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Russian Central Bank Intervention Is Losing Its Mojo, Bond Yields Crash Over 12%

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The Bank of Russia this week made its heaviest currency intervention in more than a month, according to WSJ, to try to stem the escalating trend of Ruble collapse... but it's not working. Chatter of three significant interventions this week (which are quite apparent in the USDRUB chart) have had less and less positive impact on the currency and even with warnings of jail for FX speculators, the post-intervention selling continues. It appears, however, that the main pressure today is in the Russian bond market as 10Y RUB Bonds cracked 80bps higher to 12.04% yield... the pressure mounts on Putin.

 

As WSJ reports,

Central bank data showed Friday that it spent $1.9 billion to ease downward pressure on the ruble on Wednesday after selling $700 million on Monday.

 

The central bank eliminated regular interventions and let the ruble float freely in early November after the nearly $30 billion it spent from reserves failed to stop the ruble’s rapid depreciation in October. Despite the free-float policy, the central bank said it retains the right to intervene suddenly and at any level if it deems the country’s financial stability is threatened by the ruble rate.

 

On Thursday, President Vladimir Putin asked the central bank to save the ruble from falling. The central bank later warned it may open an investigation into the possible manipulation of the ruble, which has lost some 40% of its value against the dollar due to massive capital flight, sliding oil prices and Western sanctions.

Interventions having less and less impact...

 

as The Ruble tracks the price of oil almost perfectly off the highs...

 

One wonders if FX speculation warnings pushed speculators into the bond market....

 

Charts: Bloomberg

 

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Fri, 12/05/2014 - 10:21 | 5520241 FreeShitter
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Putin is running out of time, the west can keep this up for awhile longer. Come on putin dont let these motherfuckers break you.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 10:25 | 5520252 1000yrdstare
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War is a good fix for this...get them young bucks out there worried about getting their head blown off than about how shitty their .GOV is.....same as it ever was..

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 10:25 | 5520271 Haus-Targaryen
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The West wants a war with Russia, and BAD. 

Putin knows he just has to outlast them.  

Dear Mr. Putin, either back your shit with Gold, or oil.  

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 10:29 | 5520280 LawsofPhysics
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The Russian people have been through hardship before.  This is nothing new.

Shut off fucking SNAP cards and end all the corporate subsidies in the good old U.S. and let's see how everyone does.

Yes, what part of all fiat will go to zero don't people understand?

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 10:40 | 5520290 Looney
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It didn’t take long… Just yesterday, the head of a major Russian Bank said that if Russia is kicked out of the SWIFT, it will be treated as the declaration of war and the US Ambassador should pack his shit and leave the country immediately.

And today, the EU has softened the sanctions against Russian Banks, allowing them to borrow from EU banks with a maturity EXCEEDING 30 days.

Looney

Check out 6-a,b and 7-a,b in today’s  Official Journal of the European Union issue.

http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=uriserv:OJ.L_.2014.34...

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 10:34 | 5520304 pendragon
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that was before they'd ever known relative prosperity. it's different this time.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 11:05 | 5520440 chindit13
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Exactly.  Past generations in the US walked or drove wagons three thousand miles through snow and hostile territory and settled the West.  Their descendents, for the most part, lack that moxie.  Russia is no different.  The ones who stood toe-to-toe with the Germans at Stalingrad are dead.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 11:32 | 5520499 Zwelgje
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Ze Germans back in the day also made some comparison: the lowly Ruskies who defeated the Grand Armee of Napoleon are long dead. This time we'll succeed because they became much weaker cause of Bolshevism!

Wrong.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 14:36 | 5521238 tarabel
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Our final score in WWIII:

Gipper: 1

Empire of Evil: falls apart

Our final score in WWI:

Hindenburg/Ludendorff: 1

Lenin: surrenders even though he is on the winning side

Our final score in the Crimean War:

England/France unity team: 1

Czars: 0

Our final score in the Russo-Japanese War: 

Japan:1

Russia: -1 (they got a revolution out of the deal as well as a defeat)

Time will tell which Russia shows up for the final round. Given the desperate efforts to encourage FX returns and frantically develop alternative markets, it is not clear that the autarch of the Grand Duchy of Evil shares everyone's confidence in its ability to indefinitely hold off the West.

