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US Army Sends 100 Tanks To Eastern Europe To "Deter Russian Aggression"

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The ink on Barack Obama's Chuck Hagel termination letter hasn't dried yet but already the US president's new, and seemingly far more hawkish advisors, are having their warmongering presence felt. Case in point: the Eastern European theater of (Cold) war, where Military.com reports that the new Army commander in Europe plans to bolster the U.S. armored presence in Poland and the Baltic states and keep rotations of U.S. troops there through next year and possibly beyond to counter Russia. Lt. Gen. Frederick "Ben" Hodges, who replaced Lt. Gen. Donald M. Campbell  earlier this month as commander of U.S. Army Europe, said the Army was looking to add about 100 Abrams tanks and Bradley Fighting Vehicles to the forces in Eastern Europe.

These U.S. Army M1A2 Abrams tanks are part of the European Activity Set,
a combined-arms battalion-sized set of vehicles and equipment pre-positioned
at Germany’s Grafenwoehr Training Area. Markus Ruachenberger/U.S. Army

"We are looking at courses of action for how we could pre-position equipment that we would definitely want to put inside a facility where it would be better maintained, that rotational units could then come and draw on it and use it to train, or for contingency purposes," Hodges said in a briefing from Vilnius, Lithuania.

So "better maintained... or for contingency purposes." Got it. That probably also explains why as NATO is seeking to deliver 100 tanks to Eastern Europe, it has already added several squadrons of fighter jets just minutes away from Russia's border. For "contingency purposes."

Before:

After:

As before, we wonder how the US would react if Russia were to place a few extra fighter jets in Cuba or a few hundred tanks in Mexico. Aside from historical fact of course.

But back to NATO's tanks whose only mission is "contingency", and certainly not to intimidate Putin that the NATO ring around the nation is closing.

Hodges visited a training site in Lithuania that could be used to store armor and said he would look at similar sites in Estonia and Poland. "Certainly, I don't see a need to build infrastructure -- a FOB [Forward Operating Base] if you will -- or anything like that, that would be used for U.S. forces," Hodges said.

Since taking command, Hodges has made clear his concerns about Russia, which annexed Crimea last March and has supported the separatists in eastern Ukraine. U.S. Army Europe, which had 280,000 troops at the height of the Cold War, now has 31,000.

The rotations of U.S. troops on training missions in Eastern Europe would provide "deterrence against Russian aggression," Hodges said.

 

"I don't think that Russia has any intention of some sort of a conventional attack into NATO territory because they know that would generate an Article 5 response."

Which is why it is best to provoke Russia first by building up NATO armed forces on Russia borders, something NATO previously express would not happen.

He referred to the NATO treaty article calling on all member states to respond to an attack on any member of the alliance. Poland, Lithuania, Estonia and Latvia are all members of the 28-member NATO alliance.

"I think that what they [the Russians] do want to do is to create that ambiguity, plant the seeds of uncertainty so that the alliance members lose confidence that the rest of the alliance would come to their aid if they were, in fact, attacked," Hodges said.

Well, no, that's not what the Russians want. But if NATO keeps piling fighter jets and tanks on its border it will leave Putin no other choice. Which is precisely what the NATO endgoal is here.

In other news, speaking on background, a senior administration official traveling with Vice President Joe Biden on his trip to Ukraine last week said the U.S. has provided more than $100 million in non-lethal assistance "to help the Ukrainians defend themselves."

The aid included night-vision goggles;protective vests; counter-mortar radars; blankets; vehicles; and Meals, Ready to Eat, the official said. The official said the U.S. had concluded that arming Ukraine would be counter-productive since "no matter how many weapons we provided to Ukraine, they were going to get outgunned by the Russians."

Well, actually here the US is lying once again. Recall that "Hacked US Documents Said To Reveal Extent Of Undisclosed US "Lethal Aid" For Ukraine Army", proving once again that the US is just as heavily involved in the Ukraine civil war as is Russia, also implying that the stated NATO reason for intervention is nothing but the red herring NATO wants to brings tensions to a new high, one that preferably breaks out in limited conflict or contained armed combat. Because clearly the global economy has reached its GDP plateau and only war can push it beyond at this point.

As for how Russia feels about this latest NATO expansion, we go to Bloomberg where we read that "Russia is taking countermeasures and will take more, based on analysis of NATO actions near it’s borders, Interfax news service says citing Alexander Grushko, Russia’s envoy to military alliance, in Brussels."

