http://t.co/NJEQ568CEX pic.twitter.com/hoIjgQm49o
— New York Post Metro (@nypmetro) December 3, 2014
A New York City grand jury has decided not to indict the New York Police Department officer accused of killing a Staten Island man by putting him in an illegal chokehold. The NYPD is now preparing for more protests stemming from the decision.
Early Wednesday afternoon, CNN, the Wall Street Journal and the New York Post all reported that a grand jury declined to indict the officer.
Although the special grand jury declined to indict Daniel Pantaleo, the white officer accused of strangling Garner, who was black, the police department can still reprimand Pantaleo under a basic rule that loosely states if an officer does anything to embarrass the department, then they can be disciplined.
"It's sad if they take that position," Ed Mullins, president of the Sergeants Benevolent Association, told Staten Island Live. "I'd be surprised and a bit disappointed if he was used as a political pawn to appease the community."
The incident occurred on July 17, when at least five New York Police Department officers took 43-year-old Eric Garner, a Staten Island father of six, to the ground in an attempted arrest on Staten Island. One put Garner in a chokehold that caused Garner – who suffered from asthma – to lose consciousness and reportedly go into cardiac arrest. He was declared dead at a nearby hospital.
The Staten Island District Attorney’s Office convened the grand jury in September, but did not announced the list of potential charges against Pantaleo. But prosecutors outside the district told ABC News that the range could have included second-degree manslaughter, criminally negligent homicide, felony assault or reckless endangerment. Legal experts and former prosecutors had said that, despite the medical examiner’s ruling the death a homicide, murder charges were unlikely, the New York Times reported.
Garner's son...
“It’s not going to be a Ferguson-like protest because I think everybody knows my father wasn’t a violent man and they’re going to respect his memory by remaining peaceful,” Snipes said. “It’s not going to be like it was there.”
Let's hope so...
Police in New York City began preparing for potential protests before the grand jury decision was announced.
"We, as you might expect, are planning accordingly," New York Police Commissioner Bill Bratton said at a news conference on Tuesday.
Bratton did not reveal how many officers were placed out on the streets ahead of the announcement, but he said that officers have been told to walk a fine line between allowing the protesters to express their anger while keeping public order.
If they engage in criminal activity, such as vandalism ? actual crime ? they will be arrested, quite simply," he said. "But we have the ability to have a level of tolerance ? breathing room, if you will."
There are at least two different demonstrations planned in lower Manhattan Wednesday, including appearances of Parents Against Police Brutality and protesters who say they are taking a stand against "the criminalization of our communities and militarization of the local enforcement agencies," ABC News reported.
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Yup the new normal, avoid $5.85 in tax to the Fed`s and you get the death penalty, steal billions (like old Jaime D) and get a set of presidential cufflinks...................
It's another gov created black market. You can thank NYC progressives like Bloomberg.
Yep, and those cops pensions aren't cheap. Pay your taxes serf , and let the be a lesson to the rest of you. I still don't see enough evidence to indict the cop in ferguson, but come on, how is that not illegal. That had numerous former police officers on every channel talking about how using a choke hold like that is illegal, the only time you are allowed to use that is in a case where you are literally fighting for your life. That guy was what is known in LE parlance as an 'active resistor' which is what is defined as a subject who is offering physical resistance but makes no attempt to harm the officer. There is no reason it should have gotten to that point. Of course, if you allow your country to get to the point where it's acceptable to even bother someone for selling loose cigarettes, these things are bound to happen.
I feel for this guy, it's shameful. You can smoke pot openly on a NYC street and not get arrested. They had to arrest him for not paying taxes but it's not the policeman choice, he has to enforce the stupid laws given by our politicians. Not in defense of the cop but I heard the video shows he was not in an illegal choke hold but in a headlock. There's a legal difference.
