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US Army Sends 100 Tanks To Eastern Europe To "Deter Russian Aggression"

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The ink on Barack Obama's Chuck Hagel termination letter hasn't dried yet but already the US president's new, and seemingly far more hawkish advisors, are having their warmongering presence felt. Case in point: the Eastern European theater of (Cold) war, where Military.com reports that the new Army commander in Europe plans to bolster the U.S. armored presence in Poland and the Baltic states and keep rotations of U.S. troops there through next year and possibly beyond to counter Russia. Lt. Gen. Frederick "Ben" Hodges, who replaced Lt. Gen. Donald M. Campbell  earlier this month as commander of U.S. Army Europe, said the Army was looking to add about 100 Abrams tanks and Bradley Fighting Vehicles to the forces in Eastern Europe.

These U.S. Army M1A2 Abrams tanks are part of the European Activity Set,
a combined-arms battalion-sized set of vehicles and equipment pre-positioned
at Germany’s Grafenwoehr Training Area. Markus Ruachenberger/U.S. Army

"We are looking at courses of action for how we could pre-position equipment that we would definitely want to put inside a facility where it would be better maintained, that rotational units could then come and draw on it and use it to train, or for contingency purposes," Hodges said in a briefing from Vilnius, Lithuania.

So "better maintained... or for contingency purposes." Got it. That probably also explains why as NATO is seeking to deliver 100 tanks to Eastern Europe, it has already added several squadrons of fighter jets just minutes away from Russia's border. For "contingency purposes."

Before:

After:

As before, we wonder how the US would react if Russia were to place a few extra fighter jets in Cuba or a few hundred tanks in Mexico. Aside from historical fact of course.

But back to NATO's tanks whose only mission is "contingency", and certainly not to intimidate Putin that the NATO ring around the nation is closing.

Hodges visited a training site in Lithuania that could be used to store armor and said he would look at similar sites in Estonia and Poland. "Certainly, I don't see a need to build infrastructure -- a FOB [Forward Operating Base] if you will -- or anything like that, that would be used for U.S. forces," Hodges said.

Since taking command, Hodges has made clear his concerns about Russia, which annexed Crimea last March and has supported the separatists in eastern Ukraine. U.S. Army Europe, which had 280,000 troops at the height of the Cold War, now has 31,000.

The rotations of U.S. troops on training missions in Eastern Europe would provide "deterrence against Russian aggression," Hodges said.

 

"I don't think that Russia has any intention of some sort of a conventional attack into NATO territory because they know that would generate an Article 5 response."

Which is why it is best to provoke Russia first by building up NATO armed forces on Russia borders, something NATO previously express would not happen.

He referred to the NATO treaty article calling on all member states to respond to an attack on any member of the alliance. Poland, Lithuania, Estonia and Latvia are all members of the 28-member NATO alliance.

"I think that what they [the Russians] do want to do is to create that ambiguity, plant the seeds of uncertainty so that the alliance members lose confidence that the rest of the alliance would come to their aid if they were, in fact, attacked," Hodges said.

Well, no, that's not what the Russians want. But if NATO keeps piling fighter jets and tanks on its border it will leave Putin no other choice. Which is precisely what the NATO endgoal is here.

In other news, speaking on background, a senior administration official traveling with Vice President Joe Biden on his trip to Ukraine last week said the U.S. has provided more than $100 million in non-lethal assistance "to help the Ukrainians defend themselves."

The aid included night-vision goggles;protective vests; counter-mortar radars; blankets; vehicles; and Meals, Ready to Eat, the official said. The official said the U.S. had concluded that arming Ukraine would be counter-productive since "no matter how many weapons we provided to Ukraine, they were going to get outgunned by the Russians."

Well, actually here the US is lying once again. Recall that "Hacked US Documents Said To Reveal Extent Of Undisclosed US "Lethal Aid" For Ukraine Army", proving once again that the US is just as heavily involved in the Ukraine civil war as is Russia, also implying that the stated NATO reason for intervention is nothing but the red herring NATO wants to brings tensions to a new high, one that preferably breaks out in limited conflict or contained armed combat. Because clearly the global economy has reached its GDP plateau and only war can push it beyond at this point.

As for how Russia feels about this latest NATO expansion, we go to Bloomberg where we read that "Russia is taking countermeasures and will take more, based on analysis of NATO actions near it’s borders, Interfax news service says citing Alexander Grushko, Russia’s envoy to military alliance, in Brussels."

Grushko adds that there is "no reasons for additional deployment of NATO forces near Russian borders, according to IFX", and that NATO measures, strengthening military activity near Russian borders, lead to intensification of military tensions.

Of course they do. And NATO knows it all too well.

And speaking of limited conflict, Germany is already having nightmares about what is sure to be a very, very long recession. As Pravda reported, "the German government prepares for a long conflict with Russia." German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier said the crisis with Russia could take more than a decade, and Ukraine's aspirations to NATO only "adds fuel to the fire," he said in an interview with ZDF television channel on Sunday, November 30th.

"Sometimes, 14 days are enough to start a conflict, but may take 14 years to solve this conflict," the head of German diplomacy said. When asked whether the conflict with Russia could last for such a long time, Steinmeier responded positively.

 

For the German minister, the issue of Crimea's future appears to be unsolvable.  According to Steinmeier, international recognition of the Crimea as a part of the Russian territory is impossible. "We can not either ignore the illegal annexation of the Crimea, or forget about it and just ignore this fact. The conflict between us will continue," the Foreign Minister of Germany said.

