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Video Of The Day – This Is What Happens When You Call The Cops

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Submitted by Mike Krieger via Liberty Blitzkrieg blog,

 

In a healthy, moral and civilized society defined by the rule of law, police can play an important role. They should be people who come from the communities they promise to “protect and serve.” They should view themselves as a part of these communities, not as something separate and distinct. Police should see their jobs as having a great degree of risk, and must be willing to accept that risk. This means not pretending to be a solider at war, not choosing the most violent solution to every problem, and not viewing the citizenry as milk cows ready and willing to be drained of their assets via civil forfeiture.

Unfortunately, this isn’t the state of the police in America in 2014, and it’s quickly becoming obvious to everyone. Ferguson was a key moment in this awakening, when white pundits and others typically confined to less distraught communities, witnessed the militarized police in all its SWAT team horror for the first time. In the piece, “A Good Time Was Had By All” – The Obamas Dance the Night Away as Ferguson, Missouri Burns, I wrote:

I believe Ferguson will be seen as a major turning point. The point in which many well-intentioned, but incredibly naive folks in white mainstream America woke up to what we have become. Many people, particularly those in the media, have been willfully ignorant about the destruction of freedom and civil liberties in America. The events in Ferguson have taken a gigantic mirror and successfully pointed it squarely at our civil society and the image it has reflected back is one of a horrific, militarized, authoritarian monster.

Many people have strongly condemned the failure of a grand jury to indict officer Darren Wilson for the shooting of Michael Brown, but a far more disturbing failure occurred yesterday. This relates to a case from my hometown of NYC, where a cop was caught strangling an unarmed man to death in broad daylight for the non-crime of selling untaxed cigarettes. The man’s name was Eric Garner and the entire incident was caught on tape. It’s absolutely horrifying that the cops were not indicted here, and proves that like bankers, the profession is completely above the law.

I know, I know, where’s the proof? Well here’s some from FiveThirtyEight:

A St. Louis County grand jury decided Monday that police officer Darren Wilson will not face trial for shooting and killing unarmed teenager Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri. Grand juries usually return indictments; the one exception is cases involving police shootings. But more than that, police shootings, and allegations of police misconduct in general, almost never make it in front of a grand jury. And officers rarely face legal consequences for allegations of misconduct. 

This chart from the site pretty much sums it up. Read it and weep.

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Rather than giving cops the “benefit of the doubt,” I would argue that, if anything, police should be held to a higher standard. This is because once the general population starts to lose trust in cops things can get very nasty, very quickly. This trust is important and it needs to be based on reality, not propaganda.

To understand how absurd the lack of an indictment is in the Garner case specifically, the Huffington Post notes:

Grand juries are meant to determine only whether there is “probable cause” to indict a criminal suspect — a standard far lower than the “beyond a reasonable doubt” standard that comes into play when deciding guilt at trial. Federal prosecutors secured indictments in more than 99.9 percent of the 162,000 cases they brought before grand juries in 2010. But in Missouri and New York, two grand juries decided that even that low hurdle had not been surmounted. 

How you can watch that video and not see probable cause is simply beyond me.

With that in mind, watch the following powerful video: This Is What Happens When You Call the Cops

The video highlighted several cases that I’ve written about here at Liberty Blitzkrieg.

Here’s a refresher:

Baby Bou Bou: 19-Month-Old Toddler in Critical Condition After Cops Throw Flash Bang Grenade into Playpen

James Boyd: Rebellion in the USA – Protesters Take Over Albuquerque City Council and Attempt to Arrest Police Chief

David Eckert: How a Routine Traffic Stop in New Mexico Turned into a Nightmare of Torture for David Eckert

*Photo at the top from the New York Daily News.

 

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Fri, 12/05/2014 - 16:36 | 5521656 Latina Lover
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Extra judicial killing by police is typical of a crony capitalist, aka fascist system. So is civil forfeiture, a practice typical to third world nations where the police are often referred to as thieves in uniforms.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 16:37 | 5521677 ACP
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"Protect and Serve" myself to some free cash...

...is more like it.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 16:41 | 5521687 Deathrips
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Cops do not work for the people/citizenry, they work for the money printers.

 

There is no accountability, if they "mess up" taxpayers get the bill.

Extortion Racket 101.

Please try and pay attention in class.

 

RIPS

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 16:40 | 5521691 insanelysane
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The have quotas to fill; tickets, arrests, etc.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 16:52 | 5521707 Pladizow
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I prefer the classic and prophetic "FUCK THE POLICE" by NWA!

There is no crueler tyranny than that which is perpetuated under the shield of law and in the name of justice." — Charles de Montesquieu

 

 

“Police are inevitably corrupted. ... Police always observe that criminals prosper. It takes a pretty dull policeman to miss the fact that the position of authority is the most prosperous criminal position available.” -Frank Herbert

“All government, in its essence, is a conspiracy against the superior man: it’s one permanent object is to oppress him and cripple him.” - H.L. Mencken


 

 

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 16:55 | 5521750 James_Cole
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In many countries calling the police (for any reason) is definitely a bad idea, seems like that's the trend in areas of US&A as well, particularly for certain ethnicities / socioeconomic classes. 

Incidentally, I've never had an issue with police. One time in LA I was pulled over driving on the wrong side of the road while on my phone at 1am, I figured I'd be at least getting a big ticket. Anyway, the cop (inexplicably) ended up apologizing for pulling me over and warned me that the area I was in could be known to be dangerous. I'm not some anti-police person.. but 'merica ought to get some of that shit sorted out. 

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 17:07 | 5521784 Ahoy Polloi
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My advice to EVERYONE is to invest your life savings into a franchise donut shop.

 

WALTER WINCHELL ... Who jew? (I mean KNEW)

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 17:16 | 5521835 quintago
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that video is crazy.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 17:22 | 5521846 Whoa Dammit
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You don't have to be a thug to be considered "killable". All it takes is an ignorant person with unchallenged views of superiority who has been given authority, an acceptable group to scapegoat, and societal denial, to render certain lives as "negotiable". 

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 18:49 | 5522137 Pool Shark
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Because we know nothing bad ever happens to cops...

http://www.odmp.org/search/year

 

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 19:09 | 5522216 Richard Chesler
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"Cops do not work for the people/citizenry, they work for the money printers."