Lets get ONE THING STRAIGHT. Cops DO NOT have to enforce all laws on the books. It's called discretion and common fuckin sense. Shit laws, like seat belts must be worn for adults,yet helmets are off for motorcyclist. Which should be a CHOICE anyway for both. Fuckin loose smokes being hustled and all this caused a innocent life over personal choice to sell loose smokes.Wait till one can't sell a box of ammo and gets fuckin raided.
I get that, If cops enforced all laws placed on the books over the years by statist politicains we'd all be in prison. When we give up our personal responsibility for a nanny state to protect us, this is the outcome. Why should an adult be forced to wear a seatbelt? For their own safety? BS, my car has airbags on every fucking side of me but people agree with these laws. Progressives will forever push the envelope to see how much they can get away with and they get away with murder under the guise of public safety. Don't forget that these cigarrette taxes and bans were widely supported by the general population.
FYI, just in case you might not be traveling alone. your bodyweight multiplies 30 to 60 times in case of a crash when traveling 30 mph which makes you heavier than an elephant.
on another note. the more there are laws and regulations, the less considering the fellow citizens are. just a personal observation. try to cross a 6 line crossing on foot at night when the traffic lights are off. no fucking driver will stop just because the traffic light doesn't say so, even though there's a zebra crossing. while on the 2 liner where there are no traffic lights at all but just a zebra crossing, 90% will stop and let you through even though you could easily pass few seconds later due to very light traffic at night.
disclaimer: i don't live in murica, so yes, it's possible to travel and live a full life without your personal carriage.
Did I miss something? Cop uses an illegal choke hold, guy says he can't breathe, guy dies, no charges.
Land of the free yo...
I don't care if he had a rap sheet, he wasn't being aggressive and he was telling police he couldn't breathe, shouldn't have been killed by cops, there was like 10 of them vs. 1.
Don't you know, cops can do whatever they want.--Officer Tony Baloney
Banzai, You're right. We don't need cops, I'm all for an olde school community vigilante justice system but I don't think you have the backbone for that.
Amok time, perchance?
Do you think that you have the backbone for that, Harbanger?
Just how prepared are you to go to war?
I was born for this, Brother.
Tom, Id bet on you vs the whorebanger. He might be sitting in langley in a cushy chair and all, but I'd lay odds he's just a fucking mouth with no backbone.
The guy wasn't killed over the smokes. He'd been arrested for that many times before. He was a known local character, repeater with 31 arrests.
This time he resisted arrest and died of a heart attack while being restrained.
Guy was a dumbass. Now he's a dead dumbass.
Media creates mountain out of molehill. It's good for the ratings.
You are a worthless piece of shit, dont need to go into details
The Nuremberg defense, he was just doing his job.
The Nuremberg defense, he was just doing his job.
No, no... we're at Nuremberg 2.0 now...
He was "following his training."
"emptied both clips on the kid. Thought he had a gun as he was running away. We just followed our training".
That murderer should be hung by his balls.
He feared for his life by being larded to death.
I saw this video.
This cop should have been indicted. This was a clear case of excessive force over a ridiculous stop, detention and harassment search (loose cigarettes).
How this all ties into race versus a general excessive force LE issue, I leave to individuals to decide.
A cop could walk up to a random baby in a pram shoot it in the face, piss on the corpse and rape the mother whilst being filmed in HD and still get away with it.
Way too many fuckin' cops are out of fucking control.
Time to break some shit in a meaningful way. Peaceful protest isn't sufficient in cases like this.
I am hesitant to endorse violence as a means to an end, but so long as the grounds for the violence are understandable AND justifiable, AND THE TARGETS OF THE VIOLENCE ARE LEGITIMATE ONES (i.e. Those causing the problem and perpetuating societal harm) ON MORAL, RATIONAL GROUNDS, then this is CONSISTENT WITH THE 'JUST WAR' THEORY.
Some times American Citizens need to reach down, make sure they have a pair, and get fucking mad, and extract a price.
Tree of Liberty.
See you in morgue buddy.
Something like...
Better to die on your feet, than to live on your knees.