Horrible news if you are Europe, right? Well yes... and no. Horrible if you are a member of the soon to be exinct middle-class, i.e., the 99%. If you are lucky enough to be among Europe's uber-rich, all that the decade long conflict between Europe and Russia will do is provide the ECB with a constant scapegoat to engage in more, more, more easing, be it QE or otherwise, which in turn will crush the middle class like in the US, but make the uber-rich, uber-richer than they have ever been.

Which is ironic: as Europe's wealthiest wage a war of words against the former KGB spy and current head of Russia through their numerous media holdings, it is they that should be most grateful for his existence.

 

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Wed, 12/03/2014 - 11:48 | 5512535 Dr. Richard Head
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Are these units looking to deter or provoke the Russians?  Imagine what the US response would be if Russia sent tanks and such to Northern Mexico because of the immigration problem...

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 11:51 | 5512556 FieldingMellish
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No better deterrence than provocation.

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 11:51 | 5512563 Duke of Earl
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Eventually a Russian is going to trip over the mass of US deployed weapons and the war will start.

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 12:01 | 5512585 Divided States ...
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Anybody who cant put the pieces of whats going is an idiot...first more troops in Africa to fight viruses and now this....there is a build up of military troops everywhere during holiday season...the troops must be peeved they will be far away from home during xmas...but fortunately for obama, most of the sheeps are still lining up for junk at the malls and not watching news...well thats if the msm is even reporting these things anymore.

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 12:03 | 5512615 y3maxx
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Obama needs a third term....so's he can unite Mexico/USSA/Canada and become Emporer...in the name of Peace.

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 12:03 | 5512627 kliguy38
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I'm standing in the front yard holding flags and crying singing Don't Cry for me Argentina........or sumthin' like that

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 12:08 | 5512651 nope-1004
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Must. Defend. Petrodolla.

 

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 12:14 | 5512678 Latina Lover
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Add Lith. and Estonia to the list of USSA occupied countries. 

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 12:26 | 5512743 old naughty
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Will this do anything to help the PMI? 

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 12:39 | 5512803 Clever Name
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Hyperbole much?

US Army Sends 100 Tanks To Eastern Europe To "Deter Russian Aggression"

Then in the article it turns into...

"commander in Europe plans to bolster"

"the Army was looking to add"

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 12:43 | 5512820 El Oregonian
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It is on like donkey kong...

I pray for all these lost souls, may God for give them...

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 13:00 | 5512893 SMG
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"The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the "agentur" of the "Illuminati" between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion…We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time."   -Albert Pike.

 

For those who want to know the exact plans for WWIII, Joel Skousen has good analysis about it.

I'm only posting it so I can save as many as possible.   Unfortunatly I think it's too late to stop it.  So get you and your family ready.  You've got a few years so don't panic, but it is coming.

http://www.worldaffairsbrief.com/keytopics/threats.html


Wed, 12/03/2014 - 13:02 | 5512916 jaap
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Missing Hagel already...

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 13:19 | 5512993 Oh regional Indian
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Boggle your minds with this read....the history of Eastern Europe, Kosovo/Albania is a shocker...

Very pertinent...

https://hendersonlefthook.wordpress.com/2014/12/01/the-kosovoalbania-gol...

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 15:12 | 5513591 Manthong
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Just one comment..

Russia has 15,500 tanks

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 13:21 | 5513008 TeamDepends
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These tanks are part of the "European Activity Set". Are we playing with Legos here? God help us

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 14:22 | 5513369 Bastiat
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Peace Prize with oak clusters!

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 19:16 | 5514657 swmnguy
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Well, certainly some kind of cluster.

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 20:00 | 5514816 Sirius Wonderblast
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Well, the western powers are acting like a bunch of kids.

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 13:12 | 5512958 Ass Burger
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IT'S ALL OVER, PEOPLE! WE DON'T HAVE A PRAYER!

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5ndgzXRvWk

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 13:49 | 5513180 petolo
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Must be Nobel Peace Prize nomination time again.

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 15:47 | 5513784 DeficitAlchemist
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Yeah Skousen... starts off bad mouthing Martin Luther King (CIA had files on him banging hookers, calls hi a Hypocrite, collected by Hoover, ( hoover the gay, he has issues with them too) who collected trash on every political individual whilst preaching family values) and asserting his right to discriminate.

 

what a bunch of unsubstantiated baloney this guys wings off on... well done you worked out 9/11 was a false flag.. and thats what gets you a stage and an audience... Nukes to hit America?.. Putin & China more pragmatic than that.. the wild card is America..for that.

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 16:19 | 5513981 SMG
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That article doesn't mention any of those things, so you actually didn't read it.

No matter who wrote the article,  the big question is, is it right?  He gives facts and military movements you can verify yourself from outside sources.

The movement of NATO forces lately is a a foreshadow to WWIII.   And why are our elites building their own bunkers?

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 23:32 | 5515460 explosivo
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I'm not buying it. 

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 12:58 | 5512895 Barnaby
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What's to forgive? They're doing as David Byrne said: like humans do.

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 13:03 | 5512923 Keyser
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More like Roger Waters, "What God Wants, God Gets"...

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 18:09 | 5514424 Escrava Isaura
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No. It is "We are all doing God's work".