It's not a coincidence they're commonly referred to as "Pigs" and "Pigmen". 


Fri, 12/05/2014 - 20:01 | 5522374 OneEyedJack
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Here is one that happened this week in Orlando.

 

Detectives arrived to the home for a follow-up investigation for burglary. When the detectives walked toward the residence, they observed a male sitting inside the vehicle parked in the driveway.

The man has been identified as Alejandro Noel Cordero Rivera, 32.

After the detectives walked up to the parked vehicle, they looked inside and immediately saw the suspect with a gun, police said.

Due to the perceived deadly threat, one of the detectives removed his weapon from its holster and shot the suspect.

He was sitting in a parked car with a gun.  Is that illegal? even if the cops "percieved a threat" this was a burglary investigation, what was so important that he had to be executed on the spot?

After a quick google search on the officer, I found out that this was not his first experience with excessive use of force.

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/orlando-police-officer-suspended-for-wa...

Oh, this was black cop, hispanic suspect, kind of a reverse of Travon and Zimmerman.

 

 

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 22:26 | 5522789 Trogdor
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Oh, this was black cop, hispanic suspect, kind of a reverse of Travon and Zimmerman.

... and hence, the race-baiters and Zionist "divide and conquer" media will never give it more than the few drops of ink it's already received....

Sat, 12/06/2014 - 04:53 | 5523266 Four chan
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literally the sun rising is more rare than blacks murdering each other in detroit.

this has been the fact each year for 4 decades. any protests for that? 

Sat, 12/06/2014 - 07:45 | 5523387 corsair
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blacks murdering each other

Do they wear a badge?

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 23:24 | 5522913 neidermeyer
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That's definitely off the radar .. I'm in Orlando and hadn't heard of it...

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 21:09 | 5522420 Whoa Dammit
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New Matt Taibbi article on the police:

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-police-in-america-are-beco...

If Eric Garner had been selling naked credit default swaps instead of cigarettes – if in other words he'd set up a bookmaking operation in which passersby could bet on whether people made their home mortgage payments or companies paid off their bonds – the police by virtue of a federal law called the Commodity Futures Modernization Act would have been barred from even approaching him.


You can't send hundreds of thousands of people to court every year on broken-taillight-type misdemeanors and expect people to sit still while yet another coroner-declared homicide goes unindicted. It just won't hold. If the law isn't the same everywhere, it's not legitimate. 

Sat, 12/06/2014 - 01:25 | 5523078 toady
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That's what my thought processes came around to... no rule of law in .gov, no rule of law in finance. No rule of law at the border. Why do they think thier rule of law would hold up on the street? We're getting real close to a social break down.

THERE ARE NO RULES!

Sat, 12/06/2014 - 06:23 | 5523329 Refuse-Resist
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Actually there are.  The one holding the gun on you can make rules, no matter which division of the mob he works for.

 

Unless you're willing to fight right then and  there, then you WILL obey his rules, no matter what they are, or he will simply shoot you, saying that he feared for his safety.

 

Would that we had the same threshold for unholstering our weapons when we feel threatened. 

 

I don't know about you, but I feel threatened at checkpoints, riding past a speed trap, and whenever I'm in speaking range of certain uniformed public employees, whether they work for the biggest national gang or the smaller state, county, or town gangs.

 

They don't make me feel safe. They're more likely to hurt you than to help you if you should need their help.

 

Best Answer:  avoid at all costs and do not call them. EVer. 

 

 

 

 

Sat, 12/06/2014 - 05:28 | 5523294 NeoRandian
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"If the law isn't the same everywhere, it's not legitimate. "

 

Not only that, if it is unjust, then it isn't a law at all.

Sat, 12/06/2014 - 10:34 | 5523506 detached.amusement
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pigs man, pig men

 

 

haha, charade you are

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 19:18 | 5522248 SuperRay
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It's like everything else - there are good people trying to do a good job who are overlooked because the focus is on the people who are exploiting there position and abusing their power.    A complicated situation where anyone who tries to consider the complexity is lost amid the simple minded shouters, bullshiters, and propagandists.  Keeping up on the epiphenomenon of a collapsing empire is exhausting work... time for a boilermaker...everybody have a great weekend

Sat, 12/06/2014 - 00:44 | 5523033 TheReplacement
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No.  It is quite clear that they are being trained and incentivized to behave hyper-aggressively.  This speaks nothing of the individuals but of the system.  The system is being developed in order to treat citizens as enemies. 

Good or bad apples you will always have.  A repressive system puts the balance firmly on the side of the worms.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 19:38 | 5522310 migra
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These little tinfoil hat wearing bitches talk shit all day long but when the shit hits the fan they will be dialing 911 and hiding under the bed like a bunch of little bitches. And if the cops don't show in 2 minutes they will being crying their bitch ass mouths off to city hall. A good beat cop does more for our society than a million, live in their moms basement, tinfoil hat bloggers ever will. 

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 20:35 | 5522482 logicalman
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Quote:

A good beat cop does more for our society than a million, live in their moms basement, tinfoil hat bloggers ever will.

A good beat cop = extinct species - maybe even mythical.

Once the cops see themselves as separate from the rest of the community they claim to serve and protect there will be problems.

 

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 22:01 | 5522723 bigrooster
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@migra What guns do you own and what is your plan?  Are you openly accepting "interns" to work for you for free to learn your self defense wisdom?

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 21:00 | 5522550 Borrow Owl
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@ Pool Shark:

Interesting.

It seems that. according to the link that you provided, the vast majority of Nazi-folk 'killed in the line of duty' were 'victims' of their own pathetically sub-standard driving skills. 

 

Sat, 12/06/2014 - 04:52 | 5523264 Dame Ednas Possum
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Natural selection is inescapable for the evolutionarily challenged.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 23:05 | 5522856 TheFutureReset
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City thugs kill over 1000 people every year. 

http://goo.gl/aHLghG

Sat, 12/06/2014 - 12:55 | 5523790 logicalman
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Cops kill more than terrsts, by a very large margin

Sat, 12/06/2014 - 01:45 | 5523111 zerohedgejjxxzz12
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We all have some sort of risks to personal safetey with the career choice we make, with banker's it's nail guns and tall buildings.