Who said I wasn't meeting him corpse to corpse ;)
I love it when the internet LEOs get their panties in a wad, and start making internet threats, because it means a real, raw truthful nerve has been
exposed.
Fly, fly away, "Detective" Stern.
Fly, fly...
Or it could mean I agree with you
I misunderstood.
My bad.
Don't need any violence. Just park cars in a co-ordinated fashion at the choke points of the cities arterials (Washington DC would be great as it'd stop politicians getting to work) and bring the whole system to a halt.
No militarized police force can stop this. They are trained for violence, they are experts at violence, they will win in combat scenarios. Peaceful dissent is something they are thoroughly ill-equipped to deal with. Bring a city to it's knees all with a few parking offences.
We have the power but lack the courage. We have been trained well by society, hen pecked with fear by religion. It's the oilgarchs and psycopaths perfect world. They have a boot on our throats and it is so pervavise we barely recognise it anymore.
You all know where the traffic builds up in your city during peak hour. It'd just take 10-20 cars to bring the city to a stand still. It'd make world news and send TPTB scurrying for answres. How many days of people not showing up to work will break the back of big organisations.
What a spectacle it'd be.
But what about your pension and bennies?
That they are living in fear?
Planning an interesting remake of The Corpse Bride??
(This time with "Real" dead bodies . . . .)
At any rate, I and the like-minded people I know, who have experience as to how to "slice the pie," and maintain our gear & cheer, don't plan on dying.
(At least not in any run & gun.)
Sun Tzu, bitchez.
We III.
Go on a field trip to Baltimore some night if you want to see excessive force
Just voted a big no to police body cams.....too bad
Body Cameras?? Big deal - if "The Administration" are able to fully suppress the "Inconvenient Evidence" from the MH-17 Incident, what makes you think they are unable to fully suppress personal camera data "for Security / Civil Protection / Evidence Contamination" issues??
It might be interesting (and VERY enlightening) to see if LEO Management in States / Counties where body cameras are mandated, covertly (or overtly) start buying top-end / Professional standard image manipulation software . . . . .
LMAO of course they will. What else would you expect of the corrupt lying bastards?
A few years back in Seattle an old native Amercan boozehound known as the woodcarver was shuffling down the street holding his pen knife. Noticed by a cop he was mowed down in a hail of fire even though the old buzzard could have been incapacitated with a shoe. It appears he did not comply quickly enough with the cops order to drop it but was probably deaf as a post or at least brain addled and I'm sure the cop feared for his life inside his battle cruiser.
Battle cruiser
Yeah and this wont be any different. Nobody will do shit to the guilty LEO. But they might fuck you up for talking about it
Also using a banned chokehold that is known to have killed people in the past would be grounds for involuntary manslaughter.
@ Truth,
"This was a clear case of excessive force..."
Excuse me? No, this was a clear case of an innocent man Murdered / Executed in plain sight. With witnesses to boot.
Agreed.
When people stop recognizing immoral execution as such, and instead use pussy words like "excessive force"... that's when you have the boot on your face forever. Time to start using real language to describe real things.
THESE FUCKERS EXECUTED WITHOUT ANY REASON, A DEFENSELESS MAN.
Selling loose cigarettes is not a fucking reason.
The reason is to show others what happens when they don't give the bosses their cut.
@ Truth,
Absolutely NO Worries here. Soon, in the near future these Criminal Psychopaths / Sociopaths & thier families will be hunted down one by one via a Purge.
BANK ON IT!
Hunting down Murdering Criminals at large Daniel Panteleo & #99 & dealing with them with Extreme Predjudice would be justified.
This could be a good test as to whether TPTB are trying to start a race war and/or get white people to support more police powers. I'm guessing they will try to sweep this case under the rug, despite what they did in Ferguson. Nothing from Holder, little from the media, and if race hustlers like Sharpton are in cahoots with the administration, we will hear nothing from them either. Don't want people looking too closely at the murder-for-bullshit lottery in this fascist shithole.