 

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 12:15 | 5512685 SamAdams
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Excellent return on my tax investment.  Run up the public debt by defending our shores and constitution on another continent. 

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 12:20 | 5512719 RafterManFMJ
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Next Friday's headline:

 

"ISIS CAPTURES 100 US TANKS AND ARMORED VEHICLES!"

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 12:53 | 5512878 lim
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"ISIS SUDDENLY DISPLAYS EXPERT KNOWLEDGE OF ABRAMS MECHANICS, MAINTENENCE, AND FIRING ARCS"

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 13:14 | 5512970 L Bean
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POTD bruva

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 13:56 | 5513220 GoldSilverBitcoinBug
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Russia should hire ISIS, they are master at taking ennemy's military stuff and operating it, especially American hardware.

It would be a nice payback with interest.

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 14:35 | 5513430 agent default
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Only the US does business with scumbags the caliber of ISIS.

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 12:24 | 5512728 666
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Since unemployment among college grads in the USSA keeps skyrocketing, they will keep enlisting in the USSA military for free food, healthcare, benefits and education. Since there are too many enlistments, what better way is there to control that "overpopulation" than sending them abroad to fight in phoney wars all around the world? This has an additional benefit in that it makes the uber wealthy defense industry execs even more wealthier.

Also, if Russia is considered to be so "aggressive" by having annexed Crimea, why not poll the Crimean citizens to see if they want to return to the Ukraine?

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 12:28 | 5512756 Headbanger
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For that matter

Why not poll the Chinese to see if they would side with Russia in a war with us if/when SHTF in Eastern Europe?

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 13:21 | 5513005 linniepar
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Pretty sure Crimea already voted to side with Russia, no?

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 14:13 | 5513327 666
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But that was a rigged, invalid, meaningless vote, according to Obummer, the Ukraine and EU. Just because 95% of the votes were in favor of joining Russia does not mean the Crimeans really wanted to do that.. Let's have the UN (Useless Numbskulls) sponsor a legal referendum that truly shows the will of the Crimeans. Let the people decide whether they want to come back to the insolvent Ukraine and EU, where their taxes will skyrocket and their freedom disappear, or stay with Russia. The voting could be monitored by the UN and Russia to make sure no hanky-panky goes on.If Scotland could hold a legal referendum, why not the Crimeans?

A simple solution to a simple problem!

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 16:20 | 5513990 venturen
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you mean like a vote in Chicago?

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 13:01 | 5512910 agstacks
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Asking the Crimean people for their opinion on the matter is anti-democratic.

 

\s

Thu, 12/04/2014 - 04:20 | 5515885 August
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For the same reason they don't poll about 15 US states to see if they really want to be subject to the rule of DC.

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 12:43 | 5512819 clade7
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Strange!  I was singing "Can you hear the drums Fernando" by ABBA...

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 13:07 | 5512940 Freddie
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The US Military is a joke in allowing this usurper and his AIPAC puppeteers to do his bidding.   God help the US military if they get in a war with Russia.

No American with an IQ above 10 will support it.  Those tanks are worthless against Russia Kornet anti tank missiles and their Grad MLRS battlefield smart rockets - a really nasty piece of work.   The USAF planes will be shit down by S-400/500.  This is such bullshit.

Democrats, liberals and progressives voted for this.  Nice job f**ktards!

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 13:21 | 5513000 L Bean
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no1curr bc they plan on cleaning the whole thing up like they did in Japan. The investors are chuffed. The puppets have already made their escape arrangements, etcetcetc. I fully believe these fucktard nazis in Ukraine would nuke themselves in Kiev just to be able to reap and rape Novorussia without resistance.  

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 16:48 | 5514130 SoilMyselfRotten
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The Neo-cons and Neo-liberals both want the same thing. War.

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 13:48 | 5513178 Meat Hammer
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I hope and pray that our soldiers will drop their guns and walk away, knowing full well that it won't happen...because Murica.

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 12:10 | 5512658 froze25
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Ebola still exist?  After that Czar was appointed I thought it was solved since it wasn't on the News anymore.  It was like magic that the media all at once stopped reporting on it.  No more cases in the news no more reports of the spread in Africa, no more nothing.

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 12:14 | 5512677 Realname
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Cant have scared sheeps in the malls, now, can we? http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/dec/2/more-than-1400-people-bei...

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 13:36 | 5513084 KnuckleDragger-X
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Everybody is looking at the shiny but it's much more complicated than shipping armor over. The thing to look at is the supply depots and how well they are stocked. Without ammo and spare parts all that equipment is useless and you have to figure at least 6 weeks of sustained combat before resupply and our USA stockpiles have been heavily drawn down the last few years without the needed replacements but don't worry, The Pentagon has been spending supply and training money on politically correct socialism and expensive shiny toys. Mapower is going to be a real problem too but that's a different rant.

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 15:18 | 5513621 11b40
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From the article:

"Hodges visited a training site in Lithuania that could be used to store armor and said he would look at similar sites in Estonia and Poland. "Certainly, I don't see a need to build infrastructure -- a FOB [Forward Operating Base] if you will -- or anything like that, that would be used for U.S. forces," Hodges said."

Russian intel will know exact coordinates of these supply dumps.  Just like the tanks, they will go up in smoke quickly if a real shooting war breaks out with Russia.  All these will be is targets.  This is not the Afgans, or Iraqi's, or the Vietnamese.  Certainly not some rag-tag, low-tech fighting force like the ones we have been practicing on since WW2.