Carpenters = put themselves at risk for many injuries daily

Electricians = are at risk from falls from ladders, electrocutions or burnt organs from near fatal shocks

Race car drivers = car crashes/death

Steel workers = getting hands crushed or falls to their death

Forestry workers = killed by logs or bear attacks

Commercial fisherman = killed by storms

Oil field workers= killed by poisonous gasses or explosions

 Coal miners =killed by collapses or coal dust explosions

 Military personnel = getting shot at/ iud's

If your too F**king afraid of being a Cop, Don't be one and don''t think you can beat every obstacle in your path because your too F**king afraid to do your job right.

 

 

Sat, 12/06/2014 - 05:07 | 5523273 jaxville
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WTF....? Nothing bad ever happens to truck drivers, plumbers or anyone else who works either ?  Or maybe they just don't matter unlike our "hero" cops.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 20:18 | 5522429 stocktivity
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Ever been around cops in a normal everyday event? Arrogant as hell and they all have to out macho each other.

Sat, 12/06/2014 - 01:33 | 5523092 toady
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Back in the eighties my cousin got out of the marines and joined a county sheriff dept. He quit about a year later saying the same thing. Couldn't staff's. Bunch of arrogant assholes.

Sat, 12/06/2014 - 06:30 | 5523331 Refuse-Resist
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I walked into my CU yesterday to cash a check and they had a local gang member sitting behind the counter.

Been a member there for years and had never seen any armed thugs in the bank.

 

This guy proceeds to stare at me the entire time I'm processing my transaction.  It made me feel uncomfortable, and TBH, with him sitting there armed and making mean faces, I felt threatened.

 

How would he have felt if I were open carrying like him, and staring right back with an equally unfriendly expression on my face? Think he would've drawn on me? I think he would.

 

Lucky for him I don't have a badge (and the same standards for 'safety' as him) or I might have been justified to draw on him and put him down.  His very presence was threatening the safety and well being of everyone in the building.

The fact that he was amred and making mean faces at customers was very off putting in this small town.

I feared for my safety.  Magic words.

IF YOU WEAR A BADGE.  Otherwise that defense won't fly.

So I GTFO of there.

 

I don;t like being unarmed when confronted with armed assholes who look like bullies and act like bullies (getting revenge for all the chicks they never got in HS and for riding the bench in football I guess).

\

 

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 17:25 | 5521853 Stackers
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That girl at 0:07 getting tazed and falling was killed when her head hit the pavement. all the cop had to do was reach out and grab her and his first reaction is to reach for his "non-lethal" weapon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpV7qqhxZ_4

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 17:47 | 5521951 Groundhog Day
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Have a friend in Argentina.  His uncles house was broken into and 100k us dollars was stolen.  I asked him if the Police caught the guys. He laughed and said are you crazy...if i called the police they would come looking for the rest of it.

 

Coming to a town near you

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 18:00 | 5521982 Againstthelie
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Multicultural paradises always have been that way.

Completely different in ethnic homogenous societies of civilized cultures.

E.g. Japan. Or former European countries before the 3rd world was imported and before they got ZOGs.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 18:10 | 5522013 dexter_morgan
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There are pockets of that here in the US too. St. Cloud, MN for example. It used to be like the safest place to live in the country, not sure if it still is. Very homogenous community, liberal but not facist, could leave your doors open at night and you property unprotected. Nobody would mess with it. Very rare nowdays.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 22:32 | 5522802 Trogdor
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lol - North Dakota used to be like that (no idea if or how it's degraded over time with the shale oil insanity) - I remember one night when the local nightly news reported that someone had their car stereo stolen at the mall - they ran the story twice.  Seriously ... but that was back in '88-'90 - so no idea if it's still that way...

Sat, 12/06/2014 - 06:33 | 5523333 Refuse-Resist
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Good post.

 

It's called societal trust.  Research has shown that diverse locales have the lowest trust even between members of the same ethnic group.

And that homogenous societies have the highest levels of trust.

Diverse cities--no social trust - the guy standing next to you is as likely to rip you off as he is to help you.

 

BTDT.  No thanks I won't do that again.

Sat, 12/06/2014 - 06:02 | 5523322 winchester
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justice is not fair, justice helps the friends, and set trouble to enemies.

 

PLATO, the republic.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 17:11 | 5521817 Syrin
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Plus, IN THEIR OWN WORDS, their number one priority is officer safety meaning, if you are being beaten by a gang of sub-Saharans, they will wait until they are done, then collect evidence, and take you to the morgue.   Look at the Ferguson videos.   They stood there eating dounts and checking their pensions while thugs in the background looted and burned things in open view.   So what do we need them for?   Arm all citizens and let them solve this for themselves.  The only time they do show force is when they do a no knock SWAT raid on the wrong house and flash bang toddlers.   Truly, police are more dangerous than pretty much anyone else you encounter because when they break the law, they get a 6 week paid vacation before being cleared of all charges meaning they are incentivized to break the law without consequence.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 18:36 | 5522089 McMolotov
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"Officer safety." What a joke.

It's twice as dangerous to be a truck driver as it is to be a police officer. It's eleven (!) times more dangerous to be a logger than a cop. In terms of fatalities, 2013 was the safest year for American police since 1875.

http://fee.org/blog/detail/by-the-numbers-how-dangerous-is-it-to-be-a-cop

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 19:45 | 5522329 oddjob
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Check this out for safety.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=0dd1bcb2b7

 

Sat, 12/06/2014 - 07:14 | 5523352 winchester
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United States of Animals.

 

somehow you white usa are as bad black african canibalists.

 

simply, why pointing the head when the man is down... ffs, buy brains... instead of shooting others ones.

Sat, 12/06/2014 - 01:15 | 5523066 Syrin
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Incredible

Sat, 12/06/2014 - 05:24 | 5523287 NeoRandian
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Back when I was a kid there were a lot of shooting games where either a 'bad guy' or an innocent civilian would suddenly pop on screen and you had to shoot fast before they disappeared. I shot a lot of civilians by accident in the game, but not because I 'perceived them as threats' but because I cared more about getting a high score and just got trigger happy. When you 'perceive a threat' where there is no threat, chances are pretty good that it is due to your unconscious bias. If I watch a lot of crime and horror movies, then I'm probably going to feel a little scared when I walk down a dark alley even though there are no people or ghosts around - this is unconscious bias. My past experiences, even those I just viewed on a screen, color my current perceptions. This can be a good defense mechanism if say your experiences are all out in wilds interacting with real things; you see a few tigers maul whatever it is tigers eat and you learn to stay away from tigers. But when you view the garbage in the media you just end up learning a lot of irrationality. When you watch garbage on a screen, you still get all that sense experience, probably delivered more effectively than interactions with real things, as the movies have the whole package - the editing, the moving score, the framing of each shot, and so on.