MOTHER FUCK THE POLICE...
bitch ass mother fuckers.......
No kidding. I'm thinking the only justice cops will face is street justice. NY gangbangers we're counting on you to kill the officer that walked. WTF was the jury doing?
just think of the majority of assholes that wanna be cops...
psychopaths who have inferiority complexes looking for a means by which to become powerful...
i know from experience...with the exception of once in my life have i ever encountered a white police officer that didnt step to me like a fucking Klansman...
again - FUCK THE POLICE...
the day is coming when they will be dropping like the pieces of shit MOST of them r....
Shame on the son for calling for non violence after his father was murdered.
His son showed remarkable composure and character in his statement. Shame on you for calling for violence. How does looting, vandilism of private (or public) property, or violence further any legitimate cause? First of all, the public property is PAID FOR by the private citizens. Second of all, not everyone should suffer for the acts of one bad cop. How is the killing of innocents justified by what this cop did? All these riots are just due to thugs waiting for an excuse to do thugish things. They may have just cause to be upset about police brutality, but this isn't a race thing. The bad police out there who abuse their positions should be dealt with, but what happened in Ferguson is inexcusable and unjustifiable.
"Shame on the son for calling for non violence "
For what reason? The son may be opposed to violence. The son may be afraid that, if he says anything aggressive, he too could be murdered by LEO using a bullshit pretext. Lots of possibilities, in this situation, which bring no shame on the son.
Smart of the kid, as mobs really do not discriminate in their rage. And that will all be on him if he were to say, oh, something like burn this bitch down.
Not sure why these two similar stories hit me so different. Maybe it was because the other was a common thief, and this one stole from the state.
Maybe it was a clear video of pigs being pigs.
pods
The video did it for me. Plus, this guy didnt assault the cop. He didnt touch the cop. The cop decided to escalate to violence. The entire situation was all on the cop. That guy is a walking liability. Since the justice system didnt work here, we deserve the cop's death. The ground calls for blood.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Massacre
We knew this would happen.
I'm just glad I don't have to cross the Hudson to get home anymore.
Eating into tax revenues. Stealing from the King. Punishable by death.
In a democratic system, governments represents people. If you kept your mouth shut when innocent children and women and men are slaughtered by bombs and drones and corrupt governments around the world. Don't expect any wet eyes for you either.
In a democratic system, governments represents people.
In democratic DELUSIONS, guvs represent people.
In real life, they are predators with publicity agents.
Everywhere else in the world where people can't afford full packs of smokes, or want to have just one or two for the day, there exist the concept of loose cigarettes. Only here will such atrocities be condoned and people executed.
In a free society, one may dispose of their property as they see fit.
In Amerika, you cannot dispose of your property as you see fit.
Thus..............
pods
In Amerika, we are their property. They can dispose of their property as they see fit.
I can't imagine what the cops would have done to him if he was caught selling 17 oz. sodas.
Suspicion of selling loose cigarettes.
is just their excuse. this guy showed up after the fact of the situation but still before the cops and they got right on him with their minds already made up.
apparently for certain classes of citizen a grand jury is now your way out of a trial
Why in the world woukd local police be used to enforce a silly loose cigarette tax infringement violation with such overuse of force ? Perhaps local merchants paid a bit of " protection money" to local police ? Should have been investigated. Far worse tax violations occur in lower Manhattan in selling counterfiet watches, handbags etc, with showcase arrests, fines and confiscation of merchandise----but no chokeholds. Selling cartons or even packages of cigarretts could represent a large tax loss, however selling loose cigarettes is infinatesimal compared to white collar tax evassion. Something wrong with Nazi tactics against minorities and those at the low end of economic scale. Weep America !
point is that's some shoddy excuse came up with after the fact. they were investigating a fight or...was it a couple guys attacked someone, I dont recall. this guy helped diffuse the situation, then the cops show up and to them there IS still a situation, their minds are already made up about what's going on and they dont care what anyone has to say they have an attachment to being obeyed or they get a little chokey on folks.