I keep thinking that Europe will come to it's collective senses and say enough.  Maybe in a few months when it gets really cold and they have a few reminders of how much they really do enjoy that fuel Russians provide the desire for war will subside.  There is no hope that America will back off.  The public is not paying attention, and if they start watching, the MSM will indoctrinate them with a steady chant of USA USA USA.  This is just more cash flow for our MIC...gotta keep the war machine humming at all cost.

Thu, 12/04/2014 - 04:35 | 5515895 August
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>>>This is not the Afgans, or Iraqi's, or the Vietnamese.  Certainly not some rag-tag, low-tech fighting force like the ones we have been practicing on since WW2.

Unfortunately, the above means that any for-real hot war with Russia will be nuclear. 

The American military hasn't succesfully prosecuted a start-to-finish full-on land war against a major military power since, well... ever.

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 11:55 | 5512586 Haus-Targaryen
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Ok Putin.  Time for 400 tanks in Königsberg.  

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 12:55 | 5512886 lim
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where is that newly delivered french helicopter-craft carrier floating at anyway these days? hmmm...

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 15:53 | 5513813 Urtica ferox
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...400 tanks... - Note to Vlad: you may as well add 20 Iskander-M tac-nukes (50 kT) while you're at it :-) That should command the attention of the euroweenies.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iskander_missile

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 11:55 | 5512587 FieldingMellish
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The plan.

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 13:17 | 5512990 giovanni_f
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"Eventually a Russian is going to trip over the mass of US deployed weapons and the war will start."

As long as they send their crappy Abrams tanks, no worry. Things will get serious with the deployment of  Leopard II tanks.

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 12:00 | 5512575 Headbanger
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Dick Head..   It would be fantastic if Russia sent a couple armored divisions into Mexico!

Cause they'd definitely put an end to all the illegals trying to escape their latest annexation

DA comrade!

The Russian T-99 looks like a mean tank

Look! It even has a fuel saving 8 speed automatic!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armata_Universal_Combat_Platform

And anybody who thinks this is bullish..  Is a fucking idiot!

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 12:17 | 5512699 Theosebes Goodfellow
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Mean looking or not, they may have to wait until the have some before engaging in any... "activities".

"Testing of the Armata will begin in November 2013."

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 13:08 | 5512947 BandGap
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Russian and Chinese tanks are pieces of shit compared to the Abrams or German Leopards. I am not advocating war but NATO has much better armor and artillary. Plus we have been tuning up the army in Iraq and Afghanistan and the NATO airforce got a workout in Libya.

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 13:48 | 5513164 Volaille de Bresse
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"Russian and Chinese tanks are pieces of shit compared to the Abrams or German Leopards"

 

Tank vs tank is so WWII. Nowadays it's tank vs ground-to ground missile and the RPG-7V2. is a deadly weapon.

Combine the RPG-7V2 with the uncanny ability Russian troops have to lead partisan I can foresee a 95+% rate of casualty among US tanks. In modern warfare tank crews are walking corpses.

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 14:58 | 5513538 BandGap
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You're funny.

I didn't even mention how "well traind" the Russian and Chinese armies are.

Russian troops! Hahahahaha

 

 

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 14:36 | 5513437 angel_of_joy
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You've been tuning shit in those two places, and you won't have an airforce to speak of over Russia. Idiot !

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 14:52 | 5513512 Miketheterrible
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Do you have experience with a soviet tank? Well, the thing is, M1's are not fairing too well in Iraq. T-90A is more comparable. Armata will be farther ahead. Chobham armor of M1 isnt really all what it is cracked up to be.

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 15:04 | 5513556 BandGap
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Yes, I owned one right before I bought my VW Passat wagon. I think my wagon could take out a Russian tank, they are pieces of shit.

Is Russia still buying parts of their navy from the French? What a tesiment to their wonderful defense industry.

 

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 15:57 | 5513845 angel_of_joy
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Dumb AND illiterate... exactly as TPTB would like you to be. What a success ! By the way, what's a "tesiment" ?

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 13:06 | 5512932 Barnaby
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Tanks are for pussies.

The only non-redundant armor is that with a built-in Faraday Cage. EMP is a real thing and everybody knows it.

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 12:07 | 5512644 Payne
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lunatics have taken over the assylum 

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 12:19 | 5512663 fleur de lis
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DC is hell bent on starting another war. What I don't understand is why so many army bigshots go along with it. DC has a proven track record of making a bigger mess everywhere they send troops, getting them killed and wounded in the process, and accomplishing nothing but igniting civil war where it didn't exist.

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 12:34 | 5512778 Dugald
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DC is hell bent on starting another war. What I don't understand is why so many army bigshots go along with it. DC has a proven track record of making a bigger mess everywhere they send troops, getting them killed and wounded in the process, and accomplishing nothing but igniting civil war where it didn't exist.

Ah yes, its called The American Way!

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 12:57 | 5512896 disabledvet
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The only voice I have heard from is the voice of the Navy. On occasion I have heard from General Breedlove who in fact is in charge of "dealing." I've asked a lot of folks who I think are smart about General Breedlove and I find it "not encouraging" that no one has ever heard of the "dude."

I would really like to hear from American Army actually. Obviously they will do their duty as ordered by their Civilian Leadership...as they did in the last and now "re-ramping" war.