 

Basically, these cops need regular doses of mind bleach to undue the effects of whatever garbage media they've consumed to build up their unconscious bias. As the cops' unconscious bias is against those of other races, we can call this unconscious racism, distinguished from conscious racism, which would be something like calling a black man a nigger. Some guy makes a bad joke and he gets burned at the stake for being a racist, but it is the unconscious racism we really need to root out. And we can do this with a simple test, required periodically to verify that the police are fit for duty and less likely to kill people. Simply send the cops to a shooting game, have the targets, criminal and innocents, all be of different races. If the cop is shooting the black guys holding phones/wallets/dildos but not the white guys holding guns/hairdryers/penis pumps, then said cop is unconsciously racist and needs some time off/therapy.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 17:43 | 5521932 Antifaschistische
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Just do a Public Information Act request for Police Overtime and you'll understand more.   Police Unions are gaming machines at screwing the taxpayers.   

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 18:21 | 5522048 cynicalskeptic
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Look at all the OT collecting cops all over NYC during the past few days.... no need at all for the numbers you saw..... same with OWS.  

 

AND if there IS any violence during legitimate protests, odds are it's coming from undercover agent provocateurs.....

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 22:05 | 5522733 bigrooster
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Good point, but it is not just cops.  The prision guards make just as much if not more in overtime.  Some of us pay those taxes from arrest to prision to parole to EBT to the end...

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 23:19 | 5522894 neidermeyer
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The have quotas to fill; tickets, arrests, etc.

 

They absolutely do not have quotas,, they'll tell you so ... they have "goals and objectives"...

Sat, 12/06/2014 - 01:05 | 5523056 noben
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I have to wonder when the tipping or trigger point will be reached, where some citizens start fighting fire with fire.

Put another way, I would not be surprised if one day people start sniping at such gangster cops.

Is it wrong to even speculate on this?

Sat, 12/06/2014 - 06:37 | 5523334 Refuse-Resist
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Already happened in PA. The guy that shot those two troopers didn't hurt anyone else and was not a threat to civilians.

 

He specifically went after one of them.  Could it be that the aforementioned PA State Trooperhero did something to the man? Something egregious and horrible that was never mentioned in the sensational news coverage?

 

I would say yes.

 

Lack of accountability, special privilege, and lack of respect for the mass of people in society will be what finally ends thiss shit show. 

 

Restoring accountability amongst the LEO community, bankers, bureaucrats, and politicians (IE the rule of law) will go a long way toward righting what's wrong in this country.

 

And one other thing:  FUCK YOU YELLENBERNANKEGREENSPAN

 

 

Sat, 12/06/2014 - 13:05 | 5523816 PoliticalRefuge...
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Pennsylania is a third world state.. corruption from the street level all the way through the DA's office.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5eOknaXgYU

..eventually it will come back to bite them.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 17:20 | 5521845 kchrisc
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The gun and badge thugs' mission statement:

"Serve treason, and protect tyranny."

An American, not US subject.

 

In addition to the Four Rs, the American people should be compiling a list, call it the Crimes Against the American People List (CAAPL)?? A list of known pol, crat, functionaries (funcs) and bankster criminals in their sphere of influence.

Oath violating and treasonous gun and badge thugs, corrupt pols and crats, thieving banksters, etc. should be placed on one's list. Their names, crimes, and positions should be, at a minimum, kept for future reference for accountability, trial and punishment.

When the DC US finally collapses, these lists can then be used to root out the known criminals that will think that they can hide amongst their victims--no "Truth and Reconciliation," no quarter, only "Trial and Retribution."

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 17:19 | 5521843 exonomic halfbreed
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Mike Ruppert claimed along time ago that the police departments were being infiltrated by individuals working on behalf of the feds.  The purpose was to turn the people against their local law enforcement to expedite the forming of a federalized police force.  The people of regions who wish to stand up to the federal gov,ernment will at that time have a police force who will work against them instead of joining them against the central bankers and their sycophants in D.C. Centralization of everything under their control.  Read Marx if you wish to know the script they are following.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 18:21 | 5522052 durablefaith
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Bingo. Where there is a corpse, there the vultures will gather...

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 19:34 | 5522293 AssFire
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+1 for the Ruppert reference, rip.

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 22:05 | 5530894 durablefaith
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The carcass / vulture quote is from jesus, mt 24:28.

When you suddenly see a lot of vultures, you might want to give your empire a sniff. Chances are its a deadman standing....

 

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 17:38 | 5521914 Ruffmuff
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Hey just stay away and out of the ruckus. Seriously, obey the  law and shut the fuck up.

 Nearly every situation is assholes escalating the whole deal.  

"I fought the law and law won"

"When I fight authority, authority always wins"

THis is nothing new. Some ole, same old shit sandwich. Take a bite and it'll taste as bad as you should expect.

Wake the fuck up. I don't fuck with them, and they won't fuck with me. 

 If you have a dumbass kid is school, and defies the teacher, he is next to get a beat down from the cops. My kids are stoopid at times but not that dumb. I won't defend their shit with the law. My sis in law always defends her morons, and they been in jail a dozen times. Fucking morons, deserve it.

It you are not in control, these assholes will show you how.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 17:53 | 5521968 Whalley World
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you just hoping for a job in police propaganda?  that little baby with it's face blown off looked like a future agitator to me

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 19:38 | 5522309 g speed
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ruff muff is beyond stupid---doesn't he know that authority is only that because it says it is--- there is no moral or legitimate ground that authority today can stand on --- It has become the ubiquitous dispenser of crime and lawlessness usurping rights of life, liberty and the persuit of happiness and morphing them into rights of murder, tyranny and terror.   

Sat, 12/06/2014 - 07:18 | 5523356 winchester
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avatar is reflect of mentality, mental image, projection, you display a fuck the system, u a thrat for the system, do not be surprise to be suppressed...