 

 

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 16:48 | 5521724 Max Steel
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Japan wasn't your bitch at that time 

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 11:36 | 5520552 THE DORK OF CORK
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I fail to see how the Russian domestic economy is anything like the euro entrepot.

The avotovaz car factory is probally the last vertically integrated plant in the world.

its population density is absurdly scarce.

Its got a huge surplus of oil.

All they need is cash........

No need for French style capital investment.

 

The Europeans must return to village life but the Russians can engage in a for dist experiment  at any time.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 14:26 | 5521203 tarabel
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Or on the dole.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 10:35 | 5520312 yogibear
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Shut off SNAP and their will be riots.

The oligarchs know people are subdued as long as you keep them fed and fill the media with propaganda. 

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 10:36 | 5520319 BlindMonkey
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The wife is heading to Moscow to buy a lot to build on in Jan. so personally, this has been a gift for me.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 11:20 | 5520507 Titus
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What region/location? You got a lead on something good?

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 12:03 | 5520671 BlindMonkey
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Nothing as sexy as a hot tip on ZH right?

Sorry to disappoint. It is fairly pedestrian. We are buying a lot for her family to build a house on. Retail transaction so nothing to see here, move along.

:)

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 13:09 | 5520941 FXD
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"The Russian people have been through hardship before.  This is nothing new."

 Yes, Zimbabwe people too. Mugabe! Mugabe! Mugabe!

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 14:24 | 5521201 tarabel
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Quite the recommendation for being a Russian. I kind of thought the idea behind a government was to avoid hardship rather than repeatedly inflicting it so that the people build up a tolerance for living in a shit hole.

It's the argument I have with the current US administration.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 10:28 | 5520285 pendragon
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crap. a far better strategy is lower oil. putin's days are numbered

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 10:33 | 5520308 Haus-Targaryen
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I think before Putin goes, he drops he $200 Billion in USTs into the market.  That is equivlant to 2.5 months of QE4eva at $80 billion a month.  Interest rates would spike, and because the Chinese and Japanese aren't buying it anymore, someone would have to step in and buy it.  He takes it into the Ruple -- that is essentially the size of Russian debt.  

The idea of a color revolution in Russia is laughable without the West's financial system getting wiped out as well.  

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 10:37 | 5520323 Titus
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Winter is coming. Perhaps the best weapon of all.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 10:43 | 5520349 SoDamnMad
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Our city is running on biomass. Haven't run the gas boilers since the central heat was turned on.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 10:39 | 5520330 pendragon
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2.5 months of QE is peanuts in the scheme of things.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 10:42 | 5520342 SoDamnMad
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drop the 200 billion on the market. We'll buy it for 100 billion. Not.   95 plus S&H. You wanna sell. Find a buyer and a price.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 10:51 | 5520389 pendragon
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cabinet bid

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 10:56 | 5520409 chindit13
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Rates might spike for five minutes.  G to the bathroom and you'd miss it.  Buyers would lower their bids and hose the little guy, that is, if the UST did not default by CUSIP.  Even China might snap them up through the Belgian sub it set up after Geithner gave the Chinese Government Primary Dealer status.  Russia's economy and its reserves are rounding errors.  Puti has maybe $300 billion of reserves left, and with the late 90s still fresh in people's minds, he has trouble getting funding. Hence the 12%.  Compared to the approximately $50 trillion US capital markets, Russia is nothing.  He couldn't even wipe out Estonia's financial system.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 11:05 | 5520447 pendragon
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CB is intervening right now so less than 300bio of reserves

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 13:23 | 5520986 GoldSilverBitcoinBug
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Nope, +400

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 13:55 | 5521093 angel_of_joy
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They can always default. See who's losing then...

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 13:13 | 5520961 Livermore Legend
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".......Compared to the approximately $50 trillion US capital markets, Russia is nothing....."

'Nuff' Said......

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 11:11 | 5520460 oudinot
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Russia only owns about 125 Billion UST's; he cannot therefore sell 200 billion UST's

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 13:27 | 5520995 where_is the_nuke
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 China can.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 14:20 | 5521192 tarabel
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And thus dump the value of their remaining holdings into the Middle Kingdom equivalent of la toilette. I'm sure your suggestion will meet with a polite rejection from the managers of the Chinese Communist Party's joint 401k program, aka Chinese national FX holdings.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 12:01 | 5520668 GoldSilverBitcoinBug
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I think before Putin goes, he drops he $200 Billion in USTs into the market.  That is equivlant to 2.5 months of QE4eva at $80 billion a month.