I can imagine what the Brown execution was like were it on video, but since we really only have officer wilson's word and 20 other different stories, obviously he's right and completely innocent and well there's no point in even investigating this matter, now how do you feel about that, mister wilson, please, tell the grand jury your full and complete feelings on the matter, we have plenty of time, I know I'm the prosecution and all but I really dont think I need to bother with this whole schtick right now.
that's fucked.
have license to murder, have grand jury get out of jail free card.
again I dont condone the looting, but I completely would have if they burned the fkn police station to the ground.
When the only thing you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
He is clearly heard saying he can't breathe... HE CAN"T BREATHE.....
You better lock that fucking cop up. RIGHT NOW....
That's wrong, COP IS IN THE WRONG. "I CAN"T BREATHE" MEANS EXACTLY THAT.
FUCKING NY.
I know those fuckers are trained in CPR yet it looks like not one of them makes any sort of move to attempt to rescusa, ressessu, recesi... shit, not one of them tries to save him.
The man was really overweight and obviously not healthy. You choke him like that - the chances he will die are pretty high. This is not Michael Brown or Trayvon.
This is really bad. Trayvon was a thug and Michael Brown was choking a shop keeper. This guy was supposedly selling loose cigarettes. Give the guy a warning. This is so ***King minor like jaywalking.
The USA is a police state joke where illegal drug gangs are given red carpet treatment. A guy supposedly selling loose cigarettes who would have bad health with that wait is essentially choked to death in public. F NYC and F DeBlasio and the NY PD.
Radio Raheem....?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGM5x1qQUOI
There is no fucking justice anymore. The police state we live in should disturb everyone!
I agree! Sure that big dumb black guy was in the wrong. But do we assissinate citizens with no trial for being in the wrong? We all don't care because he was a big black idiot, I have no sympathy. But you lets cops kill blacks like this, one day they will feel free to kill whites. If you reach for you dirvers liscense at a traffic stop, they may just blow your head off. Right to kill, do you want cops to have that, even when the criminal has no weapons and is on the ground with 6 cops holding him down?
I was stopped once a long time ago for minor speeding. He asked for my papers. I told him, "okay, but to get them I must move my hands over to the glove box, I must open it, I must pull out insurance and registration papers." He said, "move slowly". Now a days in the same traffic stop, I would fear for my fucking life.
In the wrong? What's wrong with buying a pack of cigarettes and then selling them one at a time? The tax is paid when they're bought.
NY cigarette tax... $4.35 per pack
Selling loose cigarettes? This is sickening.
Allegedly selling loose cigarettes.
Seems proof may be optional these days . . . . . .
"Two Luckys!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-TemfMIxrk
Some nervous banksters doing anything and everything to use race riots as a distraction? Hmmm, why did Ebola come and go with the wind?
Christ on a cracker!! Loose cigarettes! Killed for selling loose cigarettes to other poor people who can't afford a $10.-- pack of fucking cigarettes - or maybe even more than $10.-- a pack in NY....
Lloyd Blankfein, Jamie Dimon, and all the rest who sold blow-up-in-your-fucking-face CDOs and currency swaps and rigged Muni Bond deals are alive and well and smoking the most expensive Cuban cigars Fed money can buy.
Damn right and Hell yeah get out on the street and shout !!!
The problem with allowing the sale of loose cigarettes is that many of the buyers are minors. The sellers also are often selling smuggled cigarettes and that undercuts not just the taxman (who I don't give a fuck about) but also undercuts the local shopkeepers (who I do give a fuck about). It is also a gateway crime.
The dead black guy doesn't seem to have been a bad person, and I get his frustration with cops, but once the cops start to arrest you then you are stupid to try to resist. Besides getting a beating you will get charged with resisting arrest and assaulting the cops and then it won't matter if you beat the charge that you were arrested for.