Grushko adds that there is "no reasons for additional deployment of NATO forces near Russian borders, according to IFX", and that NATO measures, strengthening military activity near Russian borders, lead to intensification of military tensions.

Of course they do. And NATO knows it all too well.

And speaking of limited conflict, Germany is already having nightmares about what is sure to be a very, very long recession. As Pravda reported, "the German government prepares for a long conflict with Russia." German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier said the crisis with Russia could take more than a decade, and Ukraine's aspirations to NATO only "adds fuel to the fire," he said in an interview with ZDF television channel on Sunday, November 30th.

"Sometimes, 14 days are enough to start a conflict, but may take 14 years to solve this conflict," the head of German diplomacy said. When asked whether the conflict with Russia could last for such a long time, Steinmeier responded positively.

 

For the German minister, the issue of Crimea's future appears to be unsolvable.  According to Steinmeier, international recognition of the Crimea as a part of the Russian territory is impossible. "We can not either ignore the illegal annexation of the Crimea, or forget about it and just ignore this fact. The conflict between us will continue," the Foreign Minister of Germany said.

Horrible news if you are Europe, right? Well yes... and no. Horrible if you are a member of the soon to be exinct middle-class, i.e., the 99%. If you are lucky enough to be among Europe's uber-rich, all that the decade long conflict between Europe and Russia will do is provide the ECB with a constant scapegoat to engage in more, more, more easing, be it QE or otherwise, which in turn will crush the middle class like in the US, but make the uber-rich, uber-richer than they have ever been.

Which is ironic: as Europe's wealthiest wage a war of words against the former KGB spy and current head of Russia through their numerous media holdings, it is they that should be most grateful for his existence.

 

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Wed, 12/03/2014 - 14:09 | 5513309 Sandmann
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Pearl Harbor is everywhere nowadays that a ship/sub launched missile can break a carrier

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 13:43 | 5513131 Fix It Again Timmy
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Our military high-command needs to get laid.....forget all this toys for boys bullshit - if you're getting laid, there's no time nor will for monkeyshines....

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 13:49 | 5513183 Catullus
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Blowjobs for world peace. I ask my wife for this every year for Christmas!

All I get is a warmongering sweater.

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 13:44 | 5513133 SmallerGovNow2
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When i was stationed in Germany during the cold war we had pre-positioned equipment.  POMCUS (Prepositioning Of Materiel Configured in Unit Sets) ...  I imagine they still do.  All you had to do was send the troops over to draw the equipment out and get in the fight.

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 13:58 | 5513237 NoWayJose
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When you were stationed in Germany the US had hundreds of thousands of extra troops that it could send. With Obama's cut backs, where will those troops come from? And with wars won or lost within days, do we even have the transports to get them there? And given the cutbacks, have we even maintained the equipment and supplies? Or just handed much of it over to the Iraqi (or ISIS) army and to our moderate rebel 'friends'?

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 14:09 | 5513299 rejected
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Agreed, Just what we need is more funding so we can put more americans in combat!

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 14:19 | 5513354 NoWayJose
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More funding is probably a BIG reason for this! Gotta keep thise defense contractors busy!

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 14:25 | 5513388 SmallerGovNow2
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the Army was still in the neighborhood of half million soldiers the same as it is today.  there have been no "significant" cutbacks depending on how you define the word...

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 14:30 | 5513408 SmallerGovNow2
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here you go...

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/feb/25/chuck-hagel-pentagon-budget-troop-reduction

On the surface this language – and the proposal to cut the army's active force to between 440,000 to 450,000 troops – made the announcement of the Pentagon's five-year budget blueprint seem like an historic event. But only in the alternate universe of Washington DC could a reduction of the active force from a wartime peak of 570,000 to 450,000 be portrayed in such a manner.

Thu, 12/04/2014 - 05:49 | 5515927 dreadnaught
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either rusted shut or gone by now

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 13:46 | 5513157 JR
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The New America: the killing machine. The return of Mubarak and the death sentence for his opponents in Egypt, from Syria to Ukraine to Iraq to Gaza, the killings are the imperial result from the assaults from the Home of the Brave. The American/Jewish hate campaign against the Muslims and Ukrainians has come to fruition.

In the meantime, “Tony Blair has reportedly agreed to advise Egyptian President Abdel Fattah el-Sisi as part of a United Arab Emirates-funded program that promises lucrative ‘business opportunities’ to those involved.”