 

you always harvest what you seed.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 18:12 | 5522016 kchrisc
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"Hey just stay away and out of the ruckus. Seriously, obey the  law and shut the fuck up."

Like this guy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XFYTtgZAlE

And James Boyd: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SzpZbkgjJ8

And DEAF John Williams: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnKLEOXenow

And Kelly Thomas: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1pQnBw-jhc

An American, not US subject.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 18:59 | 5522155 Pie rre
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That occured within walking distance of where I live.  There are a few native Americans in the area and most are old and booze addled.  Williams could have probably been brought down with a shoe. Hw was known as  the woodcarver and would whittle trinkets with his pen knife and sell them.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 18:35 | 5522095 exonomic halfbreed
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 to ruffmuff: Romania is looking for some new immigrants, perhaps you should apply.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 19:45 | 5522318 Savvy
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Perhaps 13 years ago. But now cops are motivated to rob people. Get a bunch of psychos on a power trip who can keep what they take from your wallet through some 'loophole' in the legl system. Canadians recently advised to not take cash into the US

 

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/american-shakedown-police-won-t-charge-you-...

Sat, 12/06/2014 - 02:03 | 5523129 zerohedgejjxxzz12
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I cannot wait for the day that you believing in this way, get your rights trampled all over and you get a good beating by a cop, let us then hear your feelings!

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 17:42 | 5521933 Treeplanter
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Adolesent garbage.  

Sat, 12/06/2014 - 07:19 | 5523359 winchester
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fault on miseducation... who is responsibles ? parents... here againt a torrent of downvoting to say stuff that hurt deep inside.

tyipically, this is what happen when a whole generation let television raise the kids.

 

what you had in tv in the 80', you have it reel now.

 

go figure.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 18:32 | 5522070 Jack Burton
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I like your posts "Latina Lover", most especially this one. Anyone who knows me knows I am no friend of the typical American Black Community. In fact, I almost lost a good job once for my racial humor. But there is a point at which no sane man can sit back and accept things. I am there now, I know that if cops prove their right to extrajudicial killing of black men, it is not long before they extend their power to whites. Look at these militarized cops.

The type of person cops now recruit is a fucking disgrace. Many of them of course like the money and the mid-life retirement with full pay and medical at 50. Who wouldn't like to retire while most of us look forward to 20 more years of stuggle in the private sector disaster of an economy! Worst of all is the fucking POWER they seek, and the armed club they join, where all others become "little people" to be bullied and shoved around at their whim. Blacks are being very passive around this issue. You don't want to see them when they really take it to the streets.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 19:05 | 5522204 exonomic halfbreed
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to Jack Burton: You said that "you don't want to see them when they really take it to the streets." If that makes you nervous, consider all the aglo saxon descendents turning out to achieve both justice and a reversal of what's been happening since the elite wasps, mafiosi (and their controllers from above), and zionists have infected the body politic.  There is a certain group which dominates nobel prizes, and they do have considerable power among their bought off and blackmailed fellow sociopaths, who must be contended with. They control information flow, therefor they control perception by the sheep.  In todays society it is a crime against your society to be poorly informed for you will be turned against good people if you remain dependant upon info. from parasites masquerading as citizens.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 22:03 | 5522730 Freddie
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Anglo Saxons?  You mean all the dumb whites cheering NCAA, NBA and NFL thugs and Trayvons on TV and university ball games?   The public has no clue. 

I have no sympathy for Trayvon and Michael Brown was a thug (who probably could have been tazed).  The man in New York City was murdered for selling loose cigarettes,.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 23:42 | 5522951 Oldwood
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But a cigarette outside of its factory packaging is a deadly weapon, even second hand.

Sat, 12/06/2014 - 06:41 | 5523337 Refuse-Resist
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I agree.

But not as dangerous as the deadly murderjuana plant.

 

That plant has been known to kill entire neighborhoods simultaneously just from growing, hence the reason growing 1 plant can land you in jail for a very long time.

 

Sat, 12/06/2014 - 06:40 | 5523338 Refuse-Resist
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I agree.

But not as dangerous as the deadly murderjuana plant.

 

That plant has been known to kill entire neighborhoods simultaneously just from growing, hence the reason growing 1 plant can land you in jail for a very long time.

 

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 20:15 | 5522423 Reaper
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Power always corrupts. Powerlessness corrupts the powerless further. The police are the armed goons of the police/prosecutor/judge industry. The police know the prosecutors need them to lie for high conviction rates. The judges know they need the prosecutors to not investigate judges and, if elected, not be opposed by the police.
It is not just the police protecting the police; it's the police/prosecutor/judge industry protecting its system. The psychopaths at all levels delight in their power. The delusion is to trust either the police, or the prosecutors or the judges or the media, which knows that protecting prosecutors and judges protects the media. Never believe the police nor the prosecutors nor the judges, when on a jury or grand jury. The system is broken, venal and unrepairable.

Sat, 12/06/2014 - 02:09 | 5523075 zerohedgejjxxzz12
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To latin lover first post

"Extra judicial killing by police is typical of a crony capitalist, aka fascist system. So is civil forfeiture, a practice typical to third world nations where the police are often referred to as thieves in uniforms."

 Who and what the f are the 12 down votes?

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 16:36 | 5521666 Bill of Rights
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How Congress Helped Create Ferguson’s Militarized Police It all goes back to 1990.

In 1990, Congress passed a National Defense Authorization Act with a clause allowing the "transfer of excess personal property" from the Defense Department to local law enforcement—otherwise known as Section 1208. The clause was included in response to the surge of violent crime and the War on Drugs in the late 1980s. (It's worth noting that at the time, both chambers of Congress were controlled by Democrats.)

Here's the full language of the Section 1208:

 

http://www.nationaljournal.com/congress/how-congress-helped-create-fergu...

Ill repeat what I said in the other thread....

Remember, Cops we're not chosen to wear the badge due to their great virtue and courage; they APPLIED for the position! They were just normal people, and then they ASKED to be put in a position of "power" and "authority," which should, by default, make you trust them a lot LESS than the average guy on the street. Yeah, in THEORY there is some screening process to keep the real nastiest one's from being given badges. But that theory is now about as valid as the flat earth theory, given how many fascists have been caught terrorizing, assaulting and MURDERING harmless people ... and getting away with it.