The choke hold didn't cause the death as the guy was complaining (concious, lucid and able to talk) after the choke hold was released. He died because he was 400lbs and not taking care of himself and the stressful situation got to him.
So if the cops would have been there just five minutes later, most likely they would have found this guy dead on the sidewalk? Interersting argument.
'Fatal chokehold' should read 'homicide'. That's what the Medical Examiner ruled.
CH1, I believe you have summed it up to perfection! Only a sense of absolute power could lead a dozen cops to strangle a big dumb hoody to death for Loose Cigarette selling.
For fucks sake people, if Russia strangled minorities to death in the street for selling cigs, what would CNN say or what would you say? It looks different in that light, does it not? Liscense to kill, you know, if they feel free to kill like this, one day it is white folks they will gun down for cigar theft, and cigareet selling. Resisting arrest has NEVER, in my lifetime, been a death sentence. A cop might night stick you, but gun you down? This was unheard of when I was a kid.
The times I was in St. Petersburg in the late 1990s, the old women commonly sold loose cigarettes to supplement their starvation pensions in public. No one objected.
In many way, perhaps most now, the Russians are freer than Americans.
>> In many way, perhaps most now, the Russians are freer than Americans.
It's been that way for the last 10 years at least. They have a couple rules over there. Pay your 13% income taxes, and don't try and overthrow the government.
Other than that, most militsya (cops) don't give a fuck what you are doing.
It is very fortuitous that the Banksters stole billions of dollars instead of sellling loose cigarettes in NY! If they had done the latter, some might be dead now!
Burning down your own neighborhood doesn't help. Maybe they should burn the cop's neighborhood.
I would have been more supportive of ferguson if they burned down the police stations and town halls, but then again that would have been just another indictment free murder license.
Did ya ever ask yourself qui bono?
TPTB know all too well how to deal with protests. Fucking agents provocateurs (and TPTB's controlled mafia gangs) are behind most looting, which invariably gives the FUCKING PIGS the excuse needed to attack innocent protesters.
Is that really so hard to understand? The legitimate protesters are being PEACEFUL and are not thinking of burning anything - although that being said, maybe they should indeed be thinking of how to strategically harm their opponent's interests, 'cos until they figure out how to put pressure on TPTB, they'll never get anywhere, negotiation-wise.
Well, unfortunately, violence is what it is going to take to turn this around because that is the only thing that works. The problem, one of them, is that the protesters initiate violence against their neighborhood stores and loot them/burn them. If the police are the problem then they must be the focus of the violence. You want to stop this kind of shit then take out a half dozen cops, period.
Understand that I'm not advocating this course of action, I'm just saying that why would a cop stop doing a certain action if there were no consequences to him for doing it? It's like raising a kid, you have to give them harsh consequences to an action you want them to stop or they don't stop it.
If several cops didn't make it home and it was FOR CERTAIN that it was the consequence of choking this guy to death, that would make a difference on how every cop there viewed his job. Also, if the community at large SUPPORTED that action by their attitudes, not by deeds necessarily, that would really throw the PD for a loop. Right now they count on the vast majority of the public to recoil in horror when a cop gets killed and quite frankly, I do as well. I was brought up to see them as the good guys but now a whole generation of kids are seeing these cops act like thugs and that attitude the cops count on to keep society in control and safe for them to do their jobs is changing rapidly.
that's the first question
Sounds like further justification for the fascist police state, after the idiot rioters burn the hood.
This man was CLEARLY Executed. Criminal Program 1033, DHS & IDF Training. It's obvious the Criminal Pinkertin Corp. Thugs have been given Carte Blanch to continue Executing innocent American People.
Whether it's Murdering Americans or Pets the method of operation among these Criminals is now Blantantly clear, out in the open for all the world to see.
It's time to begin protecting our selves with EQUAL Deadly Force if necessary.
The Police set the fires in Ferguson. Look at the video. A tossed Tear Gas Canister set that car on fire.
The police were the only ones around. Their APC with forces is clearly panned into the Cell Phone video recording of the act.