Is this one about the oil too? "The precious gems of Afghanistan." Or is it all the Volga Americansunder threat? Was there some peace treaty that lopped off a third of the USA that we're still enraged about? How about the massive hyperinflation we just went through? Maybe it's because the Russian people are so wealthy now we're just jealous?

Not that I'm looking for an explanation. "Just say the word War and its a go!" Better yet...make it a World War as this is the home of Hollywood!

Still...we seem to have come a long way since our Great White Fleet days.

Is it me or is America kinda psycho scary these days?

Even Rolling Stone magazine seems to have joined the Total Bullshit brigade.

I thought the purpose of NATO was deterrence not interference. I mean "insta peace" sure has been hard after "insta war."

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 13:05 | 5512933 XitSam
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Military bigshots go along with it because their whole career has been about getting ready to send young men into battle. Finally they get to do it.

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 14:27 | 5513389 Bastiat
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Yep.  Is it a surprise that surgeons advocate surgery?  That bankers advocate debt?  It's what they do and how they advance.  Campaign ribbons like massively bloody Boy Scout merit badges.

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 13:13 | 5512966 Freddie
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The US Military is a joke now and is run by Bibi and Soros.  Anyone who let's their kid join is an idiot.

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 13:44 | 5513135 V in PA
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They are almost always over 18 when they join. Can't really stop them at that age.

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 18:28 | 5514472 angel_of_joy
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... Can't really stop them at that age.

True. So the idiocy of enlisting is their own... You could remind them how natural selection is supposed to work though...

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 13:25 | 5513023 L Bean
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"igniting civil war where it didn't exist"

 

by DESIGN

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 15:07 | 5513573 Captain Obvious.
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What I don't understand is why so many army bigshots go along with it.

The military have been purged by the civilians. "It is my way or the highway"

No-one with spine is allowed to hold rank.

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 12:13 | 5512670 Gringo Viejo
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The neocons are starting WW 111 to defend the $. And more importantly.....

the Russians are going to kick our ass.

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 13:03 | 5512921 tenpanhandle
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I keep wondering how it is that the "neocons" are the ones doing all the war starting when it is the neoliberals who are in charge. 

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 13:08 | 5512950 XitSam
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The "I like war" posse does not know political boundaries. it is bi-partisan, and therefore must be a good thing.

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 11:51 | 5512561 BKbroiler
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"tanks" sound so war-ish, they're just vehicles of democracy, just in case someone runs out of it and needs re-stocking.  Just a contingency.

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 11:52 | 5512564 TBT or not TBT
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Russia <> USA.     Or not yet anyway.  You'd think that'd  be obvious

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 11:54 | 5512571 Ghordius
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the Turkey Missiles Crisis led to the Cuba Missile Crisis, remember?

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 11:58 | 5512604 Headbanger
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Sure do!

Now if only Putin has Nakita's shoe to bang again.

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 12:03 | 5512629 TBT or not TBT
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One side in that conflict was an evil totalitarian empire and the other wasn't.  Remember that part too?    

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 12:35 | 5512698 Ghordius
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of course I remember. and the world was so much simpler, thanks to the stark contrast between the sides. now what I see is a friend that has become... a tad looney and an old foe that has still not really reformed his ways. from the ideological clarity of the 20th Century back to the murkyness of the imperialistic Great Game of the 19th Century

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re Tyler's: "Horrible news if you are Europe, right? Well yes... and no. Horrible if you are a member of the soon to be exinct middle-class, i.e., the 99%. If you are lucky enough to be among Europe's uber-rich, all that the decade long conflict between Europe and Russia will do is provide the ECB with a constant scapegoat to engage in more, more, more easing, be it QE or otherwise, which in turn will crush the middle class like in the US, but make the uber-rich, uber-richer than they have ever been.

Which is ironic: as Europe's wealthiest wage a war of words against the former KGB spy and current head of Russia through their numerous media holdings, it is they that should be most grateful for his existence."

that is IF we in Europe cry uncle and cede to the immense pressure. IF the ECB eases, eases, eases. IF like Kipling's poem

imho our uber-rich might have a partial stranglehold on media (remember that we have state media, too), somehow, but not on politics, and so on policy. in the same way as our (lower and) middle classes are still "intact" (note that Tyler is admitting the not-yet-crushed European middle classes in his turn of phrase), our richer classes are more... diverse? as often, I point to the differences in the entrepreneurial and business landscape, in particular at the Small and Medium Businesses outside the financial circus of the stock exchanges, and their influence on politics

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 13:02 | 5512919 disabledvet
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"First we make the Russian people pay. And then we kill them."

In America not only is being poor a sin...its now also punishable by death.

Wow. Why do I suddenly feel isolated "instead of the bad guys."

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 13:31 | 5513071 sleigher
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Is there a way to buy stock in this company named UNITED STATES CORPORATION COMPANY?  Instead of feeling isolated, you can profit!

http://anticorruptionsociety.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/articles-of-inc...

 

 

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 13:27 | 5513033 TheGreatRecovery
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IMHO, ALL empires are evil totalitarian empires.

WW1 was a clash of empires, as the western European rulers vying with each other to be the biggest, richest world empire battled it out on home turf.