Margin call those bitchez (Soros, Jaresco and consort) make them

bleeding !

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 10:35 | 5520318 Titus
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To the owner of this bot, it's repeating itself verbatim from thread to thread.

Plz fix with some more interesting, varying commentary.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 10:36 | 5520326 pendragon
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putin fluffers on the thread

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 10:42 | 5520345 Titus
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Again, VERBATIM. Plz fix asap.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 10:42 | 5520350 SoilMyselfRotten
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<~~~ Putin fluffer

<~~~ Obama toadie

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 10:46 | 5520368 pendragon
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i am free minded libertarian. you sir are a putin fluffer

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 11:34 | 5520568 TheFourthStooge-ing
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.

i am free minded libertarian.

Made me laugh. US propagandists never rest.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 14:18 | 5521181 tarabel
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US rules the world. Even strange foreign propagandists love to use American imagery to define themselves.

 

Send me your address and I'll ship off a sack of potatoes to you for Christmas.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 14:24 | 5521198 bid the soldier...
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tarabel

US rules the world

If they do, they are certainly doing one colossal fucked up job.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 15:34 | 5521411 TheFourthStooge-ing
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That is laughable. More please.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 14:00 | 5521113 angel_of_joy
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You are a boring troll, with a stupid cat as avatar... nothing more.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 14:16 | 5521169 tarabel
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As always, I enjoy reading the hateful insults spewing out of the mouth of the alleged Angel of Joy. Don't agree but I can still revel in the irony of it all. 

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 14:42 | 5521258 angel_of_joy
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There's nothing hateful in it, so you can revel all you want... For an alleged "libertarian" you are pathetically PC.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 15:07 | 5521333 pendragon
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truth hurts eh - now get back to fluffing duties. putin loses wood every time the oil proce drops.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 15:37 | 5521420 TheFourthStooge-ing
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You made me laugh with this one. Good luck in trying to illustrate this point.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 16:53 | 5521744 Max Steel
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Russian manufacturing PMI blew past all the forecasts showing healthy expansion - oh, this must so pain them to have to report it - I wonder that they couldn't weave in the "Western sanctions begin to bite" meme! Russia Nov. Manufacturing PMI 51.7 vs 50.3 in October Dec. 1 (Bloomberg) -- HSBC and Markit Economics release purchasing managers’ index for Russia manufacturing in November. Forecast range from 49.9 to 50.2 from 6 economists Index rises to 51.7 from 50.3 in Oct.; Year ago 49.4 Highest reading since Oct. 2013 Fifth consecutive month of expansion New Orders rise to 53.9 vs 51.4 in Oct. Highest reading since Oct. 2013 Fifth consecutive month of expansion Reading above 50 signals expansion, less than 50 a contraction .  Take it wet dragon 

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 18:17 | 5522031 pendragon
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good luck with your optimism for the russian economy

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 10:40 | 5520332 McCormick No. 9
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The Saudis say oil will stabilize somewhere in the neighborhood of 60/bbl. That oil price hard floor will also be the hard floor for the ruble. I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed, but if I were Putin, I'd take a look at this hard fooor and ask myself, "How well can we do at this level, and for how long?" It's not that hard to calculate, and then to take countermeasures to contain the problem.

Russia's central bank is run by Rothschild scum. Nabuillina is just a figurehead. Every crisis is an opportunity. Maybe Putin will sieze the chance to nationalize the central bank and print debt-free government money. Now, THAT would mean war.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 10:44 | 5520357 pendragon
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markets overshoot in both directions. it's about how long the price stays depressed.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 11:11 | 5520458 Kirk2NCC1701
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No overshooting. Just shooting.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 11:13 | 5520477 McCormick No. 9
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I agree. And I doubt it (oil) will stay down for long. there was a ZH article about this yesterday, so this is just a brief recap:

1. Oil price drop is about oversupply in a demand-short market.

2. Oil price drop will kill off the expensive to produce oil.

3. Price drop will spur demand.

4. Curves reverse- supply short, greater demand, price goes up.

5. Demand in developing nations is less elastic than in more developed ones. Since most people use just a little oil, but can't really cut back (or buy more) on what they use, the demand floor for oil is fairly solid. In fact, demand charts don't show decreases, just a shallower upward trend, towards 93 mbbl/day.