"Egyptian court sentences 188 to death for attack on police" | RT

Published time: December 02, 2014

An Egyptian judge sentenced 188 Muslim Brotherhood supporters to death Tuesday after 11 policemen were killed in an attack last August during one of the most violent crushing of protest camps in Egypt’s modern history.

The ruling will however allow those who have been sentenced to participate in an appeals process.

The court decision comes after all charges were dropped against Hosni Mubarak, fourth President of Egypt from 1981 to 2011, who was initially charged for the death of 239 protesters – a fraction of the 850 people activists believe died in the 2011 uprising that ended the 30-year rule.

Those who were sentenced had been protesting and demanding that Islamist President Mohammed Morsi be reinstated after his ousting at the beginning of July 2013.

They were charged with killing 11 police in Kerdasa, a town west of Cairo In August last year, and attempts to kill ten more in an ambitious assault on Egyptian security forces.

Egyptian security forces on the same day cleared two pro- Brotherhood protest camps. Hundreds of people were killed.

A final verdict will be issued by Egypt’s top religious authority in January.

Since Morsi was removed from office, 22,000 people have been arrested, including several senior Muslim Brotherhood figures.

Army chief Abdel Fattah al-Sisi who oversaw his ouster won a presidential election in May.

In June, a Egyptian court sentenced to death some 183 Islamists, including Muslim Brotherhood leader Mohamed Badie. They are currently standing retrial.

http://rt.com/news/210871-egypt-court-death-police/

NOTE: In March this year, the Egyptian authorities drew international condemnation when a court sentenced 529 people to death, possibly the largest mass death sentence in recent years. Human Rights Watch branded the trial as lacking any legal validity.

http://rt.com/news/170628-brotherhood-leader-life-prison/

(Previously posted on Washington's Blog)

America, once the Land of Freedom, has become the killer of freedom.

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 13:48 | 5513177 PontifexMaximus
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Bullish!

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 13:52 | 5513200 Catullus
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Last two years of a lame duck empty suit president: time to kick the farce up a notch while no one can be held accountable.

07-08 were FANTASTIC years for cronyism under Bush

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 13:53 | 5513201 dsty
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I believe the Iron Curtain will return, and the Poles know that.

Something has to happen to the economy world wide first

Something people here have been expecting for a long time

Will another terrorist attack be the catalyst?

No, the US won't initiate it on itself.

I am pretty sure Russia has something up it's sleeve

 

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 13:53 | 5513203 NoWayJose
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I think we know the reason Hagel got canned - he was probably the only voice of reason opposing this madness. Stacking up a bunch of armor in a FOB only serves to give the Russians a fixed target to hit - if they decide to attack. But Putin is too smart to launch any attack on NATO. Instead I see Putin just sitting back everywhere except Ukraine - and waiting out either the EU/US Collapse - or for Obama's term to end. With the pipeline to Turkey, Putin does not need any more Ukraine territory. And do you think Russia is going to collapse before the current government in Ukraine?

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 14:51 | 5513383 bid the soldier...
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I don't even think Hagel was canned.  I think the bullshit got too much for him and he quit.  

Nobody wants to be a lying Def Sec.

 

If he were canned, wouldn't they have had an immediate replacement for him?

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 13:57 | 5513225 YMHC
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Moscow's not the worry, neither is the whole Soviet navy. I know their tactics, I have the advantage.

The worry is the Americans. If we meet the right sort, then this will work.

We get some... buckaroo...?

Capt. Marko Ramius

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 13:57 | 5513228 vincenze
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The Ukrainian president visited Latvia a few weeks ago and got assurance that he would get old arms from Latvia. Now old American tanks are flowing to Latvia. What is the final destination?

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 14:01 | 5513261 scatha
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Let's get some perspective:

So let's do the math.  100 U.S.tanks , 18 NATO attack aircraft + support, 2000 soldiers.

Let see now performance of 12 thousands, 50 something grand fathers, bootless, toothless poor veterans of lost Afghanistan war (1979-1988) which formed Donbass militia.

500+ tanks killed or captured. 300+ big guns killed or captured, 4000 Ukrainian soldiers killed or wounded, 50+ attack aircraft down. 1000+ POW, while consuming 1000+ gallons of vodka and hot chai.

I think Putin realizes the enormity of the threat. And he has a plan. To buy all those retired people in Donbass train ticket to Warsaw, Poland. And order whole Russian army to watch and learn.

Polish army general said that Russian could takeover Baltic states and enter Warsaw in 2 days if they skip public transport otherwise even faster.