Almost as soon as WW1 was over, Britain and the USA started, in various ways, helping Germany rearm.  I believe that is because Britain's upper-class, and perhaps the USA's upper-class, make a lot of money off their armaments businesses, and, perhaps more importantly, have always been afraid, above all else, of having their peasants look to Russia or France and say, "hey, WE want a bigger share of the pie too!"

Watching Germany rearm, Russia's rulers saw that they would have to put everything they could get into heavy industry.  Since the only way to capitalize heavy industry was to, basically, take the only wealth Russians had, which was the agricultural wealth of the farm peasants, Russia created the evil 5-year plans.  Evil, but necessary, from Russia's perspective, to arm against a rapidly rearming Germany.

The French built the Maginot Line, but that ended up useless because their next-door neighbors to the northwest, apparently forgetting their experience in WW1, opted to not finish it out to the English Channel.

The arms race was never led by, and is still not led by, Russia.  The arms race, since the 1500s, has been led by western European rulers.  It started with the Portuguese and Spanish, and goes on today thoughout the Near East, the Far East, Africa, and Latin America, and in Georgia and Ukraine.

There are still two large fasces above the Speaker's chair in the USA House of Representatives.

We have to mention Japan, of course.  Japan saw the rich empires of the western European nations in the Far East, and saw Germany, and mistakenly concluded that, since Japan's people were so disciplined, it ought to be able to copy in the Far East what it sought Germany do in Europe and Africa.  Evil, but whose example was Japan following?

After WW2, Russia looked at the millions it had lost, and decided it could not rely on buffer states like Poland to rearm against a possible 3rd German invasion. So it took the buffer states behind the Iron Curtain and rearmed them its own way.   Evil, but, again, from Russia's perspective, perhaps necessary.

Again, IMHO, ALL empires are evil totalitarian empires.

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 13:51 | 5513193 Freddie
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All wars are run for and by banksters.  They are to make money and kill innocents. 

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 14:49 | 5513496 Herd Redirectio...
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I wrote a paper about Japan, post-Meiji 'restoration' up to WWII. Their 'imperialistic' phase. 

Which followed immediately from their 'forced to open to the West' phase!   Japan was completely isolated and inward looking, until it was forced into becoming part of the 'global trade network'.  They tried to 'modernize', in every way, incl. foreign policy.  And whose lead did they take?  The Western Europeans.  Macau, Hong Kong, Singapore...  Goa, Ceylon, Manila... What do these cities have in common?

Got graded by an ethnic Chinese who was upset that my paper wasn't about 'the rape of Nanking'.

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 17:52 | 5514376 tired1
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Did you cover from where Japan got the funding to build their navy?

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 20:04 | 5514827 TheGreatRecovery
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I haven't read about that, but I bet it's very interesting. 

Not to change the subject, but I think Japan was also undergoing a rapid increase in population during their "Imperial" years, and is not today undergoing a simliar phenomen.  I think that one of the things that correlates is increase in population and military aggression.  Jobs, jobs, jobs!

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 20:01 | 5514818 TheGreatRecovery
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Amen.  And another huge empire that has been powerful since, I think, before the Portuguese and Spanish, is the business/banking empire of the expatriate Chinese (ethnic Chinese who do not live mainland China).  Amy Chua speaks about this in her first book, "World on Fire".  There are, of course, other books about this subject.

I read a biography of Hirohito, who as a young man spent some time travelling in Europe, and, according to the biography, greatly admired the British.  I also read, I think it was in this book, about the handful of industrial/banking/business familes who actually ruled Japan in that time and, I believe, also today. 

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 12:08 | 5512650 Government need...
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Our Marxists in Washington would welcome Russian tanks in Central America.  They would offer an excuse to bring in 100 million semi-literate welfare recipients. 

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 12:46 | 5512842 angel_of_joy
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Tanks are overrated. Big, fat targets. Missiles just love tanks, as the Donetsk war has proven last summer. It's just a gesture... for the suckers.

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 13:26 | 5513037 MrPalladium
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"Big, fat targets"

The land based equivalent of surface navy vessels. All vaporized in the first day of fighting.

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 14:59 | 5513545 mc225
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ideally, tanks should have an infantry screen a kilometer or three out in front of them. tanks in the lead could get shredded by missiles.

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 15:26 | 5513650 11b40
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Then let's have our infantry march on Moscow. 

Has that ever been tried before?

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 15:49 | 5513798 Herd Redirectio...
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We will go through the Pripyat/Pinsk Marshes.  What could go wrong.  Lets invade today, Dec. 3rd!  Whats the worst that could happen?

Or we just go up the Don, portage to the Volga at Volgograd, and take the Volga right to Muscovy and the Kremlin.

 

*warning, following the above advice may lead to your firearm pried from your cold dead hands*

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 18:16 | 5514442 Parrotile
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Best to head SOUTH of Pripyat. Rumour has it that north may still be "a little on the "hot" side" - - (however the wildlife has certainly returned with a vengeance - lots of diversity there, so maybe time to revisit the concept of Radiation Hormesis?? )

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 15:59 | 5513863 angel_of_joy
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Has that ever been tried before?

Yeah, twice. Care to know the result ?

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 12:09 | 5520694 11b40
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Did I really need a sarc tag?

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 12:20 | 5512715 fzrkid
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I always pour salt on my cuts to make the pain go away

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 12:42 | 5512823 williambanzai7
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Wed, 12/03/2014 - 13:02 | 5512915 Atomizer
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Well done. Keep up your great work. Winks.