6. But supply is more elastic- at least on the decrease. It is much harder to bring back supply, especially in capital-intensive areas like deepwater, shale, and other non-conventional plays. Current capital market dynamics (yield spike!) mean it will be harder to get funding to restart abandoned production.

7. So, takeaway, ask yourself how long it will take for lower oil prices to destroy the shale ponzi and shut down shale production, and you have your answer for how long the price will stay depressed. Be prepared for prices to surge well above the 150/bbl mark, and the next "plunge" will bring us "back" to 100/bbl, all without shale.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 11:26 | 5520510 pendragon
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agreed absent the economic ice age that we are all expecting. i would also add not to underestimate saudi's resolve to shaft russia and iran. pump and dump (oil) hits them where it really hurts.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 14:08 | 5521123 angel_of_joy
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It's funny how it only hits Russia, or Iran, but never the US shale oil industry, or Canada's oil sands, or any "green" industry of choice... or even Saudis own budget. That's what educated people would call PROPAGANDA...

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 14:14 | 5521163 tarabel
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Who has the longer tail when it comes to surviving an energy price war? Russia and Iran are absolute slaves to the stuff, US and Canada not so much due to diversified economies. Hurting oil producers has different imapcts when one oil producer is a nation and the other oil producer is a company.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 14:49 | 5521280 angel_of_joy
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Wishful thinking when it comes to the "diversity" on the North American economy.

First of all, they both have big deficits, commercial and fiscal. So, they print more and get more indebted each year. Sure, it doesn't matter because they are so "exceptional"...

Second of all, both countries have the export profile of a 3rd world country. And oil makes up for a HUGE part of their GDP. No much difference between them and Russia. You might want to re-check your assuptions...

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 15:45 | 5521442 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Don't disturb the US world order as it is perceived by US citizens. They love so much their cocoon of duplicity. Facts would be too hard on them.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 13:56 | 5521100 post turtle saver
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I recall saying many moons ago that Russia's CB telegraphed $60 bbl would be their trigger to intervene... well, here we are with Saudi's confirming that's exactly where they expect it to stabilize...

it's called "push 'em right to the edge, but not over"

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 10:54 | 5520399 HowdyDoody
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Who knows, maybe the currency problems will affect Russia's ability to maintain the gas flow. Wouldn't it be tragic if a valve was to freeze shut on Christmas Eve? Or in early January just as the cold weather really sets in.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 14:09 | 5521148 tarabel
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Russia and Europe have a symbiotic energy relationship. Previous Russian mini-embargoes have been met with increased interest in alternatives that are becoming available due to shale oil developments. There is a definite "Sell by" date on Putin's ability to threaten Europe. A year or two is all that he has left, then poof goes his leverage and he trundles off to Peking to become their little squealing buttboy.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 14:27 | 5521212 JustUsChickensHere
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HAD a symbiotic relationship. End of South Stream means the EU has an energy drought for the next three decades (at least) ..... Ooops

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 14:48 | 5521281 MiTasol
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So in a year or two what exactly will EU be burning to keep warm?  Hot air?

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 15:48 | 5521471 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Always made me laugh to read this kind of big delusion. This is the internet. Feel free to speak your mind and use that freedom to divorce from reality.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 11:02 | 5520431 Kirk2NCC1701
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Drastic times and drastic measures?

Funny how QE worked for the US and Japan, but won't for Russia.

Time for some real Ass-symmetric payback, or they'll just keep piling on.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 10:32 | 5520298 yogibear
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The Federal Reserve  and the IMF banksters are determined to punish him for not playing their game.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 14:03 | 5521129 angel_of_joy
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Get their money, then default selectively. Ideal way to say FY to banksters...

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 10:33 | 5520305 exi1ed0ne
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He doesn't have to outlast the US, but he will outlast Europe.  That's all thats needed, and they are already caving in.  Isolating Russia is turning into US isolation.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 11:55 | 5520636 noben
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Looks like we have us a full-press Currency War plus Sanctions.  This is War in everything but Declaration.

Someone sent me this Jim Rickards link on YT, which I see is also on his blogspot: Project Prophecy 2.0.  If this is correct, then the fiat war-room at Langley and the Fed is going full tilt.  They are merely front-running the BRIICS attempt to create their own SWIFT and Russia is getting SWIFT-boated, as an early Christmas gift.

p.s. China, don't think you're getting out of this alive... you're next, and will fold like a Made in China Costco tent, if Russia folds.  How's that go again... 'United we stand, divided we fall'?