Donbass militia could easily defeat armies of Czech and Slovak republics and Hungary as they stand. In the middle of it all (90 miles from Warsaw) is Russia strong ally Bialoruss which has 1 milion + soldiers.

Now we see, in appropriate scale, western overtures of military might and impotence.

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 14:04 | 5513265 rejected
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America, land of hypocracy, arrogance and hubris with plenty of bullshit to grease the stupidity of it's guns for sale foreign policy.

 

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 14:07 | 5513288 Anglo Hondo
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Y'er gonna to send a tank to a tactical nuclear gunfight?  Kiddin', right?

 

Thu, 12/04/2014 - 05:45 | 5515925 dreadnaught
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no he's just plain DUMB

Thu, 12/04/2014 - 05:59 | 5515936 dreadnaught
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no, he's just plain DUMB

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 14:07 | 5513291 medium giraffe
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Conquest is easy. Control is not.

- James Tiberius Kirk

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 14:32 | 5513412 Barnaby
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I crap. Therefore I am.

- Peter Fucking Griffin

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 14:12 | 5513319 viedoklis_lv
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Those tanks should be sent to east Ukraine in order to fight against Putin regime goons that invaded Ukraine.

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 15:00 | 5513543 smacker
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Argh(!) our Latvian troll. I thought you'd appear sometime.

Do you have photos of the Russian invasion and occupation of Ukraine available yet??

Thu, 12/04/2014 - 05:45 | 5515923 dreadnaught
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Stoopid (sic) as fuck comment

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 14:12 | 5513325 dizzyfingers
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"To Deter Russian Aggression"

 

To provoke more NATO sites near Russia.

 

New cold war, 24/7/365 forever.

 

Good for global bankers. The fewer the numbers the more each one makes.

 

Cynical? Who, me?

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 14:17 | 5513342 NoWayJose
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GlobalFirePower shows the Russians with 15,500 tanks in 2014. They have scrapped over 5,000 obsolete ones, so these are modern. And Russia does not have to spread them all over the globe. These 100 US tanks are not going to have any effect if fighting breaks out. It is a Democrat Liberal fantasy that is supposed to 'scare' Putin. Good Luck with that!

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 14:19 | 5513362 DeliciousSteak
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Meh. 100 armored vehicles is a way of saying to NATO allies "yes, we got your back. Sort of, even though everyone knows the Baltics are indefensible in a hot war scenario". In other words, it's nothing. No need to add hyperbole to the mix.

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 17:02 | 5513455 TeethVillage88s
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100 Tanks Driving around will Ruin the Roads & Bridges and further make (Corrected) Europe lose quality of life, quick distribution routes, and interstate commerce. (isn't this an old story)

Repost:

I predict we will never see an end to ZIPR, so that Industry & the greater economy can continue to Frak.

After 6 Years of no interest on Savings & Checking Accounts & CDs... you have to have some conclusions about concern for Main Street.

- It was 50 Years of US Stock Market Obscurity, till like 1980 when stocks became interesting, but US Public Burned in the Original Stock Market Crash in 1929, eschewed Stock Equities

- But Technology Grew in Capital Ownership
- Computers & Automation & now Robotics came in
- Outsourcing & Off Shoring came in
- US Decapitalization became a Trend
- US Mergers & LBO became a Trend
- Many Visible means to Reduce Costs became Culture

- Today Still no hue and Cry about lost 6 Years for Fixed Income US Voters/Savers
- The Public was Fooled by Conflicting Policies starting in the 1970s with the Nixon Shock and Petrol Dollar
- Hidden Policies like the Monroe Doctrine of US Military Republic Remain little known even though older than 1823
- Ron Paul just made a statement that Foreign Police will Remain confusing, and therefore wasteful and corrupt

- US Savers are just one of the Victims of Executive Office Conflicted Policies and Lip Service to do what is best for all people
- Wealth Migration from the Middle Class & Poor to the .1% will continue, the effects are a certainty with current trends, trend analysis, and poor Democracy in USA
- Political System is broken, Free Press is Broken
- Federal Tax Policy Trend is less tax on Commerce & Wealthy, leaving the Biggest Corporate Welfare System in history to harvest the Wealth of ordinary people on Main Street
- Wall Street is so Crooked, Auditing is gone, Real Ratings are gone, to an Era of Replica Financial Instruments, Fraud Reigns Supreme, All Markets are Fixed
- $18 Trillion Exponential Federal Deficit, 6 years ZIRP for Savers, Endless Foreign Wars, Free & Full Charters for TBTF Banks to Create Money from thin air, Endless Fraud, Endless Lobbying delays legislation then buys the Legislation, Endless Free Trade to Slave Labor which can be hidden anywhere it turns out, Endless Monopolies as Lobbying Props up and effectly overturns Teddy Roosevelt to where it like Roosevelt was never born
- The Money Trust not taught in Schools, the Folly of US Stock Markets not taught in Schools,