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 13:30 | 5513058 TheGreatRecovery
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HA HA HA  :-)

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 15:26 | 5513659 11b40
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I see from the down votes that we have a couple of Chase bankers reading today.

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 16:32 | 5514061 JRobby
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The down votes are from persons who were charged $3.50 to use ATM cards in a Chase ATM.

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 12:44 | 5512828 clade7
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Maybe the tanks are made out of gold, and meant to be captured?

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 12:53 | 5512881 docmac324
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I have to call BS to this post.  M1s have not been produced in a decade.  Those in service can not be duplicated like fiat currency.  "Extra tanks" are burried in Iraq for when we need them next, or are floating around below the waterline on the Merchant Marine fleet.  To get 100 in a specificall place (not pulling from local forces) would take weeks to months, IF they even exist.

 

The logistics there just makes no sense.

No sarc

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 11:48 | 5512536 LawsofPhysics
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Just more western "peacemakers" doing what they do...

the cognitive dissonnance of the western leaders and sheep is mind boggling...

hedge accordingly.

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 15:05 | 5513565 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Lt. Gen. Osama "Ben" Hodges: "I don't think that Russia has any intention of some sort of a conventional attack into NATO territory because they know that would generate an Article 5 response."

Actually, Ben, I don't think that Russia is intending any sort of attack at all, because they know that NATO is a sinking ship of fools who, Three Stooges-style, are drilling holes into the bottom of the hull to 'let the water out'.

German Foreign Minister Frank-Furter Schweinmeier: "We can not either ignore the illegal annexation of the Crimea, or forget about it and just ignore this fact."

That's right, Vienna Sausage fingers, you can't ignore it or accept it, but the rest of the world can and will. It's actually better for Russia that Vichy DC won't allow its puppet European "leaders" to recognize Crimea's accession to the Russian Federation. The NATO charter won't allow countries with territorial disputes to join.

Of course, the US/NATO are notorious for ignoring their own rules and international law when convenient. But hey, if the planet isn't a lifeless cinder after everything plays out, the 'americans' won't be the ones writing the history books, and future generations can look forward to warmongers being called The New Obama, The New Bush, and/or The New Clinton.

Thu, 12/04/2014 - 05:09 | 5515909 August
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>>>German Foreign Minister Frank-Furter Schweinmeier: "We can not either ignore the illegal annexation of the Crimea, or forget about it and just ignore this fact."

That's right, Vienna Sausage fingers, you can't ignore it or accept it, but the rest of the world can and will.

Senior Chinese officials have publicly stated that they recognize Crimea to be a part of Russia, and thus a component of the Shangai Co-operation Organization. 

I expect that we'll hearing a good deal from the SCO as the coming years unfold.

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 11:47 | 5512538 SheepDog-One
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Oooooo I'm sure Putin just shit his pants.

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 11:49 | 5512539 The Merovingian
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Peace through war.  Bullish.

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 11:49 | 5512540 Big Corked Boots
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Please don't feed the bear(s).

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 11:49 | 5512542 NoDebt
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"No boots on the ground" Syria/ISIS promise applies to Ukraine too, right?  No?  Damn.

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 11:50 | 5512553 ivars
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Great! i personally welcome them though in case of war they will only first serve a function of having decently fought( may be) into defeat. But any resistance would help in later phase of war when the tide will turn back. 

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 11:54 | 5512572 kowalli
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WW3 - will start with massive rocket launches...

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 12:14 | 5512676 froze25
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Makes me feel good that I live next to a what supposedly used to be a nuclear target.  I am probably out of the blast zone but will get cooked by the radiation.

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 12:44 | 5512824 Haus-Targaryen
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We radiated some folks ...

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 21:39 | 5515127 Parrotile
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Being "in the immediate destruction zone" might be one of the better ways of exiting this World. Seeing as the "detonation event" is over in less than 1 millisecond with the blast wall expanding at, say 6000m/s, you would quite literally be "dead before you knew it" (and not just dead, but "scattered to the winds").

Seems to beat the protracted (and painful) demise from ARS / Beta burns to my way of thinking.

Thu, 12/04/2014 - 00:21 | 5515605 Oliver Klozoff
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He can find out here.

H/T some other Zero.

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 12:48 | 5512856 bbq on whitehou...
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No one is willing to launch, thats the problem. No credibility, so no worry and no fear. Just take what you want and let them cry sweet sweet tears.

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 11:51 | 5512555 i_call_you_my_base
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The Europeans are stupid for getting into bed with the US on foreign policy. The US will provoke war without a second thought.

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 11:51 | 5512565 Tsar Pointless
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Or without any thought, for that matter.

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 12:08 | 5512645 CuttingEdge
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...and be the only ones to significantly profit by it (see WWI, WWII)...at least the MIC. War in Europe is a win for the US corporates economically - nothing like legitimately thinning out the competition every few decades to get ahead.

Problem is, European politicians are with minimal exception testicularly challenged, and Merkel (who calls the shots) is Washington's whore.

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 13:05 | 5512930 Stumpy4516
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Yes, the EU is stupid for letting the US/Israel do this in their countries.  And so they deserve the cost that occurs.  Even if the cost is US/Israel starting to take some direct control over their country in the future, once US troops in uniform are everywhere and their military vehicles far outnumber the presence of the local police.