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 12:48 | 5520871 DoChenRollingBearing
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China is much stronger than Russia.

Siberia will go to China.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 14:31 | 5521221 JustUsChickensHere
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Siberia to China... perhaps, but not for another 10 years ... after Putin and XI retire .... there was probably a handshake deal on that.

 

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 14:50 | 5521284 angel_of_joy
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Siberia won't go anywhere. Russia has more nukes... which can be targeted anywhere.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 16:55 | 5521756 Max Steel
Fri, 12/05/2014 - 13:45 | 5521058 post turtle saver
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we're looking at 12% yield on 10 year notes here... this isn't a choice of "letting" someone break you or not, you're getting broken regardless

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 10:21 | 5520243 Quinvarius
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They can buy their own bonds as well as the US and Europe.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 10:24 | 5520259 Ivanovich
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Well, they could, but inflation is already double digits.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 10:35 | 5520313 exi1ed0ne
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Just like the US and Europe.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 10:43 | 5520356 Quinvarius
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It doesn't matter.  They can make their bond yields go as stupid negative as Europe whenever they want.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 10:26 | 5520270 fuu
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Certain Cyrillic currency circle-jerk coming, commensing countdown 3...2...1...

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 10:24 | 5520247 Titus
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Hang George Soros.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 10:41 | 5520331 BlindMonkey
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That should have been done 70 years ago when he was just a simple Nazi colaborator.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 10:42 | 5520338 Titus
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Or Nazi instigator, depending on how you view Zionists. Interesting read is the UNEDITED version of Anne Frank's diary, she talks about the Zionist meetings occuring in her neighborhood.

Anyway, better late than never.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 10:57 | 5520412 McCormick No. 9
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Thye edited a forgery, and then released the unedited version? Amazing!

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 11:04 | 5520437 chindit13
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He was between 9 and 14 years old during WWII.  How did you behave when you were a child and Nazi's invaded your country and began exterminating people of your ethnicity?  Hang yourself, fella.  Do the world a favor.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 11:22 | 5520513 Quinvarius
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Sors was definately a NAZI collaborator.  That is a historical fact.  He was involved in the confiscation of Jewish property when they were sent off to concentration camps.  Where do you think his money came from?

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 11:29 | 5520545 Titus
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He's a product of a movement, doesn't matter if he was the first, supporting it is his life's work.

How did the German's behave when deprived property through a Jewish owned credit and banking system? They question is who struck first, it wasn't the Nazis, they just capitalized on the mood.

 

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 13:30 | 5521002 where_is the_nuke
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Two kikes downvoted you.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 10:48 | 5520379 headhunt
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Everyone but George agrees with that

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 10:27 | 5520248 LawsofPhysics
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So, time to set some dry powder aside to buy the Ruble and Russian bonds...   ...again.  Awesome, the 90's are back!

/s

idiots

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 10:55 | 5520401 McCormick No. 9
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Bond yield spikes are contagious... haven't we seen this movie before? I think it was called "Goldman the Greek." This new one is called "Dr. Zhi-Goldman," or is it, "From Goldman with Love"?

Here goes the US, cutting off the nose once again to spite their face...shooting themselves in the foot...belly-flopping from the high dive... with yield contagion already infecting the HY markets (shale oil meltdown), does it make sense to set bonds on fire somewhere else?

No, of course not, but when, in the macabre sandy hook word we live in, did making sense matter?

As the Queen of Hearts said to Alice,

“My dear, here we must run as fast as we can, just to stay in place. And if you wish to go anywhere you must run twice as fast as that.”

It seems to me that pulling your opponenets cards out of the house of cards everyone shares is a bad policy, but I am sure my point of view is not short-term enough to understand the wisdom of destroying the global economy, just so one nation can be king of the ash-heap.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 10:58 | 5520418 LawsofPhysics
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Yep.  By they way, if that's a potash heap, it is actually worth something.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 11:20 | 5520509 McCormick No. 9
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Potash is good, but I love me some potassium nitrate. You take fermented pig manure, and mix in the potash, and then pour in water. You collect the leach liquid and dry it out to obtain the whitish salt. Fuckin' A! You can give me anything nitrated, and I'm happy. A little KNO3, some charcoal, some lead, and some kind of steel tube with mounted ergonomics, and I am like a pig in shit!