What set USA apart from Third World Countries was:

- Interest on Savings or CDs
- Success in Financial Markets in a Modern Era
- Strong Wages that allowed workers to buy cars, houses, houses, Stereos, Computers
- Strong Manufacturing. Pride in USA Autos.
- Military Strength, Great Weapons, Strategic Locations
- US Inventiveness/Creativity
- US Equality, Credit for all who could work, Justice for those that stayed out of Trouble
- The Illusion that US Politics worked, that social programs would now help the poor, sick or elderly, that politics were inclusive, that Education systems were Honest, that we had a Free Press
- And the USA had Civil, Individual, and Human Rights and that they were permanent in our Justice System protected by the DOJ, FBI, SEC, FTC, GAO, CBO, FINRA, FDIC, Treasury, FED, OCC... and our Bank Examiners & Government Employees

Bottom Line: US has become Europe of the 1960s at best or maybe (correction) a Totalitarian Fascist State.

What you don't think War is about Finance, Winning Financial Advantages, about Elites Greed??? About someone's (cartel) personal idea of Empire???

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 14:29 | 5513397 insanelysane
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Is the tank commander's name Oddball and does he have an engineer always complaining about the mechanical systems???

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 14:28 | 5513399 Jack Burton
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I hear that this new secretary of Defense in a Big Neocon guy with large connections to arms manufacturers. That combination guarantees an aggressive policy towards Russia. I believe this move is aimed at pushing the Civil War in Ukraine into a NATO - Russia proxy war, as it partly is now, but to expand it to open warfare between NATO and Russian troops.

Many smart minds outside the Washington orbit have been asking the question "why the USA is in such a hurry to provoke war in so many places at once." The Coup in Ukraine was carried out by agents the CIA has cultivated for decades in Galacia West Ukraine and inside the extreme fascist nationalist Ukrainian minority. These provided the muscle for the Coup on Maidan.

I have posted many times, so this migh be the last, that the USA is desperate to prevent the continued integration of Russia and the EU that was well underway. Social contacts via media and travel were bring Russia firmly into the European orbit, Russians traveled all over Europe and liked what they saw, wanting to bring it home, thus putting political pressure for a more liberral democratic Russia. Also, the huge trade between Germany and Russia, plus exports from other EU states, along with Russian enery and mineral exports, was making the EU and Russia into a common market, defacto, ONE economy.

I see all that as good. A peaceful Russia seeking to follow the European path, media and internet, travel and all was bringing Russians into the 21st century European model of thought and desires. Now here comes the USA, hell bent on stopping this growth in common culture and common markets. Russia is firmly capitalist, and thing Washington hates. Russia is also mostly white and takes immigrants, but at a mesured rate, another two things Washington hates.

To sum up. Washington hates and fears Russian growth and EU ties. They want to strangle the baby in the crib. Ukraine and it's Galician Nazi movement, and the smaller West Ukrainian fascist movement, nurtured by Washington, is doing the important work of provoking a civil war, and that justifies Washington's puppet army in NATO to advance forces east and threaten open war. The first shot would end EU and RUssian common interests. It is not the EU who threaten Russia, or Russia that threatens the EU. It is Washington who hates and fears Russian and EU common culture and common economic growth.

The USA has become the quasi NAzi Germany of the 21st century. Obama has always been a tool of the Neocons, Zionests and Military, Industrial, Spy complex. He is hell bent on war. The new Republican Congress will add gasoline to the fire, forcing the mad bomber Obama to up his game into outright warfar against Russia. A Russia that has thousands of tactical nuclear weapons and has vowed to use them right at their borders should any foreign force enter the Russian Federation. This is part of the written defense doctrine of the Russian Federation. The First Use of tactical Nuclear weapons on any foreign army crossing into Russia that the Russian conventional forces are unable to stop. Their doctrine calls for a convetional defense inside Russian territory, if that fails, the doctrine command suse of any and all nuclear tactical weapons. Yet Obama still kicks at them and threatens them with NATO tanks?