I have said it before.  This is what Putin/Russia gets for being afraid to stand up against Iraq1 and/or Iraq2, Libya, Syria, Serbia, Kosovo, Ukraine and the list goes on.  For Putins fear of retaliating agianst threats made by the US against Russian individuals.  Putin is seen as a lot of hot air and photo opp politician who will not act unless Russia's borders are crossed. 

Bit by bit a large force will be put in place around Russia and in other key locations around the globe.  This is being started in Africa and once in place covert wars will push China out and China's legal holding negated by new goverments. 

Those who point out the US would never tolerate this on it's borders should take note of their own observation and realize what that means about Russia.

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 11:53 | 5512558 Ignatius
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"To deter Russian aggression."

Yeah, right.

/heavy s

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 11:54 | 5512579 TBT or not TBT
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Let me know when we have given nuclear tipped IRBMs and ballistic missile defenses to an ally facing Russia.   

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 11:52 | 5512562 ZeroPoint
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They will have the whole world incinerated before they give up an ounce of control.

 

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 11:53 | 5512566 pods
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The MIC will continue to fan the dying embers of their relevance until the USD is dead.

After that, mercenaries abound!

pods

 

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 12:03 | 5512600 Ignatius
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We're currently awash in mercenaries.

My understanding is that the Generals in Ukraine are on the Pentagon payroll, including generous expense accounts.

We've tended to think of wars as discrete events, but in this era of covert war, war never ends, it just proceeds by other means and public relations cleans up the details.

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 13:35 | 5513094 L Bean
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Agree.  US paid mercs have been used in nearly every recent conflict. And they're not there as support or muscle. They're taking orders directly from the CIA et al. They're acting in executive capacity. Literally making war where none existed, false-flagging the fck out of everything they can, until the Marines have to be called in.

I don't think this can be overstated. We've been 'awash', as you say, for more than a decade. That's all it is now, capital seeking profits.

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 19:33 | 5514717 swmnguy
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Since Nixon realized the resistance to the Viet Nam War was coming from the American middle class, who didn't want their kids drafted to fight a pointless war, and ended the draft, where have any US soldiers come from?  They're almost entirely young men with no better prospects who sign up in return for steady pay and the promise of a paid college education.  Or foreigners promised Green Cards, much as Ancient Rome offered land to "barbarians" who joined their army.

And what is the word we use to describe people who become soldiers for money?

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 11:52 | 5512567 FreeShitter
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Putin needs to grow some balls here, they are coming for YOU vlad.

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 11:54 | 5512569 ebworthen
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Hitler sent tanks into Poland to "deter French aggression".

Yet another waste of taxpayer dollars chasing imperialist pursuits.

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 12:33 | 5512773 Sandmann
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France had a defence treaty with Poland from 1920 and in 1935 Poland proposed an attack on Germany

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 12:37 | 5512800 TheGreatRecovery
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Really?

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 15:45 | 5513760 TheFourthStooge-ing
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I believe the Poles proposed to attack Germany in 1939.

In 1919, Poland attacked Russia. In 1920 France provided Poland with artillery, guns, and ammuntion, after which Poland invaded and captured territory in Lithuania, Belarus, and Ukraine.

Poland was actually pretty cozy with Nazi Germany until 1939. In 1934 the Poles built their first concentration camp to help them "deal with" the Jews, Ukrainians, Belorusians, and other undesirable riff raff from their new eastern European colonies. In 1938, just about a year before Germany invaded Poland, the Poles (along with Hungary) participated in the German occupation of Czechoslovakia as part of a "peacekeeping mission".

It wasn't until August 1939 that the Polish ambassador told the French that if hostilities erupted with Germany, the Poles would take the initiative and march to the Rhine within the first few days of the war.

http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2014/09/04/poland-victim-of-coloni...

http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2014/08/26/poland-turn-of-history-...

It's a good thing that people learn from history, ain't it?

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 15:04 | 5513253 ebworthen
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And France sat back and watched Germany militarize, Hitler come to power, and Chamberlain waved a piece of paper in the air.

Then Poland was invaded and conquered, then France.  Europe has been conquered by the U.S. Military Industrial Complex and the Wall Street Warlocks and Brussels Bandits.

The Russian Federation appears to be the only European nation left with Sovereignty that doesn't beg for favors and protection.

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 11:55 | 5512574 HamRove
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Fuck you Obama. 

Stick those Abrams tanks up your ass until you taste metal you lying shit polisher.  

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 12:26 | 5512749 Rubicon
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He's Polish?!

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 11:53 | 5512576 Jim Shoesesta
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Are we ever just gonna let the EUropeeons fight thier own battles. 

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 12:00 | 5512607 TBT or not TBT
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We have some history of letting them get started fighting for a few years before jumping in.   The we adjusted to a less expensive, in human terms, method called deterrence where the idea is to prevent a big war breaking out to begin with.    

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 12:00 | 5512613 HowdyDoody
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More accurately, are the Europeans ever going to wise up that there are pawns being used in America's battles?

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 11:55 | 5512577 franzpick
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Put Jane McCain and Victorious Nuland in the lead tank.

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 12:39 | 5512810 noben
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And send Holiday gifts to "folks" in Grafenwoehr.  E.g. They might be lodging at http://cozycorners-e.com/

Or fly into Munich, head north and turn "extreme right" at Nuremberg.  Follow the signs.

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 11:54 | 5512578 10mm
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Just following orders sirrrrr. Sarc

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