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 11:33 | 5520566 LawsofPhysics
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Nice to see another person with tradeable skills.  The future is ours.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 11:48 | 5520617 Titus
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I think I just fell a little in love with you...

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 14:02 | 5521127 tarabel
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I wonder how all those investors who thought Russian bonds paying 9.5 % were a great buy feel about today's news.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 10:23 | 5520250 the not so migh...
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decouple faster

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 10:23 | 5520255 Sudden Debt
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I KNOW HOW TO FIX THAT!!!

BERNY AND TIMMEAH ARE OUT OF JOBS!!

HIRE THEM, AND FIX THE BOND TROUBLE AND ADD 2 FULL TIME EMPLOYEES TO THE US EMPLOYMENT CHARTS!

man... I should work for the government...

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 10:25 | 5520269 Russian Men
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We will not surrender!

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 14:02 | 5521120 tarabel
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Nobody is asking you to.

 

We would like it, however, if you would keep your mitts off of other people's real estate.

 

These problems could all go away tomorrow if you would stop trying to steal parts of Ukraine

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 14:30 | 5521218 Latina Lover
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The Ukraine is a joke that get funnier each time you tell it. No one wants to steal your shitty country.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 15:16 | 5521356 ThirdWorldDude
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True dat, it's already been sold to the highest bidding jew.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 16:14 | 5521576 TheFourthStooge-ing
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We would like it, however, if you would keep your mitts off of other people's real estate.

Excellent. US propaganda is a recursive, self feeding phenomenum. US citizens have this knack at creating fantasy they later consider as part of reality. It also shows how US citizens are keen on worshipping tales.

Lets put back this bit of fantasy and relish on it to see the power of denial, of dismissal of immediate reality US citizens can display.

These problems could all go away tomorrow if you would stop trying to steal parts of Ukraine

Another non sense, trademark of US cheap propaganda. It is exactly the kind of failed reasoning that can be expected from US propagandists. Welcome to delusional land.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 16:33 | 5521661 Winston of Oceania
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Good prisoners are a pain in the ass.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 16:58 | 5521763 Max Steel
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stop trolling .

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 10:28 | 5520278 Mike Masr
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BRICS nations need to sell US Treasuries and buy Chinese and Russian bonds.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 10:28 | 5520288 LawsofPhysics
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You sir, are clearly a terrorist!

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 10:46 | 5520371 headhunt
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You mean support the communists?

 

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 11:54 | 5520637 TheFourthStooge-ing
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You mean support the communists?

No, stupid, he said sell US treasuries.

Tue, 12/09/2014 - 12:53 | 5532955 headhunt
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That is supporting the communists - stupid.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 10:57 | 5520414 chindit13
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Russia can't even keep domestic capital at home.  The other BRICS are too stupid to see that?  Hardly.  The BICS will buy Argentina and Venezuela before they would buy Russia.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 17:02 | 5521775 Max Steel
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That's why they are offering amnesty .

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 10:27 | 5520281 Debugas
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it is not the government debt which is huge but the private companies debt so russian treasury bonds are safe except for the ruble itself

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 10:45 | 5520358 headhunt
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"so russian treasury bonds are safe except for the ruble itself"

You cannot separate the two, that is like saying ice cream won't melt if it wasn't ice cream.

 

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 10:29 | 5520293 headhunt
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Putin understands military tactics but is lost in economic tactics.

You cannot artificially support a monetary system if no one is willing to play.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 10:34 | 5520314 Au Member
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Putin has a Phd in economics. I think he knows his shit and being ex-fsb is fully versed in the tactics being employed against Russia

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 10:40 | 5520328 Titus
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Putin does not have a PhD in economics but his actions make it clear he knows the forces being used against him. He's keeping the borders open hoping for capital repatriation.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 10:49 | 5520382 rejected
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A degree in economics..... There's the problem!

Like a extra 4 years makes one a genius. We have Harrrrrvord Phd's running our conomy.... What a great job they're doing.

When "education" reaches the levels we see in the ussa inventions and skills disappear as everyone already knows everything there is to know. 

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 10:37 | 5520320 LawsofPhysics
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If you have access to or control of calories available for consumption you can actually do and build things (required for a real economy).