You know..When attending NAU I was in the dorm. In December, 1979, my roommate and I were studying, cramming, for a final in Sherical Astronomy. He wanted a coke and a Snicker's bar and sent me as the go for.
At the moment my hand hit that doorknob the fire alarms went off.. I turned to him and siad, "Well it seems that you are leaving also."
I opened the door and there were SRAs and Cops arund that Fire Alarm. One said to me, "Hey. Someone set off this Fire Alarm." I responded, "Yeah. Somebody certainly did.". They did it.
They did it to evacuate the Dorm for a petty Drug Bust. They used it as an excuse to search rooms...to..."Make sure that everyone was out "safely".
The police are major violators at many times. My uncle was a cop. He always had the best bongs and the primo weed.
You had best get the clue.
If they can do it to the nigger, they can do it to you. Those were the exact words of my father, sometime in the 1940's.
The New World Order loves Divide and Conquer and that's exactly what they're doing to blacks, whites, Mexicans.......everyone
They run everything and everyone......East vs West Black vs White is a charade while they take it all
http://newworldorderg20.wordpress.com/
When citizens preach black vs white......rich vs poor......male vs female.......USA vs Russia that's music to the New World Order's ears
Divide and Conquer is thier game and they've been doing it to your grandparent's grandparents and......
They're doing it to you as well
http://newworldorderg20.wordpress.com/
Has it occured to you people that this discussion is not meant to garner hate between the "races", but to shine a light on the perpetual inequality in American society?
Charles Krauthammer of Fox News Channel sides with Sharpton over Garner arrest:
http://tinyurl.com/lhtdutr
Remember the Grand Jury rule: If the cop is white, you can't indict!
Police have extraordinary powers and immunity in a fascist, police state.
They can also legally separate you from your cash in the land of the free - over $2.5 billion looted from over 63,000 hapless citizens.
Let's not forget the nearly 7 million constitutionally-illegal stop and frisks in the Big Apple.
When I worked in latin america and was often pulled over by cops, shaken down for a 5 dollar contribution to the childrens orphan fund. Upon returning to America, instead of 5 bucks, the cops will empty your wallet. My friends asked how I liked living in a corrupt country, and I keep telling them that the US is OK, but getting worse.
black people better stop smoking. it can cause sudden death by cop.
I'm with Eric on this one. There is no doubt cop should have been indicted.
Most cops should be indicted.
this cop looks like a real POS grease-ball ginny, bench presses and biceps curls only at the gym type
When you hear a little noise at night in you little suburban house Joey, what the 1st thing you do besides shit your pants and call 911?
I sleep with a weapon...Calling the cops is always the last resort.
When seconds count you can be assured that the police are minutes away.
Do you answer for all homos or just the squid?
I answer for nobody. I answer only to Christ Jesus.
Jesus was not a homo and neither am I.
Jesus died for the sinner. Homos are sinners. He died for the homo also.
You only call the police if you want someone dead. Remember that.
With my AR, I check to make sure there's one in the chamber and the safety is off. With my HK, there is no safety, so it's all about lining up the tritium ironsights.
Prolly skips leg day too.
Asshole needs to find a bullit soon.
so you were on the Grand Jury and know the facts of the case? or the MSNBC/DailyNews version?
What part about banned choke hold don't you understand?
same part the Grand Jury must not have understood.
There happens to be video footage of this one my friend. It he is clearly applying a chokehold which is ban and the man is clearly panicking telling him he can't breath.
How does this killer cop get off?
so the grand jury never saw this video?
or did they see it - and more.....?
I assume they saw it and could careless like you because of their social programing that Cops are always good and public citizen bad.
clearly, you're having trouble reading....but you are great at jumping to conclusions...i'll give you that.
all i've said is that we dont know the facts of the case - all the facts. The Grand Jury does.
Sure, it appears the cop F'd up big time....but not one of you know all the facts....yet claim you know more than the grand jury.