My friends, we either take our nation back from neocons and zionists or we may all be dead soon.

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 14:35 | 5513418 Barnaby
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Whatever would possess you to write such a long and tiresome thing, Jack? You do such a nice job with incisive comments, usually.

Jesus, my only downvote of the day.

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 15:02 | 5513550 JR
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What possible motive would you have to oppose this presentation other than to favor US aggression against innocent and sovereign people? Frankly, there’s never been a clearer analysis of the critical danger America is in than what Jack has just provided.

Your response saddens me; no, angers me, that when we so desperately need to understand the dangers our beloved country faces that someone would step forward to attempt to kill the message.

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 15:07 | 5513574 Barnaby
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Who are you to question my fucking motives? Jack wrote a tired and worthless tome about nothing in particular.

You got the sand to write better?

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 15:19 | 5513622 JR
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Who am I to question your motives? Just an American who sees his country devolving from that light for the world into a fire bomber of sovereign countries and innocent people. I question the motives of anyone who aggressively opposes the sounding of this alarm.

That would be you.

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 15:58 | 5513847 Barnaby
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I've been in this country forever and although I was conceived elsewhere I was surely born in this glorious land. You and I can agree this place has taken a terrible turn.

I take action.

You enact pussy passive-aggression on my action.

Paddle in the right direction, will you?

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 16:13 | 5513935 JR
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Okay.

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 19:28 | 5514694 Monty Burns
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He sounds like one of the dual-citizens to me.

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 21:32 | 5515098 Barnaby
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Yes, dual British from my mouth to my balls. The US is a rug the UK never quite burned although it is rife with pestilence.

1776 is the year we all started sucking. 2016 is when we quit.

Thu, 12/04/2014 - 07:12 | 5515974 August
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Gotta love cryptic hauteur.

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 15:08 | 5513577 SmallerGovNow2
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+1 Jack and JR.  Ditto your comments JR...

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 15:46 | 5513775 Time for Titus
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I get disappointed when Jack writes short posts. 

I follow him and have his comments bookmarked.

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 19:26 | 5514689 Monty Burns
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Bollocks to you.  It was an excellent analysis and prognosis.

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 14:54 | 5513516 Jano
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You see too many neocons and zionists and you forget, that this is done from the London city to 90% and by USA to 10%.

London city invoked WWI and WWII. In each of them London city let the others fight each other. They do not need a strong USA, they destroy USA ina stupid war in some foreign country on the fifth continent.

London city is now working on the WWIII and let NATO=US fight it, burning away their competition, Germany, on the continental Europe, the competition, USA and conquer asian continent..

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 15:40 | 5513735 Ludwig Von
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"My friends, we either take our nation back from neocons and zionists or we may all be dead soon." And so we Europeans also have to do.

Can I repost your comment ? 

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 19:22 | 5514678 Monty Burns
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Go long on Raytheon.

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 14:30 | 5513406 insanelysane
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Somewhere a bald Scicilian is saying to never get in a ground war in Asia.

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 14:32 | 5513413 wharfdaddy
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WATCH THIS! It's all about Eurasia...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3q0qau8f0w8

 

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 15:40 | 5513515 NubianSundance
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Thanks for posting. interesting video.

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 14:46 | 5513479 jtg
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Russia and Putin have come out on top in several engagements with the West over the last decade, and when the US and its EU vassals can't win in fair competition they will resort to using the military.

The US is acting each day more like a thug state like another did in the 1930's. The US thinks it is 'indispensable and exceptional' like another that thought it was 'uber alles'.

The East is coalescing and is being exceptionally diplomatic to avoid a catastrophic reaction from the super debt cycle collapsing West. The moment of truth is coming when the East draws a line that the West should not cross. Will the US with its 'supreme unto itself' attitude still cross that line which will plunge the world into a terrible catastrophe?

I am extremely pessimistic about our future. Carl Jung thought that we might just barely turn the corner to avoid the worst of the Cold War nuclear standoff. What a tragedy that the US and its EU vassals did not accept peace and will take the world again to the edge of catastrophe.

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 19:21 | 5514673 Monty Burns
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A soft correction: This 'uber alles' trope is just another weapon used against Germans - and by extended inference all White nations. If you read the full context it becomes clear that it means German citizens putting the country above all else, not Germany taking over the whole world.

Thu, 12/04/2014 - 07:18 | 5515979 August
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Thanks, Monty, for pointing that out.