Want some Russian Oil?  Pay in gold or Rubles or go fuck yourself.  Supporting a fake monetary system might feel good for a while, but ther will be consequences, history is very clear on that.

 

It is also very clear that the E.Z. is more than willing to "play" in exchange for those Russian resources.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 10:37 | 5520329 Debugas
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most of USD russia gets by selling its oil is used to buy food from abroad

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 10:45 | 5520359 LawsofPhysics
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Good for me.  The Russians could grow their own just fine, one reason why they are interested in the Ukraine.

What's your point, that their government is corrupt?  No shit sherlock.  How does allowing our government to become as corrupt as theirs help again?  That's the fucking point.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 10:58 | 5520422 HowdyDoody
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most of USD russia gets by selling its oil is used to buy gold from abroad

FTFY.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 11:14 | 5520488 headhunt
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Sorry - not so.

Russia depends on oil income to keep its economy and military on track, that is why oil is being crushed, a gift from Europe and US.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 17:02 | 5521778 Max Steel
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 counter-sanctions and falling oil prices are providing massive support to Russian agriculture - which is seeing spectacular growth....Rusagro revenues up 68% YOY

Rusagro – 3Q14 IFRS; strong – BoD approves Tambov and Russian Far East expansion – Buy 
News: Rusagro has reported its 3Q14 IFRS results. Revenues reached RUB 14.7bn, up 68% YoY. EBITDA stood at RUB 4.7bn, implying an EBITDA margin of 32%. Adjusted net income was RUB 4.6bn, meaning a net margin of 31%. In 9mo14, the company generated net operating cash flow of RUB 14bn and employed RUB 3.9bn in investing activities. During the quarter, net debt went down RUB 5.6bn to RUB 3.3bn with a net debt/LTM EBITDA ratio of 0.2x. During the conference call, management stated that the BoD had approved the expansion project in Tambov and Russia’s Far East that would bring up to 230,000 tons of additional capacity in live weight pork.
Our View: The results were strong, in line with our expectations on revenue and EBITDA and outperformed by 18% on the net income level due to the higher than anticipated interest expense reimbursements and lower effective tax rate on the more favourable profit allocation between business segments. The robust results were primarily driven by further profitability build-up in the meat segment that brought an EBITDA margin of 56%, implying 5% QoQ and 34% YoY expansion. The outlook on 4Q14 prices and volumes for sugar and pork sales means that we see upside risks to our 2014F EBITDA of RUB 14bn and net income of RUB 10.3bn.
The announced greenfield volumes in pork imply double the segment’s current capacity of 220,000 tons. The company expects construction to be launched in March 2015 and already sees annual capex accelerating to RUB 10-15bn next year. Overall, the stated projects require RUB 26bn in capital expenditures and are to start delivering volumes on the three-year horizon. In the Russian Far East, Rusagro is to purchase 20-25,000 ha of land in the Ussuriysk region in January and put breeding and slaughtering facilities there. For the aforementioned projects, Rusagro has received state approvals for the subsidies on the interest payments and certain commitments on the infrastructure development. Management sees the equilibrium pork price at RUB 80/kg and expects the expansion projects to bring payback of less than seven years. The company has maintained a positive stance on Russian Far East operations for a long time and the BoD approval creates positive sentiment. As of September 2014, Rusagro had RUB 15.3bn in bank deposits and we welcome the crystalising employment of those funds. Rusagro is our top pick in the CIS agriculture universe.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 20:40 | 5522492 tvdog
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Russian imports of food are 13% of the total:

http://www.tradingeconomics.com/russia/imports

Exports of oil, petroleum products, and natural gas amounted to 68% of total exports in 2013:

http://www.tradingeconomics.com/russia/exports

In 2013, Russia had a current account surplus of 1.3% of GDP (ibid.).

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 10:33 | 5520309 Eahudimac
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Once the new swift system is in place, it will be time for Russia to flood the market with US treasuries. Don't worry, Belgium will be there to prop up the market when it happens. Buy gold, back the ruble with it, deal with the short term-pain, and then sit back and watch the ruble become the most coveted currency on Earth as the dollar  fades into oblivion. And while Putin is at it, execute any luciferian bankers that may be left infecting Russia. Putin is making his move against the cabal. They are trying to break Russia because he is not playing their game anymore.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 10:59 | 5520421 Winston of Oceania
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Hey can I get some of what you are smoking? Imagine an olgarch, ANY oligarch backing a currency by anything more than the hopes and dreams of those whom you intend to fleece. You have the mind of a child...