So next time you see someone with a badge and uniform, don't think, "Gee, an agent of law and order!" Because that's B.S. ... Instead, think, "Gee, someone who ASKED to be allowed to DOMINATE and CONTROL others!" Because that's the REALITY of the situation."

An excellent rule of thumb is that control freaks seek sources of power. Whenever someone seeks or achieves a position where they have authority over an aspect of your life you have every reason to assume they are control freaks until proven otherwise. 

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 17:03 | 5521758 Jstanley011
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I have personally known a police officer who was motivated "to protect and serve" in a professional manner, as many are. That said, the profession attracts more than its fair share of sociopaths for the exact reasons that you delineate.

That's why we need a Bill of Rights in the first place. Because positions of authority in general -- not just in law enforcement -- tend to attract sociopaths. In the Oval Office, for instance, Bill and Hillary Clinton were (and will be again? stupid Dimo-craps!) a textbook example.

As enablers go, far worse than Congress, it has been the Supreme Court -- by things like weakening the exclusionary rule and allowing asset seizures without due process -- that has lent the color of law to the pandemic of police overreach we're seeing in this country.

And the way the dynamic goes -- sort of a Gresham's Law of The Fuzz -- the more you allow the sociopathic officers to get away with murder, the fewer professional officers there will be on the force, and the less power those remaining will have. The exact same dynamic Bill Black outlined with the banksters, btw...


Fri, 12/05/2014 - 17:17 | 5521840 Overfed
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Cops motivated to 'protect and serve' are motivated by a Christ complex.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 17:28 | 5521879 Jstanley011
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Yeah well, I knew him from a church group. So there you go...

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 17:44 | 5521943 Ruffmuff
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A Christ complex? Boy are you really fucked up...

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 18:25 | 5522067 Herd Redirectio...
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I talked to a cop (fellow soccer coach) and he said:

1/3 of cops do it for the right reason

1/3 of cops were bullied (and thats why they became cops)

1/3 of cops ARE bullies.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 19:51 | 5522354 g speed
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Yea well, name the cop who doesn't lie every day to do the job----so are they fucking liars?  and after that its all down hill as in dishonest ----corrupt--- law defying ---- lawless-- untill you get to killers. just saying-- its the fucking system-----

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 19:22 | 5522261 Tall Tom
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Look in the mirror. You are the one that is fucked up.

 

The Cop mentality is not just restricted to that profession.

 

People with that personality type are drawn into FOUR DISTINCT PROFESSIONS.

 

SCHOOL TEACHERS

PREACHERS

PSYCHOLOGISTS

and POLICE.

 

We hate injustice...PERIOD.

We hate CRIME.

Then we will lay our lives on the line to save another life, if necessary...without a second thought.

 

I am not a cop. But I have taught school and I have been a preacher. Never have been a cop....other than catching cheaters on tests. But I do understand how they think.

 

People like you give cops a bad name. The people whom are now doing Policing are night and day from what it used to be, It has changed.

 

As the criminal gangs now run the Military they are now running the Police Forces. (Yes. Our Military has Crips and Bloods and other gangsters within the enlisted ranks. So do the police forces.)

 

In fact it is actually funny...My good friend, my next door neighbor, who was a Chula Vista Cop, used to throw cop parties before he moved. But he took me aside and he told me that I scare the hell out of the Cops.

 

I wonder why...

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 17:53 | 5521969 TheGreatRecovery
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What is a Christ complex?

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 18:36 | 5522099 Jstanley011
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Among Christ's followers there are alternative views.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 19:29 | 5522274 Tall Tom
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I'd love to change the World

But I don't know what to do

So I'll leave it up to you.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKGYMA8Fnxs

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 21:01 | 5522564 awakeRewe
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No worries the world is changing without you ... and fast.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 23:47 | 5522962 Oldwood
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Corruption at its highest levels is a strong contageon for the rest of society. Abuse of power is easily recognizable and easily emulated. Why would any cop respect us when the president does not?

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 17:26 | 5521864 ILoveDebt
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I was making that same argument last night to a friend.  It's the same with politicians and why they seem to be getting worse and worse.  The people drawn to those positions are exactly the type of person that shouldn't be doing them.  

Same with pedophiles being teachers, priests, and daycare workers.  It's just easier to fulfill your worst desires if the position lowers the likely hood of being caught, or in cases such as the police or priesthood, actually condone it.  

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 17:36 | 5521904 Meat Hammer
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I went to an SF Giants game once when, unbeknownst to me ahead of time, it was law enforcement aprreciation day.  I've never seen a more drunk, unruly, rude, obnoxious, and disgusting group of people in my life.  They were fucking horrible.  A guy a few rows in front of me politely asked one of the pigs in front of him to sit down because the guy couldn't see the game and the pig just laughed at him.  If it were a normal citizen being a dick, the guy could've called security, but bacon face is above the rules.

Fuck the police. 

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 18:12 | 5522017 August
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Off topic, but I really do not appreciate these "Appreciation Days".  I once had the fairly disgusting experience of an an Armed Forces Appreciation Day, inserted into a college football game.

Now, I do appreciate the fact that most young guys do not understand what the fuck they are getting into when they sign up for the US military (my son did the USMC, and he's a fine man); however, finding myself in a crowd of 50,000, standing and cheering guys in camo recently returned from "service" in Afghanistan or Iraq was a bit un-nerving:  group-think, conformity and state-worship.  Now, are you sure you want to be the only person in your section not standing?

At least they didn't lead us in the sacred Pledge of Allegiance.  That, and there were no torches.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 16:39 | 5521671 j0nx
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I've read that the De Blasio administration made it clear to the police brass that all street 'vendors' selling untaxed cigs were to be dealt with post haste. Looks to me like the police were following orders from above. Perhaps the media needs to be confronting De Blasio over his request to crack down on sales of cigs instead of throwing the police under the bus. There's plenty of blame to go around with this debacle.

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2014/12/04/new_york_cigarette_taxes_ki...

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 16:48 | 5521712 j0nx
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What's with the down votes? It looks to be that the king sent out his knights to kill a serf who wasn't paying their taxes to the crown and is trying to blame the knights for it while absolving himself of any responsibility. My point being that the king himself shares much of the blame for this.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 16:49 | 5521727 Bill of Rights
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I'm the lonesome up voter just so you know :)

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 18:47 | 5522125 Kassandra
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Where would a person even find untaxed cigarettes? Indian reservations? Is there a Native American Indian reservation near NYC?
Perhaps I made the erroneous assumption that he was purchasing the cigarettes himself, that were already taxed, and selling singles for a bit more than he paid? Was he rolling his own and selling them?