The lyrics to the Deutschland Lied are patriotic, not supremacist, or Nazi.

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 14:47 | 5513490 kchrisc
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There are no amount of Goy that Greater Israel is not willing to sacrifice for their Lebensraum, pipeline and water rights.

An American, not US subject.

 

What does Greater Israel call the last living Palestinian in Gaza? "Failure."

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 16:45 | 5514125 TeethVillage88s
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Ukraine is the New Suddentenland.

- USA was the Old Suddentenland till
- 2008-2009 when they secured most assets
- Institutionalized Debt of Households
- Destroyed Interest on Savings with QE
- Strengthened Bankruptcy Laws against Individuals
- Secured a Slave Work Force by Off-Shoring, Outsourcing, Doing LBOs & Mergers, NAFTA, CAFTA-DR, Free Trade, and Decapitalizing Manufacturing

US Labor is now a Captive Beholden to Elites & Washington DC.

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 14:49 | 5513505 Falling Down
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Tanks are so 1917. Whg doesn't Obama send Snoopy over with his biplan?

Putin channels Sun Tzu and plays chess, while the West play Risk.

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 18:20 | 5514450 scrappy
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The Sopwith Camel is busy in the Syrian desert.

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 14:52 | 5513511 JR
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Our enemies at home are revealing themselves and it’s not going to keep going forever. From Ron Paul:

Ron Paul weighs in on Obama's new Pentagon chief (VIDEO) | RT

“Paul told RT the problem is that America has taken it upon itself to be involved around the world for the last 13 years, but that ‘we don’t know when we start, where we start, where we end, how long it will last.  He said when the US previously declared war, it knew who the enemy was and determined an end point. Now, however, Paul claims Americans are told they are in an ‘endless’ war.”

RT reports:

The White House is expected to nominate Ashton Carter as the new Defense Secretary to replace outgoing Pentagon chief Chuck Hagel, but Former Texas Congressman Ron Paul said not to expect much as US foreign policy doesn’t make sense.

Ashton Carter is a career Department of Defense man and spent at least five years holding the number two and three positions. Carter also has an academic background as a Rhodes Scholar [CFR] and a Harvard professor who headed a program called the Preventative Defense Project, but Paul says his appointment would be a sign the Obama administration has no effective foreign policy strategy. …

Regarding the candidates that have been suggested to head the Pentagon, Paul said they are establishment people who know about government intervention and endorse the idea of being involved overseas.

They don’t agree with me on the policy that non-intervention – minding our own business would be best for America – and that’s so clearly understood there’s nobody that would question the lack of understanding of that type of policy. I would expect they are not going to find anybody who can carry out a policy that nobody understands.”

http://rt.com/usa/210915-ron-paul-pentagon-ashton-carter/

Carter: A man who says "yes,' rather than "no."

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 16:38 | 5514084 TeethVillage88s
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Dr. John Coleman has written many books. I haven't read his stuff yet, but found a book on PDF. Pretty interesting how so many US & UK institutes cross-pollinate and connect to our Secret Agencies.

Seems Ashton Carter was a Rhodes Scholar at Oxford like Bill Clinton... this is one of the Institutes that Coleman has charted out in this Secret Government.

There is also a Video that provides a quick summary of Coleman's work if it can be validated.

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 15:09 | 5513585 GVB
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Why so many tanks. Nutballs.

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 15:16 | 5513613 orangegeek
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just put cases of vodka on the russian side and let the booze take care of the rest

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 15:31 | 5513673 sam i am
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Thanks God for Putin and Russia's new military defense doctrine: Russia will respond with a nuclear strike against the U.S. if NATO attacks.  

a la guerre comme a la guerre

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 15:35 | 5513701 RabbitOne
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We are now like Rome was at her end. Rome sent troops to fight glorious battles all over the world for the republic. What Rome like America failed to see is the government is crumbling within from greed and corruption and economy is laid waste. You cannot fight and sustain wars under these circumstances..

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 15:43 | 5513746 JRobby
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No tanks involved pushing ISIS back to the shit holes they crawled out of I guess?

That might not start WWIII

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 15:48 | 5513782 Hamm Jamm
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GREAT DISTRACTION from the BANKING CRISIS !

cold war is a nothing war... will never happen !  otherwise everything ends life on this planet ...

Can you think of bigger cowards on the planet than our rich Banker politician leaders...   and they will go to war only if you fight it for them..    step up and give up your life so a BANKER can get rich !