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 14:41 | 5521255 Jorgen
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"Once the new swift system is in place, it will be time for Russia to flood the market with US treasuries."

The Russian version of 'SWIFT' will not have been implemented until May 2015, at the earliest. Many things may happen between now and then...

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 10:36 | 5520317 q99x2
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Russia is getting in a Godzillian investors ahead of the massive economic boon to buy bonds at these higher rates. Russia is the answer to today's economic problems because of its resources and ideal location on the continent as well as its low population.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 13:58 | 5521104 tarabel
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Not to mention its many Siberian winter sports training camps.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 18:21 | 5522023 bid the soldier...
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When you're dining in a Denny's in West New York, New Jersey and the nukes start flying, being in a gay bar in Siberia would be mighty fine.

:-D

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 10:36 | 5520321 SoDamnMad
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The famous Russian response to plane crashes, dam failures and train derailments is:  "We will find those responsible and they will be punished."  (This does not apply to people who murder journalists)

So all you hedge funds that are pounding the rouble, you better stop or the polonium umbrella is gonna get you.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 12:06 | 5520682 TheFourthStooge-ing
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So all you hedge funds that are pounding the rouble, you better stop or the polonium umbrella is gonna get you.

Please, can't you come up with a better propaganda than the same old tired lies which have been debunked ad nauseam?

Used to be a time when propagandists took pride in their work and endeavored to make it seem believable. Now they simply churn out the cheapest crap which takes less time in thought to create than the time it takes to type it.

Quantity over quality, the new US way...

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 13:57 | 5521095 tarabel
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Quantity over quality...

 

Says Mr. Potato Head.

 

I know, no potato for me either, right?

 

But I don't hear much about how this is actually great news for Russia and is yet another cunning plan from Grandmaster Putin (tm)  to dethrone the West from its perch of power. 

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 17:08 | 5521803 Max Steel
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You can enjoy as long US can play its sanction game by stretching whole europe along with it ( as a vassal ) for next 20 odd years potato head . But many of your points were simply coming out from western plagued neocons media . get your facts corrected first .

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 18:08 | 5522004 bid the soldier...
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you get potato have TWO worms

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 15:38 | 5521423 red1chief
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Who said Russians kill journalists, Michael Hastings?

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 10:39 | 5520322 alrightee_then
Sun, 12/07/2014 - 01:18 | 5522799 bid the soldier...
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big mistake to stop using the RD 180

Russia will be more likely to sabotage rockets that don't have Russian engines in them.

You know, pride of craftsmanship.  

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MY BAD

I should have added On a Tit For Tat Basis

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 10:38 | 5520327 sudzee
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Putin needs to stop energy exports to Europe for a few days. 

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 14:04 | 5521128 post turtle saver
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he can't, he needs the money... just like the rest of the petro exporters who can't cut... funny that

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 18:05 | 5522002 bid the soldier...
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he doesn't because he's the only adult in the whole shebang.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 10:40 | 5520336 NRGIsFree
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I don't know how but I am quite sure Putin and company will be victorious in the end. Taking down a Nazi world government is no small task. The world will be a far better place when this is over. Putin and his alliance give me hope for my children's future. Perhaps when it gets real ugly China and Russia will disclose how much Gold they have. This would instantaneously shift wealth from where it is perceived to be by the ignorant masses to where it truly resided.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 10:41 | 5520340 yogibear
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Financialization only works for a while. The smartest strategy is for the BRICS to keep chipping at destroying the US dollar.

The Federal Reserve is also doing the same.

 

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 10:41 | 5520344 rejected
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Give Bernanke Russian citizenship and put him in charge of the central bank.

Seriously, letting their money float was an invitation to western central bank abuse. In some ways the russians are soooooo naive.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 18:04 | 5521996 bid the soldier...
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give Stanley Fischer Russian citizenship

 

fixed it 4 u

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 10:45 | 5520360 dbystrowski
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Putin is being punished for going rogue. 

How do you say SCREWED in Russian? 

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 10:59 | 5520426 Cow
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"screwdski"

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 11:32 | 5520554 dbystrowski
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lol..

that sounds more like ponglish.. (Polish/English fusion)

I think it's more like poruhany in Russian.

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