(btw, i've offered up that the Grand Jury might have been corrupted)
I can't imagine a scenario where something that's not on this video would justify what is seen on it. This is an injustice, no doubt. Trayvon: a thug who got justice. Michael Brown: same thing. This guy, however, shoulda been left alone. These cops are the thugs here.
probably....but that - again - assumes that the Grand Jury was fixed.
... or choked?
Purchased.
mislead, lied to, threatened, anything but an appeal for justice
It is coercion. If you cant see that, you are extremely niave. In the Ferguson case, there were numerous witnesses who changed their testomony. The Media painted this as they "mis remembered" and finally remembered the real truth only after thinking about it for a few month. Any half-wit can see that when confronted by the police, you are "encouraged" to remeber the truth which will save your and your families @ss going forward.
OWT, the Grand Jury only gets to hear and see what the prosecutor wants them to hear and see and that's the problem with this case and Ferguson - the prosecutor gets to decide what's what and not the Grand Jury. they are only there for show and don't decide anything. Why do you think NY has an almost 99% conviction rate? Not even Hitler came close.
He probably gets off by watching the video of him strangling a man to death.
Why are such cases going to grand jury where the rules of normal court proceedings are completely different (and secret)?
Yes, put all your chips on the infallible Grand Jury. What's happening to this site?
Legalist trolls are nothing new
site is crashing and burning. (oh, and don't say joos. racial slurs are ok though).
...then come on over to www.gunsgrubandgold.com
EVERYONE IS WELCOME...
I forgot my login. :)
(kidding, just dont get time anymore to rant at night)
pods
The grand jury was never meant to be run by the courts. It was meant to be convened and run by us. The people. Go ask Scalia. He will tell you all about it.
Most asshole here don't know how to fight. The only choke hold they know is on their pecker.
Guilty, Your Honor.
Umm your a fuck'en idiot...
same was said in ferguson...."his hands were up" "he was a gentle giant" etc.
until the facts came out in the grand jury....and his hands were NOT up. and he had just knocked off a convenience store....and tried to steal a cops' service revolver
same here.....none of us were on that grand jury, but you all seem to know more than they did.... (or that the Grand Jury was fixed....which is entirely possible)
This is NOT the "same here."
For the record, I am not defending anyone here. All I care about is the truth.
Ferguson, by admission has different stories about what happened. Some said he charged. Some said he didn't. The concept of GJ is prosecution. If there is reason to believe there could be wrongdoing - indict. Rather, Ferguson went the other way. That because there were mixed stories, they decided not the indict. That is not how Grand Juries are supposed to operate. But, they are secret of course. So, we dont have a clue what went down. Either way, something smells, IMO.
Police plant false stories to dismiss the truth, have thugs destroy property to blame on the protesters, plant agent provocateurs to have cause to arrest and clear out protests. The Police State keep the dumbed down masses in control. Those with cognitive abilities know what's happening, the rest are confused because they've been tough by the State to listen and regurgitate what the State tells them.
What the Police (and the State) are really saying is that they can murder whom they want, and there ain't nothin' you can do about it.
Bullshit. Put the crack pipe down skippy.
Dude, give it a rest with the justice system being infallible. It was cute on your first comment, but now its annoying.
says the guy who spells at the 4th grade level.....
Hey Officer Panteleo, how'd you make your way to this site?
Supervisor added to his list of sites.
You make some good points... don't discredit yourself for worrying about how people spell. That's not the point of these discussions. Go find a spelling bee forum if you're worried about spelling.
There's nothing more pathetic than someone trying to argue their point by trying to put someone down because of they way they spell, or look or ??? - has nothing to do with the discussion.
"Mispellers Of The World Untie!"
People who can't spell aren't reading. People who can't spell are annoying. Spelling isn't an art for the gifted few.
Correcting bad spelling mistakes is meant to help the person who cannot spell. Spelling and writing well are both good things.
No one is perfect, we all make mistakes but the inability to write and spell your mother tongue in this day and age is really and truly a shame.