 

WAR IS FAKE !

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 16:14 | 5513943 theyjustcantstop
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there's no coincedences in americas fed. politics, was it yesterday, or the day before, out of the blue, fed. spokesperson comes out, no, war isn't good for americas economy.

today their pushing war, and of course a large MIC order, (ie. a big loan from BIS, the fed.), this doesn't smell, it reeks of economic hazards to come.

i assume these nato countries are fully aware wstf they will be without air- bases, and capitol cities, with-in an hour from the start, the next 24 hrs. will be a systematic disabling of their power supply, france won't like that.

since the break-up of the soviet union, what has russia done to endanger the eu, look at the danger the us., and nato has put them in. 

how can 90% of americans, europeans, and russians, enlightened with the unfiltered truth, avoid these actions, but have no say?

with this many 100's of millions of human lifes on the line, only a few of the worlds most powerful like-minded individuals could keep this up.

i'm thinking there is constantly a nuclear sub with-in range of opec's oil fields, and as usual in the middle-east, a large %age of their population are centralized.

 

 

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 19:13 | 5514651 Monty Burns
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I interact with a lot of people all over Europe and apart from one guy in Latvia not one of them is on board with this anti-Russian hysteria.  Probably because they realize that their families, not those of the neocons, will be on the receiving end of any conflagration that might arise.

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 16:14 | 5513947 Hanging Harry
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Putin is helping Iran develop nuclear weapons at break neck speed.  He is sending all kinds of arms (missles, etc) to South and Latin America.  Keep in mind that it would only take one ICBM launched from a barge in the Caribbean with a 10 megaton nuclear device to permanently take out the entire American power grid.  AND we talk about the quality of tanks in Europe?????  We've already lost the war!

Thu, 12/04/2014 - 05:35 | 5515920 dreadnaught
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Good for him!  STFU on your whining Russia bashing

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 16:17 | 5513967 Atomizer
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Ultimate Factories_ M1 Abrams Tank

 

Something looks wrong with the picture of tank on top of thread. Oh, it’s the wrong camouflage in a snow driven cock fight. I guess they need to wait for spring.

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 16:53 | 5514133 SmittyinLA
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Too bad comradskis your Kenyan Commie President retired the A-10s and invested in Ospreys and Ebola!

Your loss is our gain, next we buy Germany in foreclosure auction and drive the gay diversity mob into England to finish the job.

 

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 16:57 | 5514183 shovelhead
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Pffftt.

This is a spine building gesture for a Gumby-like Germany.

It's working already. Look how tough Steinmeier is talking.

 

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 17:06 | 5514222 TeethVillage88s
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Germany is still celebrating its return to status of "Noble Power of Europe" after 2006 World Cup Matches.

NATO & CIA are totally misreading the Germany people. This will be the end of NATO due to US Meddling.

Wed, 12/03/2014 - 22:30 | 5515282 IronForge
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Because DU Armored Tanks with DU Rounds from the USA are so much better at providing security and prosperity for Eastern Europe than Commerce of Gas and Goods with Russia.

Thu, 12/04/2014 - 00:35 | 5515632 bid the soldier...
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Radical Marijuana is fond of Sun Tzu's observation, "All warfare is based on deception." It follows then that he/she must also see the logic in an other of his observations: "“Appear weak when you are strong, and strong when you are weak.” 


Thus, the real danger of those hundred tanks are not the tanks themselves, but that someone in the US Army has discovered Sun Tzu.


Putin, get ready to BE AFRAID

/sarc

Thu, 12/04/2014 - 01:55 | 5515749 DeusHedge
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I worry about the way technology has taken us. If you admit that a jokester could hack the entire power grid and rack up over a trillion in losses, you're not mistaken. But how is our diplomacy, news media, or, erm this site immune to messing with the kgb?

Thu, 12/04/2014 - 03:13 | 5515820 Jano
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Against whom will the tanks fight? Against the enemy of NATO.

Who is the enemy of NATO? today Russia.

Tomorrow Ukraine.

in few months Porosenko will be ousted and replaced by Nazis total.

The nazis will attack Poland to trigger the clause 5 of NATO treaty. 

NATO will invade Ukraine in retaliation and roll over Doneck/Krim.

Russia will strat WWIII.

So the tanks are basically against Ukraine AND Russia

Thu, 12/04/2014 - 03:40 | 5515857 Joe A
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All you need to remember in this issue is: "Fuck the EU".

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