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 21:59 | 5522724 Calmyourself
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I was wondering the same thing, they killed him for double taxation.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 22:16 | 5522774 Freddie
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Florida, maybe S Carolina.  Someone may buy them by the truckload in a state with an Indian reservation.  What about the phony casino in CT with the "Indians?"  They might sell cigs.

Sat, 12/06/2014 - 03:06 | 5523186 tvdog
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New York has its own Indian reservations. The Indians refuse to pay the cigarette tax, and the state has retaliated by not repairing state highways near the reservation.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 23:05 | 5522851 Flagit
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Kass, can you show me an example of something that isn't double, triple, and quadruple taxed?

A manufacturer pays taxes on raw materials purchased. (DoChenRolling)

A wholesaler pays taxes on bulk orders. 

A consumer pays taxes on individual purchases and items.

Sat, 12/06/2014 - 01:30 | 5523087 Kassandra
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Nope...sure can't.

Hard to believe tax on some loosies was worth a human life.

Then again, life is becoming very, very cheap.

Sat, 12/06/2014 - 00:13 | 5522993 August
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My (limited) experience with Indian Reservations which are convenient to urban areas is that they mark down their tobacco prices only enough to bring in business - i.e. the deals aren't really all that great. 

The reservations I was reasonably familiar with also were very circumspect about selling by the truckload, since they didn't want the negative press and the hassle with state authorities. If you want to buy tobacco in mass quantities, drive a truck to the Carolina nearest you, where everything is nice and above-board.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 22:51 | 5522833 Trogdor
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That may be true - they were "following orders" - but at what point does acting like a human being come into the picture?  It didn't look to me like the cops were exactly "hating" murdering the guy - looked like they were getting their bb-sized nuts all puffy over the event.  Yes, the politicians are every bit as much to blame - however - the cops have discression regarding performance of their duty - and increasingly they choose the more sub-human, animalistic path, because it makes them feel "powerful".

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 17:14 | 5521827 Hapte
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"Just following orders"

Must suck dick to be a bootlicker.

(Not saying you are, but probably the reason for -1's. Also, fgt Rush Limpbag link)

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 18:17 | 5522026 August
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>>>Must suck dick to be a bootlicker.

It's not that bad.  Just don't look in the mirror.

Sat, 12/06/2014 - 07:24 | 5523365 winchester
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until you got some from behind, then it become pretty excitiiiiiiiing lol

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 20:06 | 5521918 kchrisc
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One must understand that indirectly, all supposed "local" gun and badge thugs, by way of their direct local employer's debt to the banksters, work for the banksters.

By extension, all gun and badge murders and brutality are done at the behest of the banksters.

More and more the local institutions of tyranny and treason, departments, are being used to go and produce lucre by any means possible in order to maintain the debt and their power. Only psychopaths have no qualms about robbing, beating, terrorizing, and killing people for lucre, so more often than not, psychopaths are "selected" for in the hiring process. Imagine the fictional Corleones, of Godfather fame, hiring people off the street, and what criteria they might look, "select," for.

Therefore, another way to look at the killing of Eric Garner, is as a debt-collection for the banksters gone bad; or good if you are on the other side.

Next time a gun and badge thug pulls you over, remember, he wants to rob you, and killing you is seen as a BONUS.

An American, not US subject.

"...it is their right, it is their duty..."

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 22:25 | 5522787 Usurious
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plenty of Banksters to be arrested..........just sayin..

Sat, 12/06/2014 - 04:00 | 5523222 MsCreant
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No need for arrest, the choking thing is fine!

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 16:39 | 5521679 FreeShitter
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One day the tide will turn on these motherfuckers....

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 17:41 | 5521924 kchrisc
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"One day the tide will turn on these motherfuckers...."

High tide of guillotines.

An American, not US subject.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 18:20 | 5522047 rodocostarica
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This aint going to be popular but I live in country without this type of blatent police brutality and disregard for human rights. Watching this video  above I get so pissed off that I would not mind an ISIS team come in and locate the offenders and cut their fucking heads off.

ISIS appears to have this system down pat. Take over a city and then look for those who have mistreated others in the past and off with their heads.(among other reasons which of course are not good)

Some of these fucking pigs deserve it. Not all are bad mind you in fact most are great. But these abusers deserve a nice fucking end.

 

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 18:35 | 5522097 August
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If the Russian army ever holds a victory parade on Pennsylvania Avenue, I'd look on it as a positive development.

Today's "New America" is not worth defending.  Sorry about that, but it's just a fact.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 19:13 | 5522231 Parrotile
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Going by the commentaries / editorials in many Russian provincial papers (relatives in Moscow translate for me), the Russians would be quite pleased to do just that, along with demolishing the White House and replacing it with a traditional Russian Castle (Kremlin).

Having had the (albeit single) opportunity to help out in a Casualty Depatment in St Petersburg, and see just now much damage Russians can do to each other with just bare fists (VERY much "dead on arrival" - or what was left on arrival owing to significant missing parts . . . .) I'd be VERY cautious indeed to engage their Professional military in any conflict, especially one that involves their home territory.

 

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 21:27 | 5522627 Omen IV
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I have recently  - after this Garner Star Chamber Grand Jury situation  - thinking the same thing - it is time for the Russians to take over - Fascists are far worse and that is what we have evolved to in the US of Assholes 

 

 

Sat, 12/06/2014 - 04:05 | 5523230 MsCreant
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Down marks for all.

I don't want anyone "taking over" me. You don't either, you just didn't think it through.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 20:04 | 5522384 kchrisc
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"I get so pissed off that I would not mind an ISIS team come in and locate the offenders and cut their fucking heads off."

First off ISIS is the CIA and Mossad. Not important here, though.

The main point that I would like to raise is that YOU should be doing something. YOU should be compiling a list of all of the crimes of the pols, crats, funcs (gun and badge thugs, etc.), banksters and their crimes you know of for later trial and retribution.

YOU should be confronting your local thugs and publicly putting them on record as reminded of their oaths, that the Constitution IS the "Law of the Land," and that they are expected to abide by it, of Article 3, Section 3 (treason), and that Principle IV of the Nuremberg Principles precludes using "following orders," or "it's the law" in the defense of their crimes.

Even more importantly, YOU should be out raising the awareness of others to the true nature of "policing" in the police-state of the US (PSUS). At first, no one will get it or care. However, one day the thugs WILL, as such psychopaths cannot help themselves, do something in or near your community, and then suddenly it's "Welcome to the police-state..." because YOU had already planted the bug in their ears.

"I think that it is not too soon for hon­est men to rebel and rev­o­lu­tion­ize. What makes this duty the more ur­gent is that fact, that the coun­try so over­run is not our own, but ours is the in­vad­ing army." H.D. Thoreau

It is NOT too soon honest man; men I'll see you out there somewhere on the battlefield.

An American, not US subject.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 22:38 | 5522813 peter4805
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An American, not US subject.

Does anyone else find these signatures at the end of every post annoying?

Sat, 12/06/2014 - 01:32 | 5523089 kchrisc
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Typing it is annoying too.

The goal, though, is to get people thinking and recognize that there is a country, the American country, made up of the American people, and the land that we inhabit, and that that country is being occupied by the criminal DC US nation. They are separate. They are not equal.

Are you an American of the American country, or a subject of the criminal DC US nation and their puppets?

An American, not US subject.

Sat, 12/06/2014 - 07:27 | 5523370 winchester
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america is not a country, it is a continent....

 

usa are " UNITED STATES " of... north america.

 

you have states,  you not a country.

 

not surprising your schools get  shooted every weeks...

Sat, 12/06/2014 - 04:12 | 5523235 MsCreant
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Up vote for you.

We must do it for ourselves or it is a lost cause. It is how this happened, we handed responsibility over to others, assuming it was wise because of the idea of specialization, not understanding that we have become alienated from all kinds of processes-- food, self-defense, self-governance-- because of it. It seems sensible because the population is so big, when in fact we must learn to localize EVERYTHING.

Monopolies go against nature. So does centralized authority. If the planet was at war with Mars, I may need to rethink that, but as it stands now, it i assuring that the lowest common denominator flourishes.  

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 16:40 | 5521684 css1971
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Fascism rising.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 16:53 | 5521690 IridiumRebel
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I have Mr Winchester to protect me I don't need the cops.

I might need them to clean up though.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 16:59 | 5521768 Winston Churchill
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I'm in the market for a long barrel .22 rifle.

Been many decades since I used one, and that was a breach loader,Enfield .

Any suggestions, anyone ?

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 17:04 | 5521790 chunga
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make sure you can get plenty of ammo before you get one.

10/22 is a pretty good choice

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 17:26 | 5521866 Jstanley011
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Or better yet, get the ammo in hand first.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 17:31 | 5521893 Ahoy Polloi
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+1

 

Ammo first

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 17:45 | 5521940 chunga
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You made me check if there is still a shortage of .22 rimfire.

http://www.sgammo.com/catalog/rimfire-ammunition/22-lr

From the looks of this there sure is. Hard to explain. About the only thing I didn't buy at all time high is many boxes of CCI min-mag

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 18:19 | 5522045 Ahoy Polloi
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I kno right?

 

I've waved around between .45, .22, 9mm, & 7.62 ammo these past few years...

 

What WAS cheapest by comparison, is now expensive... Weird.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 18:41 | 5522110 ljag
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Try going to practice with a big caliber.....gets expensive quick . 22s are cheap and thus most sought

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 19:01 | 5522183 Ahoy Polloi
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Fuck the theory... If I have a .45 in my hand, I don't need as much PRACTICE.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 19:51 | 5522355 Ginsengbull
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7.62x54 long Russian only costs about 25 cents a pop.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 18:32 | 5522083 Beowulf55
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Hey Chunga, wake up and smell the nitrate.  There is a shortage of gun powder too!  Even if you can find it, the Hazmat shipping, on top ofthe regular mail cost, quadruples the price for a pound of powder.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 18:40 | 5522109 chunga
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what's so special about .22?

5.56 for sale all day long

http://www.sgammo.com/catalog/rifle-ammunition/223-556mm

X39 same thing

http://www.sgammo.com/catalog/rifle-ammunition/762x39

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 19:00 | 5522178 Harbanger
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What's special is you can walk all day carrying a 1000 rounds.  Not so much with larger ammo.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 19:56 | 5522364 chunga
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That's why .22 is always sold out?

Plinkers marching around with attack packs full of the stuff?

Sat, 12/06/2014 - 07:38 | 5523378 winchester
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~ 2.6g per bullet. a pack of 50 = 130 grams, 500bullet : 1.3kg. weight of a huge AE50.... you cannot walk with 1000 .22 bullets  on edc, it weights about 2.6kg...

 

problem with doomers, prepers and my ass lickers is they stack , they stack, they don't have brain to think and even less to calculate and realize that,

1 they are fat,

2 do not make sport, and

3 will never be able to walk for 2km with a 20kg bag on the back... so only a gun 1kg + 3kg of bullet, without water and anything really usefull...

 

you understand why you are the 1st place market of the world to sell stuff that will never be used.

 

nra and weapon lobbys are blinding you lil withey fascists, you are loosing it.. time to wake up. remove guns, and learn to say hello, thank you, and live all together.

 

Sat, 12/06/2014 - 16:18 | 5524206 Hapte
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Hahaha!

"Gun" polishers ;)

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 18:08 | 5522007 spankfish
Fri, 12/05/2014 - 18:20 | 5522049 Harbanger
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Have one for couple of years now, it's sweet and very accurate, awesome mags very dependable, laser is nice option.  I think Winston lives in UK though.  Duck and cover.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 21:00 | 5522555 disabledvet
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Florida I believe.  Probably a gated community no less.  Still...agree that the Ruger is the way to go.  Make it a magnum too.

I'm a Thompson man myself.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 18:37 | 5522101 Jstanley011
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I hadn't seen that before. Nice!

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 18:53 | 5522145 himaroid
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Got the call that mine came in today.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 17:08 | 5521804 Rusty Shorts
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Marlin 39A Lever Action 22LR

 

EDIT;  buy an older on, one actually built by Marlin, not Remington.

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